National Guard Deployed in Eureka to Combat Surge in COVID Testing as Omicron Variant Arrives in Humboldt County
![A small and mighty team of National Guard members assisted with organizing the onslaught of those needing testing in Eureka, January 8, 2022. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]](https://kymkemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/269962583_1028081081116015_5418708735516814977_n.jpg)
A small and mighty team of National Guard members assisted with organizing the onslaught of those needing testing in Eureka, January 8, 2022. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]
On Wednesday Jan 5, Dr. Ian Hoffman warned of the new variant Omicron being a formidable threat to Humboldt’s collective pandemic recovery, telling reporters at a press conference, “I think that it’s safe to say based on the recent genomics sequencing from a few weeks ago, that Omicron is here and it’s circulating in our community, and we are really starting to see the beginnings of the Omicron surge in Humboldt County.”
He stressed that due to the nature of the new variant, because it seems to be spreading so quickly and effectively, use of home testing kits and appointments to get a PCR test have increased suddenly, causing a shortage of available tests for people who need to ‘test to stay’ whether that be at school or at work. The run on tests is also reflected at local testing sites provided by the state via the Optumserve network.
Hoffman explained that testing during this surge, for local employees as well as for local parents has become a necessary element of functioning. “So, as far as some of the ways we’re preparing here at Public Health for that, we’re increasing testing,,” he said Wednesday “So we’re trying to get more testing in the county. We’ve increased the Optum capacity this past week, we’re looking to increase it more in the coming weeks. Those requests are into the state.”
The state of California, which supplies and funds the COVID-19 Optumserve testing sites, has responded to the request from Humboldt County Department of Public Health and provided National Guard members to assist.
Earlier today, our reporter was greeted by a National Guard Sergeant upon arrival at the Wharfinger Building at the marina in Eureka, who asked, “Hi, you here for a Covid test? Do you have an appointment or are you a walk up?” Having arrived without an appointment, but wanting a COVID-19 test, our reporter got in line with the walkins who were welcomed to get tested alongside those who had made online appointments.
Inquiring as to whether appointments were needed, or if Optumserve was offering walk-in testing, the California National Guard Sergeant informed our reporter that both we’re taking place.
National Guard are assisting members of the public acquire COVID-19 testing, with or without an appointment, at the Wharfinger building in Eureka.
After receiving a PCR test at the optimum serve testing site, the patient receives a notification as seen above and afterwards receives an email with their test results. Results are expected between two and four days on average. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]
According to a staff member on site, an additional “team“ of National Guard members is expected to arrive this evening from Redding, so long as the group is able to secure a rental car, which had been proving difficult, according to feedback from staff on site.
Staff on site at the Wharfinger expressed relief at the arrival of the camouflaged helpers who were stoic and dutifully responsive to the needs of locals anxiously wondering about their COVID-19 infection status.
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Funny….Doesn’t seem to matter if we test…Husband and I tested on Wednesday and still havent heard back…What good is that?
Weird. My mom and husband tested Friday at Redwoods Rural and knew within a couple of hours.
PCR tests take like 3-4 days rn. It really is ridiculous but the only way is to quarantine while you wait for your results. How the heck did your parents get it in a couple hours? Did the nurse run it down to the lab and sequence the DNA in a couple hours? Unlikely but not impossible I guess.
Rapid test take 20 minutes but aren’t very reliable and are usually followed with a PCR test.
I have appt for pcr test and told I will have results in a couple hours
Rapid tests are the one you use before travel. But are not reliable???makes a lot of sense. Must be real serious 🤣🤣
Lol. This episode of Clown World was hilarious! Stay tuned for everyone’s new hit favorite Ouch my Balls featuring your favorite peers from Clown World!
Huh????wierd. 🤡🤡🤡Over everyone’s head.
It is a reference to Idiocracy.
Janice talking about balls is so relaxing
It’s a compromise between what medical science would dictate and what the public wants.
I have a pcr scheduled this week to fly next day. Now im told a naat is necessary to fly. Sfo only says to contact airline, and I tried that route, asking if pcr is good to board, and they cant say difference of pcr or naat. If all we hear about is to take a pcr test, and the naat is more suitable, then what is the deal? Even clinic lab said there are 4+ different antibody tests, w no solid data on them. Why is no discussion on this naat test? Im really confused about it. Interested in any response.
This is the CDC’s page that describes the test needed for flight https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/diagnostic-testing.html It has to be a swab up your nose test in my understanding. For more, see here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html
Yep, that would be the the one, results in seconds, best 50 bucks a person could make, especially when they have a group of 25 . 1250.00 bucks in 25 minutes of joke testing , someone is winning . I feel wayyy better about myself after passing a test and hitting the airport, dumbest mandate ever, but a money maker all around .
So after countless hours, the airline called back next day and told me within contiguous us, test wasn’t necessary..a mask is. Go figure..
Man, I’m sorry. I knew that and even posted about it. I just assumed you were talking international.
What’s naat?
I remember when this website had news on it
Same. I’m still waiting for results. An abnormal wait time. Usually have results by Friday. I’m aware that it would take longer.
we tested wednesday and still waiting
Where were you tested? They didn’t give you a time estimate?
What were your calling from a Walkie Talkie? And did I catch a 9ner in there?
Hilarious walkie talkie with a bear suit on
Stay strong freedom rights supporters! I really believe it’s a small minority pushing this mandate agenda that bidden Is backing.
The fact that he’s pushing this mandate on people is putting me on edge. I know vacinated people agree that this is unpalatable and that is at least one blessing.
I’m vaccinated, and I am totally down with the mandate.
I’m down to watch you get vaccinated for the rest of your life. I’ll make sure to wear the most breathable mask with nose in the wind.
Did you point your Satalite at them, sometimes you don’t get good phone service unless you do that
Don’t tell them, might cause a longer wait time
I tested Tuesday night and didn’t get the results until this morning.
Maybe your results were unreadable. Did they get proper placement of that q tip in your nose
Call them back, they might read your results to someone else mistakenly
As long as nobody’s sneezed in your face & you haven’t eaten Wild Wolf meat or been bitten by a flying bat you should be fine.
Your usually positive if they don’t respond to you, their trying to save everybody that’s negative from encountering you. If your positive they don’t want you around infecting them. Think about it. Don’t worry the new COVID isn’t that potent anyways, it doesn’t effect the lungs as much. So keep running around, you’ll ditch it
But the Delta variant is still very much active and DOES affect lungs and is worse in general than omnicron variant.
What happens if you get both will they work against each other?
They probably called, you both were busy with your anniversary
Wow, what part of short staffed did your not hear? It’s called overwhelmed with testing 400 people per day and help in all phases of the process being stretched due to the lack of staffing.
So call them back every 4 or 5 minutes, everyday. Like a radio station maybe you’ll win something
Short staffed ya right how many people work for the county? It’s called being worthless
You really want the guy that paints the letters and stripes on county roads to analyze your test? Sure you do, because he’s one of the “many people work[ing] for the county”.
Considering the uselessness of the tests, it wouldn’t really matter who analyzes them.
Besides, the people at the Wharfinger Building said they send the tests out of the area to be analyzed. It’s a private company, so there are no county workers involved.
They came back with a false positive.
Steve, I was replying to Joe who suggested it was county folks doing it, but, honestly, I didn’t know either. Now I do, thanks. Private and out of county, I guess that explains some of the results taking longer than a day. I did, however, know how effective the tests were, or, rather, ineffective.
Talk Shit to them not us please. We have nothing to do with it. We’re just your peer counseling group offering praise. Hallelujah
Why are all you people getting tested? 400 a day!? Do you all have symptoms or do you just want to raise those numbers so the government can justify shutting everything down and passing their ridiculous mandates. If you feel sick stay home until you get better. If you get very sick go to the hospital. Getting tested won’t change anything and neither will bringing in the national guard. STOP THE INSANITY!
Right!? If you suspect you have COVID, open a can of beer. If you can smell it, drink the beer. If you can taste it, you’re good.
If you have doubts, keep testing as directed above. Medical staff are overwhelmed because of all the scared ninnies who act like they’ve never had humboldt crud before.
Some jobs require testing every week if you are unvaccinated.
Under what circumstances would many of the fully vaccinated need to be tested?
It’s no good at all, especially when the requirement for entry at certain places, hospital visitation, is a negative test within 72 hours, and only to get the results back in 5 days, totally worthless.
Can I ask where you tested?
While I admire and appreciate the service of our National Guard, I can’t help but think that this is nothing more than posturing by a false and ingenuous electorate. This virus has over a 95% survival rate. With the levels of vaccinations (or Stars Upon Thars) and the number of people that have already had COVID, herd immunity is a reality. If it’s NOT a reality, then it’s because this is a bio engineered virus and the vaccines are a placebo. Which is it? Something just isn’t adding up here.
This is like a damned bad Hollywood script.
What a crock of bullshit!
95% survival means one in 20 dies. Would you like to look around at your family and friends and select one out of every 20 to sacrifice?
Yes
Hilarious! Remember, blood is thicker than water… unless they get on your nerves, stick their nose in your business, or talk shit about you when you’re not around. Then it’s 86 on the aforementioned relative.
Shit happens and don’t none of us get out of this alive. Either get busy living or get busy dying. Choice is yours.
Uh oh, you’re not talking about freedom of choice are you?
Granted to us by our Lord, thy God.
Methinks some nonbelievers and liberal thinkers are going to have a problem with that statement, but I really don’t give a fuck.
Good evening to you, sir or madam.
And those are the only two nouns that I will bestow upon an individual, relative to their gender. Another thing that will annoy the liberal thinker, and I say that with much mirth.
Methinks you have given TRB all the evidence he needs to convince himself that you and I are the same person. Perhaps grey fox could clarify this.
Verily, I say unto thee… you and me are not we…
May God have mercy on a perplexed soul!
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Methinks you are right, but who am I to say?
Perhaps if someone wasn’t so juvenile and using multiple names ( like in this thread) the conversation wouldn’t be needed. FYI, it’s so obvious which makes it all the more pathetic and juvenile.
You do know it’s obvious, don’t you?
You spent all the time figuring out who’s who so just tell us and save our time
It’s called Doxing. Kym doesn’t allow it.
The troll with the bajillion names, he knows I know who he is, right mlr?
I wouldn’t know who anyone was in real life if they’re not using their real names here. But you do? How’s that, you have some super secret computer tracing software, get the IP then the physical address, then find who lives there? That’s some serious stalking, is it legal?
MA’s not a stalker; all y’all are stalkers!
MA called me a sock-puppet the other day, then called me, “T.” I have no idea what she’s talking about.
She also said she’s not MA, so apparently her sock-puppetry is complete.
I don’t care if she’s MA from LoCO or not. She acts like it, so she gets the name.
Also you
You
Soo…are these multiple names in the room with us now?
Probably & that endangered squirrel 🐿️
Also, also, you.
In nature we see where God has been. In our fellow man, we see where He is still at work. Robert Brault
Shut that person up! I believe it was TRB (or maybe it was grey fox) who said they were happy a person expressing their opinion was shot and killed. Be careful what you say!
Your usual pattern, T. Conversations with yourself. So funny to watch.
Are you saying I’m TRB? The horrors! I’d kill myself.
Borderline comment.
ProTip….If you get a mild illness:
– Do NOT go to the doctor.
– Do NOT get tested.
– Do NOT tell anyone you’re sick.
– Do NOT post about it on socials.
Keep it to yourself. Period.
People are crazy enough to actively track and report you one way or another. Whether in Australia, the US or anywhere.
(This is my personal opinion and does not constitute actual medical advice.)
Australia went from disarming their citizens for their safety to beating them in the streets for their safety in a little under two years.
So…have you lost one of every twenty people you know in the last two years? Have you lost one in a hundred? Few have lost one at all.
So what is it that makes us so afraid of that, “what if,” number? You realize that two years ago they were projecting an exponential spread rate of one-to-two-point-two per day. At that rate the whole world should have been infected by Thanksgiving, 2019. Nothing close to that ever happened, yet here we are still saying, “What if?” It’s ludicrous.
mother-in-law?
122 deaths in Humboldt.
Out of about 136,000.
That’s less than one out of one thousand. Over 99.9% overall survival rate.
So if there were 1,000 in your family, statistically one would have died of Covid19.
And I think it’s a little less than 10% infection rate.
If you do get infected it’s roughly a 99% survival rate.
Not sure where you came up with 1 in 20.
She came up with it from Future Capitol Tourist saying that the virus has a greater than 95% survival rate. So, in true Screen Hypnosis fashion, she extrapolated that out to one in every twenty dying.
Didn’t matter that it had no basis in fact. Didn’t matter that it was an extremely conservative estimate. All that mattered was that, using that one unsubstantiated number, she could come up with something she was sure would scare us all.
Fortunately we’re not all that easily scared.
Unfortunately, she’s probably a teacher.
That’s from poison ivy, your reading the wrong statistics
Actually, as of Friday there were 11,805 cases NOT 136,000 infections in Humboldt…so please check your math and your reasoning…
Where did I say anything about 136,000 infections?
I said about 136,000 total population, and about 122 Covid19 deaths. About a 0.09% fatality rate, overall, or about an overall survival rate of 99.91%
I didn’t say CFR.
You want CFR?
11,805 cases you say?
And, what, about 122 Covid19 deaths? Shit it’s 123, isn’t it?
Isn’t that still about 1 in 100 CFR?
OK, sheesh! 1 in 95.98.
So about 1.04% CFR.
Oh wait I see where I goofed up, your right, I said if you get infected, survival rate is 99%.
I guess I should have said 98.6%, CFR, not 99%. I misremembered having more cases. Sorry.
Oh wait do you think I should have said 10% “cases” instead of “infections”?
I meant confirmed infections.
Why don’t you show me how 1 in 20 fits?
She said 1 in 20 that you know. That’s wrong. That would be overall population.
She should have at least said, 1 in 20 that you know that have tested positive for Covid19.
Big difference.
Check your own reasoning.
This goes back to that exponential spread bulls**t. Going by the CDC’s official number for exponential spread (1 to 2.2), everyone in Humboldt County (approx. 140,000 people) should have been infected by Mar. 6, 2020. Here we are nearly two years later, and we have less than 12,000.
It’s not because of masking up, social distancing, and vaccines — the mandates weren’t put into place until two weeks after Mar. 6, yet here we are still basing policy based on the fear of, “exponential spread.”
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Thanks Guest.
The fully vaxxed locally are infected at 63 per 100,000,
locally the unvaxxed are infected at 37 per 100,000.
(According to the North Coast Journal).
That’s right, and don’t forget, the partially vaxxed infections are included in with the unvaccinated.
6.48%, so it’s probably only about 30.5 per 100,000 totally unvaxxed, to 63 per 100,000 fully vaxxed…
You can find the data on the interwebs, technically speaking it is a 1.2%-2% mortality rate
Nationally, maybe.
But in Humboldt it’s not.
In Humboldt, it’s;
0.45% average annual Covid19 fatality rate, for the last two years.
0.9% overall, for the last two years combined.
I say Covid19 fatality rate, because “mortality rate”, I believe, is properly expressed as “a number in, (or out of), 100,000”, not as a percentage.
But maybe I am splitting hairs.
Technically speaking it’s well under 1% mortality rate.
What about the ones who die from the jab? Do they count?
And 1 in 20 people aren’t dying so your little virtue signal is meaningless
Also, also, also, you
95% is also a huge piece of misinformation. In the United States this virus has a 99.7% survival rate.
So look around at your closest thousand friends and relations and select the oldest 3 to sacrifice.
That’s closer to the reality of covid than your suggestion
Jesus…my oldest three–my beloved aunt, my stepdad who runs a successful business and takes wonderful care of my mom, and my mom… .Pardon me if I don’t feel thrilled about losing them.
Figure 1.
But I agree, the idea of losing just 1 is still not very thrilling.
I should have said, figure 1 in a 1,000.
I lost my grams and no it was not thrilling. She was amazing.
I’m sorry to hear that.
My maternal grandmother died over 50 years ago… I was 8
My paternal grandmother died 13 years ago.
Grandmothers are very special.
I knew 5 people whose deaths we’re Covid19 related.
But you know darn well you probably won’t. Not from Covid, anyway.
Someone I respected in my life already died from COVID, Steve. And he was much younger than the three oldest that I care about.
Several people that I like have been in the hospital with COVID. Even more people that I care about have lost folks or had people close to them suffer in the hospital
I don’t know how you are avoiding all these folks impacted by COVID. I learned today that a local youth is in the hospital. I’m glad though that you’ve been lucky enough to avoid the pain.
You realize your debating with someone who thinks I am demented and that TRB and I are the same person?
Steve Parr
17 hours ago
Reply to grey fox
You accused me of being someone from two years ago who said, “methinks,” leading me to believe you are demented. Are you saying that because I thought it, it is so?
Not even sure what he is talking about. Spooky action at a distance?
Kym: he is still playing he forgot to mention this
Steve Parr
1 day ago
Reply to mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
My wife just spent almost two and a half months in the hospital after getting her first vax shot. Haven’t seen the bill for that, but I’ll bet it’s way more than a tube of Ivermectin
You’re drifting again, grey fox. What does my wife nearly dying from a possible vax reaction have to do with my belief that Covid is unlikely to kill Kym’s elderly relatives?
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You do realize that if you and TRB were actually the same person, that neither one of you might actually be aware of it?
Most people have.
I hope you are okay. It’s pretty rough.
I had plenty of pain from 2019 through 2021. I lost twenty-four friends and my mother. It was not a good time, but Covid killed none of them.
People die all the time. It’s part of life.
Yes, people do die. Preventable deaths though are much more frustrating to those left behind.
I am sorry to hear about your losses Kym. This is a time of hardship, and we shall prevail. Let their memory not be forgotten
Of course, no one wants any one they love to die. Unfortunately it’s the inevitable outcome of life.
Do you have 1000 relatives? If not you’re not likely to lose those 3. Even the cdc estimates that the risk to the oldest cohort (presumably where your beloved relatives reside) faces a risk about 1 in 11. Do you have 11 elderly relatives? Statistically you are likely to lose 1 of them to a covid infection.
I know over well over 1000 people. My family is relatively long lived and I have 7 aunts and uncles alone who fit in the elderly category. Heck some of my cousins I ran around with playing tag as dusk fell over our family get togethers are in that category. I have a mother and a beloved stepdad who fit. I have a beloved mother-in-law and stepfather-in-law who fit in that category. The woman who is a second mom fits in that category.
I have to ask…don’t you come from close families? Don’t you have people that matter to you that are vulnerable? I figure that you guys had to have sprung full grown from tin woodsmen and didn’t need flesh and blood to give birth to you, because otherwise it wouldn’t be possible for you guys to be so casual about so many of them dying because people won’t wear a mask or get a vaccine.
Beyond the old, I have family members who aren’t old that have heart conditions, ones that have cancer, ones that have organ transplants, ones that have diabetes and ones that are handicapped. And I’m not talking distant family, I’m talking wake up Christmas Morning and open stockings or play tag at family gatherings type of family. And that doesn’t count the people I just know and like. People who make me laugh and who stop to exchange chats when we see each other on the road or in the grocery store. Neighbors I’ve know longer than my children. People who were there when I needed them desperately.
And that doesn’t count the people I don’t know well or even at all but that add to my life–from famous authors and actresses to the favorite clerks in the grocery store who remember my name, postmistresses and hairdressers, and UPS drivers…they may not be elderly but they may have had cancer, or be overweight or are fighting to maintain an organ transplant. It worries me that you don’t seem to know people that fit these categories.
Kym, please take a moment to reread your comment. Do you believe covid is the primary threat to your elderly loved ones? Are you just at passionate about the other risks? Do you shame people who don’t get annual flu shots?
I get that you’re very emotionally worked up about this topic. Lots of people are. There’s been an unprecedented media blitz of fear propaganda so it’s not surprising folks are worked up.
What is it that you want? What will make you feel like your family is safe? What will allow you to accept any of their deaths without anger? Do you truly believe that this new pharmaceutical technology you’ve been heavily promoting is without risk? How much risk are you comfortable forcing others into for your comfort?
I look at COVID vaccine risk vs COVID risk and see it roughly like the risk that wearing a seatbelt will contribute to your death and the risk that not wearing a seatbelt will contribute to your death. The risk of not vaccinating is vastly more problematic than the risk of vaccinating. If not, we would see hospitals full of the vaccine injured instead of hospitals full of the unvaccinated who have COVID.
“COVID is the third leading cause of death among people 65 and older…One in 100 older Americans has died from the virus.” https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/13/us/covid-deaths-elderly-americans.html So is COVID the primary threat. No. It’s “only” the third leading cause of death right behind heart disease and cancer (not catching from others) and ahead of “diabetes, accidents, Alzheimer’s disease or dementia”–none of which are infectious diseases.
What is it I want? I want people to stop minimizing the deaths of those that aren’t like them–the elderly and those with comorbidities–their lives have meaning. I can’t stand when people act as if the people I know as funny and smart and kind and hardworking have little to no value.
I want people to say–hey, what can we do to minimize death and illness as much as possible while still trying to minimize the economic harm to everyone else? I want people to look at science and see that it is simply clear that there are not people dying in vast numbers of vaccines and there are people dying in vast numbers from not having the COVID vaccine.
What will make me accept a family member’s death without anger? The sense that people around them valued their life and made protecting them and others like them a value they cherished. Death happens–I’m not mad at the unvaccinated because my dad, an athlete and a humorist, died horribly and in pain of MS. It’s not their fault. No one understands the reasons that someone gets MS so there is no one to be angry at. But we do know that there are ways to mitigate the spread of COVID and while I’m not the kind of person to blame individuals for their lack of understanding of science, I will be in general unhappy at those who seem to be willfully choosing to ignore the very obvious realities of COVID being mitigated by the vaccine and by masks and by social distancing.
How much risk are you comfortable forcing others into for your comfort? Because people who choose not to mask, not to social distance, and not to vaccinate are choosing their comfort over the lives of others.
Masking and social distancing are in a totally different category than experimental vaccinations.
I have never cared about masks and wear them where required without complaint. I have no problem with social distancing.
Asking, actually demanding (you’re saying if I don’t do it that proves I don’t care about old and frail people, others are trying to say if I don’t do it I can’t move around thecountry, have a normal job, or attend a place of education), that people take an experimental injection that very clearly has a greater negative impact on people’s health than any other vaccination we pressure them into is in a totally different category. I know that you’ve made the choice to believe that there’s minimal harm from these injections. And I recognize that it’s probably important for your mental health since you’ve been advocating for them aggressively for some time now, have probably convinced and facilitated people close to you to get them, and acknowledging the risk you’ve actually caused would be painful.
However, all available indicators are that these are risky injections. They do appear to mitigate some risk from this virus, so for many people they are probably a decent choice. But they do appear to pose a greater risk to many of the young healthy people who face effectively zero risk from the virus than infection does. So how much risk are you willing to ask of the youth? How much heart inflammation? How much menstrual irregularity? How much allergic (autoimmune) reaction? Is worth your feeling like your loved ones are safe to die of old age?
If you won’t even acknowledge the risk you are requesting, how can we take your request seriously? An experimental injection isn’t a fucking seat belt. If you can’t detect the difference then I would suggest that you are too deeply enthralled to make a rational request.
Eh…I am elderly and with comorbidities — and I neither need nor want a bunch of Karens running around trying to, “protect,” me. Thanks, but no thanks. I’ll fend for myself.
Kym, I am in those catagories. I’m an elderly male who’s immunocompromised, overweight, and has high blood pressure. However, I don’t spend enough time in front of my Screens to have been brainwashed by the incessant yammering about Covid.
Steve, that you call the concerted efforts of the vast majority of scientists and medical professionals “yammering” and “brainwashing” is why I can’t get mad at people who are anti-vax.
This woman went to see an expert.
I love elderly people too, I am one. But I don’t decide for them (those older than me) what they believe.
I wonder how many Grannies wouldn’t get vaxxed , but do, so their families will stop worrying. I suspect most Grannies have an assortment of beliefs, and one shoe won’t fit all feet.
Grandma knows the truth
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1480701450372083713
It’s better than that in Humboldt.
About 122 out of about 136,000.
(and that is for 2 years).
0.0897%
0.9 out of 1,000.
99.91% survival rate.
It’s not 3 in Humboldt per 1,000,
it’s less than 1.
You’ve pointed out something else unusual about this, “pandemic.” Virus deaths are normally counted annually. Why is Covid tallied cumulatively?
Good Lord, can you imagine if we counted flu deaths that way?
For the same reason that we talk about the “Spanish Flu” in terms of total deaths–this a wave of world wide deaths from a new source at the time–a pandemic.
Yes, but maybe we should be stating survival rates in terms of an average annual percentage?
99.96% per year, or so, average overall survival rate, in Humboldt, averaged over the last 2 years?
61 deaths per year, (half of 2 years worth), divided by total population, (about 136,000),
0.0004485294, converted to a percentage, .04485294% subtracted from 100% equals 99.95514706%
Rounds to an average yearly survival rate of 99.96%.
Yes, Kym, but that is after the fact, looking back, to over 100 years ago. At what point did they stop counting? Wasn’t it you that said that we were still fighting the viral descendants of the Spanish Flu? But now don’t we express flu mortality on an annual basis?
When did that change after the Spanish Flu? When will it change to an annual basis for Covid19?
When should it?
I guess I’m not sure what the concern is. There is certainly info available on deaths in 2020 and 2021. https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/coronavirus-verify/more-covid-19-deaths-in-the-us-in-2021-than-in-2020/536-a4cfb1be-648b-41a7-8b64-6600131234d3
It’s just one option to look at deaths since the beginning of the pandemic just like we look at all the other pandemics. Don’t want to look at the whole picture? Then just look at one of the articles that gives a yearly total.
There just seems to be a lot of confusion among the populace, about the true picture.
Many people are seeing different ones, as so many different versions are being presented.
How long are we supposed to quarantine or isolate for if exposed?
Test or no test required?
The positivity rate is 3%. The next week it’s 85%, then back down to 19%. Is that being the true picture really even possible?
It doesn’t seem like it.
All the way to the Supreme Court Justices, that are arguing important cases. One says 100,000, hospitalized children, then The CDC Director Walensky says 3,500? From Covid19 vs with Covid19, again… Or what?
Some people are saying 1 in 20 are dying.
Some, 3 in 1,000.
(It’s less than 1 in 1,000 locally)
Too many different messages. Too much hype.
Was it really possible to reach 70% or 80% by next Saturday, like Hoffman said? No.
Is it possible that 1.7 times as many vaccinated people, per 100,000 are testing positive, like they are saying now?
How many shots is it going to be? 3? 4? 5?
How about dependable, clear, standardized, easy to understand messaging coming from public health, etc.? It’s a mess.
I agree that this virus doesn’t affect younger folk nearly as much. That being said you cannot tally the 100,000 as a total unless they all contract and test positive for covid. You should be taking the # of positive tests and deaths for your equation instead of the entire population
“…# of positive tests and deaths for your equation…”,
is only for “Case Fatality Rate”.
Wait, I see where you are focusing on…
You are focusing on my claim that “1.7 times as many vaccinated people, per 100,000, are testing positive, like they are saying now”.
I’m going by the case graph, directly from the County, 63 vs 37, vaxxed compared to (unvaxxed and partially vaxxed combined), per 100,000.
63 per 100,000 is 1.7 times 37per 100,000.
Now do you understand what I’m saying?
Now, tell me if you will, please, what no one else will address, how is it possible that, per capita, the vaccinated are being infected at twice the rate of the unvaccinated?
That doesn’t make sense, and suggests that their is something very wrong with the methodology that the County is using to determine their data.
That makes it useless.
Unless the vaccinated are being that much more careless, which is a possibility, too.
Or both.
There is also the mask discrepancy, are the cloth ones useless? Blue ones that most people have worn for 2 years? Will N95’s now be mandated??
And I can’t remember which article I posted it at, but I posted a study on why some people can’t breathe when they wear them.
Maybe it was deleted, I’m not sure.
And, will I have to cut my beard to fit inside the mask? Do they make N-95s that hang low to cover a beard? Should we all just wear John Travolta Boy In The Bubble suits?
Shove that beard in, or you’ll get beat with conspiracy shtick! LOL
That figure would only be pertinent if 100% of the population were tested regularly.
Deaths from most illnesses are given as an overall mortality rate, not just as a CFR, because when most people who have a disease are completely unaware of it it’s impossible to establish an accurate CFR without testing 100% of the population.
The flu and the cold are pandemic every year. MRSA has been pandemic for almost two decades, yet we don’t get weekly updates telling us how many people have died since the beginning of time for any of them.
And the corona virus is not a, “new source,” any more than the mutated variants of the flu we get every year are a, “new source.”
The only thing, “novel,” about Covid is the attention that has been given to it.
It makes it more news worthy . Maybe make the history books, really it isn’t the same flu, like every flu it mutates, this year’s covid isn’t the same as last year’s but let’s keep tallying, joke.
More widespread use of thereuputics could have saved hundreds of thousands but that was Trump’s idea so the lunatics went all in with vaccines, forget all other options. Let’s face it, the promise of vaccines foisted on us was false. Not saying vaccines haven’t helped but we’d have been better off deploying ALL available tools not placing all our hope in vaccine induced herd immunity.
Only one?
Isn’t it 99.8% survival, only 2 in a thousand at risk?
In Humboldt, less that 1 in 1,000.
Less than 0.9 in 1,000, actually.
( And that is for 2 years.)
Recovery rate is far higher
“early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75”
Less than 3% not of total population (the erroneous 1 out of 20 Michelle green tried to toss out there) but of total cases.. Fractions and percentages are hard. Buthere you all are claiming 5% of the total population are on track to croak. Talk about MISINFORMATION ! But kym allows misinformation when it bolsters the creepy never ending covid, vax, mask -and now national guard – drama.
Look at the global dashboard.There are countries with less than 1% vax rate and I promise covid -19 and the idiotic gymnastics to prevent we slow the spread , are not occupying their every waking moment.
Keep in mind that cases are twice where we were one year ago *prevax,* yet the death rate is 50% of where it was at that time. Everyone needs to calm the hell down.
Actually, according to the WSJ, non-covid deaths are up 40% in the last two quarters of 2021. All the headlines are comparing it to pre-pandemic levels, but considering when the deaths happened, it would be more accurate to compare them to pre-vax levels.
Put more bluntly, these deaths are not Covid deaths. They are vax deaths.
Not sure about that many dying from vaccines but somebody provided a link yesterday claimed 118,000 excess deaths last year from non- covid reasons, I figured suicide and drug overdoses from school and other public shutdowns.
The vaxxers will twist those numbers around and say suicide and drug-overdose deaths caused by the shut-downs are Covid-related, too.
That what I’m talking about.
Also, also, also, also, you.
🤔🧐”National Guard”
Needs to rent a car?🤷♂️
Good one. But seriously, they rent cars? That just doesn’t seem right.
What happened to the, “that’s how they roll”, comment?
I thought it was clever.
It got redacted, turned into a clever Hertz comment. 🙂
Yeah, I was working on one, too.
Your, “I hope they can fit everything into their Budget” takes 1st place, imo. No prizes, just respect.
https://www.rentawreck.com/vehicle-rental.htm
Hertz to admit it.
It is quite the Enterprise.
Remember the Alamo while we’re at it.
They have an enterprising situation
#1 with the National Guard…
I hope they can fit everything into their Budget.
Every Dollar counts!
No one is posturing..The National Guard is there to assist over-whelmed, extremely exhausted medical staff that administrator the tests and vaccines. Since you feel like this is all a crock of b.s., please stay home when you get sick. You’re entitled to believe what you want to, but don’t put others at risk of getting sick. My granny is a healthy 93 year old. Don’t put her at risk of dying over your “rights”.
I’m free to move about the country as I see fit. If I got shit to do, imma do it, regardless. Keep granny sheltered. Handle your own, don’t put anymore on me. I’m already paying taxes to take care of others that won’t handle their own.
Savvy?
“I’m already paying taxes … “
“don’t put any more on me”
Sounds like your at the breaking point, y’know – paying taxes. Call your family, friends, doctor, Steve Bannon, for support, a shoulder, a way forward. Gawdspeed.
🤣
And you don’t think that my Granny doesn’t pay taxes? She’s grew up in the dust bowl and saved every penny, was an RN for 30 years and Grandpa owned a prominent roofing company in the Sac area for 45 years. They pinched pennies, invested their savings and are pulling in thousands of dollars every month on their retirement plan. I’m sure she’s paying a lot more than you do each year.
She’s well off but she worked hard for that. Don’t make assumptions.
The assumptions are all on you, my dear.
And you think all that entitles you to tell other people how to live their lives now? I’m kind of curious as to what your granny’s take on all this is. Seems to me that having endured and experienced all you claim she has that she probably considers this shit a tempest in a teapot. Have you even bothered talking to her about it?
My gram died of a common cold at around 80. She caught it from one of us kiddos probably. Or a neighbor. No one shamed anyone. She died peacefully knowing that her family and God love here. Fear is the disease. The virus is secondary.
How do you die peacefully & sick. One of you should be arrested for killing Gram
Many people die peacefully while they are ill. My great grandpa died while I was in the room, he was sleeping in a chair and all three of us in the room noticed a change. His daughter (my great great aunt) checked him and he was not breathing.
He’d been in the hospital a few days before and they had all kinds of treatments they wanted to offer him. He just wanted to go home.
I was at a rest home when a gentleman passed, I went in his room to wash his hands face for breakfast, He was sitting up in bed and I knew he was leaving us when he asked me to pass him the candy dish his wife was holding out to him. His wife was deceased.
Also, also, also, also, also, also, you.
Cool insult
I think of a hero as someone who understands the degree of responsibility that comes with his freedom……Bob Dylan
Also, also, also, also, also, you.
Mebbe, if you’re concerned about your granny, you should keep her at home and vaccinate her and not worry about what other people do.
Is your granny a slave? I don’t know about you but most of the “grannies” in my life don’t suffer fools gladly and no one tells them to stay home.
My grannies are both dead but were they alive I cannot imagine either one of them being so presumptuous as to believe everyone in the world should stay home, hide their faces, avoid socializing, treat everyone like lepers, and inject a chemical of dubious value into their and their children’s bodies in a misguided attempt to, “protect,” them from a virus of questionable lethality.
Spare me the, “You’re killing my grannie, you selfish oaf,” BS.
Huh. I’ve been tested multiple times over the last few months. What I saw was medical personnel standing around, waiting for someone to walk in. They all looked well-rested to me.
When I called my doctor to be retested after receiving a false-positive from the for-profit agency at the Wharfinger building, they got me in within four hours. The nurse who administered the two different types of tests I had done did not seem over-whelmed or even mildly exhausted.
Just because you saw something on your Screen does not make it so.
Yep, not exactly combatting a surge in testing…
More like assisting, like you say…
Although I appreciate your logical perspective, one consideration would be to continue skepticism and question available statistics. As an example: Survival rate within confirmed cases can be quantified considering the data is not corrupted. (which most of it is) Secondly, how does that information change when considering surviving victims who had not sought treatment or testing. They’re able to prove infection through antibody count but have no digital record in a data base. I imagine if non documented antibody hosts were added into the equation your argument for mortality would only strengthen to non quantifiable.
Indeed..
How many have gotten numerous tests due to hypochondria? How many have been mildly ill but not seemed a test or treatment. There are gaping holes in the data and in its presentation.
Herd immunity is a fact, or the vaccines are a placebo.
Histrionics. It’s unreal. I’d upvote you, but it’s easier to comment.
Love the “Stars upon Thars” reference. Just here to say it’s possible to be vaxxed, and? against this craziness going any further. This hype is destroying children’s lives, destroying businesses, feeding big pharma, corporate thugs,big govt. Please don’t let this be the “wolf you feed” anymore.
I totally love the Cody Jinks reference!
That “Stars Upon Thars” is priceless! I don’t know if it counts, though, unless there is an actual “star”– do people still wear those “I’m vaccinated, see my halo” stickers?
Only you, never seen such a thing
In this situation, who gets to wear the star? I hope it’s us bare-facers. I want to wear a star.
The only way I’d vote for the vaxxers wearing a star would be if it were a six or seven pointed star right in the middle of their mask. If it were brown it’d look just like a sphincter.
Welcome, glad to see HCPH is on top of things.
I thought Joe Biden was going to defeat COVID?
Oh wait…. He couldn’t even defeat dementia
Biden doesn’t have dimentia. No matter how much you wish he did. Unlike Trump, a psychotic treacherous moreass of ego driven crimes including sedition. Who would throw you in a pit of crocodiles while jacking off as you’re eaten alive.
Biden is pretty clearly experiencing some level of cognitive decline. Regardless of the cognitive decline the former president was/is experiencing after a life of being a grifter and useless idiot for the Russian mob, the current president is clearly a disgrace to the nation. Cognitively
Yes he does… Not matter how much you wish he didn’t. Well, I’m off to play with he crocodiles.
“He couldn’t even defeat dementia” … one of the more classless things I’ve read on this forum.
Keep reading
I appreciate your candor and memory. Brandon did say that he would get a grasp on this. He also said that a President that had 250000 deaths on his watch was not worthy of the office. Well, according to CDC statistics, more have died on his watch than on the previous administration.
He can’t defeat dementia. I haven’t seen anyone that can. And he’s definitely losing the battle against cognizant decline.
Yeah but did you see what he did to Cornpop?
Cornpop is he liberal?
He was a bad dude.
No, I didn’t.
But I saw a meme that showed Xi as a Chinese Communist Dictator and Brandon as a Chinese Communist Dicktaster.
Thought that was pretty funny.
What is the Cornpop reference? Imma google that shit now.
Corn Pop was a bad dude and he ran with a bunch of bad boys.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gnOdKYE0Z4k
Lol! He “faced off” with a gang leader back in 1962. As he gets older, these types of stories become more prevalent from Brandon. That’s exactly what happened with my grandma as she slipped deeper into cognitive decline.
Jill and the rest of his handlers can only deflect so much of this old racist’s ramblings.
Let’s ask Brandon if a lying dog-faced pony soldier could kick Corn Pop’s ass.
As my senior friends tell me, “I’ll take Biden’s dementia over Trump’s dementia any day!”
Seriously? They seriously say that? You people are completely deranged.
What people and how so?
Eh? Obviously she’s referring to the people steve says tell him, “I’ll take Biden’s dementia over Trump’s dementia any day!”
And if you have to ask, “how?” you obviously are yourself.
This whole thread is mostly one person toying with every one.
They’re all together in your head sounds like
Stop it, then.
These people are simply brain dead! It’s a cold! Get over sleepy joe pushing the Jim Jones juice
Anyone who looks up 2 sleepy joe should be deported!
You can keep them both. Some midget or illegal for president would work.
Yeas, but they’re demented.
Did you???
Joe Biden defeated the United Middle Eastern States along time ago. All we need is a camel logo on that flag & were good. The middle eastern folks have more rights than anyone here. They gave the Native American’s back their Whibley Island so everybody is thoroughly surrounded now
When they evacuated Afghanistan, didn’t you seen Biden thrown on the front windshield of one the Evacuation planes. The Taliban said don’t forget this statue. Golfing not allowed in Afghanistan
He defeated Trump. A worse virus.
Lmao! Soo true! He doesn’t even know where he’s at! Poor Neanderthals who voted 4 this clown! BRING TRUMP BACK ASAP!
Did his vaccines that he took contribute to, or exacerbate, his dementia?
I think it’s possible.
Also, also, also, also, also, also, also, you.
Ooh, the National Guard is here. Whatever that means.
We win. Probably a booby prize of some sort, unless we and Eureka, ARE the booby prize. Hmmm.
Yes, three whole members have arrived, and it’s headline news. There are reinforcements making transportation arrangements from Redding with Uber.
Because, you know, there might be a, “surge,” in our future and it’s doubtful we could handle all that testing without the assistance of the National Guard.
The National Guard need to eat too. Just be happy their safe & alive. Like You
The head lines Almost make it sound like we are at war with a virus
The only war is the salvation of the republic and the defense of the constitution. The rest of this crap is deflection from the objective.
They’re having a wonderful time with the phycological war they’ve deployed on the children. I guess they figured they’ll just fuck their minds for awhile before they can manipulate the consensual age limit down.
President Biden blasted expres with psychology the other day. Is that the child you’re talking about
Life, liberty… and the pursuit of all who threaten either.
It appears this is how your fellow “Patriots” accomplish that. GLWT 😂
They used a bike parking thingy for a security fence around the nations capital for a protest of a stolen election….. Just let that sink in.
Yep. Guess they never thought thousands of flag-waving so-called country-loving “Patriots” would stoop so low as to actively rush the doors hunting Congress-men and -woman … not to mention your own Vice President. Now we know, that psychos are in the crowd. So, better law enforcement response next time, eh? More cops, more firearms, bigger and better everything. Feeling lucky?
How much do you understand the role of intelligence agencies, and lawn enforcement ?
Have any idea of the budget?
I’d like to think that there might have been some extenuating circumstances, especially considering the history of terrorism & the relationship of our intelligence agencies working with them.
Maybe even directing them.
I want my money back
https://www.aclu.org/other/more-about-intelligence-agencies-ciadni-spying
I do not understand the role of lawn enforcement. Is that a HOA thing?
Yes. It never occurred to the Capitol Police that anything like that could ever happen, because they were all hired after the Kavanaugh Hearings.
Isaiah 41: 10-13
And like this…🤣🤣😂😂
Black Lives Matter
Yes, they do.
But, that pic, an indication of …?
But since we’re on the subject of protests pics, how would you like to wave off the attached?
You mean like this?: 😉
“As the last night of the Republican National Convention was held outside the White House Thursday night, protesters marched through the streets calling for revolution, violent BLM mobs chased down GOP lawmakers and attendees, and at one point, demonstrators also put up an effigy of President Trump in a guillotine.“
Daily Caller?
“The Daily Caller is a right-wing news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C. It was founded by now-Fox News host Tucker Carlson”
Oh, that rag. Smh.
Don’t like daily caller? Ok, a simple search will find mountains of evidence that this really happened:
Here’s another far ya:
Woopsie. Looks like those blm insurrectionists also put a guillotine in front of Jeff bezos’ complex. Mind you we were in a national lockdown when all this occurred… also trump was still president in august 2020, making these terrorist threats and federal crimes. Looks like your team did it first 🤣🤣😂😂
Well by all means the fbi should get on this, yesterday.
I expected a better response from you , rimme… looks like I gotcha! 😂🤣😉
You think?
Wow. We’re they in the White House, hunting for him?
Do you not remember when BLM/ Antifa were attacking the White House? They didn’t make it inside, but they broke down fences, set fires and injured dozens of officers. Remember when The Secret Service had to whisk Trump into a secret bunker because they thought the threat was that serious? Remember how the left wasn’t even a tiny bit upset by those violet actions and instead called Trump a coward and a baby for hiding? Well, some of us DO remember.
Then a lighter sentence for Trump, just 5 years, should do it. 😉
Yes, you do. But your conflating, just like the RW politicians have JUST begun to do. Now, isn’t that interesting.
Perspective, son.
I don’t usually post links but here ya go.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-14/comparison-between-capitol-siege-blm-protests-is-denounced%3fcontext=amp
click read more for readability.
Consider this, The Dem politicians are scared shitless.
” If the Republicans take the House or perhaps even the Senate, what new norms will they inherit from the Democratic majority of 2019-2021?
Will Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) on national television ritually tear up the text of Joe Biden’s State of the Union Address and grimace while he speaks? Was that Speaker Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) intended vision of her new “narrative” for the 21st-century Congress?
Will the new majority, calling back to 2018, almost immediately begin impeaching an unpopular Biden? And will Republicans likewise dispense with a special counsel’s report, or with formal hearings with an array of witnesses with spirited cross-examinations?
Will they establish a special committee to investigate the rioting of summer 2020? Perhaps, in the new cannibalistic spirit of the age, will they dig into which national political figures—or colleagues—communicated with the Antifa or Black Lives Matter riot leaders, or offered them bail?
Will Speaker McCarthy veto Democratic committee members and instead appoint his own Democrats—on three criteria: one, that they have previously voted to impeach Biden; two, that either they cannot realistically again run for, or cannot conceivably be reelected to, the House; and three, that in advance they publicly praise and agree with McCarthy on the unwarranted virulence of the 2020 riots?
Will Republicans claim as reason to impeach Joe Biden that he failed to execute the laws as he swore to, by nullifying U.S immigration law? Was he not also guilty of an “abuse of power” and “obstructing Congress,” as he allowed 2 million aliens unlawfully to cross the southern border, during a pandemic without either testing or vaccinations, helping to spread the disease with reckless disregard? Will the new Congress subpoena generals to investigate the surrender and flight from Afghanistan, and especially who ordered it and why?
Would the Republicans follow the new norms and thus impeach a once-impeached and acquitted Biden a second time as he leaves office, and have the Senate try Biden in 2025 as a private citizen—again with neither a special counsel nor formal report—nor with the chief justice presiding over the trial, as the Constitution demands?
Will they appoint a special counsel to appoint a dream team of conservative lawyers? And would they allot a budget of $40 million and a lifespan of 22 months to get to the bottom of the Biden family pay-for-play syndicate, as federal investigators try to square Biden family expenditures and lifestyles with reported incomes?
Would such a counsel subpoena all the records of the Biden family, especially those concerning the financial labyrinth of Hunter Biden, to determine whether the Bidens registered as lobbyists for foreign governments, declared to the IRS their entire incomes, told the truth while under oath, or contacted public officials to influence U.S. foreign policy?
As far as “domestic terrorists”—who, according to Vice President Kamala Harris, rival the Imperial Japanese Navy’s killing of 2,400 Americans at Pearl Harbor or Bin Laden’s 9/11 hit team that murdered 3,000 civilians—should a bipartisan Warren Commission of distinguished citizens, without politicians of either party, be convened and entrusted to look at both the January 6 and summer 2020 riots?
The goal would be complete transparency: the FBI would turn over all records concerning the use of informants in both riots. Former Attorney General Merrick Garland would be called in to detail what the FBI did and did not do—as the investigation also queried the agency’s other efforts monitoring parents at school board meetings or serving as the Biden family clean-up and retrieval service.
All communications during days of riot between law enforcement and politicians, and within law enforcement, likewise would enter the public domain.
The violent deaths of Ashli Babbitt and more than 30 victims of the 2020 riots would be fully reinvestigated: who were the parties responsible for their deaths? Were they arrested, indicted, convicted, and incarcerated—or exempted? Would there be dozens of indictments, in Kyle Rittenhouse fashion?”
much more
https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/09/what-makes-riots-conspiracies-cabals-and-insurrections-good-or-bad/
👍🏻Excellent comment, well said!
I thank VDH from Ca.
He nails it.
Glad to see your getting under your own skin, and trying to rally spreadnecks in the process 😂
It’s called selective memory 🤣😂🤣
2 days before Jan.6 Trump authorized 20,000 NG. Pelosi never answered, and Bower turned them down.
At today’s hearing, The fbi refused to say they did not have a relationship with Epps.
So, are you saying the events described in the tweet are not true because they came from the “daily caller”. A source you don’t like..
Just curious?
Lock them up, if unlawful, maga or BLM fringe. See, Steve Parr? Get it yet? Probably not.
You mean this noose
Also, also, also, also, also, also, also, you.
Love the finger pointing. Rimme showed me a noose, I showed him a guillotine. Where’s the equity? 🤔🤣😂
How many health care workers were laid off that required the national guard to do what the city /County should be able to handle.
Right?
Australia has fired long term first responders and hired college students to fill in after a 3 day intensive.
Cant fix stupid. ..??
Let’s double down! !
Oops! Fucking around with shit trying to find who’d be dumb enough to downvote your comment, and I accidentally downvoted it myself. Damn. don’t take it personally, Lib.
Click the upvote and it removes your downvote.
How can he vote if he isn’t signed in?
He shouldn’t be able to if he isn’t signed in….
Kim. Right that’s my point. He is playing people. I have never seen him as signed in, ever. See my other replies to you on this page. Jesus Ms Kemp I respect you and it’s your right to debate who you want but …
Who cares?
She’s got bigger fish to fry.
There. I down-voted you. Satisfied?
I had been gone for awhile and things had changed around here.
And here you thought I was trying to out-fox you.
Mebbe I should have had one of my sock-puppets show me the ropes, eh?
Next time I’ll think of that.
Liberty Mutual where you been? Or Bats, Rabid Wolf meat, other countries scientists nobody’s quiet sure
War of the Bibles, war of all the world’s, war of words. The Weenie wars, you name it
Bear River has both PCR and rapid testing. Vaccines too!
Bear River? Is that in Oklahoma?
Has PCP etc. Available?
“Yup. It appears you have the flu. Now go home, rest and hydrate for 48 hrs like you have your entire life while having the flu. Thanks for the data sucka.$$$”
More like “Hi. 3 days ago you took a test. The results show that you were positive at that time. So you shouldn’t have been running around getting a test- you probably infected more people! And the best thing to do would have been not running around getting tested but to remain in bed resting and hydrating!! But now you should quarantine for another either 2 or 7 more days according to the CDC. Check their website- none of us really understand what they are saying anymore. I think it’s 2 days if you have a job in the airlines or medical care and 7 days for everybody else? Anyways thanks for getting the test- it makes us $$$ over here at LHI and we like $$$! And now you have the official result which you probably already knew and which really didn’t matter because, well…it’s days later and you’ve already decided and done what you thought was best anyways. Good Luck!”
Your job will only pay you for three days. Have fun paying for the heat this month!
Crack me up, so true, running around getting tested infecting everyone. Totally ingenious, sells wayyy more test kits this way.
They literally take a sample of your boogers and then test it for the COVID virus and then throw it away, the labs are much too busy to be doing anything else.
You can try driving back by the location you were tested & use sign language on them from the parking lot. Make sure you park 6 feet away from everyone & stay 6 feet away from location you were tested in & 6 feet away from anything or anybody else. Bring a fog horn to get their attention, even from across the street if site is busy
Clown world.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/clown-pepe-honk-honk-clown-world
Our local Nazis are whistling again.
🙄
Endemic status was always inevitable.. All the intervention in the world could not change that fact.
Let that sink in for a minute.
If we had this many pro-polio activists back in the day, you’ d be calling polio inevitable.
U.S. OUT OF HUMBOLDT
Oh, no. We need the Government to keep us safe.
With the overabundance of Karen’s we have here, there’s no need for government intervention.
Somethin about you can lead a horse to water, and trying to herd cats.. at this point, some folks are just being willfully ignorant.
Somethin about the road to hell being paved with gold..Good intentions will not avert the consequences of naivety.
Nobody ever thinks their the ones who in time will come to be on the wrong side of history.
The excuse that the best decisions were made based on the information made available to us at the time is simply that.. an excuse.
No virus will ever be more dangerous than the schema of a Statist mindset.
https://cormandrostenreview.com/retraction-request-letter-to-eurosurveillance-editorial-board/
Sure, I have led a horse and I have heard of cats.
That’s a whole lot of Scientology reading. Let’s keep it simple with Horses & Cats Champ. Love Animals.
They tested someone’s Grandma & say she tested positive for Parvo. Kennel Cough. They had to retest her because they forgot to use a Q tip anything can happen
So, this is becoming truly insane. All these paranoid people with the sniffles freaking out that they have the wuhan flu. It is the dead of winter, colds and flu happens. These hysteric based loons are not anybody you would want to be with in a real emergency situation. They are the exact types who if you went to save them when they were drowning, they would attempt to use the rescuer as the lifeboat, pushing him underwater while they gasp for air, and inevitably killing and drowning the golden goose who was there to save them in the first place. Take your COVID hysteria and send it via usps first class to that garbage pile in the White House, Brandon the diaper wearing, feeble minded, racist jackass.
Haven’t had the flu in years, or COVID. Thankfully
How’s everybody getting COVID?
From the vaccinated OBVIOUSLY.
There are soooo many vaxxed and boosted that are testing +, or home sick. Just like the annoying democratic darling AOC , who is HOME SICK with SYMPTOMS from a(nother) BREAKTHROUGH infection. When y’all going to say enough is enough?
It’s madness and mental illness. The “vaccines” and parade of boosters is a fucking sick joke at this point.
If you roll up your sleeve again and again and again you only have yourself to blame for this disaster , which, will you look at that, is playing 100% like the now cancelled famed virologists luc Montigier’s fucking forewarning . Vaxxing mid pandemic with a non immune producing injection spells disaster. Not going to bother pasting the data behind that logical theory no minds will be changed. Half y’all are fucking brain washed.
It’s demoralizing to see community members formerly appearing as logical thoughtful and intelligent people, with their double masks, AND BLINDERS on, waving every granny from the rafters , while injecting this mRNA “therapy” posing as a “vaccine” into the bodies of 5 year olds!
It’s reprehensible and the accountability for our impending future of “auto immune ” conditions and blood cancers remains to be seen. I personally think anyone advising another person to subject themselves to any medically treatment, or worse injects this garbage in their child holds the bulk of that responsibility.
Omicron is here and circulating. Seems New Years Eve gatherings have been a big spreader. Also, the numbers of infected people are much higher than reported. Its possible I know at least 4 households with Omicron, however in a house of 4, only 1 has been tested positive and the others are not getting tested. Everyone in the house has the same symptoms. They aren’t getting tested because the symptoms are so mild. It’s doesn’t even seem to be as bad as flus of the past. And I will add that the people I possibly know that are infected, all have been fully vaccinated. It’s my own personal opinion that it this point, the vaccination is not going to stop Omicron or ANY new variant that may surface.
Seems everyday life and routines are a big spreader. People need to stop hiding from the inevitable so we can get this over with
The only big spreader is FEAR. Fear is created by your imagination. Quit imagining these scary scenarios being played over and over hypnotizing you. Stop, think logically, find the answers yourself instead of listening to the news. Just go to cdc they will tell you on their site, pcr doesnt work, sars cov2 is a computer synthesized genetic sequence. Go to pfizer and they will tell you this vaxx does nothing more than potentially lessens symptoms but has a shit ton of side effects. Go to maderna, oh wait cdc holds joint patent with their vaxx. Oh shit and this vaxx is the only product they have ever created. Do your homework. Quit playing their game. Because you arent the player you’re just their game piece.
Also, also, also, also, also, also, also, also you.
“ Also, also, also, also, also, also, also, also you. ”
When this is all that the losing team can come up with, we know they’re in trouble. Looks like the losing team is dropping like flies 🤣
Credible data is indicating original and current vaccinations are only increasing the probability of variant contraction and infection. People who are the most vulnerable are In fact the vaccinated. The vaccinated are also suffering from extreme symptoms from these co-infections in contrast to the un-vaccinated. The most valuable variable in the scientific process is TIME. Time is reveling the exact opposite of what was sold to the public at the beginning of this experiment. Remember, this by definition is still in the experimental phase under an emergency use order. Reasonable observation of current data indicates vaccinations increase your likely hood and severity of contraction and infection. Let that sink in.
Not sure about the “extreme symptoms” in fact, it’s been the opposite. As far as big numbers of vaccinated people getting Omicron, it’s most likely because there are more vaccinated people than not and the vaccines have little to no defense from new variants. Also, it’s ridiculous that no tests are required for vaccinated individuals, but only for unvaccinated. Pretty sure vaccinated people that don’t feel sick, are spreading the omicron much more than unvaccinated. Someone can show up at a gathering fully vaccinated and attend without a test. There is a good chance that person is contagious with Omicron, but doesn’t know it because of such mild symptoms. I’m obviously no doctor, virologist or even educated LOL!
Janice – kindly provide a link to your source of information. This is the first time I hear that “current vaccination are only increasing…”.
You only have to look as far as the most recent per 100,000 case graph data.
It clearly shows that fully vaccinated individuals represent 1.7 times as many cases as the unvaccinated and partially vaccinated combined.
63 vs 37, respectively.
Quit falling for the hype people. If you dont have symptoms do you go to the doctor to see if u have the flu? PCR=does not diagnose. Rapid antigen test=does not diagnose. Both with read positive for all coronavirus’, common cold, bacterias, juice/soda, simply be false positive, etc.
You have more of a chance dying on the way to get a test than you do from this “covid”. If you’re getting vaxxed…well, i hope you have made all appropriate arrangements for your loved ones because you have a much higher chance of that taking you out.
Why are you people testing? A bit gullible are ya? Always so foolish? Idk, are you just role-playing? Maybe being a community safety warrior? What do you expect these tests to tell you? More testing does 1 thing. It creates more positive CASES. That doesn’t mean more people sick. Quit mistaking the two. Ya kinda like getting jabbed. What exactly does that do to protect you? You can still transmit, get sick, and also just from the jab you risk having side effects and death. Hmmm…i will stick with the most logical choice, that is not be afraid of “it”, not stick a toxic chemical soaked swab up my nose, and sure as hell not stick an unsafe, untested, bio-weapon that has killed more people than ALL other vaccines combined.
“not stick a toxic chemical soaked swab up my nose”
Mm, ok live.from.humboldt “not stick a toxic chemical soaked swab up my nose”, previous post.
How desperate are you and your belief system, that you have, what, 3, 4, 5, 6 names here? Pretty desperate.
This whole tread is a study in one persons psychosis. Must be a boring Sunday for him…
You caught that too, huh Rimme?
Delete your comment and come back with a new name. That’s one way to make it look like no one disagrees with you.
The many faces of:
live.from.humboldt
Gul Lible
live.from.humboldt’s comments were deleted by me. He previously used another name in the same post.
Oops, semi-apologies to “live…”.
Many thanks to you, Kym.
I used a different name because my comments didnt show up for a number of hours. So i logged in to disqus to see if it would work then. So not my fault nor was i trying to hide. Hence copy and pasting one of them.
Might not be your fault but, it is against the rules.
“More testing does 1 thing. It creates more positive CASES.”
So, the same goes for sobriety tests?
The lion doesn’t disappear when the ostrich sticks it’s head in the sand.
Ummmm…left feild. The swabs are SWABS. No toxic chemicals. Can be used for many different applications in the office. Have used at least 6 diffent types of swabs at testing events. Boxed in the thousands.
Takes 30 minutes in Cabo San lucas. But this is America.
95% of the comments in this thread are 1 person. Enjoy the show, pathetic as it is…
What percentage of the comments in this thread are two people claiming everyone else is the same person?
Inquiring minds want to know.
I really like F0X news comment sections compared to this.
Good job on the Infowars threads, people.
You make Kym proud to work her ass off for the shitbag ignorant comments.
Fox, Ao, Willie. I say we bounce for a month and let this be Kyms mess to figure out.
Really, who cares what these shitbags say to themselves.
Sure, now that the fully vaccinated cases greatly outnumber the, (unvaccinated and partially vaccinated cases combined), it’s time that you all bow out, however ungracefully, before you have a chance to not be able to explain it.
The tables have turned, just like I knew that they eventually would …
How is it that you account for over 63% of the cases for the last week have been fully vaccinated? 63%!!!
Or are those just more unconfirmed “reports” now?
And as far as explaining that goes,
I suppose you have “no comment”.
You still haven’t addressed how the reported vaccine deaths we’re so consistent per million doses.
Was that an organized conspiracy?
If it doesn’t fit your narrative just ignore the question.
The truth can be very inconvenient.
It’s one thing to push the envelope, the question is, is, what does one do when the envelope starts pushing back?
Clam up? Or is it time to start telling the truth? The new and improved truth, that is.
Exactly Guest the fully vaxxed now have almost twice the infection rate as the unvaxxed.
Time, time, time
See what’s become of me
While I looked around for my possibilities
– Paul Simon
Well said Guest. And still no data for the partially vaxxed.
The vaxxed are almost doubly infectious as the unvaxxed, locally.
We can only assume that the partially vaxxed are being infected at the same rate as the unvaccinated, right.
That’s how they want it done?
Fine.
It used to make being fully vaccinated look more effective against infection, but, alas, now the opposite is true.
Now it appears that being only partially vaccinated, along with being unvaccinated, would be a major advantage against infection.
Something ain’t addin’ up right.
I’m out. My last comment. This thread is what Kym is up against and it’s only going to get worse. Much worse. I have no idea what the solution is but Kym has my sympathies.
And you’re right, what kind of loser makes this his priority in life? Especially since everyone that’s not one of his sock puppets knows because it’s so obvious. Yep, watching someone talk to themself(s) is about as interesting as watching paint dry. See ya.
Your last comment until next comment? 😉
Have a good night
And yet here you still are.
We deserve full on Gestapo. We are that dumb. The bankers running all the totalitarianism are so much smarter than us, that we actually deserve what we are getting. Almost all my fellows are brainwashed beyond belief, to the left and the right. Just listen to the first sentence of this little clip about The Great Reset: https://youtu.be/60MzTlrOCXQ
Mass Formation Psychosis explained: Dr. Malone wrote about this collectivist nightmare in a Dec. 9 Substack post:
“What one observes with the mass hypnosis is that a large fraction of the population is completely unable to process new scientific data and facts demonstrating that they have been misled about the effectiveness and adverse impacts of mandatory mask use, lockdowns, and genetic vaccines that cause people’s bodies to make large amounts of biologically active coronavirus Spike protein.”
“Those hypnotized by this process are unable to recognize the lies and misrepresentations they are being bombarded with on a daily basis, and actively attack anyone who has the temerity to share information with them which contradicts the propaganda that they have come to embrace. And for those whose families and social networks have been torn apart by this process, and who find that close relatives and friends have ghosted them because they question the officially endorsed ‘truth’ and are actually following the scientific literature, this can be a source of deep anguish, sorrow and psychological pain.”
This methodology for political control has been in effect to a varying degree since the inception of our system. It’s a very powerful tool for mass cooperation. JFK to a certain extent threatened this leadership structure but was unsuccessful at changing the agenda. Since the rise of social media we as citizens have been subjected to this form of governance at an unprecedented rate. Both in real time and severity. Now that we’re witnessing the unilateral cooperation and partnership between big pharma, big tech, big government & big media to fast track, consolidate, control, sensor and distribute goods, services & information, we’re in for a big surprise as average civilians. And it’s happening quicker than any of us can comprehend at a rate beyond the typical persons ability to comprehend.
Now that people are acclimated to begging for tests, it’s time to acclimate them to having the NG in their backyards.
The boiling frog.
Historically curfews come first followed by approved or non approved travel followed by reporting your neighbor.
What is really shocking is the same people who believe there is a “Mass Formation Psychosis” because they do not believe the media stories that covid’s a serious illness when they never personally have seen it also firmly believe the covid vaccines are evil cabal plot because “genetic vaccines that cause people’s bodies to make large amounts of ” biologically active coronavirus Spike protein” when they have never seen that either. As if covid itself doesn’t produce ” biologically active coronavirus Spike protein ” but the vaccines do. They should talking about Malone where he says he caught covid, it became long covid and he got vaccinated hoping it would cure him but it didn’t when they talk about his expertise. That would put some perspective to almost the anti vaxxer’s sole heroic expert’s perspicacity.
Sooooo what you’re saying is that you believe the media🤔
Dr. Malone was vaccinated before he got COVID as you know but you stated he got a vaccine after he got COVID to attempt to disparage his scientific acumen. Dr. Malone worked for and with Jonas Salk. He is the expert on vaccines. Bubble burst, expert advice given.
“I rest my case your honor” – Dr. Malone
You do realize that coronavirus spike proteins are contained to the surface of the main viral body, which is hundreds of times bigger than the spike protein. While the mrna injections you received induced your own (hopefully) muscle cells to produce a number of individual spike protein molecules that are hundreds of times smaller than the typical viral molecule.
This is a difference you don’t seem to grasp.
Also, from the clips I heard, I would say that Dr Malone is not understanding the mass formation hypothesis correctly. Anyone who wants to understand the claim more clearly should find the various interviews with professor Mattias Desmet.
Go all the way back to my very first covid posts and count the times I’ve said more than one thing can be true at the same time.
When have you ever seen what a spike protein can do?
You certainly expect much more from the people you slur than you can produce in your posts.
If the virus is a bioweapon, it is then not your typical virus, and the jab is not a typical vaccine. Thankfully due to a lawsuit we no longer have to wait 75 yrs to find out more info.
The information about both is just now showing how many lies we’ve been told.
I said all along it would take time to understand what’s true and what isn’t.
Your generalizations are ridiculous..
Awesome! When do they start shooting?
Soon as local Jan6 types rush their door.
They’re marching in Chi rn. I hope when they bring their ‘tactical Best Buy clerks’ act up here they at least bring us some U-Hauls.
truely bizzare that we deploy the national guard to administer tests to americans when we didn’t deploy them to put down the leftist street violence cloaked as protesting, or the omnipresent race based violence, looting and homelessness that seems to be the shapeshifting norm in parts of america.
and just a reminder to progressives.. you claimed the nation state construct, with its borders, was racist yesterday.
How can the national guard be anything but cop thugs today?
defund the national guard?
All of those test samples represemt possible new mutated variants, and could potentially be new bioweapons.
Maybe the National Guard is providing security for them.
We wouldn’t want them falling into the wrong hands.
They’re busy protecting the Government from doughy retirees.
A skillfully-deployed walker can put out an eye.
That’s funny!
Rut Roh, the thumper contingent is here, commenting as a group. Y’know, the kind that employ verse, and Dr Seuss (!), to insinuate their being persecuted, then, to justify violence, suggest withholding medical care, etc. Peddlers, seeking additional adherents, to rush the doors, BOS microphone, mobile vax clinic. Be careful out there, a hardcover Bible hurts when hurled.
BIG MAC, anyone?
https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2022/jan/08/global-spread-of-autoimmune-disease-blamed-on-western-diet
“That means growing numbers of people face surgery or will have to have regular injections for the rest of their lives. It can be grim for patients and a massive strain on health services. Hence the urgent need to find new, effective treatments.”
It is hard to argue that fast food diets are bad for people. However it is not hard to argue against the misuse of that idea by conspiracists including anti vaxxers to blame people for suffering from an infection they believe doesn’t exist but, if it does, it’s self inflicted.
The same article you linked also says “If you don’t have a certain genetic susceptibility, you won’t necessarily get an autoimmune disease, no matter how many Big Macs you eat,” said Vinuesa. “There is not a lot we can do to halt the global spread of fast-food franchises. So instead, we are trying to understand the fundamental genetic mechanisms that underpin autoimmune diseases and make some people susceptible but others not. We want to tackle the issue at that level.” And why would there be such a genetic susceptibility? Because just a short time ago, much less than 100 years, the major problem of humanity was getting enough food to survive. Our genetics are designed to survive a lack of food, not an abundance of food. And all those people whose survival was genetically attuned to that, now have to learn to adapt to it. You know, the ones whose ancestors allowed commenters to be here to comment?
But guess what too? That is not the reason pandemics exist, conspiracy looney toons. They have existed for all of recorded history. Get over it. I suppose there is a genetic component to conspiracists too. The person who is every ready to react without thinking first was the one who escaped being eaten by predators. But just like over eating, lacking understanding and perspective is no longer a useful survival tool.
About 18 million people globally die a year from Heart Failure. A lot to unpack there but you’re definitely scratching the surface if the genuine conversation is about public health, safety and community compassion.
When it comes to over eating, consider this.
Soil that food is grown in is not properly fertilized by commercial fertilizers. Most soils no longer contain the trace minerals and other properties that maintain good health. Bioengineering and pesticides further destroy food as we once knew it.
Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that a person can eat and still have cravings due to the lack of components in the food that the body needs. So, instead of eating for nutrition, many now consume for enhanced flavor.
So, some people here tell you if you take supplements, you are better able to resist disease, and are less likely to look for that Big Mac.
Many people also do not want bioengineered vaccines introduced into their bodies for the same types of reasons.
The mandate started as one shot, now it’s multiple shots mandated with no end in site, and a some point you no longer are what you originally were, your natural defenses have been depleted by a non-organic fertilizer so to speak.
The future of medicine is to continue this trend, will the mandates continue as well?
Hope that’s not too conspiratorial for you.
Guaranteed to disturb the overeaters among us! Well said, HotCoffee.
So I guess we’ll be missing you soon?
Isn’t even worth commenting on anymore!!!
No it has very diminishing value. But, if the insane conspiracists are allowed to take over local sites like Kym’s, it expands like a disease. The holder’s of conspiracy beliefs can’t likely be persuaded to let go of them but how dangerous is it to allow them to be the only voice? Would their ideas become normalized? IDK but I do know that people who have refused vaccination and subsequently ended up seriously sick in ICUs have said it was because they listened to the anti vaxxers.
Spot-on
Who’s got the time? Not me. Have fun. He’ll drown you out in a barrage of sock puppet comments. This thread is a perfect example of his fun and games.
Good luck.
Vaccines haven’t been the panacea Fauci led us to expect. Now we need to reconsider all we’ve been fed.
Amen.
Former head of the UK vaccine task force calls for an end to vaccinations and live with COVID as an endemic affliction as are the flu and the common cold.
Dr. Clive Dix
Getting there, but don’t declare (pyrrhic) victory just yet. (Which is what anti-vaxxers are starting to do, as if they were right all along. Not. It’s more so that virus is running its course, and the vaxxes have saved lives and reduced suffering.) Facts count.
Thankfully, omicron doesn’t seem to have been more dangerous than Delta, just more infectious (a different kind of downer). The virus looks like it might continue to wane, so far as dangerous variant. Let’s hope no big new variant, a deadly one, makes the scene.
As to Dr. Dix, he was instrumental in helping pharma firms create the vaxxes, and, he supported the current booster campaign. Context counts, y’know.
It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings.
What he actually said was to stop the mass campaign for vaccination because variants made stopping it impossible. But instead, focus on the good vaccines do to prevent serious illness. It seems a reasonable statement as long as the next variant does not return to causing the serious illness that covid did previously. After all this has been a change of only two months duration and it takes time for governments to change course. If there is no future negative mutation, and the mass surge of omicron has waned, then it is likely that is what will happen. Duh!
And now that the latest variant is making people less ill, he said “Given Omicron is a much, much more mild variant now, it is pointless to keep giving more vaccines to people who are not going to get very ill. We should let them get ill. We should focus on why vaccines are good at stopping disease.”
“What we have seen as the variants have come about is that the vaccines are less effective at stopping infection and transmission, but they are very good still at stopping people getting a severe disease.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1547278/Covid-news-cases-Clive-Dix-endemic-pandemic-booster-latest-updates-vn
“it is pointless to keep giving more vaccines to people who are not going to get very ill. We should let them get ill.“
Plus one for natural immunity!! Plus one for vaccine hesitancy!!
A number of us have been saying that for months, about time science caught up.
Since it was decided that we should abandon social distancing, I have had a hard time giving a fuck about the virus. It’s either something to take seriously (in which case we should have social distancing and capacity limits) or it isn’t.
The decision to balance preventing spread with preserving VERY SHORT TERM economics has been disgusting and embarrassing. We could have had better economic and health outcomes if we had based policy strictly on preventing spread.
In retrospect, society would be collectively better off if we’d let covid run its course from the beginning
What total nonsense. If you feel sick, stay home. If you don’t feel sick, carry on.
Standing in line with a bunch of people who might be sick to see if your sick is totally ludicrous. Common sense is inversely proportional to the case load.
I thought 6 feet apart in the outdoors wearing masks looked pretty safe to me…Also, the folks I know try for the drive up version.
For me, It was nice to know that my mom who was exposed was negative so I could spend the day with her yesterday.
I was speaking in the broader sense of the national testing paranoia. Rapid testing from March of 2020 would have been smart. It’s endemic now so testing just drives the numbers up and induces unwarranted panic.
That’s really good news…
It is. It scared the tar out of me to find out that she had been hugged by a family member that later learned they had tested positive.
🤔🧐Now’s when a person might hope that the rumors about the false positives associated with the pcr tests might actually be true…🤷♂️
And it’s definitely scary when a family member tests positive. That’s got to be pretty nerve wracking, too.
I hope that all will be fine.
A hug? Are you ignoring the science again and taking big gulps of fear instead?
The imagined risk of “catching” a virus from a single hug “scared the tar”out of you? Damn Kym. Take a Xanax and read an actual book on viral transmission /risks. Because I promise you a single hug won’t be in it.
You have a point. Even the, “experts,” say you have to be in close proximity with an infected person for at least 15 minutes to be considered, “exposed.” But no one pays any attention to that pesky little fact.
Let’s see…in my brother’s household one person tested positive. There are a large number of people who pass through his household regularly, and they’re all big huggers. No one else tested positive. Another brother has six children, and some of them have children. Some of his children still live at home, and they are all close.
He came down with Covid recently, yet no one else in his house tested positive. The same pattern has been repeated at other households I’m aware of.
At two other households I know of, everyone tested positive, but most developed no or mild symptoms.
Methinks the fear of catching Covid, and the irrational belief that it is a death sentence for old people, can only be explained by Mass Hypnosis. It is not supported by the facts.
I have a sore throat I’m hoping to get a negative test to tell me that I don’t
Wow, the National Guard help for testing really triggered the right-wing reactionaries based on the sheer number of nonsense comments on this.
For those who fail to grasp the concept — more people getting sick means more people needing tests. That comes on top of the people who need proof of negative tests for school, jobs or travel. Small departments (like public health) or smaller testing centers are having trouble dealing with the rush, especially when they have staff that is getting sick.
Omicron is a lot more contagious among the vaccinated than previous variants. So far though, it appears that while vaccinated people are getting COVID-Omicron, they aren’t ending up the hospital or dead from it, at least not at high numbers. The unvaccinated are also getting COVID but do seem to be still getting hospitalized (and dead) at higher rates which is taxing resources.
Everyone wishes this were over. It isn’t yet but likely will be manageable in a few more weeks if the case load in South Africa is any indicator.
I’d recommend taking a gander at the sub-reddit r/nursing to get an idea of what’s really going on.
I seriously doubt it with deltacron on the horizon
“Deltacron” lol you know it’s not even a thing because that’s not how they name viruses.
That’s what they named that one.
Meh
https://www.newsweek.com/what-deltacron-scientist-covid-discovery-new-strain-1667252
Doesn’t change what the scientist named it…
From the story
“Late last month, Peacock also explained that any alleged new strains should be detected in multiple labs before being classified.”
It has not been detected in multiple labs
Furthermore
“He also expressed doubt about the timing because “true recombinants” do not tend to appear until a fewweeks or months after there’s been substantial co-circulation of multiple variants.”
Still doesn’t change what the scientist dubbed it…Are you saying he didn’t call it that?
I’m saying it doesn’t make it if any interest or formally recognized by the larger scientific community unless it is detected in multiple labs which it hasn’t. It’s more fear porn.
Is this hard to understand?
The scientist dubbed it
Deltacron. Post all the news articles you want. Doesn’t change what he said. What part of this don’t you understand?
Great, the clues are now coming from Professor Peacock?
Oh, and then there is this, lol 😆
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/01/10/deltacron-variant-prompts-doubts-among-experts-as-possible-lab-error.html
And the looming horror of flurona.
😱🤯 good thing I bought up all the 🧻 in the county . If anyone needs asswipe, hit me up 😉
Finally, the data ( we sane people) have been waiting for. Asking questions like this even a few months ago labeled you a conspiracy theorist , possibly banned from social media.
So cool when you use multiple names you can post more that one stupid meme…
I don’t use multiple names and that’s not a meme.
It not a link. It’s not a screen shot. It’s repetition of a screen shot. So yes, it’s a meme.
You don’t know what a meme is
Here is your link to the screenshot that i posted with the video.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1480207649807507458?s=20
Here is the definition of a meme
“ A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme.”
So no noooooooo. What i posted isn’t a meme
The rule on screenshots hasn’t been clarified.
I’ve been wondering about that…
A screenshot is definitely not necessarily a meme…
But then there are screenshots of memes…
And screenshots of cartoons
My friend, I do firmly think Mega Me is a one name commentor.
I know my role in the name game stories, and though I have had more than enough merit to post my comments, we do need to also be able to establish those who are who they are.
Mega me, you’re ok, thanks for sticking with one name for a while.
✌out .
I’ll add:
I hope all commentors try to help Kym out, and NOT antagonize the situation that Kym has already stated is her bane. However, I know a few will not comply.
Kym really is stressed out, and the comments are a huge factor. I hope me stepping away will help her out.
However, and most likely, I’ve seen too many great and rational commentors bow out of the madness, while the madness expands.
Think of Kym y’all, when she goes, you all go.
✌out .
“Disinformation moves at the speed of social media; fact-checking is still stuck in an analog age” – @jsrailton
But, but, but, why so many more vaccinated cases than unvaccinated cases?
What’s everyone gonna think if you don’t answer?
And have you really been only commenting under one name per post?
Exactly.
Take heart, I think we are driving one of them insane..
Steve Parr
17 hours ago
Reply to grey fox
“You accused me of being someone from two years ago who said, “methinks,” leading me to believe you are demented. Are you saying that because I thought it, it is so.”
Not even sure what he is talking about….
I saw that. Now he can’t figure out the oh so very hard thumb vote system.
Quite a moderator he must be.
Be good out there FOX.
I really enjoyed your comments. Don’t waste too much time for nothing.
🤜🤛
I’m sticking with this name I’ve missed ly had Mrs and Mrs I’m not trying to antagonize the situation any further than what I do already. I do appreciate everyone’s opinions even though I dont agree. I think it’s easy yo get carried away on the internet and this is definitely one of the more emotional topics unfortunately.
GRAND THEFT of our HEALTH CODE
Yeah, they all sound the same to me, wonder why. I don’t have the time or inclination to study them all. I just know Kym has her hands full with one main troll…
Main troll… that’s comedy gold! 😊
🤜🤛
Be good out the YS.
Indeed, at a point, one sounds like the other.
🖖
Bret is the only sane one at Fox, after he retires Fox will be a joke like it is viewed in every other country. hopefully you can handle the results. i suspect you won’t.
“hopefully you can handle the results. i suspect you won’t.”
Uh, ok ?
She says 40% of the hospitalizations are “with” not “from” covid so doesn’t that imply 40% of deaths are also “with” not “from”?
I can’t speak to nationally but locally Dr. Hoffman said, “what we report on a daily basis is hospitalizations so our daily hospitalization report and the daily case count are only Humboldt County residents…who are hospitalized. And that number is different than the number of people who are in the hospital with COVID because some of those patients who are in the hospital are not Humboldt County residents…We’re only reporting people who are COVID positive and in the hospital for a reason related to COVID, not that they’re there incidentally for something else. As far as the other numbers, those are all encompassing anyone who’s in a bed, in a hospital, who’s COVID positive. The majority of them are there for COVID reasons, but there are some that are not. But they still take up resources, and so we have to follow them closely as Public Health, because they’re using a bed that is in isolation, …the staffing there has to be using isolation procedures including a lot of PPE, and it’s extra work for everyone to take care of those patients in the hospital, even when they’re not there for COVID.” https://kymkemp.com/2022/01/06/first-covid-19-press-conference-of-2022-covers-testing-shortage-covid-stats-omicron-genomic-sequencing-and-more/
Good point, mlr, I was wondering about that also. If they died in the hospital with Covid19, and not from Covid19, what would the death certificate say, if they died in the hospital?
Just to be clear…a mask is not that difficult to breathe through…some folks actually forget they have it on. Others have hearing aids etc that make taking it off more complex and still others are avoiding touching the outside for the short distance between one stop and another.
Many people with allergies or sinus problems are mouth breathers.
Snip from
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7490318/
Effects of Prolonged Use of Facemask on Healthcare Workers in Tertiary Care Hospital During COVID-19 Pandemic
Simulated nasal breathing while performing moderate exercise in a comfortable surrounding showed that conditioning capacity of air decreased to 11% due to brief existence of inspired air in the nose. When the effort increases, the air conditioning capacity significantly decreases [11]. Another study stated that temperature and the quantity of water delivered by expired air is notably higher with mouth breathing in comparsion with nasal breathing. Therefore the net respiratory heat loss is higher with oro-nasal breathing than nasal breathing during exercise [12]. In our study also we assessed that about 58.2% of the participants had trouble breathing on exertion with the facemasks on.
Afraid, of a Q-tip 😂
I don’t mind the anti-vaxxers claiming their constitutional right to die of covid…but I sure object to them taking me with them.
Your talking points are so 15 months ago 🙄😆
If you are vaccinated, your bigger worry now would be getting Covid19 from a vaccinated person.
But since your vaccinated, you shouldn’t have to worry that much right?
Smashing records
Exactly, “if you are vaccinated, your bigger worry now would be getting Covid19 from a vaccinated person.”
If Heaven is a better place, their just trying to help you out.
I thought this was a serious article till I got to the next to the last paragraph about the US Army looking for a rental car to get here……. only then did I realize it was satire, poking fun at the feds and their total failure in organizing a response to COVID.
If people wouldn’t rush to get tested for sniffles then we wouldn’t be in this position.
There wouldn’t be prostitution either
Good lord! There is no embarrassing misunderstanding that an anti masker will not stoop? Here one for you- it’s a man wearing a mask after spending 19 days in the hospital on a ventilator.
“More testing does 1 thing. It creates more positive CASES.”
So, the same goes for sobriety test?
The lion doesn’t disappear when the ostrich sticks it’s head in the sand.
Ex-Kazakh security chief (and Joe and Hunters business partners) arrested on suspicion of ‘high treason’
https://www.rt.com/russia/545442-kazakhstan-security-chief-arrested-treason/
“Karim Masimov, the former chief of Kazakhstan’s National Security Committee (KNB) was arrested earlier this week along with other unidentified suspects as part of a probe into “high treason,” the security agency said on Saturday.
The KNB had launched a pre-trial investigation on January 6, it said in a statement, adding that its former chairman, Masimov, and others had been arrested and placed in pre-trial detention on the same day. The agency provided no further details on the case, citing the ongoing investigation.”
Some other links regarding partnerships.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/photo-biden-meets-hunters-alleged-partner-from-kazakhstan/
t.me/PatriotVoiceOfficial/18264
So, now we can all see the events unfolding in Kazakhstan is not a Soros lead color revolution, but rather White Hats cleaning out the Cabal.
Fake media saying it’s all about gas prices. I read yesterday the purebloods were denied access to their bank accounts.
Judge Gives FDA 8 Months to Release Pfizer Vaccine Data After Agency Requested 75 Years
breitbart.com/science/2022/01/08/judge-gives-fda-8-months-to-release-pfizer-vaccine-data-after-agency-requested-75-years/
Fixed the title
Breitbart?
🤔
😂
They really believe it. After all its not the “fake media”in their minds.
Here’s the same story from Reuters.
I guess it’s fake too
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/
Reuters? Isn’t that a German name?
“Combat”? the surge in testing? Is that really the best word to use to describe the situation?
It’s part of “de ploy”.
More info. for your statistics.
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky — “The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least four co-morbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with.”
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/75-percent-of-covid-deaths-have-4-co-morbidities/
That actually makes sense.
Haven’t some people been saying that all along?
Here’s what makes it “add up” even more…
Well, I mean, what might corroborate Walensky saying 836,000 was a 75% overcount…
The US has 4.20% of the World’s population.
But somehow, after all we have done to combat Covid19, we have supposedly had 836,000 Covid19 deaths, which represents 15.23% of the World’s Covid19 deaths.
If we subtract the 75% that Walensky suggests is an overcount, then we divide 15.23% by 4, and get 3.81% of the World’s Covid19 deaths…
3.81% would be our proper proportion of 4.20%, minus the 0.39%, saved by our efforts to combat Covid19.
Now it looks like our efforts to combat Covid19 actually did some good!
With everything combined that we did to fight Covid19, it looks like we saved about 21,483 extra American lives, compared to how well the rest of the World did.
Makes a lot more sense now doesn’t it.
Thank you for all the tracking you’ve been doing!
I’m not sure what happens when you include the over estimation of children in the hospitals, when it’s actually 3,000 or so.
How many hospitalized have 4 comorbidities or more?
Your welcome.
Yeah, ☕, I see what you are saying about excess hospitalizations…
I’m not sure of the hospitalizations that the SC Justice mentioned were ever even in the official tally…
I did crunch the numbers of US hospitalizations, against our 4.20% of the population, as well…
We have 19.61% of the World’s cases. (60.2m). 19.58% if you subtract Sotomayor’s 100,000 from that.
4.67 times our fair share of the world’s cases. (4.66 times without the 100,000)
So what gives there?
Another mass overcount?
Faulty tests?
Mitigations and vaccines quadrupled cases, and then some?
Was Covid19 in the US the longest by far?
What explains the massively excessive cases in the US?
So now only 25% of the deaths really count as Covid deaths? How silly can this get? We’ve all been played…
The truth just keeps trickling out. 🙂
I can’t believe you guys don’t understand that Director Walensky is not saying that!
Look. Excess deaths spike when COVID deaths spike. That shows that likely there are more deaths FROM COVID than are actually being counted.
https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1479561539413753860/photo/1
That doesn’t show that the deaths are from Covid19, at all.
You refuse to believe VAERS, but cling to some unconfirmed report of excess deaths as proof that Covid19 deaths have been undercounted? Isn’t that a double standard? Wholly dismissing VAERS reported deaths, but insisting that we should blindly accept Twitter information as fact?
We are now at 3.9 times our share of the World’s Covid19 deaths.
How can you claim that we’ve actually done worse, and at the same time, claim that everything we have been doing to stop Covid19 has been working miraculously, and saved countless lives.
Have we saved so many lives, and are doing miraculously, but are still doing 3.9 times worse than the rest of the world?
Or is it an undercount, and we’re doing even worse than 3.9 times worse than the rest of the World, but still, everything we have done has saved an incredible amount of lives?
Which is it?
Have you ever considered that when Covid19 deaths spike, many of the victims spouses or family members lose the will to live, and that is what the additional deaths have to do with? Deaths of despair?
We are re supposed to believe some random named DKThompson on Twitter?
But VAERS deaths are only unproven reports? SMH.
It’s just as plausible that excess deaths could be indicative of some other widespread malady, like RSV, that might better explain why we are seeing spikes in deaths. Maybe they are really mistakingly being attributed to Covid19, when they are really from something else like RSV?
That’s the other side of the coin of your theory, that the excess deaths can only reasonably be attributed to Covid19, because they are co-occuring.
I take you don’t know that if you click someone’s name on Twitter, you can see who they are. Derek Thompson is a senior staff writer at the Atlantic, which is a prestigious journalism job. He’s a rising star. But you really want to know about the graph being accurate, right? It’s a graph from Our World in Data which has won the Lovie Award and has numerous kudos for being highly factual. It says where it came from in the upper right corner.
And of course it is vaguely possible that a spike in COVID deaths are mirrored by spikes in excess deaths caused by something random like auto accidents. It’s unlikely but I suppose it is faintly possible. I just hear hoofbeats and think horses not zebras.
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Yeah but when you’re talking about a respiratory virus why don’t you think co-occuring RSV?
And or co-occuring flu, or co-occuring pneumonia? Or a co-occuring common cold?
Because co-occuring infections would exactly mimic Covid19 spikes!
But you see, it could be the Covid19 that’s also co-occuring.
So in this case the horsebeats you keep hearing, (coincidentally timed excess deaths from other than Covid19, that would be explained by them being from other respiratory virus outbreaks) and keep insisting could only be Zebras, (Covid19).
If you are already convinced of something (Zebras), your not going to keep looking, even though you don’t see any Zebras.
And yeah, I guess VAERS hasn’t won any “prestigious journalism awards”.
And the main reason I even brought up deaths of despair, is that at least you’ve acknowledged it before. But not anymore, I guess.
But what you haven’t ever acknowledged, ever, and I’ve asked you 4 or 5 times, this makes at least 5 or 6, is how we can have excessive deaths to the tune of 3.9 times, such effective mitigation and treatments that saved so many lives, and a vast death undercount, all at the same time?
That you won’t touch.
Because it doesn’t add up.
And because that’s were the zebra thing goes out the window.
So you just avoid it, rather than address it.
Here is a graph for another respiratory virus, RSV, for your consideration…
Could it be contributing to the excess deaths?
Could it be co-occuring with Covid19, making both more severe?
Does the timing look right?
It would help if you provided a link. I can’t see the dateline.
I will try. I type them by hand, and it’s a hassle. Buy since you, asked, thank you, might take a minute.
Basically that graph is from 1/1/2020, to 12/31/21.
If you are working off an android phone, try this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-copy-and-paste-text-android
Thanks, but this one is an easy one to type out…
https://www.cdc.gov/surveillance/rsv/natl-trend.html
And here is the other end of that graph from a little earlier,
9/14/2019 to 8/26 or 28/2021. Tap on it for a little more info from a Fox article…
(Both graphs are from the CDC).
Thank you for the consideration.
I noticed something else, that on your Twitter graph, from World-o-meter. The second peak, (the shortest peak), fell outside of the RSV peaks, (or outbreaks, if you will).
This may suggest that during a Covid19 outbreak, by itself, without a co-occuring RSV outbreak, Covid19 might not affect people so severely, and consequently might not lead to so many deaths.
Could Covid19 not be as severe, when not in combination with an RSV outbreak?
It looks that way to me…
The Covid19 outbreaks, within RSV outbreaks, as you can plainly see, look like they may lead to increased mortality from Covid19.
That adds up.
Maybe it’s true?
It actually makes sense.
Could RSV be where those additional excess deaths are coming from, and not Covid19?
By the way, they have been working on an RSV vaccine, unsuccessfully, and sometimes tragically, for maybe 60 years.
They are about to reveal another one…
Please, do note, Kym, that the first spike in your Twitter graph coincides, (or co-occurs), with the spike in the RSV cases on the left, and the third and fourth spike on your Twitter graph, coincides, (or co-occurs), WITHIN the spike on the right of the RSV graph!
That spike in RSV cases you see on the right of the graph represents all of 2021!
Spikes in RSV are the hoofbeats you are hearing, but you keep insisting they are leaving COVID tracks.
Is that objective and impartial, two of journalism’s most important criteria?
I believe the graph I just showed you, indicates that it’s possible that RSV and Covid19, could be co-infecting people, and therefore could be increasing the apparent severity Covid19, and it’s Covid that’s being attributed to the problem, and the impact that RSV is responsible for is getting ignored.
I also believe that it’s a journalists duty to give it proper objective, impartial consideration, and look at the facts, rather than to simply dismiss it out of hand, as being just another nutty, wacko conspiracy theory, because they have already made up their mind.
That’s were those rising stars and awards are born…
Your Twitter graph.
Kym,
I added some more pertinent information to my assertion down below. I hope that you will give it proper consideration.
Thank you.
I take it that you are aware that many of the deaths attributed to the 1918 Spanish Flu were associated with co-occuring bacterial pneumonia from like four different strains…
Here’s some more interesting onfo. anout the studies being done.
Medical experts shred latest CDC COVID-19 study, even as agency director echoes lockdown skeptics
COVID-diabetes study would “never pass peer review in this form,” said former Harvard Med School dean. “CDC must do better.”
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/cdc-director-echoes-covid-lockdown-skeptics-even-agency-promotes
It’s a quote from her own mouth.
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky — “The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least four co-morbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with.”
Last Sunday to Fox news Sunday.
I wonder how often one of those 4 comorbidities was RSV?
I also wonder how much than 75% had more than 4 comorbidities?
Then the question just sort of follows, how many of them had 3, 2, or 1, comorbidities?
Did the vast majority have at least one?
It sure seems likely.
Wasn’t there a rumor going around that only 6% actually died FROM Covid19?
That’s starting to make allot more sense, now.
I think all the data is so corrupted, that it’s hard to know what it is definitively.
Much other info., we needed was abruptly stopped mid-trial regarding treatments, many things don’t add up.
She didn’t answer, she deflected.
She said that data would be forthcoming…
Correct.
part of “de ploy”… that is so on the money
Thanks.
Usually Kym appreciates a good pun, too…
“Combat”, and “deploy”, are a little strong for me, as far as just assisting a surge in testing.
But “combat”, and “deploy”, do work for me, “in the battle against Covid19”.
“Omicron” is “making a push”, and and “Delta” is still causing casualties.
We need better “weapons” if we are to stop them.
Ours are “duds”.
Who or what needs to be stopped, that is the question. I know that common sense got stopped in its tracks. Hasn’t been seen nor heard from since the CDC and the Health Department started running the show.
It sounds like there are bills in 11 states that would give the health department powers to detain people in internment camps for 30days, and deputize anyone the want to enforce these emergency measures.
So, let’s figure out who is for health and freedom, or for punishment and imprisonment.
If you have unvaccinated friends or family, this might be a time to decide who you respect more, the hoverment or your tribe.
I recall a few years back, the government passing out ammo to agencies that seemed quite strange, such as The Health Dept. Social Services and others. At the time, people couldn’t figure out why they would need it.
brownstone.org/articles/it-is-time-to-face-reality-about-the-vaccines/” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>It Is Time to Face Reality about the Vaccines ⋆ Brownstone Institute
COVID 19, Omicron, Condor virus should be next. That should get alot of people to Heaven swiftly with National Guard help sounds great. Before Isis tries to get us all wearing makeup
If all the vapid comments = time to plan/act to begin fixing our communities with positive action great things would be happening. Instead we have this culture. Fighiting about individual perceptions. SMH. The one eyed one horned flying purple people eater is REAL. Cripe…
Hey Kym….
It seems Project Veritas And James O’Keefe have been breaking some pretty big stories and it seem they now considered legitimate investigative journalists (even by lefties).
Are you allowing links from PV here?
I know you’re busy and do not want to make your job any harder than it is.
TY
“Project Veritas is a conservative media organization dedicated to secretly infiltrating progressive
organizations to produce unflattering and often selectively edited videos. Project Veritas operates under
the guise of citizen journalism, but serves a conservative political agenda without adhering to basic
journalistic ethics.” That would be no.
Here’s a relatively recent article about Project Veritas deliberately provoking a situation and then misleading the public about what occurred. https://nj1015.com/misleading-project-veritas-video-wrongly-claims-illegal-voting-in-nj/
What are, “basic journalistic ethics”, besides objectivity, impartiality, and accuracy?