California and the West Coast Health Alliance Repudiates CDC’s Change in Suggesting Link Between Vaccines and Autism
Stock photo of a child pretending to give a stuffed animal a shot.
Citing decades of research, late Friday the West Coast Health Alliance issued a statement in response to the Federal recent changes to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s “Autism and Vaccines” webpage reiterating that vaccines are not linked to autism. See press release below.
The Alliance also cited the American Academy of Pediatrics, which reports that the claim of a link between vaccines and autism has been extensively studied and repeatedly disproven over several decades.
Earlier CDC vaccine-safety materials, as well as longstanding guidance from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, stated that decades of studies found no link between vaccines and autism.
Press release from West Coast Health Alliance:
The state health officials of the members of the West Coast Health Alliance issued the following statement on recent changes to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s “Autism and Vaccines” webpage.
The West Coast Health Alliance continues to strongly recommend vaccines to protect our children, noting that rigorous research of millions of people in multiple countries over decades provides high quality evidence that vaccines are not linked to autism. The Alliance is deeply concerned about inaccurate claims to the contrary recently posted on the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website.
Autism is a complex neurodevelopmental condition with multiple contributing genetic and environmental factors. Suggesting it stems from any single cause, such as vaccination, misleads families who deserve accurate guidance. It is not only a disservice to families seeking clarity about vaccines but also potentially harmful to autistic individuals and their families.
Vaccines are thoroughly tested and remain one of the most important tools for preventing infectious diseases. Public health guidance on immunization must be grounded in credible, evidence-based science to help parents and caregivers who may be receiving conflicting or inaccurate messages about immunization.
The Alliance encourages families to seek information from trusted health care providers and reputable medical organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics.
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Reminds me of sleepy touching saying trust the science or i am science
This is a case where RFK, Jr. is ignoring the science and promoting crackpot anti-vax bullshit.
RFK, Jr. blatantly lied during his Senate confirmation hearings or he would never have been approved for any position of responsibility.
Wana bet?
If our leader says it is so, it is so.
It’s all very simple to figure out. Amish children 1 in 30,000 on autistic scale. Vaxxed kids 1 in 8. Cancer in Amish children Zero, cancer in Vaxxed kids 17,000 a yr. It is not rocket science ppl….just simple facts and statistics. Vaccines in the United States are EUGENICS. Go watch the documentary Shots to Eugenics or go research Rockefeller Foundation vaccine program of 1913 The Spanish Flu or listen to Bill Gates Ted talk where he clearly says ” if the vaccines work, we can depopulate between 15 to 20% of the population. Now please do a simple Google search of Laytonville Ca. and see that in 2020 there were 1,211 ppl. Now the population of ppl actually in the township of Laytonville Ca. Is listed as 383 in 2025. The shot killed a whole lot of ppl just as it was designed to do because “vaccines” are BIOWEAPONS designed to keep you sick until you die so they can make tons of money off you. How come ppl without vaccines never get sick???? They used fear to control ppl and keep them sick until they die. Go research….it is really easy to just go research and stop blindly following ppl payed, sponsored or controlled by big pharma.
Um….how about you provide the proof here for your interdimensional claims? [edit]
I refer you to rule # 6
For the love of Kym, and God .
💜 ❤️ 💜 ❤️ 💜 ❤️ 💜
Absolute rubbish. I live near Laytonville, CA. and the only thing that has decreased the population is a lousy economy and the legalization of pot..
This I can agree with you on. This is the same RFK who said before his nomination that “no one should get medical advice from me.”
The Alliance encourages families to seek information from trusted health care providers and reputable medical organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics.
The city of Eureka, a place not known for its Pro-Business stance, wants to run a grocery store…
Those Humboldt Hunnies probably want a cheaper option for themselves first, but a grocery store is a huge management challenge…
In Hoopa, they had a Tribal Grocery store, when I arrived in 2016, which was shortly shut down bt the Health Department due to filth, rats etc… Nobody ever really said, but they had a Deli, decent produce, all the stuff…
Then, along about the 3rd time I went in there, it was closed, and it remained closed for years…
I can’t imagine that a town as clunky as Eureka, is expecting an “influx” of population, when there’s no new housing, little infrastructure, and not much of a tax base, due to mismanagement of the whole place by Big Ladies, Idiot Supervisors and, business-persons who would rather sell Tires and Dope than Food…
Winco, an “Employee-Owned” Grocery operation, is the one positive factor in Humboldt life, and in all of Lake County, one Winco would kill Safeway forever…
Hell, one Trader Joe’s would probably take the whole market…
I went into the CoOp in Willits once, but it’s expensive and, well, snooty to older people…
Safeway isn’t safe, Winco isn’t winning with its moldy produce, Target is where the poor go to shoplift, and, the City of Eureka couldn’t operate a Grocery Bag much less a Grocery Store…
The best I have seen in Humboldt, is Shop-Smart in Redway, and they do a good job but you need a pile of dough to shop there…
It’s a Grocery-Desert, but I don’t need much more than an occasional run to COSTCO for paper products and Pet Chow, and I am staying on my low-fat, no-seed-oil, no sugar and little wheat diet, for the duration…
There are plenty of Government Assistance options to get money, and the average College Student only needs Ramen, Campbell’s Soup and a Costco-size bag of potatoes anyway…
I personally lived on cheap beer and fast-food, but I had a job and it was a long time ago…
When I see the Clown-Car Government in action, I gotta say, entertain some new Businessmen to locate in your Pathos-Filled little town, and make do with what you got…
AND, since I lost my entire chain of what passes for thought, you could do a lot better than listening to Mr Kennedy on nearly any subject, and any time a destructive, highly opinionated Right Wing Lunatic gets a seat at the CDC and then advises people to skip their Kid’s Vaccines, you should refuse to vote for the people who put this silly person in charge…
As for where to shop and where to live, you will need to figure that out for yourselves…
Sorry again for rambling before the coffee kicked in…
Ca said it, it must be true. Just ask slappy Newsom. The most confused bureaucrat ever created by politics. Spoiled rich kid of the year. The face he makes when he doesn’t get his way reminds me of the first time I cut the cables to my sons xbox.
IMHO:
May not be the Vaccines themselves… but unintended changes to the body from the administration.
— web stuff (From National Library of Medicine)
Yes, autism is linked to gut health through the “gut-brain axis,” which describes the bidirectional communication between the gut and the brain. Research has found that individuals with autism often have different gut microbiomes (the community of microorganisms in the gut) and higher rates of gastrointestinal (GI) problems.
Preservatives contained in certain vaccines licensed by the US FDA are as follows: thimerosal, phenol, benzethonium chloride, and 2-phenoxyethanol.2
Thimerosal, a bacteriostatic and fungistatic mercurial compound that is approximately 50% mercury by weight, has been used as a preservative in vaccines since the 1930s.3 Thimerosal is metabolized to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate.
An extensive record of safe and effective use of thimerosal in preventing bacterial and fungal contamination of vaccines has been established,2 but some have suggested that increased exposure to ethylmercury due to the increased number of recommended immunizations in the first 3 years of life may be associated with the increase in autism prevalence.
— blood levels were ok.
The authors did not measure a blood concentration of mercury greater than 29 nmol/L, which is a concentration considered to be safe in cord blood. Therefore, the authors concluded that TCVs do not appear to raise blood concentrations of mercury above safe levels in infants.
— BUT: The Mercury went to the gut.
Substantially higher concentrations of mercury were found in all 12 stool samples (81.8 ± 40.3 nmol/L) from the 2-month-old infants exposed to thimerosal and in all 10 stool samples (58.3 ± 21.2 nmol/L) from the 6-month old infants exposed to thimerosal.
The high concentrations of mercury identified in stool samples suggest that ethylmercury may be eliminated through the gastrointestinal tract.
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We may be looking at the wrong area.
From your post but with emphasis on the salient facts:
“An extensive record of safe and effective use of thimerosal…has been established, but some have suggested [it] may be associated with the increase in autism prevalence.”
I’ll go with the extensive record of safe and effective vs. some* have suggested.”
* [anti-vax nut cases]
You do realize that science is constantly changing otherwise it’d be dogma … right?
But the science is very clear the collective benefits of vaccination far outweigh individual adverse reactions — seen any cases of polio lately?
I believe they did have a polio outbreak in Texas due to the number of unfascinated people there.
Vaccines have made polio a rarity but the polio vaccine only works when used.
Unfortunately there’s no vaccination for stupidity.
Sure…
Instead of clinical trials, we got real-time population experiments with infants as test subjects!
And parents are the gaslit whistleblowers.
When families started noticing changes after shots and not just autism; but seizures, gut dysfunction, chronic inflammation! And SIDS ☠️
They were told that’s just coincidence. Must be genetic. It has nothing to do with vaccines. Shut up and trust the schedule. Except, they didn’t prove it had nothing to do with vaccines.
They just chose not to look.
Actually they have looked and looked and looked. It’s exceptionally well studied.
Here is the ‘American Academy of Pediatrics’ REPUDIATING ACIP decision making concerning the safety of vaccines containing Thimerosal, with a fact check…
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/fact-checked/fact-checked-extensive-research-shows-thimerosal-is-safe/?srsltid=AfmBOooTSLPmSa_pjW92oEhOcHKVvNug20IUmUtJ0E3MxIggn70JEjgX
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2025/statement-by-aap-president-susan-j.-kressly-md-faap-on-changes-to-cdcs-website-on-autism
oh how amusing
science always comes from a worldview so in that way all is political science, or social science.
fun to see some new skeptics of the CDC all of a sudden.
where were they last administration?
criticizing the dark horse podcast?
Science doesn’t come from a worldview. Science is based upon verifiable facts.
The problem with the Trump Administrations CDC, is that he replaced the people who based policies upon verifiable facts with people who based policies upon a worldview.
So was Science used to diagnose Autopen Biden when he was obviously demented, senile, and. Crapoed his pants in front of the Pope? Nope, political Science said he was the most intelligent President ever. Y’all had your chance and shall never be trusted again. No mask mandates, no mandatory mRNA experimental vaccines. And stop claiming those against the fake non working Wuhan shot are anti vax. Quite the contrary. Those who didn’t get the shot also didn’t get the Wuhan. That’s proof positive we were right and the paranoid Wuhan shooters were 200% wrong. I find it amusing every single person I know who got that shot has had the Wuhan at least three times afterward. And still the shooters claim it was effective cause they didn’t die. Yikes, that is self conscious justification to soothe their egos knowing they made a huge mistake to begin with. Now they have god knows what floating around in their weak bodies. Unable to admit they blew it. They have zero Science acumen and even less common sense. Don’t listen to these people as they were the original flat earthers who insist CO2 is a pollutant. Like the dunces who ate an entire bottle of Tylenol to spite Trump and then died. Science. Go get some if u can muster the courage to fight back against the Borg of Political Morons.
Nailed it
Okay, we have spent millions of dollars and much time trying to prove that vaccines don’t cause autism.
Why don’t we spend some millions and time trying to find out what does cause autism?
We didn’t spend any money trying to prove that vaccines don’t cause autism.
Science doesn’t work like that.
Scientists studied the evidence and concluded that there is no evidence that vaccines cause autism.
That’s patently false.
As well, see my other comments.
None of your comments here provide a shred of evidence for your claim.
You want evidence?
How’s that Gold Standard working our re the covid vax?
While it’s hard to decipher exactly what you’re asking,
an article published in the Journal of the American Medical Association estimates that the COVID vaccines have prevented around 2.5 million deaths. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40711778/
So, I’d say the vaccines worked out pretty well.
Jebs,
In an ideal world that would be true. In reality, it comes down to politics. I would explain it to you, but it would take endless time and you would not believe it anyway.
That sounds like a bit of a cop-out there Ernie.
Please provide examples of scientific studies that were tainted by bias and yet survived the peer-review process to remain published in reputable scientific journals.
One Andrew Wakefield comes to mind. Thankfully, his “studies” were discredited. He was published for some time, however.
“Please provide examples of scientific studies that were tainted by bias”
I already told you that “you would not believe it anyway”
I’m not going to waste my time. Those in the know… know.
So…. Why don’t you tell me what does cause Autism. Doesn’t that seem more important? I’m waiting….
C’mon Ernie. You’re better than this.
You have super-secret information that could prove your point but you’re not going to share it?
And now you’re asking me to solve a mystery that science has spent decades trying to unravel?
If you have evidence of flawed studies that have not been retracted from credible journals I would very much be interested- and so would those journals.
Thimerosal and aluminum adjuvants in vaccines may have been studied separately, but have they been adequately studied in combination, as would be found in an individual receiving separate vaccines each containing Thimerosal and aluminum adjuvants respectively…???
The combined effect has been opined to be greater than the sum total of the two risks added together separately…
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4344667/
‘Exposure to Mercury and Aluminum in Early Life:’
“Developmental Vulnerability as a Modifying Factor in Neurologic and Immunologic Effects”
Summing up:
“Rigorous and replicable studies (in different animal species) have shown evidence of EtHg, and of Al toxicities. More research attention has been given to EtHg and findings have showed a solid link with neurotoxic effects in humans; however, the potential synergic effect of both toxic agents has not been properly studied. Therefore, early life exposure to both EtHg and Al deserves due consideration.”
“Ernie. You’re better than this.”
Thank you, I’m rather fond of some of your opinions also.
Those in the know, know that we are continually arguing about the MOOT point that vaccines do not cause autism.
You are continuing to demonstrate what my SALIENT point is…. why are we wasting our time on THAT?
Put your scientist to work on finding what causes autism. It seems to be on the increase. Capisce? please? nuff said?
It’s almost as if you were speaking to someone who was extremely unbelievably stupid.
You are truly religious in your secular belief of science and authority.
facts are subjective if
facts are cultural.
isn’t it the left that deifies the cultural against a common European supremacist consensus?
“celebrate diversity” is a leftist slogan and it demands that truth and facts are subjective according to primitive bands and tribes and cartels.
don’t blame me for being rebellious,
I believe in uniformity before diversity
Come on man you’re not that dumb. You must know that they have spent millions and enormous time trying to figure out what causes autism.
“Put this foreign substance in your body and just trust us, bro.” ~BigPharmaShillz
GTFO.
You go right ahead and stick your head in the sand but as for me, no thank you.
Seriously people, this zealotry for vaccines is not bright. You probably know people who have been made chronically ill by pharma products. But there is little recourse for the victim: the doctors deny, close ranks, give you some b.s., then another med to chase the symptoms. Just look into Cipro and the term ‘floxed’. Disabled is what that means. Although FDA black-boxed, that stuff is still given freely. Calif and esp Humboldt county are the most deluded places in the United States. A reputation for freedom and open mindedness and yet ….
BTW the mercury is the least of the vax problems. Learn a bit more science before you come in hot and heavy with your dictatorial, pro vax, no questioning permitted, no thinking allowed.
Trust the Dogmatic Science!
Thank you for saying this. The vaccine zealotry has gotten weirdly religious. Maybe because so many reject the premise of God that Newsom is all they got! 😆.
People act like injecting a growing child with dozens of immune-disrupting agents is just “basic health,” and if you question it at all, you’re labeled an “anti-vax nut job.”
Meanwhile, anyone paying attention knows pharma injuries happen all the time , and there’s no accountability. Doctors deny, gaslight, or prescribe more drugs to “manage” the new symptoms they helped create.
And the gut ABSOLUTELY matters. Disrupting it in early development with immune overload, preservatives, and synthetic adjuvants could be part of the autism and chronic illness puzzle.
But you can’t even suggest that without getting dogpiled.
California especially – and Humboldt in particular – has this reputation for being holistic, free-thinking, “trust your body” terrain… yet somehow won’t question a single shot on the CDC schedule and in fact doubles down and pushes back against the revised policy of the sacrosanct CDC by green-flagging vaccine protocol /safety on a whim. It obviously has nothing to do with science. It’s doctrine. And politicized pharmacology.
Well said. Thank you. I guess that all those ‘Question Authority’ bumper stickers were just a bunch of signalling to the herd. And most of the commenters refuse to consider actual science if it puts them out of sorts with the crowd. They really have no idea of how compromised (by corporate interests) most of their beloved studies are.
And now Sohum creeps closer to being an AMA company town. Have fun with that everybody.
Yes, the “free thinkers” are all about burning their bras and *down with “The Man”* until they all of a sudden see their mortality and then it’s:
Save me, BigDaddyGov’t! GimmeDatPharmaCure!
Kym Kemp…
This headline is misleading…
CALIFORNIA AND THE WEST COAST HEALTH ALLIANCE REPUDIATES CDC’S CHANGE IN SUGGESTING LINK BETWEEN VACCINES AND AUTISM
What does this even mean…???
“CDC’S CHANGE IN SUGGESTING LINK BETWEEN VACCINES AND AUTISM”
“SUGGESTING LINK”…???
That sounds more like an allegation and/or an interpretation of your very own…
Please, clearly show exactly what “suggestion” you are talking about, please…
And “repudiates” is your word, not theirs…
Does the WCHA really repudiate the CDC’s updated position and information that certain vaccines have NOT been ruled out as a possible contributing factor to autism???
Do you…???
The truth is, is that CDC’s “CHANGE” is to no longer misleadingly represent to the American People, that “Vaccines do not cause autism”, because it, “is not an evidence-based claim.”
Because, as the link you provided clearly states,
“Scientific studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines contribute to the development of autism.”
“However, this statement has historically been disseminated by the CDC and other federal health agencies within HHS to prevent vaccine hesitancy.”
That shows that the West Coast Health Alliance information is incorrect and unsubstantiated, and or at the very minimum, woefully incomplete…!!!
“The West Coast Health Alliance continues to strongly recommend vaccines to protect our children, noting that rigorous research of millions of people in multiple countries over decades provides high quality evidence that vaccines are not linked to autism.”
BULLSHIT…!!!
All vaccines, Kym Kemp…???
Every single one of them…???
NOPE…
Or just some of them, but not all of them…???
YEP…
“The West Coast Health Alliance continues to strongly recommend vaccines to protect our children, noting that rigorous research of millions of people in multiple countries over decades provides high quality evidence that [MOST, BUT DEFINITELY NOT ALL] vaccines are not linked to autism.”
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There fixed it…
BECAUSE SOME VACCINES CERTAINLY HAVEN’T BEEN RULED OUT, AND THAT IS A FACT…
Be reasonable, folks…
Scientifically, it’s impossible to even possibly conclude that certain vaccines that HAVE NOT EVEN EVER BEEN TESTED for a link to autism, are somehow conclusively NOT linked to autism…
AND THAT AIN’T ROCKET SCIENCE…!!!
You CAN’T follow the science that DOESN’T EXIST, so it DOESN’T FOLLOW for the PREVIOUS CDC to have somehow concluded that “vaccines do not cause autism” when certain vaccines HAVE NOT SCIENTIFICALLY BEEN RULED OUT as a possible cause linked to autism…
SIMPLE…!!!
And there ARE vaccines that HAVEN’T BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY RULED OUT…!!!
Let’s not kid ourselves…
WAKE UP…!!!
From the first red link…
“Pursuant to the Data Quality Act (DQA), which requires federal agencies to ensure the quality, objectivity, utility, and integrity of information they disseminate to the public, ➡️ this webpage has been updated because the statement
➡️ “Vaccines do not cause autism” ⬅️ is not an evidence-based claim. ⬅️
➡️ Scientific studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines contribute to the development of autism. However, this statement has historically been disseminated by the CDC and other federal health agencies within HHS to prevent vaccine hesitancy. ⬅️
HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links. This webpage will be updated with gold-standard science that results from the HHS comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism as required by the DQA.
The following, as required by the DQA, details the state of the evidence and studies, and the lack thereof, regarding vaccines and autism spectrum disorder (autism) and outlines HHS future research directions to provide answers.
Background
It is critical to address questions the American people have about the cause of autism to ensure public health guidance is adequately responsive to their concerns. Approximately one in two surveyed parents of autistic children believe vaccines played a role in their child’s autism, often pointing to the vaccines their child received in the first six months of life (Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (DTaP), Hepatitis B (HepB), Haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib), Poliovirus, inactivated (IPV), and Pneumococcal conjugate (PCV)) and one given at or after the first year of life (Measles, mumps, rubella (MMR)). This connection has not been properly and thoroughly studied by the scientific community.
In 1986, the CDC’s childhood immunization schedule for infants (≤ 1 year of age) recommended five total doses of vaccines: two oral doses of oral polio vaccine (OPV) and three injected doses of Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine (DTP). In 2025, the CDC schedule recommended three oral doses of Rotavirus (RV) and three injected doses each of HepB, DTaP, Hib, PCV, and IPV by six months of age, two injected doses of Influenza (IIV) by 7 months of age, and injected doses of Hib, PCV, MMR, Varicella (VAR), and Hepatitis A (HepA) at 12 months of age.
➡️ The rise in autism prevalence since the 1980s correlates with the rise in the number of vaccines given to infants. Though the cause of autism is likely to be multi-factorial, the scientific foundation to rule out one potential contributor entirely has not been established. ⬅️
➡️ For example, one study found that aluminum adjuvants in vaccines had the highest statistical correlation with the rise in autism prevalence among numerous suspected environmental causes. ⬅️
➡️ Correlation does not prove causation, but it does merit further study. ⬅️
State of the Evidence: Infant Vaccines – DTaP, HepB, Hib, IPV, PCV
The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 required that “the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall complete a review of all relevant medical and scientific information … on the nature, circumstances, and extent of the relationship, if any, between vaccines containing pertussis … and the following illnesses and conditions.” The statute lists 11 specific illnesses and
conditions, including autism.
Since then, multiple reports from HHS and the National Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Medicine have examined the links between autism and vaccines.
➡️ These reviews have consistently concluded that there are still no studies that support the specific claim that the infant vaccines, DTaP, HepB, Hib, IPV, and PCV, do not cause autism and hence the CDC was in violation of the DQA when it claimed, “vaccines do not cause autism.” ⬅️
CDC is now correcting the statement, and HHS is providing appropriate funding and support for studies related to infant vaccines and autism.
Below is a brief timeline and summary of the key findings related to the 1986 directive from Congress regarding the pertussis vaccine and autism.
1991 – Institute of Medicine
➡️ Key Finding: “No data were identified that address the question of a relation between vaccination with DPT or its pertussis component and autism. There are no experimental data bearing on a possible biologic mechanism.” ⬅️ 1
2012 – Institute of Medicine
➡️ Key Finding: “The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid–, tetanus toxoid–, or acellular pertussis–containing vaccine and autism.” ⬅️ 2
➡️ • Note: The only study the IOM located regarding DTaP and autism found an association, but the IOM discounted it because it provided data from CDC’s passive surveillance system (HHS VAERS) and lacked an unvaccinated comparison population. ⬅️
2014 – HHS Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality
➡️ Key Finding: A comprehensive review of the studies investigating the safety of routine childhood vaccines concluded that there was no evidence to accept or reject a causal relationship between DTaP and autism. ⬅️ 3
2021 – HHS Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality
Key Finding: The findings from the 2012 IOM report and the 2014 AHRQ report (based on the IOM) of insufficient evidence for an association between autism and DTaP/Tdap/Td remained unchanged. The 2021 update identified no new studies; ➡️ the scientific evidence continued to be insufficient to support or reject a causal relationship between those vaccines and autism. ⬅️ 4
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And you claim this…
“Earlier CDC vaccine-safety materials, as well as longstanding guidance from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, stated that decades of studies found no link between vaccines and autism.”
But, in fact, as true as that may be, that is, technically, not entirely true…
The truth is…
“Earlier CDC vaccine-safety materials, as well as longstanding guidance from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, stated that decades of studies found no link between, [some, or even most, but certainly not all], vaccines and autism.”
You see, the important thing to do is to accept the fact that a possible link to the correlation between vaccines and autism must be scientifically ruled out for ALL VACCINES, before ANY AGENCY can legitimately represent to the American People the as yet vague and scientifically unsubstantiated claim that “vaccines do not cause autism…
Some vaccines might not, but it remains to be disproven, that some other vaccines that have not been scientifically exonerated as far as possible contributing to autism, might still scientifically contribute to autism….
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves by prematurely concluding without scientific evidence that ALL VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM…
Because that remains scientifically unproven for some vaccines…
Until it’s scientifically proven, for ALL vaccines, misrepresentations to the contrary should/ must be, be responsibly and properly avoided, in order to be perfectly honest and truthful…
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/vaccines-do-not-cause-autism
Perhaps this can allay some of your concerns.
Yes, let’s believe propaganda sponsored by big pharma. Seriously ppl have no knowledge or common sense these days. Just a bunch of stupid sheep and they run from the wolves but the sheep herder is the real one who kills them all 🙄😒
Tim linked to an article by Johns Hopkins- not a pharmaceutical corporation.
This article links to the 16 well-conducted, large population-based studies that found no link between vaccines and autism.
Okay – lol.
Hospitals have no financial interests.
Next find me a Harvard study. 😂😂😂
You’re really not making any sense.
Johns Hopkins- aside from being one of the most trusted names in medical research, simply complied the data from the sixteen studies that looked into, and found no link between, vaccines and autism.
If you have evidence that any of the research is faulty, please present it.
JohnHopkins will go down in history as one big fraud.
Perhaps you can weigh this against your rigidly held pre determinations…???
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273286364_Exposure_to_Mercury_and_Aluminum_in_Early_Life_Developmental_Vulnerability_as_a_Modifying_Factor_in_Neurologic_and_Immunologic_Effects
‘Conclusions’
” • Newborns vary in size, organ development, genetics, pregnancy environment; these characteristics per se could slow metabolism or accentuate toxicity of xenobiotics, yet fetuses and infants are continually exposed to EtHg doses proven to produce effects on experimental models.
• The uptake and elimination rates of Hg during the neonatal period (especially in preterms and small-for-gestational-age newborns) are different from anything experienced in later stages of development or during adulthood.
➡️ • In the most vulnerable period of human development, Hg and Al transfer-efficiencies into brain tissues and assessment of neurochemical effects are difficult to model and also to interpret functional outcomes in older ages. ⬅️
• Observational and cohort studies have consistently shown significant interactions of TCV-EtHg compatible with Hg toxicity at low doses.
• We need models relevant to pediatric vaccines to test early EtHg and Al exposures in relation to constitutional and environmental co-exposures and other modifying factors.
• Concerns about the safety of Thimerosal (in relation to the developing CNS) are undervalued relative to its use as a preservative in pediatric vaccines on account of costs.
• Any interventional agent should respect the special stages of the developing human brain—in fetuses, infants, and young children. Therefore, specific recommendations for newborns and preterms should be in place for immunization with TCVs.
Summing up:
Rigorous and replicable studies (in different animal species) have shown evidence of EtHg, and of Al toxicities. More research attention has been given to EtHg and findings have showed a solid link with neurotoxic effects in humans; however, the potential synergic effect of both toxic agents has not been properly studied. Therefore, early life exposure to both EtHg and Al deserves due consideration.”
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Or, do you hesitate to weigh additional information, just because you believe that if you would rethink ANYTHING, then you would have to rethink EVERYTHING…???
That review was looking at thimerosal, a preservative that hasn’t been used in the US since 2001 except in very few cases of multi-dose bottles of flu vaccines.
The linked article below explains some of this.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-thimerosal-why-most-vaccines-dont-contain-mercury-anymore/
Nope,
It is actually looking at both ethyl mercury (like Thimerosal) and aluminum in adjuvants in vaccines…
It also addresses the unstudied potential for them both to be present in combination, presenting a greater risk sum total in the body in combination, than just what the two separate risks would be if added together separately…
“Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.”― Jeff Lebowski
This isn’t about anti-vax vs pro-vax. It’s about whether parents are allowed to be participants in their child’s medical decisions , or whether we’ve been downgraded to legal guardians of state property.
The weaponization of “public health” is depressing. It’s dangerous mandates instead of consent. Enforcement instead of education.
Propaganda instead of informed choice.
And behind everything?
An incestuous alliance between regulatory bodies, pharmaceutical companies, and political institutions that all profit from removing parents from the equation.
You’re not allowed to raise your own kids anymore – you’re just expected to deliver them on schedule, keep them compliant, and trust the machine.
But whatever. No sweat off their brow if you end up with a kid disabled by an aggressive vaccine schedule. In fact it helps their bottom line, because look at all those extra billable vi$its!!!
A fact everyone loves to quote and that is actually big fat lie by omission is “every vaccine has been. tested.” Yeah. Tested. Independently. As a standalone variable. Not tested real time in the wackadoodle combinations they’re throwing at babies and developing toddlers now. Not tested for use one day after birth.
The standard method of science is:
Hypothesis → Testing → Results → Application.
But with the childhood vaccine schedule, what we got was:
Application → Public backlash → Defensive testing (maybe) → PR campaign.
They:
Expanded the schedule dramatically in the 1990s–2000s. Added combo vaccines with new adjuvants. Administered multiple vaccines at single visits. Gave vaccines on Day 1 of life (Hep B). Rolled out the HPV vaccine to preteens with zero fertility studies. Offered simultaneous COVID and flu shots before long-term interaction studies existed
Then — and only then — they ran post-hoc safety studies, done by manufacturers themselves! Routinely underpowered. Rarely long-term. Designed to detect acute adverse events, not developmental shifts
Come on. Autism presents as poisoning; let’s not act stupid. Oh wow I wonder what could be poisoning our children??!!?!
40 vaccines before they’re two years old ✔️
………hmmmmmmmm
Remember if the vax payout fund has already settled autism claims it’s not credible to try to dial back on it now.
But to all those that want to tow the vaccine line, keep on guzzling Newsom’s medico cosplay. And by all means wear a mask. God forbid you get any fresh air to your brain.
You’re making too much sense 🤫
At least provide this relevant information…
If we are going to to talk about it, let’s at least be fully transparent of what exactly it is that we are talking about…!!!
Is that so unreasonable…???
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html
NOV. 19, 2025
‘Autism and Vaccines
QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS
PAGE 2 OF 9 | ALL PAGES
For Everyone
NOV. 19, 2025
“KEY POINTS”
“The claim “vaccines do not cause autism” is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.
Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities.
HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links.
[Regarding the claim] ‘Vaccines do not cause Autism➡️*⬅️’
“Pursuant to the Data Quality Act (DQA), which requires federal agencies to ensure the quality, objectivity, utility, and integrity of information they disseminate to the public, this webpage has been updated because the statement “Vaccines do not cause autism” is not an evidence-based claim. Scientific studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines contribute to the development of autism. However, this statement has historically been disseminated by the CDC and other federal health agencies within HHS to prevent vaccine hesitancy.
HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links. This webpage will be updated with gold-standard science that results from the HHS comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism as required by the DQA.
The following, as required by the DQA, details the state of the evidence and studies, and the lack thereof, regarding vaccines and autism spectrum disorder (autism) and outlines HHS future research directions to provide answers.
Background
It is critical to address questions the American people have about the cause of autism to ensure public health guidance is adequately responsive to their concerns. Approximately one in two surveyed parents of autistic children believe vaccines played a role in their child’s autism, often pointing to the vaccines their child received in the first six months of life (Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (DTaP), Hepatitis B (HepB), Haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib), Poliovirus, inactivated (IPV), and Pneumococcal conjugate (PCV)) and one given at or after the first year of life (Measles, mumps, rubella (MMR)). This connection has not been properly and thoroughly studied by the scientific community.
In 1986, the CDC’s childhood immunization schedule for infants (≤ 1 year of age) recommended five total doses of vaccines: two oral doses of oral polio vaccine (OPV) and three injected doses of Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine (DTP). In 2025, the CDC schedule recommended three oral doses of Rotavirus (RV) and three injected doses each of HepB, DTaP, Hib, PCV, and IPV by six months of age, two injected doses of Influenza (IIV) by 7 months of age, and injected doses of Hib, PCV, MMR, Varicella (VAR), and Hepatitis A (HepA) at 12 months of age.
The rise in autism prevalence since the 1980s correlates with the rise in the number of vaccines given to infants. Though the cause of autism is likely to be multi-factorial, the scientific foundation to rule out one potential contributor entirely has not been established. For example, one study found that aluminum adjuvants in vaccines had the highest statistical correlation with the rise in autism prevalence among numerous suspected environmental causes. Correlation does not prove causation, but it does merit further study.
State of the Evidence: Infant Vaccines – DTaP, HepB, Hib, IPV, PCV
The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 required that “the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall complete a review of all relevant medical and scientific information … on the nature, circumstances, and extent of the relationship, if any, between vaccines containing pertussis … and the following illnesses and conditions.” The statute lists 11 specific illnesses and conditions, including autism.
Since then, multiple reports from HHS and the National Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Medicine have examined the links between autism and vaccines.
➡️These reviews have consistently concluded that there are still ➡️no studies⬅️ that support the specific claim that the infant vaccines, DTaP, HepB, Hib, IPV, and PCV, do not cause autism⬅️
and
➡️ hence the CDC was in violation of the DQA when it claimed, “vaccines do not cause autism.” ⬅️
➡️CDC is now correcting the statement, and HHS is providing appropriate funding and support for studies related to infant vaccines and autism.”⬅️…
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FFS, WTF is WCHA’s entirely hysterical problem with this…???
American medical Association and the CDC are payed for by big pharma and Bill and Melinda Gates foundation so your propaganda is pointless to anyone with a brain 🙄
AND:
What about all the other toxins and carcinogens and man-made substances in the environment?
Lead, Asbestos, Mercury pollution from Mining, Hydrocarbons, Microplastics in every cell of your body, and, Isotopes from Nuclear Explosions…
We have natural toxins seeping from the planet, like Sulfur Dioxide, Radon, Methane etc etc, not to mention Water Pollutants like Hormones, Prescription Drugs and a list of poisons present in farmland, like Parathion…
I was raised in a soup of mining runoff and Agricultural Spraying and guess what?
No damage, no cancer, and no Autism…
When the Polio Vaccine came out, yes there were some “adverse effects”, but the vaccine was changed and became safer…
They call it “Practicing Medicine” for the same reason they call Hospitals “Campuses”:
Because we are all just learning here…
Don’t state crazy stuff, and don’t be a fool either…
RFK Jr says Don’t touch that hot stove.
Half this comment section:
Ow! Ouch! OW! oUcH! Ow! It burrrns! ….
Thank you…
Next up, Arkata – the Resurrection Science March. Hee hawww. Please wear a mask! CO2 is a pollutant. The sea levels are rising and the new billion dollar interchange is gonna be flooded any day now. It’s gotta happen to prove our point! How come nobody from Arkata was protesting about the money wasted for the inevitable algore future? It could have made years of marrow and cabbage soup for the Arkata homeless snd employed hundreds of green guards to further the climate revolution! Hail Che! Hmmm.
Polar bears are dying! Forest fires are not due to Arsonists and lightning, it’s man caused climate cooling! Get that woodpile stocked up, a glacier is coming! Bovine farts need to be constrained, it’s killing the planet and the Taro! Everybody except “us” should take the bus unless they stop at every house, “at gunpoint you will get on th@t ride.” Or else…..Lithium and African child slave sourced Cobalt is great in salads as a garnish! It’s the latest fad in New York! Xonics are the answer to the smartest man since Nicolai! We got him now! The Science is settled, Xonic!
We are all doomed unless you give us more money, or its Jail for u! Damn tax evader! You better report all your tips you lowly bastard! Experimental vaccines work and every American should be forced to succumb to one for the collective team! But, it’s experimental? Oh well, shut up! Wait, what collective” Is that the “Our Democracy” thingy they keep shooting their wads off about”? Oh man, they need Viagra. Hmmm. Yea.
Have a great night and wear your mask. It could come in handy when Atlas, the Interstellar visitor lands tonight and disperses the Alien pcp dust! But remember, the pores in the cloth……are leaky……
It seems they had it backwards
So what’s the consensus? What did all the brilliant minds on here conclude? Did it get settled?
What was the issue again?
I miss Owl hosting Thank Jah it’s Friday. Does anyone know if he’s coming back? Did he move. That show is so much fun.
I got the vaccines, Flu, Shingles, COVID…
I still got the COVID, in 2024, sick as fuck for a few days, then lingering symptoms and feeling half-dead for another 2 weeks… Lost 8 pounds…
I still got the Flu too, in 2022…
No Shingles, so far…
The Vaccines this year made me feel pretty terrible, but I got the Covid Vax and the Flu vax at the same time, so that probably didn’t help…
The point of the Vaccine is so you don’t die.
I think you might have missed that…
“The point of the Vaccine is so you don’t die”
-POM-
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Is that so…???
You know what after reading the comments I realize, we don’t deserve cures. We don’t deserve treatments. In fact the human species seems to be so disgustingly unintelligent and ignorant that we don’t deserve to continue existing.
When all that remains of this world is the scent of the endless bullshit you are ready for Yoga. Yoga does not mean exercise, Yoga is a return to the Kingdom. Silence/ Gnosis/ Bliss are three interchangeable if insufficient terms that point to the same psychological state. This world will make sense. This world will make so much sense you’ll fall back in Love with it, boundless suffering rampant ignorance and All..
https://www.propublica.org/article/rfk-jr-autism-environment-research-funding