COVID Outbreak at South Fork Shuts Down Cubs Chance at NCS
A COVID outbreak at South Fork High School in Miranda is forcing the Cubs to forego playing at North Coast Section Football Championships (NCS).
According to a letter being sent out from the Southern Humboldt Unified School District, “[A] number of South Fork High School students are in quarantine or isolation and the football game was canceled due to an outbreak of COVID-19 infections in our community.”
Superintendent Stephanie Steffano-Davis told us during a phone interview, “It is really sad that the kids have to lose their game. But she said, “It is an outbreak and it is more than three [students infected]” and she explained the school has to follow the guidelines of the CDC and the California Department of Public Health.
According to an individual close to the situation, just a few of the football players tested positive but many of the student athletes in that sport and others have to be quarantined because of close contact with an infected student. The infections don’t so far appear to have been passed in the school setting.
According to Steffano-Davis, “At this point it is clear that the infections are linked to gatherings outside of school and not to the school itself…It is community based.”
Steffano-Davis said that on Monday, “There will be [COVID] testing for kids on modified quarantine and for those who come up as close contacts [of those who tested positive].”
She explained, “School is considered to be an essential activity” and students who have been exposed but not tested positive can attend school under these guidelines:
[U]nvaccinated students who are close contacts (more than 15 minutes over a 24-hour period within 0-6 feet) may undergo a modified quarantine as follows. They may continue to attend school for in-person instruction if they:
- Are asymptomatic;
- Continue to appropriately mask, as required;
- Undergo at least twice weekly testing during quarantine; and
- Continue to quarantine for all extracurricular activities at school, including sports, and activities within the community setting.
Steffano-Davis urges the community to work together. “I want everyone to be a team for our kids,” she said. “Parents, staff, and community all work together to keep ourselves as healthy as we can be. Schools are required to follow the public health guidelines as our part in keeping everybody healthy.”
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Actually he wasn’t the sol inventor. But he was on the team.
761,000 dead Americans miss your point.
Nobody “invented” mRNA.
Of course not, but Dr Malone is a primary figure in the invention of the synthetic mrna technology that underpins the most famous of these vaccines.
Such a meme does however mean the purveyor does not know what mRNA is, what Dr. Malone did 40 years ago nor even what misinformation is since the meme itself is misinformed.
??Bummer. ??
The percentage of hospitalizations that are post-vaccination for the last week is 46.37%.
With only one Covid19 death for the period, and that one person having been unvaccinated, I gotta admit, deaths are 100% unvaccinated…
Way to sympathize with the football players that put in a lot of hard work to get to that game and will now lose that chance. I am sure they appreciate your comment
Get serious.
Must be why the vaccinated are always crying about unmasked and unvaccinated people, the horror! 3 kids have covid ,how many of them hospitalized? Shut it down now, crack me up .
“All of the five hospitalizations reported over the last week were unvaccinated residents. Age ranges of reported hospitalizations are as follows: 1 person in their 30s, 1 person in their 40s,1 person in their 60s, 2 people in their 70s.” https://kymkemp.com/2021/11/12/45-new-cases-reported-since-wednesday-pediatric-clinics-available/
My apologies,
I was referencing case rates apparently, not hospitalizations.
Looks like 100% unvaccinated hospitalizations this week, along with 100% unvaccinated deaths.
1 fatality, how old? The shear terror , this pandemic is going to kill everyone, only 329.3million people in the US have escape it ,terrifying isn’t it. Buy tp now!
If all Americans had COVID at the same time. It would equate to 6 million dead Americans in one year. 6 million dead Americans in the second year. 6 million dead Americans in the third year! The number does not decrease because you use the wrong statistical formula. It just proves you as a human should take a statistics class. So if your gonna use the whole US population then you should use the proper amount of deaths that would occur which is 6 million.
You still haven’t learned what the difference between the IFR and CFR is? Cmon man.
If all Americans got infected at once (not how infectious disease works) it would mean between 900,000-1,200,000 dead.
At least learn the basics before lecturing others about statistics classes
Are you not preaching 700000 fatalities? Is that not all of the US? 330,000,000 people, never said they were all infected, maybe take a reading and comprehension class , crack me up. BTW statistics class is a waste of time if you have any common sense.
lol, common sense wins the day over statistics does it? Everything you need to know about these jokers right there in that comment.
A class in statistics would make it clear that common sense is rarely applied.
Thanks, Kym, for enlightening us. You give me hope.
I hope there’s nobody 30 years old in high school ??let the kids play
Don’t you worry about those teachers, janitors, support staff, they aren’t really important anyway. (Also, kids do get sick and die just at rates more comparable to say meningitis–which we also have quarantines for when there’s an outbreak in a school)
Kym, some of the support staff at MJH/SFHS do not wear masks on campus or only wear them part of the time. I have never seen the janitor with a mask on, so that shows you how concerned they are about this. Teachers are vaccinated, they are choosing to work in the classroom. We have vacancies in SHUSD for remote teaching positions for independent study. Teachers concerned about Covid could take one of those positions and yet they are not. So they must not be too afraid is the assumption I am making. I am subbing there and I am not afraid and have already had Covid as have many others.
Are we going to do this testing and quarantine thing forever? And at what cost? Because currently an overwhelming majority of the kids at SFHS cannot even do BASIC MATH, have no extracurricular activities, almost no electives, no clubs.
We are not creating an environment for the kids in this community that allows kids to thrive, and sure “we’re keeping people alive” but there are certain things that MAKE LIFE WORTH LIVING.
It’s time to get on with living because we are creating so many secondary MAJOR problems with our belief that life should be protected AT ALL COSTS. Not everyone agrees with that sentiment. And we are clear on the risk factors for covid death. Obesity, diabetes, and old age make up the population at risk. There are many therapeutics for covid as well.
Let’s start focusing on protecting high risk individuals, rather than letting our CHILDREN who survive covid at a rate of 100% in our community suffer in the name of protecting the few who are vulnerable. I’m sure someone will say that sounds heartless, but that is where differences of opinion come into play. I think what we are doing to our children is heartless and I know I am not alone with that thought.
“…life should be protected AT ALL COSTS. Not everyone agrees with that sentiment.” WOW you just went sociopathic.
“WOW you just went sociopathic”
How do you figure? There are SO MANY examples of where we do not live our lives with a “protect life at all costs mentality” and yet so many seem to have this mentality as it pertains to Covid. For example, it would be MUCH safer if the speed limit was 25 mph everywhere. We would save SO MANY LIVES if vehicles were made so that they cannot exceed 25 mph. But in reality, we accept that a certain amount of vehicle fatalities will occur and we are willing to trade that for the sake of quality of life. I could go and on and on with examples where we choose quality of life over protecting life at all costs.
We know enough about this disease at this point and have enough information to make risk assessments. What is sociopathic is how we are treating the children and the chronic underfunding and lack of support for education. Again, two years now. I don’t know of a single child in SHUSD that has been hospitalized or has died from Covid. But I have heard of numerous teens in the community who are struggling with substance use, depression, have considered suicide, and now have even LESS opportunities in our community. It’s sociopathic to not start moving on with life for the sake of our children and to force everyone to comply with your fear.
Does anyone know why there are no clubs at South Fork, but there is a football team? It seems like the clubs would be far less of a COVID-spreading risk than football is. Is it just because there are no teachers willing to supervise the clubs, or…?
It doesn’t have to do with the teachers, and the teachers literally CANNOT take on one more task–they are all maxed out. I have offered to the district ideas for getting some clubs back on campus. I am willing to help support the coordination and outreach for this. I have been trying for four weeks to organize an open forum meeting for stakeholders. A meeting that does not limit stakeholders to 3 minutes of public comment, but rather, a meeting that allows for open conversation and problem-solving. Parents are being shut out for a variety of reasons, namely Covid. Even though the policies are so contradictory and make no sense on so many levels. For example, my child is in a 5th grade class of over 40 students. I believe there are 45 people (adults and children) in a classroom designed for 33. There is no covid testing happening in this classroom yet we might have to do covid testing for SHYBL even though these kids are all together in school every day? This makes ZERO sense. There is a board meeting on November 18th and Redway School. I hope every concerned parent shows up. Open session typically begins at around 4:30 pm, depending on the length of the closed session meeting that begins at 3pm.
Change is hard.
Yes, change is hard. What exactly is your point though? Do you have school-age children in SHUSD? Or grandchildren? Are you okay with how education is going in California? Are you okay with the fact that education is on the verge of collapse? Should we all just accept “that change is hard” with whatever comes our way? No, thanks. An offering: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
Change is hard
Whether you are choosing the change or it is choosing you…
Don’t stress your kids out.
Lead by example.
Thanks, Brian. But I’m not sure what you are suggesting when you say lead by example? That’s exactly what I’m doing, leading by example. Would you instead prefer that I stop talking about the issues and keep my mouth shut? To not speak about serious issues because I might stress the kids out? Is this what you mean by lead by example? So glad I was not raised by a man like you, but rather, a man that taught me to educate myself, speak to issues I care about, and take action where I can. Raised by a man with INTEGRITY and a SPINE.
Seems like you are suggesting that I should keep quiet so that people like YOU can have the ILLUSION of safety while our children’s education and mental health continue to suffer. Because I certainly don’t see you keeping your mouth shut, Brian. You have something to say about everything here on Kym Kemp.
There is no substitute teacher by your name at the school.
“There is no substitute teacher by your name at the school.”
Wow, Brian. This is getting kind of creepy.
Following up on me? and WHY?
Regardless, you obviously did not try very hard. I’ve worked off and on in the SHUSD for over 15 years. As a full-time teacher, BTSA support provider, school board member, substitute. I have also worked at Skyfish. I have been involved in fundraising with FOWS, PTSA, Boosters.
It’s clear you are not involved in the schools, as it’s not very hard to verify my identity. Are you attempting to undermine the validity of my opinions and arguments by accusing me of falsifying my identity? Or what are you doing here, Brian?
There are red flags of my own coming up reading your comments.
I wanted to try to verify your story.
That’s not creepy, that’s called not believing everything you read on the web.
That said I could easily be wrong, I didn’t try hard.
My apologies, Brian. I am a little defensive for reasons I don’t need to get into here. But I appreciate you attempting to “fact-check” whether or not I am speaking from a place of knowing or if I am just another internet troll trying to push an agenda.
I’m not sure what red flags you are speaking of, but if you are sincerely questioning my identity I invite you to call the district office tomorrow. 943-1789. Tori, Vanessa, Stephanie, Saundi…any of the ladies that work in the district office will be able to verify that, indeed, I am currently very involved with the district as a substitute, parent, and volunteer (they can also all verify that I worked as a fulltime teacher in the district for 8 years and that I served on the school board).
Right on Shelby, thanks. I’m just diligent before too long a discussion with possible trolls.
Pretty creepy, bud.
Creepier would be believing everything you read in a comment section.
But that’s just my opinion.
I’m sure I’m not engaging myself in whatever weird thoughts you’re creeped out by from you thinking them.
We wear seatbelts. We don’t drink & drive or smoke inside. We wear hard hats and safety goggles. Sometimes we have to do what’s best for the good of the group. It’s a pandemic get the shot! So we can all play ball!
Yep, you’re right! And people STILL DIE even with precautions. Life is not safe people. There is risk involved with everything. The point is the LINE. Where is the line when it comes to Covid? Are we going to mask forever? Are we going to contact trace based on ARBITRARY student-based testimonials about what did and did not occur forever? Are we going to continue to keep parents off of campus who want to help, even though not a single student in SHUSD has died or been hospitalized since the beginning of this pandemic–TWO YEARS NOW. Are we going to let our administration play covid police forever or are we going to insist that they be freed up to actually do their jobs?
BUT it’s a pandemic! Not a little risk…I hope you are not still thinking about teaching…please stay away for the schools. You will not be helpful with your biased opinions.
I don’t take advice (and poor advice at that) from anonymous commenters. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Why don’t you come to the school board meeting at Redway School? 4:30pm on Thursday. And you can tell them personally what kind of biased opinions you think should be allowed in our local schools. Or, you can submit public comment by emailing [email protected]
Or better yet, you can fill my shoes as a sub and volunteer since you think I’m not helpful and/or apply for one of other 19 open positions in the district: https://www.edjoin.org/sohumusd
Shelby,
Bless your heart, and I wish you the all the best in your efforts to educate the children at our local schools.
But, you’re inviting, no, you are challenging folks, to come to a public meeting at a currently open campus, (an elementary school, no less), to discuss conditions during a period of time that 2 other campuses are closed due to a Covid19 outbreak?
Someone should suggest that meeting be closed.
I get that you’re anxious to make as much progress as possible in a hurry. And I appreciate that, I really do. All the efforts you have made and are making, are exemplary, they really are.
But, choose your battles wisely, don’t waste energy on a damn school board meeting.
Certainly don’t risk your health there.
In my experience trying to deal with the school board, it is not only an exercise in futility, they will make sure you learn this, and never return to pester them, by assuring that you leave much less well off than when you arrived, especially if you are trying to make progress.
They will actually work to punish you, and your family, as a lesson.
I learned that the hard way.
Guest, thank you for sharing your thoughts. And it sounds like we will have to agree to disagree on some level. I do, however, appreciate your concern and I hear you.
I am more than familiar with the school district and school board and have been involved for 15 years. I have worked in this district and I have served on the school board. I know exactly the challenges I am facing.
“Certainly don’t risk your health there.”
I don’t feel that I am risking my health in any way. I went and subbed at SFHS last Friday fully knowing there was an outbreak going on. I am not afraid of Covid. I have had it. I have had numerous, known, prolonged exposures since having it and have not gotten it again.
If you are afraid, or others are afraid you do not have to attend in person. The meetings are still being live-streamed and you are welcome to participate in that format, or not participate at all.
https://simbli.eboardsolutions.com/SB_Meetings/ViewMeeting.aspx?S=36030455&MID=9358
The kids?! It’s not about the kids, it’s about the elderly and people with comorbidities! The kids need to forsake education and sports and suck it up for the “team”. Come on, just 2 years to flatten the curve, two more years that is. Then the intellectually challenged can realize we are living with a viral endemic and that it’s not going away. Just give them time to gently change the narrative so the fearful can digest the reality.
We need to expedite the digesting of reality somehow because two years is a long time in the life of a child/young adult. We are creating a generation that will be extremely intellectually challenged if we don’t put a stop to this insanity. What we are doing is NOT education. What we are doing at the school is catering to the covid cartel. It is criminal what we are doing to our children. While I deeply love this community and invest as much time as I can, I’m feeling like I’m wasting my time on some level and maybe I should just relocate. I know I’m preaching to the choir in this response to you as I follow these comment threads, just still need to say it. I’m beyond frustrated that we are continuing to sacrifice ALL of our children to protect a small population that can be protected in MANY other ways. Ways that don’t entail the decimation of public education and the decimation of our children’s mental and physical health.
Thank you for sharing your insights as a teacher, Shelby! I couldn’t agree with you more. Teachers are heroes for doing what you do. I can’t imagine how hard it is for you all to try to keep doing what you do in the face of all this.
I’m disgusted and ashamed of our society for putting the elderly and unhealthy in front of our children’s well being. Our society is at it’s lowest point since before the abolition of slavery. This will be known as the generation of cowards!
“Teachers are heroes for doing what you do.”
I completely agree, however, I do not fall into this category. While I taught full-time for about 10 years, I changed course about 8 years ago. I am only a sub and a part-time sub at that. But SHUSD is so badly in need of support and substitutes I am trying to give what I can afford to give to help out. I can’t thank our dedicated staff enough who are showing up every day and doing a job suitable for 5 people. Something’s got to change. Education is in crisis and people cannot afford to work full time making minimum wage. Our kids deserve better than what they are getting, especially considering the taxes we pay here in California! What was the budget surplus this year in California? And yet the state gives us money to put HVAC in the gym, but no money to pay overworked, dedicated PROFESSIONALS what they are actually worth. I’m disgusted with our state. People just seem to want to stick their heads in the sand, because facing the reality of where we are at is just so daunting.
Thank you for your injection of informed sanity Shelby. The fact that you illicited a sparky non comment from Brian is evidence that you are making a lot of sense.
I am so grateful that my children are young enough, and we were wary enough of the trends in public school, that when this all broke out we were already working with a group of parents to form a homeschooling group. Now my oldest has gotten to experience some lovely early school experiences with no masks and no stressed out, overworked teachers.
Then I walk by a local elementary school where recess is in full swing and a bunch of kids are running around with filthy masks half on, all up on each other the way kids play, and remember that those disgusting germ rags their being forced to wear are supposed to be for their protection? Where the hell have the parents gone in this community. I dread living in the society formed by these poor kids who are 2 years deep on this fear based, cognitivelydissonant, assault on their psychosocial development. How long are we going to tolerate this nonsense as a community?
“I dread living in the society formed by these poor kids”.
Better get used to it, ArcataGuy, given the anti-vax crowd is the keynote group helping drag the things out in a more impactful way that it would otherwise be. Why, I’m seeing more and more your groups capacity for keeping the virus, thus thus your socio-political groups movement, strong as possible. A two-fer y’all got going: avoid the vax keeping virus strong thus bolstering Trump ‘24. Sanity, not.
What were you trying to express in that ramble?
“Why, I’m seeing more and more your groups capacity for keeping the virus, thus thus your socio-political groups movement, strong as possible”
Is that one of those sentences written by a chat bot? I recognize it’s all English words but why is it supposed to mean.
“I dread living in the society formed by these poor kids” and agreeing with previous poster there’s a “covid cartel”.
You guys fight and fight against a vaccine! A vaccine that has saved lives and prevented suffering. It’s well documented. By professionals. So we’ll documented it’s near unanimous among all Fed, State, and local health agencies, hospitals, etc. the folks that put the vaxxes together and the pharma that make ‘em are the best we have in the world at this time.
I made a couple typos but the intent was clear: you anti-vaxxers have created a problem that serves you; your keeping a fight against vaxxing very alive, a fight which also serves a political purpose.
Kinda disgusting, your fight against medical science which has actually done a decent job in a very short period of time to address a very complex MF pandemic. It’s just a vaccine, a couple-few shots. They serve as the best tool we currently have against a nasty global virus. Grow up!
“Kinda disgusting, your fight against medical science”
Wait, aren’t you the one who is saying the verdict is out with ivermectin, despite ongoing clinical trials?
I’m all for medical science. And the science is showing the kids are at virtually no risk from dying or severe covid. I ask again, do you know of a single student in SHUSD that has died or been hospitalized from covid in the past two years? I don’t know of anyone.
It is kinda disgusting how so many are rejecting medical science which shows that kids survive this at a rate of virtually 100% and instead want to torture them with sticks up their noses to play sports and nonsensical policies so that YOU and others can have the illusion of safety.
Sounds like we are both disgusted with each other and that’s the biggest problem we’ve got in our society at the moment, in my opinion, anyways. Yet at the core our intentions are the same–care and concern about those we love and our community. How to bridge the divide?
Shelby, If you want to bridge the divide stop exclaiming things like “covid cartel”. It’s a conspiracy-minded term, to the extreme. You see, if millions of healthcare professionals (vs hundreds) and thousands of healthcare agencies are advocating the vax then your “cartel” umbrella includes those pros and agencies. See, your language? And instead of waving your arms saying a big answer is Ivermectin, for treatment post-infection with covid, you could simply say something like “it looks promising as tx, some studies are out to that effect, and other studies are ongoing”. And keep in mind that, at present, there’s not a health agency in the country that recommends Ivermectin for the treatment of covid.
Best to you and yours.
Chris, you are far to bigoted on the subject to be giving advice on bridging the divide. Try taking your own advice.
Wow, you. For clarity, Oxford dictionary definition of bigoted:
“obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. Example; “they’re pandering to a vocal minority of ill-informed and bigoted individuals”
Belief in a “covid cartel” sticks out. Small % of folks believe in it. Me? I’m reasonably attached to the beliefs and opinions of the vast (vast) majority of the medical science and health-care community.
Best reasonable advice is to not get so upset at the med-science and healthcare professions. Best advice is to follow their advisory. On average, and then some, they know more than you do.
More than anything right now we’ve a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Just watch, this winter. Start crossing the bridge and you’ll find the vast majority of the world waiting for you and with open arms. The Heath Agencies invite the unvaxxed to do just that, every day. The Healthcare professionals, they got my vote.
Best to you and yours.
“Shelby, If you want to bridge the divide stop exclaiming things like “covid cartel”. It’s a conspiracy-minded term, to the extreme.”
Point taken. And I agree, I typically try to avoid language that evokes conspiracy-minded thinking. I don’t consider myself in that camp. I read the research directly, follow many independent journalists, and have many personal friends who are physicians. I’m well-read on the topic. And I’m frustrated, just as you are. And I’m human. I don’t always express my opinions in the best way possible. I used the term covid cartel because you cannot deny that this is a profit machine, and I was speaking in reference to the testing.
“And instead of waving your arms saying a big answer is Ivermectin, for treatment post-infection with covid”
Where did I wave my arms and say the big answer is ivermectin? I don’t recall saying that. I wasn’t even the one who brought up ivermectin here, I simply responded to others’ comments. And felt like I more or less expressed exactly what you said right here:
you could simply say something like “it looks promising as tx, some studies are out to that effect, and other studies are ongoing”.
This is what I am saying. That it looks promising, that there are studies. And I said this in response to somebody that said they won’t even open something that has the word ivermectin.
I’m trying to have a conversation, Chris. I’m seriously concerned for our children. Do I suck in how I express myself at times? I certainly do! Should that stop us from trying to understand one another’s position? I don’t think so. Which is why I am still here talking. We’ve got a lot of schools of thought going on around this pandemic. And I can say with absolute certainty that we will never see 100% vaccination rates anywhere. So maybe we should accept this reality and start looking at where we go next. I have talked to upwards of 30 people I know personally who are fully vaccinated and do not want to be on a booster regimen and have no intention of getting the booster. So where does this leave us?
I said “a answer” and as to tx. Never said “the answer”. There’s a large difference. Also, you’ve either posted/replied multiple times as to Ivermectin.
“I have talked to upwards of 30 people I know personally who are fully vaccinated and do not want to be on a booster regimen and have no intention of getting the booster. So where does this leave us?”
I guess it leaves the upwards of 30 people you know not getting the booster. Only reasonable response available as to your question posed. But glad to hear they got the original shots, a wiser move that.
Of course we’ll never see 100% vax rate. Goes without saying. But 90%+ of those old enough and those without bonafide medical reasons is wholly attainable. So easy even Bhutan has done it.
Bhutan is a totalitarian theocratic kingdom.
I ask again, do you know of a single student in SHUSD that has died or been hospitalized from covid in the past two years?
Did you ask every student if they have lost family members to Covid, and if so, were they part of the communicated chain of infection.
Did you ask each teacher the same exact question?
Because you don’t know one dead student YET, doesn’t mean they don’t have a responsibility in the team sport of Covid.
And, I completely agree with what Chris is telling you here.
That’s why I said lead by example.
If your kids are all stressed out I would point to YOUR handling of the entire situation.
Brian, it’s not just my kids that are stressed out and frustrated. As I said, I am trying to help out as a sub. I spent all day Friday at SFHS while they called students in for testing. The kids are pissed. They are stressed, they are frustrated in their own right. These are young adults perfectly capable of forming their own thoughts about this situation, and I think you are giving me too much credit when you say this:
“If your kids are all stressed out I would point to YOUR handling of the entire situation.”
I’ve raised five kids, Brian. And have worked with thousands of others. I don’t have that much power to control what they think and feel, believe me. I guess I should point out they are double-digits in age and 3/5 are adults at this point.
“Because you don’t know one dead student YET, doesn’t mean they don’t have a responsibility in the team sport of Covid.”
Yes, Brian. I hear you. And I ask, when does this “team sport” end? Because it’s been WIDELY accepted and said that this is ENDEMIC. We will be living with this FOREVER. So when does this “game” end? When there are zero deaths worldwide? When can we stop ramming sticks up kids’ noses to ensure they are “safe” to play a game OUTSIDE, where the research clearly shows the risk of transmission in outdoor settings is minimal.
There’s just so much that doesn’t make sense, Brian, and I’m wondering what the end-goal is for people such as yourself and Chris. Is it zero-deaths? What about if 100% are vaccinated but people are still transmitting and dying? If we reach this 100% goal but still have deaths occurring, what then? Are you okay with masking and testing children forever? What’s the end game for you, Brian, if there is one?
I really don’t mind answering your question in detail.
I will.
Are you vaccinated?
Kids?
“I really don’t mind answering your question in detail.
I will.”
That would be wonderful because I would really like to understand. And thus far, not a single person that I have asked has been able to answer this question in a way that makes any sense to me. I have heard the “zero death” goal and the “100% vaccination” goal and neither one of those seem feasible to me for a variety of reasons I’d be happy to articulate. So if you have reasoning beyond this, I genuinely am interested in hearing your perspective on the “end game” of this “team sport.”
“Are you vaccinated?
Kids?”
Is your response to my questions dependent on me answering this? If so, why?
I will tell you this: I taught at Whitethorn School 5, 6, and 7th grades (or maybe it was 4,5,6th? can’t remember–one of the two as I taught both combos) during the Swine Flu pandemic. I’d say around 3/4 of my students got the swine flu over a six-week period as did about a third to half of their parents. During the height of winter I kept all windows open and my classroom door open. I had a “one arm” policy. As in, if a student walked up to me, I put an arm out to keep at least a TWO-foot distance.
I never got the swine flu. I never got the vaccination for the swine flu. In fact, I never even got sick during my 10 years of full-time teaching (between two counties), I never once took a sick day for illness. I have never had a flu shot. I am also not an anti-vaxer. If I were to get bit by what I think is a rabid animal, you best believe I am all about that rabies vaccine. Informed consent. Risk assessment.
I had Covid 14 mos ago. I have had at least three known prolonged (as in DAYS) exposure to the illness since then and have not gotten Covid again. 3/5 of my kids have covid without issue as have many, many, many friends. Two friends that had Covid had serious issues. I’m not discounting that this is a serious, deadly disease for certain populations of people.
My parents and in-laws are vaccinated and we take precautions but don’t live as if everyone is a walking lethal weapon. Life is short. And all four of these family members in their 70’s understand and believe that the vaccination does not prevent transmission but reduces their likelihood of hospitalization. They don’t walk around living in fear, or EVEN CARE whether somebody else is vaccinated or not.
With all this said, I exercise, live a rural lifestyle, eat well. If I were obese I would most likely think differently than I currently do. If I were 70, I would most likely think differently than I currently do. I can only speculate though because the only life I know is the life I have lived and am living in this moment.
Brian, I read extensively. I have two Master’s degrees. I am in my (almost) final year of dissertation writing and will have a Ph.D. in Jan. 2023. I say this only to point out my love for education. This should be clear given the background that I have shared with you. I have a love for science, psychology, philosophy…a love for questions and a love for the truth and a love for my people. Why the F*CK does my vaccination status matter to have a conversation?
Why does the question trigger you?
You just tried so hard to credential yourself to everyone only to scream about that question.
Because it doesn’t make any sense. Why do you need my medical information to have a conversation? Do you want to know my gynecologic history? Fun fact: I pushed two almost 10-pound babies out of my vagina without a single tear. Now that I have divulged some personal medical information are you willing to have a conversation with me about the Covid end-game?
@ Kym
Do I need to reframe that?
Yes, Brian. That was unacceptable.
Ok, but it didn’t break a rule, am I correct?
I mean she brought it up .
I’m pretty sure that trying to disgust the owner of this site (that would be me) while not actually breaking a rule, is junior high stuff. Don’t make me craft a rule that covers something that most people would understand was an unacceptable way of talking.
Kym,
Often is the case the commentor I reply to goes “Junior High” and I just top it.
Did you see a point in her Vagina monologue?
Did I miss an important part of the discussion I was having with her?
I think not.
On another note did you recieve the book?
No to the book but I haven’t been to the Post Office in over a week.
And to the technical issues. I’m sure it’s been my side. I also can’t get your PayPal to process my attempt to donate. Been multiple tries over 3 weeks.
Again, its gotta be my side. I’m way behind on updates with my phone/service.
“Often is the case the commentor I reply to goes “Junior High” and I just top it.”
You see, Brian, we must think alike on some level. Because I was doing to you exactly what you stated you were doing to me.
I felt that you were trying to play a game with me. More or less a game of “you show me yours and then I’ll show you mine.” You seemed unwilling to have a conversation with me until I shared a piece of information about myself. And you were requesting a specific piece of information that I don’t want to share with you.
“Did you see a point in her Vagina monologue?”
So, I’ve already stated one point.
The other point I was making by sharing my “vagina monologue” is that I get to control who gets access to my body and I get to control what information I share about my body. You have not earned that privilege. I have shared FAR more with you already than you have shared with me and I am going to withhold this information from you for that reason and more. It’s just not your business.
And if having an honest, open conversation with you that is aimed at generating understanding is dependent on me answering that question, well, that seems pretty “junior high” to me.
In short, I was admittedly playing your own game. Was it juvenile, maybe? But there was a definite point to it, and I think my point is clear. But, I’m open to admitting it was a juvenile move, I’m just not sure that it was. Cheers.
“You just tried so hard to credential yourself”
I’m sorry. I thought you had respect for credentials. Did I get that wrong?
Or did you just try shaming me because I shared my credentials with you?
And if so, why?
(I have more credentials than I listed, by the way. I just thought those to be the most relevant. And I shared them because you seem interested in vetting me in order to have a discussion.)
If you have credentials in medicine, that would be noteworthy.
But if you are not credentialed in medical regards, we are on the same level on this thread.
“we are on the same level on this thread.”
Brian, I’m sorry I continue to not be clear. I am juggling a lot every day and I try to be thoughtful but I am also short on time. As a result, I miss the mark sometimes (maybe often? lol).
Anyway, I’m not trying to “out credential” you, if that is what you are trying to say.
I offered my credentials because I am trying to show you that I am a person worthy of having a conversation with. And I did this because you previously expressed that you more or less want to know who you are engaging in conversation with. I was trying to let you know more about who I am.
“A couple-few shots.”
How much is a couple-few shots?
6-10?
Honestly, how many shots of the “vaccine” are you going to have to take?
If you can’t answer that question, quit acting like you have the answers. Admit you are following the unscientific orders of the guy who is most responsible for the virus in the first place.
Local Farmer. Right now all the healthcare agencies recommend being vaccinated. Its currently two-three depending on the shot, the booster in the mix. Sorry, all I have is what the vast (vast) majority of the professional medical community advises, what all healthcare agencies nationwide advise. (hint)
You keep bucking the advice of the pros, you notice that I hope.
Your hyperbolic theoretical questioning sounds on the verge of paranoia. Second, try not to pose silly questions then follow right away with crap (your “if you can’t answer” blahblahblah).
Lastly, your vague reference to some unscientific order by some guy you say I’m following guy. ??
Good luck. Therapists are available.
The mandate orders are from Fauci and against the advice of the WHO. The booster shot advice is from Fauci and against the advice of the WHO. Your bullshit about the “vast majority of the professional Healthcare community”, is straight from Don Lemon, who isn’t in the Healthcare industry but is a cuck for them because they pay his salary, and is propaganda.
Like I said, you can’t answer the question because Fauci hasn’t fed you the bullshit to spread around yet. You’re just a mouthpiece for MSNBC, nothing more. Do you do any of your own research? No!
I was taught in university to think critically and how to do research. Do you have an original thought about the subject? Doubtful!
So, how many shots will you have to take? Still waiting on your answer.
Um, I don’t watch TV. But it appears you do.
I’m not stupid, getting my booster.
What’s your University degree in, and what do you do for a living?
Still waiting for your answer, Chris.
Not so sure are you?
Gave you plenty appropriate answer so at this stage you’re game playing, nothing more. Bye. ?
Ah, I see. It’s the persistent political dichotomy delusion that caused the incoherent writing. I can promise you one thing, if the president of the US were decided by the unvaccinated people I know, it sure wouldn’t be Trump.
And you may want to stay up to date on this topic you seem to care so much about. Highly vaccinated countries continue to experience high case loads and continue to be subject to the aggressive curtailment of their freedoms. I am glad that you have been given access to a medical intervention that you believe is a benefit to you. All that we are asking is that you stop trying to force this pharmaceutical technology on everyone else.
If you trust these pharmaceutical cartels so much you can just read their published data . The Pfizer-BioNTech clinical trial demonstrated clearly that their product did not reduce deaths at all.
I see, yer same ‘ol anti-vax blahblah.
And you write “if the president of the US were decided by the unvaccinated people I know, it sure wouldn’t be Trump.”
The above indicates the unvaxxed you know don’t support Trump. Yep. But they’re the minority as to the unvaxxed. That means if the majority of the unvaxxed could decide an election today, Trump would be Prez again. Meaning more shitstorm presidency, the folks you know standing there.
You may want to stay up to speed as we move into winter, into the pandemic of the unvaccinated. The re-surge is on. Sad. Watch and learn. But don’t be paranoid, get vaxxed,
“The above indicates the unvaxxed you know don’t support Trump. Yep. But they’re the minority as to the unvaxxed.”
I know plenty of Trump supporters who are fully vaccinated and have even gotten the booster. And I know a lot of unvaccinated Trump supporters. I will also add that the majority of unvaxxed that I know DO NOT support Trump, nor are they even republicans.
There are plenty of unvaxxed people from all walks of life. And the ones that are politically center or left-leaning that I have talked to are being very quiet about their decisions, for a variety of reasons. And they have all made whatever decision they have made, for a variety of reasons.
The issues on the table are more complex than you want to make them out to be. But I know you don’t agree, you’ve made your binary thinking MORE than clear.
Shelby, cmon (and you, too, ArcataGuy). If it we’re just the unvaxxed voting for Trump or Biden then Trump would win. We live in CA, and NorCal at that, so we’re generally more center-left and centrist (including many vaxxxed Trump supporters) But, besides a limited number of States, between here and the East Coast it’s mostly center and center-right. Most of the voting unvaxxed are Trump supporters. Undeniable. If the unvaxxed were voting for Prez it’s a sure bet Trump would win.
It’s fine if you want to say “The issues on the table are more complex than you want to make them out to be”. There’s complexity to it all. Of course. But there’s also making it more complex than it needs to be. And the thanks for that go mostly to the un-unvaxxed. ALl health-departments, and a preponderance of news sources, indicates just that. Why the F do you think every Health Department in the nation puts out advisories every day to get vaxxed. For kicks? For bucks? Cuz they want to shove your face in it and gloat? No. They do it cuz the verdict is in; med science and studies show it works well enough and is the best tool we got as a Nation. Fight it all you want, but there it is.
The primary issue on the table is that, as a nation, the unvaxxed (most of who could get vaxxed within hrs) are helping to make the pandemic even worse. Yes the virus will always probably be with us (albeit none of us have a crystal ball) but all reasonable assessment and reporting indicate it’s increasingly becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated. If you don’t want to see what reliable sources say, that’s your choice. But if yer on social media expect pushback by folk citing not online-junk but qualified sources (FDA, CDC, State and local Health Department!).
What is your source for your belief that the majority of unvaccinated people are Trump supporters? Most people don’t give a shit about either corrupt party or the parade of d bags that parade around every few years trying to look presidential.
It sounds like you’re mistaking a statistic about Trump supporters being more likely to be unvaccinated than biden supporters for a statistic proving that most who have not accepted the vaccine are Trump supporters. That is a burnt political narrative
You must be joking. It’s not rocket science, just look at nationwide county data and see the obvious: if the unvaxxed could decide the election, Trump would win. Thanks for bringing up the parallel. Hilarious.
What’s YOUR takeaway on this:
“October 2021, one-quarter (27%) of U.S. adults say they have not gotten a COVID-19 vaccine, but the unvaccinated population is now disproportionately made up of those who identify as Republican or Republican-leaning, with six in ten (60%) identifying as Republican or Republican-leaning (compared to about four in ten of the U.S. total adult population1) and just one in six (17%) calling themselves Democrats or Democratic-leaning.”
– Kaiser Family Foundation Vax Monitor
The fact this comment got downvoted by a few non teachers, non parents tells you the problem we face with education/society thus far.
“The hardest part of two weeks to flatten the curve is the first two years”
All teacher and staff are vaccinated. I heard know from inside source ?? So should be fine
If you heard that, you must have heard it from a person who has no respect for anyone’s privacy and who would violate HIPPA laws.
“ The Privacy Rule does not prohibit any person (e.g., an individual or an entity such as a business), including HIPAA covered entities and business associates, from asking whether an individual has received a particular vaccine, including COVID-19 vaccines. “
– HHS.gov
Oh cool, you mean they changed the definition of privacy now?
No change at all. It’s always been, you and others just failed to clue in.
We’re not living through an endemic of meningitis. Huge difference!
The definitions for vaccinated and unvaccinated have been heavily modified to sow confusion.
Most serious adverse effects occur shortly after the shot, when one is still considered unvaccinated, regardless of the fact that the stuff is already in the body; what will come later as chronic problems remains to be seen. We’re still in the trial period. It takes time to find out, and that was not allowed to happen.
CDC guidelines as of October 15, 2021:
In general, people are considered fully vaccinated (Annex) against COVID-19:
There is currently no post-vaccination time limit on fully vaccinated status. People are considered not fully vaccinated if they have not completed vaccination, cannot be vaccinated, or are not eligible for vaccines, including children less than 12 years of age.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
One death unvaccinated but 100 percent unvaccinated is not mathematically possible ??♂️??♂️??Aaron Rodgers returning on Sunday to play after testing positive for covid. Anyone find it little suspicious that no one else got it with him being the quarterback and all. It must be very contagious ???sorry south fork for this ridiculous stupid unnecessary crap that is happening to you.
I’m not sure how one out of one being 100% is mathematically impossible.
I was trying to be fair with the weekly reports.
How should I have worded it?
U.S. Federal appeals court affirmed hold on Biden’s vaccine mandate, calls it “staggeringly overboard”
Link to official document
https://electionwiz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/21-60845_11-12-21.pdf
Some might say staggeringly overboard. Others might say it’s a draconian and inexcusable abuse of fundamental human rights.
Looks like spell check got you in the Federal appeals court quote.
I hope that I’m not being a grammar Nazi.
I know you meant to write, “overbroad”, in the Federal quote.
I agree with your “overboard” comparison.
Just clarifying it.
Given the Monster’s serious bend it’s not unlikely he intended it as “overboard”. That would fit with the anti-crowd new-independent media of incrementally manipulating. You know, the spreading of mis, dis, overly-ambiguous, and other caca.
I don’t think he would have misquoted it intentionally, and then repeated it that way.
I believe he intended to properly quote it, and then offer the alternative.
I like that type of word play.
He put quotes around it and it was NOT an accurate quote. Sorry, no sale. TKO in favor of the critics. I like wordplay, too, but the quote was a clear error, the sentiment is debatable.
Bend or bent? I lean toward “bent” in this context, but Not sure. Serious bent just seems correct. I’ll stand correction! Limited time offer.
OK. I checked my Webster’s and, in fact, “bend”, in this context, should be “bent.”
Kym used to frown on correcting grammar, but I forget the current rules. You qualify minimally as a “GN”, but I am also guilty. Also, maybe Kym gave you a pass because you were correcting an error in a legal case.
I agree, “overbroad” meaning too inclusive, too expansive, is likely correct, but I disagree with that characterization. Biden was right. Funny, but Fox Noose corporate is very tough, by all accounts, on covid vaxing in THEIR offices while on-air “talent” brays and gibbers about freedom to choose sickness and death and risk everybody else while they’re at it. Typical right-wing hypocrisy.
Page 13d in the linked document: “ the Mandate is staggeringly overbroad”. Since I disagree with the stay, I will instigate a riot at the U.S. Capitol, attack police and hunt down legislators, erect a Fox noose, and claim to be a Patriot. Also crap and pee in the hallway. What? Oh. Only God-loving Trump dead-Enders can do that. Shucks. Dammit.
Uh oh. We all know what this means….
There may be an outbreak of irrational anti-Gates/Fauci/Newsom comments to follow….
The pattern of surges.
*@Kym, please don’t post duplicate comment.
Haha ypu got the vaccine and I didn’t poor baby.
@ Kym,
Is this acceptable commenting?
Farce can’t kill White with a time machine, but this morom can kill Fauci?
Ummmmm. Maybe you missed it.
Imagine that…a comment made about 11:30 on a Friday night and it’s 7:35 on a Saturday morning before I see it. Good lord, what am I thinking of to walk away from my business like that. I should know better than to sleep.
I wonder why nobody is looking at how Utter Pradesh eradicated it? Zero cases amongst a population of 220+ million.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/live-news-from-cities-night-curfew-in-up-rajasthan-mp-jharkhand-chhattisgarh-13-november-2021/liveblog/87676571.cms
I don’t have time to look at this right now but Uttar Pradesh is believed to have hidden deaths from COVID earlier. https://theprint.in/india/dead-bodies-all-over-lucknow-funerals-tell-a-story-starkly-different-from-up-govts-claims/640741/
Kym That link is from last spring and I think my computer now has a virus.
Try this one
Lucknow india COVID
That’s illustrated in the graph… Last spring.
Did you get vaxed? Now your computer is sick. Serves you right!
They are accustomed to bodies in the streets. They have a system in place to pick them up every morning. India is a lot like some of you folks on here, their government just makes shit up to fit their interpretation.
“I don’t have time to look at this right now”
What else is new? But you do have time to post the first Google result contradicting what you don’t wanna believe and then condemn every one else as not credible and conspiracy theorist.
COVID-Africa-Deaths.jpg (624×348) (thegatewaypundit.com)
COVID-19: The Ivermectin African Enigma – PubMed (nih.gov)
There’s a wide swath of central Africa that has very few hospitals or labs. So whose going to do those covid tests that records deaths or covid illnesses when there is no one to do them? No one. But that doesn’t mean it is not there.
Then there’s the devastating loss of life in that part of the world due to HIV. which means the average age in Sub-Saharan Africa is 19 where it is closer to 40 in the rest of the world. That means the most likely demographic to be killed by covid has already been eliminated by another disease.
So basically your “proof” of the efficacy of ivermectin does not exist. It does not mean that it won’t have an effect but certainly it is not proven considering that Brazil made ivermectin widely available without it slowing down covid. https://news.yahoo.com/brazil-hospital-chain-hid-covid-194127173.html
S. Fork High article, rural Humboldt, but you’re linking to a story on Utter Pradesh. Huh.
People highjack these articles all the time to push their own agenda
True, yes.
Maybe not quite as malicious as high jacking the country with fear and stagflation.
Maybe it’s just me.
You mean the Stop The Steal hijack-attempt of the election.
U know exactly what I’m fucking talking about. Your dream of a Biden green new deal is such a reflection of your communist sympathy.
Pathetic.
I sure do know. Everybody knows. You, too. It’s well documented. The hijacking began with the likes of Steve Bannon, y’know— Mr. Stop the Steal campaign. His tan gonna fade in jail. Bring him chocolates, he’d like that.
Did you bother to read the comment just before Kym’s? She was responding to more utter horseshit posted by Baby Monster.
onrust, Chris is actually responding to Baby Monster. I can see below the commenter’s name who they are replying to. (See screengrab attached) Is that just something the moderator can see? Or did you just overlook it? It is one of the requirements I had for a new commenting system.
I can see it Kym. Your new service seems fine. Congratulations on the great business valuation. We are lucky to have such a great local news source.
Did I bother? “Reply to ef” it says in italics, just above my reply to ef. I agree with him, with ef.
Who’s on first? ?
seems some people on here are dazed and confused
Lack of sleep from “researching” something, anything for a weak Gotcha moment that is usually laughable.
Good point, Stefano-Davis.
“Parents, staff, and community all work together to keep ourselves as healthy as we can be. Schools are required to follow the public health guidelines as our part in keeping everybody healthy.”
Public health guidelines.
Thanks for the heads up Kym, I read it here before I got the letter from the school. Hope the school remembers that sports awards just happened Tuesday night and a lot of the athletes from other sports were all sitting on the bleachers with the football players all crammed together, for almost an hour.
Omg wow that’s so crazy they did that.
@ Potentially exposed : They all go to school together all day inside. So sports awards did not make a difference. Many other Humboldt schools have already had outbreaks, it will be ok, we have testing and other measures in place that have been very successful at other schools. Fortuna had an outbreak back in September, no hospitalizations and they moved on. I know many of the positive cases and they are hardly even sick. Colds with no taste/ smell. A few with low grade fevers. This actually used to happen every school year in the early winter, back then we called it flu season.
Thank you. Most kids kick Covid in less than 5 days..
Published august 3rd:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(21)00198-X/fulltext
Ya everyone got the crud at my job site. Pretty mild, No-one even took a day off.
Ya so did fort bragg high but they kept it under the rug
Well we certainly shouldn’t insulate the kids from the Bullshit CDC/NIH/HHS guide lines thats been weaponized to punish a serious inquiry into those responsible for playing GOD at those bio weapon labs.
There is even less protection from annonymous comments and social misinformation.
History was not kind to many who trusted the wrong people.
Likea “https://gab.com/OutlawJW/posts/107261515907605559”
My brother from another mother.
Get a grip.
Grip check good.
I think the problem is the people who have no fuckin clue what it’s like to watch the attempted collapse of our economy.
I see people who should have no reason to defend Biden, if only to attack The hardworking middle class whites, Hispanic, Black and Asians and the people who recognize a strong border is like having a lock on your front door.
There is no excuse for supporting the imploder in chief.
Make America a Great place to raise a family, not just for the ones who can afford it.
If you voted for Trump , who represents everything you are supposedly against , then all of your rhetoric is so much hot air.
Did you vote for Trump??????
You really ought to work on extracting your self from the political dichotomy mind spell. It is not helpful for cognition
Fuckno.
But anything was better than that bitxh Hillary who stole it from Berne.
Scary to realize what the education system has done to much of the entitled brats, who have no real life skills.
Given your rhetoric here the Bernie would be ashamed to have you as a backer.
The director of PLANDEMIC HAS some great insight into being on the BERNIE BRO TRAIN.
I COULD POINT YOU IN THE DIRECTION….
BUT I’M NOT INTERESTED IN CHANGING YOUR MIND.
Ok, you say didn’t vote for Trump or Clinton 2016. But we know “Yeah,sure” was asking you not about 2016. You skipped that one, or…
You’ve talked about the team, the one team, teamUSA, so if Biden is so bad in your eyes tell who you voted to lead the team in 2020.
He thinks people click his links.
So funny.
Wear a mask, keep distance, wash hands! Try not to touch your face in between washings. Once again think precautionary principal.
Kym – A number of your commentors seem to enjoy a bad case of cranial-rectal inversion. Is it a testimony to a failed educational system or is it based on an individual desire to encourage rampant stupidity?
I think that we don’t understand very well how people of different cultures/communities see the world so when they say things that sound crazy to our worldview, we dismiss them. Just as they dismiss us.
Of course, that’s my best self speaking…
Well said Kym.
It is even harder to legislate across these differences.
The smartest path is to work towards creating a common culture, but now I’m sounding naive.
How about live and let die?!
People need to be free to live free of the expectations of others, and keep the government on a short leash, I’m a huge fan of Tulsi Gabbard.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1459888599806185473
But, we understand that other people think we sound crazy to them.
And, you see, that is not all that we understand.
That is as all-inclusive as I could come up with.
I’d like to see a press release about the fact that there is no math teacher at the high school for math beyond pre-algebra. How about a press release about the fact that there are no electives and no clubs due to the short staffing?
The high school is in CRISIS in terms of staffing and offerings. Now one of the few things these kids actually had gets canceled over what amounts to be a cold for most of these kids? Some of these kids that tested positive were forced to test and had either mild or no symptoms.
Has a single student in SHUSD been hospitalized or died from covid? None that I know of. Let’s start talking about the REAL problems here. It seems as though Ms. Steffano Davis has time to give interviews to the press about a few students testing positive but doesn’t have time to meet with parents to discuss the multitude of issues at the high school. Or send an email response beyond “Thank you for your email.” I’ve been asking for a meeting for four weeks now and have offered countless constructive solutions to the board. The fact that we are spending so much time on contact tracing A COLD (yes, this is no worse than a cold or flu for kids/teens) when the kids in our high school CAN’T EVEN DO BASIC MATH because they have not had adequate math instruction since elementary school, is a BIG problem. Why don’t we talk about THAT? Please and thank you.
The salary scale and leadership history probably explain why so many positions are unfilled.
https://www.edjoin.org/sohumusd
Agreed. I stand in support of the current administration, but they are faced with fixing some pretty major problems, on top of the additional burden that Covid has created. Honestly, I think they are in over their heads (who wouldn’t be?), and I’m just grateful they are willing to do the job. BUT, the problems are so large they need to start getting real with the parents and engaging district stakeholders. We’ve got to start working towards creative solutions, including funding and how we will deal with the ongoing staffing shortage that is a nationwide crisis and that has been a trend in education for well over a decade. The salary schedule is a joke and one can hardly afford gas with what some of these positions pay.
If you’re reading, and you care about education, you should be paying close attention to what is going on. The next board meeting is at Redway School, Thursday, November 18th at around 4:30 or whenever closed session ends. Accompany any complaint with a potential/proposed solution, if possible. https://simbli.eboardsolutions.com/SB_Meetings/ViewMeeting.aspx?S=36030455&MID=9358
I was really sad to read that a Covid outbreak is forcing the Cubs to not have a chance at the NCS. They worked so hard to get to this point, and now it is gone. I am proud of all the players and coach this season, and hopefully a better Covid free next school year. Long live the South Fork High Cubs!!!!
Kids suffering because some old people are scared
I’d love for you to witnesses someone dying of Covid. Someone young.
he would probably dismiss it as being the flu
Aren’t the odds about the same as seeing someone be struck by lightning?
Also, what kind of sicko would “love” such a thing?
Not very nice.
I’d like to see a large gathering of anti-vaxxers walk into a desert locale. Their predominant gender (male) gathering closely with their drug of choice (alcohol) plus their gun of choice (cuz they need, y’know, to “protect” themselves out there).
They’ll gather with their vax status of choice (unvaxxed) and kissable (no mask).
Tens of millions, in a desert locale, for a couple months. We’ll see what big talkers walk out, and if they’ve seen the light vs continued spreading of ambiguous information, misinterpretation, deliberate disinformation, including chants of The Big Lie (like “Stop the Steal”).
Wow! What twisted and delusional fantasies you have! I think you might be about to go into hate speech withdrawal. Better go watch Don Lemon, quick!
Don’t forget the shovel.
Isn’t Burning Man a big desert gathering with a bunch of antivaxers in attendance?
I don’t know much if anything about burning man.
Did you listen to the Lawyer for Bannon talk about the misdemeanor from hell.
Don’t forget the monoclonal antibodies suite at Saint Joe’s. Their representative told me that been 100% affective in keeping people from being hospitalized. I know of two people that had the treatment and were much better within three days. Since it’s been so effective call mom I really think they shouldn’t close this important sweet down at the end of November.
I think they were hoping case rates would go down by then. Hopefully they will take another look to see how things will look by then. Also they are working to get a pill approved I believe by Pfizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc
I heard the word Ivermectin and shut it down. You realize he is broadcasting from a English mental institution where he has been confined for the last 5 years..
“I heard the word Ivermectin and shut it down.”
Wow. I sure hope you don’t hold ANY position of consequence or authority here in Humboldt County. I’m scared of people who so readily draw conclusions and are unwilling to even ENTERTAIN or look at information that might contradict their strongly held beliefs.
What happened to conversation, debate, a discussion of the issues? A willingness to entertain the idea that one might be wrong?
What makes you SO SURE that you are right in your beliefs about ivermectin? Especially considering the FACT that it is being WIDELY used, and successfully used as a treatment. I know many people who have used ivermectin as a treatment and who are using it prophylactically with success. I know many physicians, personally, who are using and recommending ivermectin. And ivermectin has been studied and will continue to be studied for its effectiveness in preventing and treating covid.
You should reconsider the idea that you hold the final answer and open yourself up to the possibility that you might be wrong. Heck, I might be wrong. But AT LEAST I AM ENTERTAINING ALL SIDES OF THE ISSUE. I’m reading EVERYTHING I can, from all sides, all sources, direct research.
It is these types of comments that make me so adamant that we must step up our game as it pertains to education. The internet/smartphones/social media/defunding of education seems to have affected our ability to think critically and have intelligent, but respectful conversation. I know I struggle sometimes, but at least it is always a goal of mine.
You are beating a dead horse. The Iververmectin debate has been discussed on here like a hundred times, months ago
If it is beating a dead horse why are there so many ONGOING and PLANNED clinical trials to study ivermectin? To anyone who is actually paying attention, it is EXTREMELY CLEAR that the verdict is NOT out. You should reconsider your views, especially if you are one of those who likes to say “I believe in science.” Let me know what you think of these links and why you think this is a dead horse–genuinely curious.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?intr=%22Ivermectin%22&Search=Apply&recrs=b&recrs=a&recrs=d&age_v=&gndr=&type=&rslt=
https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/search?query=ivermectin+AND+covid-19
https://covidout.umn.edu/
https://www.principletrial.org/
Until they say differently, Shelby, the verdict appears to be very much IN.
According to CDC in Sept:
“The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals. Ivermectin is approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea.
Currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19. Clinical trials assessing ivermectin tablets for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 in people are ongoing.”
As an aside, but related, you stated in a previous post that “I know many physicians, personally, who are using and recommending ivermectin.”
I have to ask: exactly how many is “many” physicians “that you know” who are “using and recommending ivermectin” and what form?
Thank you.
“Until they say differently, Shelby, the verdict appears to be very much IN.”
Okay, Chris. Let me see if I can break this down for you another way. Ivermectin (FOR HUMAN USE) seems to be working for a lot of people. That is why a lot of people are using it.
People have used ivermectin designed for veterinary purposes because ivermectin for human use appears to be working for a lot of people but it is hard to access (for some people) for a variety of reasons. Ivermectin designed for veterinary use is NOT for human consumption and should not be used to prevent or treat covid.
If ivermectin wasn’t working people would not be using it, doctors would not be prescribing it, and there would not be HUNDREDS of ongoing and planned trials (all over the world) to further study ivermectin as a preventative and treatment.
This is really just common sense thinking. If ivermectin had NO USE, NO EFFECTIVENESS, IS DANGEROUS, again, I ask you: why are there so many studies, that are both ongoing and planned research for ivermectin as a preventative and treatment?
Yes, have already reviewed ivermectin. Of course it has uses. Common sense based on hx, But no breakdown required given whats IN for now from FDA: “Ivermectin is approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea.”
You didn’t answer the question I posed. To repeat:
Exactly how many is “many” physicians “that you know” who are “using and recommending ivermectin” and what form?
“You didn’t answer the question I posed.”
You’re right, I didn’t. And that is because you seem to be more interested in semantics and splitting hairs than in having reasonable conservation that actually advances thought or gets us somewhere.
Based on what you’ve said thus far in this comment section, I don’t see what purpose answering the question will serve.
If I say 100, what would be your response?
How about if I say 6?
What if I link you to websites that verify that ivermectin is being used to prevent and treat covid, what would be your response then? (I’m sure I can guess, but I would love to be pleasantly surprised.)
Gong
GL, best to ya.
A Texas hospital suspends a doctor’s privileges for spreading ‘misinformation’ about Covid-19 and Ivermectin
Maybe you should contact everyone who is conducting clinical trials on ivermectin and let them know that they should halt all research because a doctor had his license suspended for spreading misinformation. Write to these doctors and researchers conducting these dumb clinical trials, and let them know that you are POSITIVE ivermectin has absolutely no potential value in preventing or treating covid and that they are wasting their time and money on this research. Here is one such trial, a hospital studying the use of ivermectin in the early phase of disease, expected to be completed in June 2022. Or you could search any of the other hundreds of ongoing and planned clinical trials and let all those people know as well that they should halt all research because it’s already been proven to not work. (I hope you are sensing my sarcasm).
I mean, REALLY? Are you that closed-minded? Why would universities and hospitals and other organizations concerned with public health be conducting research on ivermectin if it has already been proven to be ineffective?
Just think about it for a minute, really.
People tend to invest in research when something seems promising. The CDC has advised against the use of ivermectin due to a lack of research and limitations in research thus far. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IVERMECTIN IS NOT EFFECTIVE. It means more research is needed, according to the CDC. And more research is occurring.
If you see the word ivermectin and immediately dismiss the source because you’ve already made up your mind about it, despite ongoing emerging information, well, I don’t think there is a thing I can say that will change your mind about anything. At least not in this thread. But I hope you will at least consider what I’ve said. Have a good night.
Thought I was done but saw your whatever it is (gaslighting, run-on sarcastic jab, the “REALLY” bit, etc.). All Matrix did was note that “A Texas hospital suspends a doctor’s privileges for spreading ‘misinformation’ about Covid-19 and Ivermectin”. That’s it.
“All Matrix did was note that “A Texas hospital suspends a doctor’s privileges for spreading ‘misinformation’ about Covid-19 and Ivermectin”. That’s it.”
Yes, that is what he (you?) posted. And I posted a well-meaning response that leaned on sarcasm to make a point. That’s it. Are we done now?
Shelby, how does Ivermectin “work” against COVID. I haven’t seen the data.
Did you even read this thread? Based on your question, I’d say you did not. Because it makes little sense to ask me this question based on what I have written in this thread.
Also, based on your other response to me in a separate thread I’m just going to assume you aren’t actually interested in having a conversation about this.
Just letting you know I saw your question and my non-response is for the aforementioned reasons.
Shelby, some people like the 52 year old Cardiologist who denigrated the vaccine hesitant, is dead after a booster shot.
For some people, there aren’t enough boosters.
For some, there are not enough critical thinking humans who weren’t over vaxxed as a child.
I think this county is worth fighting for, even if it means telling the idiots to STFU, and keep pushing back at the unconstitutional intrusions that are attempted every day in every city in America.
The founding fathers gave us a second amendment to protect the first. There is nothing going to stop the woke antagonists who hate the family and hate children except a strong and united front and a well defended position.
The media and many woke members of Law enforcement, and even the judicial system is being weaponizedone against us, the independent, free thinking, hardworking members who defend themselves against the mob with restrained force when needed
, and deadly force only when all restraint threatens your life.
Root 4 America
Send the Traitors to whatever shit hole country they choose, they don’t deserve this one.
??The Big Lie continues, and in oh so many ways. ?
I suppose we all have to judge what our founders envisioned for our Republic, for ourselves.
It’s pretty darn near the best framework in the modern world.
You, are living off the backs of those who sacrificed everything.
Learn how to stand on the shoulders giants.
Do you have kids?
Well, I seem to have you.
But really, your series of non-sequitur sentences makes me Yugely feel founders frameworking shoulders sacrificing, y’know.
He’s waiting for Pfizer’s version of ivermectin. He don’t want the hiorsy medicine. LOL!
And what was the conclusion? That it’s likely a safe and at least marginally effective treatment when applied at the appropriate time in the cycle of disease expression? That anyone who calls it “horse paste” has given up their ability to form an original thought?
Is every new alt going to be ruder than the last, efox?
“Monoclonal antibodies aren’t grown on trees, they’re made by Big Pharma, specifically Regeneron, a $57 billion company. They charge the government $2,100 for each dose of it …”
““Regeneron itself has said explicitly that the (Monoclonal antibody) treatment “is not a substitute for vaccination against COVID-19.””
– Newsweek 10/12/21
$2000+ per tx. And the manufacturer itself seems to suggest getting vaxxed as the line of defense (vs tx) as to the virus. Save the Taxpayer some $$$ by getting vaxxed first and foremost.
I find some of these comments fascinating, but you have to understand I live back east and as such the views tend to be different than the west coast mentality. Most people here have moved on from Covid. The news limits reporting because ratings were down all summer. Some people wear masks at stores but most don’t. The bars and restaurants are very busy. No one really talks about it or is very concerned. I’ll spare you all my usual comments but I’ve been living life well. Stay safe out there.
Where back east. And how did u even run across this site? It’s for sale by the way, it’s valued at $5.5 million but You might cut a deal for $ 5 million
Western PA……while vacationing in CA many years ago me and my girlfriend at the time stumbled upon the great North and I’ve been back over ten times. I always try and keep abreast of the comings and going’s in the area.
Travelled thru Pa, went thru Blue Ball then Fertility Pa. On to Intercourse then a stop in Climax Pa.
Interesting. Penn State Gov sources indicate there’s been a big re-surge in covid cases since early-mid Summer with only a slight taper as of late (and winter cold-season coming on).
Also, according to 11/12/21 story on pennlive.com:
“Pennsylvania registered a 10.3% positivity rate for COVID-19 tests during the seven days ending Thursday, a disappointing upturn in an important virus barometer.”
“The latest figure is one percentage point more than the previous week, and more than double the 5% rate considered the threshold for significant spread of COVID-19.”
Maybe explains this- “New coronavirus cases leaped in Pennsylvania in the week ending Sunday, rising 79% as 51,379 cases were reported.
Pennsylvania ranked fifth among the states where coronavirus was spreading the fastest on a per-person basis, a USA TODAY Network analysis of Johns Hopkins University data shows. The week prior, the state had 28,671 new cases of the virus that causes COVID-19.”
.https://www.goerie.com/story/news/2021/11/15/pa-covid-cases-county/49380023/
I noticed this article about innumeracy and immediately some of the regulars here came to mind.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/math-covid-vaccinations-jeremy-mcanulty/2021/11/12/bfe89018-417f-11ec-a3aa-0255edc02eb7_story.html
This trend is likely only to get worse, exacerbated by Covid. Check this article out: https://www.frontlineeducation.com/blog/teacher-shortage-2021/
1200 school districts surveyed in 2021 and 46% report a shortage of secondary math teachers.
Since school started, many students at SFHS have been expected to more or less teach themselves math out of the book, as the district has not been able to find a math teacher, despite their best efforts.
It’s time to reach back into our past , and teach our own children.
The men and women who lived off the land 200 to 300 years ago understood the laws of nature and the tendencies of HUMANS .
Wisdom is important, but kids need to learn a lot more than that to thrive in this world, and so the world can benefit from their participation. Public education was invented to solve a problem after all.
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*getting injured is a rare thing, but it doesn’t feel rare when it happens to you ”
Kyle Warner, pro mountain biker
Injured by the vaccine.
Wisdom is everything. So much intelligence being used against us. Who is US?
I’ve gone down the history rabbit hole of forced schooling, and the question would be, what is the problem that needed to be solved?
I wager that modern public education isn’t really about education at all. It’s a indoctrination system, and it’s producing some very intelligent idiots.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/eZrU6BsV8mPU/
Skip to just before 11 minutes in, where the pro mountain biker kyle warner, with tears in his eyes, speaks to feeling suicidal after simply wanting to share his story of being injured after the vaccine.
“Being attacked by both sides”
You want people to get vaxxed, and then literally berate them for speaking out after getting hurt.
*getting injured is a rare thing, but it doesn’t feel rare when it happens to you ”
“The toxicity is worse than the virus ”
“We are doing a shitty job of staying human”
I guess getting injured and not keeping your mouth shut just isn’t cool
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-weaponisation-of-coronavirus-november-5-2021_4y8sbLTftGIhDJe.html
Mostly children were uneducated without a school. That is why, although the first thing built might be a church, the second thing was a school house.
The education system back in the 1700s, along with an overbearing taxation without representation from another disconnected ruling elite
It produced the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the strongest Republic on Earth.
We have different opinions and we should embrace the independence that gives us our ability to keep the law equal.
Among the several open teaching positions are both a full-time math teacher and one to split between math and science. There are others as well.
Yes, there are many open positions. And at the last board meeting, the board approved yet more vacancies, both certificated and classified, using emergency covid-related funding. Which, to me, made absolutely no sense. We’ve got to start thinking outside of the box and generating creative solutions if MJH/SFHS is to be an environment where the kids in our community can thrive. The next board meeting is this Thursday, November 18th. Redway School. Open session typically starts around 4:30. https://simbli.eboardsolutions.com/SB_Meetings/ViewMeeting.aspx?S=36030455&MID=9358