Outcry Against AT&T’s Bid to Drop Landline Commitments at Yesterday’s PUC Meeting in Ukiah

AT&T photo of a technician, wires and a sunset.

[Crop of a photo on AT&T’s webpage in 2019]

The Board of Supervisors chambers, the overflow room, and the courtyard at the Mendocino County government campus were packed yesterday for a highly interactive public participation hearing about two proposals from AT&T.

The California Public Utilities Commission is evaluating the company’s request to relinquish its status as an eligible telecommunications carrier and to be released from its obligation to continue as the carrier of last resort, or COLR.

Administrative Law Judge Thomas Glegola and Assistant Chief Administrative Law Judge W. Anthony Colbert took testimony, along with Commissioners John Reynolds and Darcie Houck.

Commissioner Reynolds explained: “An eligible telecommunications carrier is a telephone company that operates in a specific geographic area and receives financial assistance from the Federal Universal Service Fund to provide affordable telephone service to customers at all income levels. At&T is essentially requesting to no longer operate as an E.T.C. in California.

Inside the chambers as the crowd arrived.

Inside the chambers as the crowd arrived for the AT&T hearing. [Photo by Sarah Reith]

Second, we have AT&T’s request for relief from its Carrier of Last Resort obligation. A COLR is a telecommunications service provider that stands ready to provide basic telephone service, commonly landline telephone service, to any customer requesting such service within a specified geographic area. Where AT&T is the default basic telephone service provider, it must provide basic telephone service to any potential customer in that service territory.”

Yesterday’s participation hearing was one of a series, which will conclude on March 19. After evidentiary hearings, Judge Glegola will provide the commission with a proposed decision, which the five commissioners will vote on later this year.

But the crowd was not sympathetic to AT&T, particularly with national news reporting that yesterday about 70,000 cell phone customers were left without service. Mendocino County Supervisor John Haschak spoke about how rural people whose cell phones are always spotty rely on landlines. “I have seen cell service coverage dropped in the times that we need to communicate most,” he testified. “During the August Complex fire, and the Redwood Complex fires, cell service went down. During the huge snowstorms that we had last winter, cell coverage went down. Landlines provide many people with their sole connection to the outside world.”

People came from all over the region to plead with the commission to reject the telecom giant’s requests. Senator Mike McGuire and Assembly member Jim Wood sent representatives to add their voices to the chorus. Michelle Vassel, tribal administrator for the Wiyot tribe in Humboldt county, approached the dais flanked by tribal council members. “Electricity goes out all the time because of storms, because of earthquakes, because of rolling blackouts,” she testified. “Because of fire concerns and wind issues…The combination of increasing costs of all of our utilities and the fact that this would increase our costs to have a service, which is the only service available, is the reason why we want you to reject both applications.”

Tedi Vriheas, the Vice President of external affairs for AT&T California, said AT&T has received COLR relief in 20 other states, and that copper landline use is down by 90%. “I want to assure you that no one is going to be left without service,” she pledged. “All of our customers will have access to voice service, and especially 9-1-1. The CPUC designated Pacific Bell, now AT&T, 25 years ago, the Carrier of Last Resort, or COLR. Today there are dozens of companies providing voice services in California. Competition is here and it is robust…California is dedicating over 8 billion dollars in federal funding to build out broadband. They are not investing in copper.”

Regina Costa, public policy director for TURN, waiting with the crowd outside the BoS chambers.

Regina Costa, public policy director for TURN, waiting with the crowd outside the BoS chambers. [Photo by Sarah Reith]

But many people testified that AT&T is not maintaining its infrastructure. And Regina Costa, telecom policy director for TURN, The Utility Reform Network, a ratepayer advocacy organization, disputed the idea of robust competition for reliable phone service. “These guys had the advantage because they had a monopoly for many, many decades,” she said in an interview before the hearing.” And they had customer support for many decades. There was a point in time where they allowed competition for local service, but very few of those companies survived.”

The crowd booed Vriheas’ response when Judge Colbert asked her to address one of the main concerns that had come up in testimony. “Briefly, what is AT&T’s specific plan if the copper infrastructure goes out of service?” he asked.

Vriheas replied, “It’s my understanding that the definition of alternative service would be worked out through the evidentiary proceedings. Based on information that has been submitted.” As the assembled members of the public expressed their displeasure, Cobert called for order. He then tried again, with AT&T attorney Andy Umaña.

Umaña told the judge, “We submitted over a hundred thousand pages of evidence in this proceeding, so I’m happy to take this back to my colleagues and we can get a specific citation for you.”

Colbert thanked him, then said, “As Judge Glegola and the Commissioners have indicated, we have another hearing at six o’clock. So hopefully we can get a more specific answer by then.” Umaña agreed, and the two men thanked one another some more.

Humboldt County Supervisor Rex Bohn got a laugh when he took the temperature in the room. “You’re not getting a lot of people saying, hey, this is a great idea,” he observed. “The only people probably happy today is PG&E because it’s got them off the front page with their rate hikes, and now everyone’s thinking, AT&T.”

Bob Matson is the volunteer fire chief in Elk and the owner of a tow truck company and service garage. He testified about his experience when he gave up his business landlines and accepted cell phones from AT&T.

“Half the time, the phones would work as they were supposed to,” he related. “But the other fifty percent of the time, the call was either dropped or it went to voicemail.” At one point, Glegola tried to remind Matson that he had used his allotted two minutes to testify, but the crowd clamored to hear his story. “We tow for the Highway Patrol and we also tow for AAA,” Matson continued; “and it’s essential that these landlines work to get ahold of us.”

He finally got his political representative to get in touch with the Commission and AT&T eventually gave him back his landlines. “When the landlines got reinstated, we realized how much this had impacted our business, for seven months,” he concluded. “Don’t let this happen, because these landlines are essential to us.”

The next in-person hearings will be on March 14 at 2pm and 6pm in the Indio City Hall Council Chambers.

Earlier: Disconnected: Is this the Beginning of the End of Landline Services?

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tru matters
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tru matters
2 months ago

And just yesterday they had a major cell and internet outage in several major cities.

Affecting 911 calls and other important services.

tru matters
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tru matters
2 months ago
Reply to  tru matters

AT&T cellular service restored after daylong outage; cause still unknown

Guest
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Guest
2 months ago
Reply to  tru matters

Sun spot magnetic storms was what I read. I have not bothered to look further for verification. But the outages were widespread and even those with no outages had certain kinds of disruptions.
But I also know I would still have a landline today has AT&T basically ceased maintaining it a decade ago. I got my first cell phone in order to have a way to call AT&T for repair.

MJ
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MJ
2 months ago
Reply to  Guest

I would think a sun spot would affect more than just ATT.

Guest
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Guest
2 months ago
Reply to  MJ

“In case you are wondering, none of the X-class solar flares this week were accompanied by a CME or geomagnetic storm. They were not responsible for the widespread cellphone outages Thursday morning.”
And “Based on an initial review, AT&T said Thursday night the outage was caused by the “application and execution of an incorrect process used as we were expanding our network, not a cyber attack.”
“We are continuing our assessment of today’s outage to ensure we keep delivering the service that our customers deserve,” a company spokesperson said.” Apparently Verizon’s problems are not related according to this article but that’s simply can’t be true unless it was a wildly unlikely coincidence. I lost all connection except for the ability to text even to Verizon company numbers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/did-recent-solar-activity-contribute-to-thursdays-widespread-cellphone-outage/ar-BB1iMD0F
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/what-to-know-about-at-t-s-cellular-network-outage/ar-BB1iIjpS

I am a robot
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I am a robot
2 months ago
Reply to  Guest

No sunspots

Farce
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Farce
2 months ago

Addressing your PUC…Just check out this article and then try to believe the PUC gives a crap about us….https://abc7news.com/pge-earnings-rate-increase-2024-profits-power-outages/14458228/

Farce
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Farce
2 months ago
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“After rate hikes this year, PG&E announces nearly 25% increase in profits to $2.2B for 2023″”PG&E customers already paid some of the highest energy bills in the country before 2024’s hikes.”

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

They need to be made a publicly owned, non profit utility.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 months ago
Reply to  well . . .

Have you ever lived in a world where the government was not being very creative in raising taxes or fees in some way or another? Or misusing their power to control necessities for political leverage? The solution for greed has never once been handing over more power.

Gary Whittaker
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Gary Whittaker
2 months ago

The fat cats at P.U.C. will side with at+t. They are wined and dined, get vacations, play golf and get to hob nob world wide year after year while letting residents regress into a 3rd world state from all utilities.

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 months ago
Reply to  Gary Whittaker

Regulatory capture rules the world.
One of the major reasons we don’t have trust worthy institutions.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 months ago

Check the age group in these photos. No one under 50 yr. Kids all have cell phones and are bitching for better coverage. Guess who is going to win?

Kiss your copper goodbye.

Mind Drive
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Mind Drive
2 months ago

How else am I to charge my cell phone during an emergency?
https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Get-Emergency-Power-from-a-Phone-Line/

Mind Drive
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Mind Drive
2 months ago
Reply to  Mind Drive

Just kidding. I got me one of them PowerPots from Smart Tank. Repeatedly boiling water over a campfire while plugged-in is a hassle, though.

side-by-side-1-telephone-adapter-charging-a-cellphone-via-landline-2-power-practical-powerpot-charging-a-cellphone-over-fire
Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 months ago
Reply to  Mind Drive

Mind Drive
Brain power is the best way to charge a cell phone. Use your head and get a cheap battery box that takes rechargeables or regular batteries. There are many off-the-shelf cell phone battery back-ups. Or get a 12 volt adaptor that clips onto a car battery or outlet in your car. Also, they make small solar panels for charging cell phones anywhere the sun shines.
Telephone battery power is not good. They aren’t found just anywhere.

Humboldt
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Humboldt
2 months ago

Yeah, I noticed that too.
All elderly people who have had landlines all along.

There’s a reassurance knowing that the 911 computers know, automatically, one’s address when calling from a landline.

If you were having a medical emergency and called 911, and couldn’t speak, they’d still know where you were. Not so with a cellphone…

It’s a real quandary.

Once, my landline had a short at the demark, the box outside where the line is connected.

It was making the signal flicker.

The phone rang and it was a 911 operator.

She said she was calling to see if I was okay. They saw that my line was trying to call out.

You wouldn’t get that with a cellphone.

Additionally, and I don’t see it addressed in this article, is regarding CALIFORNIA LIFELINE SERVICE. Lifeline is a legislated service that ensures phone service to all, regardless of income.

Lifeline pays for, either, subsidizing landline phones or providing a free cellphone, such as is given to the homeless. Those little umbrella stands on Broadway in Eureka where they hand out free phones. Colloquially referred to as “Obama” phones.

To my knowledge, the free phones don’t have universal reception. I don’t think they can get a signal in Willow Creek, for example.

If we were forced to abandon landlines, in favor of cellphones, I think Lifeline customers would be left without phones, or have to budget for cellphones that actually work in this area. Expensive for one on a fixed income.
Until cellphones are able to provide constant, reliable service, and have GPS that is read by 911 computers, abandoning landline service will jeopardize the lives of some seniors.

I am a robot
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I am a robot
2 months ago
Reply to  Humboldt

I have had a Verizon cell phone for more than 20 years. I have NEVER been able to make a Verizon phone call from my home. I have wifi from Netlink 101 which works great as long as the power (PG&E) is working. AT&T calls me several times a week offering numerous products that they actually cannot deliver to me due to my location (and I am on the “do not call”list). Go figure……

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 months ago
Reply to  I am a robot

“I have had a Verizon cell phone for more than 20 years. I have NEVER been able to make a Verizon phone call from my home.”

🤣😂😅
Hilarious but undoubtedly true.

Just this week I made a call for my neighbor whose Verizon phone was not working.

Elon said he is adding phone call capability to X soon.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
2 months ago

Yeah, AT&T spokesperson reports back to board members, “We got this in the bag. All we have to do is ride it out for a few more years and everyone who had a landline will be dead. Problem solved.”

Marcella
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Marcella
2 months ago

Don’t leave us out in the cold, AT&T. Seniors need their landlines, especially those of us who live in rural areas and have a very limited Social Security income. We can barely afford our landlines and you want us to afford cellphones, 📱 that’s unrealistic! PLEASE don’t take our landlines 📞 landlines away, we need them and relie on them!!’

Bozo
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Bozo
2 months ago
Reply to  Marcella

Cheaper to buy a Starlink or other Satellite enabled phone for ‘no cell phone’ customer who’s not able to afford those devices.
That should be part of the de-copper ‘plan’.

thetallone
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thetallone
2 months ago
Reply to  Bozo

Not cheaper at all. I have a Tello sim card in my Android phone and my bill is 8 dollars a month and no contract. It works great. Starlink is $120/mo and $600 for the equipment. Other satellite options are similar. But I have a landline because I live in a canyon and there is zero cell signal. It’s an open secret that the phone companies don’t want to maintain the copper, because the cell biz is more profitable. Verizon maintenance guy told me this before they sold to Frontier, who are horrible, BTW.

Country Joe
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2 months ago

I’ve used Netlink 101 for decades without a problem. The have a strong backup generator.

Timb0D
Member
2 months ago

An easy fix would be for every service to use any tower and that tower’s identifiers no matter the service one is signed up for in these emergency situations. AT&T phone would temporarily become Verizon phones or T-Mobile phones or whatever. I’m fairly certain that SIM cards could be universally programmed to so this, and if not, work on the technology to make it happen.

thetallone
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thetallone
2 months ago
Reply to  Timb0

It doesn’t help those with no cell reception.