[Final UPDATE 8 p.m.] Virtual Town Hall on COVID-19 3-30-20

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UPDATES of important information as we hear it in the Virtual Town Hall:

  • Senator Mike McGuire says that the Shelter in Place is lasting until May 1.
  • Dr. Teresa Frankovich said Humboldt County has had its first case of community transmission (a case not tied to travel or connection to someone who traveled.)
  • Sheriff Billy Honsal says there has been a “dramatic drop in crime and calls for service.”
  • Samantha Karges says they have received hundreds of questions and while many overlap not all questions will be gotten to. However, they will try to answer them eventually.
  • Dr. Teresa Frankovich said they are trying to ramp up testing.
  • Dr. Teresa Frankovich said that at some point when the disease is widespread throughout the community, testing and isolating won’t be a useful strategy anymore but right now it is one of the best way to slow the spread.
  • Connie Beck Director of Health and Human Services says they are trying to secure entire motels in areas throughout the county for the homeless. FEMA will provide up to 75% of the cost.
  • Michele Stephens, Public Health Director, says they are working on getting PPE’s for all the staff working with the homeless.
  • 2nd District Supervisor Estelle Fennell thanks all the first responders.
  • Dr. Teresa Frankovitch said that a big piece is planning for Surge (when many people get COVID-19 and began seriously impacting our medical system here.) She can’t say when the Surge will be but she says it isn’t going to happen next week or even the week after. “The better we do at this front end right now…we can have a huge impact on delaying that surge” and lowering the curve. Delaying the surge could allow more time to plan.
  • Dr. Teresa Frankovich says that normally we have about about 172 beds in the county but we can get up to about 300 beds. But then we could add tents, etc. to get more.
  • Dr. Teresa Frankovich says, “We need to develop the health care workforce.” Because we need the staff to work the extra beds.
  • Sheriff Billy Honsal says, “As this goes on we’ll be less and less tolerant of those violating” shelter-in-place and referring business to the District Attorney.
  • Why not release information about where the positive cases are located? Dr. Teresa Frankovich says, We have to be really careful about not only not violating people’s medical privacy but also providing safety in case of vigilantism.  She said they will soon be releasing gender and eventually ages down the road. The worst people can do is assume their area of the county doesn’t have any cases. There is risk throughout the county. We need everyone to behave as if there is a cluster of cases in their area.
  • Masks. Dr. Teresa Frankovich says, the thoughts on this are evolving. The homemade mask is a tool. It needs to be clean. They shouldn’t handle it. In addition, she stated firmly, People who are ill should not go out even with a mask. Please don’t go out and buy industrial masks. They need to be available for the key people –medical and first responders.
  • Sheriff Billy Honsal says, “We’re not prepared enough.” Not enough PPE’s.
  • How can people help?
    • Sheriff Billy Honsal says, Donate to organizations like Betty Chinn’s. Help family and loved ones. Check in on neighbors. Make phone calls so people stay connected. “Exercise patience.”
    • Dr. Teresa Frankovich suggests volunteering with non-profits and donating blood. Help seniors and high risk individuals stay at home.
    • Supervisor Fennell says people should lead by example by staying home.
  • Dr. Teresa Frankovich single point in time testing for people who are asymptomatic isn’t very effective. As testing capacity increases, she’d like to start testing some of those that are ill with less serious symptoms. She suggests that those who have some mild symptoms monitor temperature and watch your symptoms. Also STAY HOME.
  • Dr. Teresa Frankovich says if you have symptoms Stay home until you have three days without fever without having taken any medicine and have seven days since your first symptom.
  • Sheriff Billy Honsal talks about what happens if a number of people die. We have capacity about 40. If there are more bodies, we do have the capacity to increase capacity.
  • Supervisor Fennell says we have been modifying our policies in response to the community’s concerns. She welcomes calls or suggests calling the COVID-19 information line with questions and suggestions.
  • Who do you turn to for advice?
    • Sheriff Honsal says not one person has all the answers. Meeting with community leaders.
  • Closing statements:
    • Director Beck: In spite of eviction moratorium, Folks still need to make a plan to pay their rent. Folks that are strapped for funds need to reach out to their landlord and to the government for help.
    • Michele Stephens thanks her public health team and Dr. Frankovitch and the people who are taking this seriously.
    • Dr. Teresa Frankovich everyone is a really critical piece of this response. I want to thank everyone for what they’ve done so far.
    • Sheriff Honsal says we realize how much this is effecting everyone. Humboldt County is known to be a resilient and stubborn community. Focus on looking out for others.
    • Supervisor Estelle Fennell: We talk about essential workers but everyone is essential in this instance.

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Dot
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Dot
6 years ago

Thank you Kym. We cannot easily access it directly .

Obliviously
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Obliviously
6 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The guy they had asking questions was pretty soft spoken. I had a hard time hearing him while watching on my phone.

Karl Verick
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Karl Verick
6 years ago

Understand, and be clear, giving up on containment, which, by the way is still recommended by the World Health Organization; throwing in the towel on containment, is a tacit acknowledgement that the United States of America is not willing, or able, or has the resources available, to conduct the mass surveillance testing needed to identify and isolate those infected by COVD-19. If the County Public Health is left on it’s own, yes the personnel and other resources are not there. I find that incredibly disappointing and shameful , but yes, not feasible.

For sure
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For sure
6 years ago
Reply to  Karl Verick

No matter what SAFEGUARDS we observe, if we don’t create RADICAL SAFEGUARDS for our HOUSELESS citizens, this virus will devastate our county. To TRY to minimize this pandemic, I think we need to quickly create grow-style HOOP HOUSES for the homeless, with tents inside the hoops, 6-10 feet apart. Or use shuttered bldgs, like the old KMart, or the Ray’s Mkt in McKinleyvlille, make them indoor campgrounds. It’s not perfect by any stretch, but it’s doable, fastdone,simple& a SOLUTION!

Lynn H
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Lynn H
6 years ago
Reply to  For sure

Tents inside hoop houses are like moist petri dishes- not a good idea.

Probably why we’re not seeing very many homeless people right now. Some people are probably anticipate something like that and are staying far apart in the woods. Which is a good idea- much less likely to catch it than being crammed in together with no privacy.

Empty buildings is a great idea- if they can be sectioned off into makeshift apartments. I think the problem is plumbing…

Mike
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Mike
6 years ago

Prepare to hear the term “containment” replaced by “mitigation”. Containment was always a myth. But so is mitigation really

Karl Verick
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Karl Verick
6 years ago
Reply to  Mike

China used mitigation and containment effectively the result, in a country of 1.3 billion people 81,518 confirmed cases and 3,305 deaths. Our case count is over twice that and by tomorrow our deaths will exceed China’s total deaths. By next week New York’s count alone will exceed China’s. These actions, containment and mitigation are not “myths”. They are heroic actions to save lives, thousands of lives. Now is not the time for smug fatalism.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
6 years ago
Reply to  Karl Verick

China lies

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
6 years ago

Sure, if the numbers don’t support your ideological prejudices the numbers must be fake!

The West is getting a major dose of karma in this situation.

Me
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Me
6 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Yeah ok dude , keep spewing Chinese government propaganda

“Had the Chinese authorities been open even three weeks sooner, a study by U.K’s University of Southampton assessed, the number of corornavirus cases could have been reduced by 95 percent and the world may well have been spared a Pandemic

https://reason.com/2020/03/30/the-world-must-not-mimic-chinas-authoritarian-model-to-fight-covid-19/?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
6 years ago
Reply to  Me

So many factual errors and omissions in that piece of garbage propaganda.

The US government muffed its response to the outbreak and now they have to own it.

ED Denson
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ED Denson
6 years ago

The first announcer was quite clear and loud. The subsequent speakers were difficult to impossible to hear on the computer. I got it on my cell phone and sound quality was much better, and about 15 seconds sooner than the computer picture. That was odd.

So much for the technical quality. The content was awful. Bland generalities, no numbers, no facts. If they have the information, they should give it to us. If they don’t have the information they should be replaced with someone who does. I wasn’t disturbed before, but I am now. I have no confidence in Dr. Frankovich or Estelle. I think they are in over their heads. Sheriff Honsal was similarly bland but he has less responsibility than the Supervisors and the Department of Health, so he wasn’t as disturbing. I don’t think I can be more direct than this: if they know where those 21 cases are, they should tell us so we could avoid going there. Not going there reduces our chances of dying. Not knowing where the hot spots are increases our chances of dying, and of more rapid spread of the virus causing more people to die.

Stay Home ed
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Stay Home ed
6 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

The only thing that’s going to increase densons chances of dying during this time is denson himself. His ignorant comments just proves he’s a danger to himself and to others with his obvious lack of understanding and inability to take in all of the comprehensive information that the panelists laid out . You have to assume that the virus is everywhere and apply all of the protocols to prevent acquiring it, or passing it. oh , like say….adhering to the order of SHELTERING IN PLACE for chrissake . Do us all a favor ed, STAY HOME!

Buzz
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Buzz
6 years ago
Reply to  Stay Home ed

Nah, Ed’s got it right – numbers and facts are what we need.

But you go right ahead and stay isolated just to be safe!

ED Denson
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ED Denson
6 years ago
Reply to  Stay Home ed

Alas, Stay, even the most determined person will need food every so often, so complete quarantine of the non-ill is not possible. Possibly the panelists laid out “comprehensive information” later in the show. After the first half-hour of vague generalities I couldn’t stand watching any more of it. The doctor dodged all the factual questions, Estelle spoke very little, and that simply to state that the Board was supporting the efforts of the doctor and the sheriff. I should hope they are, but I missed the factual Dr. Fauci and the direct and truthful Gov. Cuomo. I fear we are more on our own than I hoped.

Listen and learn
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Listen and learn
6 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

The town hall was an hour and a half and Ed Denson just admitted he didn’t watch or LISTEN to a full hour if it, that fact renders him just another unhelpful empty headed misinformed opinion. Good thing he’s not in charge of anything.
From the beginning Dr. Frankovitch, Supervisor Fennel, Sheriff Honsal ,Connie Beck have been all over the local news, TV, social media, newspapers giving timely reports and communicating essential info to this ever evolving story.

kelley
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kelley
6 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

Ed, i notice you are getting hit pretty hard. It’s seems kind of abusive. I’ll say i was very worried as well. I sent in my questions to dhhs and to estelle well ahead of the meeting. Reporters have been asking for numbers for a week. Monday we only received numbers of beds. No number for how many are icu. No number for how many resperators, Ppe, personell etc. It’s very worrisome

Stay home. Wear a mask when you have to go out. Don’t touch the mask til you take it off. Put it in a bag immediately. Wash your hands next.

Allie
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Allie
6 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

In the county where some of my family lives in upstate New York, general information about people infected with Covid-19 who worked or attended functions in public places is being released to the press.

County officials have acknowledged these instances as a possible public threat and warned people of specific places and times where intersection with infected people may have occurred.

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/03/onondaga-county-confirms-first-coronavirus-death.html

Allie
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Allie
6 years ago
Reply to  Allie

Mendocino County also released more detailed statistics today as to where sicknesses are occurring throughout the county, in addition how people were exposed and demographics.

https://mendovoice.com/2020/03/mendocino-county-coronavirus-testing-numbers/

Lynn H
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Lynn H
6 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

Ed, I agree with you- they should be letting people know. It would help. OTOH, you probably should assume the virus is everywhere, even in the smaller mountain towns. You know there are and have been people up here from LA, NYC, Atlanta, Chicago, Spain, Bulgaria etc. You also know some of those people are not particularly concerned. Neither are some of their associates or bosses.

You can’t go by the tests because they’re not testing much at all. And many of the people coming in from other areas would not be tested here anyway, even if they were testing.

Wear a maskif you go out. If you sterilize it in a zip bag with 91% alcohol overnight you can air it out and reuse it. Wear a hat, gloves and a long sleeve shirt. Carefully change clothes when you get home.

Have someone set up video conferencing or use the online program “drop box” to send larger files. Take every precaution.

You can set aside an area to put paper bags of mail in and then not open them for 24 or 48 hours. Everything is delayed anyway. Be well.

For sure
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For sure
6 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

Lynn H- re- hoops- in any location, and for safety’s sake, there would have to be electricity. Growers know how to set up correct airflow. It’s not a perfect solution, but could be refined. I do like what you said about them distancing in their own tents in the woods. At least it’s not the middle of winter anymore.
The whole homeless problem needs to be solved, but especially during the next many weeks/ months. If testing can ever happen, that would be the best solution. Not looking likely for this 1st wave… We are all living in the present now, and I’m certain that pertinent solutions will be presented-ASAP! Whether we will have any competent leaders emerge from our county, is another story. Time to brainstorm was last month! Given that reality, well………….

ED Denson
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ED Denson
6 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

Lynn H, I think you are right that the virus could be anywhere, altho it is more likely to be around the hot spots. Your idea about the mail is great. We are video conferencing the court appearances on zoom, which I also used for my talk show, and I did my music show on Spotify. So it is certainly possible to cut way back on going placing and encountering people, but no man is an island. What do you suggest doing with the clothes you wore to town?

Liz
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Liz
6 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

Ed, when going away from your home have a plan. Wear clothes that can be washed in hot water. Have clean clothes next to your door. When you return take off shoes and worn clothes and place on a towel. Wipe your hands with wipes. Put on the clean clothes. Put your worn clothes and towel in washer or in a bag to seperate until landromat day. Sterilize the bottom of your shoes, dip in bleach. If you are really worried take a shower and shampoo before spending time with your family.

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

The possibility of vigilantism is being cited as the reason we are not allowed to know what areas cases of the virus are in. That’s an absurd fantasy. If people in this county had that bent, people would have started doing away with the dope dealers and thieves a long time ago. They don’t have the balls to do that, why would you expect it in this instance?

LB
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LB
6 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

Not knowing is what keeps everyone in there home where it is safe

Mountain Man
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Mountain Man
6 years ago

Medical privacy ? In a pandemic ? If there is a danger of infection we should know where to be extra careful. Put a cop on doorstep if worried .

LB
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LB
6 years ago
Reply to  Mountain Man

No if you are at a direct risk from someone that has tested positive public health will contact you

MÀ+ and PO+P's
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MÀ+ and PO+P's
6 years ago

Seems like increased shelter in place enforcement would be more effective sooner rather than later. My wife and I have been adhering to it since it began. Frustrating when that effort and expense is being neutralized by those who have not. And that it is being overlooked. Talk about a public nuisance! Where is Ford when you need him? Instant anxiety…
Each instance is a potential disaster waiting to happen.
Why isn’t everyone taking this seriously? We are.
It’s like some people already got the vaccine, so they’re not scared. Who else just doesn’t get it? (Puns intended)
Talking about cadaver capacity and the ability to increase it is less than comforting.
There should be more of a reluctance to that than a reluctance to enforcing the shelter in place.
That is the ounce of prevention we need more than ever because there is no cure for this.
I want to do my part and donate blood.
It’s essential. They’ve been calling.
Dr. Frankovitch suggests it. OES says he’s seeing too many people in town. Clear the way. Otherwise it’s too risky.
Getting riskier every day.
Not to mention property tax. That will be more of a risk. To pay for it.
That’s an arm and a leg. How about a hand? I sure do want to donate that pint. It would do me good. Maybe someone else, too. It could save a life.
So could you. Don’t wait. Do it now. Please.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
6 years ago

You can pay property taxes online.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
6 years ago

The “increased violations” for leaving ones house worries me. That seems like a huge violation of our rights. It surprises me how many rights so many are willing to give up so fast.

For sure
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For sure
6 years ago

To1911 trust- we don’t have the personal rights at present to go freely about town, endangering ourselves and others. Self regulating is called for , for safety’s sake. This will seem hard, but , hopefully will pay off. Everyone is inconvenienced right now, rights or no rights. Be part of the problem, or be part of the solution .

Mountain Man
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Mountain Man
6 years ago

Has anyone thought about who is going to clean up any motels after these homeless ? Who will be forced to run the places ? They will be exposed to those who haven’t even been able to care for themselves much less maintain social distancing.

Perspective
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Perspective
6 years ago

I would just like to know if the cases are connected. Why not share that info or have they? Did a group do dabs in Spain and return to do more dabs and now we have 18 cases?

Damn those hippies were right !!!
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Damn those hippies were right !!!
6 years ago

Smudgeing or burning sage sticks will help fore sure just please don’t stick your sage sticks in any flying eyeballs, thanks. https://www.cbs17.com/news/check-this-out/burning-sage-kills-94-of-airborne-bacteria-research-shows/

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
6 years ago

This is not a bacterial infection. A virus is a different thing entirely.

Damn those hippies were right !!!
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Damn those hippies were right !!!
6 years ago

https://www.verywellmind.com/the-benefits-of-burning-sage-4685244
Yes viral infections as well, ?? use the force there are many articles that can be read up on this particular topic. WORD UP⬆️

Jeanne P. Terlinden
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Jeanne P. Terlinden
6 years ago

How about the courthouse/vets’ hall in G’ville as a place for the homeless? WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER! Some people need to rid themselves of their personal agenda. As a RN with 41 years of experience in ICU/CCU/ER I retired at the age of 67. But if I still had a valid license, I would be offering my help/support/services. Instead of that, I am ramping up my garden because food will be needed.

Ulysses
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Ulysses
6 years ago

You can pay online for fifty bucks.