CDPH Releases Latest COVID Statistics for California

Press release from the CDPH:

CDPH California department of public healthToday, the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) released the most recent statistics on COVID-19 and updates on the state’s pandemic response. The most up to date data is available on the state’s COVID-19 data dashboard.

Statewide COVID-19 Data

Rates of cases, hospitalizations and deaths are highest among unvaccinated individuals and lowest among boosted individuals. This is true for all age groups. See additional data for unvaccinated and vaccinated cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

covid infographicVaccinations

  • 85,632,857 total vaccines administered.
  • 72.4% of the population has been vaccinated with a primary series.
  • 37,481 people a day are receiving COVID-19 vaccination (average daily dose count over 7 days).

Cases

  • California has 10,651,573 confirmed cases to date.
  • Today’s average case count is 5,446 (average daily case count over 7 days).
  • During October 2022, unvaccinated people were 2.2 times more likely to get COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series.

Testing

  • The testing positivity rate is 10.8% (average rate over 7 days).

Hospitalizations

  • There are 3,793 hospitalizations statewide.
  • There are 408 ICU patients statewide.
  • During October 2022, unvaccinated people were 2.4 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series.

Deaths

  • There have been 96,803 COVID-19 deaths since the start of the pandemic.
  • COVID-19 claims the lives of 14 Californians each day (average daily death count over 7 days).
  • During October 2022, unvaccinated people were 3.1 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series.

Top 5 Tips to Protect Against Winter Viruses

In case you missed it in an earlier release, public health officials are reminding Californians to take simple and effective steps to protect themselves and their families against the winter viruses currently spreading across the state, including COVID-19, the flu, and RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus). RSV has led to an increase in hospitalizations of children across the stay, and slowing the spread is critical as we enter the end of year holidays.

Follow these five simple tips to protect against winter viruses:

  • Get Vaccinated, Boosted (and Treated)
    Flu shots and COVID-19 vaccines and boosters continue to be your best defense to limit severe illness and death – and you can get both at the same time.
  • Stay Home if You’re Sick, and Test for COVID
    Staying home when you’re sick slows the spread of flu, RSV and COVID-19. If you’re sick, remember to test for COVID and contact your doctor immediately if you’re positive to discuss treatment options. Treatments work best when started right after symptoms begin.
  • Wear a Mask 
    There is no vaccine for RSV, so wearing a mask can significantly slow the spread and protect babies and young children who do not yet have immunity and are too young to wear a mask themselves. Wearing a mask in indoor public places is a good way to limit the spread of germs.
  • Wash Your Hands
    Frequent handwashing, with soap and warm water – for at least 20 seconds, is an easy and effective way to prevent getting sick and spreading germs.
  • Cover Your Cough or Sneeze
    Remember to cough or sneeze into your elbow, your arm, or a disposable tissue to help prevent the spread of winter viruses. Just make sure to wash your hands or sanitize and dispose of your tissue after.

Slow the Spread: Get Vaccinated and Boosted for COVID-19

The risk for COVID-19 exposure and infection continues as a number of Californians remain unvaccinated and unboosted.

Real-world evidence continues to show that the vaccine prevents severe illness, hospitalization, and death. Public health officials urge Californians to get vaccinated and boosted as soon as they are eligible.

It is recommended that every individual six months of age and older receive their primary COVID-19 vaccine series and booster dose, if eligible.

Find a vaccine near you by visiting myturn.ca.gov or calling 1-833-422-4255. The consent of a parent or legal guardian may be needed for those under age 18 to receive a vaccination. Visit Vaccinate All 58 to learn more about the safe and effective vaccines available for all Californians six months of age and older.

If you have COVID-19 symptoms, get tested immediately and talk to a health care provider right away if you test positive to learn if you qualify for treatment. You can also find Test to Treat locations that offer COVID-19 testing and free treatment. If you are uninsured, you can access testing and treatment services for free at OptumServe Test to Treat locations.

Your Actions Save Lives

Protect yourself, family, friends and community by following these prevention measures:

  • Wear A Mask: California’s COVID-19 mask guidance aligns with CDC COVID-19 Community Levels. Know your community level to evaluate risk and inform your decision on when to mask. Local policies may go beyond state requirements based on local conditions. Masking is also recommended to protect yourselves and your loved ones from the spread of other winter viruses when they are circulating widely, including flu and RSV.
  • Upgrade Your Mask: Good fit and filtration continue to be the best way to get the most out of your mask. The best masks for preventing COVID-19 include the N95, KN95 and KF94. If you don’t have access to one of these masks, wear a surgical mask or a surgical mask with a cloth mask on top. If you choose a fabric mask, opt for one with three or more cloth layers. No matter what kind of mask you wear, check the fit by avoiding gaps above the nose or on the sides.
  • My Vaccine Record is an easy way to show vaccination status at venues or businesses that require proof of vaccination. Visit myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov today to get your vaccine record.
  • Travel Tips: Do not travel if you are sick or have tested positive for COVID-19. Make sure you are up to date on your COVID-19 and other vaccines before travel (both domestic and international). See the CDC’s full travel guidance.
  • Add Your Phone to the Fight: Sign up for COVID-19 exposure notifications from CA Notify. Also, individuals who test positive for COVID-19 – including those who test at home – are able to alert others of a potential exposure more quickly and conveniently. Individuals can now initiate the notification process as soon as they are aware of their positive test result. For more information, please visit the “Notify Others” page on CA Notify.
  • Sign-Up for COVID-19 Policy Alerts: COVID-19 Policy Alerts provide up-to-date information regarding CDPH COVID-19 guidance and policy, including changes to orders, mandatory guidance and more. Registrants will receive prompt email alerts to updated guidance and policy available on our website as well as accompanying translations. Sign-up for the COVID-19 Policy Alerts emails today.
  • Check with your local health department about local conditions. Local health departments may have policies that are stricter than state guidance.

Tracking COVID-19 in California

Recommendations for a Healthy 2022-23 School Year

Health Care Workers

  • As of November 29, local health departments have reported 184,555 confirmed positive cases in health care workers and 595 deaths statewide.

Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C)

  • As of November 14, there have been 1,036 cases of Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C) reported statewide. MIS-C is a rare inflammatory condition associated with COVID-19 that can damage multiple organ systems. MIS-C can require hospitalization and be life threatening.

www.cdph.ca.gov

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grey fox
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1 year ago

Snoop Lion..

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Though it’s hard for some to wrap their heads around it, Covid cases are on the rise in California.
If you follow the link you can also see unvaccinated v. Vaccinated data. Cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

You are mistaken.

That is untrue misinformation.

Please show current evidence that COVID cases are on the rise in California.

You can’t.

Because…

According to the CDC…

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklycases_select_00

COVID cases have actually decreased in California over the last week reported,
11/23/2022 vs. 11/30/2022…

By 1.22%

306,856 to 303,101, respectively.

Here is a screenshot of the CDC bar graph for cases in California…

(The proof…)

I wonder how hard it will be for some to wrap their heads around the actual truth.

P.S.

That graph you just posted shows information that is a month old, and is for hospitalizations, vaccinated vs. unvaccinated, not cases…🤷‍♂️

Not sure where you got your incorrect case data…

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I was using this graph which shows a rise.
But your right, there was a drop since then according to the CDC.
I should have double checked.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Actually as more information comes in these cases graphs are not a really accurate measure of cases in California as a lot of people hometest and don’t report it.
And new data is showing a rise in cases and hospitalizations thru out CA.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Because some graph is not up-to-date does not mean it is “untrue misinformation.” It was accurate for the time period indicated.
Get a grip!

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Penguinn

Thanks.
And actually he just found the info himself or he would have brought it up sooner..

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

That isn’t true either…

I also posted it on the previous covid report, 3 hours ago…

https://kymkemp.com/2022/11/30/4-new-hospitalizations-146-new-cases/#comment-1583980

As far as being mistaken, you’re on quite a roll…

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Well now looking into it deeper I am calling the data into question. Numbers are not matching.
So until next weeks numbers come out I am withholding judgement.

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Different graph….???
How do you figure???

Same jist…

Same source…

Same dates…

Look on the left, the scale is in hundred thousands… On the right it is in per hundred thousand…

What is it you can’t see???

Can’t admit you are wrong, huh…???

Your 11/23 41,299…,

and 11/30 39,963…,

Are obviously single day totals…

Basically, it’s not really part of the discussion.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

? That is for US. I thought we were talking California..

Is the graph you said was for California actually for the United States?
Can you provide a screenshot of the first graph showing what is related to?

The US or California?

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Your numbers were for California, not single day totals for the US, that was my error, I admit.

The above graph clearly states it’s for the US.

I posted both graphs, for CA and for US.

I got them mixed up a bit…

They both show current case decreases.

I hope that clarifies things.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

This is the graph I want proof of that it is California data. This is the graph you said was for California.

Also you said “ I also posted it on the previous covid report, 3 hours ago”referring to what you said was the California data.
When actually it was US data in the other article.

Another “goof?”

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Looks like I posted the graph for the whole US on the earlier press release

The graph for California I posted above

https://kymkemp.com/2022/12/02/cdph-releases-latest-covid-statistics-for-california/#comment-1584039

But I inadvertently used the numbers from the graph I posted for the entire US, from the previous article…

In that regard I goofed up a bit, but the jist is still the same,

The numbers you gave, 11/23, 41,299 and 11/30, 39,963, are from the graph I posted earlier, on this article…

Thanks for helping me to show that the cases actually decreased in California 3.23%, considerably more of a case decrease in California, than the case decrease of 1.22% for the US as a whole…

So what was that about cases increasing in California…???

Or even in the US…???

Um… Nope….

You went from…

“Though it’s hard for some to wrap their heads around it, Covid cases are on the rise in California.”

To helping me to prove that cases actually DECREASED in California 3.23% in the last week reported…

Even though it took about 3 hours…

🤔🧐I’d call that progress…🤷‍♂️😁

Good job!

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Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Except I never claimed that cases were increasing, or that anyone was having trouble wrapping their heads around that.

That’s was a foul.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Actually I fact checked myself. So. no harm no foul.

And you “goofed” up more than a bit,
Like 300,000 goofs.

And you still need to prove to me the first graph is for California.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Covid , the flu isn’t going anywhere, get used to these numbers being the norm. The boomer generation is on its way out , and as usual, most our elders die of some sort of a flu. Just like they have for centuries, how is this not easily seen? We aren’t the only country that had a baby boom in the forties and fifties. Sometimes the answer is right in front of our noses. We never tracked the flu like 2020 before and we have record number of seniors, what’s that spell? Am I missing something?

What’sReallyGoingOn?
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What’sReallyGoingOn?
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

🤔you’re onto something there…

Weren’t they defiant of “The Man” back in the day?

Now they’re dependent on “The Man” for their livelihoods today and voted for “The Big Guy” yesterday?

The ones responsible for the Wet Dream of the class of ‘68 that is failing miserably?

They’re the ones that are gonna be dropping like flies whenever Fauci coughs.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Also the CDC graph I found stated different numbers

Nov 23 41,299 cases

Nov 30 39,963

Where are you getting the 300,000 numbers?

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

I provided the link, I don’t need to repeat it, look up…

And you do realize even your numbers indicate a decrease, right…???

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

I don’t see a link for your screenshot…

Here are two screenshots from the link that I posted, above…

Note the slightly darkened bar, that the number of cases pertains to…

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

And here is the screenshot from November 30th …

It was a little tricky navigating the CDC site, to get to this graph…

I could try and walk you through it, if you want…

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Is that graph for California or for the U.S.?

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

I posted both the US and California graphs, got them mixed up.

The both show a decrease in cases, 11/23-11/30, 2022.

A 1.22% decrease and a 3.23% decrease, respectively.

Enough said.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

But you said you were going to walk me thru it.

Looks like I was the one to walk you thru it.

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

No, you were groping around getting nowhere on the CDPH site until I went to the CDC site…

Then you followed me there.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Follow you? You were lost till I straightened you out.

But you did provide the CDC link, I give you that.

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

You were the one that was clearly lost, claiming in error today, and yesterday that cases were increasing in California…

I straightened you out, but I don’t think you have fully acknowledged that you were wrong, and that in fact cases have been decreasing while you have been insisting that they have been increasing…

You might have admitted it for a minute, but then you reverted back to your previous position, deflecting to China and France…

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Yesterday my information was correct, to the best of anyone’s knowledge.

Why didn’t you mention it
yesterday if you knew about it then?

And no where in this article have I mentioned China or France.

And if we don’t stop this back and forth we are going to get a talking to, so I am done…

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Guest
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

You put your “chips” on COVID increasing…

Bad bet.

Next week might be different…

Then again maybe not ..

Place your chips wisely…

I’m actually not sure which way it will go this week…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

What really happened with the Hunter Biden story suppression by Twitter will be published on Twitter at 5pm ET!

🍿

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Still waiting Elon

Elon Musk

@elonmusk
·
1h
We’re double-checking some facts, so probably start live tweeting in about 40 mins.

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Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Here’s some of it:

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Did you get lost…
Elon has Matt Taibbi posting it.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Twitter’s dump proves several traitors at Twitter, along with 51 Intel Officers, Biden campaign,
& DNC, conspired to interfer in our election and install our Illegitimate Joe. What’s the usual punishment for treasonousebehavior? Also waiting for Tim Cook to explain how airdrop broke in China

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

” “THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISN’T ABSOLUTE”
Szabo’s letter contains chilling passages relaying Democratic lawmakers’ attitudes. They want “more” moderation, and as for the Bill of Rights, it’s “not absolute”

33.Within a day, head of Public Policy Lauren Culbertson receives a ghastly letter/report from Carl Szabo of the research firm NetChoice, which had already polled 12 members of congress – 9 Rs and 3 Democrats, from “the House Judiciary Committee to Rep. Judy Chu’s office.”

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

26. By this point “everyone knew this was fucked,” said one former employee, but the response was essentially to err on the side of… continuing to err.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Twitter acting by itself to suppress free speech is not a 1st amendment violation, but acting under orders from the government to suppress free speech, with no judicial review, is
Elon (and Squirrel agrees)

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

As do I!

Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

You two are abso-fucking-lutely hilarious! I’ve never seen such a well-done right-wing parody.

Unless you’re serious. You aren’t serious are you? Because that would be just crazy.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

So Tim, we understand, you’re not a 1st Amendment believer

Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

I’m a huge fan of the 1st Amendment and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights, even if some are frequently mis-interpreted. But this isn’t even remotely a 1st Amendment issue.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Censoring political opposition isn’t free speech violation? Hmmm…

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

People mocking your behavior isn’t censorship. Free speech doesn’t mean that people won’t say your statements are wrong, stupid, or funny. And, even if I were to delete every comment that was conservative, that isn’t a First Amendment issue. I’m a private business owner and can choose the kind of speech I host. Only if the government were to stop you from speaking is it a First Amendment issue.

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Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The Twitter issue is government officials directing a private enterprise to censor, determined a violation of the 1st amendment in similar cases by courts earlier. Let’s see all the evidence then break up abusive tech monopolies

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Musk’s exposure of the tweets show that James Baker and the DCC did exactly that. Including weekly meetings.
Zuckerberg was also handled by an unknown agent, according to his own statement.
When all the tweets are revealed, one GOP person said” it will make Watergate look like jaywalking”
None of it has been denied, KJP called it “a distraction”
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

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Hunter'sHardDrive
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Hunter'sHardDrive
1 year ago

Bullshit

grey fox
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1 year ago

“ Trump expresses support for Capitol rioters as he continues to embrace extremist groups”

Says country going Communist and he will get to the bottom of things…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

While reviewing Gadde’s emails, I saw a familiar name – my own. Dorsey sent her a copy of my Substack article blasting the incident

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Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago

Blah blah blah. These PRs don’t even generate relevant comments. Sure it’s something new to post, but no one seems to care.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

Former Employees React to Elon Musk’s ‘Twitter Files’ as Snoozefest.

What followed after was a series of tweeted snippets detailing what the public has known—and what Twitter executives themselves have detailed over the past two years—about the company’s deliberation surrounding the New York Post’s publication of files from Hunter Biden shortly before the 2020 election.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-twitter-files-1234640842/amp/

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Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Part 2 coming tomorrow…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Hunter Biden’s past employer, law firm Boies Schiller Flexner, received $10 million in forgiven pandemic loans from the federal government — while donating nearly $1 million to Democratic candidates, an independent investigation has found.

Of 300 top law firms investigated by transparency nonprofit Open the Books, Boies took the single-biggest loan, $10.14 million, from the Paycheck Protection Program, established by the Trump administration in 2020 to help mom-and-pop businesses survive the pandemic. The loan was forgiven in 2021.

Meanwhile, the firm — headed by longtime Joe Biden donor David Boies — billed $480 million to clients in 2020 and 2021, and equity partners each earned $4.5 million.

Boies partners and employees donated nearly $1 million in federal campaign cash during the 2020 and 2022 election cycles, including $213,966 to Biden’s presidential campaign.

First son Hunter Biden became “of counsel” at the Boies firm in 2010, earning $216,000 annually for a “no-show” job that did not require him to keep regular office hours
NYPost

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

In case you haven’t noticed,
@HillaryClinton
has turned off the replies to all her tweets as of tonight

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Huge money laundering scheme, just like Ukraine… we’re all getting played by actors. I pray for the safety of Elon, he is a brave man 🙏

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

The reason these people insist Taibbi’s story is trivial is they will not and cannot recognize any scandalous or improper behavior by leading Dem politicians. Ask them to name any. Any critique of leading Dems is automatically, to them, a fraud, a “nothingburger.” They’re Dems.
Glen Greenwald

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

I look forward to part 2 of “the series”. I love Elons style, he will drop the hammer soon.

On a different note, the balenciaga pedophile/child trafficking scandal and the fact that the Hollywood elites support it, is also concerning. If it had been Kanye west posting an antisemmetic tweet, they would react instantly, like adidas did. The fact that Kim kardashian waited almost 2 weeks to acknowledge the ad, really shows how deep these pedophiles run in the Hollywood circle, as well in the elite circles. 20,000 missing migrant children due to Biden’s open border is concerning. These sickos kill the children after they rape them, and then extract adrenochrome which they use to retain a youthful appearance.

Kym Kemp
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

I’m trying to decide if you really believe that crap or if you are seeing if I read the comments…

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

If you haven’t figured it out yet, he is a big conspiracy fan.

Entertaining but not to be taken seriously.

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Well, the last sentence, I admit, was a stretch. However I do stand by the rest of what I said, and it is all verifiable. Lord knows what the pedophiles are doing to the children.
All I know is that we the the tax payers are funding one of the largest child trafficking rings in history, and the open borders are facilitating it.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Nope. Everything you said was a stretch …
Like you said everything is verifiable…..

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Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Everything is verifiable- except the Jeffrey Epstein guest log 😂

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Thanks for the clarification, last sentence would indeed be an “explosive revelation” if not satirical

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

Somebody needs an intervention….

“ Kanye Tweets Swastika, Elon Musk Suspends His Twitter Account
After posting an image of a swastika intertwined with a Star of David, Kanye West was banned from the social media platform”

Rolling Stone~

Maybe Trump can invite him back to Mar-a-Largo and straighten him out.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

“I will be getting a lawyer. I will be suing the Democratic National Committee, no matter what. Whether I win or lose, I am going to stand up for the rights of every American, not a so-called celebrity, I’m not a celebrity anymore. I’m hardly recognizable anymore because my career has been destroyed by these very people. And I will sue and I’m hoping other people will sue. And if it turns out there are a lot of us on this list where the DNC targeted us, and I will quote the immortal words of Joseph Wells when he attacked Joe McCarthy for the enemy’s list he had, at long last sir, have you no shame? President Biden, all of your Stasi little operatives in the DNC who have targeted American citizens, have you, Mr. President, have all of you at last, no shame?”

James Woods

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

Even Obama laughs about senile Biden

Obama said. “We all know some folks in our lives who we don’t wish them ill will. They say crazy stuff, we’re like, well, you know, Uncle Joe, you know what happened to him. You know. It’s okay. They’re part of the family. But you don’t give them serious responsibilities.”

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

You don’t make them POTUS, either!
You sit them at the kiddie table where they gladly entertain the children, unless they sniff them.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Obama can laugh, but he picked Joey for VP.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

Orange County moves to ‘medium’ levels of COVID-19 infections.

As Southern California continues to see a rise in COVID-19 cases, Orange County has now moved into “medium” levels of COVID-19 infections on Friday.

https://ktla.com/news/orange-county-moves-to-medium-levels-of-covid-19-infections/amp/

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Which calls into question the CDC data. It was rising then in a week went down by 1,436 cases.
Both these counties are heavily populated so if this trend continues the scale could tip back the other way.
It looks like it’s going to take a couple of weeks of data to really see what’s going on..

L.A County population – 9.83 million

Orange County – 3.168 million

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December 02, 2022

CHD Attorneys File Federal Lawsuit to Stop California’s AB 2098 Intended to Punish Doctors Who Stray From the Approved COVID-19 Narrative

The suit alleges that the new law violates physicians’ First Amendment and free speech rights by prohibiting them from sharing information with their patients if it is inconsistent with what the law refers to as “contemporary scientific consensus” and the “standard of care.”
“The notion that the State of California can limit the information patients can receive from their doctors about deeply personal and important matters is constitutionally intolerable,” said plaintiffs’ attorney Rick Jaffe. “If the pandemic has taught us anything, it has taught us that there is no international scientific consensus on most of the important scientific questions about the pandemic. Different countries have taken different approaches to lockdowns and mandates, and the U.S. has done surprisingly poorly among industrialized countries.”

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With @ElonMusk releasing proof of the DNC forcing Twitter to suppress damaging information relevant to an election, the term “election denier” just became a badge of honor. The DNC’s worst nightmare is going to unfold leading up to the 2024 election: Rich people with deep pockets who love this country have the tools to counter the influence of the MSM and a deeper war chest than the DNC. The “culture war” has just escalated, “bigly”.

Imma need more popcorn…

@ElonMusk is playing 5 dimensional chess and will turn Twitter into a behemoth worth a lot of money as the most influential social media platform in the run up to the next election and most likely, elections in other countries. If Twitter goes public again, buy, buy, buy.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if @ElonMusk turns TWTR public so he can take TSLA private.

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I didn’t vote for it..

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Covid has disappeared in Africa and only 11% got vaccinated. 🤷

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Whatever happens to community transmission, masks were always on the menu, whether people continued to wear them voluntarily or not. It doesn’t matter how many shots are on the market, how many therapeutics have been made available, or even how ineffective mandates have proved to be. The face mask has become a marker of political identity, a religious talisman remaining sacred in the most left-wing enclaves of the country. Local health officials steeped in leftism won’t give up on face masks — because they can’t.

continued……..

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Within a year of the pandemic’s inception, public masking became no different than the type of passive activism embedded in gender pronoun bios: pointless in reality, but central to the user’s identity. But while a refusal to list one’s obvious pronouns might spoil a promotion or sever relationships with colleagues, refusal to muzzle could cost thousands of dollars in government fines.
Like pronoun bios or pink genitalia hats, face coverings became the latest and most aggressive form of ritual symbolism adopted by activists who were too concerned about broadcasting their supposed virtue to care about masks’ utility. Even as the rest of the country moves on from the Faucian Covid regime that exploited public anxiety to lock people at home, California health officials aren’t ready for a post-pandemic future.
Los Angeles inaugurated the forever pandemic last year when local health officials began to reinstate mandates even after the introduction of therapeutics. It makes sense then that L.A. remains ground zero for routine Covid protocols with no end on the horizon.

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Sounds like indoctrination to me

HotCoffee
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Sounds like desperation to be included in an in crowd to me, and fear of retaliation if not included.

Tim
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Plagiarizing the Federalist is now a thing? Huh.

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You didn’t see the links in the article?
Plagiarizers don’t use links to the source.
Guess you couldn’t find any error in the article, so you went after me, lol
Lazy comment.

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You don’t seem to be aware of what plagiarism is. You copied verbatim from an essay published on the Federalist site without acknowledging the original source.

That you included the embedded links to other Federalist articles that the original author included doesn’t solve the problem that you didn’t cite exactly where you copied the text from. None of those links lead to the original article.

It leaves the impression that you wrote the material yourself, something that was pretty obviously not true.

Hence, it’s plagiarism.

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Boohoo
Linking directly to the Federalist may cause Ms Kemp issues with the Google censors.
She has asked not to use direct links, in such cases.
That you’re not capable of finding the article at the site is not my problem.
Yet clearly you did find it, or you wouldn’t have stated where it was from.
See how that works.

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Not citing your sources could cause copyright infringement issues for Kym should the Federalist author choose to pursue it. This is ostensibly a business where clicks drive revenue and allowing plagiarism in the comments could arguably be a legal issue.

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Hot Coffee. You can just say the piece is from the Federalist.

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Hmm, the article is from October 2020, before the bajillionth booster shots. Still holds true in 2022, and the facts are only 11% of their population got vaccinated, the rest of the article is an opinion

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Conclusion…

Down is really up.

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This from Oregon…

Multnomah County and hospital officials are urging people to immediately take steps to stem the tide of respiratory virus infections that are causing “historical” levels of pressure on the local health care system, including by voluntarily wearing facial coverings through year’s end.
At issue is a confluence of factors several years in the making, including a general shortage of hospital staff and Oregonians’ weakened protections from influenza and RSV due to two years of isolation because of COVID-19. As a result, the tri-county area has seen the highest pediatric hospitalization numbers for RSV during the five years the state has tracked those numbers, even as the flu season is ratcheting up fast. On top of that, COVID-19 hospitalizations have climbed far more than was previously expected, further straining the health care system.

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The health care system became drained when essential nurses found out they were no longer considered essential as covid was declared to be over. They were turned on by the Hospitals and the people they helped to survive.

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Federal lawyers recently argued in a Texas courtroom — and apparently with straight faces — that the government’s war on ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic was a figment of our collective imagination. What a load of BS. From the very beginning of the pandemic Fauci made sure to block wide use of IVM.
At issue is a lawsuit brought by three doctors against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. The doctors maintain that the FDA wrongfully interfered with their ability to treat their patients with claims that IVM was useless to stop or cure COVID. And they were correct. Medical freedom was intentionally killed.
The FDA is being sued by Dr. Paul Marik of Virginia, Dr. Mary Bowden of Texas, and Dr. Robert Apter of Arizona. The three plaintiffs claim the FDA illegally prohibited them from prescribing the drug to their patients. This was true for both patients seen in doctors’ offices and in hospitals.
Yet during a hearing earlier this month, the Biden administration’s lawyers maintained the agency’s rejection of IVM was simply a “recommendation.” Probably a few hundred thousand Americans have died unnecessarily because of how the federal government actually blocked easy and early use of IVM by physicians.

https://thebluestateconservative.com/2022/12/01/the-big-government-lie-about-ivermectin-finally-revealed/

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OMG!! IVERMECTIN CURES CANCER!!

Scream it from the rooftops!!

Don’t believe me:

Go to: https://www.nih.gov/

Go to search:

Type in: ivermectin cancer

To all of the deniers, Prepare to have your mind blown!!!

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35726131/ published 6/21/2022

Authors’ conclusions: For outpatients, there is currently low- to high-certainty evidence that ivermectin has no beneficial effect for people with COVID-19.

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You can choose to ignore the CDPH figures or get your necessary shots. If you decide to play games with Covid-19, chances are you might be a looser. Covid-19 can kill you or a member of your unvaccinated family. Please get your vaccine shots!

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You might be surprised if the current levels of RSV and Influenza we’re posted alongside the current COVID levels…

Maybe if they did, you would realize that at this point in time, COVID is the least of our worries, as far as respiratory viruses are concerned…

There is no approved vaccine for RSV, maybe they should have focused on rectifying that, instead of uselessly reformulating the covid vaccine twice…???

Influenza is the virus the Biden Administration should have focused their efforts on, as far as a fall vaccine campaign…

That might have done some good…

The Bozo Biden Beaucoup Billion Bivalent Booster Boondoggle Bust…???

That made little difference, if any at all, except to further enrich some already rich pharmaceutical fat cats…

They put all of their (our)chips on bad bets, a promised COVID wave that never even materialized, along with an untested booster that 87.3% of all Americans wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole…

If a person was to only have chosen, or was to still choose just one vaccination, right now, the influenza vaccine would probably
have been or would be a better choice than the covid vaccine.

Flu infection rates are almost certainly much higher right now than COVID infection rates, but nobody is keeping track of Influenza or RSV infection rates, like they are for COVID, even though, like I said, right now, COVID is the least of our worries.

And just like I predicted, the Biden Administration, AKA Fauci, is talking about China needing to be administered our overbought, untested, unwanted, surplus vaccines…

Somehow he is dubiously claiming that they are superior to China’s COVID vaccines…

What a crock…

That’s funny, three of theirs works the same as three of ours against the most severe outcomes…

Q) How can you tell if Fauci is lying…???

A) Everytime his lips start moving…

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“Fauci said lockdowns are only justifiable as a temporary measure to serve a larger public health goal that will make society safer when it reopens.”

In other words …

“It’s ok when we do it”…

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“Gavin Newsom’s reparations committee will recommend handing out $223,200 per person to all descendants of slaves in California for ‘housing discrimination’ at a cost of $559BN – in nation’s biggest restitution effort ever”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11491263/amp/California-reparations-committee-recommend-handing-223-200-descendant-slaves.html

This will equate to 2x’s the annual budget for California! Our tax dollars hard at work.

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What they fail to realize is that we are all slaves/descendants of slaves… humans are the only species that has to pay to live in the world in which we were born. We are all owned by the elites and we are their slaves

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You really don’t have a clue, do you?

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Is that your best counter- argument? Pretty weak sauce 👎🏻

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Then please explain how all our lives today are equivalent to being a slave on a cotton plantation in the 18th-19th centuries.
“Lou! Lou! Get out here and pick me a bale of cotton!”
“Just a minute, Massa. I gotta finish posting on the internet!”

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My daddy was white and he and his brothers picked plenty of cotton in N. Carolina, before coming to Ca.
Then he worked at several restaurants at Fishermans Wharf and married a Mexican Coffee plantation owner,
Blacks weren’t the only cotton pickers.
And don’t forget the tobacco leaf pickers.
Or coffee bean pickers.

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Non sequitur.
I was addressing the absurd and frankly offensive “opinion” that we all live like slaves today.

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The only thing we seem to be slaves to is our cell phones and the internet..

grey fox
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And were they forced to pick it? Any of those people ever get put on the auction block?
Discriminated against for the color of their skin?

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Were they told whom to marry, when they could have kids and prevented from learning to read if they so desired?
Picking cotton does not a slave make.

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Will women get reparations?
They couldn’t buy property.
We’re told who to marry.
Couldn’t vote.
And some were beaten, and used as slaves.

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We are getting sidetracked here. The original debate was are we slaves now. I was referring to your family.

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“I was to your family.”
How so?
Careful now, I’m a mutt of mixed heritage.
Question, with a DNA test, can I subtract what my Native genes are owed by my white genes?

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Changed it, didn’t you.

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This family..
“ My daddy was white and he and his brothers picked plenty of cotton in N. Carolina, before coming to Ca.”

grey fox
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Yes yes the famous I have Cherokee ancestry.
The go to tribe to be related to.

And a DNA test will reveal you have ancestors going back to Africa.

Like Penguin and I said, this is all a sidetrack.

Are we slaves now?

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Well, since we all go back to Africa, each person is only responsible for their own actions, not those of ancestors they never knew.

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Maybe you would like to work on that when you are not posting here.

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You wouldn’t know I’m posting here if you weren’t here, would you.

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Brilliant deduction. I am just not sure how what I posted relates to it.

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Does it have something to do with the fact that you always seem to be here posting?

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Hmm, so do you.

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No. But knock yourself out.

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Have you mentioned that to GF?
He’s here more than I am.

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Just because you posted something doesn’t mean you control the thread.
Live with it.

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Huh?

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Some girls are being raped at age 10 by their father’s (treating them like property) and denied lifesaving abortions in their home state. Not a historic thing. Recent events.

When will women get equal pay?

I am so sick of Newsome I could explode.

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I sure didn’t.
And therefor I’m not getting equal social security payments either.

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Yes, women have been treated like that forever.

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Actually, yes, women were told who to marry. What do you think Romeo and Juliet was all about? Like forever women have been considered property of first their fathers then their husbands. And, if unfortunate (or fortunate depending) to survive their spouses, control of their lives would be handed (or landed) to their oldest male child. Why do you think the Elizabeth I frustrated every attempt by her court to marry her off? Her control over her own life ended if she married. You heard of the Magna Carta? One of its provisions was that a widow could not be compelled to marry against her will. Of course that was to protect the family from losing control of any money she might have a right to but still it was an advance for women however limited. In the US there were finally some laws allowing married women to own property in some States in the mid 1800s. Previously women were not recognized as even have the right to sue when their property was taken improperly.

And there’s a long history of women being denied education, even basic learning the alphabet or characters. Why should education be wasted on women? You think that is an idea that died generations ago? I can remember a career day in junior high in California for a series of lectures by various professionals that students could to sign up to hear if they were interested. I signed up for one by a park ranger and one by a physicist. I was denied access to both- the first because the “park service didn’t hire women”- not strictly true but they only hired women in desperation if no men would apply- and out of the one by the physicist because there were also “no women physicists”- also not struictly true. I ended up in one lecture for psychiatry, which was permitted for females apparently, but could find no other one of interest. Home Economist would have been okay but sheesh… It took a very determined and fortunate woman to overcome this attitude.
Women’s colleges have a similar history to “historically” black colleges for the same reason- they were not permitted to enroll elsewhere.

Black people were enfranchised almost 50 years before women got to vote. Frankly women owe much to the black civil rights movements which allowed them to develop rights too. In the hierarchical thinking of the powerful, if other races were allowed rights, then even women might be considered as at least as important. Sort of.

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Ever hear of debtors prisons?
Mankind has been cruel, period.

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I’m not sure what happens on the coffee plantation.

grey fox
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Well if she was the owner I would say she was definitely not a slave.

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But I think as a woman deprived by government for a lot longer than black Americans of basic civil rights, I ought to be exempt from having to pay reparations. I should at least get a tax break if not my own reparations.

grey fox
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True that. But this is just a Task Force thing, not a done deal.
Contact your local law makers and let them know your opinion.
I have no control over the situation.

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Only ones that need to pay reparations are registered Democrats. Democrats bought and owned slaves, were members of the KKK, enacted Jim Crow laws, fought the Civil Rights Act, created LBJ’s Great Society, (thus destroying the Black Family structure, forcing blacks and other POC to live in slums and tenements in major metropolises across the nation) and propagated Margaret Sanger’s Eugenics edicts, placing abortion clinics in poor areas and pushing them to kill their unborn children. Democrats have been trying to destroy Americans lives for close to two centuries now. Nothing more vile and evil than a Democrat Politician.

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The plantation is in Mexico.

grey fox
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So your mother owns a coffee planation in Mexico that has slaves?

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I never said she was my mother, because she wasn’t.
My mother and father were never married.
It’s an interesting story, but don’t worry, I won’t tell it.
I have no Idea if it had slaves or not.
But I drink fair trade coffee.
Mostly Thanksgiving coffee.
Jewish owned by the way and the owners brother was a close friend of mine for many years before he passed on to the hereafter.
So take the Kanye comment you made to me earlier today and shove it.

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This comment….

https://kymkemp.com/2022/12/02/cdph-releases-latest-covid-statistics-for-california/#comment-1584420
There are individuals I don’t like, but I’m not anti any group of people based on any racial criteria.

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What I said had nothing to do with Kanye’s anti-Semitic remarks.

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Who rounded them up and put them on the auction block? Now we’re getting somewhere… the descendants of the black kings who sold their people into slavery are the ones who owe reparations..

grey fox
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1 year ago
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The question is, are we slaves now….

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Interesting, your theory is that the white slavers who went to Africa and created a market for slaves are not responsible at all? And the white people in America who bought slaves here and created a market that encouraged white slavers to go to Africa aren’t responsible? Only black people are responsible for the suffering of millions of slaves? Absolving white people of all responsibility is a neat trick, but looks a bit racist.

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But wait! There were black slave owners as well! Should we trace back to their descendants and make their offspring pay?

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1 year ago
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Let’s try to stick to the simple rebuttal I made instead of stretching into a wider discussion. I believe I was referring to your absolving white people of all responsibility for slavery…not claiming that black people were never guilty of slavery.

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I am definitely not trying to absolve the white people who owned slaves of their responsibilities. However, it appears that you are putting ALL white people in the same box. If we must do this, then let’s go after the descendants of the people who actually participated in owning slaves, regardless of their skin color. That would be equity. To make non participants- in this case- pay for something they or their family had no part in- IMO – is reverse racism .

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Just the same as with the student loan borrowers, we don’t owe them anything…

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I agree 💯

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1 year ago
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If those descendants live in California they will pay if this goes thru..Which I very much doubt will happen..

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Do some research, Kym. That slave market in Africa was thriving long before Europeans settled in the Americas. White people hardly “created a market”. White slavers merely participated in a long established market created by African tribes capturing and enslaving members of weaker tribes and selling them to traders from all over the world for centuries. Let the Arabs, the Persians, the Greeks, and Romans pay reparations.

Vote Democrats out of office. Their only concern with POC is manifested at election time. After the elections, Democrats leave a few coins on the nightstand and then their voters don’t see them again for another 4 years. This boondoggle is just another carrot tossed to blacks in preparation for a Newsom run for the White House. If black Americans around the US see black Californians getting free money, they’re gonna want their free shit, too, and will vote for any vile, evil, self-serving Democrat Politician they think will give it to them.

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So you think that white people did nothing wrong? You don’t think the plantations and communities of the south profited from slavery?

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1 year ago
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I didn’t say that and you know, it, Kym. But tell me… where are the plantations and communities of the south that profited from slavery located in California?

I’m a taxpayer and I vehemently disagree with my tax dollars being paid for this bullshit as the state of California continues to become a Democrat hellhole.

There is no rhyme or reason to this virtue signaling bill other than the taxpayers of California subsidizing Newsom’s imminent run for the White House.

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It not about slavery in California. It’s about discrimination against the Afro-American community in California..

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That discrimination was perpetrated by racist Democrats for decades. And Democrats have effectively held all power in California since 1970. Why are Democrats so vile, power hungry, racist and bigoted that they have held Black Americans down for 400 years? All Democrats must immediately turn all their assets over to the first black person they see. Either that or a special tax needs to be imposed on only registered Democrats to pay reparations for their heinous crimes.

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There is a big difference between “doing nothing wrong” and being the only race of people doing wrong.
Slavery was going on worldwide, and in some places it still is.
Is it wrong, yes, but why would only this generation of white Americans be held responsible for all the wrongs of the past?
Let’s say that it’s decided you should give up your home and business to POC, you know cause you’re white and a POC person decides it should be theirs. Or A Native American?
Where would you draw the line??
It’s a slight exaggeration, maybe, but the at the rate things are going.

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A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been estimated before.
In a new book, Robert Davis, professor of history at Ohio State University, developed a unique methodology to calculate the number of white Christians who were enslaved along Africa’s Barbary Coast, arriving at much higher slave population estimates than any previous studies had found.
Most other accounts of slavery along the Barbary coast didn’t try to estimate the number of slaves, or only looked at the number of slaves in particular cities, Davis said. Most previously estimated slave counts have thus tended to be in the thousands, or at most in the tens of thousands. Davis, by contrast, has calculated that between 1 million and 1.25 million European Christians were captured and forced to work in North Africa from the 16th to 18th centuries.

https://news.osu.edu/when-europeans-were-slaves–research-suggests-white-slavery-was-much-more-common-than-previously-believed/

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According to the Huffington Post: “In the early 1860s, photographs of children dubbed “white” slaves were circulated as part of a campaign to raise money for public schools for emancipated slaves. The group was first featured in an engraving of a photograph entitled “Emancipated Slaves, White and Colored” in an issue of Harper’s Weekly in January 1864. According to an article titled “Portraits of Slave Children,” the images were meant to evoke sympathy from wealthy Northerners for potential donations.”

Read more: The Forgotten History of White Slaves in America https://unknownnews.net/the-forgotten-history-of-white-slaves-in-america/

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If we are going to teach history, let’s teach all of it.
Not just the part that helps Politicians pander for votes.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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This whole thing got sidetracked into the slave trade.
The Task Force thing is about discrimination towards Afro-Americans in California. Which happened.

“Gavin Newsom’s reparations committee will recommend handing out $223,200 per person to all descendants of slaves in California for ‘housing discrimination’ at a cost of $559BN – in nation’s biggest restitution effort ever”
Other types of discrimination was being factored in.
Also, other types of restitution besides cash is being discussed.

The descendants of slaves was added because of a legal issue.

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1 year ago
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So, are you opposed to the whole history being exposed?
If so why?

HotCoffee
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

And of course he will need a few more government agencies filled with nepotism and political paybacks, to help steward the monies.

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1 year ago
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As far as I know…no one is asking you to give up your business or home to anyone.

I’m not sure on where I stand with reparations, I haven’t looked at the value of it deeply but…trying to absolve your culture of responsibility for problems caused by your culture is painful to watch for anyone with any logic and understanding of the facts.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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I think the major problem is, no amount of money is going to make the past “disappear.” Most African-Americans would probably prefer to have just been given a level playing field from the start. But that is now impossible.
A serious effort to eliminate the endemic racism in America would be nice, but I cannot see that happening given the fractious present state of American “society.”

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1 year ago
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It is only possible to do better if a populous is principled. And principles can be damned inconvenient, interfering with personal gain. We really are no more “fractious” than humans ever are but we certainly don’t have to enshrined it as a virtue. The person most interested in damaging others is the person who starts out with “I have to speak the Truth.” No, 99% of the time no one has to speak the truth. They just want to be heard. And truth has little to do with it.

We need to honor principle, the very idea of principle, more than rejoucing in its destruction.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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That would be wonderful.
My argument for contemporary society being more fractious is the result of our instant and ubiquitous communications via the media and the internet. We have not had that to the extent we do now. I don’t think it is helping.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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There is precedent.

Beach taken from Black couple given back to family 100 years later: ‘We are returning stolen land’ Nearly 100 years after a Black couple was racially harassed and stripped of their California oceanfront resort, Los Angeles County officials on Wednesday gave the land back to their descendants..

What I don’t understand is why Mexican-Americans are not included.
They suffered the same kind of discrimination in California..
So the study is a kind of discrimination in itself..

If it is a political play, they are leaving out a very important voting block.

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1 year ago
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The best “reparation” for all would be racial justice. It would not cost that much, just white supremacists’ minds blowing up.

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Since people can’t define race with consensus nor justice with consensus, how do think “racial justice” will work out? It would not explode the minds of white supremacists alone. Brain splatter from liberals would also coat the walls. None of us trully want justice- we want revenge. On others. And like the judge said about pornography, others can’t be defined but we know it when we see it.

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Racial justice to me means everyone is treated the same under the law. It is a pretty simple concept drawn from the fact that Lady Justice is blindfolded. And I specifically said “minds” instead of “heads” to avoid just the type of mess you describe. We have enough to deal with as it is.
As for wanting “revenge,” I would say victims want it for the guilty party, not just some rando. For too many years, simply grabbing an African-American off the street and convicting them was good enough.
And I, for one, would like justice.

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WWII is also a precedent for reparations- from WWI. Reconstruction is a precedent for the destruction of the Civil War and how did that go? We “stole” from Mexico but they “stole” first. The most bitter person I ever heard was angry over “their family’s land” being “stolen” by the government when the property was taken by eminent domain for the Redwood Parks expansion. They said they would now be rich if the government hadn’t stolen it. What reparations are they due for the exact same complaint as the Los Angeles park reparations? Are you going to sit in judgement on every aspect of human behavior?

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I suggest Soros pay off the Holocaust victims families he ripped off, instead of paying to interfere in our elections.
I suggest Tim Cook take some of the 79 billion he’s made from iPhones made in China and rebuild schools

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Much higher taxes (=give up their business or home) needed to come up with $569B. Doesn’t appear out of thin air for Cali, only feds can swap inflation for deficit funding

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Many Homes and businesses have mortgages, the Fed keeps raising interest rates, and many will lose those homes and businesses.
We keep spending money that doesn’t exist, and the rates keep rising as we have to pay more for the monies borrowed..
You may not be in that situation, but many people are.

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1 year ago
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Unless they went with an ARM, the mortgage rate is locked-in for the duration.

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Blaming “culture” is one thing. Blaming race as a substitute for culture is another.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

“The vast majority of those who were transported in the transatlantic slave trade were people from Central and West Africa that had been sold by other West Africans to Western European slave traders,[2][3][4] while others had been captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids;[5] Europeans gathered and imprisoned the enslaved at forts on the African coast and then brought them to the Americas.[6][7] Except for the Portuguese, European slave traders generally did not participate in the raids because life expectancy for Europeans in sub-Saharan Africa was less than one year during the period of the slave trade”

“The major Atlantic slave-trading nations, in order of trade volume, were Portugal, Britain, Spain, France, the Netherlands, and Denmark. Several had established outposts on the African coast where they purchased slaves from local African leaders”

I don’t see the United States, let alone California, listed as a major Atlantic slave trading nation…

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You’re in good company. Thomas Jefferson also absolved the United States of any sin in slavery. He blamed the British.

Without getting into whether reparations make sense…let’s just look at responsibility. If someone stole your property and grew rich on the theft and their children were rich now while yours were poor, wouldn’t you think the children had some responsibility for restoring what was taken? Labor is a form of property and the labor of the slaves was stolen from them and the riches that grew from that money benefited the United States. Beyond slavery, multiple polices were enacted across the United States that took power and wealth from black citizens and transferred that to white citizens. Home ownership was systematically made more difficult. Education from predominately black schools gets less money than schools in predominately white districts, etc.

“The median family wealth for white people is $171,000, compared with just $17,600 for black people. It is worse on the margins. According to the Economic Policy Institute, 19 percent of black households have zero or negative net worth. Just 9 percent of white families are that poor.” “Armed white people stormed prosperous majority-black Wilmington, N.C., in 1898 to murder dozens of black people, force 2,000 others off their property and overthrow the city government. In the Red Summer of 1919, at least 240 black people were murdered across the country. And in 1921, in one of the bloodiest racial attacks in United States history, Greenwood, a prosperous black neighborhood in Tulsa, Okla., was burned and looted. It is estimated that as many as 300 black people were murdered and 10,000 were rendered homeless. Thirty-five square blocks were destroyed. No one was ever convicted in any of these acts of racist violence.” https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/racial-wealth-gap.html

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California became a state on September 9, 1850.

Slavery was abolished about 15 years later…

If reparations are to be made…

It should have very little to nothing to do with Newsom, and any decision that he might make, nor California.

That is nonsense…

Making Californians pay is barking up the wrong tree.

It’s not for Newsom to do.

He is just clearly pandering for votes, likely trying to position himself to become president some day…

Shit, I might vote for the scumbag, and try and convince my wife and kids to as well, if I thought we might glean a cool $million out of the arrangement, even if it would be an undignified, hard sell…

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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You seem to be missing the point that the reparations are meant to address generations of unequal treatment in housing, education, healthcare, etc.

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1 year ago
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Democrats perpetrated those heinous acts you described. Democrats can pay for it.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Right on…The whole issue got seriously sidetracked.

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Yeah, don’t try and yoke me with that…

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1 year ago
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Then claw back the misspent monies given to scamsters and billionaires in stimulus money and repurpose the reset money and build better schools and housing for black communities, repurpose federal land to do it.
Make that reparation And stop playing the race card. Just do it because it’s the right thing to do.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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Just add in healthcare and don’t “repurpose federal land” to just make new ghettos in the middle of nowhere. Might make more sense to make more housing “affordable” for all in cities/employment centers.
Otherwise, I fully support getting money back from scammers. Sending them to prison would be nice, as well.

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There’s plenty of Fed land that’s not in the middle of nowhere. And plenty of developers that want to build sustainable communities, if only they could get past the red tape, environmental impact reports, Nimby’s etc. That alone takes years. Just look at all it took to rebuild Coffey Park in Santa Rosa.
And Pelosi was in power when the African Americans were pushed out of the Fillmore to make way for gentrification. It was a thriving community in SF.
Those I know moved to the East Bay.

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Wouldn’t Latinos, Asians, or whites living in Compton or Oakland have suffered equally?

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1 year ago
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That’s the press release, Gavin has 2 years to include add-ons. It’s a work in progress.

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The “fabrications and distortions” he found in the Times’ coverage of major stories from Hitler’s Germany and Stalin’s Russia to Vietnam and the Iraq War “were never the product of simple error,” Rindsberg contends. 
“Rather, they were the byproduct of a particular kind of system, a truth-producing machine” constructed to twist facts into a pattern of the Times’ own choosing, he says. 
Rindsberg argues that Times reporters have followed the same playbook since the 1920s.

NYPost

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Prior to Biden taking Office, it has often been stated that the average American couldn’t afford a $500.00 emergency.

Did you notice the food bank lines in the past 2 years? Here in “wealthy” Ca.?
How many Whites do you suppose are on welfare in Humboldt? Can’t afford to have children? Rent a house?
They all, including POC will be put deeper in debt as Gavin taxes everyone to pay for his political scheme.

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1 year ago
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And, no, I don’t think that someone that did not commit a crime, should be punished in any way, for a crime committed by someone else, family or not…

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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Really, So if I give my kids the car I stole from you, you’re not going to try and get it back because then my kids will be punished by being poorer? I don’t think you really mean that.

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If they take the car back that was stolen, there’s a point. If they take the house that the great grandkids worked thirty years to pay off on the speculation that if great grand pappy hadn’t have stolen that car, they would have never been able to hold a job and pay off a house, that’s a stretch that will work it’s way back to prehistory.

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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I agree.

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Look, you have a point that I understand to a degree, but my point is that the child should not have to pay for the sins of the father… That being said…

I don’t really follow your analogy.

That’s definitely not what I meant.

Either way…

Newsom definitely does not have the wisdom of Solomon, nor does he have the authority to divide the spoils of life, among those that would lay illegitimate claim to it.

The plan is fraught with problems.

Story has it, some written, my family goes back to Jonestown, Virginia, and some were purported slave owners, and I go back even farther in America through a Cherokee line that would be difficult if not impossible to trace, and that I’m sure that will be ridiculed as the infamous “Cherokee bloodline”.

That being said, I sport some keloid scarring of my own, my pedigree is Heinz 57, and could very well include, let’s say, trafficked individuals from Africa.

Therefore, I conclude, it wouldn’t be out the question that I might owe myself some money…😁

I am not fooled for a minute that this is anything more than a gruesome political stunt intended to curry favor with the sympathetic vote, at a cost for Californians to “bear”, and in the event that it bears fruit, that might whet the Nationwide appetite of a certain faction in a way that might sway them into voting for Newsom should he eventually run for President.

Californians will all be footing the bill for Newsoms Presidential Campaign strategy well in advance, becoming political donors whether they are willing or not, and regardless if they can afford it or not.

But rather than discuss this, I’d prefer to hear your opinion on the new way covid hospitalizations are being misrepresented…

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One big- really big- problem with the whole idea of personal or race based reparations is the same that exists with the idea of imposing restorative justice in general as a principle under law. It simply doesn’t work to allow reconciliation. In fact it disincentivises it. Restorative justice only works if the victim and the criminal individually agree they are satisfied with it. If either the victim or the criminal feel it is a bad deal, the criminal then feels victimized and/or the victim feels revictimized. Hate is doubled.

Not to mention monetizing victimhood makes remaining a victim a sensible idea. Reparations is a stupid idea from all sides except for making Progressives and other believers in humanity feel they are doing something to fix history. History is unfixable. A crime can not be made to no longer have happened. Heck, it is impossible to define a crime absolutely as a crime in even the simplest cases. In a case where the damage is deep and generational, it is a never ending and constant shift in demands.

The only real “solution” is to pardon the criminal if there are acceptable and verifiable guarantees it will never happen again. That does not erase the crime nor burden the innocent with the crimes of their fathers. It allows everyone to move on from the constant cycle of impossible objectives. Yes, the ancestors of the abusers get away with some of the fruits of their crimes but not all the fruits. Yes, the victims do not get all the fruits taken from them back because those fruits are too far removed to be accessible but they get some fruit back and get to stop wasting so much effort on what is never going to be satisfactory anyway. Most important is that an agreement has been forged that those currently alive can rely.

Well, humans have a better idea of vengence than justice so good luck with the idea of principle anyway. I suppose what has always happened will keep on going on. New victims will be made and old resentment will define some lives until they die off. Congratulations on opting for the status quo of sullen hate.

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Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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Your perpetual misreading of other people’s comments is rather stunning.

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1 year ago
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Could you get more petty, Ms. “I own the Site” Kemp? Or actually read before insulting? Oh wait! I see what happened. You think you own the conversation as well as the site. Well go ahead, tell me what I misread since you claim that.

BTW it sounds like I’m angry but I’m not. No longer am I even disappointed. Taking my comments as a person insult is just what you do.

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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“Congratulations on opting for the status quo of sullen hate.”

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1 year ago
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Sheesh that was not “misreading” anything. It was the point.

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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Sometimes you are so sharp and on point (and I don’t just mean when you are on the side I agree with) but don’t you find it the teeniest bit ironic that you jab at me out of no where that I am opting “for the status quo of sullen hate” because I offer an opinion about not shirking the reality that black people in this country in general have had a harder road to walk these last 400 years than white people as a whole have had–not generally considered a controversial opinion–then whine that I’m insulting you when I say you perpetually misread other’s comments?

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Do you not find it ironical that, when someone started a thread about reparations for slavery , which by the way was not what the Newsom bill was directly about, you responded with a comment without looking at “whether reparations make sense…let’s just look at responsibility” then proceed to list a whole string of facts about white people having more income, more wealth then cite instances of race riots where while people murdered black people to contradict someone who was attempting to deflect responsibility at least in part away from blaming white people, it is you who have misunderstood what you yourself are saying? That white people, not people in general, not human beings as a species, not a war like people nor people with a more developed technology but white people only, are responsible. Why would assgning responsibility for inequality or past trauma have the least importance of not to assign guilt and inherited blood debt white people owe every other race? Or in brief reparations. Parse language all you want, that is what was said. White people guilty and owe other races.
I explained why I thought reparations are a futility at best and exacerbate the hate at worse, you attack me for -I believe the phrase was- “perpetually misreading ” your comments. I think I will paraphrase Christ on the cross and say “Forgive her, Father. She knows not what she says.” For in all the desire to make white people acknowledge their guilt, attacking white creates a system of logic where race is the reason for every difference in status. That, if white is guilty of terror , that other races are in an inferior position of being terrorized in society because they are not white. You are acting as patron, not as qual. I can’t believe you think that. Yet it is the logical conclusion of your words.
I, on the other hand, try to assign such ugliness to uneven competition. That, when any people have an advantage in numbers, resources or technology, they leverage it to take, most frequently with violence, what they desire from those whose resistance is weaker. Thus it is not race that is the villain but the human nature that puts family first. For example, when the population and knowledge advantage was the native population, they were the ones doing the killing even before the arrival of Europeans. Certainly in the early days, they had the advantage with European immigrants, who lived is fear of attack. When those they killed were replaced with ever more of the same, it became too difficult to do. India, Somalia, Botswana, etc are not full of happy European or Mexican immigrants and are not peaceful even without them. China is not full of immigrants at all. It’s our nature and the result of biology. We will find cause be it religion, sports teams or race to fight. And, if we do not wish to be dominated in turn, we best try to deal with the real issue. Not whiteness but humanity. Attacking whiteness, because it is the most obvious to those who like easy answers, at this location and time, is worse than futile.

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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Not attacking whiteness. I agree with you that humanity behaves as it does across color lines. But when people who are the beneficiaries of the powerful culture–in this case a white one— try to pretend that white people as a whole got no advantage from the exploitation and black people as a whole were not disadvantaged by the exploitation, I find that worth responding to. It has nothing to do with–“sullen hate” of white people.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Do you two need a time out?

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1 year ago
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The slavers did wrong.

The famous “siamese twins” were slave owners. They lived in North Carolina apparently.

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1 year ago
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So only the south profited from slavery? The north also had slaves. But if you want to go with only the south had slaves, ok.
The north also profited off the slave labor in the south. How so, easily googled, the north was industrial, the south was agricultural. The north bought cotton that used slave labor. The industries of the north used that commodity from the south to make products that they then shipped around the world. Im pretty sure the industrial profit was more then the agricultural profit.
Its kind of like how the dispensaries make way more money the farmers.
You should read/listen to this from
Teaching Tolerance, a project of the Southern Poverty Law Center
https://www.learningforjustice.org/podcasts/teaching-hard-history/american-slavery/slavery-and-the-northern-economy

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No, I’m not saying that. And I don’t know how you misread what I said to come to that wild misstatement.

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1 year ago
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Because you only called out the south for making a profit off of slavery. When the whole world has. The south seems to get all the blame for slavery and thats just not true. Your statement pushes that narrative by only calling out the south. But it seems that you cant see that.
What do you mean by my wild misstatement?

Kym Kemp
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If I say that apples are a delicious fruit, it in no way precludes strawberries and mangos from also being thought by me to be delicious. Similarly, if I state that Georgia profited by slavery, that doesn’t mean that I don’t also believe that Great Britain profited from slavery. If you some how make that extrapolation…you are wildly misstating my position.

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1 year ago
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Then make yourself speak more precisely. Don’t constantly blame others for misinterpreting.

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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Read more precisely? You don’t just do it with me.

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1 year ago
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OK. This has reached the Guest-Grey Fox level of sniping and I’m done.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Hey! But your right…

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1 year ago
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I guess no one looks at what’s happening in Africa today.
How many would want to go back there to live?
Somalia sound good? Libya?

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Jesus…Really?
Are you saying they got rescued?

You and Kayne would make a team.
“ Kanye West just said 400 years of slavery was a choice”

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1 year ago
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You put your words in my mouth.
Shame on you.

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My family wasn’t here during slavery so I presume I’ll be exempt from slavery reparations, paid only by the descendants of those that profited. I didn’t get any benefit

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1 year ago
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Same here, I’m first generation born in America, my family had nothing to do with the slaves

grey fox
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1 year ago
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And if you read the article it is really not about slavery.

“A focus of the California task force has been ‘housing discrimination’ – it has been estimated that it would cost around $569billion to compensate the 2.5 million Black Californians for setbacks between 1933 and 1977, according to the New York Times.”

“The task force has also identified four other causes for reparations: Mass incarceration, unjust property seizures, devaluation of Black businesses and health care.”

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Ask the Royals in England to divest and cash out the City of London. Ditto for the French lines. I don’t think the cash has to be fully paid by the USA…except for Hillary and that earthquake ripoff fund.

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For all intents and purposes, California has been under Democratic control since 1970. Any reparations paid to black Californians who can prove they are descendants of slaves must be paid by only the taxes collected from those who are registered democrats in California , or registered democrats in California must immediately turn over any and all assets to the black descendants of slaves in California.

Democrats were slave owners anyway. Handle your business liberals, and use your money for a change. Keep your hands out of other people’s pockets.

But you did say there were a few other things that are under consideration for reparations since 1933, right?

Hmm, which racist actions were mandated since then? Japanese Americans interred in concentration camps on us soil? (A piece of shit socialist President* named Roosevelt did that.)

Jim Crow laws? Democrat governors, senators, legislators and other officials did that.

Fought tooth and nail to stop the Civil Rights act from Passing? Yes, Racist, bigoted vermin from the Democratic Party did that.

Created the “Great Society” rounding up American Blacks and forcing them into slums in inner cities and destroying the Black American Family and emasculating the Black American Male? That would be, again, Democrats.

Pushed the eugenic philosophy of Margaret Sanger on Black Americans? Again, there’s the Democrat evil showing its ugly head again. Eugenics pushed by Democrats have resulted in the murder of 63M children in the US. Hitler couldn’t hold a candle to Liberals in the US in sheer numbers of people killed.

Nope. Conservatives need not pay a dime for reparations. Republicans fought to free them in the Civil War and have fought for over a century to raise their status as equals to whites in all cases.

You racist, socialist communist liberals can pay for your evils.

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Once freed, most of the slaves remained with their masters, as they were born into it and knew no other way….

We are also born into slavery, the central bank owns us and controls us. A handful of corporations controls our media, government, and military. If you use money, you are a slave.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Every one of those statements in that meme is wrong..
And are conspiracy theory facts at it’s finest.

In the TV Guide story, former Simpsons supervising director David Silverman reveals the inspiration for the Burns’ look. It’s based on Barry Diller, who was running Fox Broadcasting when The Simpsons debuted on the network in 1989.

So conspiracy theory away..

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1 year ago
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It will take a photo to convince me. Oh, they gave one for the Rothschild. Look at that! Spittin image!

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1 year ago
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Any photo of a white, balding man can be touted to be the spitting image of Mr. Burns. Google “looks like Mr. Burns” and see. Some may have had a slight bit of humor if original but gleefully slathering on a mixed bag of bigotry by inappropriate use is just ugly.

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1 year ago
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Bull pucky. Are you a liberal trying to make people who oppose reparations look silly?

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1 year ago
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“Of course, Facebook memes like these don’t need a foundation in truth. They just need people gullible, ignorant and hateful enough to share them.”
https://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/04/07/busting-some-rothschild-family-facebook-memes/

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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500 trillion what? Certainly not US$
He is worth about $5 billion US according to those who look at these things. There is a laughably large difference between 500 trillion and 5 billion.

But it must be true! I saw it on the internet as a cartoon.

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Sure, msm, which is owned by them, will tell you otherwise. Who looks more like mr Burns? Rothschild or Diller? Cmon man

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1 year ago
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One meme per article is the rule in case you didn’t know.

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

That’s not a meme, it’s a photo of Barry Diller for reference to you claim. You’re welcome 😉

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Groening has confirmed that the richest man in Springfield was based principally on the one-time world’s richest man, John D Rockefeller.

Google JD Rockerfeller image..

Anyway that whole meme is garbage and you know it.

Borderline trolling come to mind….

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Interesting that Silverman and Groening each confirm different people that the Mr Burns character was based on. I did Google JD Rockefeller, and sorry but Jacob Rothschild is the absolute spittin image. Sometimes we need to see what’s right in front of us

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Sigh..Groening based the character on JD..
Silverman based the image on Diller and a praying mantis. Artistic license.
The point is, the meme is BS and simply trolling.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Penguinn

so after reparations is this discussion over, or will POC still be victims?

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1 year ago
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My comments have had nothing to do with reparations. Why are you asking me this question?

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Because I feel you could have an opinion on the matter that might be interesting given that you were quick to wade into a debate on slavery and what is or is not. Feel free to answer the question or not. Sorry to put you on the spot.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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The question is way above my pay grade.
But I do believe that old wounds heal slowly.
Or is it that old heels wound slowly?
I have a mild cognitive impairment.
It comes with age.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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I see the finger print of the Illuminati somewhere in all of this..

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1 year ago
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As usual a non answer speaks volumes. So does the quick pivot to victimhood.

Carry on

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1 year ago
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You must be loads of fun at a party.
BTW – I did answer your question. I cannot help it if your misplaced sense of superiority requires that you not accept it.

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There will be a long line of others wanting their 1/4 million $.
Why live in the here and now when you can cash in on the past of others?
Will there be a large influx of POC to Ca.?
Is Gavin that desperate for Dem voters?

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So it’ll qualify for the quarter million dollars by jumping across the CA border and seeing up a tent? Do recipients need to prove they’re descendant of American slave or does coming from Haiti last year qualify? Is their a minimum blood quantum requirement or is 1/32nd good enough?
Damn Dems did that!

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1 year ago
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They haven’t worked out the details yet, that may take until 2024, Just before elections I presume.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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You certainly have an active imagination.

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1 year ago
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He won by over 2,000,000 votes.
I don’t think he is that desperate for additional voters.

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1 year ago
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The 2024 election is for POTUS not governor.
I suspect he’ll run no matter what he said. Biden’s toast.
2,000,000 votes in a presidential election is a drop in the bucket, but the thought of reparations is a magnet to the POC in the whole Country.
All he has to do is create the thought, if he tried to do it, lawsuits will flood in from every state.

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As far as Gavin needing votes, he clearly doesn’t if he stays in CA. This seems more like a baited hook for a national election.

HotCoffee
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1 year ago
Reply to  Griffon

That’s my impression.

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1 year ago
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After they are given all the tax payer’s money and rename everything will the hate go away? No.

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1 year ago
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Look up “Passover.” That should give you a clue how long a sense of wrongs can be held.
The question is do humans have hard wired specific prejudices or is the need for prejudice a factor of other biology drives? For example is there an innate drive to form groups out of biological similarities or out of proximity only?

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Birds of a feather, flock together

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1 year ago
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My family lineage on both sides lost everything in the Bolshevik Revolution and I feel I am also entitled to reparations from the UN.

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1 year ago
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Probably a long shot, but the line is forming. May as well get in line?

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1 year ago
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Women are still treated like indentured house servants. When is Newsome going to make up for that? When we are “transwomen”? I hate Newsome. Just hate the guy. [edit]

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As Nelson Mandela put it “Resentment is like drinking poison and hoping it kills your enemies.”
“Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.” Paracelsus
And other aphorisms about hating…

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1 year ago
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California was never a “slave state”. But it would be curious to know if the reparations trickle down to Chinese, Japanese, and Hispanics as well.

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1 year ago
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Yes exactly! It’s racist to only give the reparations to blacks

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Ultimately, the JACL—and the Japanese American community as a whole—came together over a collective obligation to uphold American ideals, Tateishi writes. And finally, in 1988—a decade after the campaign began and over 40 years after the internment camps closed—President Ronald Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act, which offered a formal apology and paid $20,000 to each survivor.

California Lawmakers Apologize For U.S. Internment Of Japanese Americans
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/03/24/820181127/the-unlikely-story-behind-japanese-americans-campaign-for-reparations

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1 year ago
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Mexican-Americans suffered the same discrimination as the Blacks during the time period the Task force is looking into.

Brown v. Board of Education was the landmark Supreme Court case that ended racial segregation in schools in 1954. But it wasn’t the first to take on the issue. Eight years earlier, in 1946, a group of Mexican American families in California won the very first federal court case ruling that segregation of public schools was unconstitutional.

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1 year ago

New York

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is recommending indoor mask-wearing in five New York counties in its latest COVID-19 data tracker report.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Concerning wastewater testing for Covid.
Sacramento has two systems.
As does San Francisco.

System #1. Wastewater and storm water flow in same pipe. Old Sacramento

System #2. Wastewater only flows in this pipe.
New Sacramento

So if you test at the wastewater
only outflow pipe, storm water will not affect it.

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1 year ago
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I am going to “go out on a limb” here, as far a a prediction or whatever on whether or not COVID rates are going to increase or keep decreasing, now that I’ve had a good night’s sleep…

(My clairvoyance is kicking in…🔮😉)

We likely gonna see a continued lowering and lowering maybe we are gonna see some blips at Winter and stuff, but hopefully it gets down…

You haven’t really committed to whether you think rates will increase or keep decreasing, but it seems like you are leaning towards them changing direction from decreasing, towards increasing again…

You know….

Doubling down…

Which way will it go from here, grey fox…

Do tell…

The prediction that I have provided, has already been made…

Even though I’m not “The expert”…

Surely you must agree…???

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Crickets…

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You say that like everyone is mysteriously obligated to be interested in your ramblings.

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1 year ago
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My ramblings…???

Make no assumptions…

The Real Brian
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1 year ago
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I’m surprised the crickets even give a shit.

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1 year ago
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As Fauci flip-flops yet again, another Fauci adherent has a Booster meltdown…

Hilarious.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Oh good, you noticed that too…

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Your hero disagrees with you.

NOW what will you do…???

Stand down…???

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The CDC can go on a deep dive with a short tank.

I recommend the public health officials there look into the effectiveness of masks for breathing underwater. . Wollensky stated at one point she got her “science” to issue orders to us from watching CNN.
She was so inept that she should have been fired.

Never fixed the VAERS reporting system.

Never fixed the patient hospitalization Covid-19 hospital report by NEVER identifying the testing laboratory or how many cycle thresholds were used to state that a patient “had Covid”.

Never worked with the FDA to identify an actually validated test for COVID-19.

Allowed a person who was given the genetic therapy shot to not be considered vaccinated till after 14 days post shot which skewed cause of death figures.

Ah heck just read the book, The Real Anthony Fauci. There are pages on how they used the CDC to game the system to have this “plandemic” (Jan Psaki actually said that word during a White House press conference.

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I didn’t suggest anyone be sent back.
I asked a fair question, who would want to go back, so don’t twist it.

HotCoffee
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1 year ago
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This was a reply to gf, who makes good pretzels,.
Somehow it got displaced in the thread.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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A glitch in the Matrix. But I see you arrived safely.

There has been times when only half the person arrives. That can be messy.

Though I am wondering about the asterisk comment.

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It’s a post from the once loved by the left Glenn Greenwald.

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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald

I mean I’ve encountered people who harbor a bizarrely unhealthy reverence for Hillary Clinton before, but I don’t think I’ve ever quite seen the Norman-Bates-level of adoration that drove Twitter’s ex-Head of Censorship.
——————————————————–
I’m glad you asked. Remember when he was on Democracy Now and other left leaning programs?
He’s posting about the Musk release.
Click on the link and you can follow him.

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That is because The New York Times has become, for all intents and purposes, an unregistered lobbying firm for far left politicians
Elon
Hey, it’s been that way since Stalin’s purge through the Fauci Flu biowarfare

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I agree with you grey Fox, but then you deleted your great comment

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1 year ago
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Was already mentioned by Common Sense….

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Like Captain Renault in the gambling casino in “Casablanca,” congressmen are “shocked, shocked” by all the fraud spawned by the trillions of dollars in COVID handouts they approved.
The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis issued a report Thursday blaming fintech firms for the pilfering of Paycheck Protection Program loans that began in 2020. But the real fraud is the illusion that members of Congress give a damn about plundering American taxpayers.
PPP was enacted in March 2020 and eventually provided $800 billion in loans to more than 11 million businesses. Congress designed the program to carpet-bomb the nation with federal tax dollars.
The Small Business Administration, which administered the plan, effectively told people, “Apply and sign and tell us that you’re really entitled to the money,” said Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz. He testified PPP was an invitation to fraudsters because there weren’t “even minimal checks to make sure that the money was getting to the right people at the right time.”

Government investigators estimate up to $100 billion in PPP loans was fraudulent. The feds gave 342 people who said their name was “N/A” PPP loans. Dozens of New York City and New York state employees were arrested this week for their role in a multimillion-dollar PPP fraud scheme.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/01/congress-is-shocked-shocked-by-the-covid-fraud-it-created/

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As Adams put it –

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Trump Demands America Rip Up the Constitution, Make Him President.

. On Saturday, the former president called for the termination of the Constitution in order to overturn the 2020 election results. In Trump’s latest rant on Truth Social, he referred to himself wrongly as the “rightful winner” and called for his installation as leader of the free world.

“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social.

Rolling Stone~

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Scientist who worked at Wuhan lab says COVID was man-made virus

The scientist, Andrew Huff, is the former vice president of the controversial EcoHealth Alliance (headed by Fauci friend/founder Peter Daszak who was paid by NIH)

https://t.co/z3X9Dni7vs

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Undoubtedly US bureaucrats have known from the outset but covered up Fauci Flu origins because the US was complicit with bumbling Chinese lab in allowing release of a bioweapon from the Wuhan lab that’s killed seven million worldwide. Talk about reparations!

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🫣🤭

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That’s what I’ve been trying to say all along…

Anyone remember EVALI in America…???

The mysterious deadly respiratory ailment that vanished about as quickly as it arrived, with little fanfare…

It predated the Wuhan incident, by far…

Don’t rule out that COVID-19 emerged in the US before anywhere else…

The Wuhan escape, was a false flag event, carefully choreographed by Fauci and his ilk, to shift blame from the US, and to implicate China.

It created plausible deniability.

It’s glaringly apparent, that Fauci allows only two possible origins, both in China, and neither of them even acknowledging the slightest possibility, or even the notion that COVID originated in the good ole US of A.

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He found a publisher. I wonder how many passed on it. His book:
THE TRUTH ABOUT WUHAN: HOW I UNCOVERED THE BIGGEST LIE IN HISTORY.
Rarely does a title have so many red flags. Not surprising, that title, given the reputation of Skyhorse Publishing

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“Once a government commits to the principle of silencing opposition, it has only one way to go, and that’s down the path of increasingly repressive measures until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens” – Harry Truman

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1 year ago
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Truman has something there. Perhaps you should pay attention!
“When you look at these things like abortion, it’s popular,” Fuentes added. “And you can thank the Jewish media for that. Abortion is popular, sodomy is popular, being gay is popular, being a feminist is popular, sex out of wedlock is popular, contraceptives—it’s all popular at all. That’s not to say it’s good. That’s not to say I like that. Popular means that people support it, which they do. It sucks, and it is what it is, but that’s why we need a dictatorship. That’s unironically why we need to get rid of all that. We need to take control of the media or take control of the government and force the people to believe what we believe or force them to play by our rules and reshape the society.”

Nick Fuentes – Darling of the Right and Trump’s guest for Thanksgiving Dinner

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Never heard of Fuentes until he became a tool to sling mud at Trump in the popular press. Why does it seem likely that the far left will be attacking any Conservatives for the next 40 years with a comparison to Trump? It is like they can’t actually articulate what they find objectionable but a comparison to Trump, Reagan or Hitler will do as a substitute. So they keep him on life support.

Hmm… Maxine Waters has praised Bankman-Fried for his wiillingnes to be candid and testify before Congress when his idea of being candid was to say he did nothing wrong and cancelled his testimony appointment the next day, after he ranxferred millions go Democratic Party (imagine ifTrump had been inolved), Biden thinks Congress passed student loan forgiveness bill and “US President Joe Biden “got so excited, he can’t even talk” after the midterm elections, says Sky News host James Morrow.“Nor can he remember whether the current war du jour is in Iraq or Ukraine,” Mr Morrow of the New Zealand press…” And can you image if one of Trump’s kids came even thought about the dubious dealings of Hunter Biden and conservatives tried to shield him by saying he’s a recovering drug addict? Pot and kettles, pots and kettles.

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1 year ago
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You didn’t know a lot of things that the right has been trying with.

Good thing you are here.

You didn’t know Agenda 21, anti-vax, Alex Jones, Robert Kennedy, trolling, Nick Fuentes, Milo Y, and hate in general.

Boy, it almost looks as you were quite quite ignorant before joining RHBB.

How quaint that you blame all the real entities of the right as a problem from the left only because you didn’t know about them.

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I knew about trolling and I knew about hate. I knew about Robert Kennedy and anti vaxxers. As you well knew as you acknowledged that I was relentless about it while you gave up. What is ignorant is making attacks personal, hateful and misinformed. Apparently a quality not restricted to the people you lump into the stereotyped right. Physician, heal thyself.

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Elon Musk Says His Assassination Risk is “Quite Significant”: “Frankly the risk of something bad happening to me or literally being shot is quite significant. I am definitely not going to be doing any open-air car parades.”
Source: https://t.co/thJ94gap7b https://t.co/P4vQ2gTQZz

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Watching little obedient dweebs at NBC, CNN and the Daily Beast claim *Matt Taibbi* is a servant to power is the most brazen case of projection I’ve ever seen.

Taibbi spent his career and still does exposing Wall St and CIA’s lies (Russiagate). They are their loyal mouthpieces.
Glenn Greenwald

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1 year ago

“Every law is illegal. Every government is illegal”

-Bob Marley

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.@Twitter’s and Big Tech’s censoring the Hunter Laptop to help rig an election is bad enough. What about the FBI’s excuse for hiding the Laptop since at least 2019? And still DOJ does nothing despite overwhelming evidence of criminality.
Tom Fitton
Judicial Watch

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“This will be awesome” tweets Musk, followed by former President and current candidate advocating for “the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution”.

Awesome work there, Elon, Donny “GOP Civil War” signaling the crazies. Looking like some kinda trend: when you took over Twitter, racial and transgender slurs were tripled on your platform. Pandora’s Box, Elon’s new play thing, what will he do.

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1 year ago
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Could you please cite the exact text of Trump saying that? I can’t find it anywhere..

grey fox
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1 year ago
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I posted it earlier..

“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social.
Rolling Stone~

https://kymkemp.com/2022/12/02/cdph-releases-latest-covid-statistics-for-california/#comment-1584539

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Thanks .. also I gotta call bs on the tripling of hate speech on twitter which was claimed by commenter “sigh”

Here is a screen shot that shows the opposite

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I found it! Trumps words were taken out of context. Here’s what he really said and implied

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PenguinnD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

I do not see how that changes what he was saying.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Penguinn

Actually just confirmed what an idiot Trump is.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Yeah, the anti-black stuff has only doubled.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Penguinn

Not true! But I do appreciate your humor

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1 year ago
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“In the two weeks after Musk completed his Twitter takeover, anti-Black tweets jumped more than 200% while homophobic and antisemitic posts increased by 58% and 61%, respectively.”
“Twitter has seen an “unprecedented” rise in hate speech since Elon Musk took over the social network, according to the Center for Countering Digital Hate, the Anti-Defamation League, and other groups that study online platforms.”
“Anti-Black tweets jumped more than 200% from 1,282 times a day before Musk’s takeover to 3,876 times a day now, while slurs against gay men rose more than 58% from 2,506 to 3,964 times a day.”
But you have your little graph from Elon, which is humorous, too.

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Sorry Lou, but is so. Time to out for the dots again, as they’re being plotted, b4 it’s too late. The dots of the last Administration’s rhetoric were there to see, but some (including GOP lawmakers running for their lives from the crazies) didn’t see it in time. Oops. Now he’s saying, on coattails of Twitter owner’s tweet, that Constitution rules, regs and articles can be terminated to get him back into the White House, the crazies out there just drooling.

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Bidenflation is the highest in 50 years, personal savings and labor participation lowest in 50 years, and debt as % of GDP like never before seen risking trillion dollar annual interest expense from Biden’s rising interest rates. Biden Regime’s policies are poised to trigger a disastrous Biden Recession beginning 2023.
Illegitimate Joe did that!

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1 year ago
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You know, you are actually becoming a parody of yourself.

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1 year ago
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Has McCarthy (@GOPLeader) pledged to release the 1/6 vids and emails hidden by Pelosi Congress? And to questioning Pelosi under oath about her 1/6 security failures?
T Fitton

grey fox
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1 year ago

LOL, ,
BIGGEST COVER-UP IN HISTORY “I worked with the Wuhan lab – I tried to warn them & I KNOW Covid was a lab leak..”

That is the headline from The Sun, a tabloid paper in England..You know one of those papers you see in supermarkets at checkout.. “I was abducted by aliens” etc.

The dude wrote a book about it. Due out mid Dec. He goes to the Sun to announce it?

But the conspiracy people are eating it up..

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PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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Don’t forget the New York Post!

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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His book will be devoured by the conspiracy crowd – as it was designed to be.
“Follow the money.”

grey fox
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1 year ago

Mental health & conspiracy theories – is there a connection?

https://www.tikvahlake.com/blog/mental-health-conspiracy-theories-is-there-a-connection/

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“Some people seem to get consumed by particular conspiracy theories. There also seems to be an increasing number of people who subscribe to several conspiracy theories, even sometimes all conspiracy theories – and then any new ones that arise as well.

This can be to such an extent that now mental health experts are talking about some people having a conspiracy theory addiction.”

From the above article..

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PenguinnD
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1 year ago
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“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds”.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

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grey fox…

We likely gonna see a continued lowering and lowering maybe we are gonna see some blips at Winter and stuff, but hopefully it gets down…

That’s the word on the street…

Probably just another whacko conspiracy theory by some far right Qanon fanatic with mental illness…

Right…???

So much for COVID-19 rates increasing…

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“You say that like everyone is mysteriously obligated to be interested in your ramblings.”

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All of these so-called “conspiracy theories” turned out to be legit
https://www.readersdigest.com.au/true-stories-lifestyle/12-crazy-conspiracy-theories-actually-turned-out-be-true

15 Conspiracies That Turned Out to Be True
https://www.buzzworthy.com/15-conspiracies-that-turned-out-to-be-true/

Here are examples of Conspiracy Theories that Turned Out to be True! Follow along to learn more about these theories.

https://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/conspiracy-theories/

grey fox
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1 year ago
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I could give you a hundred that are not true.

I will give you one a day for a 100 days.

#1 The Wild Conspiracy Theory That the Titanic Never Sank
Believers say one gigantic boat was swapped for another for insurance money

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Sounds like a job for “Dr. Ashish Jhar”…

(As Fauci would say it…)

🤔🧐,

Q) When is a Doctor not a Doctor…???

A) When it’s “A. Jha”…

😁

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1 year ago

Elon Musk says Twitter bankruptcy is possible, but is that likely?

Now, however, under the chaotic leadership of Musk, the mercurial billionaire has reportedly told staff that bankruptcy could be nigh if Twitter does not start making more money

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/12/1136205315/musk-twitter-bankruptcy-how-likely

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Twitter has lost half of its top 100 advertisers since Elon Musk became CEO Half of Twitter’s top 100 advertisers appear to no longer be advertising on the website. A new report states that these 50 advertisers have spent almost $2 billion on Twitter ads since 2020.
Nov 25, 2022

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1 year ago
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Looks to me like Musk is hell bent on driving Twitter into the ground so he can declare bankruptcy and get out from under all that debt he saddled himself with.

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It looks like you and your hero Fauci are suddenly singing different tunes…

You should probably start flipping pages in your hymnal, until you two can reharmonize.

You seem to be on a page of your own…

Out of step…

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Seems NPR should be worrying about their own funding and advertisers.

Updated November 30, 2022 at 4:45 PM ET
NPR will need to cut at least $10 million from the current fiscal year ending next Sept. 30, the network’s chief executive, John Lansing, announced Wednesday, due to a sharp drop in revenue from sponsors.
Lansing told staffers in a memo that he intended to avoid layoffs, but would be forced to severely curtail hiring, amounting to what he described as “close to a total hiring freeze.” The network will also sharply cut back discretionary spending and non-essential travel. The $10 million cut constitutes approximately 3% of NPR’s current annual budget.
“As we did during the pandemic, we are prioritizing our staff and not anticipating layoffs at this time,” Lansing wrote. Yet he noted that he recognized the strain that a near-freeze on hiring would put on NPR’s current journalists and their non-newsroom colleagues.
“It means we won’t have the skills and support of the people who would have been in the roles that must remain vacant,” Lansing wrote. “For those working long and stressful hours, that is not good news. But it is a reality we can’t avoid if we are to save jobs.”
The 137 job vacancies at the network represent about 11% of its workforce.
Among the casualties: Lansing said he would slow down the search for a chief content officer, a new position that would be over the network’s news and programming leaders.

https://www.apr.org/business-education/business-education/2022-11-30/npr-to-impose-near-freeze-on-hiring-but-avoids-layoffs-as-budget-cuts-loom

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There are reports that approximately 4,400 contract employees out of 5,500 were laid off by Twitter. Some employees had no idea until they read about it on Twitter.
How many did you say were laid off at NPR?

Maybe if the Government cut back on buying $700 million stealth bombers they could help out.

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Covid hospitalizations rising post-Thanksgiving after an autumn lull..

Covid hospitalizations last week reached their highest level in three months, with more than 35,000 patients being treated, according to Washington Post data tracking. National hospitalizations had stagnated throughout fall but started rising in the days leading up to Thanksgiving. All but a few states reported per capita increases in the past week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/12/04/covid-hospitalizations-increasing-after-thanksgiving/

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What…???

Did you jump Fauci’s ship…???

Did you abandon the Fauci Bandwagon…???

Blazing a new trail of your own…???

What part of…

“…continued lowering and lowering maybe we are gonna see some blips…”

…is written in Greek or Hebrew?

(That’s coming straight out of Overlord Fauci’s mouth…)

How very unusual that you are contradicting him…

From Fauci’s tepid covid rate outlook remarks, rushing right out to get jabbed again, which he also suggests… doesn’t really seem to be justified, nor does it sound worthy of prioritizing…

In the days leading up to Thanksgiving…

Huh…!!!

Are you sure your wapo data is even current?

Somehow I doubt it…

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“You say that like everyone is mysteriously obligated to be interested in your ramblings.”

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1 year ago
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That sentiment would be a lot more convincing if you didn’t diligently respond to their every post

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1 year ago

No numbers can fully convey the state of the covid-19 pandemic in the United States, but several metrics taken together provide a clearer view of what is happening now and what may be coming soon.
The data in these charts is gathered by The Washington Post from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and state government sites (cases and deaths) and the Department of Health and Human Services (hospitalizations). Not all tracking sites use the same sources or report dates, so case and death numbers can differ.
WaPo~

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COVID is the least of our worries…

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/declaration-of-public-health-emergency-is-urgently-needed-for-rsv/

And flu is really a problem…

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Here is the latest WaPo data for the US

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CDC case data for Humboldt…

DOWN 23.85%

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CDC case data for Humboldt hospitalizations..

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The hospitalizations went up 57%…!!!???

From 5.16 to 8.1 per 100,000 people…

Up 2.94 per 100,000…!!!???

That’s an increase of 0.00294%, on top of 0.00516%

From 7 to 11, out of Humboldt’s 135,558…

How absolutely terrifying…!!!

Quick, run and hide…!!!

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That’s all wrong.

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That’s not case data or Humboldt hospitalizations data…

It’s new hospitalizations compared to current total of currently hospitalized.

It’s ridiculous.

You really shouldn’t be presenting that as an increase in weekly hospitalizations compared to the previous week.

That not what it is…

I know you will claim that you never made an assertion, but you are presenting misleading information…

Cases and deaths data is not structured the screwed up way that they are presenting the hospitalizations data.

I protest.

It’s disinformation.

There is no reason for it to be presented in this way other than to mislead the people.

I wonder when this format was established…???

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That hospitalizations data is complete bullshit, grey fox.

It will never show a decrease the way they are manipulating that data to compare new admissions to total still in the hospital In an alarmist, sensationalistic way.

Fuck that.

It can only be reduced to 0%, in the unlikely event that there are no hospitalizations.

Those percentages are not comparing only new admissions from one week to the next, up or down…

Whose fucking bright idea was it to do it all fucked up like that to make it look like new hospital admissions keep going up, up, up every fucking week unless there isn’t even one fucking hospitalization that whole week in the whole State…???

Fauci’s?

Walensky’s?

Jha’s?

Crooked Fuckers…!!!

What a crock of shit…!!!

Bunch of Scumbag Con Artists…!!!

Really trying to hype the delusion illusion.

If you didn’t already realize the completely unacceptable, manipulative way that hospitalization information is being combined and twisted, that’s one thing, there is no excuse not to realize it any longer…

If one is complicit, one is part of the problem.

Presented in this way, it’s misleading misinformation from WaPo.

At least.

Maybe you understand, maybe you don’t.

I had an inkling, but now I am sure…

I was going to call this out earlier, but I wasn’t sure.

The county data made it very clear.

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1 year ago

. “If someone can prove me wrong and show me my mistake in any thought or action, I shall gladly change. I seek the truth, which never harmed anyone: the harm is to persist in one’s own self-deception and ignorance.”

— Marcus Aurelius

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Alright, if you say so…

There is something that isn’t adding up, grey fox…

These “hospitalizations”, “new admissions”, statistics are bullshit.

As I suspected…

As you can see, I did the math, and the increase in “hospitalizations” was from 7 to 11 in all of Humboldt…

From today’s report, as of 11/30, there were 4 hospitalized in the previous week.

From last week’s report, as of 11/23,there were 2 hospitalizations in the previous week…

So we went from 2 last week to 4 hospitalizations this week…

That’s a 100% increase, not a 57% increase.

(4 down to 2 would only be a 50% decrease even though the difference is still 2)

They aren’t talking about new hospitalizations or new admissions for the latest week compared to the ones for just the previous week…. They are talking about new hospitalizations aka new admissions, compared to total people currently hospitalized with COVID in Humboldt.

Two totally different concepts.

Weekly hospitalizations reported on…

11/2 were 3
11/9 were 3
11/16 was 1
11/23 were 2
11/30 were 4

Tell me how what they are calling “hospitalizations” and or “new admissions” went from 7 to 11 from 11/23 to 11/30…???

“Hospitalized”, is went from 7 to 11…

Those people could have been hospitalized a month or more…

At least one of the folks hospitalized clear back on 11/2, and every one since would have had to be included in your 57% increase comparison…

They are counting the state “hospitalizations” the same way…

It’s bullshit.

On 11/16 there was 1 hospitalization, the next week 2, the next week 4…

If there was only one in the hospital left over from the weeks before, the weekly percentage increases would be 100% every week.

The weekly numbers of new admissions aren’t high enough to compare by percentage in Humboldt.

For the whole state they probably could, and shouldn’t be comparing them to total in the hospital in Humboldt or the State, or the entire Country.

It makes no sense.

And remember, an equal number increase as opposed to a decrease will always be twice as high of a percentage going up, as it will be coming down.

Advantage pro jabber…

Hospitalizations went up 0.00147538%.

From 0.00147538% to 0.00295076%

From 2 last week, to 4 this week.

That’s it.

Let’s not kid ourselves.

However many that are hospitalized at any given time is a completely different matter…

Apples and oranges.

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‘Died Suddenly’ Pushes Bogus Depopulation Theory.

What appear to be ordinary postmortem blood clots are held up in a viral online video as supposed evidence that there’s a depopulation plot underway using COVID-19 vaccination to kill people. There’s no evidence for this theory. The hourlong video also repeats numerous falsehoods that have previously been debunked.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/12/scicheck-died-suddenly-pushes-bogus-depopulation-theory/

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CDC, etc., pushes Bogus Hospitalizations data…!!!

CDHP, HCDPH and every other State Health department is doing the same thing…

They refer to a “new admissions”, AKA, “hospitalizations”, category, showing an increase by percentage and mislead people into thinking that they are comparing new “admissions”, AKA “hospitalizations” from one week to the next as if the percentage could go up or down…

BUT it can’t show a decrease ever the way they are manipulating the data. They are deceptively comparing “new admissions”, AKA “hospitalizations”, for a given week, to the total that have remained “hospitalized” (in the hospital) from total previous weeks, because that will only show increased “hospitalizations” AKA “new admissions”, and never decreased “hospitalizations”, AKA “new admissions”.

Even if there are zero “hospitalizations” or “new admissions”, in Humboldt for example, in a given week,a decrease can never be shown, a 0% change can be the lowest resulting comparison.

There is no other reason to do this except to deceive.

It will appear that hospitalizations are always on the rise, appearing to never be coming down… To make it look like getting a booster is necessary when hospitalizations might actually have been in a decline for an extended period.

Don’t be fooled.

They are attempting to dupe you.

I abhor that kind of shit…

Grrr…

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1 year ago
  • Comparing current COVID-19 data like positivity rate to prior waves in the pandemic is now “meaningless,” experts said. 
  • The widespread use of rapid at-home testing has skewed the data, the experts said.
  • Experts told Insider that hospitalization rates are a more relevant metric to watch.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, confirmed during a briefing on Tuesday that the CDC’s COVID-19 case counts are an “underestimate.”
“There are many people getting infected with mild to moderate symptoms who do home testing and do not report it,” said Fauci. 

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That they are telling you to focus on the hospitalization nonsense, and not the miniscule case rates should raise a red flag for you…

There is absolutely nothing relevant about some dubious, senseless, comparison they refer to inappropriately as a “hospitalization rate” that is derived by comparing new hospitalization admission numbers to the number of people that are already hospitalized.

What the fuck does that prove???

That doesn’t prove Jack shit, but will give a totally false image that hospitalizations are ALWAYS going up…!!!

Can’t you understand that…???

It’s totally misleading misinformation…

It’s disinformation.

It’s bullshit.

Use your critical thinking skills, if you’ve got any, and it’s very easy to see that these so called “experts” you say are suggesting you focus on only hospitalizations rates that they have massaged to only go up and never come down, so obviously have a bunch of cards up their sleeves, and they are just totally conning you.

Here’s your choice grey fox,

You can just enthusiastically keep lapping it up…

Or…

You can recognize the bullshit and call them out on it, like you do everyone else.

Or you can conspire with them, and help them spread it, and become that which you despise.

That you’ve suggested it’s appropriate to focus on their bullshit, so called, “hospitalization rates”, it seems clear that you’ve made your choice.

Experts my ass.

Fauci and his ilk are nothing but con men.

He’s sure done a number on some hapless folks…

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“You say that like everyone is mysteriously obligated to be interested in your ramblings.”

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And how about you direct some of that outrage to this. Was the first place I went to this morning.
You usually have so much to say about everything else.

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CATHOLIC DIOCESE, WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF COASTAL NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, PLANS TO FILE BANKRUPTCY DUE TO ‘OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF SEXUAL ABUSE LAWSUIT

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“You say that like everyone is mysteriously obligated to be interested in your ramblings.”
As you try to tell Guest what to read, you might consider how much Nooo’s response applies to you.
Personally, I can see what news RHBB posts and don’t need or want your directives.

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For heaven’s sake and mine…one time of this is enough.

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1 year ago
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Believe it or not I was getting ready to delete it. But you stepped in.

It’s just his previous comment to me was all about was all about “you” this “you” that.

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Pfizer and its partner BioNTech said on Monday they have submitted an application to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for emergency use authorization of their omicron-adapted COVID-19 vaccine booster for children aged 6 months through 4 years. https://t.co/xPIXrEDEFm

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Pfizer boss refuses to testify to EU Parliament COVID panel — again‘We have no further information to share,’ says Albert Bourla, who bailed out of an earlier appointment in October.

Pfizer Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla has once again declined to testify before the European Parliament’s special COVID committee.
That’s strike two. 
“Since the October COVID hearing, we have no further information to share with the Committee, so respectfully decline the invitation to again revisit these issues,” states the letter from Bourla dated December 2 and seen by POLITICO.

https://www.politico.eu/article/pfizer-coronavirus-albert-bourla-europea-union-refuses-testify/

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1 year ago

Hot Coffee here is conspiracy theory #2….

 Stew Peters video claiming that the Covid was caused by snake venom secretly injected into the water supply by the Catholic Church and government agencies.”

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1 year ago
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No one has ever posted that kind of nonsense here that I’ve seen.
Maybe drift back into reality, your example looks like desperation to deny reality and justify wrongly slandering people to me.

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1 year ago
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Sorry, this must have been a different Hot Coffee.

https://kymkemp.com/2022/12/02/cdph-releases-latest-covid-statistics-for-california/#comment-1584761

And notice my reply to this other Hot Coffee..

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I don’t see Stew Peters nonsense in my post. Maybe you can show it more specifically
100 days of BS doesn’t interest me.
Did someone burn your toast this morning?

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1 year ago
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Sighs…My toast was fine this morning thank you.

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Good! Let’s start over….
Good morning!

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If I’m not mistaken his initial promise was 1 a day for 1,000 days…🤷‍♂️

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Lucky me! 🙁

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The whole thing is just a silly exercise in deflection and apoligism for the harm caused by unaccountable government. Who cares if you can find a million absurd claims posted somewhere on the internet? How does that impact the reality of the ever growing litany of harme caused by government run amok and enabled by people like gf who attempt to shut down and belittle anyone who questions the pronouncements and plans of that government

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1 year ago

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) — Across California, COVID-19 cases are on the rise. Los Angeles County hospitals are on the brink, with a mask mandate looming. In San Francisco, hospitalizations have nearly doubled since October.

Gandhi said while hospitalizations are up, the number of COVID-19 patients in the ICU is down.
“Importantly, those who are vaccinated and boosted against COVID, we’re not seeing the severe disease,” said Gandhi, noting the greatest threat this holiday season is the flu, with just 50% of those eligible vaccinated against it.

https://abc7news.com/covid-19-cases-bay-area-tripledemic-california-flu-and-covid-holiday-season-shot/12526905/

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Quoting “Gandhi” now, eh…???

And you obviously have no problem spreading unscrupulous, bogus bullshit “hospitalizations have nearly doubled”, “hospitalizations are up” disinformation…

Gandhi may not realize that he is spreading bullshit.

He might not be the only one, but it’s been explained to you.

Had you considered that Gandhi may not understand what he is spreading, before you began re-spreading it as well…???

Does that matter?

It must pair well with early morning toast.

Data for patients in the ICU is also being presented in a misleading way, expressed as an increase or decrease in ICU bed availability, not ICU patients.

So a DECREASE in ICU patients is expressed as a percentage INCREASE in ICU bed availability.

Have you noticed that…???

Also very misleading.

The completely ridiculous, misleading way that “hospitalizations” information being formulated and then disseminated is just unacceptable.

You seem to be relishing in it, contrary to your stated pet peeve against disseminating misleading misinformation and disinformation…

So is your position, “Do as I say, not as I do” ?

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1 year ago
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“ Gandhi said while hospitalizations are up, the number of COVID-19 patients in the ICU is down”

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Keep from making your responses personal or you’ll be put on moderation. It’s possible to argue your position without constantly arguing that the other person is an ass. If you can’t, then this website isn’t the place for you.

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Thank you..

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I understand…

I will tone it down.

If you don’t mind me asking, what is your take on the CDC, etc., dubiously expressing “hospitalization rates”, “new hospitalizations”, and/or hospital “admission rates” as a percentage increase, formulated by dividing a geographic area’s new hospital admissions, by the number currently hospitalized there?

(city,county, state, country)

When did it change to this method, and why?

It doesn’t make sense.

Do you see how it can only remain stable, (in the unlikely event that there are zero new hospitalizations), or it will ONLY be a percentage INCREASE, if there are ANY new hospitalizations?

And do you see that, formulated in this way, that a result of a corresponding percentage DECREASE of any kind, in “new hospitalizations”, is impossible…???

What I find misleading and disinformative about it is, even dishonest, is that this new format inaccurately portrays “new hospitalizations” as always going up, up, up, no matter what.

Maybe that explains why it changed?

That is false information.

It simply can’t be true.

Only in the event of zero “new hospitalizations”, will the rate appear stable and unchanged, but even then it won’t ever even be shown as a percentage decrease, which illustrates how inappropriate and deceptive the methodology is.

It took me a bit of unraveling, to even confirm this is what is happening, even though I sensed something had changed in the way the hospitalizations data was being newly presented.

Before, hospitalizations, and there increase or decrease, was expressed as a rate in a per hundred thousand manner.

I’m hoping to share an understanding about it, so that when some government agency, news agency, or commenter, claims that “hospitalizations”, “new hospitalizations” or “admission rates” have increased by such and such a percentage, that we can all be very clear on EXACTLY what that means but more importantly, what it DOESN’T mean, that people might be misled to believe, by such a claims altered, deceitful presentation.

I hope you will consider all of this, and understand my motives, for clarifying the truth, in just exactly what these CrYpTiC Government press releases really mean…

I imagine there was some fine print involved, when the methodology for variously described, “hospitalizations”, “hospitalization rates, and/or “new admissions”, changed, but I must have missed it, or it passed very quickly…

Were you aware of the change?
What do you think about it.

I presented this to grey fox, as he was using these hospitalization rate increases to suggest covid infection rates were increasing, notwithstanding current CDC confirmed infection rate decreases, hoping to clear up exactly what the “hospitalization rate increases” actually indicated, and didn’t indicate.

They clearly no longer have any linear, corresponding connection to infection rates, whatsoever.

I was merely hoping he would acknowledge that, but it just led to more use of references to “rising” “doubling”,”hospitalizations”, without a clear definition of what exactly that even meant.

The fact that infection rates were trending down and deaths were plummeting, gave me pause to how and why hospitalizations rates could be possibly forever increasing.

Now it not making sense, makes sense, because it’s actually nonsense.

As an aside, ICU increases or decreases are counter intuitive, and based on bed availability, unlike hospitalizations.

So, consequently, an increase in ICU patients is shown as a % DECREASE, and a reduction in ICU patients is shown as an % INCREASE. 🤪😜

It’s all being presented in a very cloak and dagger way.

🤔🧐Of course, it’s not like I haven’t been accused of having a hard time getting my head wrapped around something that isn’t true…🤷‍♂️😉😁

Thanks for considering this information, I hope it’s helpful and informative, and that I’m not bringing up something that I’m simply the last to understand.

It might not seem like I’m trying to help, but I am trying.

I’m aware my delivery leaves much to be desired.
🤷‍♂️

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1 year ago
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I had a hard time getting my head wrapped around 300,000 goofs. Which also wasn’t true. See how this works?

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And yet…

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1 year ago

This week’s national ensemble predicts that the number of new daily confirmed COVID-19 hospital admissions will likely increase, with 1,600 to 11,000 new confirmed COVID-19 hospital admissions likely reported on December 23, 2022.
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This is what that means…

All it means is that, from the current level of around 4,000 per day, maybe hospitalizations will decrease to about 1,600 per day, or maybe they will increase to about 11,000 per day…

grey fox,

your statement, or whoever wrote it, is being intentionally, very misleading…

T is written as if hospitalizations are predicted to only go up, and that is untrue.

By not including the accompanying graph for proper illustration of the text, in order to present a more understandable picture, your statement becomes all the more misleading.

I believe the fact that your statement actually means that hospitalizations are just as likely to drop about 2,400, as the are to increase 7,000, means your message is being improperly conveyed…

They are anticipating a slight increase, looks like about 5%, MAYBE.

MAYBE.

It’s a forecast…

Nobody can be sure what will happen in the next 15 days.

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“Flu vaccination coverage among all people ≥6 months during the 2021–22 season was 51.4%, 0.7 percentage points lower than coverage in the 2020–21 season (52.1%”

Is this caused by anti-vaccine rhetoric? Are thousands dying needlessly because of vaccine misinformation?

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Influenza vaccines are generally of very low efficacy and account for 75% of the payouts from the vaccine injury compensation fund, meaning that the harm they verifiable cause costs us millions of dollars in compensation and lost productivity annually.

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When real life is “satirical”:

U.S. — This weekend, Twitter CEO Elon Musk directed the release of documents and emails showing collusion between the media and the DNC to suppress a major news story. The DNC and media have responded to the DNC/media collusion story by colluding to suppress the story about their collusion.

“It’s important to understand this story of how we colluded with the DNC to suppress important information about Presidential candidate corruption is a big nothingburger,” said a member of the DNC, reading several talking points given to him by the media. “We have been assured by our partners in the media that they will not be covering this story, exactly as we requested.”

The DNC spokesperson then shouted the word “Democracy!” before turning and running headfirst into the glass door of the DNC headquarters.

Insiders with both the DNC and the media announced they will continue to collude with each other as long as they get away with it, or everyone stops listening to them — whichever comes first. “We will not stop doing this as long as it benefits us, and also we’re not doing it,” said the DNC spokesperson.

At publishing time, the media and DNC had confirmed they would also be suppressing the story about their collusion to suppress the original collusion to suppress the news story.

Babylon Bee

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American Free Press is mostly a memory, our press now a propaganda arm of the elite authoritarian cabal – they’ll tell us what to think and don’t complain!

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1 year ago
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The Bee is such a bad Imitation of the Onion it’s embarrassing.

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Could you repost the chart you deleted?

It was helpful.

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grey fox you deleted that chart from who was it…???

I notice that the image more accurately described that the 5% increase It showed refered to those that are “Hospitalized”, and did not refer to “hospitalizations”, “hospitalization rates”, or “new admissions”, which would all be untrue.

It was an improvement.

Now if the government and the rest of the news agencies, etc., would only follow suit, and clearly define the difference between “hospitalized”, and, “hospitalization rates”, it would be much easier to decipher the true current message and situation.

The most recent government message for Humboldt, (CDC, Dec. 3), is 1 new hospitalization, in addition to the 14 already currently hospitalized.

They are calling that a 7.7% increase in hospitalizations.

I’m calling bullshit on that nonsense.

It’s actually only an overall increase of merely 0.00073769%, on top of 0.01032766% total currently hospitalized with covid in Humboldt County.

A drop in the bucket.

Claiming that a true 0.00073769% increase is somehow a farcical 7.7% increase is WAY beyond a stretch, and calling it “blowing things WAY out of proportion”, would be a vastly huge understatement…

Calling it a 7.7% increase, is actually 10,438 times higher than the truth of 0.0007369%, as a matter of fact.

10,438 TIMES !!!

And that is why I protest to this absolutely ridiculous propaganda, especially during a government vaccine push.

They are outrageous, manipulative, Government lies.

I believe they should not be disseminated.

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Disgraced lawyer Michael Avenatti, onetime opponent of Donald Trump, sentenced to 14 years in fraud case

The ex-lawyer once represented Stormy Daniels against the former president.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/disgraced-lawyer-michael-avenatti-onetime-opponent-donald-trump/story?id=94509483

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That’s actually pretty funny, grey fox…

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California senior citizens are hit hard as COVID-19 surges this winter..

There has been a troubling spike in coronavirus-positive hospital admissions among seniors in California, rising to levels not seen since the summer Omicron surge.

Hospitalizations have roughly tripled for Californians of most age groups since the autumn low. But the jump in seniors in need of hospital care has been particularly dramatic.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-05/senior-california-covid-19-hospitalization-rates-spike

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Poor memory or lying?

Dr. Fauci said “I don’t recall” 174 times, including when asked about emails that he sent and interviews that he gave according to the transcript of his deposition…
@bennyjohnson

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That’s as many “IDK’s” as Hillary deposition on her home email server

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Under sworn deposition, Fauci admits his deputies were impressed with how the CCP was “handling the isolation, the contact tracing, the building of facilities to take care of people” after meeting with their delegation https://t.co/1cZo54zk5e

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He testified on November 23rd, 2022…

Here is what Fauci said on November 22nd, 2022…

” “If there are oversight hearings I absolutely will cooperate fully and testify before the Congress,” Fauci told reporters Tuesday during a briefing at the White House.

“I have no trouble testifying — we can defend and explain everything that we’ve said.” ”

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I’d say he was lying both days…

He’s a pathological compulsive liar, just like I’ve said…

“We”

What’s that mean?

Does Fauci keep a humanized mouse in his pocket, or does he have a multiple personality disorder???

I don’t understand how anyone could possibly look up to him.

They would have to look up to his humanized mice as well.

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1 year ago

China is partly adjusting its zero COVID policy by ramping up vaccinations for senior citizens. But vaccine hesitancy may be a problem for the authorities.
NPR~

Vaccine misinformation is world wide.

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Yep, they keep saying it’s working.

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COVID-19 Misinformation: The Flip Side of ‘Knowledge is Power.

The term “infodemic” — which has its very own page on the World Health Organization’s website — became common parlance for the exponential way in which COVID-19 misinformation spreads. Every part of the pandemic seemed to have its own piece of mistruth or lie to go with it, ranging from the disease’s origins to treatments and the vaccines that have dulled COVID-19’s impact.
https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/news-blog/2022/october/covid-misinformation-the-flip-side-of-knowledge-is-power

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Benefits of Getting Vaccinated………..
Updated Dec. 5, 2022

What You Need to Know.
There are many benefits of getting vaccinated against COVID-19.

Prevents serious illness: COVID-19 vaccines available in the United States are safe and effective at protecting people from getting seriously ill, being hospitalized, and dying.
A safer way to build protection: Getting a COVID-19 vaccine is a safer, more reliable way to build protection than getting sick with COVID-19.
Offers added protection: COVID-19 vaccines can offer added protection to people who had COVID-19, including protection against being hospitalized from a new infection.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/vaccine-benefits.html

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COVID is the least of our worries right now….

‘What’s Spreading in Your Community?’

“Winter respiratory viruses like Flu and RSV have been spreading across the state for weeks, and now COVID-19 cases are ticking up.”

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Let’s get him under oath and hear his testimony…

r. Andrew G. Huff and his new book “The Truth About Wuhan: How I Uncovered the Biggest Lie in History.”

Huff told Fox News Digital he has been in touch with Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., and Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee, suggesting he’d be willing to testify when Republicans officially take over the House of Representatives next month. 

He’s calling on Republicans to “launch a full investigation” into COVID’s origins and the role EcoHealth Alliance had.

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CDC encourages people to wear masks to help prevent spread of Covid, flu and RSV over the holidays

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said wearing a mask is an everyday precaution that people can take to reduce their chances of catching or spreading a respiratory virus.
Flu and respiratory syncytial virus are circulating at high levels at the same time Covid is picking up, straining hospital emergency departments.
Walensky strongly encouraged everyone who is eligible to receive their Covid booster and flu shot.

@CNBC

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As of October, 10,020 of the CDC’s 12,892 full-time employees — 78% of the full-time workforce — were allowed to work remotely all or part of the time, according to data that KHN obtained via a Freedom of Information Act request.
Experts said the lack of face-to-face work will likely be a substantial obstacle to the top leadership’s effort to overhaul the agency after its failures during the pandemic — a botched testing rollout, confusing safety guidance, the slow release of scientific research, and a loss of public trust.

https://khn.org/news/article/much-of-the-cdc-is-working-remotely-that-could-make-changing-the-agency-difficult/

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1 year ago

Why do bullies put others down?
“Bullies don’t have enough empathy, so they don’t understand how their words or actions make others feel. Also, they have to be right, which means they belittle others just because they can’t accept that the other person has a different point of view than they do.”

@Google

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WASHINGTON — The Infectious Diseases Society of America on Friday announced the creation of an award honoring National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony S. Fauci, MD. The Anthony Fauci Award will be given for the first time in 2023 as one of the IDSA Society Awards, the IDSA said.

Healio News~