Judge Finds Arcata Police Officer Had Reasonable Cause to Arrest Zoellner, Throws out Jury’s $776,300 Award

 

David lawson and Kyle Zoellner

From left to right: David Josiah Lawson, the deceased, and Kyle Zoellner, shown badly beaten in this mugshot when he was originally arrested for Lawson’s stabbing death.

Yesterday, Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley overturned the $776,300 awarded by the jury in the lawsuit by Kyle Zoellner against a former Arcata Police Officer in his case alleging wrongful arrest for the murder of David Josiah Lawson in 2017. The judge ruled for the defendant, former officer Eric Losey, saying that even though Zoellner had convinced the jury that malicious prosecution had occurred, “a reasonable officer could believe there was a fair probability Mr. Zoellner stabbed Mr. Lawson… .”  By law, a jury is not at liberty to decide the merits of probable cause, so a judge needed to weigh in on the final element of the verdict – to decide and determine whether or not there was probable cause for the arrest in the first place.

Zoellner needed to meet a standard of proof demanding a “preponderance of evidence” in his favor with regard to his allegations that malicious prosecution was at play.  

Screengrab from the Judge’s October 17, 2022 Order affirming Probable Cause for Zoellner’s arrest in the Lawson case, and overturning the jury’s verdict awarding monetary compensation to the tune of $776,300.00 to Zoellner, payable by the City of Arcata and Eric Losey. 

Screengrab from the Judge’s October 17, 2022 Order affirming Probable Cause for Zoellner’s arrest in the Lawson case, and overturning the jury’s verdict awarding monetary compensation to the tune of $776,300.00 to Zoellner, payable by the City of Arcata and Eric Losey. Another $50,000 in punitive damages were also awarded.

The Judge Corley writes, “[O]ne element of that claim requires Mr. Zoellner to prove that no reasonable officer with Mr. Losey’s knowledge would have probable cause to believe Mr. Zoellner stabbed Mr. Lawson. After hearing the evidence at trial, considering the parties’ post-trial briefs, and holding oral argument on October 13, 2022, the Court concludes that Mr. Zoellner has not proved the lack of probable cause element of his malicious prosecution claim.”  [Bold text added by us for emphasis]

Responding to our email, the City of Arcata’s attorney, Patrick Moriearty had some feedback as for the judge’s ruling, and clarified that the civil case leveled against former Arcata Police officer Eric Losey is concluded with the Judge’s ruling in favor of Losey.  According to Moriearty, “The judge found that the plaintiff was unable to prove an essential element of malicious prosecution, which is the probable cause standard.  The judge’s ruling set aside the jury’s verdict in favor of Kyle’ Zoellner, and against Eric Losey.” The city’s attorney added, “The court’s ruling ends the trial with judgment in favor of defendant Eric Losey.”

Charmaine Lawson at 2020 memorial rally in front of the Humboldt County Courthouse. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

Charmaine Lawson at 2020 memorial rally in front of the Humboldt County Courthouse. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

Charamine Lawson, the mother of the deceased, was delighted with the verdict. She told us,,“For right now, I am overjoyed and absolutely relieved because the judge got it right. There were absolute, absolute probable cause to arrest Kyle Zoellner for the murder of my son.”

She added, “I am emotionally exhausted, but not giving up. I’m never gonna give up until Justice is served for my son. I’m not going away. I know that Kyle Christopher Zoellner, based on the evidence, is responsible for the murder of my son.”

Near the beginning of the written Order disenfranchising Zoellner of his potential monetary windfall, the Honorable Judge Corley set the stage for the findings, and laid out the context of the matter.  She explained the circumstances, writing, “This action arises out of the stabbing death of David Josiah Lawson on April 15, 2017, in Arcata, California. Kyle Zoellner was arrested and charged with Mr. Lawson’s murder. However, following a preliminary hearing that began 10 business days after the district attorney filed the charge, a state court judge found that the district attorney had not proved probable cause to hold Mr. Zoellner for trial and dismissed the murder charge without prejudice. Mr. Zoellner thereafter initiated this action.” 

In response to an email inquiry last week for comment on the case’s outcome and the allegations made on behalf of Zeollner, his Attorney Elisabeth Zareh replied promptly, before the Judge’s Order was handed down, and asserted that the Lawson case had been mishandled by not only the Arcata Police Department, but by the county DA’s office which makes determinations as to what criminal charges are leveled, as well.  

Ms. Zareh did not mince words as Zoellner’s legal counsel, and wrote in response to our email, “Framing someone for first degree murder with a sentence of 25 years to life is nothing but malicious. The community needs to know that their police department engaged in malicious conduct to frame one of its own citizens. This is not a simple issue and should not be treated lightly.”

With yesterday’s finding by a judge nearly 500 miles away from Humboldt’s ongoing Lawson death investigation, the possibility for prosecution of the Lawson case is given renewed attention, despite validated claims that there were elements of “malicious prosecution” related to the arrest of Zoellner, and at play once the case was presented in Humboldt County Criminal Court. As current Humboldt County District Attorney Maggie Fleming made clear in an email to us, the DA’s Office considers allegations made by Zoellner that local officials colluded to frame him for Lawson’s murder unfounded.

Recall D.A. Fleming sign held by protesters at Arcata Plaza.

D.A. Maggie Fleming has faced considerable hostility for her decision not retry Kyle Zoellner at this time as shown by this sign held by protesters at Arcata Plaza in 2019. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]

In her order, the judge found that Zoellner failed to prove that Officer Losey was misguided in his arrest of Zoellner for the death of Lawson at the scene of the crime in 2017, writing that a “reasonable officer could believe there was a fair probability Mr. Zoellner stabbed Mr. Lawson based on the undisputed evidence at trial indicating that Mr. Losey knew Mr. Zoellner was the only person present with a motive to stab Mr. Lawson, he was the only person seen fighting with and thus having the opportunity to stab Mr. Lawson, and he was the only person with blood-soaked clothes.” 

Judge Corley continued, “Further, the identification of Mr. Zoellner as the stabber was corroborated by Mr. Wright’s credible and nearly-contemporaneous observations.” Making clear that the court was not assessing the strength of the prosecution’s case, adding, “[T]he evidence emphasized by Mr. Zoellner may have made it difficult to prove his conduct beyond a reasonable doubt, but it does not defeat the much lower standard of probable cause.” 

Describing the ill-fated night in Arcata in detail, the Order Regarding Probable Cause Element is twelve pages of carefully outlined justification for upholding the original arrest of Zyle Zoellner, in spite of contention as to police mishandling of the investigation from the first moments that police arrived on scene. While the investigation of Lawson’s tragic death has been scrutinized at length by community members and local media, it was the National Police Foundation’s review of the case that argued there were numerous shortcomings and mistakes made by the APD. 

Zoellner’s attorney, Elisabeth Zareh, told us there were blunders along the way to trial, and claimed that “exculpatory evidence” was withheld by the District Attorney, which should have been made available to the defense for Zoellner. “Clearly the intent is to punish Kyle Zoellner for standing up to them. This is how low your officials have gone. And then, in the middle of the trial, we learned that APD and the DA concealed their critical communications about this case from Kyle Zoellner to cover-up. I wonder how [the] public can trust APD, the chief of police and the DA’s office when they conceal records.”  

When asked what this exculpatory evidence entailed, purportedly offering some defense of Zoellner, his attorney made reference to email correspondence which was not yet made available to the defense. Zareh described to us “a key email between Arcata Police Department and Maggie Fleming” which she asserted was not made available until mid trial.  

Referencing deadlines that are standard in civil court proceedings in the context of a drawn out timeline of events, District Attorney Maggie Fleming told us, “It is my understanding the trial court found Mr. Zoellner’s attorney did not timely request records from the District Attorney’s Office. My testimony included the voluntary disclosure of an email I found in my attempt to establish the sequence of events around the time Mr. Zoellner was charged over 5 years ago.”

Offering an impassioned defense of her client to us in an email prior to the judge’s ruling on probable cause coming down, Zareh also wrote, “There is no doubt that APD’s investigation was bias[ed] toward Kyle Zoellner to frame him. They choose to ignore significant and important exculpatory evidence and excluded them in their investigation. Instead they made up false claims and facts against Kyle. It appears they framed Kyle Zoellner to cover their incompetence.” 

District Attorney Maggie Fleming responded to attorney Zareh’s claim that the case against Zeollner was trumped up by flatly refuting the concept that anything untoward had occurred in the process of deciding to charge Zoellner with Lawson’s murder.  Fleming said, “The D.A.’s Office did not frame Mr. Zoellner. We charged Mr. Zoellner when the Office reasonably believed that evidence could substantiate charges at trial.”

Summarizing her findings in the written Order, Judge Corley wrote, “Finally, in his written probable cause submission, Mr. Zoellner insists that the evidence points to suspects other than himself and, in particular, he contends that Mr. Lawson’s girlfriend, was injured by the knife believed to be the murder weapon.” The pleading continues without ambiguity, summarizing the lack of evidence that Zoellner contends would obviate the reasoning for his arrest that night. The judge’s Order as to probable cause further explains, “On the trial record, that statement is false. There is no evidence that anyone other than Mr. Lawson was injured by a knife at the party on April 15, 2017, let alone the knife thought to be the murder weapon.”

At the end of a long trial and a long day, Charmaine Lawson expressed her commitment to seek out what the justice system has long delayed, saying that she is “not giving up until justice is served.” Lawson reflected on her son, David Josiah Lawson’s legacy with fondness, saying, “[M]y son was a wonderful young man with a bright future. My son has never been in trouble with the law, my son does not know what a handcuff… feels like, he doesn’t know what the inside of a jail cell feels like. He was smart, he was kind, and he was a scholar. He was loving, and he was compassionate, and he did not…deserve to be butchered. He was stabbed in his chest almost 4 inches.That is murder. That is absolute cruelty, and that is murder, and I will never give up until his murderer is brought to justice.” 

Adding that her focus was on moving the investigation into her son’s death forward, Lawson added, “I’m not going away…so, I thank the judge for seeing the facts very clearly.”  Looking forward to a possible prosecution in the death of her son, Lawson said, “Again, the evidence was overwhelming to say the least. It was enough. you don’t need an eyewitness with evidence that was presented–DNA, bloody clothes, and a motive… ‘Why do you need an eyewitness?’ so, that would be my question to Maggie Fleming.” 

Charmaine Lawson with Chief Brian Ahearn. [

Charmaine Lawson with Chief Brian Ahearn. [Photo taken April 15, 2019 by Ryan Hutson]

After a contentious and at times emotionally charged trial hearing before a jury in federal court in San Francisco, Kyle Zoellner will be walking away “with zero dollars,” as predicted by Charmaine Lawson, mother of David Josiah Lawson, the Humboldt State University student who died after being fatally stabbed in Arcata at an off-campus birthday party in 2017. This, as local police investigators with APD have vowed to continue their investigation, and ask that witnesses come forward, despite the number of years that have passed. 

The Arcata Police Department has a hotline, specifically for the Lawson case, and at the five-year mark reiterated their commitment to the case.  “Anyone with information regarding the murder of Josiah Lawson is asked to call the Arcata Police Department’s confidential tip line at (707) 825-2590 or APD Dispatch at (707) 822-2424.  Eyewitness accounts of what led up to, and including the murder of Josiah are crucial to bringing this case back to court,” wrote APD. 

To read Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley’s order in full, click here.

This article is written by Ryan Hutson, a local freelance journalist. Follow Ryan at Humboldt Freelance Reporting on Facebook, Insta and YouTube. To support Ryan’s award winning reporting, please consider donating here.

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Sonnyb
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Sonnyb
3 years ago

Another liberal judge going against the will of the people. What is the use of an trial when the verdict of 12 people can be over turned by an single judge. Once an jury has spoken, case closed. Now this guy are protected by double Jeopardy an faces no consequences for his actions. Are system should be changed if an judge over turns an ruling we restart from square one.

raiconlan@gmail.com
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3 years ago
Reply to  Sonnyb

What actions he got beat up by a crowd of people from out of the area over nothing. You wanna come here act hard and then get stabbed by one of your drunk homeboys.

Dano
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Dano
3 years ago

Grow up. He definitely did the deed. There is zero evidence anyone else did it and a lot of evidence he did do it.

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
3 years ago
Reply to  Sonnyb

Wouldn’t a “liberal” judge side with the jury and not the police?
Does this seem logical to you?
Do you often have contradictory thoughts?

North westCertain license plate out of thousands c
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North westCertain license plate out of thousands c
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

Some people think they can own the libs with cracks like that.

Dano
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Dano
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

The right thinks everything is the liberals fault instead of the truth that liberals are responsible for everything good in our society. Conservatives never have any good ideas/policies to run on so they must demonize liberals.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Furthermore:

The Constitution itself is a liberal document.

The attacks from the neo-fascist extreme-right that culminated into Jan 6 have just begun, the Constitution is at threat.

Actually
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Actually
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Nah. I appreciate the sentiment but the constitution was written by what would be considered super conservative white slave/business owners only in it for their own economic interests. The revolutionary war was largely unpopular with the “common folk” until the “founding fathers” were able to whip up a pr/propaganda program that suited their interests.

While the constitution has some “liberal” amendments the original document is hardly liberal.

The 3/5ths compromise being the most obvious example.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Actually

Granting social, elective and judicial freedoms to society (albeit segments at a time) was quite liberal compared to the feudalism and monarchies of past ruled by religious and charlatan zealots.

Ask the King of Saudia Arabia if granting the Sauds the same Constitution would be conservative.

Go on.

Country Joe
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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

The Constitution isn’t under threat. Jan. 6 was not an insurrection.

Country Joe
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3 years ago
Reply to  Dano

This is the truth not demonization…The left is on a race to the ethical and moral bottom.

Frank Pembleton
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Frank Pembleton
3 years ago
Reply to  Sonnyb

It is hardly “the will of the people”. It was the decision of jurors that did not, for whatever reason(s), understand the concept and threshold of “probable cause to arrest”. In this case, the judge did the proper intervention and application of the law to achieve a lawful outcome. Mr Zoellner and his attorney rolled the dice using the flawed (to put it nicely) APD investigation to look for a payout that is not coming.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Sonnyb

Or, a liberal jury sending a message to rural law enforcement that they need to do a better job when working a homicide case.

Dano
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Dano
3 years ago
Reply to  Sonnyb

The people are not the experts with regard to the law and probable cause. That is why the Judge has this role. This has nothing to do with “double jeopardy” as Zoellner has never been to trial on the murder.

onlooker
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onlooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Sonnyb

I suggest you actually study legal procedure. The judge ruled according to law, and fact, which is different from “the will of the people.” Some of the people.

raiconlan@gmail.com
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3 years ago

Based on the evidence Kyle Zoellner is not responsible for the death of your son Ms Lawson. Your son was stabbed by one of his friends as they tried to kill Kyle Zoellner.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago

Oh, that’s not gonna fly with the arm chair Internet jury. Lots of people consistently looking to blame Kyle, obviously including Ms Lawson. Too bad she still seeks revenge and rejects the reality that life is unfair.

I predict there will never be a resolution that satisfies her and we can all expect her to publicly accuse someone of murder for the rest of her life. If the loss of her son wasn’t enough tragedy, the coming decades of hate and unverifiable accusations towards Kyle will become Ms Lawson’s legacy.

Dano
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Dano
3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Ridiculous statement and victim blaming. I think she has been very pateint with our inept justice system that is perpetually unfair to minorities.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Well done playing the race card. When all else fails why not? I guess you’d call that victim blaming too.

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
3 years ago

Even if Kyle did stab him there would seemingly be a decent argument for self defense

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

No there isn’t.

He came back from his car and stabbed Lawson, he could have left.

well . . .
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well . . .
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Even if he came back from his car, armed with a knife (not how I remember it) if he was then attacked and defended himself, wouldn’t that still be self-defense?

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

it will be hard for him to claim that in a criminal court, now that he has repeatedly claimed under oath that “he remembers nothing after being sucker punched, until waking up in jail.” I mean, except that he was completely coherent in the backseat of the patrol car talking to the officer, where he was walked over, pants covered in blood.
Doesn’t remember anything, but somehow magically remembers wiping his nose on the back of his pants (in cuffs).
Hard to claim self defense if you’ve been lying for 5 years that you don’t remember jack.
And your boss lied that there were no knives like yours, and then police located the knives at your place of work.
Get his ass.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  WAIT FOR IT

Right on.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  WAIT FOR IT

Nice, a rally for the virtual lunch mob.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

nice, a defense from the virtual sheet wearers

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  WAIT FOR IT

Yes I’m racist because I disagree with you. Oh, you’re efforts only harm people who are truly victims of racism. How are we supposed to take you seriously, unless you are just trolling…

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Darryl Brooks’ Buddy

Lola V
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Lola V
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

That’s not what happened. He came to pick up his girlfriend and her friends. Josiah and his friends started the fight. Kyle never made it back to his car because he got the crap beat out of him. I believe that knife came from the house or the Castillo brother’s car as they were the ones that went to their car after being pepper sprayed and came back. I don’t believe Josiah was the intended target.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
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Dano
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Dano
3 years ago

LMAO. Based on the evidence it all points to Zoellner which is why the judge ruled in this way.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
3 years ago
Reply to  Dano

This ruling is just finding that there was probable cause for the arrest and initial prosecution.

Unfortunately, unless some additional evidence surfaces, it seems unlikely that we’ll ever have a conclusive answer to what happened that night. Most people will continue to let their biases guide their conclusions about how things transpired

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago

Another typical case of an out of control “justice” system where the people made a decision and a cowardly, self serving judge took it upon herself to overturn the decision. Apparently there’s no real need for people to waste their time serving on a jury. They were, and commonly are deemed by the “exceptional intelligence” of the “judge” to be incompetent to make a decision. I get the idea of the losing side appealing the verdict, but not one individual making rash decisions like this.

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

I agree. I’m not really attached to the idea of Kyle getting money or not or even which way this case went but… Why have a jury hear it if they don’t matter?! This result pretty much signifies that juries of citizens don’t count. And so yes why would anybody serve on a jury, to have your time wasted for an insulting amount of compensation and then to be overridden and told that you don’t even count?! That is weird!!

Dano
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Dano
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

That isn’t what this means at all.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

She didn’t take it upon herself. It was written into the directions, that the jury would decide on several factors (most of which were predetermined by the inarguable facts), and the judge would rule on probable cause based on the evidence.
It is LAW that only a judge can determine probable cause.
She sees cases daily. My take is that the San Francisco jury wanted to send a message to law enforcement that they NEED to do their job efficiently. Losey’s mistake almost allowed the prime suspect to walk off with this case.
Kyle Zoellner needs to be locked up. He was DRENCHED in Lawson’s blood. Looking Hope the court transcripts are made public, filled with Zoellner lying on the stand.

Dano
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Dano
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Not rash at all. Any reasonable person would think there is enough evidence to arrest Zoellner, unless you are racist, of course…

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Yes anyone who doesn’t outright yell Kyle is guilty must be a racist. Of course. Lol.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Here’s a well thoughtout response from the elites.

Kyle and Josiah were both pieces of shit, it’s a pain on the arse when the plebs get uppity.

The solution?

More boosters!

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago

Hmmm..well, why even bother having the trial held before a jury of 12 people if those 12 people have no say in it? It sure sounds like a waste of time and money. And frankly it doesn’t look very good! 12 citizens agreed after a court hearing into all the facts that he was unjustly arrested… But then one judge gets to reverse that and throw it out? It’s just that this seems like a very expensive and ineffective way of doing business…

Bozo
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Bozo
3 years ago

Meanwhile… there is an article about why people don’t want to serve on jury duty.
Yup… go figure.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago

Kyle Zoellner is guilty of murdering David Lawson.

Kyle Zoellner is guilty of murdering David Lawson.

Kyle Zoellner is guilty of murdering David Lawson.

Kyle Zoellner is guilty of murdering David Lawson.

Kyle Zoellner is guilty of murdering David Lawson.

Kyle Zoellner is guilty of murdering David Lawson.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Haha you’re a broken record. Oh, why make a mockery of this tragedy? You were not there that night.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

It’s not mockery, and it’s not defamation.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Saying the same thing repeatedly doesn’t make it true, but keep on convincing yourself.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Hey pal, my links are on prior articles and I’m just a commentor.

There are way better resources for YOU to have been reading for the last ____ years about this case.

You’re ignorant about this case and time will show it.

Watch.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Sure I’ll keep waiting. Lol

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Trouble with imports?

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

read the transcripts from the civil suit. there is a mountain of physical evidence. Cold cases get resolved with much less. Kyle did it, and should be locked up.

Dano
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Dano
3 years ago
Reply to  WAIT FOR IT

Exactly

Just sayin
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Just sayin
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Hope kyle refiles his lawsuit! This time for 5 million!

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Just sayin

I think failing a defamation case once in court while guilty of murder is probably more than enough attention for that POS.

well . . .
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well . . .
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Why don’t you come forward with your testimony or evidence then?

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

Why don’t you review the evidence presented at the civil suit?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17tz274JhuJlfp8O0ip1ST9jP_JD2rSpH/view

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
3 years ago
Reply to  WAIT FOR IT

You keep posting that document, but the only thing it proves is that there was plenty of cause to suspect Mr Zoellner and arrest him at the scene. It is very far from proving what happened that night and who stabbed Mr Lawson

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

Because he read all the documents and therefore knows it all. True social justice warrior!

willow creeker
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3 years ago

This is good news. Reminds me of what someone said about the arc of justice being long but true. It’s a matter of time before Kyle is charged.

Vet
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Vet
3 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

And aquitted. No way will there not always be “reasonable doubt” in this case.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Vet

Have you reviewed the physical evidence?
It’s pretty damning. The police got the right guy.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
Reply to  WAIT FOR IT

Who cares about this kid?

Big pharmacy kills every day
military industrial complex kills every day
The plebs are truly helpless pitiful examples of resistance to true tyranny, so we punch down. ..

Like short people who can’t reach

raiconlan@gmail.com
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3 years ago
Reply to  WAIT FOR IT

Have and it looks like josiahs gf or brother stabbed him if Zoellner did stab him and I don’t believe this it was self-defense. Don’t attack people in a group and this won’t happen.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Vet

Hard to have reasonable doubt with Kyle’s sweatshirt completely drenched in Josiah’s blood, leaking through to his t-shirt. That, and all his lies.

time
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time
3 years ago

A lot of critical commenters who don’t appear to have reviewed the legal proceedings.

The law states that a judge, not a jury, must rule on probable cause.

I am astounded that with all of the evidence presented – Zoellner is not in jail.
He murdered Josiah Lawson, he has lied under oath, and he needs to be brought to Justice.

He says he doesn’t remember anything from “getting punched until waking up in jail” but… remembers wiping his nose on his pants? And was speaking clearly in the backseat of patrol car.

Meanwhile video shows he was saturated in Josiah’s blood.

Also: so much blood that it soaked through his sweatshirt to the t shirt.

Yeah. His ass is grass, arrest him, YESTERDAY.

well . . .
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well . . .
3 years ago
Reply to  time

If he was soaked in that much blood, does that mean that Josiah was on top of him while bleeding! If so it seems like self-defense to me.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

No, fool. Josiah was on his back, and Zoellner was also on his back, on top of him. Josiah had him in a headlock, after Zoellner stabbed him. This is why Zoellners back was drenched in blood from Josiah’s chest wounds, and why there was not blood on the grass where the stabbing occured.

Unless, of course, you believe Kyle, who swears he drenched the back of his sweatshirt and pants in blood by wiping his nose, in handcuffs, in the back of a patrol car. But also, doesn’t remember anything, and also, has never done drugs, because you know, that Meth arrest was actually Molly “from a festie.”
Read some literature on the subject.

Joe
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Joe
3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

No s*** if my face look like that and I somehow got a knife in my hands I’d be stabbing anybody within arm’s length

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Joe

And you’d thankfully go to jail for murder.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Joe

His face got like that AFTER he stabbed someone.

The irony of the fierce Zoellner didn’t do its : “we don’t call cops, we handle things ourselves round these parts” mentality…except when it comes to Zoellner.

How hard is it to wrap your head around a timeline where Zoellner stabs Lawson, then receives the majority of his facial injuries?

The police testimony and – what the federal judge ruled to be credible eyewitness testimony supports that KZ’s injuries were not the source of the blood. The blood was from Lawson.

How does his stupid face outweigh the damage of multiple stabwounds and a dead unarmed person?

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
Reply to  WAIT FOR IT

One person dies, it’s a tragedy.
One million die, it’s a STATISTIC.

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Dano
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Dano
3 years ago
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Their racism is showing, plain and simple. They wanted Kyle to get the money because they hate black people. They don’t even want to understand the issue, it all about maintaining privilege.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  Dano

Haha this is a good troll. Yep everyone who disagrees with you and the other armchair jurists are racist. Lol

The Real Brian
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3 years ago

Charmaine, congratulations.

And let me say to the ignoramuses here;

Charmaine told you so.

well . . .
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well . . .
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

She told us our whole county is racist too.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

Nah, it’s “good people”…

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Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/17/eugenics-is-trending-thats-problem/

“The only thing worse than a dangerous idea, is one that is well funded”

-Corp Serf

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“Kater provides ample evidence that ‘physicians became
Nazified more thoroughly and much sooner than any other profession’10. We know, for example, that by 1936 at least half of Germany’s non-Jewish doctors had become Party members, and that this level of enrolment was broadly sustained through to 1945.”

https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4698/2/3/157/htm

“Life was not alone in promoting such claims. In the past 15 years, Atlantic Monthly, New Republic, U.S. News and World Report, Time, and Newsweek, to mention only a few, have all carried cover stories emphasizing the contribution of genes to our social behavior.”

https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.1066325

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WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

her son was murdered, give it a break.
Lock Zoellner Up!

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

She denies her son was anything but a wonderful gentleman too. Anyone involved in multiple fights is definitely not a gentleman. Anyone who has all night drinking parties is not a gentleman. Any time someone is killed it is a tragedy, but quit the BS about him being of good caracter. If you’re a drunk and get in to fights, bad things happen.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

David was a college student.

Kyle had been arrested for meth, along with half his family.

You really want to talk reps?

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Again, I didn’t remember Kyle and his family being arrested for meth the night of the killing. Was it just possession or did a blood draw show it in his system?

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I am a college graduate. I’ve never been drunk or used drugs and have never been in a fight. I don’t care if he was a college student. He made bad choices and put himself in a very bad situation that cost him his life.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

You’ve made bad choices by assuming you know something without actually reviewing the evidence and record as an individual with an education.

Please cite the evidence where it is shown he was intoxicated.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Please refrain from using logic and common sense. The virtual lynch mob runs on emotion and the belief everyone is racist if they disagree. I’ll be called racist for even stating this.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

You have automatically assumed the PR narrative from the white guy is more accurate because you see a white guy with a black eye.

I mean, it’s obvious you haven’t reviewed the case.

So, why have you just chosen that narrative that you have?

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Because I’m racist right? Lol

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

You tell me why. Answer the question in your own words.

raiconlan@gmail.com
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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Reviewed and believe that either his gf or “brother” stabbed him by mistake.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
3 years ago

Yup, gangmember “friend” intended to murder Kyle missed mark with unfortunate consequences

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
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Count me in I guess! I’m as far from racist as possible, but have been regularly called one on this site. I believe all people, regardless of race are either primarily good or primarily bad. Me calling out bad is based only on the behavior exhibited.

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thetallone
3 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Best example of victim blaming I’ve seen in a while.

raiconlan@gmail.com
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3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Years previously and he was sober at the party and physically smaller than the people who attacked him. Does drug possesion years earlier prove murder no.

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willow creeker
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3 years ago

A determined mother is the best chance many victims of crime have to find justice. I would not be sleeping well if I were Kyle.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
3 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Yeah he probably won’t because some vindictive mother is hell bent on seeing someone pay for her son’s death and he’s the easiest target. As for justice, well there’s more than enough doubt to see an acquittal. Plus the jury pool is so tainted by now that she will waste the rest of her life unable to railroad this guy.

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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
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Vindictive mother? Easy target?
Poor Kyle my ass. Railroad the guy? He did that himself.
DRENCHED in Josiah’s blood.
Check your foggy lenses, read the evidence from the civil suit. Zoellner is a liar, and the evidence suggests, a murderer.
Ms. Lawson is doing right by her child in ensuring no one brushes this tragedy under the rug.

raiconlan@gmail.com
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3 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Determined and misguided.

well . . .
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well . . .
3 years ago

Make this makes me feel like a fool forever serving jury duty.

I don’t believe that KZ was prosecuted maliciously, but I wasn’t on the jury.

Guest
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3 years ago

Even if he is not guilty, he was involved somehow. Why should he get paid almost a quarter million dollars?! That is outrageous.

Herc
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Herc
3 years ago
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3 quarters of a million

The Real Brian
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3 years ago

Because people aren’t reading the article :

In her order, the judge found that Zoellner failed to prove that Officer Losey was misguided in his arrest of Zoellner for the death of Lawson at the scene of the crime in 2017, writing that a “reasonable officer could believe there was a fair probability Mr. Zoellner stabbed Mr. Lawson based on the undisputed evidence at trial indicating that Mr. Losey knew Mr. Zoellner was the only person present with a motive to stab Mr. Lawson, he was the only person seen fighting with and thus having the opportunity to stab Mr. Lawson, and he was the only person with blood-soaked clothes.”

Alf
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Alf
3 years ago
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I have no problem with someone being detained by police when they are in some way involved in an altercation. However, detaining until facts are sorted out is a hell of a lot different than arresting on failed evidence and trying to prosecute in spite of failed evidence. It is because EPD detectives tried this on me for a case where there wasn’t even a crime committed and I was two towns away when the alleged crime “happened” that improper procedure is so repulsive to me. I’m not saying that’s what happened in this case, but 12 people thought so and one judge basically called them too stupid to make that decision. It’s obvious something about the case stinks very bad.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
3 years ago

Why aren’t the others prosecuted for their gang beating of Zoellner? The picture is enough to convict.

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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
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He was a reasonable threat, as he had just stabbed a man.
Gang beating my ass.. You forgot that he stabbed a man, they had a right to attempt to neutralize the threat.

Farce
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Farce
3 years ago
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But none of them said they saw him with a knife or that they were ” neutralizing a threat”. I’d be in full support of beating down a stabber! The reputation of all your other comments is now called into doubt. Sounds like you’re just slinging crap around now, seeing what sticks…

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Multiple people testified they punched Kyle after he stabbed Josiah. ReAd the dOcuMeNts.

GetOverYourself
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GetOverYourself
3 years ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

why did you choose to use the word “Gang”?

TDog
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TDog
3 years ago

that is just what Patrick Steven Koenig is going to look like when he gets up here!!!!!!!! :):::):):):):)::):) i cannot wait!!!!!! :):):):):))::)):wahooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enough already
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Enough already
3 years ago

This Lawson murder investigation was doomed from the beginning. The legal system folded to pressure to move this case forward too soon with the enphase being placed on race. The Arcata Police Department failed to properly investigate and maintain control of the investigation. They allowed outside pressure from the college and public to dictate which direction the case took when there were too many variables. Three people giving a beat down to a single individual, absolutely no phone video by party goers, and no eye witness, and even the “expert FBI” investigator was more interested in what the Police Department did wrong rather than the facts of the case. The DNA evidence did not define how the suspects blood gt on the knife. There was a fight taking place with 3 people beating on the suspect causing bleeding wounds. That puts 4 people in close proximty to each other transfering each other’s DNA. The changing statements causing confusion among”witnesses”, and then the claim of racism that was not really established as a factor. The Arcata Police Department and the public own the failure to solve this case because the public kept trying the case in public instead of letting Law Enforcement do the job they are suppose to do, and the Arcata Police for not reconizing they were not adequate enough to investigate this crime and reaching out for the appropriate help in a timely manner

raiconlan@gmail.com
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3 years ago
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If everyone is racist why would they and girlfriends of theirs be at the party. I grew up next to a reservation I rarely went to parties there not because of racism but the 2 white kids and an old white lady who had disappeared in the company of a reputed Indian serial killer the dreaded William Shade.

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Ben Round
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3 years ago

Apparently his SF based, ‘in the top 100 best trial attorneys’ didn’t know they were required to prove a lack of probable cause??? Wonder if she took it on as a contingency case.
https://www.zarehassociates.com

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Messed Up System
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Messed Up System
3 years ago
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She was wayyyy out gunned by the 4-member team on the defense side.
Possibly funded by the Police Officers Union

Messed Up System
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Messed Up System
3 years ago

Several people commenting have made statements without knowing facts.
Civil trials are different than criminal.
There was a jury of only 7 not 12.
It started out with 8, but one caught covid & dropped out.
The jury was, Old, Young, Men, Women, Black, White, Latinx.
The jurors were given very limited facts and made a judgment in Zoellner’s favor.
The wording of the jury instructions led them toward this decision.
There was little room for free expression.

Even though this case has a long & complex storyline…
The jury on this civil case was purposefully kept in the dark as to the big picture and forced to focus on limited information on this one point of contention.
Evidence given them for the jury room was only a few pages long & some video.

Testimony from both sides were highly coached.
They all had over 5 years to refine their side of the story.
Both sides exaggerated claims & buried what they do not want you to hear or deduce on your own. There were major contradictory statements from evidence shown & a few seeming bold face lies.

Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley made mention during the trial that probable cause was already determined so I guess this was just an exercise that needed to be done so she could make her ruling. She is magna cum laude Harvard Law grad.

The police took statements from over a dozen party goers from that night, that are inconsistent. There was admittedly alcohol, cocaine & marijuana being used contributing to this inconsistency.

Sounds like a girl fight broke out over a lost phone
and somehow the guys were drawn into it.
Where was the phone found?

Zoellner was the designated driver & tested 0.0 alcohol level.
Was he tested for any other drugs?
What were the drug & alcohol levels of others involved?

I read that the latest DNA test on the knife showing traces belonging to 4 people,
Zoellner, Lawson & 2 others. Who are the 2 others?

This case has a lot going on,
racism, reverse racism, student’s vs non-students,
police not having the resources to properly conduct the investigation being accused of being racist because nobody has been convicted.

How many know that Officer Losey was promoted to Detective around 4 am the night of the murder and was sent investigate. He was a traffic cop before with no detective experience. He made a mistake and was sued by Zoellner not the Lawson family.

There can never be an honest conversation so I will stop here.

Guest
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3 years ago

Couldn’t have been said better. Sadly no one will get answers that they are looking for at this point.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago

As a tax payer I don’t want anymore of my tax dollars going to anyone suing over this case.

It sounds to me, based on the court documents, that his friends stabbed him by accident instead of intentionally killing Kyle for asking about the lost phone.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
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Stop feeding the beast

willow creeker
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3 years ago
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I’m concerned by so many ‘new handle’ commenters on these threads. It makes me wonder if Kyle’s attorneys or other influence peddlers are throwing comments here under new handles. It’s just something I notice anytime there is a Josiah Lawson post. Some examples: ‘Messed up system’, ‘Enough Already’ , ‘Anon’, ‘Maximus’
It just seems like these one time posters who all have the same opinion, and write in a very similar style, set off my BS radar.

Messed Up System
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Messed Up System
3 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

I assure you I have never posted here before today and have never even seen this blog before.
Curiois as to what you think I posted that is factually incorrect and not presented as evidence in the last 2 weeks trial???

Please let me know with real evidence and I will quickly correct it.

local observer
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local observer
3 years ago

so my question is “what brought you here?”. i live here and have been following this from day one. there is motive and a weapon that overwhelmingly suggest Kyle did it. furthermore, it is not uncommon for caterer’s to pack up a knife from the house they are catering at. and even other kitchen utensils by mistake.

Messed Up System
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Messed Up System
3 years ago
Reply to  local observer

Your question “What brought you here?”
Curiosity…

That is why I asked a few questions.

I did not offer much in the way of an opinion.
I mostly commented on evidence presented at the trial where Zoellner attempted to sue the City of Arcata & Officer Losey in San Francisco Federal Court.

I made nothing up.

Trial dates were
October 3-4, 6-7, 11-12

I am not sure why ‘willow creeker’ thinks any of my statements should set off his or her “BS radar”

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

I’m just a regular Joe.

Wait for it…
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Wait for it…
3 years ago
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It sounds to me like you may have not reviewed the evidence from this civil suit. It is blatantly clear that Kyle Christopher Zoellner should be in jail right now.

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Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
Reply to  Wait for it…

You Remember OJs case?
civil vs criminal.

The threshold for guilt is different.

Can you imagine the model of defamation in the new justice system that is based on hurt feelings?

Is Alex Jones truly responsible for a billion dollars for the pain and suffering for NOT KILLING THE CHILDREN AT SANDY HOOK?

LIBERALS want to take free speech from their enemies.

Maybe Kanye West is on to something.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago

Maybe Kanye West is on to something.

Yeah. Over-payed antisemitism.

You’d just be a volunteer.

guest`
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guest`
3 years ago
Reply to  Wait for it…

Kyle should sue the frat for beating him up and medical damages.
The City should sue HSU to hold the school accountable for what their fresh out of high school students do in Arcata.
I’m not a lawyer, fyi.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago

No justice in this world.

Just a payoff. ..

(If you are lucky.)

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago

It amazes me how people can ignore this!

Today it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people.

Zbigniew Brzezinski

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willow creeker
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3 years ago

No one responds to your comments because they aren’t worthy of a conversation. Please.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

That’s why so many don’t care about people dying from the clot shots. Empathy only goes so far.

To respond intelligently, you’d have to recognize cognitive dissonance in the general public who believes that there are others who will protect them.

The difference between those who learn from history and those who cannot is obvious.

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Weir screwed
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Weir screwed
3 years ago

Dude, mercury isn’t helping the woke, any.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago

We are not idiots.

It’s easy if you try.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
3 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Agreed. It’s easy if you try. It’s a very important book. I imagine that he’d have been sued like Alex Jones if his statements were false.

If you have the facts. It’s bit more difficult to claim defamation.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago

That’s not your favorite book though.

You’ve mentioned another numerous times.

The Real Brian
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3 years ago
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Nah!

Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
3 years ago

It’s a conundrum for all the democrats, should I bash a Kennedy or should I side with him? I love it because they know he is right but the Biden devil on the other shoulder is whispering in their ear to throw him under the bus with the rest of those they consider deplorable.Kennedy is right, Tulsi is right. The democrats lose again. America throws the bums out in less than a month. Americans of all stripes win. Anyone want to make a bet on the facts stated above? I win.

Scott
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Scott
3 years ago

A scrawny drunk punk with a knife in the wee wee hours of the morning? What could possibly go wrong?

Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
3 years ago
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The fact that he wasn’t drunk and the people who attacked him were high or drunk, or both? Maybe? Did it ever dawn on you to wonder what kind of kitchen knives (Henchels maybe, they used to be high end but are now owned by everyone) were completely assessable to all party goers at the house party except the skinny white guy who didn’t have time to look for a knife in a kitchen since he was preoccupied getting stuffed outside? Hmmm. That could be a critical question. Or not.

WAIT FOR IT
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WAIT FOR IT
3 years ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

“kYlE dOeSN’t dO dRUgS”

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Messed Up System
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Messed Up System
3 years ago
Reply to  Scott

Zoellner was the designated driver & tested at the scene with a 0.0 alcohol level according to trial evidence.
Was he tested for any other drugs?
What were the drug & alcohol levels of others involved?

brodie
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brodie
3 years ago

It is no surprise the courts can not find enough people to be on jury’s. People gave up their time to listen to the evidence then one judge overrides it. Duh

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burblestein
3 years ago

There is an awful lot of confusion in this thread about civil and criminal cases. In a civil case, guilt is determined by a preponderance of the evidence; call it 51% proof. A criminal case conviction needs a much higher standard of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt. Think of it as at least 90% proof.

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R. Hutson
3 years ago
Reply to  burblestein

Yes! burblestein, this is am important distinction, and your comment is appreciated for spelling that out. Sometimes a hotlink in the article is overlooked, which offers a definition for curious minds, and so I thank you for making that point here in the comments.

Messed Up System
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Messed Up System
3 years ago

Zoellner asked for ~$27,000,000 in compensaory damages and ~$7,000,000 in punitive damages.

~$34,000,000 total

But did not back up this accounting with any documentation like medical bills, physciatrist testimony, receipts, only his word.

He seemed to contradict himself in several statments that were blantely obvious even to the casual observer.

He actually asked for ~$251 to fix his broken tooth from the fight that the City and Officer Losey had absolutely nothing to do with.

Said he was fired because of people protesting his work and nobody will hire him. So now he is on disability being paid by the state.

Would it be better if he was allowed to be productive and off the citizens payroll?

The fact that Zoellner had the ability to navigate the very complex federal court system representing himself until recently is somewhat crazy.

If Zoellner had polished attorneys the caliber of the defense he may well have won this case and several others that have been thrown out.

Zoellner still has one more case in the works against what may be some of the best in the business.

The system is broken on all sides

Country Joe
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3 years ago

Justice in action…