A Social Media Post About Boycotting a Business Owner for His White Power Sweatshirt Sparked the Following Letter to the Editor
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April 25, 2020
We are a group of folks from different organizations in Humboldt County who are working toward creating a welcoming community where everyone feels that they belong. We work towards “equity for all,” meaning that every person gets the care, support, and services they need to feel safe and thrive.
It has come to our attention that another example of racial hate surfaced within our community this week. Because we are all responsible for saying something when we witness prejudice and hateful acts, we offer this joint statement to express our collective belief that racism and hatred are not acceptable and make many of our community members unsafe. We know that our communities become defined by how all of us act individually and as a group. Because of the offensive behavior and acts of one or some, the North Coast’s reputation to become known as a safe and welcoming place, is on the line. The way to work towards this, is we have to earn it through our actions, and by holding one another accountable to these values.
Many may be surprised to learn that ideas and behaviors of hate and bias continue to exist here in our community in 2020, especially during a time of stress and difficulties associated with COVID-19. Although some individuals have not been the victims of racial hatred or may not have seen it happen, too many Black, Native American, and people of color in our region have experienced discrimination. Racism does real harm and we, as a community, must be intolerant of it in all of its forms.
As a united group, we believe that the only way to combat such dangerous beliefs and ideologies is by learning about our local and national history and engaging our communities to collectively address these issues in peaceful and constructive ways. We are stronger together and all have learning to do. We are also aware that racial equity work is often slow and challenging, but we remain committed and hope you will too.
HOW CAN YOU HELP?
- When you see or hear dangerous racist and white supremacist sentiments (such as expressions of white pride, which are harmful and dangerously racist, overt racial name-calling, etc…), say something and/or file a Discrimination Complaint Form with the Eureka NAACP (www.eurekanaacp.org/discrimination-form).
- Research companies before you do business with them to be sure they share and practice inclusive values.
- Attend virtual equity trainings or webinars by local and national leaders (Teaching Tolerance offers many for free www.tolerance.org/professional-development/webinars).
- Start a Book Club (might we suggest, “So You Want to Talk About Race” by Ijeoma Oluo).
- Listen to a Podcast on Race and Equity (search “9 podcasts that don’t whitewash race” for a great list).
- Donate to support local equity related work ( NAACP – PO Box 1434, Eureka, CA 95502, the Humboldt Area Foundation in support of MARE or others).
In support of a community where we all belong,
Sharrone Blanck, President, Eureka NAACP
Hillarie Beyer, Executive Director, McKinleyville Family Resource Center
Lark Doolan, Community Member
Jennifer Eichstedt, Professor, Dept. of Sociology-Humboldt State University
Catarina Gallardo, Community Member
Roger Macdonald, Superintendent, Northern Humboldt Union High School District
Amanda Mager, City Manager, City of Blue Lake
Melissa Meiris, Founder/Co-Director-Stepping Stone Diversity Consulting
Heidi Moore-Guynup, Superintendent, McKinleyville Union School District
Rachel Montgomery, Community Member
Meridith Oram, TK-12 Humboldt-Del Norte Equity Partnership
Edelmira Reynoso, Office of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (ODEI)-Humboldt State U.
Jen Rice, Community Member
Aristea Saulsbury, Co-Director-Stepping Stone Diversity Consulting
Holly Scaglioni and Mary Burke, Co Chairs, McKinleyville Alliance for Racial Equity (MARE)
Ron White, Board Member-Faith in Action
DeAnn Waldvogel, Principal/Superintendent and Daria Lowrey, Board President, Blue Lake School District
*There are many individuals and organizations doing racial equity work in our communities, and the above list is by no means exclusive.
UPDATE: Viral Photo of North Coast Man Wearing White Power Shirt Tests Our Civil Discourse
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white people are discriminated against too. i just wanted to add that because they must have just forgot to add that next to all the other people they were listing
The guy in question literally has swastika tattoos on top of wearing ‘white pride’ shirts to work so I’m not really sure how you think pretending like white people are discriminated against in any way addresses or excuses overt racism.
did i say i was defending that guy? i was referring to the authors and how they forgot to include white people as well
The authors aren’t writing fiction so…. maybe you just don’t understand discrimination?
In what specific ways are white people discriminated against? And by who, exactly?
the argument you want is tired af. go ahead and look up affirmative action, thats a real and pretty big issue that hinders white people from getting hired, if there is a minority applying for the same position
you left out minority owned business bidding advantage. you also left out all the reasons why these are in place. maybe read a fucking history book. your comments are ignorant af. all of our current social problems in the US are a direct relation to ignorance and it seems to be a white thing. one might conclude that us white people are lazy and it could be true. hopefully this stay at home homeschooling doesn’t make that situation even worse, I fear it will.
all of our current social problems in the US are a direct relation to ignorance and it seems to be a white thing
can you see that you are a racist
There is no talking to these people tax payer. It’s just always about “whitey” and how we have too much privilege. Fack em. I love my privilege and am damn proud of my heritage. If that’s racist, then so be it
i beg to differ that there is privilege attributed to all whites
The applicable cliche here is ‘the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence’.
It is easy to look at someone else and imagine they have it easier than you do.
I am average looking at best. Sometimes, from my perspective, it looks like attractive women, as a group, have things pretty good. Every one I’ve known well, however, has told me something to the effect of, “People don’t realize how hard it is to be beautiful.”
The truth is it’s tough out there for everyone.
i just dont think privilege is a race thing. was it easier for eminem to become a rapper because he was white.
Oh how I remember my white privilege. First job at 13 years old, worked every summer through High School, then joined the Army so I could afford college. Oh the privilege, a pot at the end of every rainbow. Whew, I’m walking on cake.
@Black rifles matter , your on point and they hate us cause they anus lol
Tax payer. It was sarcasm on my end with the privilege comment. I get sooo sick of hearing about “privilege”
What is your heritage? Why are you proud?
To Racist “Observer:” You have no idea what (ESP single) parents (all nationalities) are going thru in your profanity laced rage, assuming ALL USA’s problems are due to WHITE people.
Well, Tax Payer, if whites are *soooooo discriminated against ?*, would you switch places right now with a black man?
what r u a genie?
if you wanted to be a rapper you would
are you implying that if some one is racist to me is should be racist back, or should i do the right thing?
No, they are using comparative analysis to say that you should shut up because you don’t have it nearly as bad as blacks in America. It’s a pretty weak argument.
so you are saying it is ok to be racist to white folks.
I am not saying that. I am merely explaining their position. And yes, that is what they are saying, albeit in a very obtuse and roundabout way.
It is never racism to be proud of your heritage in and of itself. I am extremely proud of mine. That said, as a regular old white male I was discriminated against by County of Humboldt for medical condition by a member of the LGBTQ community, harrassed by a female superior and forced to leave my job.
So… don’t give me your crap about white people being the problem here. All groups have their own low life trash. This County is not welcoming like the ignorant people in this case would like us to believe.
Okay kids, since you’re clearly confused…. people don’t treat you like crap because you’re white. That would actually be discrimination…. People treat you like crap for a number of reasons: they’re having a bad day. You were rude. They don’t like your face.
But don’t be so foolish as to pretend it’s because of your race. And this whole job lie is something losers tell themselves when they aren’t good enough. A minority didn’t get the job because of their skin color; you just weren’t good enough.
ok boomer. that is fake news. go look at how many court cases have been won because affirmative action is racist (prejudice). then i suggest you go hang out in an inner city and see how people treat you, some are nice in fact a lot but then you come across that group standing over there and see what happens
has anyone ever seen the movie 8mile. not that i am trying to single out black people as the only racists but i am going to throw it out there as an example
Lol, a fictional movie loosely based on rapper Marshall Mathers’ life? That’s your example of “reverse racism”?
so you dont think marshal mathers got beat up as a kid because he was white or was it because he was nerdy
it sounds like you were forced to go to anger management therapy and you chose to quit.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I would love to tell more but the County lawyer put a gag order on the settlement details. Either way I’m glad I don’t work for the crooks at the county anymore.
White isn’t a heritage.
But it is, though.
What if your heritage is enslaving and killing other people?
If I was proud of men hanging, rapeing and enslaving people because of their race isn’t that racist?
They always forget to include things if that sort. . . .
It’s called a “separatist “ not a “racists “
Still his constitutional right. Don’t hire him then. Pretty simple.
I told you people there was more to worry about than covid 19!
I’m gonna say something controversial here. I’m glad the roofer advertises his white supremacy position. That way anyone who calls him for an estimate, knows this man’s limits as a human being. If he wasn’t as upfront about it, folks might have inadvertently supported his business which could be supporting white supremacist media.
Yes! I prefer them to post their biases; however, that doesn’t cure the problem of bias.
Imagine putting a limit on someone’s humanity as a result of their ideological position…..
liberals have communist tattoos, and call for white genocide, and blacks have their own prides all over, no one says anything.
Who are you to tell the other what to believe and not to be proud of his race and origin?
Way to single out discrimination (it was mentioned once). That’s the small stuff, yes, it’s still happening but not as prevalent as it used to be. But hatred and racism from white people towards minorities is the bigger issue, and it is alive and well again. Just think about how angry you feel right – it pretty much proves my point.
did you get that info from cnn? all races have racists. white people make up the majority so therefore statistically you would have more problems from whites. i dont think this it true personally from my experiences. and if i say this race or that race is more racist that makes me look like a racist to you but i also didnt call you a racist when you said white people are the problem. do you see how you sound like a racist
I’m reminded of the situation, IIRC a little over a year ago, when there was a brouhaha over a confrontation between the Hoopa girls’ basketball team and some Ferndale fans. Everybody was going on about racist taunts from the Ferndale fans, while there was a great deal of insulting provocation going the other way too. Then there was an amateur league game in Hoopa where one of the players on the visiting team was half black, and a Hoopa girl said, “In your face, nigger.” There was much more hand-wringing than condemnation. Racism is an equal-opportunity game; anyone of any race can play it on any other race, and nobody should get a pass.
Rt on 3rd eye.
Z and Third Eye: both of you are absolutely spot on. Bad people exist in all races and at all social strata.
White is the result of mixing all other colors together. Kick that one around a little bit and see what falls out.
I believe you are confusing the colors of light with genetics. Genetically Dark pigment is dominant over light so eventually, we will all be a brown color.
I thought u got black when mixed all colors together? Technically, neither are a color….. kick that around a bit
Not hate
It’s only a solidarity symbol of possible anti black racism by people over 100 years ago, well before the wearer was alive. But they can’t let it go… therefore white people today are blamed.
All colors mixed together become Blown Head gasket grey. FYI, lol
The Olympics of 1936 were hard for the true racists, the Nazis, as Jessie Owens crushed the white hoard of Europe. Hitler was so embarrassed he would not attend the medal ceremony. Anyone who considers another inferior because of their appearance is just displaying their ignorance. That does not mean they will change their thoughts, perhaps they do not have the intelligence to. Remember, a person cannot do anything about their thoughts of supremacy when standing in line like the rest of us. We can talk until we are blue in the face, they will probably not change. Who cares? Let them live in their hate and bigotry. We all know they are wrong. Some think they can change hatred, I hope they succeed, but I am not holding my breath. America has in place laws that protect all of us. The Nazis grew on hate and bigotry, and they acted on it, rounding up Jews, Gypsies, Polish and eastern Europeans, and killed millions of them. What allowed them to do this? They took everyone’s guns first.
No one thinks that anyone is just all-around inferior. The question at hand that relates to White Supremacy is “Which race is better at WHAT?”
Hitler had no problem distinguishing superior aspects of each race and was perplexed at the ability of the Jews to argue so well.
It truly is only supremacy is you go as far as to say that “X race is better at everything”
Has anyone ever made that claim?
Yes, Mr. Kim, the Rich.
Spot on, Stuber. That’s why gun laws are pressed for decades while teaching Communism is intelligent, Christianity is racist, and security comes from government in all education.
If that takes too long,
Increase fatality of “CoronaVirus/H1N1 Bird Flu,” &
scare people out of work to destabilize the middle class.
Push “non-maskers = murder” & “President is inept racist” by non-stop fear-mongering media to break social ties and stir. BOOM! WAR. Unless Trump is re-elected, “Cow-towing at home,” will result in complete government take-over as planned in Agenda 21.
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Hoopa Running Club
July 15, 2019 ·
Show off your Native Pride when you run
i see it all the time
One thing is that feathers tied to an arrow is more of a symbol to many indian tribes to be personally a better, braver, more focused and more honorable person. That is a pretty appealing intent. To focus on being righteous.
The symbol on this roofer’s shirt is is not altogether clear but looks to be a KKK cross. Not at all a symbol of being a better person. Just saying that is not appealing an image. Besides, whether he knows exactly where it comes from or not, it doesn’t show much thinking power to wear such a symbol while holding out to the public as a tradesman. Not someone I’d rely on anyway.
o.k. so as for the indian picture. i found a better one but it was the wrong format, so if you dont believe there are local indian pride shirts and bumper stickers, you can go research for yourself (or you probably dont live here because they are everywhere). now with dudes shirt the big problem is it says ‘white power’, i dont know about a kkk cross but that is celtic knots
No, not exactly.
The guy is wearing a symbolic Celtic Cross on his breast. It’s one of the easiest recognized symbols of North Europeans. Lots of Americans can be proud of this heritage.
The local racist club made racism into a pitiful press release.
Well his shirt wasn’t labeled “Celtic pride”, was it? So I doubt your interpretation holds.
Right.
It’s a Maltese Cross, it just hides itself with squiggles inside instead of an obvious “SS” affiliation.
This!
The Celtic Cross came from the British Isles and parts of France that also have a Celtic culture.
Hence the name.
It is also now the logo for Stormfront. To say this guy is just proud of his “Celtic” heritage is being a bit disingenuous.
Well all is good then isn’t it?
3 replies each of which confirms my idea.
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I do take notice that not 1 of you could summon the courage to address the racism projected by the local racist club
Is somebody racially guilty by being proud of oneself?
Why blame the skin color for the racism?
WTF is a non-racist human?
Based
Lots of Americans should be furious that actual white supremacist nazis decided to use their symbolism for hate and organized crime. The “Celtic cross” on his shirt is a known neonazi symbol.
I just wanted to point out that in prison swastikas and feathers have a different meaning. They both mean the person has “done work” for their respective race. So a native guy with a tattoo of a feather is essentially the same as a white guy with a swastika, at least according to prison rules. Since whites, natives and southside mexicans are allied in prison these tattoos mean you’ve fought against the blacks or northerners. This is why you’ll see natives and even mexicans hanging out with guys who have swastika tattoos, but never blacks. It’s not about racism, it’s about belonging to specific prison gangs. Now you can say you learned something today.
By native, is that someone born in the United States?
i have had this debate before. how long does it take to become a native and i think you can be a native of anywhere. i claim to be a california native
did you complete your 2020 Census? I didn’t just ask your if you are white it wanted to know how white. and it didn’t include White (American) it was White (English), which is what I checked off even though I am more of a English mutt Anglo Saxon. I found it kinda scary that it didn’t ask the majority of questions it historically contains which means either the government already knows or the trump Admin plans to tweak it. it could even be a combo which is even worse.
i was referring to the job market. the census can be answered any way you want. growing up we were all just labeled americans. and from what i have heard, this is the least invasive census yet. i also dont understand how the census could benefit the Trump administration
A few years back there was a sports team on a reservation somewhere that named itself the “Fightin’ Whities,” with the 1950s-ish pipe-smoking dad as its logo. It was a good parody of the “Warriors” or “Braves” team names. Sadly, there were some people who couldn’t handle it. No sense of humor.
Really? I would love a photo. That sounds funny as heck.
All you could ever want and probably more:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=fighting%20whities%20basketball%20team&pc=cosp&ptag=G6C999A423B96AE75&form=CONBDF&conlogo=CT3210127
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites
Prerequisites for what your jealous of:
I rape your sister and wife.
Then I kill your family.
Then I kill your friends, and their families.
I’m going to take your house. And land.
You can’t talk in your language anymore.
No more religion either.
You can stay in a little area far away from what you know as home.
There will be no natural resources.
I promise you’ll get everything back.
trying to put words in other peoples mouth just makes you look ignorant and remain ignorant
Sure pal, I’m the ignorant one here.
Wouldn’t be impossible. That comment applies to a wide range of idiots.
when did i say i was jealous? oh thats right. i am not jealous. thats why i didnt join a running club to show off my pride (not that there is anything wrong with that)
its not nice to TRY and put words in peoples mouths
@tax payer , you more offended than anyone else on here , as your comments fill the entire page of comments , you seem hostile , just like most tax payers who never lived outside of a “tax paying life “. Now to blame others for their support of their race and call it racist??? . But we have a black history month . And if his shirt said any other color than” white “ you would not mind … Yeah , tax payer , I’m sure you love the high “tax” to take care of the ones that Are not working , at least this dude is out working and not stealing or tweaking around . So what, he’s proud to be white . That’s great for him . Does that mean he’s a bad person because he’s proud of his bloodline (which he doesn’t prolly really know )
I spent a few years in the prison system and can say the most racists folks are not of white race. But we will let the comments by “tax payer “ tell us what is racists . I will Bet “tax payer “ would talk a different talk if they had to live in close quarters amongst other races … then you would be singing a different liberal song .
10 toes please re-read my comments
https://www.usa.gov/tribes
Here’s my ten cents and it will be unpopular and probably edited, but its the truth, and yeah I’m white as all hell so there. That time with the natives was many hundreds of years ago, its gone and done and we can’t rewrite history. I can tell you that I am not hundreds of years old, so I did not participate. I can also tell you I harbor no animosity towards anybody who has ever treated my ancestors like crap and being I am overwhelmingly Irish, the people who treated my heritage like crap includes everyone from Europe to the US and back again, but that was many hundreds of years ago. I also know that the English invaded the United States, they waged a war with the native people, like so many other european nations did back then, and they won. The natives were conquered, sorry to say, and thats how it is. I also know that when us Americans won the Revolutionary War, we made all of our b.s treaties with the natives and gave them reservations. I know when Cortez conquered the Aztecs, he did not treat the natives so well. I know when Francisco Pizarro conquered the Incas, he didn’t treat them so well either. In fact all that are left of their civilizations are ruins. I know they don’t have reservations, I know they don’t receive checks from their government, and I also know that they have ceased to exist. It sounds like the English were a little bit better than the Spaniards considering that the natives here in the US have been allowed to keep there culture and practice it, much less the fact they actually still exist. At some point people need to call it a wash and realize that for millennia conquered nations have ceased to exist completely and that the Natives of North America faired much better than the natives of pretty much everywhere else throughout history. Harsh? Yes. Truth? Yes. Fair? Absolutely not, but the world is a cold, harsh, unfair place and they are still here while many other native people around the world are not.
Wounded Knee Massacre was in 1890. Far from “many hundreds” of years, fyi.
And:
Native American reservation inequality underlies a range of societal issues that affect the lives of Native Americanpopulations residing on reservations in the United States. About one third of the Native American population, about 700,000 persons, lives on an Indian Reservation in the United States.[1] Reservation poverty and other discriminatory factors have led to persisting social inequality on Native American reservations. Disparities between many aspects of life at the national level and at the reservation level, such as quality of education, quality of healthcare, substance abuse, teenage pregnancy, violence, and suicide rates are significant in demonstrating the inequality of opportunities and situations between reservations and the rest of the country.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_and_reservation_inequality
I think a civilized society aims to improve itself in a host of ways, which is impossible without at least recognizing the faults of past or present.
Hey man you are right about that. We really did drag things out with them, ‘ol Cortez and Pizarro handled things so quickly, was that more humane? I am just putting up a bit of history and how things have worked for thousands of years. When you compare the Native Americans plight of North America to the Native Americans plight of Central and South America, all of a sudden things don’t seem so bad, not saying we shouldn’t improve. Also I know that the natives of Big Lagoon Rancheria get over $100,000 a year in checks from our gov’t. A lot of the houses down there still look like shit and if you didn’t know about the checks, you would still think they live in poverty. Throwing money at something is not the answer. Giving money to people rarely improves there lives. I know a lot of things that happen on the rez are brought on by themselves through drug abuse and alcoholism. I know that giving substantial amounts of cash to drug addicts are not the answer. White man has nothing to do with native uncle molesting his niece. Giving away cash and allowing them to continue to live that way helps no one.
I’m just going to whine a little here…why would you think that would be edited? I don’t edit out ideas I don’t agree with. Jeez, you have to have read comments that you know I disagree with. Heck you write them and you know they stay up.
I appreciate what you do, i feel sometimes unpopular comments may be edited. Still a little sore about my wook(edit?) flu joke being edited lol.
Wook is a slur and I don’t allow that. Opinions and ideas are almost all allowed.
Like I said before, I was unaware of that due to the fact that I have friends who refer to themselves as that and seem quite proud of it.
When you back someone into a corner and just keep pushing, don’t be surprised when they push back.
What corner?
The same “corner” that led to the founding of the KKK? The same “corner” that led to uncountable deaths in Europe and the US for centuries? The same corner that has 85% of the population of Humboldt County?
Meh.
I’ve lived in the PNW for most of my life. The White Power jackasses have been a festering problem for decades. Murders, bombings, yeah….that corner.
Get a swastika tattoo, that’ll make up for it. Of course, that tattoo or that shirt may cost you a job….oppression!!!!
I want to say that I essentially agree with the spirit of what you’ve written about white supremacy.
But did you really just say that 85% of this county is white supremacist?
What world do you live in where you could write something like this so casually? That statement is so completely unsubstantiated—even anecdotally—that I would question whether the person making it is of sound mind.
Humboldt, like a lot of rural places, has racism. But you really need to get out more if you believe this.
Uh… it’s called the knockout game, and eventually white people are gonna get tired of playing it.
For some of my fellow “white” people that may be confused about why “White Pride” is racist-
White isn’t a race. It’s the color of your skin. Celebrate your culture, have your Irish Pride, your German Pride, your Swedish Pride, whatever race you are. Celebrate it, no one is telling you not to. Having “White Pride” is celebrating that you’re not a person of color and that’s racist.
Yes, there’s Black Pride and that contradicts what I’m saying. The problem is, black Americans lost their culture when they were enslaved here. So they have no roots to a culture that was erased by us. (Surely not you and I as we would never do that, right? But by our ancestors, by our country, and therefore, us.) So they celebrate their Black Culture because it’s what they have built when their culture was stripped away.
Most of Humboldt is a loving and inclusive place, however, many of us, never faced with racism, tend to wear rose-colored glasses and assume racism is not affecting the POC of our community. It is. And it is our job, to make sure this hate and discrimination is called out, and not allowed to breed here at home.
My only warning about a lot of the comments on these posts on fb lately , is their focus of hate and degradation of this business owners appearance/assumed intelligence/personality. As enraged as we may get when seeing blatant displays of racism, let’s stick to what the issue is, the racism. Yes, we can all draw conclusions or make assumptions based on having such an ignorant and hateful character defect, however, ultimately our goal is not to enrage, but to point out the ignorance and hatefulness of his point of view. Ultimately, the goal is to educate people and erase racism… a goal that, unfortunately, is no where near completion.
Very well said. I particularly like what you said here, “My only warning about a lot of the comments on these posts on fb lately , is their focus of hate and degradation of this business owners appearance/assumed intelligence/personality. As enraged as we may get when seeing blatant displays of racism, let’s stick to what the issue is, the racism.”
Waiting for Bantu, or even African Pride to overtake Black Power symbols… Hmm… I guess what’s sauce for the goose is not sauce for the gander after all.
On the US census under race American will do fine.
I once read a story about this big kid punching on this little kid. Eventually, the little kid punched him. I’m not a fan of violence. It doesn’t make it right that the little kid punched the big kid but, you know, sometimes…it’s hard to work up a sense of how abused someone is.
I feel like that about White Pride vs Black Pride or all male clubs vs all female clubs. I’m not a huge fan of Black Pride groups or all female clubs generally but it’s hard to get all worked up about how abusive they are when the power is tilted heavily in one direction–and it’s not towards them.
Well said
the goal is to educate people and erase racism… a goal that, unfortunately, is no where near completion.
thats what i was doing by stating that white people are discriminated against. on the job application it doesnt say irish german italian. it says white
Erase racism lol hahahahaah look how you talk . Erase racism. Seriously . A job that will never be complete . Your running the worst campaign ever . If you think you or anyone will end racism, …..then I got ocean front property in Arizona for sale , if you buy that I’ll throw the golden gate in free. FYI blacks will always be the most racist of all races , and before any one try’s to comment . One of my parents are black . So let that be known.
actually i dont think blacks are the most racist.
and that first part was a quote from Tink
Tink,
Interesting your description of white skin as being one culture maybe.
My ancestors = German + Polish Jews/mother, French + English + Irish/bioDad; 1st stepDad = German; 2nd step(forever)Dad = Scottish.
None of that includes the various cutures I was raised within and exposed to = white European, African, American and Eastern Indian, Middle Eastern and Northern and Southern American cultures. I would not want to pick just one.
Celebrate them all as far as I’m concerned. We all bleed red blood.
I would not want a swastika bearing person working at my home though. I cannot celebrate the culture that represents.
does this guy have a swastika? he does have a shirt that says ‘white power’ but i didnt see a swastika
He had posted a picture of his swastika tattoo on his facebook page. Which now deleted or made inaccessible.
And remember, his shirt didn’t just say “White Pride” The first line said “White POWER”.
thats what i kept referring to. the white power, not the white pride (its in my posts). i just didnt see any swastika tattoo that some were referring to that is all
If you go to the original post and scroll down someone uploaded the photo into the comments there.
Is there evidence that it’s HIS swastika tattoo?
Racism is mostly artificial. Today there are stories like “Your baby is racist…” and “Why all white people are racist…” there is also the idea that “racism” is “prejudice plus power” and since evil whitey is in power racist is an adjective solely of the pale folk. This is becoming mainstream. These concepts are being taught in universities and in the press. It is clearly divicive. Birds of a feather flock together. What racists.
The irony with the idea of “equality” is that equality of opportunity will never equal equality of outcome which is the real objective. As a young adult I have filled out multiple applications which indirectly imply I am discouraged from applying because of my gender and race in the name of “equal opportunity”. Another time I wanted to apply for a volunteer position which only had room for 1 poc. These small examples are not insignificant, it leaves a bad taste in one’s mouth and it keeps accumulating.
The more we focus on race and try to manipulate the way people think about it the more real racism we sow. Imagine that. Men, women, black, white, gay, straight, christian, atheist, crippled, “able-bodied” we will never be equal and that is a lesson of nature.
racism is real in places like south africa. it is not punishable by law if a black man kills a white man and takes his land. there is a great documentary by lauren southern called farmlands. https://youtu.be/a_bDc7FfItk
White is not a race and neither is black. Both are colors. What you are doing is calling all Anglo-Saxons white, and then saying that our ancestors participated in the slave trade so essentially we did too. The funny thing is, the majority of “white” people that all of us “white” people are descended from came over after slavery had ended. My family did not arrive until the early to mid 1800s, long after slavery had ended. A lot of black people immigrated after slavery had ended as well. So that really doesn’t hold true for the majority of Americans, white or black, because a lot of us are neither descended from slaves or slavers. Are you racist against me for lumping me in with group of people that I don’t belong to? Are you racist for wanting to impose laws that hinder me yet aid someone else, even though neither of us participated in nor are descended from anyone who participated in the horrors of which you speak? Where is the cutoff in history for slavery? When does it not count anymore? Does it not count if you were descended from slaves say, before the 1800s? 1700s? 1600s? Yes Africans had it really bad for 400 years. The Irish had it pretty bad for awhile too, but that started petering out in the mid-1700s. I also know the Moors were the primary slavers in Africa They were not white, but African as well. So what century is it that all slavery before stops counting? Also, what about the fact that America was the first country on the Atlantic seaboard, throughout both the Americas, Africa, and Europe to abolish slavery? Who gets credit for that? We also pay more reparations than any other country through social reform for those whose ancestors were *supposedly* held in bondage. Where does it end? When has it been enough?
I am a White person, and wish I could be proud of my heritage,but I’m not. We have enslaved, we have gassed the Jews,and we have stolen the land of native Americans. We white people need to understand that the system has been set up to favor us. Why is 13% black population account for 2000 out of 100,000 prisoners, and 65% white population account 450 out of 100,000.
Very unfortunate you feel that way. Do you realize that those who have committed evil were the minority of white people. The vast majority are decent people who have not done anything like you have said. I personally feel sorry for you. Stop believing the hype.
Alf, the White good guys didn’t stop the White genocidal guys. My family didn’t come to America until 1900 and I still feel terrible about the genocide committed against Native Americans.
Don’t believe there’s racism against Black people? Really look at TL’s stats. Those stats partially come out of a lack of access to quality education for Black kids.
TL doesn’t know how t use statistics. Taking the incarceration rates for men and women, TL’s logic would indicate that the disparity is prima facie evidence of discrimination against men. Nobody would take that argument seriously, but a similar argument is widely accepted when it comes to race.
what is this ‘we’ you speak of? were you a part of any of those things?
It’s hard to believe in identity politics, especially it’s sub category of victim politics, without ending up with having to hold conflicting beliefs simultaneously. From such embarassing compromised thinking comes the white privilege or racism defined as prejudice with power. Gets no one anywhere but allows a person to indulge themselves in their own bigotry while simultaneously complaining about others doing the same. Yet those that find it convenient only see an affirmation of other’s defects if they point it out.
Of course we white people invented vaccination, wrote Darwin’s Origin of the Species, wrote Beethoven’s 5th, fought In a Civil War to end slavery to which we were liable, originated the power grid, invented the printing press, flew the first airplane, etc too.
You should also know that until 400 years ago, Africans were the largest slave owning people and for that matter have regained that title in modern times. And the biggest genocides were in Africa and Asia, although the Middle East including Jews have a large history there too.
What is so “white” about these sort of ideas is that white people are the best at evil, just as they are best at everything else. In reality white people are no better or worse than any other group and should stop priding themselves on it. If you want to out-white white supremacists by blaming white people for every evil, you just are as ignorant of history as the worst in any race.
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Oh please. White people aren’t discriminated against. The ones who think so (more likely to be a white male) are upset they have to start sharing the things they previously controlled because people of color and women are demanding equality. Just because you lose a job to a person from a minority background isn’t discrimination. It means the other person was better for the job. Why would you choose the Hoopa Running Club and their motto is not an example of discrimination? In what way is a community based social/ athletic group discriminatory?
you just singled out (straight) white males. i was trying to include them
Oh, yes they are. I’m surprised you’ve managed to grow up without experiencing any discrimination. Although to experience it if a white person, you’d have to look beyond your personal location as the current liberal litany of racial prejudice does not look at Asian or African countries to make its pronouncements. Not that you’d have to look that far away.
Do some googling on EEO and Government-wide Inclusive Diversity Strategic Plan (the Plan). It’s has run in California for well over two decades. Then ask some employees what it means locally. It always involves toting up the race and gender of the local work force and finding it to be “too white”, the situation is remedied by circumventing length of service, education, experience, awards or other criteria for promotion to transfer in people without those qualifications but possessing the right race or gender characteristics needed to reflect the “right” balance of State or Nation demographics. That closes off local jobs going to locals. Something that also closes off economic advancement to people who were born and live here. Of course for Newsome, that idea of being born here having meaning is defined as racist.
Sorry Babs, but you’re flat out wrong. One example of many I could make: young white male graduated at the top of his class, with honors. He was denied job after job in CA, WA, OR, NV, and AZ. It wasn’t because he wasn’t good enough. It was because he was white. He watched as the positions he applied for repeatedly went to far less qualified applicants whose only attribute was that they were….. Black. Even the worst student in the class was hired before ANY of the whites. That’s the very definition of discrimination!!!!
thank you. to add to that they actually had a bridge construction project that only included “minorities” in the construction industry and the bridges failed and killed people underneath them. i think it was florida
point is they were picking people based on race and gender and not on qualifications
I like people of all colors, unless they are jerks and then it doesn’t matter what color their skin is. If people want to be empowered is ok as long as it doesn’t tread on the rights of anybody else no matter what color their skin is. You know the true nature of a person when they have power over someone and they don’t ABUSE that power. Live and let live! Hate begets hate. Love is the answer!
thats cute. I almost shed a tear
is it racist to call obama the first black president? because he is also the first half white president and we all know who is daddy is
Triggered much?
How much do have to say in anger for a white power dumbfuck getting called out?
still trying to put words in my mouth. i have already said i am not defending this guy and you can go look at the first post. why are you so hateful to a just cause?
Your first comment shows how triggered you are by the post:
white people are discriminated against too. i just wanted to add that because they must have just forgot to add that next to all the other people they were listing
I never said you defended him, I just said you got angry.
i said for a just cause. why would anyone have to defend the other colors that were already included
Yes, triggered as damn well is the smarmy goal. From the safety of the internet. That’s the thinking that makes a bully. Or is it troll? Hard to pin down which is which sometimes.
Call yourself what you will, it doesn’t bother me.
Some people are bold enough to stick to one not-annonymous name, like “Guest”, so if they are a bully or a troll, there is a modicum of responsibility for it.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. But a single name allowed bigots to not bother reading before attackung a comment. I got tired of repeating “I didn’t say that” when dumped on because some judge piece of nastiness couldn’t read first. It’s given a small feeling of satisfaction to read the times you attacked personally a “guest” incorrectly based on a need to stereotype rather than try to understand. I’m not the least sorry that not being sure about the identity of a poster bothers you so much. It should make you question the origin of that irritation. I’m certain it has nothing to do with my lack of manly courage.
I’m not bothered by not knowing your identity, at all. I have zero interest in your name. It’s in your interest to remain anonymous or be public.
The point is that it allows you freedoms to troll, bully or taunt. Especially as “Guest”. And it allows others, like Sid, to confuse and mute out your sometimes good points. In my opinion, at least.
At least with me you know it’s me. Or Ullr, you know its Ullr. Third eye, stars, etc.
Can I suggest “The Real Guest” or something stupid but unique like that?
Your response to me is what brought up, well, trolling, and I don’t mind your frequent responses to me, or Kym especially, we all troll a little bit if we’re honest about it.
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Thanks to all you humboldters that proved the letter correct with your ignorant comments! And good luck to the racist business owner, his posterized employees, and his supporters/ compatriots! We now know who you are and will treat you accordingly ?
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Wait a minute!
I don’t think that guy is even white!
He works as a roofer.
Isn’t that a job white people won’t do?
I don’t support the sporting of swastika tattoos or wearing apparel that demeans others or promotes one race as superior or inferior to others. That being said, the issue of identifying people by immutable characteristics such as skin color, has produced a backlash of sorts among certain members of our society, people who have tired of the race baiting and/or are feeling threatened because of special treatment afforded others. Maybe someone just like a certain local roofer who is currently being pilloried by the informed and enlightened in social and print media.
Racism in all of its forms cuts both ways. It’s OK to promote Native American Pride, but not White Pride. Black Lives Matter, but for God’s sake, don’t say “All Lives Matter”. It’s OK to have the United Negro College Fund, but it’s not OK to have a fund for white colleges. In fact, there are no white colleges, but there are Black universities, which is OK. Chicano Studies or Women’s Studies are just fine, but don’t try to enroll in a Men’s Studies or Caucasian Studies course since you can’t find such classes because they are unacceptable. Providing a scholarship to someone because of skin color is laudable, as long as that skin color isn’t white.
Martin Luther King, Jr.’s dream was a society where people would not be judged by the color of their skin but, rather, by the content of their character. That is who and what a person is — the character, not something like skin color that cannot be chosen or changed. Our society has collectively tried to put its thumb on the scale in an attempt to make everyone equal, by holding one segment of the population back while identifying and rewarding others who are perceived to be victims of past discrimination. Collective guilt over society’s past sins has caused many to endorse such an approach, which in my mind does nothing but reinforce tribalism and instill the “us vs. them” mentality, which is exactly what we’re trying to eradicate.
Our country’s founders never promised equal outcomes. The idea is that we all have equal opportunity to succeed — or fail — and that success or failure is up to the individual, not the melatonin content of someone’s skin.
Let’s quit the racism. When we all do that, there is no reason for anyone to identify as anything other than a member of the human race. Let’s learn from each other and celebrate our humanity. Enough of special treatment for anyone because of physical attributes.
i would just like to add that the founding fathers said ‘we are all CREATED equal’. that to me means when you are born you are not born above another person in the eyes of the government. now let me think… who gets treated differently by the government at birth?
From the Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3:
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.
So even as the words “All men are created equal” were being said, actually some were on 3/5ths “equal”. In the Constitution.
then we should form a more perfect union
And died fighting a war over the issue to improve it. How can you simultaneously criticize for something and not credit the improvement unless your sole goal is to tear down, not build?
Sigh…
My point is that the Founding Fathers were quoted, “All men are created equal”. The same Founding Fathers also designated a huge chunk of the population 3/5ths.
The CoI and the Constitution are great documents in many ways, but the original racism was there from the beginning. Yeah”we” fought a war decades later that killed 600K people. Because of that fundamental flaw in the founding the US. The repercussions still reverberate to this day.
The Civil War did not end it. It ended legal slavery. It also birthed the KKK and Jim Crow laws.
And the Civil Rights Act of 1964. And before that the 15th Amendment, the 19th Amendment. When the Constitution was written, slavery was still constant around the world, even in China and Spain which theoretically abolished it. The Constitution was itself a reverberation of the long, long process of ending slavery. That is no excuse to hold some people as racist but give a pass to others doing even worse horrors. In fact our Constitution is the road map most of the rest of the world has used in some form or another to institutionalize an ever widening freedom for more people.
I agree, it is the inspiration.
But don’t deny that the history of the United States has a farkton of institutionalized racism. Of course, it has improved, but to pretend it still doesn’t permeate our “culture” is what I am talking about.
It’s the pretense that all that racism is in the past and we should not talk about it anymore is what I am talking about. Oh, and don’t me feel guilty just because I am white. I find the people who feel that they are forced to “feel guilty” are the ones who are defending people like this guy.
I don’t feel guilty. I just want to improve the continuing unfairness.
But does that need include making others feel guilty because of being white?
Again…if your first response to the situation is that you resent being made to feel guilty, then you are approaching it the wrong way.
As I said somewhere in this thread, recognizing that racism is still a problem in this country and trying to remedy it is not the same as felling guilty.
Not saying you are one those who celebrate white power/pride, but those defending people like this guy talking about “Heritage” really, really don’t want to acknowledge that part of that “Heritage” was and still is packed to the rafters with racism and the resulting damage it has done.
And it certainly exists in Humboldt County. Funny story. I was driving from Ruth down to Eureka, in the mid-70s. On 36, as dusk approached, there was a Black guy, dressed in leathers sticking his thumb out. I stopped and picked him up, because I was worried for the guy, being out in the middle of nowhere in the woods.
Before I could ask him “What the Hell are you doing out here?” he thanked me over and over for picking him up. His bike had broken down and he was very worried about being stuck out there. Nice guy.
Antiquarian arguments don’t really add much to the discussion of racism. Discussion of more proximate conditions is much more relevant, but also a lot messier and more nuanced.
The narrative of the 3/5 provision is grossly distorted. Voting was restricted to male property owners. Most people not enfranchised to vote or be represented counted for 0/5, but a compromise was made in the case of slaves to increase the representation of slave states. The slave states got 3/5 credit for their slave populations, but in principle they should have had zero credit. Legally-enfranchised Free Negroes were credited at 5/5. So the 3/5 provision was more about increasing the representation of slave holders than it was about race per se.
Well said Mr. Cochrane. I would like to add I once knew a true white racist. He had the swastika tattooed on his chest, with an MS13 on the shoulder (MS13 stood for Chapter 13, Mississippi, aryan brotherhood). He would only refer to black people by the n word. He did, however, spend 16 years in prison for transporting cannabis in the deep south. The prison population was 90% black. Maybe his hatred came from that? He’s dead now, so I’m sure there are people out there who will rejoice at that.
Guilt tripping white people, to my way of thinking, is not the way to solve this problem. Educating them to how racism is hurting everyone is more appropriate. Who wants to hurt other people? Not me.
There is a more subtle form of racism out there. People who make jokes using race as the subject. Also, while it is fine to say someone has “run off the rails”, it is not fine to say they are “off the reservation”. Think before you speak. Unless, that is, your intention is to hurt or offend someone.
Tax Payer doesn’t sound racist to me, but he may be politically incorrect. Being politically correct hides problems; it doesn’t bring them out in the open, where more people would learn about them. Just take note of all the discussion by TP’s political incorrectness. Got the blood flowing, didn’t it. And the discussion. Keep on truckin, TP.
The most recent use of “off the reservation” I can recall was back in 2016 when Hillary Clinton talked about men going “off the reservation.” She wasn’t called out over it. So it seems “off the reservation” is ok if it’s referring to the reservation for men.
Here here!
Does anyone really think that cancelling this man’s business and livelihood will wake him up to the possibility of his ideology being flawed?
Like…. Hitler blamed the Jews for the financial ruin of Germany. This is only going to prove an actual Nazi correct.
Kym this creep is my neighbor and he was busted for paying a prostitute a few years back. From his bonding/contractors Lic. Info his address is public information. Would it be okay with you if I published this info? I’m not promoting violence in anyway but that way members of our community will know where to find his business if they need any roofing done…or perhaps would just like to have a talk with Nick about his interesting choice of tattoos? I wanted to clear it with you so not to violate any of your rules but as a Lic. and bonded roofer this is public info. I have the article about the prostitute as well…would you like me to send it along with the arrest record/court minutes for you to publish?
Thank you for all you do!
James, you are welcome to link to the article about his arrest if you like but I don’t want to post his address. The name of his business is in the comment section of the Facebook post linked in the letter above if people looking for roofers want to avoid it. But I absolutely discourage spreading hate and violence in any form. And I can’t see any use to post his address except to attack him.
Thanks for clearing that up. I will upload the court minutes shortly. The scary part is the girl was underage.
Kym, by not posting his business name you are in a way protecting him. If we want these people out of our community then the public needs to know the biz name and where he can be found (his office is out of his home.) By getting a big group together we can protest so the entire neighborhood knows about this man. It’s no different then the Megan’s Law website which publishes the names and addresses of sex offenders in CA.
I linked to the post. The name of the business is there because people should have the information they need to not support that business. But frankly, my faith in my fellow citizens after reading the comment section there (and mind you I read this one multiple times a day) is shaken. People who hold themselves as good people using terms like white trash and sneering at the man’s appearance don’t make me feel like participating in doxing the man will lead to invites to open dialogue but rather to violence and I’m not participating in that process.
How about ya’ll leave the guy alone? If he truly is such a bad guy, the world has a way of taking care of such things. Seems like a lot of you want to stir the shit. If you don’t want to hire him to work for you, fine, but attempting to blast a person publicly across the internet and then want to post their address pretty much puts you in the same boat as that individual. Whatever happened to trying to hold ourselves to a higher standard? This is America, you are allowed to believe in whatever you believe in, regardless of what other people think. Posting someone’s address is inviting trouble, not for the individual whose address you are posting, but most likely for anyone who decides to cause trouble on that piece of property. I find it funny how in the name of equality and rights so many people are willing to harass someone and trample on their rights. Mind your own business used to be a big theme in Humboldt, not anymore.
Yeah its almost as if they are super authoritarian like Hitler, lol.
Complete agreement, 1911.
The guy was hunting for honest work, believe this, roofing is hard work.
If the local racist club destroys this man’s livelihood because of their racism, Who is in the wrong?
What is the local racist club?
Yeah, except sex offenders have engaged in actual misconduct whereas this man has engaged in THOUGHTCRIME.
james do you really hate prostitution? prostitution is legal in the state of california, you just have to take a picture of it (even a blurry one) and file with the government (meaning taxes) the name of the consenting parties (its how they make pornos)
……and the guy with the swastika gets all the press he wants.
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I need some roof work done. Do you know the business’s info so I can get a quote?
He was arrested with a hooker a few years back. Why is this not being talked about? This man is a creep show!!
Because it’s not relevant. Recently there was a gay rights activist who was caught in a compromising position with a male escort and drugs. Should that be gratuitously broadcast as well?
Kym meth can lower your inhibitions and immune system (when doing too much) which can lead to a more susceptible host for the aids especially through the anal cavity (the anus absorbs thing quicker and more readily, look at liquor. and raw body tissue)
So, what I am gathering from this conversation is that because I am white, not by choice but by birth, I’m automatically a racist. However, since I don’t refuse to buy produce sold by Hispanics standing on street corners, I don’t refuse to use dairy products from local ranchers who hire Portuguese workers a lot, I enjoy shopping at convenience stores owned by imigrant people from India, eat at many different restaurants serving foreign cuisine, have close friends who are Native Americans, and the list goes on, I beg to differ. Just because I am proud of where I come from I am considered even more racist. Give me a break!
I assume you don’t have a Nazi symbol tattooed on your arm, wear white power t shirts or pay for sex from underage girls? That would be the difference between you and Mr. Nick Williams. Glad I could clear that up for you. Do you know how many young girls are trafficked into this area so creeps like this toothless wonder can have their way with them? 1 is too many and he needs to leave our county. Yesterday……
I’m not wild about sneering at someone’s looks. Please avoid it.
I know there are a lot. However, the majority of sex traffickers here I am aware of through a lengthy amount of training from Humboldt’s leading expert who was also trafficked are black. That is not racist that is fact. There times facts are just that. I’m sure there are others that also traffic.
It scares me what would happen if an underage African American prostitute had shown up at his door? He might have thrown a lil temper tantrum like he did when I made him fix some mistakes he made roofing my garage (unfortunately, I hired this clown a few years back. Terrible job btw.
I’m not a roofer and I pointed out his mistakes and made him fix them.) [edit]
actually buying that fruit on the street corner is a crime. it is illegal to sell anything on public property even parking a vehicle on the street with a for sale sign is illegal even if it is registered and legal to park on the street. now you can sell fruit on private property right off of the public sidewalk
I don’t care. They’re entrepreneurs doing things the American way, providing value for money.
the american way (my whole point) is to not use public property with no business license to sell anything. thats the way they do it in mexico.
Still a much better business model than a hedge fund that puts forth risky financial products then gets bailed out by the government.
i wasnt comparing. but i like living in america. have you ever been to tj? they literally walk in and out of traffic trying to sell you crap. is that what you want
Where do you “come from” Mr. Alf?
America. That’s all that matters.
Do you not know your family history beyond “America”?
Of course I do. But that should never matter to you. What matters is that we are all equal. I don’t intend to wear shirts that say white pride, black power, or anything else like that. I choose to wear souvenir shirts that show the great places I visit all over the country. I have so many from our parks, restaurants, stores, and everywhere I go. I took a 3 week trip a couple years ago and brought home 19 new collector shirts. I now have a couple hundred from all over the US. One of my favorite ones is Roscoe’s House of Chicken and Waffles. I love the jovial atmosphere! I also love National Parks. US flag shirts are really great too.
Interesting digression, but digression nonetheless.
I only ask where you’re from because you made a point about being proud of it..
So you are proud to be American, it sounds like. That’s far different than “white power” or “white pride”, wouldn’t you say?
Shit, minorities and immigrants are proud to be American, and America welcomes that sentiment.
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legal immigrants are proud to be american because they had to work for it. there are plenty of illegal immigrants that are more proud of the country they left. do you remember those caravans that came here waving the flags of the countries they were leaving
The reason I make any point about being a white male is because the article, as well as most articles about racism never include that it’s ok to be white, much less proud of where you come from. Most articles call for me to apologize for being white, which will never happen. Yes, my heritage immigrated to the United States from European Countries, a lot of which were extremely corrupt in both religion and government. No, my heritage is not from those original immigrants, but that doesn’t matter either. That is why the United States exists. The people wanted freedom. Ever since, to be an American is not a right, it is a privilege and an honor. The racist groups, whether whites supremests, black power, some Native American pride groups, Hispanics who came here illegally and wave Mexican or Guatemalan or any other flag but the one sanctioned United States flag are all in the wrong when it comes to racism. There is no superior race in this country. There is, however, no room for anyone who thinks their race is supreme over all others. There is no room for people whose answer to all their problems is to say they are the victim of racism. There is no room for people who do nothing in life but stir up racism through unnecessary and unfounded racial protests.
Now, I realize that because the United States is a place of freedom, these groups have the rights to do any of the above listed things and more. But having the right and following through with it is not always the right thing to do. Those who do show with almost 100 percent certainty they are the racist.
I don’t know the guy who sparked this article and so I can’t comment on his beliefs. I can, however, say that what he did is no different than what I listed above, whether right or wrong. I am a journeyman roofer myself and have never seen this personally with any of the hard working guys I worked with and call friends. And yes, most of them were young white males as I was when working in the industry. Noone I worked with was a racist.
My point: be a proud American. Focus on America first. If America is indeed the greatest country on earth, act like it. When Americans are at their best, they support and help each other and the world with all challenges, regardless of race, religion color…
Why do so many immigrants protest and wave their own country’s flag? I was seeing it on the news all the time before i got rid of tv. As an American, that pisses me right off and I really just wanted them to go back to whatever place that flag was from. I get really stoked about immigrants being stoked about my country. It should also be a prerequisite to learn English before entering, it doesn’t have to be perfect, but immigrants absolutely need to learn enough to get around. Its incredibly disrespectful to show up to my country and not even try to learn my language? I was taught back in middle school that the greatest form of respect you could show to someone in a different country was that you took the time to learn their language. I am fluent in two languages and know enough in two others to get around. Its extremely disrespectful when a migrant caravan shows up illegally, waving their mexican flag, and screaming to and protesting about immigrating in spanish. Give me a break.
Because America is a melting pot and you’re culture is dependent upon immigrants in order to be unique.
If only Americans embraced the mantle of colonizers instead of immigrants, this whole “nation of immigrants” lie would die down.
You are also supposed to assimilate to the culture of the country you go to. Not assimilating only promotes division of people into their own little clicks. If that is allowed to prevail, our nation would surely break apart. The language of the United States is English, it always has been. Speaking one unified language and being happy to wave the American Flag in America would be a great start to quelling the division.
And government offices like the welfare office are required to provide interpreters for all non English speakers at no cost as well as forms in any language that comprises a certain percentage of the population, whether legal or illegal immigrants. Failure to do this causes sanctions and financial penalties. Refusing to learn English is seriously setting them up for poverty and welfare dependence by their own choice.
Suck it up and learn the language. Suck it up and participate in American culture. Quit wasting OUR tax dollars on this crap.
Best Roscoe’s is off MLK boulevard in LA. First time I had ever been seated by a waiter with a gun in the US. Food was great and it was tons of fun.
I’ve been to the one in Pasadena. It was pretty mellow and fun. Then I went to the one in Inglewood because it was close to a doctor office I had to go to. This one had full security inside and outside. Still a fun time! I hope they don’t suffer too much from the stay at home orders.
Another gem of Inglewood is the Sweet Red Peach. It is a gourmet cake and cupcake shop. This super nice black lady won cupcake wars on the food network. It’s right next door to the doctor office. Beautiful people making an amazing product.
One ideology being wrong doesn’t make an ideology that presents itself as the opposition to the wrong ideology a right ideology.
I will choose not to use this guy to do any work for me just as I choose not to knowingly give money to businesses owned by pot growers , which are usually money laundering operations. In fact I left a particular fight gym when I found out the owner was a greedy mega grower.
You are not born racist you are taught. You are not born to hate another human because of skin color, sex or religion. You learn hate from other humans. The key is YOU and if your to fucked up mentally to not appreciate the universe’s beauty of humanity in whatever form or belief then the universe seriously has wasted a lot of energy on you for nothing. Also for the record, technically, Black and White are not colors.
https://youtu.be/he77MtyxtQo
Look at all the haters pointing one finger at one guy while all those fingers pointing back at themselves.
So what if he has tattoos and a shirt that shows he has no shame for being white and proud.
If he were any other race with the same extremist ideology no one would bat an eye
Hypocrisy is Your God, fear mongering is your weapon.
So I can’t have white pride without being racist? I can’t be proud of my foreparents and publically say so, my ancestors who came from Europe? (But we can have Native Pride, Black Pride, Latino Pride, Gay Pride). I’d say that there’s a disconnect here in continuity of thought.
As well, the statement starts with them stating that they want to have everyone included in the community, and then reverse that by chastising Mr White Power. Can’t have it both ways.
We’ll never be rid of racism by treating it with an intolerance similar to the type used by racists. That only makes it more stubborn. An eye for an eye makes everyone blind, as Gandhi said.
i hate that saying. an eye for an eye makes everyone blind.
no.
an eye for an eye only makes the bad people and those they afflicted blind. and only half blind. not everybody plucks out someones eye
Tax Payer you sound like you have way too much time on your hands.
Get off the PC and go for a walk to cool off!
This article makes me so happy! Friends and I have seen this man around repping his swastika tattoos for quite some time now, always driving that Humboldt Roofing truck. Glad he’s being publicly and locally blasted – what an absolute fucktard! ????
There is an old song performed by The Kingston Trio called the Merry Minuet that could inform this discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z26XJbnpeA
I was called poor, white trash, Okie for much of my young life. After kicking the crap out of idiots for a long time I decided I didn’t have to correct stupidity and got on with my life.
Let God sort ’em out.
Agreed, very close to the story of life and why we keep surviving.
Two things stand out in mind as I read these comments.
One is Utah Phillips singing “I’m finding out there’s just one kind of war / The one going on between the rich and the poor.”
The other is Studs Terkel’s interview with former Klansman CP Ellis, who may not have listened to Utah but knew what he was talking about.
An excerpt:
“It disturbs me when people who do not really know what it’s all about are so very critical
of individual Klansmen. The majority of ‘em are low-income whites, people who really don’t
have a part in something. They have been shut out as well as the blacks. Some are not very well
educated either. Just like myself. We had a lot of support from doctors and lawyers and police
officers.
Maybe they’ve had bitter experiences in this life and they had to hate somebody. So the
natural person to hate would be the black person. He’s beginnin’ to come up, he’s beginnin’ to
learn to read and start votin’ and run for political office. Here are white people who are supposedto be superior to them, and we’re shut out.
I can understand why people join extreme right-wing or left-wing groups. They’re in the same boat I was. Shut out. Deep down inside, we want to be part of this great society. Nobody
listens, so we join these groups.”
The whole interview is well worth reading: https://college.cengage.com/english/chaffee/thinking_critically/8e/students/additional_activities/p198.pdf
Man, what a world we live in when you have to find something to be offended by on Facebook. I guess there’s nothing else going on since social distancing, but really? “Racism 2020, there was this one guy whose picture was on Facebook”. How did we all survive the atrocities of this decade?
1st Amendment even protects idiots.
And, as a Viking, our symbol for the sun needs to be relinquished from dummies.
??I’ve stayed away from this shit show all day but science kept bringing me back. There is no true white race. If you believe in Creation by God you came from the Middle East. If your an Evolutionist then you started either in southern Africa or the Middle. Whites are abdominal. ?????????
Like this?
Wrong! We are the descendants of punk ass teenage humanoids from another planet who wrecked Mom and Dads rocket ship on earth when they got sucked through a black hole. Their skin color was the colors of the rainbow. Our skin colors are the result of the evolution from rainbow to solid colors because our alien ancestors were horny bastards.
Willie, just a fact check. If you believe in God, you know that different races and languages came as a result of mankind saying they didn’t need God after Noah’s flood. They built the tower of Babel as a symbol of that choice. God stepped in and confused their languages and made different races so they would spread out aver the whole world instead of staying all together. Science had absolutely nothing to do with it.
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??And still we’re all inbred from what are “not my potus “describes as shithole counties which means we are all decanted from brown skinned people. ????
I’m not Willie. I’m pure european. My ancestry can be traced all the way back hundreds and hundreds of years to an old Viking named Ragnar Lodbrok. After conquering all of the north, we settled in Ireland. My last name is very strong Irish and I have many roots and family there, even a famous pub named after us and still owned by us, all descended from Vikings. My family came over on a ship which sank off the coast of New England in the mid-1800s, my great great great grandma was one of the few survivors and floated to shore on a piece of driftwood. Needless to say, I am descended from a strong line of conquerers and survivors, and not much has changed. Maybe thats why I love fighting and conquering so damn much, pretty hard to go against hundreds if not thousands of years of breeding.
> Fact Check
> Believe in God
That’s some good comedy, right there.
I am very abdominal Willie! I eat a ton of food!
Why is divergent evolution within humans such a problem?
Cause there is no such thing. We are all Homo Sapiens, except for the possibility of the Sherpas in Tibet. There has been small changes through micro-evolution, such as melatonin content, bone structure, and facial composition. The day someone is born that is not a Homo Sapiens is the day people will be different. Oh and guess what? If that happens, then racism will be justified because there will be a truly different race that could potentially be superior and wipe us all out. I mean, we wiped out all other species of humans didn’t we? I’m sure the Neanderthals wish they would’ve killed us before we killed all of them.
In that case, the first ones to do so will be labeled superior. And thus, striving for supremacy becomes a reasonable goal.
I’d rather ensure human biodiversity rather than us become a homogenous culture worldwide, but I guess your solution works too. Whoever strives to the top and makes it happen first wins!
Tax Payer is kind of transparent.
He pointed out South Africa as racist, and at first it surprised me that he would accuse white people of being evil and racist because of their Apartheid policy. Then it struck me, he was saying white people in South Africa are innocent victims. The lack of any sense of irony is astounding.
Tax Payer thinks it is okay to have a congress and senate that is almost entirely white males. The same group of white males who don’t care if Tax Payer remains at the bottom, without any opportunity to improve his life. As long as Tax Payer doesn’t blame congress and senate, and instead blames affirmative action.
Tax Payer said:
“racism is real in places like south africa. it is not punishable by law
if a black man kills a white man and takes his land.
there is a great documentary by lauren southern…”
Billionaires are almost entirely white males.
To keep the focus away from their monopolies, and the lack of competition, they encourage
non-millionaires like Tax Payer to blame affirmative action AND immigrants.
Comcast, AT&T, Wal-Mart, Amazon, Facebook. They have almost competition, and continue producing billions of dollars of profits for white Americans, but not Tax Payer. Does this Tax Payer think minorities and immigrants are the ones keeping Americans taxed, poor and uneducated? Who is ensuring public schools have low standards while private schools produce Ivy League kids? Immigrants and minorities? Really?!
“Tax Payer thinks it is okay to have a congress and senate that is almost entirely white males.”
Did you know that most governmental positions around the world are held by the majority ethnicity of the population they reside in? And its really NOT a problem, unless you’re going to attribute the crimes of the ethnicities to the crimes of their elected officials.
If that were the case, we’d have to make a lot of judgements on other nations and their ability to govern properly.
you are sooooooo right!
the real war is the upper 5% (paying low taxes) versus the lower 95% (paying high taxes). but but but for some reason, whenever i sit down with fellow low income white people, instead of blaming rich white people donating millions to elect other rich white people (Trump and Biden are both equally guilty) they spend all their energy blaming hispanics and blacks who are equally low income!
there is no conspiracy theory here it is just rich people protecting their children and grandchildren, they are just doing what is in their best interest. the stupid thing is watching low income people fight each other, allowing the rich to divide and conquer. rich people vote for congressmen who protect their interests while low income people elect congressmen who act AGAINST the interests of low income people! weird stupid and suicidal. i imagine Biden and Trump are both laughing people like Tax Payer. makes me feel sad.
You’re very close to seeing the truth.
1. The large cities breed and exploit people stuck in the city, forcing them to be dependent upon the ever-expanding system in order to survive.
2. The workers can’t unite due to immigration undercutting the labor, which means you either serve the system or you starve.
3. You also can’t speak up about it or else you’ll risk being labeled a bigot.
That 95% need to pay taxes because they are the ones depending upon the system. The 5% grift off of that in order to make their economics boom internationally. Just as we shouldn’t have to pay for the upper 5%, they shouldn’t have to pay for us. Its freedom from the system that will make the 5%ers pissed.
Nazbol gang, where you at?