34 New Cases, JIC to Report Case Counts Three Days a Week Starting Monday

novel coronavirus Covid-19 HumboldtPress release from Humboldt County Public Health:

Humboldt County Public Health reported today 34 new positive cases of COVID-19, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in the county to 19,492. No new hospitalizations or deaths were reported.

Beginning Monday, Feb. 28, the Joint Information Center (JIC) will issue Case Count news releases and Data Dashboard updates three times a week instead of five. Those will be issued Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays with the goal of moving to once weekly updates as Humboldt County transitions from a pandemic to an endemic response.

Also starting Monday, the JIC Call Center will be closed from noon to 1 p.m. for lunch. Its hours will be 8 a.m.to noon and 1 to 5 p.m.

Since the last data update on Feb. 18, the county has recorded 372 new cases of COVID-19. Two deaths of residents, one unvaccinated and another fully vaccinated, were reported. Five new hospitalizations due to COVID-19 were also reported. Three were unvaccinated and two were fully vaccinated. Age ranges of reported hospitalizations during that period are as follows:

  • 1 person in their 60s
  • 1 person in their 70s
  • 3 people aged 80 or older.

Severe outcomes from COVID-19 continue to be higher among unvaccinated individuals. The graphs below depict average weekly case rates and weekly hospitalizations and deaths in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated local residents.

Chart showing hospitalizations and deaths by vaccination status since May 2021. Unvaccinated hospitalizations start at six, rising steadily to 280 as of mid-February 2022. Fully vaccinated hospitalizations started at zero in May, climbing to 73 in mid-February 2022. Unvaccinated deaths climbed from 0 to 57, and fully vaccinated deaths started at 0 and end at 18 as of mid-February 2022.

As depicted in the graph above for the period from May 30, 2021 to Feb. 13, 2022, 18 deaths of fully vaccinated Humboldt County residents from COVID-19 were reported. The average age of those deaths was 79. During that same period, 57 deaths of unvaccinated residents were reported. The average age of those deaths was 67. During that same period, 73 fully vaccinated residents were hospitalized with an average age of 73. An additional 280 unvaccinated individuals were hospitalized with an average age of 59. View a more detailed depiction of the hospitalization and death rates graph here.

The current seven-day average case rate in Humboldt County is approximately 31, meaning that for every 100,000 residents, approximately 31 tested positive daily over the last seven days. Case rates vary considerably by vaccination status, as illustrated in the graph below, which depicts average weekly case rates since January 2021 in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated residents.

Chart showing case rates (per 100,000 residents) since February 2021 with the unvaccinated case rate at eight, vaccinated at zero. Unvaccinated case rates drop to 4 in April, climb to 24 in mid-May, while vaccinated case rates never exceeded three. On June 15, when COVID restrictions were lifted, the unvaccinated case rate was 13 and vaccinated case rate was one. Then by mid-July, cases for everyone began to climb. The local case rate for unvaccinated people rose to a high of 79 residents per 100,000, declined to 18, and then went up to 145 in January, but has since gone down again to 22. The case rate for fully vaccinated individuals reached a high of 30 in early August and declined to 6 before increasing to 12, up to 153 and down again to 23.

The most recent seven-day average case rate for the period ending Feb. 13, is 23 per 100,000 residents for fully vaccinated and 22 per 100,000 residents for unvaccinated individuals. View a more detailed depiction of the case rate graph here.

Residents, particularly those who are unvaccinated, are urged to continue to take protective measures against COVID-19 by washing hands frequently, socially distancing, wearing a well-fitted mask and avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces.

CDPH recommends individuals stay home and away from others and get tested if they become sick or experience COVID-19 symptoms that may include fever, cough, shortness of breath, fatigue or muscle aches.

Two Public Health vaccination clinics will be held Saturday in Eureka, one at College of the Redwoods and another at the United Methodist Church. There will be PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come, first-served basis at the College of the Redwoods clinic. No testing will be offered at the United Methodist Church site. PCR testing is also available at the Wharfinger Building in Eureka seven days a week.

Vaccines remain readily available and, as always, Humboldt County’s vaccination and testing services are available free of charge. While walk-ins are allowed at all Public Health clinics and some pharmacy vaccination sites, appointments are recommended for all vaccinations and are the best way to ensure a shot is available during your visit. Appointments can be made at MyTurn.ca.gov.

Vaccines, including boosters, are available at local pharmacies. To check the availability of a specific vaccine, visit the vaccines.gov page, or text your ZIP code to 438829 to locate a nearby pharmacy offering vaccines.

See the schedule below for specific Public Health vaccination and testing clinic dates, times, locations and available services. Questions about clinic services can be directed to the Joint Information Center at 1-707-441-5000.

Eureka — Saturday, Feb. 26, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
College of the Redwoods Gym Lobby (7351 Tompkins Hill Road)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations recommended.

Eureka — Saturday, Feb. 26, 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.
United Methodist Church (1901 F St.)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No testing available
Appointments for vaccinations recommended.

Eureka — Monday, Feb. 28, 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Ages 12 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No testing available
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments recommended.

Eureka — Tuesday, Mar. 1, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No testing available
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments recommended.

Willow Creek — Tuesday, Mar. 1, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Office (77 Walnut Way)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments for vaccinations recommended.

Eureka — Wednesday, Mar. 2, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Humboldt County Agriculture Building (5630 S. Broadway)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations recommended.

Blue Lake — Thursday, Mar. 3, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Blue Lake Resource Center (111 Greenwood Road)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations recommended.

Eureka — Friday, Mar. 4, 1 to 8 p.m.
Wharfinger Building (1 Marina Way)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No rapid testing available at this clinic.
PCR testing offered through OptumServe by appointment on the lower floor of the Wharfinger Building.
Appointments for vaccinations recommended.

View the Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download data from a previous time. For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 1-707-441-5000.

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov
Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard
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grey fox
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4 years ago

Brilliant lady

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

The difference in unvaccinated to vaccinated hospitalization is striking. Also the difference in ages stands out…

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Looks like we’ve beat the Wuhan Flu but lost Ukraine in the green war on fossil fuels.

And why are we importing 500,000 barrels/day of oil from Russia when we’ve got domestic resources?

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Tim
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Tim
4 years ago

Hi MLR, I’d like to introduce you to the idea of a global marketplace. Big oil companies import oil from Canada, OPEC, and other places while at the same time exporting petroleum products produced in the US because…..they can make a shit-ton of money doing it. Basically it’s cheaper to import crude from places like Russia and export refined products like gasoline to Mexico.

It’s why the US President has virtually no direct control over gas prices at the pump unless he decides to temporarily increase supply by releasing oil from the petroleum reserve. But that only works if we’re short of crude oil and only for a little while.

If your point is that we should stop the oil from Russia, I agree. It will mean gas prices will go up as a result because, well, that’s what happens to prices when supply tightens and demand stays constant or rises.

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Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

The US doesn’t use its domestic production because of EPA requirements for reifinement. Prices on crude are set in the commodities markets not by oil companies.

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Technically they could use domestic crude for refinement of domestic products, it’s just cheaper for them not to.

And I’m pretty sure big oil, along with the speculators, are the major players in the commodities market for crude. But your point is taken.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Once again, Joe Bidens Green policy requires high fuel prices, ole Joe knows what he is doing. Go green! Make the poor ,poorer, maybe jack minimum wage another 5 bucks so they can afford fuel, crack me up. We the people- kid rock , truth hurts.

RightSideOfTheMatter
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RightSideOfTheMatter
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

I’m still curious why President Biden* is against a North American Pipeline but was for a Russian pipeline.

Also curious why he’s concerned with Ukraine’s borders but not America’s.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

“And I’m pretty sure big oil, along with the speculators, are the major players in the commodities market for crude”

LOL

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

So what your saying , is the president would have to be smarter than oil company executives in order to keep fuel prices down. Joe Bidens Green policy requires high fuel prices Tim, just tell the truth Tim. Don’t be ashamed of being a Democrat, wear it proud, Go Green! Who cares about seniors on fixed incomes , go green!

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

I’m not a Democrat, never have been.

Oil company executives aren’t interested in low fuel prices, they are interested in maximizing their profits which occurs when the price differentials are high.

The Green energy policies will eventually drive energy costs down. The transition will be expensive, as all transitions are.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

In what world does handing your energy security to Russia, and your manufacturing security to China make sense.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Who cares about wheat but what if China cut us off from Taiwan Semiconductor, source for 90% of our complex chips? Lose 90% of our chips and our economy would crash.

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

A) we haven’t handed energy security to Russia. They account for only a small fraction of US oil consumption.

B) we get stuff manufactured in China because it’s cheaper and consumers demand cheap shit.

In both cases the answer is simple — pay attention to what you spend your money on and if it’s from somewhere you don’t like, don’t buy it.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Maybe check out Joe’s town hall answers from February, by mid February he talks that nobody should go to jail for having or using cocaine, meth or any drug, just agree to rehab. Just keep agreeing to rehab . Early February was his green policy Tim, price Americans out of fossil fuels and electric is the only answer. After mid Feb drug policy ,I quit watching him, this world has enough worthless druggies , no need to encourage more. The working class has had enough, we the people- kid rock.

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Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Legalize all drugs, make it a public health issue.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Jim Brickley

The 20 years and $1 trillion spent on the War on Drugs sure as hell didn’t work.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

“I’m not a Democrat, never have been.”

Socialist/communist? Then you are a democrat.

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Not a Socialist or Communist either.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Sorry I called you such a bad word, just trying to find someone to stand for the guy they voted for, can’t seem to find anyone.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

If I remember correctly, you said it was because of kids in cages. Now we have kids dying from fentanyl.
Are you happy with the solution?
Would you vote for Biden again?
Trump just said he’s running again, the question is against whom?

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I would vote for Mitt Romney, or even Mike Pence over Biden, especially with Kamala Harris “waiting in the wings”, If Biden Even makes it to the next election, let alone “runs”, and his running mate is Kamala Harris, Biden needs to lose, bigly.

Let’s just hope it’s not Trump that it running against him, Trump belongs in Leavenworth, indefinitely, he is guilty of much worse, than the Redbearded Burglar.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

In reality the President has limited powers. It’s Congress and the Senate that passes big legislation. And they in turn seem to be influenced by lobbyists and big corporations money. Until there is a big turnover in both houses we are not going to see any real change.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

?
I can’t wait to hear Kerry explain how it’s cleaner to transport oil across the ocean from Russia, and why he doesn’t think Russia could cut us off, just like he can do to the EU.
Meanwhile Heinz has raised it’s prices.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Resisting Heinz raising it’s prices is futile, and is just playing a game of catch-up.

Coffee, is still, fortunately constant and consistent, and hasn’t lost any stimulating qualities, with no bitterness, even when really steamed, just slightly overheated by the associated cost of gas.

rollin
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rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

“It’s why the US President has virtually no direct control over gas prices at the pump”

Uhhh, yes, he does, obviously. Cancelling pipelines and stopping further exploration RAISES PRICES! New regulations on emissions and every other thing related to the fossil fuel industry RAISE PRICES! Taxes RAISE PRICES! 
                                   

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  rollin

You clearly lack any understanding of how gas prices work.

The Keystone XL pipeline would not have contributed anything to US supply — it was solely intended to move Canadian oil sands product to the port of New Orleans for export.

The President hasn’t stopped any exploration, he stopped giving out new leases because the vast majority of old leases on public land hadn’t been exploited yet. It’s kind of stupid to keep granting leases at very low prices when they are being bought solely for speculation.

Most gas taxes are state taxes, not federal ones.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

That 100 year supply of oil in eastern Texas wouldn’t help either, right?

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

You truly believe Biden’s policies haven’t increased our cost for energy? No, I mean REALLY?

Joe Mota
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Joe Mota
4 years ago

You are sadly misinformed. Oil imports from Russia last year totaled 17 million barrels. Oil companies are free to import oil form the cheapest sources, which explains why a US refiner would import Russian crude.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

I do see varying numbers on Google that confuse but says 17 million barrels in November ’21 alone, obviously much more for the year. Much less on years earlier.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago

The US uses about 20 million barrels a day.

local observer
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local observer
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

here are the oil import stats from 1973 to 2021. we are currently importing 500,000 barrels a day from Russia which you can google. FOX News was even discussing it 1 day ago which pops up on google. Ending the 20 year war will bring that number way down but everyone wants to drive a V-8. The US has never been oil independent. We imported ~2.2 billion barrels in 2021 which is lower than previous years.
petr.pdf (census.gov)

local observer
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local observer
4 years ago
Reply to  local observer

2004 during the war was the highest at ~3.8 billion barrels. this chart also gives to cost per barrel for each month of each year which is interesting.

I like stars
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I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

The more detailed graph is worth a look…

https://humboldtgov.org/DocumentCenter/View/104845/COVIDrates_InfoGraphic—20220224

I wish I could post the image instead of the link, but it is a pdf file not a jpeg, and I don’t know how to get it to display here.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Remember also your just looking at Humboldt County data. Nation wide different story,
“Covid-19 is killing more people now than during most of the pandemic. Here’s who’s still at risk The people dying from Covid-19 now tend to be younger than before, and they’re overwhelmingly unvaccinated, experts say.”

“I’ve long since lost track of the number of people I’ve seen die of the disease, but the reality is that almost everybody who is critically ill, in the ICU or dying now remains unvaccinated

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/24/health/covid-deaths-now-younger-unvaccinated/index.html

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

SWITCHEROO!

(That’s a rerun, too, by the way).

Just an FYI.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Nothing like a link full of tracking tags, to a CNN article, and an anecdotal horror claim, to prove a point

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Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Lamedemic is over, only reporting cases 3 times a week, we have hit normal flu numbers. Covid only killing people that are already on their way out. Had it, was a joke.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Isn’t the most recent Humboldt covid hospitalization rate less than 0.001%? Riskier driving to the lake.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago

Ain’t that the truth.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

I just posted it down a few comments… Check it out…

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Here ya go, my pleasure!

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

I totally agree,

Good catch!

It should be totally stunning to everyone, that for the week ending February 13th, 2022 the separation between the vaccinated hospitalizations and the unvaccinated hospitalizations, is the lowest it’s ever been, only 1.8 times as many unvaxxed hospitalizations as vaxxed hospitalizations.

1.8 TIMES, IS ALL!!!???

THAT’S LESS THAN TWO TIMES!!!???

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SUPPOSED VACCINE EFFICACY AGAINST HOSPITALIZATION !!!???

IT TANKED!!!???

GREAT LOOKING OUT GREY FOX!!

I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THAT HAD I ONLY LOOK AT THE CUMULATIVE HOSPITALIZATIONS GRAPH!

NO WONDER THEY SIFTED TO THAT GRAPH, AND AWAY FROM THE OTHER GRAPH IN THE MORE DETAILED DEPICTION! THE OLD GRAPH IS MUCH TOO REVEALING!

BUT THEY CANT OUT-FOX OLD GREY FOX, NOW CAN THEY?

NO WAY! GOOD JOB!

0.5 VAXXED TO 0.9 UNVAXXED!!!

YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, GREY FOX, WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!

THAT IS TOTALLY STRIKING!!!

I’LL HAVE TO POST A SCREENSHOT IN MY NEXT COMMENT!

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Here y’all go…

Vaccination is Not Really Looking So Good Against Hospitalizations For The Last Week… What Has Happened !!!???

You sure are right Grey Fox!

The vaccine efficacy against even HOSPITALIZATIONS, is not only waning, it’s totally tanking!

You’re the man, Grey Fox!

0.9 unvaxxed, to 0.5 vaxxed, hospitalizations?

That’s it!?

That’s all!?

That is STRIKING !!!

It should be way more than that, shouldn’t it!?

I would have totally missed that if you hadn’t mentioned it!!!

IT’S STRIKING, ALL RIGHT,
THAT’S FOR DAMN SURE!

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Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

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I like stars
Guest
I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Thanks Guest. I couldn’t figure out how to post it, but everyone should see it. They say the emperor has some spiffy new clothes, but I can’t see them. I can, however, even after Covid, smell a load of bullshit.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Aw, shucks, my pleasure, you’re very welcome.

I tell you what, I knew this was coming as soon as they shifted this graph to the classified section and put the cumulative graph on the front page, in it’s place.

And here you have the reason, because they knew this was coming too, and this is their effort to conceal it.

Brace yourself for the next couple of weeks, the Ukraine thing is designed to distract us from the truth about the vaccine, becoming glaringly apparent during that timeframe.

The Real Brian
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Mongering conspiracies and doesn’t know where Chernobyl is.

Just another day.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Why has the CDC withheld vaccine efficacy data from the public? What they call “curating” is a form of censorship and a lack of transparency. Then again, Biden and the CDC have been all in with vaccines from the start to the detriment of therapeutics that could have saved half the Americans lost.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

Location Maps – Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, Ivankiv Raion, Kiev Oblast, Ukraine
Latitude & Longitude (WGS84):51° 23′ 18” North , 30° 6′ 5” East. Easy to find if you know anything about map reading.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Careful TRB. Remember what TH said, we have the ability to make peoples heads explode.
???

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Who’s asking where Chernobyl is located?

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago

No one is, no one did, they are both ganging up, messing with me, over the content of a previous commitment I made, again, still, with no repercussions.

Nooo
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Nooo
4 years ago

Conspiracists never give up their love of conspiracies. At best they just move on to new ones to feed their addiction. While never quit letting the old ones go.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

You got that right..On and on and on..Really unhealthy mentally..and stressing over things can also lead to physical problems..

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
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Nooo
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Nooo
4 years ago

Sigh. The point was not that the CDC had unpublished data but that it means something nefarious. Whether Fox, NYT or anyone else reported it is a thing that causes doubt.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

By “nefarious” do you mean withholding data that shows covid boosters don’t help 18-49 year old individuals? Israel data the same.

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Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
4 years ago

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Attention, Kym,
I find the comment intentionally offensive, I do not monger, and I am not a monger, and it’s the the connotation of being a “mongoloid”, or a “retard”, or a “window licker” or a “spaz”, or “mentally challenged”. Its definition number 2 in the urban dictionary that I find most offensive.

I won’t go into the other unsavory details.

Even the “explanation” in the “regular dictionary” is rather unsavory.

If he meant to say “peddling”, he would have just said that.

That wouldn’t have offended me.

Mongering, however,
I would prefer if it was not directed towards me.

How’s that for tapping it back?

Thank you for your consideration.

Please post my comments or not at your discretion, some are only meant for you to please consider, and not necessarily to post.

I trust your judgement.

Respectfully, Guest.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Attention: Kym,

And this is not so savory, either…

I protest.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I object.

Did you miss the connotation from the Urban dictionary definition that implies “retard” and most directly “mongoloid”?
(from which the word is derived).

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I object.

Are you OK with the connotation that I also posted from the Urban Dictionary where it is defined as:

“2) Mong•er: a mentally challenged person, retard, spaz, mongoloid (from which the word is derived)?

You’re OK with that, now, all of a sudden, as long as it’s directed towards me?

You didn’t used to be.

I find it offensive, and I believe it was intentional. It was a direct unprovoked personal attack, pointedly, directed at me, during my conversation, which was not with him.

And he added nothing to the conversation, except derogatory comments if not what could be easily construed as unacceptably offensive direct insults.

Tell me, what was the point?

How did it add to the conversation?

Indirectly implying not only that I am geographically challenged, that I’m also a mentally challenged person retard, spaz, mongoloid, and/or careless or deceptive?

How is all of that “within the rules”?

It was more “pointed” than it was, “pointless”.

I appeal your decision.

It should be reconsidered.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Settled. I wasn’t sure if you’d seen both definitions is all.

Thanks for the consideration.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest
grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

You have to believe in yourself.”
Sun Tzu

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

“Why do we close our eyes when we pray, cry, kiss or dream? Because the most beautiful things in life are not seen but felt by the heart.” …Denzel Washington

grey fox
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4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Good one

Joe Mota
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Joe Mota
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

What you [edit] don’t seem to understand is that there are 3 vaccinated people to very 1 unvaccinated. If the case rate was 2 unvaccinated for every 1 vaccinated it would indicate that unvaccinated people are 6 times more likely to get sick from covid. [edit]

Al L Ivesmatr
Guest
Al L Ivesmatr
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

Hmmm, there is that anti vaxxer tag again. Too bad those who label cannot get their story straight. Kinda like the catchall phrase “you racist.” I would suggest for now on those against the wuhan flu still experimental shot be called “those in the know against real time human experimentation using still unapproved experimental vaccines.” Natural selection, it’s what for breakfast, I just got my tetanus shot a month ago to reup my immunity to rusty nails and splinters. I love real vaccines that are ironclad proven to work. Thanks for your time.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

How do you figure?

65 ish% fully vaxxed to 35% unxaxxed would be less than 2 to 1, Joe Mota, not 3 to 1.

We are not yet at 75% fully vaccinated, and that is the point at which your , 3 to 1 statement would be true, and it’s not looking good for 75% fully vaccinated at any point in 2022, at all.

Check back for “75%”, in 2023.

And as far as your “case rate” nonsense is concerned, those case rates, that are, by the way, higher for the vaxxed, than for the unvaxxed, (22.5 to 22), are already
compensated for, adjusted per capita, respectively.

You should be more cautious, and double check, before casting inaccurate aspersions, in order to be taken seriously.

[edit]

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

They?
That’s a crock.?

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
Guest
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

Presented data are case rates. I presume it’s per 100,000 either vaccinated or unvaccinated, not total population.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago

“Joe” knows that mlr.

“Joe” isn’t really, “Joe”,

“Joe”, is just “almost” insulting me, in order to bait me, into insulting him back, so that I get moderated. An old “BeetleJuice”, or whatever else his, “nom de jour”, is today.

“Joe” is just another “Mythical” “reincarnation”. They are clearly one and the same. I knew it then, and I know it now.

He probably gets a big kick out of “fooling” everyone.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank you. I will never intentionally do what Guest is suggesting. I have way to much respect for you and your website. If I have made mistakes in the past they are just that, mistakes. Not some nefarious plot

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
Guest
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Always seems there’s two feeding the banter, two way street you might say

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

Your missing the point

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
Guest
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Methinks thou complains too much

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’m not the one that called anyone a nitwit. I was on the receiving end of that.

If everyone’s identities don’t maintain credibility, no one’s does.

Don’t blame me for doubting any of them if they can’t all be trusted to maintain their identity within reason.

And would it really be impossible for someone to deceive you?

And the white rabbit thing?

How is that “sticking with the issues”, any more than I did.
It isn’t, not one bit, yet, no repercussions.

You should have seen that comment before he pulled the switcheroo.

It happens all the time. It’s instigation, and antagonization, mixed with deception.

At least I am straightforward.

And did my animal story get deleted? I can’t seem to find it anywhere. He asked me about the Album lepores I hadn’t seen, and I told him about the asinus asinorum vulpes in indumentis, I had seen.

I try and stick with the issues.

But like I’ve said, if someone hits it over the net my way, it’s coming back over, hot, with extra added spin, or maybe with an overly exaggerated feint, and just a little
bitty tap, back where it came from, to the best of my ability. Especially, if it’s served my way, in an underhanded, deceptive, and unsportsmanlike manner, “ala white rabbit”, or some other such nonsense especially when they are playing doubles against me, playing single.

That is what should be disqualified.

RightSideOfTheMatter
Guest
RightSideOfTheMatter
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

Meanwhile, in the US armed forces, the vaccinated sheep are realizing that they are going to have to fight President Biden’s* WWIII without the unvaccinated lions leading the way.

Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

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Lone Ranger
Guest
Lone Ranger
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Vaxx ain’t worth a sheet health wise, but sure made a ton of money. Crack me up, who paid for that? Who made that decision? Same ole same ole , still be led around by a circus.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
Guest
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

They loaded $6 trillion of debt on America’s back. Rates get back to normal and interest alone on 6T is $300 billion a year. Where’s $300B come from? These deep state con artists really sold us down the river this time (again).

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Joe Mota
Guest
Joe Mota
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

What you don’t seem to understand is that there are 3 vaccinated people to every one unvaccinated. If vaccines were ineffective you’d expect 3 times more cases among vaccinated people. The more telling number is hospitalizations, which is people who get really sick.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

The numbers were listed in the article 73 vaccinated hospitalized, 280 unvaccinated hospitalized. The CDC has published data showing vaccines are effective against serious disease and hospitalization nation wide..

I even posted an article showing nation wide ,more hospitalizations and death among the unvaccinated. People just see what they want to see.
And a weeks worth of data? Reminds me of a drowning man grasping at straws

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

That’s less than 4 to 1

As far as the state info you claim, you previous claimed “boosted” “12 to 1”.

I only found it to be “10.5 to 1”, on the link you provided.

Like I asked you the last time that you showed this very vague info…

Since when?

And,

Screen shot please?

The link that you provided just led to an endless rabbit hole maze.

No thanks.

How about Humboldt Covid19 Deaths since October 25th, 2021?
(Data compiled from 2-18 -2022)

Unvaxxed deaths only 5.38 times the unvaxxed.

For the last two months? 5.75 X
For the last month, 4.5X

What say you, about that.?

You claimed Boosted Hospitalizations were 12 times the unvaxxed, statewide, but never provided a screenshot of that, and never answered the question, I asked you..

“Since When?”

How have Hospitalizations in Humboldt been looking lately, Grey Fox?

In specific terms, please, not vague ones.

Thank you.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

That right, 5.38 times. Since
10-25-2021, as of 2-6-2022, from the 2-18-2022 report.

Any questions?

You still doubt me?

Is that even wise?

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

“Unvaxxed deaths only 5.38 times the unvaxxed”?

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Real tough to unravel, right?

Did it “stump” you?

It’s not exactly “Enigma” material, and neither is the fact that you are blatantly breaking the rules, “quite intentionally”, I might add.

It’s called a typo, and you know it, and ridiculing me for a grammattical error is against the rules. And you know it.

You know, the same rules that 7 short minutes prior to this comment of yours, and 9 or ten comments above you, “promised” you “would never break intentionally because you have so much respect for Kym and her website”, and “your mistakes”, were “just mistakes”, Not some nefarious plot…

blah blah blah… blah blah blah…

What a load of obviously insincere disengenuious manipulative disrespectful horseshit.

Crude, but effective.

You’re being a grammar Nazi, and that is against the rules, and you know it.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Am I missing something?

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Yep, your third offense.,

And in you comment below, you’re missing you’re second offense.

Two comments above this one, is your first offense, which happens to also be the offense that you repeated twice, and deleted twice.

But you would “never do what Guest is suggesting”, you, have way too much respect for Kym and her website, an if you “have made mistakes in the past they are just that, mistakes”. And,
“Not some nefarious plot”

So why all the identical repeating of rules violations, and the multiple erasing of the evidence of it?
You’d never do it?
Too much respect?
Mistakes are just mistakes?
Not some nefarious plot?

(I have screenshots of many of them)

(I’m sure there are many more than I’ve missed.)

Sure Grey Fox. You’re totally innocent right?

“Unvaxxed deaths only 5.38 times the unvaxxed”,

is pretty easy to decipher into it’s intended meaning, that since 10-25-2021, in Humboldt,

“Unvaxxed deaths only 5.38 times the vaxxed.”

So why did you feel it was necessary to ridicule me, at all, about it, why did you feel it was necessary to repeat it multiple times, and why did you feel it was necessary also, to delete your comments multiple times after leaving them posted for extended periods of time, in an effort as if to conceal them?

And I have to wonder why Kym just let them remain, unedited, and still one remains?

Are you going to hurry up and delete the first one as well to conceal it?

Or did you wait to long?

Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

?

rollin
Guest
rollin
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Yes

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

“The link that you provided just led to an endless rabbit hole maze”

See any White Rabbits down there?

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
Guest
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Is that omicron or delta?

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

What you don’t seem to understand is, that for the last week’s hospitalizations report, adjusted per capita, there were less than 2 times as many unvaxxed hospitalizations, as there were, vaxxed hospitalizations.

It was actually only 1.8 times as many, and that is clearly shown, Joe Mota.

AND, The 22.5 vaxxed cases to 22 unvaxxed cases DOES indicate that the vaccines are totally ineffective against infection, and worse.

Just FYI.

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Nooo
Guest
Nooo
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

When every one who is unvaccinated has survived their first bout of covid (or not as the case may be,) the case and hospitalization levels will come closer between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Because unvaccinated status does not change just because they survived but their risk from it does, eventually the advantage vaccination gives will disappear. For vaccinated people, the efficacy in PREVENTING infection recedes and they still are aging into a higher risk category. As older people have much higher rates of vaccination, it will be likely at some point soon vaccinated people will record higher hospitalizations and deaths than unvaccinated. But it does not mean what anti vaxxers like to say- that a ‘natural ‘ immune system is superior to vaccination. It just means the most like to die in their cohorts will have done so and will no longer count in the current cases or hospitalizations.

There have been estimates recently that about 20% or so of the population still have an immune system that has been unexposed and with them vaccination could still make a difference. That twenty percent will drop each month. As they get vaccinated or die or get sick. But is it worth the dust that anti vaxxers stir up so much in excess of their reality anymore? I doubt it. Unless there is a sudden reversal in the mortality with another variant. They have mostly committed to their course and do not count the dead they left behind.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

NUMBER ONE, NOOO,

THE UNVACCINATED THAT DID NOT GET COVID19, (EXPOSED OR UNEXPOSED), UNQUESTIONABLY! AND I FIRMLY EMPHASIZE UNQUESTIONABLY!!,
DID NOT LEAVE ANY DEAD BEHIND! THAT’S 100% BULLSHIT!!

THAT IS A COMPLETELY FALSE, DISCRIMINATORY, MISLEADING, AND INFLAMMATORY STATEMENT!!! ITS TOTALLY NUTS!

NUMBER TWO, NOOO,
YOU CLAIM,

“EVENTUALLY THE ADVANTAGE OF VACCINATION WILL DISAPPEAR”

REALLY? YOU DON’T SAY?

WILL THEY STOP VACCINATING THEN? HOW ABOUT THE KIDS?
WILL THAT STOP THEN?

IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN TO DISAPPEAR AND IS FADING FAST.

HOW LONG DO YOU GIVE IT UNTIL ITS NO LONGER AN “ADVANTAGE” AT ALL?
ITS ALREADY TRUE FOR CASES, HAS BEEN FOR MONTHS.

HOW LONG BEFORE NO ADVANTAGE AGAINST HOSPITALIZATION?

(I THINK THAT MIGHT CONVERGE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO)

AND HOW SOON FOR NO ADVANTAGE AGAINST DEATH?

SOON? A COUPLE MONTHS?

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

roger that, kym.

can do.

it’s just that anybody suggesting that unexposed, uninfected, unvaccinated, individuals, have somehow, in any way, shape or form, been responsible for leaving any dead behind, is just scapegoating in an attempt to frame the innocent, and that sort of thing makes my blood boil, and i believe is should be strongly discouraged, if not disallowed.

it’s totally false and inflammatory.

hence, it inflamed me.

(i really wasn’t yelling).

that’s like saying it was ever,

“a pandemic of the unvaccinated”,

in order to shift blame away from the fact that the vaccinations failed to stop the pandemic, like the were supposed to, but didn’t.

and we were all, therefore, just deceived into believing it was going to ever work, if we would only just all comply.

the big lie.

I detest deception.

guest

Nooo
Guest
Nooo
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Anyone who spreads misinformation- of which there are many examples here- I will read aloud while you follow along- as anti vaxxers are responsible for leaving dead behind. The rest of the hyper excitability you mention is internal, where you assume I blame the enexposed, etc, who may or may not be innocent, and is only in your mind. I try to give the unexposed an alternative to the relentless innuendo, pettifogging and outright lies of anti vaxxers. Your problem, not mine.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

What part of the uninfected have infected noone and could not possibly be responsible for any death, let alone “the death they do not count”, like you said.

Your suggestion is completely ludicrous, yet you maintain it, steadfastly.

It’s bizarre.

Gretchen loves Chechen
Guest
Gretchen loves Chechen
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Explain obesity, and lowered intelligence.

So you believe the vaccine is actually moving us forward or backward.

Sounds like the vaccine is not just the problem, but the solution as well.

Health should never be looked at through a hypodermic needle

Gretchen loves Chechen
Guest
Gretchen loves Chechen
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I thought you were simply In a crowded room, AND JUST WANTED TO BE HEARD.

or maybe since most people who comment daily, incessantly might need the capital letters to SEE.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago

Actually I was just emphasizing that it’s the cumulative graph that should be ignored, and it’s the weekly case graph that reflects current conditions that should be the information that is placed front and center, and that it was deceptive for the HCDPH to hide the current information, that now shows the vaxxed and unvaxxed hospitalizations, about to converge, just like what happened to the vaxxed vs unvaxxed case counts. They converged.

It was a very deceptive maneuver.

And for someone to claim that what the current information on the “front page”, cumulative graph, somehow shows, is that the vaccine EFFECTIVENESS is in any way “Striking”, then I felt that in the interest of balanced truth, I needed to make a counter claim, emphasizing the most current info, hidden deep within the report, and do that, by telling the absolute truth of the matter, that what the most current data clearly showed, is that it was actually how INEFFECTIVE the vaccines have become, that is what is so ‘STRIKING”.

And to post the hidden graph that so clearly illustrates it.

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Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

??

Nooo
Guest
Nooo
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Vaccination will be an advantage to those naive immune systems always. Eventually the number those with naive immune systems will be negligible. Maybe it will still be an advantage to those previously infected or vaccinated for a lon time. There is not enough clear data to know.

However that is a separate issue from putting massive effort in getting vaccines out to those who resist them. And for the most foolish of reasons. The point at which that effort is too costly for the benefit derived is- surprise, surprise – related to hospitalizations just like Public Health says. It is not a fixed date. But I suspect that it will be soon even in Humboldt County. I personally find it harder and harder to put effort into reasoning with the unreasonable but still see some, if less, value in it.

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Case, in point, or two.

Penguinn
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Don’t shout. I can’t hear you.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Penguinn

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Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

?

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
Guest
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

I get it, your point is natural immunity works as well as vaccination

Nooo
Guest
Nooo
4 years ago

Actually I, and this is more or less a personal belief, think it largely does. But there are two serious limitations to that- first you have to survive the disease to benefit from it and hope survival left no long term damage. Second, immunity acquired by such varies a lot, not only from individual to individual which is also true of vaccination, but the immunity can vary from barely effective to adequate based on the amount if exposure.

Then too there is the problem that a lot of people are fooled into thinking they have recovered from covid when all they had was a regular cold. Witness the number of times a person announce here they had covid many times or had it before it existed.

Prof. Quiz
Guest
Prof. Quiz
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

I wonder why this anomaly is occurring? Could it be . . . Nah, no possible connection.

Mind you, I just did a search and these popped up first. Do your own research. I am not a socialist by any means.

“This sudden jump in non-COVID-19 death-benefit claims was stunning and unexpected to life insurance analysts.”   

wsws.org/en/articles/2022/02/24/life-f24.html

Try looking up this topic:

Business Is Booming At Funeral Homes And Insurance Companies See Increase In Death Payouts

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Joe Mota
Guest
Joe Mota
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

When confronted by facts that run counter to your political beliefs, the truly blind drag out conspiracy theories.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

There is people on here who just love a good conspiracy theory. It makes them feel safe.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

You and your “new”, “old”, “buddy”, “Joe Mota”?

Pretty obvious.

An obvious set up and moderation trap…

Nice try…

The vaccine efficacy is simultaneously “waning” and “tanking”, Grey Fox.

Why continue to insist it’s “still very effective”, when one “combines”, “what it’s doing”, and “what it continues to do”, in “combination”, is just, simply, “wanking”?

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank you. This is getting out of hand, he keeps on about this. Not healthy at all. And watch all the excuses start. You have had to delete 2 of his comments today. He doesn’t seem to realize it’s him digging the hole, no one else

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

OK. Pent-up frustrations..

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, When you have a minute,

Speaking of “not helpful”.

Check this out. How is this not a problem?

Grammar Nazi rule breaking, in a ridiculing manner…

Not just once, but 3 times, about the same single comment of mine.

The first time was just, (30 minutes or so), before he pledged to you “I would never do what Guest is suggesting”, “I have way too much respect for you and your website”, “If I have made some mistakes in the past, they are just that, mistakes”.
“Not some nefarious plot”.

Then, just 7 short minutes after his “pledge” that he would never do so, he intentionally breaks the Grammar Nazi rule a second time, with, to borrow a phrase, his pledge now as the “Oreo Cookie”, “middle”.

(I mentioned something to you about him changing his comments to remove offensive content after the fact, and that you might not see, what I saw, making him appear innocent.)

Such was the case before the “story” that got me deleted.

How long does someone logged in have to modify a comment?

Indefinitely?

I get about a half hour.

Commenters logged in must get much longer, because…

Then he did it again, for the third time, but, this time, deleting the exact same Grammar Nazi rule violation, from a previous violation, that he then reposted for a third time, as a new comment. Twice after his pledge, now, and, once before it.

Kind of makes his pledge…

I will “never” do “that”…

I have “way” too much respect for you…

…”Mistakes”…, …”they are just” “mistakes”…,

And… My favorite…

“Not some nefarious plot.”

…kind of hard to take seriously, doesn’t it?

Seems pretty shallow to me.

Yet every one of his jabs at me, all rule violations, are left to remain.

He knew what I meant the whole time, he was just making fun of me and my “typo’.

Maybe you don’t like me and my “typo”, either.

Because I don’t make “pledges”?

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Darn it. I forgot to post this, it’s the smoking gun, with a little on the side.

He changed a comment again, erasing the third rule violation., The second case of “erasing his tracks” to appear innocent, long after his comments have already offended.

Who is he trying to fool?

Something he learned from Sun Tsu?

Who is he trying to confuse?

He’s not confusing me anymore.

Maybe he is trying to fool with you, to confuse you?

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Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Good point Guest. You’re correct.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Here is his latest “sleight of hand”?

Should ones comments really be able to be manipulated indefinitely, if one is logged in, if this is the result, and it is being used inappropriately and manipulatively, in a deceptive manner?

It seems like it would make problems difficult, if not I’m possible to sort out as far as where they really began, wouldn’t it.

Obviously, putting me on moderation, didn’t solve this problem, it seems to have increased it if anything.

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Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Correct Guest.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

When confronted by facts that run counter to any semblance of purported vaccine efficacy, for those that have been naively duped by it, the truly blind start desperately grasping for anything to conceal the fact that the purported “vaccine efficacy” has been, and continues to be, “waning’ and “tanking”, at the same time, and refuse to believe, when those two facts are combined, the fact is, it’s “wanking”!

Nooo
Guest
Nooo
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Spin. Spin until you make it come out they way you want.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

That’s definitely the way you are doing it.

Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

?

Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Correct Guest. The vaccine does not decrease infectiousness locally.

Gretchen loves Chechen
Guest
Gretchen loves Chechen
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

Mobility scooters unite!

Local Farmer
Guest
Local Farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe Mota

I’d say the truly blind can’t see the truth and label it a conspiracy theory. Several friends who received the vaccination say they have heart pain and tightness that only appeared after receiving the vaccination. Studies show that heart attacks and strokes are way up when compared with pre pandemic levels. Calling the people who are paying attention, conspiracy theorists, is a lazy ignorant way of burying your head in the sand.
I’m sure you think Americans had nothing to do with the maidan coup either.
Baaaaaaaaaaaa

Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Local Farmer

Thanks.

“Repeated Cardioembolic Stroke after COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination: A Case Report.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8606267/

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
Guest
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Yup, the covid restrictions caused as many excess deaths as covid itself the 3rd quarter last year. The medicine as bad as the disease.

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Nooo
Guest
Nooo
4 years ago

Again- “Many of these non-COVID-19 excess deaths were due to heart attacks, strokes and cancers. Recent studies have shown that a month after people are infected by COVID-19, their risk of death from heart attacks, strokes, blood clots and irregular heart rhythms increases. To the extent that COVID infections predispose the population to more health complications, the risk of death from these conditions is not negligible.” Non Covid deaths are not the same as not related to covid.

Nooo
Guest
Nooo
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

The article itself had an explanation. “Many of these non-COVID-19 excess deaths were due to heart attacks, strokes and cancers. Recent studies have shown that a month after people are infected by COVID-19, their risk of death from heart attacks, strokes, blood clots and irregular heart rhythms increases. To the extent that COVID infections predispose the population to more health complications, the risk of death from these conditions is not negligible.” So interpreting that it was economic or social stress that increased the “non covid” deaths is an extreme exaggeration created by leaving out inconvenient contradictions.

ILoveplants
Guest
ILoveplants
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

“If you don’t know
what you’re doing,
then neither does
your enemy.
-Joe Tzu

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I like stars
Guest
I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

“My butt’s been wiped.”
– Brandon

https://youtu.be/A1veW1s24Xo

Liberty Biberty
Guest
Liberty Biberty
4 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

?

Gretchen loves Chechen
Guest
Gretchen loves Chechen
4 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

Do you know the real intent?

Gretchen loves Chechen
Guest
Gretchen loves Chechen
4 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

Confuse us say man who stand on toilet is high on pot

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.
Sun Tzu
This is in reply to ILP and the TZU reference. Nothing more nothing less. I am not trying to make some ones head explode.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Always stick with the fundamentals.
??(I can’t stand deception)??

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Prof. Quiz
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

One more for the peanut gallery:

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Nooo
Guest
Nooo
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Yet here we are, with people going on and on and on about how they find the burdens of the pandemic restrictions intolerable. Comments after Public Health said it was still high here. So which is it? Is the conspiracists delight over another confusion of correlation with cause or is the county full of people determined to be sick in the hospital? Can’t be both.

Willie Caos-Mayham
Member
Willie Caos-Mayham
4 years ago

??Times they are a changing. ??

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

“To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven”
-Pete Seeger-

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

President Biden is nominating Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court, making good on a campaign promise to pick the first Black woman for the nation’s highest court.

RightSideOfTheMatter
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RightSideOfTheMatter
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Yeah, I noticed that CBS Evening News led with the nomination of Judge Jackson. It’s almost like there’s not a war going on in Ukraine, our 401k’s haven’t dropped in value, gas prices haven’t risen markedly and the Chinese didn’t release a faulty bioweapon on the world. Such an amazing nomination of someone who has been a federal judge for nine years (I mean aren’t ALL federal judges hoping to be nominated to the Supreme Court???)

Funny thing was, President Biden* was standing behind her, staring at her hair…

I’m other news, Jeep may rename the Cherokee because it offends some Americans.

Ford may rename the Escort because the term offends Kamala Harris…

Connie Dobbs
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Connie Dobbs
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

She’s been an appellate judge for almost a year now. Super qualified.

Tim
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Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Connie Dobbs

As opposed to Amy Coney Barrett who only had 3 years experience total as a judge before being placed on the Supreme Court?

Jackson has 8 years experience as a District Judge prior to her appointment to the Appeals Court.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

Who says a nominee needs any court experience?

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Connie Dobbs

The first Supreme Court justices were approved by Congress in 1790.
Of the 113 Supreme Court justices in US history, all but 6 have been white men
All Supreme Court justices were white and of European heritage until the appointment of Thurgood Marshall, the first African-American Justice, in 1967
The first woman..
Justice Sandra Day O’Connor was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Ronald Reagan, and served from 1981 until 2006

RightSideOfTheMatter
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RightSideOfTheMatter
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Very good, grey fox. But you left out the part where then-Senator Biden D-Delaware) fought tooth and nail to try and prevent the second African-American from his appointment?

Did you also read how then Senator Biden D-Delaware voted in1983 to tax social security above $25,000? And how that amount at the time taxed roughly the top 10% of social security recipients but was not adjusted for inflation, so now close to 60% of seniors pay taxes on social security benefits above $25,000 today?

Why do Democrats and especially President Biden* hate the elderly-poor in America?

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4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Let’s see if this works again like it did the last time…

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The Real Brian
Member
4 years ago

Victory to Ukraine ??!

Gretchen loves Chechen
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Gretchen loves Chechen
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

How about Hong Kong, Taiwan, etc

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago

Taiwan is a hundred times more significant strategic partner than Ukraine being the source for 90% of our most complex semiconductor chips. We’ve got enough of our own wheat so what’s Ukraine got to offer?

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Nooo
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Nooo
4 years ago

The first bit of debris to come down in a land slide is rarely a house size boulder. But it doesn’t mean more is not coming. He’s now threatening Finland and Sweden over possibly joining NATO. I wonder how much of this death and misery he’s causing has to do with the restlessness of Russians with his rule.

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

??90% of neon gas to make the lasers to make the simiconductors comes from Ukraine. ??

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago

How hard is it to produce neon?

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Why has Biden shut down the DOJ China Initiative that was meant to combat Chinese theft of American intellectual property? This doesn’t have something to do with Hunter’s misdeeds by chance?

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

Not true

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

I’d guess it has zero to do with it. Are you really ignorant of the fact that put putin is more popular in Russia than any president we’ve had in over 50 years. LOL
Do you have any ideas that didn’t enter your dome through MSM?

Hayforker
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Hayforker
4 years ago

All covid measures were always influenced by public opinion and what people would tolerate and not science. I’m positive behavioral psychology drive the decisions more than true science.

Hugh Manatee
Member
4 years ago

Well, a big democrat polling firm just discovered that this whole Covid thing is not playing too well with the public anymore, so BIG changes are coming very soon. CDC has already said new masking guidelines will be issued and it will no longer be recommended to mask up for the vast majority of the country.

Wow, just before the State of the Union address… amazing.

Here is the memo the Dems received if you care to read it…
https://mobile.twitter.com/hamill_law/status/1497205184790872065

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

So the Garden of Eden was in Africa…

DNA reveals biggest-ever human family tree, dating back 100,000 years

https://www.waaytv.com/news/dna-reveals-biggest-ever-human-family-tree-dating-back-100-000-years/article_c8e014d5-c48a-551a-844b-71a36fedefee.html

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

So Adam and Eve come out of the Garden of Eden. They have sons and daughters. Cain, Abel,Seth, and the daughters Awan and Azura.
Cain married Awan and Seth married Azura.
Isn’t that illegal?
And what happened to Abel?
Oh right he was murdered.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

If you’re gonna shoot for center stage, to need to with on new material. It’s too soon for reruns

RightSideOfTheMatter
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RightSideOfTheMatter
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Incest wasn’t illegal until our Lord, thy God, made the covenant with the Israelites on Mount Sinai.

It’s okay, Grey Fox… fret and carry on over it as you see fit. Just know that the Good Lord knew what he was doing.

I like stars
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I like stars
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

“They say that Cain caught Abel rolling loaded dice”
– Robert Hunter

Connie Dobbs
Member
Connie Dobbs
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

So you’re saying The Garden of Eden is in Lake County?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. (Ps 2:4 4 KJV)

The Real Brian
Member
4 years ago

Russians will rise once Putin falls.

Ukraine ?? has my heart this weekend.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Another right wing nut job
Calls to expel Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene after speech at white nationalist event.
Republican leaders are facing fresh demands to expel the Georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, after she spoke at a conference of white nationalists and sympathisers with Vladimir Putin.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/26/republican-congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-cpac

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Why did Biden lift Trump’s sanctions on Nord Stream 2? Was it related to Hunter’s business dealings?

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

No link not true

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Absolutely true.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

While they’re at it, they should remove Lizzy ( warmonger ) Cheney and Mitt (business wrecker) Romney, Turttle McConnell,
Paul Ryan.

And the Dems? Pelosi. DiFi, Adam Shiffy, Chi Spy Swalwell, Humpty Nadler, would be a good start.

And all of the above need their business dealings investigated.

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

That’s just the start of the list of elites that have sold out the public good for personal gain, the Big Guy up top

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Romney on Greene, Gosar: ‘I have morons on my team’

Prof. Quiz
Member
4 years ago

So how do you find a trusted news source from Romania?

Kim doesn’t like “other” sources but I picked two. You can just do a search for “steaua bucharest vaccine” and take your pick. The point is that these jabs may not be beneficial for athletes. Does that give you pause? Or is he misinformed?

Steaua Bucharest ban stars VACCINATED against Covid as anti-vax owner bizarrely claims jab weakens players

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/4755131/steaua-bucharest-ban-vaccinated-covid-anti-vax-owner/

Steaua Bucharest announce a ban on vaccinated players over claims those that are jabbed die in hospitals

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2022/2/steaua-bucharest-announce-a-ban-on-vaccinated-players-over-claims-those-that-are-jabbed-die-in-hospitals.html

Is there a pattern developing here?

Germans Baffled by Soccer Players Collapsing & Dropping Dead on the Field

https://www.independentsentinel.com/germans-baffled-by-soccer-players-collapsing-dropping-dead-on-the-field/

Draw your own conclusions.

Nooo
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Nooo
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Because repeating bad information in various blogs and tabloids just because they mention it is not proof of anything. But it does seem to sell.

Prof. Quiz
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

And that depends on the interpretation of “Bad Information”. Yours and mine seem to be polar opposites, yet just who decides which if either is “Good”?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

?

The king
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The king
4 years ago

If you want to talk conspiracies… as soccer players worldwide and other athletes fall ill to a vaccine designed to protect primarily out of shape people… protecting overweight yet hurting physically fit… then mandated. Following the science or just told you are following the science, there is a difference.

Nooo
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Nooo
4 years ago
Reply to  The king

CWidespread claims that 108 FIFA soccer players have died in a six-month period in 2021 are not based in fact – nor are suggestions that the alleged deaths are linked to COVID-19 vaccines.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport-idUSL1N2T81NY

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago

“Alex”, is a jackass.

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago

SARS-CoV-2 emergence very likely resulted from at least two zoonotic events
Scientists released a pair of extensive studies on Saturday that point to a market in Wuhan, China, as the origin of the coronavirus pandemic. The two reports, totaling about 150 pages, have not yet been published in a scientific journal
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/02/26/science/covid-virus-wuhan-origins.html

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

And they were studying it in a lab 300 yards away at the same time. Coincidence?

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

“…facts still don’t slow down conspiracy theories.”
-John Green-

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4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

“The HCDPH’s”, “facts”, still, sure didn’t slow down my conspiracy theories, in “fact”, “they”, actually corroborated them”.

-Guest-

(P.S. Why do you suppose the Host, has elected not to even acknowledge this fact with even a peep, or print a correction, or a retraction, after running the error as a headline, after I tried in vain for 3 months to alert the Host to the obvious ongoing weekly error as it was being disseminated just as often?

As an attempted, volunteer, “proof-reading favor?

(It was the Host’s credibility,and the credibility of the website, that I was trying to protect, out of respect, and out of gratitude, however difficult that might be to even understand, it’s the truth). I was trying to warn the Host, that it wouldn’t end well. It couldn’t. That made me the bad guy. Go figure. I sure endured a lot of stubborn dismissals, and naysayers. And finally, not even a hat tip from the Host, for trying to give the Host a “heads up”.

Such is life.

I can understand delegating the responsibility to look into it, after 3 1/2 months, to a freelancer, Lisa Music, who asked me for assistance, which I dutifully provided, who did graciously, pen an acknowledgement, “in the comment section”, however brief.

But, I wonder, does that actually suffice for a correction and retraction, for publishing “facts”, which are incorrect, in a headline, or a simple, thank you?

Speaking of “striking”, has that headline been struck?

Has the HCDPH “struck” and corrected all the resulting errors from their reports for 15 weeks, half or more of which happened AFTER I informed them, and ALL of which could have been avoided had the Host, or you, Grey Fox, taken me seriously when I first brought it up the day it became an obvious problem.

You could have maybe convinced the Host, with your obviously greater rapport, had you only agreed, but instead, chose to oppose me, “tooth, and nail”, to the bitter end.

And you knew that I was right, all along, I very strongly suspect, you made it very apparent, even corroborating it eventually, via the CDC.

Imagine the difficulty that could have been avoided, and the credibility that might have been saved.

But you couldn’t allow ME that, could you, Grey Fox? Could you?

How was that respecting Kym, or her website, or anyone else for that matter.

You were having way too much fun, vexing me in vain, to consider any of that, weren’t you?

And you get preferred status?

SMH. Seems backwards to me.

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Just ignore Gray Box and they’ll go away, it’s the only exit from their endless loop.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago

Yes, that is the most sage advice, that is for certain, mlr. It’s what I should have done 4 months ago.

I would have spared us all the headaches, the ones that I was casing as well.

Imagine how difficult it is to get a simple AOB permit, or Heaven forbid, a cannabis permit.

And it’s a wonder Paz-Dominguez isn’t tearing her hair out, if it’s this difficult to get one simple relatively insignificant error corrected, and she is somehow responsible for getting every error that is happening across all of Humboldt County Government?

I’m possible would be a vast understatement. It’s not even in the realm of being possible.

Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
4 years ago

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Fair enough, I will stop now, as per your request.

Hopefully my comments up to this point will not be eliminated. They required a great deal of effort, thought, and careful wording so as not to be insulting.

It doesn’t surprise me that information that you have requested from them is not properly forthcoming.

I believe that you are aware of how much time and effort I have put into this, and you should be aware of the odds I was up against, and the kind of backlash that I have received along the way.

If there is additional information, that you require from the HCDPH,
That I may be able to provide for you more quickly, even immediately if you so desire, as I am willing to do so in the interest of bringing this matter to an appropriate, timely, conclusion.

If you have my email address still, send me your requested information, and I may be able to resolve them, as I have finally received enough information from them to understand it fully.

Or just post the required information here in the comments section, and I will answer them to the best of my abilities, here and now.

If it helps, suffice it to say, that the HCDPH JIC informed me Friday, that “NOW”, they just simply get their data and statistics, directly from the CDC , off their website, I presume.

And then the HCDPH adds one aspect, by authority of their own, “artistic license”… The HCDPH takes the CDC number, that is rounded to the tenths place, in this case, “68.5%”, as shown on the CDC website, and has chosen to round their number to the nearest whole number percentage point, in this case “69%”. Mystery solved.

A simple Thank You would have spoken volumes, but I understand that might be too much to ask, so as important as that would be to me, I certainly won’t insist.

It has been, however, almost 4 months of effort in my part, that could have completely alleviated, had you, or anyone else in a position of maintaining credibility, just given me the benefit of the doubt, in the first place.

After proving myself to you with,

“The Dr Coren’s 95 year old average age of Covid19 death in Mendocino impossibility”, easily proven just by the numbers provided in your reports, I would think that I should have earned, “the benefit of the doubt”.

It seems the only thing I have earned from you, due to my many efforts to maintain credibility for all concerned, is your contempt.

I am not the enemy.

I attempt to be an ally.

Just trying to do my part, and dutifully, “stand my watch”, for my community, which includes you.

“Over and above the call of duty”.

I know, nobody asked me to.

Nobody had to, that’s how I roll.

That’s usually how a “Guest”, wears out his welcome, isn’t it?

-Guest-

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You have made it very clear before, “I have no credentials, no extra education, therefore should NEVER be believed over someone possessing those qualifications, and so I am the one that must never be given the benefit of the doubt.

Even if what I am saying is rock solid, and I that would be quite easily confirmed, AND, the reason that I am trying to tell you it is, as a favor to you.

I know you don’t see it that way, but that is my intent. I’ve explained that though, and I am hoping to put the issue to rest, I have succeeded as far as getting it recognized and corrected.

It hasn’t been easy.

And yes, I do understand the feeling you describe, and I have definitely been there. I will try and keep that in mind, and I hope things improve, but I have a new dilemma, or two, if I am not to reply to, “Grey Fox”, am I also not to reply to anyone he replies to, or anyone that replies to him? I understand that it will be best not to make any kind of reference directly or indirectly, and agree that is best, but how will I know when he shape shifts yet again and, again, I know not who I am dealing with or not dealing with?

Only speak when spoken to?, and just “trust” that he is not responding to me from behind a different disguise? And not that I intend to “change my disguise”, I prefer, to remain the same, but, for very rare circumstances, such as when I need to become, for example, “Rogue Search Posse”, in order to remain anonymous.

Just staying, “Guest”, works best for me, I only keep one handle on my que, and that keeps me from messing up, but now changing that will complicate things.

But I think I can manage it, in good faith, I shall pledge to remain “Guest”, at all times, use my signature emojis, when other “Guests”, are present, except in very, very, rare circumstances, of changing my handle, in extenuating circumstances.

How is it that all the constantly switching handles, are not like a thousand “balls” coming your way?

I almost never do that, those thousand “balls” wouldn’t be coming from me, would they.

That’s what it fees like to me to have another commenter use multiple handles responding to me over and over. Hard to hold someone to there word.

Staying anonymous is one thing, being deceptive is another.

If “Grey Fox” just responds to everyone, effectively banning me, I won’t be able to get a word in edgewise, and being on moderation is like a gag as well.

All is well though, it’s for the best.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Never happened, never will. As you recall I informed you when I changed my name to Beetlejuice. And I told you the reason. When you said I was the “character” changing names and asked that I stop I did. So even back then you knew it was the same person. I know you would ban me. You don’t have to keep saying it. You tell me something once I listen and don’t keep going on about it. If it will make your life easier I just won’t comment on here. You said it’s a wearing on you, well it’s taking its toll on me also..

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

My point was you have already mentioned the ban thing to me. You don’t have to tell me twice. Or bring it up. Best I just not comment on here for awhile or if I do just a quote. I am happy about how things turned out, so thank you. Will go hang out with Matt for awhile

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4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Supposed to go to you, kym… Sorry, not intentional.

Fully vaxxed by date if the county gives you a different number than 129,503, thats what they gave me.

Hopefully it might save you a minute or two…

Sorry, this was supposed to go to you Kym, not intentional. Tired.

One more to Lisa Music and I’m done.

Hope it helps you guys save a minute or too.

You should send the County a fat bill for your time… They should be paying you for it….

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I didn’t think you were insulting me , just thought it unnecessary to bring
It up again. That was the third time. You say it I see it . You could have got your message thru without adding that.
Look it’s all good, water under the bridge.,

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I got it figured out on my end, and I can handle it from here. I posted some information that I hope helps you fill in the blanks… Check it out when you get a chance…

I’m trying to find where Lisa Music dropped me a comment, to send her a screenshot of the pertinent info you still may need…

This one…

I hope that The HCDPH JIC gave me the same number the give you for the “5 and ups” of (129,503)
And then these numbers should hold …

I know you may have to get them officially, but I would be curious how accurately I got them. If they give you a different “5 and up” population number, these numbers should all be proportionally correct…

Let me know if you need a quick copy of the fully vaccinated numbers, by weekly dates, from November 10, to February 23rd, in case they give/gave you a different pop number than
129,503.

(there was no report on 12-22-2021)

I might just send you a screenshot, anyway it would just take a couple of minutes…

Remind me, if if you need it and I don’t follow through, and it’s no problem to do… I’ll try to get it to Lisa too, but I’m getting tired…

I know, “singing to the choir”.

Get some sleep.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, you must be exhausted…

??”38 new cases reported”,?
is certainly an acceptable headline for February 16, 2022…

I do now see that you have been diligently correcting and retracting the previous headline, and all the other goofed up data that The HCDPH gave you so carelessly. I’m not sure how long ago you did that, but I just recently wrote that you hadn’t yet done so. I was wrong, and let that slip hastily, without fact checking it first. That was an egregious error, that I now regret. I am sorry for that, and I apologise. I am a little amazed that you did it so quickly, (but not that much). There was some amount of time between when I wrote it, and when I saw you had already begun to do so, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt, that you had already begun to do so, like I should have done initially. My bad.

I see now the data that you still need…

Based on The HCDPH JIC provided number for, “5 and up”
population of (129,503)…(2-16-22)

On the report from,

11-10-21,shouldsay,62%(61.96%)
11-17-21,shouldsay,62%(62.36%)
11-24-21,shouldsay,63%(62.72%)
12-1-21, should say,63% (62.83%)
12-8-21, should say,64% (63.73%)
12-15, , should say,64% (64.45%)
12-22, no report
12-29, , should say,65% (65.29%)
1-5-22,. , should say,66% (65.55%)
1-12-22 , should say,66% (65.92%)
1-19-22 , should say,66% (66.32%)
1-26-22 , should say,67% (66.71%)
2-2-22, , should say,67% (67.02%)
2-9-22,. , should say, 67% (67.33%)
2-16-22, should say, 68% (67.56%)
2-23-22, should say, 68% (67.79%)

I hope it helps, and that the 129,503 number they gave me is the one that they gave/give you, so these numbers will help, and/or work for you.

If nothing else, and they match what you corroborate, you’ll see that I was on it.

This didn’t take me that long, as I had the fully vaccination numbers already listed by date.
But please don’t think that I am at all organized. You might laugh your head off if you saw my “system”, and would certainly shake your head.

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

??Dragging on too long?

Don’t be so hasty!??

Not at all!

I was very impressed, (extremely), that you had made so much progress, in that direction, in so, SHORT, a time, as far as your, “corrections and retractions”, are concerned.

Thank you for that.

It was extraordinary.

That matters. A lot.

I should have known better than to pen such a hasty unsubstantiated claim, that you hadn’t yet, bugun this, BEFORE, I double checked such a rash and foolish statement.

??You’d think I’d have learned…?‍♂️?

? If it might bring you some “mirth”, (hopefully it does), picture me, my “Spidey senses”, tingling like mad, scrolling, scrolling scrolling, up, down, up, down, back, and forth, over and over, looking for the, now, non existent, “73% headline”, to “fact check”, after the fact, what I had already, “run my mouth”, about, and… I don’t know… maybe picture the look on my face, when I realized, (after eventually finding the location through a Google search using the key words, the headline already corrected to simply, “38 new cases today”, too late, jaw dropping, that I had once again, “stuck my foot in it”, and imagine also, the sound of the nearly simultaneous, “forehead slap”, that came with that “ultimate”, realization.

Only you know, if that “correction”, came before, or after, my “hasty comment”.

I can only assume, it came before…
And for the sake of the resulting humorous narrative, I trust, the “secret will be safe” with you…

It would actually be funniest, if you pulled off changing it, as I was “lost”, scrolling, up and down, until at least half, if not all, of January..?

If that’s not funny enough to have you on the floor by now, clutching your sides, picture this…

Me slamming on the breaks, skidding, throwing it sideways, grinding it unmercilously, “slamming it into reverse”, so to speak, still moving in the wrong direction, and trying to “backpedal” like crazy, now speeding, navigating with renewed energy and properly adjusted focus, to hopefully, make amends.

That’s what inspired me to give you the rest of the information I thought you might need to complete your unfortunate task…

Which reminds me, it’s time to call HCDPH, to confirm “129,503”.

They said 2:00PM, and it’s 10:03 AM… Time for a wake up call…

I’ll let you know how it shakes out.

???Like I said, you’d think I’d have learned…?‍♂️?‍♂️?

(It’s not the first time, but hopefully it’s the last.)

Never underestimate RHBB,
Or you’ll be in for a big surprise.?‍♂️

And if you got a laugh out of this… Especially if it was a “hearty one”…

Make a donation, will ya?

A hearty one…

She’s earned it.

(Along with my respect).

– Guest-

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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Just to let you know, I called The HCDPH JIC, back a little bit ago, for the second time after calling them Thursday and them promising to get the number they had already given me, 129,503, “5 and up”, confirmed, or they would have the correct number to give me.
Today, after “much ado about nothing”, they would neither confirm or deny, 129,503, (the number they had given me long ago), as being the correct, or incorrect number, and just as uncooperatively , would not give me the correct number, if the one they had previously given me was “officially” incorrect.

And finally, he even tried to claim that he didn’t remember giving me the 129,503, number, or the others he had given me with it, 119,405, for the “12 and up”, and 135,940, for the total, population.

I’m sure it is in the archives, very near the time he gave them to me…

All he would tell me is that they were now deferring to the CDC, for their data, and that according to the CDC, the population for Humboldt is 135,558, the same number I have been using off and on, for Humboldt for a very long time, up until the point that The HCDPH JIC gave me the 135,940 number.

This concludes my efforts on this matter, unless there is anything else you may need.

Thank you for enduring my stubborn tenacity, and assisting me in tackling it.

Sincerely,

-Guest-

Guest
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, as far as any information you still require from the HCDPH, I forgot to mention a couple more things…

If it is population numbers you seek, for whatever group, please note that the vaccination numbers that CDC uses, and the HCDPH uses, are different.

The CDC has more current info., by a week or so…

For example, most recently for the “68.5%” figure the CDC is providing, that the County uses to round to “69%” the CDC used a fully vaccinated number of 88,053, whereas the HCDPH, simultaneously posted that 87,791 had been fully vaccinated.

A difference of 262.

Also the numbers the two different agencies use for the “total” population, AND, the “5 and up”, population, respectively, are all different.

For example, The CDC uses a total population of 135,558, but The HCDPH JIC gave me a figure of 135,940, for “total” population,

And most notably, the initial number given to me by The HCDPH JIC at a previous point for the “5 and up” population was, 129,503.

They refused to reconfirm this when twice we last spoke… Thursday, and as they said to call back Friday, noon, because it was late in the day, (4:47 PM), and then on Friday, as I happened to call after 1:00 PM, they could no longer provide me with the information, and I would have to call back Monday after 2:00 PM.

But it became irrelevant anyway because they informed me that they are just using the CDC number now, and I already new that the round to the nearest whole number percentage point.

The CDC number for the,
“5 and up” population, isn’t posted any where that I have found, but it can be narrowed down effectively, by using the fully vaccinated number they are using for this group, 88,053, and the percentage that 88,053 represents, (keep in mind that the CDC rounds to the nearest one/tenth of a percent), 68.5%

It works out to, 128,544, + or – , 94 or 93, respectively…
(128,451-128,638)
Because any higher or lower number they would be using wouldn’t round to 68.5%.

88,053 ÷ 128,544, + or – , 94 or 93, respectively, rounds to 68.5%

This can be roughly confirmed by taking the 5.1 % the census claims for the “under 5”, group, converting it to 94.9% for the,
“5 and up”, population,
(100% – 5.1% = 94.9%), and then,
Multiplying 94.9% times 135,558

(128,645) is close enough to
128,638 that it can be logically attributed to a rounding error, due to the fact that the 5.1% census figure wasn’t exact.

If, for whatever reason, you are still waiting, for the number from The HCDPH, for the “under 5” population, look, and wait, no further, (7014), + or – 94, or, 93, respectively.

Again, (to confirm), 5.1% times 135,558 = 6,913 (7014 -101) close enough, as 5.1% from the census has surely been rounded.

It’s not really even necessary, given the rest of the numbers I have provided for you, but nonetheless, as I have reason to believe the under 5 population is the information you are waiting to receive from them, there you have it, please pass along this information to Lisa Music, if you would please.

119,405 is the number The HCDPH initially gave me for the “12 and up”population, if you’re looking to explain how the got 73% by mistake, just divide the fully vaccinated number from that week by 119,405. This is the error that’s been happening every week, with a different fully vaccinated number, resulting in a incorrect percentage, since 11-10-2021, the first report that should have reflected the addition of the 5-11 year olds, or 12-1-2022, when “12 and up” from the 11-24-2021 report, was changed to “5 and up”, but “that’s it”, in the weekly report. The 68% didn’t change, (drop 5+%), like it should have.

End of story.

There is your information, can you trust me yet? Or do you still require assistance from the “experts”?

They are letting you down.

I, however, am not.?‍♂️

“Go figure”.

-Guest-

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Lisa Music
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4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Guest, neither Kym or I doubt you. However, in our roles, we are required to have proof. If agencies are unwilling to give those facts, we have avenues we can take.
I would think with all the time and energy that you have exerted on bringing this to the public’s attention, you would want us to do the due diligence in getting the most accurate numbers available to us.
I personally, am not satisfied to just toe the cdc line when this magnitude of a mistake has been made. By confirming the numbers used, we are then able to hold the future data released to these same metrics.
Be patient, we are not ignoring or letting it slide. We are investigating. It does no one any good to retract something without the full scope of accurate information.
The information was wrong. You pointed it out doggedly for months. Thank you for your interest in public health and transparency. You asked Kym to use her time, resources and clout to get the information corrected, she is doing that. We are doing that.

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa Music

Hmm…

I’m pretty sure you asked me to provide you with information, and I sort of remember you asking me for my sources. I just got done trying to do that and now you tell me it isn’t going to do any good…

Oh well…

It was worth a try.

The only things I’m still wondering are, who all were responsible for getting this right?, How much they are getting paid?, How much it cost?, and how on Earth it is going to get straightened out, and how much is that going to cost.

And, what I should do, if I see some such nonsense reprinted on this website again? This is not the first time, nor will it probably be the last.

Do I simply ignore it and let it fester and build indefinitely, and spread and spread until it permeates throughout the whole community misleading them all, compromising credibility, trust, and the reputations of all concerned, and just let everything slide, so as not to get punished?

It’s tempting, what say you?

Do things like this matter?

If the HCDPH is just relaying information from the CDC, why doesn’t RHBB, NCJ,and LOCO, just bypass the HCDPH, and get more accurate updated information straight from the CDC websites, and then the excess, overpriced, useless, baggage at the HCDPH can get cut loose?

And,

So does this mean in order to say “You’re Welcome” to Kym, I would really need to delegate it to one of my employees, to contact you, in order for you to relay it back to her third hand?

Why would I need to do that?

Kind of dilutes it, doesn’t it?

Kind of complicates things too, doesn’t it?

I should give you my secretary’s email, to simplify and streamline things a little bit more…

Being polite and gracious is hard, I think I’d just rather not do that myself… It’s a sign of weakness…

Plus, too, I wouldn’t want my message muddled, That way, it would ensure clarity, right?

That seems to be the way it’s done at HCDPH, why not all do it that way? What could go wrong?

Does that clear things up?

Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Good point Guest. Thanks for bringing this up.

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa Music

I hope this helps.

Hopefully, The HCDPH, gives you the same number that they gave me 2-16-2022 or 2-18-2022 for the “5 and up” population of 129,503. I tried to reconfirm it with them on Thursday and then Friday, and now will try Monday…

I know that you have to officially confirm these but, if you can’t use these, could you let me know how close I got, please?

Thanks.

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Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Guest your comments are eloquent and substantial, clearly contributing to the comment section.

Thank you for posting.

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Aaaa1

Aaaa1,
Your gracious appreciation has long sustained me through these sometimes troubled waters, when I needed it most.

You, have contributed a great deal of timely, pertinent, facts.

Thank you for your kind words of acknowledgement and for lifting my spirit, when it is laid low.

With all due respect,

My unusually unyielding efforts, and my hyper-observant focus, towards the accuracy and integrityof the information presented to my community, (which includes you, especially), by the “powers that be”, are only in an attempt, to uphold an impossible standard, perfection.

It is a fool’s errand.

If that makes me,”the fool”, then so be it, for that I am well qualified…

It’s apparent that I appear that way to many.

That it does not always, at least, appear that way to you, makes it all worthwhile.

With much gratitude, Aaaa1,

Sincerely,
-Guest-

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treehugger
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

guest..
i just want to say i appreciate your comments as well and also to congratulate you..
not only did you find the mistakes the county was making, but more importantly, you emphasized and made clear this fact..
..
we shouldn’t be mindlessly trusting info being fed to us by our untrustworthy, corrupt, incompetent government
..
you proved this and at a relevant time too, with the cdc admitting they also lied and withheld info.. when will people learn
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DON’T TRUST THE GOVERNMENT!
..
i hope you can spend a little time in the garden today, guest.. nature is medicine. we have 2 days of nice weather then it sounds like we’ll be chillin out (so don’t miss out!)
have a great day???

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  treehugger

Thank you, for your very thoughtful compliment, and for the same advice, I am looking forward to it.

I just got off the phone, again, with a very uncooperative HCDPH, JIC, representative, who shall remain unnamed, that after calling for 3 days, Thursday, Friday, and today, (Monday), with assurances from last week, that if I called back yet again today, they could confirm the number that they had already given me was correct.

Well, guess what happened?

Surprise, surprise, he would neither confirm that the number he had already given me was correct, or if it was incorrect, give me the correct number, that he promised to do one or the other of, Thursday and Friday of last week…

He even said that “he didn’t remember giving me the number”, in the first place…

Imagine that…

And to think…

He didn’t say, “Thanks”, not even once, NOT EVEN ONCE, ?, for as many times as I’ve called them to try and give them a heads up, that they were goofing it up.?‍♂️??

Have a great day…

Thanks again,

-Guest-

Eyeball Kid
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

We live in an imperfect world, my friend, and since we cannot effectively control the actions of others, we must focus with great care on that which can be controlled… our own actions.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Eyeball Kid

Well said,

Good looking out!
There is much truth to it..

I shall consider it. I should first probably focus on “a stubborn streak”…

But, as much as I keep trying to polish and polish it away, the more deeply engrained it becomes…

I’m beginning to think that I might have better luck succeeding in correcting another one of my many “character flaws”, if I could just focus much, much, more closely, and intently, on my awkward, “glaring”, overdeveloped, “hyper-observance”.

But, since there is really no hope of succeeding at that, I think that I’ll just try to tackle my pessimism.

Decisions, Decisions, Decisions,
Maybe first I should focus on correcting my indecisiveness.

IIts shaping up to be a long day…

It’s a good thing I’m a procrastinator, there’s always tomorrow…

Eyeball Kid
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

There is always the art of the unarticulated thought. 🙂

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Eyeball Kid

??
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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Merrick Garland shuts down China espionage unit, Now why would he do that?
And why is it every time Russia invades a Dem president is in office?

In 2014, during the Obama administration, Russia invaded and annexed the Crimea region of Ukraine as well as the Donbas region of the country and were slapped with mild sanctions on Putin and his associates by the United States.

Now Biden is in office and Obama’s cabinet is in charge.
Now Biden sleeps while slapping mild sanctions on Russia.

Oh, and the FBI can’t find 3 years of Hunter’s travel log.
How convient.

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Garland expected to roll back elements of DOJ program, so he hasn’t shut down anything.
Just this week, 192 Yale professors wrote and signed a letter to Garland, arguing the strategy contains “fundamental flaws” and is problematic on many levels, including racial profiling.

“Without open science and international collaboration, American science and technology can only suffer, and it causes brain drain,” Jeremy Wu with Asian Pacific American Justice told Fox News
And spy agencies have to have a boogie man to justify their existence..

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

See the addition to my post, had to take a phone call before finishing.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Not seeing anything. But I was basing my information on a 5 day old Fox News article. So if you have any new information would like to see it

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Sanctions are working…

Russian Soldiers’ Guns, Tanks Vanish Into Thin Air As First Wave Of Sanctions Takes Effect

https://www.theonion.com/russian-soldiers-guns-tanks-vanish-into-thin-air-as-f-1848595481

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Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Where are your ‘facts’?
You’ve provided none.

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Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Nice, now you’re spreading misinformation/propaganda for China.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago
Reply to  Local Farmer

Sun Tzu
The Art of War

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago

Vaccine conspiracies, like so much modern cult conspiracy culture, perpetuates itself and lives on indefinitely thanks to the community-building and archiving of the Internet.
Alex Pareene

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

The same is true with the terribly inaccurate HCDPH Vaccination Data Misinformation they published, that was dubiously and dutifully disseminated, that will also live on in perpetuity, as also will, the alerts by the community, (that would be me), which tried in vain to alert HCDPH, and their “affiliates” but were being ignored, by those disseminating it, in the “archives of the internet”.

The evidence of those, continued, timely, regularly repeated, and extraordinary efforts, intended to correct the HCDPH and their affiliates’ misinformation, along with those that tried to oppose those efforts to correct it, will also be etched into the internet archives, for what will have to pass, for all eternity, as well.

Having received absolutely no acknowledgement, (which apparently must be withheld at all costs by those whose credibility those efforts were intended to maintain), at least there is some small consolation in knowing that there will always be record of it.

There can be no disputing it.

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A perfect example of…

“No good deed goes unpunished”.

-Oscar Wilde-
(1854-1900)

Let me try…

“For some, bad faith efforts, lead, inexplicably, to preferred status, for others, all else being equal, good faith efforts, lead, inexplicably, to ostracism”

-Guest-

Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
4 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Good point Guest.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago

Are you claiming the Wuhan lab wasn’t studying coronavirus? You know that’s not true.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

Were they? If so who was President then? The buck stops at the President’s desk as you keep repeating about President Biden. So if they were studying it and it got loose (which it didn’t) it would have been all Trumps fault

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Do your same rules apply?

In 2014, during the Obama administration, Russia invaded and annexed the Crimea region of Ukraine as well as the Donbas region of the country and were slapped with mild sanctions on Putin and his associates by the United States.
Now Biden is in office and Obama’s cabinet is in charge.
Now Biden sleeps while slapping mild sanctions on Russia.
Oh, and the FBI can’t find 3 years of Hunter’s travel log.
How convient.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
Guest
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

What good is Biden’s partial SWIFT ban if Russia can still transact energy? Seems the move is just for show, not to truly cripple the invasion.

Local Farmer
Guest
Local Farmer
4 years ago

He’s antagonizing, nothing more.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  Local Farmer

And up to his old tricks, deleting comments leaving the response of others untethered. It’s a low trick when edit is available.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

Did I reply to you? Yes I did..

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Local Farmer

Exactly. With preferred status.

The conflict in Ukraine must be creating envy.

grey fox
Member
4 years ago

Oc·cam’s ra·zor
/ˌäkəmz ˈrāzər/
noun
the principle (attributed to William of Occam) that in explaining a thing no more assumptions should be made than are necessary.
Examples of Occam’s razor
“You have a headache?”, “Oh no… you might have the Black Death!” Sure, it’s true that one of the symptoms of the Black Death is a headache but, using Occam’s razor, it’s obviously much more likely that you’re dehydrated or suffering from a common cold

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

True that, the reason lab leak most probable covid origin

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago

Solidarity with Ukraine, dump your vodka down the drain!

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
4 years ago

I don’t drink, but if it’s already been purchased, why not use it as a household disinfectant and cease buying anymore.
Wipe down sink and faucet handles after working with raw chicken, etc.

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
4 years ago

Who doesn’t like pudding before their afternoon nap?

I’m picturing the Oval Office in President Joe Biden’s White House, just before our real presidents–chief of staff Ron Klain or perhaps Susan Rice–put him to bed for his afternoon nap.

They take turns spooning pudding into the old man’s mouth. And as they stick the spoon to his lips, they think of what all political creatures always think about, no matter what party, no matter what flag, no matter what age they find themselves living in:

Their own survival and how best to hold onto power.

Especially now that Biden’s approval ratings keep dropping, gas prices keep rising, inflation eating at American paychecks, as Russia’s murderous dictator Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine and kills its people.

So, what can the Biden White House do? Looks like they’ve already begun this four-step program:

1. Blame Putin for everything that’s gone wrong since Day One of the Biden administration, including inflation from wild spending sprees, and high gas prices at the pump.

2 Double down on the already-approved Biden White House theme that critics are nothing but traitorous pro-Russian stooges.

3 Spin away the reality of Biden as a weak, doddering old man by reminding Americans of all those times he’s threatened to take Putin, former President Donald Trump or Joe’s old nemesis, “Corn Pop”  behind the barn for an old fashioned “whuppin’.”

4 Entertain a more aggressive interventionist foreign policy in Ukraine and elsewhere.

https://johnkassnews.com/biden-options-blame-putin-and-cast-dissent-as-treasonous/

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grey fox
Member
4 years ago

I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet, strange, I am ungrateful to those teachers.

Khalil Gibran

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
4 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

“If we could learn to like ourselves, even a little, maybe our cruelties and angers might melt away.”
JOHN STEINBECK

Aaaa1
Guest
Aaaa1
4 years ago

“CDC Blasted After Withholding Data Over Fears Of Vax Appearing Ineffective.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/cdc-blasted-after-withholding-data-over-fears-of-vax-appearing-ineffective