Disconnected: Is this the Beginning of the End of Landline Services?

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“Can you hear me now?” It’s not only the Verizon catchphrase, but what those trying to find a spot of service on their cell phones reiterate until a solid connection can be made. Going wireless has given many freedom from the cord while arguably, sacrificing the reliability of a landline. However, the option to have a landline may be a thing of the past if the California Public Utility Commission (CPUC) approves AT&T’s application for release of its obligations… leaving hundreds of thousands of California residents disconnected– many without the option to go wireless.

letter from cpuc informing att customers of the corporation's application to withdraw as a COLR and ETC

AT&T customers received this letter from the CPUC notifying them of the proceedings.

AT&T customers in California recently received notification from the CPUC of AT&T’s application to not only relieve the corporation of its obligations as a Carrier of Last Resort (COLR), but also its designation as an Eligible Telecommunications Carrier (ETC). The applications were filed by AT&T on March 3, 2023; however, many customers had no idea that their landline service was at risk until January of this year.

Throughout California, telecom companies are obligated to provide Plain Old Telephone Service (POTS) to all areas, ensuring connectivity even in remote or underserved regions. The petition by AT&T seeks to remove their obligation to their designated COLR areas, allowing the telecom company to discontinue copper-line phone service in their service areas if other voice service options are available. However, advocacy groups like The Utility Reform Network (TURN), Rural County Representatives of California (RCRC), The Center for Accessible Technology (CforAT), and the Advocates Office at the California Public Utilities Commission (Cal Advocates), to name a few, are opposing the applications.

map of california phone service carriers of last resort

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Tracy Rhine, Senior Policy Advocate with RCRC, who represents forty rural counties within California, engaging at the federal, state, and administrative level on issues such as wildfire, safety, telecommunications issues, and housing policies, is opposing AT&T’s petition that Rhine says will impact over 580,000 customers. Though AT&T promises to continue service to around 1400 customers that have been determined to have no other voice option, she says they too could face disconnection. “AT&T is not currently asking to be relieved of its obligations for those [1400] customers, however, in their petition, …they …put forth a streamlined process for future release of that obligation which would affect those other 1400 customers [too].

The Utility Reform Network, a statewide organization that advocates on behalf of residential and small business customers on key utility issues …at [CPUC], the legislature, the Federal Regulatory Commission, and Congress, has also officially opposed AT&T’s petitions. Regina Costa, the Telecommunications Policy Director for TURN, stated, “Universal telephone service is really essential for society. Being the Carrier of Last Resort means that everybody that AT&T serve[s], is entitled to have a service that will work, that you can use to communicate with your family, your friends, your job, your kids’ school, and people in Humboldt County know this very well.”

The petition submitted by AT&T would relieve them of a century-old obligation to the residents within their designated territories, leaving those within their service areas without guaranteed reliable communication access, leaving AT&T free to put profit over service, Costa said. “[T]hey could stop [service] within six months, and they could do things like picking and choosing …a part of town they think is more lucrative [to] put new facilities in and start offering their more advanced services in those areas. [T]hey could focus on the more affluent neighborhoods. They can even deny people service by running credit checks.”

Advocacy groups aren’t the only ones paying close attention to this matter, Costa said. If the CPUC approves AT&T’s requests, it will set a precedent that would allow other telecommunication companies to fast-track relief from their COLR designation, leaving many without the option of landline services. “I think all companies are watching with interest. [W]e are paying very close attention to this, not just from the standpoint of AT&T, but also from what the broader implications [are] … for companies like Frontier,” Costa said.  

With the rise in wireless usage, high speed internet, and broadband services, some, including AT&T, claim that landlines just aren’t necessary any longer. And it’s true that many California residents have been ditching their landlines in favor of the freedom and convenience of wireless devices. However, advocacy groups, emergency service providers, and residents wanting to retain their landline services, warn of the inadequacy of the newer technology compared to POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service).

Rhine stated that in rural areas where large gaps in cell and broadband services are prevalent, a common occurrence like a power outage or a cut line to a wireless cell tower, can leave residents cut off for days due to the lack of redundant services available.  “Though there may be wireless for some of those customers as an alternative, it doesn’t mean it’s reliable or sufficient service,” said Rhine.

map of impacted AT&T customer in Humbolt County

Map of impacted customers in Humboldt County and east, submitted to the CPUC by AT&T. Click map for an interactive map to search your area.

According to Costa, AT&T has been wanting to sever ties to its POTS lines for a while, neglecting the network, and encouraging their customers to ditch their copper landlines for either wireless service or the VoIP line (Voice over Internet Protocol). Though VoIP service may look like a traditional telephone service it is serviced by internet capabilities, dependent on power, one of the first utilities to fail in emergency situations.

A northern Humboldt resident who has Starlink internet and cell service in addition to an AT&T landline wrote in an email interview, “[W]e use the landline if we want to reliably be able to have a phone conversation.” Additionally, the resident stated that though Starlink can be used for internet calling, when a power outage occurs, their landline is the only means of communication, including to PG&E.  “We sometimes use Wi-Fi calling. We use Starlink for internet but no power means no internet, so it’s good to have our landline which has reliable reception.  For example, we use our landline to report outages to PG&E and to get updates and notifications.”

Rural residents aren’t the only ones opposing or potentially impacted by AT&T’s petition of relief. On the CPUC website, residents from all over the state, including Oakland and Los Angeles, have voiced concerns.

TURN’s Costa said that urban residents can also be impacted though they have more service redundancies built into their areas. She said, “I think rural communities have it the worst, [but] I think urban communities would also suffer from this.”

Cell service can have dead zones even in cities or a person could have a service contract with a carrier that doesn’t work at their residence. She also stated that when emergencies strike, power outages often occur simultaneously, depowering cell towers, and overburdening those remaining.  “This is what happened in Marin County during the fires in 2017. And I think it was also 2019, where a lot of the cell sites went down, and the ones that were left, you could barely talk because there was so many people trying to use the system,” Costa stated.

Other agencies are also concerned with the implications to emergency situations including county sheriffs on the North Coast.  Mendocino County Sheriff, Matt Kendall, said, “It’s really concerning for all of us who have rural counties, because honestly, we don’t have cell connectivity in the largest portions of our counties.” The phone interview with Kendall was, itself, delayed forty-five minutes while he traversed a portion of Highway 20 that had no cell service. “I couldn’t have called you if I needed to,” he stated.

map of impacted AT&T customer in lake and Mendocino counties

Map of impacted customers in Mendocino County and east, submitted to the CPUC by AT&T. Click map for an interactive map to search your area.

Kendall, along with sheriffs from Humboldt, Siskiyou, and Trinity counties recently discussed the CPUC proceedings and how, if approved, the loss of landlines would impact their counties. The Mendocino Sheriff said that loss of landlines in emergency situations would mean an increase in welfare checks on the counties’ residents to assure their safety instead of relying on contacting them via telephone, adding to the heavy workload the rural sheriffs are under. 

In Humboldt County, Ryan Derby, Program Manager of the county’s Office of Emergency Services, is also concerned about the impacts during emergencies. “The big problem with this proposal is that landlines in rural California, oftentimes, are maybe the one and only method of communication between residents and emergency services providers as a beneficial service for emergency management, because landlines can still work during power outages.”

Power, a looming issue for northern Mendocino and Southern Humboldt residents due to grid capacity issues, also seems to be an area of concern for communications reliability. Due to wildfire concerns, Public Safety Power Shutoffs (PSPS) are scheduled for high-risk weather incidents leaving some without power for days. The lines themselves are vulnerable to wildfire and extreme weather events, the situations when residents are most likely to need to contact emergency services.

“I guess my fear around this is that losing those landline services, that’s going to put our most rural communities in Humboldt County at increased risk,” Derby shared.

However, when power is lost, the tried and true, oft times deemed antiquated, service of POTS, remains the most reliable source of communication–a source that those opposed to AT&T’s attempt to move away from copper-line services, say is a necessary service especially during emergencies.

“The first rule of managing any disaster is communication. And the two things that we do not lose during that time is local radio, and our copper telephone lines,” Sheriff Kendall said.

Humboldt County’s OES Program Manager stated, “Some people may argue that it’s antiquated, but it doesn’t put that strain on our electric grid, and similarly, when there is prolonged power outages, those landlines are often the only thing that is still working. If you have cell towers that are working, but you don’t have an ability to charge your cell phones, it’s not gonna work.”

Jeannie, a Trinidad resident, relayed, “I have a heart condition, …and if I don’t have a landline, and my cell service is not functioning well, which is common here, …I have no way of calling 911.”

“[Having] my AT&T landline is really a matter of life or death,” the 73-year-old resident stated.

AT&T’s petition to relinquish their ETC (Eligible Telecommunications Carrier) designation, according to Costa, goes hand-in-hand with the much more concerning COLR relief application. “We see these two things as interrelated,” she stated.

A carrier in California with an ETC designation meets certain regulatory requirements and obligations, that receives federal and state funding to provide reliable and affordable telephone service to customers without discrimination. In its application, AT&T argues that a federal Lifeline funding expiration makes their release of ETC designation a non-issue. However, Costa says that the expiration on funding may not happen.

“It’s not exactly true that the federal funding will stop. The FCC made, what we thought, was a very bad decision a few years ago, assuming that all service was going over to the broadband or advanced services, and it was no longer going to support voice service offered by itself, called standalone voice service. Under federal law, [the FCC is] not really supposed to be supporting broadband service with those monies, because those monies are from surcharges on voice, telephone service, both landline and cellular.”

Additionally, there’s also ongoing funds through the California LifeLine program used in tandem with the federal Lifeline program to ensure that landline services are affordable to low-income households. If either the ETC or COLR relief applications are approved, the state’s most vulnerable and disadvantaged may be impacted the most severely, losing both access to a landline but possibly the ability to have an affordable source of communication altogether.

California residents can comment on the CPUC proceedings as they consider AT&T’s petitions. As of the writing of this article, the petition of relief from COLR obligations had 2,133 comments in opposition, and the petition to relinquish their ETC designation had 587 opposing comments. Many of the comments were from older, and rural residents that reiterated the concerns voiced by advocacy groups and emergency response personnel.

A Willits resident described the isolation during wildfire events six years ago, “During the fires in October of 2017, Willits had no cell phone or internet service. That meant for 3 days we had no ATMs for money, no social media for news (we are not covered by any TV news station despite them being on our cable/antenna) and no contact with anyone you were not staring at.” Through the resident’s AT&T landline service, she was able to contact her daughter who was being evacuated from Sonoma State, providing critical information in an emergency situation. “Technology has not made the landline obsolete…if anything technology’s vulnerabilities have shown how important it is to have old-school redundancies in place,” she shared in the public forum.

Connectivity during a wildfire was a common topic in many of the comments submitted. One Santa Rosa resident wrote that when the deadly Tubbs Fire broke out, cell towers were down, leaving the residents, sleeping and unaware, until their landline rang in the middle of the night with the alert to evacuate immediately, very likely saving their lives.

A Fort Bragg resident wrote, “I would like to reiterate the previous sentiment that “landlines are lifelines”. True figuratively and true literally. A very very important necessity of rural life here on the Mendocino Coast.”

“I understand in the electronic world that most people live with all the modern electronic devices. I even have some myself.” A 77-year-old Blocksburg resident wrote in her comment to the CPUC. Since her husband’s passing, the AT&T customer said she lives alone, an hour from town. “[L]iving rural like I do as do many of my neighbors we are last to get service when power goes out and the landline is our only LIFELINE for communication.”

For some, the loss of a landline is a loss of connection in more ways than one. A Eureka mother urged the CPUC to decline AT&T’s requests, writing, “My landline has been my main-stay my entire life. My son is still missing, and this landline must remain intact, or he will not be able to find me since I had to move twice.”

State map all of the impacted AT&T regions, submitted to the CPUC by AT&T. Click map for an interactive map to search your area.

If approved by the CPUC, over 580,000 AT&T customers in California stand to lose access to guaranteed landline service. Click map for an interactive map to search your area.

Highlighting the widespread need for landline services, even those in charge of responding to emergencies said they’d be impacted if AT&T discontinues their POTS copper-lines. Mendocino County’s chief emergency official, Sheriff Kendall, said, “I don’t have cell service where I live. I was able to get internet at my place where I can actually now make a call if I have power to the internet, but if the power goes out, I need my landline.”

Many opposing residents commented on what they claim is greed on AT&T’s part, ditching landline obligations now that POTS are not as profitable as the wireless and broadband networks.

A Eureka resident wrote to the CPUC, “Those that are less fortunate economically, or in isolated locations where cell phones or internet don’t work, should not have to suffer because of the greed of a few at the top of the AT&T corporate ladder.”

“AT&T takes our money but doesn’t want to do the job they signed up for,” stated a Fort Bragg resident.

TURN’s Costa agrees, “They do have an obligation to serve, and they have benefited from the fact that they are the dominant provider of service in local communities. They get tremendous benefits from that – they get access to public rights of way, they co-own many of the utility poles that they use to provide their service, and that any other competitor would need access to, in order to offer service. They control all of that, and they get that as this bonus, but they think that they can just throw up their hands and walk away. It’s not that easy. And we hope that the Commission doesn’t let them do that.”

As residents, along with emergency personnel, speak out about the necessity of landlines, advocacy groups continue to oppose and draw attention to AT&T’s proceedings within the CPUC.

In addition to posting comments on the CPUC website, interested parties can attend public meetings to be heard. Costa emphasized, “It’s really important for the public to make themselves known in the public participation hearings.”

There are four public hearings scheduled over the next two months. We’ve included the schedule and additional information on these proceedings below.

Public Hearing Schedule 

WHEN  FORMAT  LOCATION 
February 6, 2024
2 p.m. and 6 p.m.
In-person only Clovis City Council Chambers
1033 5th Street, Clovis, CA 93612
February 22, 2024 
2 p.m. and 6 p.m.
In-person only Mendocino County Board of Supervisors
501 Low Gap Road, Room 1070, Ukiah, CA 95482
March 14, 2024
2 p.m. and 6 p.m.
In-person only Indio City Hall Council Chambers
100 Civic Center Mall, Indio, CA 92201
March 19, 2024
2 p.m. and 6 p.m.
Virtual only Remote access via webcast or phone.
Live video broadcast with English or Spanish captions
via webcast: www.adminmonitor.com/ca/cpucPhone: 1-800-857-1917, passcode: 6032788#

To view and/or comment on AT&T’s relief of Carrier of Last Resort application, click here.

To view and/or comment on AT&T’s relinquishment of Eligible Telecommunications Carrier Designation application, click here.

This article is written by Lisa Music, a local freelance journalist. To reach Lisa about tips, questions or comments, email her at [email protected]

 

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Heidi
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Heidi
3 months ago

Wow. Unbelievable. Thanks for the very well laid out rundown and the links to comment.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
3 months ago
Reply to  Heidi

Starlink phone for stationary service? You get internet too!

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Festus Haggins
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Festus Haggins
3 months ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Mr. Musk announced awhile back that he partnered up with T-Mobile and is going to offer text over satellite this year and voice next year. That would spell the end of cell towers and the line of site operation.

Korina42D
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3 months ago
Reply to  Festus Haggins

Unless he turns it all off in a fit of pique.

Shel
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Shel
3 months ago

Remember the pictures from the Fukushima earthquake of people queueing up at the pay phones.
Love the time slots they have for public comment so working folks aren’t easily able/ can’t participate.

Bonnie
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Bonnie
3 months ago

Fabulous job reporting on this very important topic. I even got a mention in the commenter section. Folks need to step up because it is the power of people and our voice that make a difference and Humboldt County is good for that. Even if you don’t have a Landline please speak out for those that do.

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3 months ago
Reply to  Bonnie

Unfortunately AT&T has already abrogated their legal responsibility and the CPUC has known it for years. They will not enforce anything. The fines are less costly to AT&T than compliance and everyone has agreed they can or will not make them.

Mr. Clark
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Mr. Clark
3 months ago

ATT will keep the cream but dump the obligation. That obligation is form its portion of the network it established along with all the other phone companies back in the 50s. They all got exclusive rights to their areas. They all collected monthly income form the public users. EXCLUSIVELY! $$$$. Now they will only service fiber and internet systems. ATT wants to become an entertainment venue, and step away form their obligations.

Guest
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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Now there is a rarely heard word these days. Obligation.

BridgevillemikeD
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3 months ago

Is there one single reason the CPUC would approve this? I dumped AT&T 3 years ago and went with VOIP and 101Netlink but that isn’t an option for a lot of people. The AT&T technician that pulled the cable for my house used his Verizon cell phone for work since AT&T basically has zero coverage in rural areas. How about if AT&T agrees to at least install adequate cell towers before they are allowed to remove the landlines.

Guest
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Guest
3 months ago

Woohoo! There’s an idea. But can there ever be enough cell phone towers capable of reaching every nook and cranny in an area of mountain, valleys and redwood trees?
I gave up on AT&T more than ten years ago because the line would cease working but to report it took using a cell phone anyway. Then the same ritual happened where I would be forced to agree to pay for the technician checking if it turned out to not be AT&T at fault. Which it always was. The technician would switch it to another circuit at the junction box at the bottom of the hill. But that didn’t restore service so I’d have to repeat the call, agree to pay and wait again. After maybe the third such dance, it would work again for a few months. Then the whole ritual would repeat.
Once I watched a phone line that had dropped onto the road get driven over for ten days even though it had been reported the same day. All it needed was to be reattached as the pole was not damaged. I will give at&t that. That dang line was tough- kept working, getting more and more static, for a week of being driven over. But it was clear that AT&T simply was not looking for long term maintenance.

Georga B
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Georga B
3 months ago

lately it seems there has been a switch- now ATT has more service than Verizon. I recently had to switch to ATT because my Verizon phone never had signal.

Sara
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Sara
3 months ago

Capitalism is great. Especially when it involves a life saving necessity! When profit’s involved, that’s ALL that matters. Yay.

Guest
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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Sara

As opposed to those necessities supplied by non-capitalists. Like- well you need to supply some examples because it really hard to find them. Maybe North Korea? Iran? Well ironically the Catholic Church is a non capitalist entity in principle although pretty fluent in capitalism in reality. Even Social Security is not a real socialist entity as it is not run by its beneficiaries for their own benefit.

Korina42D
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3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Reminds me of this.

socialism-v-capitalism
Timb0D
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3 months ago
Reply to  Sara

U got that right, but not just with life saving needs. After 40 years of paying home insurance, with no claims, I was dropped… for my hobby of restoring cars on my property in SoCo! It was never a problem before. I do not live in a fire prone area, but hey–whatever excuse they can use to deny you. I suppose that I shouldn’t ask for my 30g’s payments back from the ins. co.?

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3 months ago
Reply to  Timb0

Insurance is not a bank. Premiums are not an account. If they were, if you lost an insured house, all they would cover is what you had in the account.

Jim Dogger
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Jim Dogger
3 months ago
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Ya it’s a scam

tru matters
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tru matters
3 months ago

I posted the letter ATT sent out about this weeks ago. Everyone was telling me how old fashion I was. My internet service is also thru that same line. Will that be affected?

ATT has all ready bored holes around Arcata to run fiber optic cable.

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Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
3 months ago

Reality is running over us like a truck that has lost control. Landlines are no longer a viable option.

Giving up our landlines at the store and at home was one of the most difficult things we, personally, have ever done. That land line was our security. When everything else failed we still had that land line… No more. The service was poor and the expense was not reasonable, we finally had to let the copper lines go.

At least we had other options, we live were cell service works, many do not. 101 netlink was the vanguard in providing Voice Over Internet Provider. So we have useable options.

We need something like The Rural Electrification Administration where electric lines were run to rural folks when it was not feasible without government help. We need reliable wireless connectivity everywhere. But, “government help” has become a oxymoron.

Oh my God, I’m becoming my “Crazy Uncle”. Looking back, he was right about everything he ranted about. Yet, he was about effective a a dog barking at the moon. They say stress is a having a problem that you can’t solve. Welcome to my world.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
3 months ago

My landline burned up in the 2021 fires. I couldn’t get a hold of anyone at Frontier to stop charging me so I just stopped paying them. As far as I know the line is still not working. Starlink does much better than Frontier.

Annee
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Annee
3 months ago

I choose to NOT have a cell phone. I know in this age and time it is looked upon as a little odd, I would hate to lose our landlines. When power is out my OLD push button phone still keeps on working, gotta love it!😊

Wayne
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Wayne
3 months ago
Reply to  Annee

Its not only the ONLY thing working where we live when the power is out, its also part of a National Emergency System that was FREE.
Guess thats why ATT/Verizon/et al seem to hate them so much.
We dont own a smartphone either. Soon we will starve, once the stores stop selling anything to anyone without their ‘Data’. (As they are already starting to!) When the power goes down for more than a few days, suddenly smartphones lose their charm.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
3 months ago
Reply to  Wayne

Wife and I both have flip phones, technically burners, but we’ve had the same numbers for 15 or so years. I’ve only barely heard about using data at stores but still haven’t seen it nor spoken to anyone who has. Although, I did recently have a friend ask if I did venmo when I was buying a couple pool squares for this weekend’s game. Again, heard of venmo, no idea how it works. Also, flip phone = no apps, so don’t explain it.

We also have a land-line which supplies our internet. And we live in town, Eureka. During more than a few decent storms when everyone was out of cell and power, we could plug in our old rotary and call, well, someone else with a rotary, or a more important part of town with priority power restoration. Oh yeah, though irrelevant to this story, we also have the 30 foot pigtail cord so we can hide in the closet so our parents, er, kids, no wait, grandkids can’t hear us giggling with our friends on the other end. And if we had alternate power for the router and Wi-Fi, we’d have internet also.

Since I’m still a working stiff and probably won’t make any of the public comment meetings, I’ll say it here: we use our land-line on a daily basis. Who are we kidding? They won’t read this. And if you think they listen to you at the public comment meetings, be sure to check their note pads for doodles.

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Casey Jones
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Casey Jones
2 months ago
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Modern technology causes CANCER. Brain cancer, and cancers of the ears are on the rise due to cell phone usage, plus other devices as well, including tablets, and laptops. Loss of landline phones will greatly increase LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTY in emergencies. Also, I was told by the SSA that landline phones are an REQUIREMENT. I will attempt to contact them now. My cell phone is not any good. Nobody can hear me, and it rarely even allows me to make calls. The SYSTEM often reads OUT OF SERVICE/ EMERGENCY CALLS ONLY, but 911 does NOT even work. Extremely scary. I am not elderly but suffer from chronic illness. My days are numbered, but so is everyone elses, and especially in these horrific end times.

Shaka
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Shaka
3 months ago

Nowadays a lot wouldn’t know what the phone in the pic is called

Old SchoolD
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3 months ago

Landline is powered by batteries. During a PG&E power outage last year In February 2023 my landline died after 3 days here in Kneeland, first time in my lifetime that a landline failed. Days later AT&T told me that they are not maintaining landline batteries or have any backup batteries in my area. They plan on ending such service.

notheone
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notheone
3 months ago
Reply to  Old School

I’m not sure what you mean? Do you mean your landline hand set needs batteries? I have an old fashioned landline push button phone that plugs in and works during power outages.

Guest
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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  notheone

AT&T uses batteries to charge their lines when there is no power.

Bozo
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Bozo
3 months ago

Might as well face it. Starlink or other satellite phone is is the way to go now for rural service. Latest iPhone now has satellite emergency service (only text for now).

“Telephone and Telegraph”… that’s all history now.

— internet stuff
With iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Pro, iPhone 15, or iPhone 15 Pro, you can use Emergency SOS via satellite to text emergency services when you’re out of cell service.

Looks like Elon picked another winner.

Timb0D
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3 months ago

In a related story, bulhorns, signal drums, flare guns and smoke signal blankets are selling out fast. Get yours now.

notheone
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notheone
3 months ago

My landline is my life line. There is no internet cell service without power out here on Hwy 36. This just isn’t right! I’ve always hated AT&T. Now I have more reasons. Profit over people!

Susan Nolan
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Susan Nolan
3 months ago

Thanks to Lisa and RHBB for the deep dig on this story.

Amanda Malachesky
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Amanda Malachesky
3 months ago

It’s pretty rich that all the public connect options are in person only, except one that requires internet, that is, if you have internet service that works. Once again, Humboldt is left in the dust due to distance and crap telecommunications…grrr

HalfACenturianD
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HalfACenturian
3 months ago

And “Free phones” are a nightmare; they have forced advertisements and the sales people show up randomly with their tent and when the phone doesn’t work you have to send it in someplace and meanwhile you are without a phone and are not guaranteed a replacement. I helped an elderly neighbor try to get one and after 20 calls to various related agencies, 3 phones (1 never worked, another worked for a week and another for a month) we gave up. The sales guys have become creepy recently (4 years ago they seemed OK). I watched as they told social workers who walked up with questions all that someone needs is an ID and Calfresh or Partnership card but when social workers all cheery and glad to hear it left the sales guy then asked people for much more information. One of the sales people said admittedly “These are just burner phones” but could upgrade for 40$ a month. Never having had to rely on public assistance i didn’t realize until helping someone who also hadn’t been on it in their adulthood either what a nightmare it is…a full time job, invasive, unreliable, nerve wracking…the best are the strictly government agencies such as section 8 (most transparent and accountable) and the worst are the private companies such as Optimum and Assurance wireless who mooch off of government programs and erroneously also bill the clients and have no accountability apparently.

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Jelly roll
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Jelly roll
3 months ago

There was a time in this country when people felt entitled to affordable and privately underwritten home insurance no matter that they lived where earthquakes, hurricanes, and/or wildfires raged. No more (affordable or even attainable in some cases). Some people have felt entitled to quick and comprehensive fire protection services from the government no matter that they lived out in the woods and/or where wildfires raged. No more (private fire protection services has become a growth industry). Just because one feels legitimately entitled to a given service, especially where profit driven capitalists have provided it in the past, has absolutely no sway over whether that service will be provided tomorrow or not. AT&T can shut off wireline service at any moment and no part of the state or federal government will successfully force that $126 billion corporation to turn it back on anytime soon (the break-up was decades in the courts). Unless your choice of where to live is a case of complete coercion, you own every consequence of your choice.

Hummm
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Hummm
3 months ago

My 90 year old Mother has a land line and a cell phone. The problem is that she usually can’t remember how to use her cell phone. Her land line is her link to her family and her friends as well as her medical needs. It is a life or death situation for her too.
Potential for Elder Abuse?

boudoures
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boudoures
3 months ago
Reply to  Hummm

Hold the button on the side of iPhone and it will dial 911

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
2 months ago
Reply to  boudoures

Sounds like a butt dial waiting to happen with consequences worse than your boss hearing you partying on a sick day.

Martin
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Martin
3 months ago

AT&T service is just plain crap. I am not sorry to see them leave at all!

Can You Fucking Hear Us?
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Can You Fucking Hear Us?
3 months ago

Frontier in Mendocino County is the worst phone dis-service in my entire life living here since I was born 73 years ago…

KGO ch 7 in SF covered it today on the 11am news but only as a brief headline & only mentioned ATT & no other telco’s, such as Frustrating Frontier.

I feel KGO was slanted in that they made it sound like ATT would be justified in shutting down because only 7% of rural populations use landlines…that info was provided by ATT & not fact checked. I called KGO TV News (415-853-7777) I told them it’s not just ATT & that many folks are in great peril with medical conditions that live where there is no cell service, or at best it’s unreliable cell signal.

They're not listening to US !!!
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They're not listening to US !!!
3 months ago

Correction… the correct number for KGO TV NEWS is 415-954-7777

Fred
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Fred
3 months ago

P,G& E is next to cut off rural service. You will have the choice of solar, starting a REA CO-OP or a wind turbine.