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Farce
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Farce
4 years ago

Hey- Let’s pay taxes that are used to pay police to eradicate our neighbors!! So a guy who’s already rich can make even more money!! That’s something to celebrate, isn’t it? So spiritual and cool…so community oh yeah…

Anonymous 9
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Anonymous 9
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Question Farce, did you have an unpermittable parcel (like with too many creeks, wetlands, buildings, etc….)? Or were you just afraid to take the plunge to go legal? Or did you not go legal just on principle? Or did you not have enough cash to jump through the endless hoops?
I’m just wondering where you are coming from. Everybody’s situation is different but most people usually do what’s best for themselves. I’ve seen totally dishonest screwed up behavior happening in Humboldt my whole life. Going legal is way less of a moral crime than a lot of extremely common Humboldt County behaviors.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous 9

Are you part of the faction who pays bounty to eradicate the wholesome practitioners of organic (of the earth) cannabis cultivators?

Farce is real.

You should disclose your personal feelings about the huge conflict over the current sham. It’s not about morals, legality nor taxation, it’s the same as has always been … people love cannabis and people hate cannabis.

Cannabis is innocent. People make trouble for people who respect cannabis. It’s evolved into the stigma and shaming of our ancient ally.

Anonymous 9
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Anonymous 9
4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

I’ve got nothing to do with ganja. Glad I got out sohum, the whole thing was too much of a roller coaster ride near the end.

We all know the cannabis laws and regulations are a sham and immoral but did anybody expect any different? I didn’t.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous 9

I did not have any expectations of anything different. I was hoping the laws would protect Humboldts growing values and it failed miserably. Corporations only care about yeild per square foot not the plant itself. Growing the plant properly has proven to yield the most per square foot. That Last sentence is what caused our issue because of the corporations intentional smear campaign against Humboldts sun grown plant backed by politics that shaped the law.

So, last year the market tanked in Humboldt cause all the shit growers dumped on the market. Corporations seized the opportunity with saying weed was gonna go to 500 a pound maybe even 50 and don’t buy any of that moldy, bug infested Humboldt weed. Well, lol, they fucked up….see most who dumped last year were shit growers and they were packing it in and closing shop scared of the corporate indoor weed.

Now, what is left are the shit growers who went legal (not all but only a small portion grow well). Selling it using the Humboldt name to sell their weak DEP grown weed (supported by relatives in political places) to illegal dispensaries and delivery in the southern part of the state. If they are lucky maybe hope to sell some pre rolls to a legal dispensary.
And….real growers the ones who been growing for a long time. Real growers that know how to yield some of the dankest herb on this planet. Real growers who are proving that we can dominate this industry from our hills and that is what scares the shit outta the corpotations, politicians, some politically backed nephews and a few in-laws.

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

…….and they grow in all organic composted super soils with out pesticides and chemical ferts.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

Hell ya! Probioticz and mycelium Rize!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Hear Hear !!

Yeeted
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Yeeted
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

I wasnt legal and went legal. I still care more about my friends and family compared to money. My weed would blow yours away but you dont see me here talking shit to everyone who isnt legal. I went legal because ILike knowing the market tests for ever 60 substances that people who are not legal decide to use due to infestation or mold issues. I do it for quality control, not to help strong arm illegal grows out. My morals stick with making the purest form of weed without tainting it.

This guu
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This guu
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeeted

You can donthat without growing legally..

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Yeeted

Yeah, a lot of good testing does.. SURE. In Denver a suprise spot test resulted in 80% failure for Mold. Also, many “legal cultivators” under pressure of failing microbial content resort to using Eagle 20..

Not only that but the testing standards are ridiculous. Many organic measures are not approved for use, while they allow Tabacco farmers to use radioactive fertilizers..

I do think testing is important, but if that was the point of the permits, they would have issued a policies of inclusion instead of exclusion..

https://www.westword.com/marijuana/in-random-mold-tests-80-percent-of-denver-marijuana-dispensaries-fail-11467203

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous 9

Anonymous 9,

//” Going legal is way less of a moral crime than a lot of extremely common Humboldt County behaviors.”//

Depends on what you know about the word ***Legal*** and how it’s used to $crew We, the People.

The Missing 13th Amendment: *No Lawyers Allowed In Public Office*
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/missing-13th-amendment-found-lawyers-public-office-letennier

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous 9

Just because a person has gone legal doesn’t mean they’re good neighbors, following guidelines, etc etc. The two legal shit shows near me are examples of bad actors hiding behind their permits. I talk to people all over Humboldt that are being impacted by generator noise, light pollution, smell, traffic and lack of respect, all done under the auspices of “permitted” growers.

Robb
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Robb
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Meanwhile doing their best to create a retail outlet for local farmers. So yeah I’m gonna support it

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Robb

~i think “supporters” et al, should wear a yellow arm band so the rest of us know where you stand.

Robb
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Robb
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Ok fascist, might as well line us up and put numbers on the yellow band while we r at.

Sparkelmahn
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Sparkelmahn
4 years ago
Reply to  Robb

BAng!

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Robb

That’s kinda what’s happening tho.. Red dot.. Green Dot.. The scenario is just a tad fascist… like line everyone here up and send us all straight to Guantanamo already.. geez. Suprised that hasn’t happened yet.. that will be legalization 3.0..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Centerville 101 -where the barbed wire on top of the fence points in.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

And non-supporters wear a red arm band.
And those on the fence wear a white arm band.
And tennis players wear a wrist band.
And 70s mullet rockers wear head bands.
And broccoli bunches wear rubber bands.
And I get in for free, ’cause, you know, “I’m with the band.”

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

LOUD APPLAUSE! LOUD APPLAUSE!!

yaki
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yaki
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

happy to have access legal allows lots of folks access all laws can be changed for the better yes legislate new more and better cannabis laws but legalizing is step in right direction my dad can get cancer medicine more easily and incarceration for bringing him medicine is less of a worry now… change it for better write new better law we need more good and better cannabis laws for sure allowing more freedom access and less costly permits and taxing that part is awful but in fighting is what the powerful want… all cannabis people r still a minority so we have to lift each other up… going forward

Legaleyes
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Legaleyes
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Ever contribute to society anything useful, Farce? Lol. Didn’t think so. . Or not pay taxes ever and leach off the community you live in. Taxes pay for schools n parks n road too DB. You don’t have to agree with taxation it just is a part of society. I bet you use the community resources and leach your way through our society. Then complain when others do something with their time besides complain and whine. Stop playing video games and get up off your A$$

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Legaleyes

Hmm.. I think your comments reflect of being legally blind. Actually, pre-legalfuk… The money that people made, often was circulated locally. The goods farmers would buy would be more expensive. This was our tax to the community. And instead of sending our dollars to the giant gov. money extortionist cartels, we would circulate or money locally.. and help provide thriving business and jobs thru our towns and communities. The monies stayed local. This was our tax, and it was efficient and effective.. And provided well payed small independent businesses with descent jobs…

Lol
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Lol
4 years ago
Reply to  Legaleyes

I pay taxes and play video games. I object to the last comment. Hahaha. Fully legal here. I give more than just taxes back to the people around me. I spend all my money at local stores and donate free time to clean up areas amd roads.

K
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K
4 years ago
Reply to  Lol

Look around you…are there new businesses outside the cannabis industry? Or have established businesses been shutting down. Local funds disappearing…

Perspective
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Perspective
4 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Jeez man….. I get the “spirit” of where you are coming from, but you have become quite the negative vibe merchant. You have become the vegan who goes out to eat and gets super pissed when the restaurant doesn’t have any vegan options. Stay home, cook your own meals and try to stay positive. The world is filled with shitty people and situations. Not everything and everyone works on a deeper level. I can’t blame people for going legal. My choices are my choices and I will live with them. You chose not to go legal, so deal with it. The system is flawed. The taxes suck. Permit fees paying to bust neighbors sucks. Grow your own, untaxed, unregulated cannabis and enjoy smoking it. Enjoy every last puff of that wonderful plant. Be happy, be healthy, after all, isn’t that what this lifestyle is about?

Mountain Man
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Mountain Man
4 years ago

At least its not in my neighborhood. Draws nice people, and more crime and robberies.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

Rod and Farce highlight the situation well! I can say why I oppose the permits.
I can also see that there are issues with the cannabis culture and practices that need change. The Humboldt approach to the processes has been one of misguided and corrupt factions all around. They have issued permits to some of THE WORST environmentally unsound scenes, while handcuffing long standing members of the community in thier yards, people that have small, largely insignificant gardens.
All the time, charging HUGE permit fees for “Legal Farmers”..

I would say that the cards were largely stacked against the small cultivators. What are the true intentions of the permits? Is it all the “Do Good” semantics that have been laid out? Or.. is it about market “Control and Consolidation”…?
I think if the process was really about “The Environment”, or “Public safety” or “consumer safety”.. The county and the state would have made viable options for the small cultivators, to come forward.
This whole notion of “Market Control” thru “Intimidation” and “Unconstitutional procedures” is one big reason I fundamentally oppose the permit process! The very notion that the “Market” will be better by terrorizing and intimidation of long standing members of the community, is a falsehood! Anyone can grow a plant in their yards.. so, spending large amounts of resources on “Market Consolidation”.. is essentially a waste of time and resources.. Besides the fact that there are a number of HUGE scenes all around the state now.. The state through pretty much all of “Humboldt” and the Triangle to the wolves in the very beginning by removing the Cap…. Also, I think this is a way that the Agencies use of “Intimidation” is a method of raising money and lining their pockets with money. This reeks of “Corruption”.. in a way, it’s really not anything but a bunch of “legalized” theft from the major institutions, and it’s a falsehood!
I could write a novel on why I oppose the Permits… there are a number of other concerns I have as well. Largely, I beilive the process was initiated on misguided false information and statics.. If I had felt the permits were in a positive direction, I wouldn’t be so opposed. But, from my perspective, the permits and the process is inherently flawed, corrupt, and misguided…

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

“Legal Farmers” “Legal” “Farmers” –those two words just don’t go together. Wasn’t EVER meant to. Poor example; but, if you lay down w/dogs . . .

“If you are living out of a sense of obligation you are a slave.” — Dr Wayne Dyer

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Yeah, it does sound weird to say “Legal Farmers”.. I could think of other things to say but it would probably get me deleted and not be very nice..

Dudeito
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Dudeito
4 years ago

I went by this dispensary about a week ago, pretty low grade ganja, mostly last years outdoor, shit from cresco etc big money producers from out of the area. Few local products, medicore at best. Nice store though. In the 215 days dispensaries for the most part had pretty fire flower,. Post prop 64 everything is last years outdoor, I don’t get it.

Legaleyes
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Legaleyes
4 years ago
Reply to  Dudeito

You’re funny dude. That’s just not true. All the herb is this years harvest. Mostly local and all NorCal. They seem to be bringing in the best of the best. From what I saw it was mostly greenhouse harvested this season. I noticed they highlight a local farm and farmer and genetic monthly. Seems legit to me. It’s my new and only place i shop now.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago

Here’s the true-true.

“If I had felt the permits were in a positive direction, I wouldn’t be so opposed.” SF

If we were to ask SmallFry why is he so opposed, he would truthfully reply, I can feel it, you can feel it, everybody feels it. Because it’s a way down deep in the gut sort of opposition to a foul smelling program of changing the name, but continuing to do the same prohibition. “Legalization” through this permitting scheme, is a formal and undisputed theft of the time tested heritage that’s been nurtured and provided by the old ones.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

Thanks Rod! That’s the truest! I can be uncomfortably honest. But this permit scheme has made many farmers very uncomfortable! Deep down, it’s widely felt throughout the triangle! It is a theft of heritage provided by the old ones! That’s the unfortunate truth!

The legalization scheme brought about by California really fails to mis the mark on all the public good they are saying they are trying to protect. The county and state have chosen a path of “EXCLUSION” instead of “INCLUSION”.. If they wanted to truely do all the things they claim…protect the environment, generate tax base, protect consumer health.. Those ideals are all best met with policies of “INCLUSUSION” rather than choosing to exclude people and enhance the Original Market… What are these laws truely designed to protect “The common good” Or Corporate investments and conglomerates? No good graces for the Original Veterans of a failed drug war, And pioneers of a blooming industry..

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

The board of supervisors are extortionists. Plain n simple. None of the abatement orders are legal, but everyone fell for it. Any lawyer will tell you the same. Yes. You can have greenhouses on your land without permits. If there is no marijuana visible they have no right to come on to your land. This is America still right? What’s next? Kicking in your door and threatening to take your house because some lolly po-dunk elected local politician has a hunch that you MIGHT be doing something illegal? I call BS.

thetallone
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thetallone
4 years ago

Yes, I believe they call it carpetbagging.

NoLongerHumboldt
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NoLongerHumboldt
4 years ago

Not legalization but privatization is what has occured in CA, have fun with your corporate shwag

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

For sure! Privatized And Gentrified!

sinbad of sohum
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sinbad of sohum
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

the 50s are calling, they want their reefer madness back. 😉

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

THAT was funny SID! They can Have it! As long as the 1850’s don’t call.. I like my truck. Nothing against horses..

sinbad of sohum
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sinbad of sohum
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

hippy horses, out on bail.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

Haha Sinbad, Where are the cup holders on those things? Air conditioned.. I don’t think so.. lol

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago

I love it no longer humboldt! Corporations privatized opium and made it OxyContin than sold it back to the people and made billions. They are going to privatize marijuana, call it cannabis and sell it back to the people and make billions. Legalization is only taxation and regulation.Sucker.

Kay
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Kay
4 years ago

Applauds, best said.

Cmon 2020 elections cmon justice
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Cmon 2020 elections cmon justice
4 years ago

Personally cant wait to see every politician involved in this public theft,Treasonous to the people and country sherade looking for new jobs!!! The corruption and extortion is just hideous to watch and they will get there carma. Land of the free!!!! Pretty funny!!!
Would never step FOOT in a dispensary since 64,they’ll never see a penny of my money EVER!!!!!

Jesus
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4 years ago

Only people crying about legal growers are the black market d-bags that dont wanna pay taxes and are destroying the environment. I personally hope they continue to use the national guard to eradicate every illegal grower in California. Good riddance

sinbad of sohum
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sinbad of sohum
4 years ago
Reply to  Jesus

if the taxes weren’t used against the common folk, you might have a point.

it’s haRd to resist the urge to go with the flow, but at some point we all started shopping at stores for our goods, not from the farmers..

thats a decision most people make make based on cost, convenience, and accessibility.

then trend is against the independent, the middle men are like 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Jesus

That would literally be a very long war Jesus. California would be a complete war zone with martial law while costing the tax payers billions . PS Jesus. Your neighbor has two lights in there closet.

chris
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4 years ago

what about all the meth and heroin.thats the problem.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  chris

Cartels run the meth n heroin. With California laws protecting dealers,addicts and thieves, it’s pretty pointless to enforce laws regarding such activities.Local law enforcement would rather go where people don’t shoot at them and lots more money to be made.

Guest
Guest
Guest
4 years ago

So who are the owners of this business?