Nordic Aquafarms Final Environmental Impact Report Available for Public Review
Press release from the County of Humboldt:
The County of Humboldt has prepared a Final Environmental Impact Report (FEIR) for the Nordic Aquafarms California, LLC – Coastal Development Permit and Special Permit application (Case Number PLN-2020-16698), and the report is now available on the county’s website.
The Planning Commission will be considering the Coastal Development Permit and Special Permit at a Public Hearing on July 28 beginning at 6 pm in the Board of Supervisors Chambers.
The project is located on the old Samoa Pulp Mill site and would involve the clean up and redevelopment of the property to construct a Land-based finfish recirculating aquaculture system (RAS) facility (aquaculture facility) consisting of five buildings totaling 766,530 square feet producing between 25,000-27,000 metric tons of fish annually.
The site is located in the Samoa area, east of Vance Avenue, approximately 2,000 feet north from the intersection of Vance Avenue and Bay Street, on the property known as 364 Vance Avenue (Assessor Parcel Number 401-112-021).
The FEIR and information about the project is also available for public review at the Planning and Building Department.
For more information, please contact Cade McNamara, Planner II, by email at [email protected] or by phone at (707) 268-3777.
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do we get a tour after completion ?
What kind of fish are they gonna try to grow?
As long as it’s not Frankin salmon , we should be ok?
Last I read it was Atlantic Salmon.
What could go wrong?
https://www.ucdavis.edu/one-health/atlantic-salmon-escape-problem-pacific-northwest
This will be a land based operation. Apples and squirrels
You’re saying there is no potential for problems?
Or just less potential for problems?
not unless the grow legs or sprout wings
Or maybe just discharge “yellow mouth” virus, bacterial disease and or sea lice, in their 12.5 million gallons a day of effluent discharge into our ocean that could infect and/or infest our Native salmon populations?
“Farmed Atlantic salmon can carry viruses, bacteria and parasites such as sea lice that can infect wild salmon”
And it probably wouldn’t take that big of an earthquake to slosh a few of those Franken fish into the bay…
Those exact concerns are addressed in the report.
Yep, I saw that.
We are gonna have our very own “wet market”.
Do you really think that they will be able to stop the viruses and bacteria from escaping in into the ocean in the effluent? Don’t kid yourself.
Oh, they are going to sanitize to it first?
Sure thing, man. That’s a joke. Who is going to monitor the effluent 1.5 miles off shore, and however deep? That’s right nobody is!
Now tell me, how will they keep the bacteria and viruses from going right out the door, and right down the road, to the “western markets” on the very fish that they sell?
What is going to “contain” those bacteria and viruses after they leave the Nordic Aqua Farms facility?
Besides of course, the fish itself?
That’s right, nothing.
They would have to ” pressure can” it, before it leaves there, in order to kill the viruses and bacteria, before it left, otherwise, down the road it goes, to no telling where…
Read the EIR
No thanks, you go right ahead.
You got some quotes, post them.
Why don’t you just clear one thing up…
Will they be raising the AquAdvantage GMO Salmon?
I looked for that in the EIR…
No luck.
If that’s the kind of thing they won’t tell you in the EIR, it’s not worth reading.
Something in their FAQ’s about specifically bred Atlantic Salmon…
“GMO” isn’t specially bred, it’s Genetically Modified.
And Humboldt is a “GMO Free Zone”, isn’t it?
AquAdvantage® Salmon, would therefore be prohibited, wouldn’t it?
I knew you wouldn’t answer the AquAdvantage® question.
It all but confirms it.
And that sounds like an insult to me.
And I just learned of the trademark AquAdvantage ® GMO Fish today, although I was familiar with the concept, and it’s existence.
You act like you know what your talking about. Like you are familiar with the “ins and outs”…But, you also don’t seem to be able to answer a simple question.
Weird.
Pretty contradictory.
But that was very predictable, just like I said.
What are you trying to hide?
A prohibited GMO that will be raised in Humboldt, that is about to be permitted?
Do you know what you are talking about, or not?
Just tell the truth.
It’s that simple.
Read this…
https://ballotpedia.org/Humboldt_County_%22Genetic_Contamination_Prevention_Ordinance%22_GMO_Ban_Initiative,_Measure_P_(November_2014)
It’s the GMO ban for all of Humboldt, Measure P, passed, 61.18% to 38.82%, in 2014, which would prohibit AquAdvantage® from being produced in Humboldt County!
“The purpose of the proposed ordinance is to prohibit the propagation, cultivation, raising, or growing of genetically modified organisms in Humboldt County. The ordinance would make it unlawful for any person, partnership, corporation, firm, or legal entity of any kind to cultivate, raise, or grow genetically modified organisms in Humboldt County. A Genetically modified organism is defined as an organism, or the offspring of an organism, the DNA of which has been altered through genetic engineering. The ordinance does not apply to organisms created by traditional breeding or hybridization, or to microorganisms created by moving genes or gene segments between unrelated bacteria.”
Is this why they won’t specify exactly what kind of fish they intend to raise?
Because it’s a GMO?
Speaking of sprouting wings…
A bad omen???
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2022/jul/4/top-executives-nordic-aquafarms-us-operations-myst/
Did they “get away”, “escape”, or were they “intentionally released”.
Was there “a leak”?
Lots of great information here…
No wonder the top execs “grew legs” and “walked”…
https://m.facebook.com/hartleyconservation/?_se_imp=00gJCVSg3ID1S1V5D
This plan is a bust…
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2022/jul/5/nordic-aquafarms-announces-new-interim-president-f/
Really?
Or this happens…
This is how they “escape”…
https://salmonbusiness.com/overturned-truck-carried-8000-smolts-from-aquachile-locals-told-not-to-eat-the-lufenuron-treated-fish/
And these aren’t fit for consumption, but they were gathered by people to be consumed, after the spill…
Lufenuron huh?
They gonna pump that shit into the sea, as well?
Will this facility raise Atlantic Salmon to market size, or just to a size that will then be transferred to offshore farms, with their inherent problems?
What is the plan?
https://seawestnews.com/perils-and-promises-of-a-land-based-salmon-farmer/
It also seems like viruses could easily be transfered to our ecosystem on the bay, by water transfers via pumping systems.
Washington state has banned fish farms of non-native species, effective 2025, though the only leaseholder company’s lease runs out this year, so they will be no more.
What if a disgruntled employee set them loose?
they get fired and surf riders, Humboldt Bay watch, people for ethical treatment of salmon, EPIC …. file suit(s)
and what does that do? except provide a settlement of cash to pay for exaggerated legal fees and studies. there is not one corrective action those non-profits have performed. they just stop development and extort. literally no different than ADA suits by Jason. at the end of the day, the salmon gets out and ten years later there is a major ecological disaster. I am still wondering why this contaminated site is not on their hit list when it has known dioxins in the storm drain system and an unidentified solvent source impacting Humboldt Bay, not to mention the statements from previous employees related to dumping toxic waste in pits. as always integrity lacks.
That wont fix the problem.
Why not Pacific?
That have made a GMO Atlantic salmon that grows twice as fast
The one I read about was an Atlantic Salmon, genetically modified with Chinook genetics, an “eels” genetics, an Ocean Pout.
Don’t ask me! We are a commercial fishing family (though no longer salmon fishermen). I think it’s just wrong on so many levels.
12.5 million gallons of effluent daily, discharged int the Pacific Ocean, via the old discharge pipe.
10 million gallons a day, drawn in from the bay, with whatever marine life that will be included…
And 2 million gallons per day from Ruth Reservoir, Via Humboldt Bay Municipal Water District infrastructure.
(I’ve used 2.5 million gallons per day of fresh water from HBMWD, because the 10 million gpd of bay water consumed, plus the 2 million gpd of fresh water consumed that they claim, doesn’t add up to the 12.5 million gpd of effluent they are claiming.)
Sooo…
6.67 acre feet PER DAY
2800 acre feet per year, which is 5.83% of Ruth Reservoir’s entire 48,030 acre feet capacity.
I do realize that for some months Ruth Reservoir runs “over the top”…
I’d still like to know exactly what the finished farmed product will be, and where it will be destined for…
Will it vary?
Will it be available locally?
And at what price?
How will it be shipped?
Will it be shipped to Japan, destined for the high dollar market?
Or will it provide a domestic US supply, affordable for the average Joe?
As I have read, the input costs for land based farmed fish are 12 times the input costs for a net or cage , offshore or inlet based farmed fish…
12 times!
I think that will put this farmed fish out of reach, cost-wise for all but the wealthiest consumers…
And if this fish will not even be destined for the US, and or won’t be affordable for most, I must question it’s merit.
Especially if it will be competing with/or jeopardizing our other fish and/or fishermen.
If we haven’t already learned it, we should not be introducing viruses into our otherwise virus free ecosystems.
You know what I mean?
We don’t want “yellow mouth” virus, infecting our “yellow eyes”, or anything else…
Yep…
But they are not mentioning if it will be the GMO AquAdvantage Salmon…
And to be fair…
Here is a link to their Frequently Asked Questions page…
For what it’s worth…
https://nafnewsdesk.com/humboldt-faq/
At a time like this I would say lets get as much well regulated industry in Humboldt as possible. The last 4 years we have relied upon a down seriously struggling industry. Anything that helps to keep the food on the plate and doesnt sicken the population is welcome.
True that
really. what could go wrong with the government regulations in place ? they handle things so efficiently.
Clearly, you are not aware of the water quality regulation in the state of California. It is rigorous.
Will they be raising AquAdvantage® fish?
Yes or no?
I predict crickets…
🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
Clearly you are not aware of the kinds of potential problems that a leak from a BSL3 or a BSL4 facility can “spawn”…
Would you say that this Nordic Aqua Farms facility will be up to the same standards as a BSL3 or BSL4 facility?
I kinda don’t think so…
So, there is a high likelihood that viruses will likely escape from this facility.
Don’t kid yourself.
At a time like this I would say lets get as much well regulated industry in Humboldt as possible. The last 40 years we have relied upon a now seriously struggling industry. Anything that helps to keep the food on the plate and doesnt sicken the population is welcome.
Everyone agrees on that, but we dont all agree on what constitutes well regulated.
Water quality is well regulated.
Will they be raising AquAdvantage® fish?
Yes or no?
It’s a GMO.
GMO’s are prohibited from being raised in Humboldt County.
I would wager you are not going to answer that question.
🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
friends don’t let friends eat farmed fish
don’t have very many if any friends ?
But farmed raised beef, pork, poultry, lamb, birds, fowl, oysters, sushi stuffins, escargot, emu, mushrooms, vegetables in hydroponics (oh, the horror), bison, shrimp, alligator, etc., etc. is o.k.? Farmed fish is not mutant. Just raised in controllable, sanitary and humane environment for quality results. Think of fish hatcheries, haven’t heard of any protests or public outcry there. If you happen to wet a line in any stream, river or lake, you have eaten farmed fish! Yummy huh?
Farmed fish can be GMO.
“AquAdvantage Salmon was developed by Massachusetts-based AquaBounty Technologies.”
“The fish grow twice as fast as conventionally farmed Atlantic salmon because of the addition of genes from a Chinook salmon and an eel known as an ocean pout.”
That’s “mutant” as far as I am concerned.
All this for for pet food. Who in his/her/it’s right mind would eat this fish crap ?
I’m with you, wild caught fish easy to come by locally and tastes superior
and is on decline
You shouldn’t shop for dinner at the pet store.
It will use a huge amount of electricity. They can call it “green”, but it will have a high carbon footprint per pound of delivered food.
Will the outlet for the offshore waste disposal pipe be a fishing hotspot or a nasty continuous sewage stream (or both)?
It will most likely be a candidate for the use of the offshore wind farm, eventually…
If everyone hasn’t figured it out yet, the giant PG&E power line right of way swath clearing, is just preparing for the eventual transmission lines, that will be distributing the electricity, that will eventually be produced by the wind farm…
Those transmission lines are gonna look great going through E-burg Junction, no?
Don’t say I didn’t tell you so…
Because,I just told you, and nobody told me so, I just put 2 and 2 together.
There is PG&E method to what just appears to be madness…
You see, that wind farm lease will have the potential to generate 1600-1800 megawatts, with no way to distribute it yet…
Humboldt uses about 150 megawatts tops, from the Humboldt Bay Generating Station…
There is about 75 megawatts of other transmission infrastructure coming into Humboldt.
We are going to potentially need up to 1600-1800 megawatts of transmission infrastructure, eventually, in association with the wind farm lease.
I can hear those transmission lines humming already, running in many directions… Probably mostly completely bypassing Humboldt, too.
You heard it first, here, on Red Headed Black Belt.
Mark my words.
Wind turbine blade cleaner should pay well. College degree probably required. Courses in turbine blade cleaning technology at Cal Poly next year.
Humboldt should get royalties for exporting this
Yeah the windmill power isn’t for Humboldt but it f***so up our fishing. A few jobs are good but is it worth the damage to our fishing?
solar collectors on the roof
ALL food has a high carbon footprint per pound of delivered food. just sayin
Nope. When you export food to foreign nations rather than producing food for domestic consumption, the carbon footprint is much higher.
Some people are just clueless about aquaculture. ‘Franken fish’. Really?
fear tactics
triploids?
“In order to make the fish sterile AquAdvantage salmon eggs are treated with pressure, to create batches of fish eggs with three copies of each chromosome (triploid) rather than to two copies (diploid). Any batch that contains 5 percent or more diploid fish, is destroyed because these diploid fish are capable of reproducing.[8]”
Less than 5% diploids is ok?
Miguel,
Clueless? Really?
You don’t know what “Franken fish” means?
And so you are just offended…
Is that a little “pout” on your face?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-aquabounty-salmon-genetically-modified-food-1.3589613
The larger fish is a GMO “Franken fish”…
A genetically modified Chinook salmon, by inserting genes from an eel, the “Ocean Pout”.
Yum Yum…
We probably don’t want any of those escaping and breeding with our Native Chinooks.
Not even one…
Not even one fertilized “Franken fish” salmon egg.
That would be a total disaster.
Not worth the risk.
Actually a genetically modified Atlantic Salmon modified with Chinook salmon growth regulator genetics and Ocean Pout genetics…
Sorry about the error…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AquAdvantage_salmon
“The typical growth hormone-regulating gene in the Atlantic salmon was replaced with the growth hormone-regulating gene from Pacific Chinook salmon, with a promoter sequence from ocean pout. This gene enables the GM salmon to grow year-round instead of only during spring and summer.[1]”
They saw the movie..
I’m glad you were able to explain this vary serious situation.
Pay attention people!
Is this frankenfish day? I seem to have seen that
screen shot before…
Can you post it again, I can’t figure out why that person is wearing 2 different color gloves. Maybe it will change the third time..
It didn’t seem to have sunk in.
Call it my one satirical screenshot, in addition to an informational screenshot.
So?, they are the same…
Big deal…
Stop “pout”ing…
(In this case the Pout’s upper lip hangs over the lower lip)
Occam’s Razor…
Two different people, grey fox… 🤦♂️
That or a set of Siamese twins…
Kinda a wide stance for one person, isn’t it?
Looks like a man and a woman to me, one big tattooed right arm, and kind of a fair, skinny, un-tattooed left arm…
That’s at least a yardstick…
“Franken Shoulders”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_pout
Notice the upper lip extending over the lower lip?
Not a good look.
Read a book, any book !
Expand the mind and learn about life and how it works.
It’s fascinating
Books?! I don’t need no stinking books! (I’m special)
Regarding the outflow discharge issue. A study might be done by releasing environmentally safe coloring to determine the actual flow and how it is directed by tides and currents. I’m old enough to remember the huge mounds of foam on the peninsula beach that occurred when the pulp mill was discharging its waste water and chemicals via the outfall pipe. There was a lawsuit by the Surfrider group that addressed the issue
I can see it now…
Yellow mouthed surfers, from an escaped Nordic Aqua Farms fish virus…
Or our Native Pacific Chinooks and Coho, and Steelhead, not to mention the occasional “Humpy”, Sockeye, and “White King”, (also a Chinook), getting the “yellow mouth” virus, from the Nordic Aqua Farms effluent discharge…
Yep let’s risk unleashing another virus into our ecosystem again!
Have we learned nothing form COVID-19???
Yes “we’ve” learned but capitalism and the profit motive haven’t. Doesn’t look like it’s gonna.
Surfriders won thats why the drain pipe got doubled in length to put the crap out into currents that drag it a little farther away from the breaks.
Glad I got to live here before it became “ Hum Angela’s “
I hope Humboldt embraces some new jobs instead of chasing them away like they have done for decades. It’s very frustrating seeing potential business opportunities being shot down because local people are opposed to growth. We need jobs and a future for our children and growing pot isn’t that future.
Its difficult because other regions are willing to allow environmental destruction in order to secure those jobs. It is important that some places resist this and demand that industry operate ethically.
What sucks is…
Sacrificing entire ecosystems in the neverending quest for the almighty dollar…
?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/potential-midwestern-farms-struggle-market-fish-86150432
Wow, on point. That link is from today!
How was it on point? They don’t have enough processing capability. That is not an issue here. Did you read the EIR? Most of your concerns are handled in that document.
It from today.
Cutting edge news…
The most recent.
The most relevant.
Understand?
On point.
Out front.
Most accurate.
You do know that they tried to get away with a MND, don’t you?
How shady is that?
And I read about the periodic air blast, that will clean the intake screens…
That will likely attract fish to the area, which will then likely be compromised when the intakes start drawing water again, in a vicious sort of cycle…
I could see how this could result in a sort of free feeding system, using macerated bay life, as a feed source.
An underwater camera to monitor the “process” would be very “revealing”, I’m sure…
Will they be raising any other seafood, besides fish?
They aren’t really revealing those details, are they?