Massive Ballot Mix-Up in Mendocino County Ahead of March Elections Being Investigated by State
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This last week, voters across Mendocino County were bewildered and suspicious when they discovered that the ballots they received for the upcoming March 5, election were inaccurate. An unexpected error in the ballot distribution process led to every registered voter in the county, irrespective of their political affiliation, receiving a Republican ballot for the 1st Supervisorial District, causing confusion and concern among residents.
A local woman, Jeaninne Raaberg, recounted in an email to us yesterday her experience when she looked at her election materials, “I just called the Mendocino County Clerk’s office because the ballots we received today are for a Republican.” She said that she has never been registered as a Republican. She said that the clerk’s office was already aware of the issue, attributing the blunder to a third-party vendor responsible for printing and mailing the ballots, which mistakenly sent out Republican ballots across the board. The county has requested that incorrect ballots be destroyed and assured residents that new ballots would be issued.
This mistake has affected not only Democrats and Independents but also Republicans in the 1st district, who discovered errors on their ballots as well.
The current environment, marked by heightened partisanship and distrust in institutions, means that incidents like the Mendocino County ballot mix-up can be perceived as more than mere administrative errors. Instead, some members of the public might view these mishaps as deliberate acts of government interference or attempts to skew electoral outcomes. This skepticism is fueled by past controversies and widespread misinformation on social media platforms, making it increasingly challenging for election officials to assure the public that such mistakes are unintentional and are being addressed transparently and quickly.
In today’s politically charged atmosphere, any discrepancies or errors related to voting and ballots can quickly become fodder for speculation and conspiracy theories. The reader we quoted above told us she thought the mix-up was “suspicious.”
In this context, the Mendocino County ballot error not only becomes a logistical issue to solve but also a test of public faith in the electoral process and the government’s ability to conduct fair and accurate elections.
The issue has prompted the Mendocino County Registrar of Voters, to release a Q&A late yesterday to address the public’s concerns and outline the steps being taken to rectify the problem. See below:
This is intended to provide answers to questions the Elections Office believes you might have about the printing error that occurred in the ballots for the March 5, 2024, Presidential Primary election. As you can imagine, the Elections Office’s primary focus has been on remedying the error so that everyone has the ability to cast their ballot in March. The following responses are based on the information available as of February 9, 2024.
What is the source of the ballot error?
The Mendocino County Registrar of Voters engaged Integrated Voting Systems to provide ballot compilation, printing and mailing services. Every county in the state contracts out these services. There are strict regulations about which companies can perform these services and the Secretary of State must approve a company before a county uses the company. Integrated Voting Systems is one of 12 ballot print vendors approved by the Secretary of State. In this case, the Registrar of Voters was informed of the errors Wednesday, February 7. After learning of the errors, the Registrar of Voters contacted Integrated Voting Systems and was informed that Integrated Voting Systems utilized a third-party vendor to assist them in the process and that the third-party vendor sent an incorrect data file to Integrated Voting Systems for printing and mailing. The third-party vendor was selected and hired by Integrated Voting Systems without involvement by the County. The Secretary of State’s Office has been informed about this error and the County has been informed that it is conducting its own investigation.
What is the process for checking ballots for errors?
The process for checking ballots for errors involves numerous checks and balances. In this case, the ballots were proofread by the Mendocino Elections Office and approved for printing. The Mendocino Elections Office informed Integrated Voting Systems that the ballots were correct and ready to be printed and mailed. We are informed that the third-party vendor sent Integrated Voting Systems an incorrect data file for printing and mailing, after the ballot images were reviewed and approved by the Mendocino Elections Office.
Is the ballot printing and mailing completely handled by outside company?
No. There are numerous steps in the ballot compilation, printing, and mailing process. The Mendicino Elections Office is involved in many of the steps and proofreads the ballots before they were transmitted to Integrated Voting Systems to be printed and mailed. In this case, the Mendocino Elections Office approved correct ballots. The error occurred when the third-party vendor used by Integrated Voting Systems transmitted an incorrect data file to it to print and mail.
What is the protocol for checking ballots?
The Secretary of State has oversight responsibilities for the conduct of elections and sets forth rules and procedures that each county must comply with. Section 20200 et seq. of Title 2 of the California Code of Regulations sets forth many of these regulations. There are also other provisions of law that govern this process. Mendocino County complied with the regulations for checking ballots.
How did this ballot printing error occur?
Based on what we know at this time, this appears to be an unfortunate case of a simple human error at the last steps of the process.How long has the County had a relationship with this ballot printing vendor?
Mendocino County used Integrated Voting Systems for approximately 15 years, until approximately 2 years ago. After utilizing a different vendor for a short time, the County returned to using Integrated Voting Systems in Fall 2023 because it felt that Integrated Voting System was more responsive.Who vetted the ballot printing vendor? What are the requirements for a vendor to manage an entire county’s election materials?
The vendor is one of 12 vendors approved by the California Secretary of State for ballot printing. Chapter 4, Title 2 of the California Code of Regulations governs ballot printing, including certification of ballot printers.
What are the errors in the ballots for the actual Republican voters in the First District?
The County is concerned that there may be errors on even the ballots for those individuals registered as Republican in the First District that could cause the ballots to be read incorrectly. In an abundance of caution the County is asking that all ballots be reprinted, and that voters use the reprinted ballots, to ensure that all ballots are processed without error.
How do you know the overseas and military ballots were not affected?
The Elections Office prints and mails the overseas and military ballots.
When did the Elections Office learn about the ballot error?
On February 7, 2024, the Elections Office began receiving reports that some voters had received incorrect ballots. That evening the Elections Office determined that all voters in the County had received a ballot with the same ballot image. The County immediately began working to determine the best way to remedy the error and notify the public.
How will the County ensure that every registered voter can vote?
The Elections Office is working with our ballot printing vendor to get correct ballots mailed out to every active registered voter. Voters will receive corrected ballots with sufficient time to submit ballots by mail or in person. The Elections Office also has procedures in place to identify incorrect ballots that are submitted and to provide voters with an opportunity to submit correct ballots.
How will the County ensure that no one votes in a primary election for which a person is not permitted to vote?
If the Elections Office receives any of the incorrect ballots mailed that have been filled out, the Elections Office will attempt to contact the voter to ensure that the voter fills out a corrected ballot. The Elections Office will not count votes cast for any election in which the individual casting the vote is not permitted to vote.
How will the County ensure that no one is able to vote more than once?
When Elections Office receives a ballot the privacy label is removed, the addressed scanned and the file is uploaded into the elections management system. If a challenge code comes up in the election management system, the ballot is put aside for the elections official to review.
Additionally, Elections Office staff check the signature on each ballot envelope by hand. If there is a discrepancy in the signature it is challenged in the elections management system and brought to the Elections Official for signature verification. If the Elections Official verifies the signature, the challenge is removed, and the ballot is filed by precinct to be opened and counted. If the signature does not match the Elections Office contacts the voter to re-sign and/or complete a new registration form (a person’s signature may change over time).
If a voter sends in one ballot and then sends in a second ballot, the system will recognize that the person has already voted and challenge the second ballot. Elections staff will research to verify the reasons for any subsequent ballot. If the reason is a result of the mailing of incorrect ballots, the incorrect ballot will be voided.
Is this error being reviewed by any outside agency?
The County has been in contact with the California Secretary of State regarding this ballot error. The Secretary of State agrees with the process being used by the County to correct the error. Additionally, the County is informed that the California Secretary of State is conducting its own investigation into what occurred. The County is appreciative of the assistance provided by the California Secretary of State regarding how to remedy the error and for its review of this situation.
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Mailing everyone a ballot is stupid even when done correctly…
Why?
(Don’t worry, I already know what you believe. I’m just curious if you’ve been able to find any evidence supporting your entrenched position.)
Big difference between requesting a absentee and mailing every registered voter a ballot. Used to be part of running was to encourage everyone put in effort to vote or at least request a absentee. Kind of why they don’t allow drinks and food at polling stations to encourage people with other motivation.
Only sure fire why to make sure Trump doesn’t cheat is voter ID and in person voting. Word on the street the republicans are starting to wise up to ballet harvesting and hitting senior centers/door to door collecting and going to start using the technique. Luckily for the fascists the rural areas take much longer and sometimes impossible unlike the cities.
Well….the rural areas don’t have any voting power. Whoever the pacified urban droids get convinced to vote for wins. The numbers are not close and we have an electoral college system so just throw bread and circus at the city asses and that’s how ya ‘win” the opportunity to represent the Uni-Party of the military-industrial BigPharma BigOil fascist oligarchy for the next 4 years! All of the frustration the little people vent over these elections is energy wasted…peons and serfs fighting each other over crumbs
The Electoral College benefits rural areas.
That is why Trump became president in 2016 despite securing 3 million fewer votes than Cinton, and why Bush II became president in 2000 despite getting more than a half-million fewer votes than Gore.
It’s also why the Supreme Court has a right-leaning super majority instead of a left-leaning one.
No kidding! Kinda the reason they did it when the country was founded! Everything was primarily established “in the negative” to prevent places like big cities – or places like California- from running the country. But… you already knew that! On the other hand – Jebs, you could have become an undocumented immigrant (maybe) and lived in Egypt when The Brotherhood was voted in. Once The Brotherhood started killing people, the voters realized Direct Democracy has a downside. Then the voters asked the military to intervene.
I feel like I’m in a ping pong game. Democrats and Republicans change control of the paddles every few years and we’re merely the ping pong ball.
And every year they get away with it they get bolder…
I’m still not seeing a good argument against sending everyone a ballot in the mail.
People are still allowed to vote in person if that makes them more comfortabe.
The same person cannot vote more than once.
And “ballot harvesting”, although ominous sounding, is really just a term that means handing someone your completed ballot to submit on your behalf.
It does not allow people to gather other people’s ballots and fill them out in their stead.
Voter fraud is almost nonexistent in this country, and I have yet to see anyone submit any verified evidence, including in this comment section, that shows that it is.
With mail-in ballots, there’s a higher chance of ballots being intercepted, tampered with, or even forged.
You’re still speaking in hypotheticals.
Absentee ballots have been around since the mid 1800s.
There is still no evidence that they are anything but secure.
France outlawed mail-in ballots in 1975 due to a series of high-profile cases of electoral fraud, particularly in Corsica, where postal ballots were stolen or bought, and voters cast multiple votes. Additionally, there were instances of ballots being cast in the name of deceased individuals. The French government decided to ban mail-in voting to protect the integrity of their electoral process and so should we — with the exception of absentee ballots requested by voters with special circumstances.
Apparently my replies are “awaiting approval.”
On the off chance that this goes through, you’re still not providing evidence of any actual harm from the absentee ballot sytem.
Hmm…
This one went through no problem.
Well, color me confused.
Just a glitch or sometimes if you misspell your e-mail it puts you on wait.
No kidding! But I can help you with yer debate skills. Feel bad for your students. They figured out they being short-changed?
I’m sorry… I didn’t realize reading comprehension was such a struggle for you.
What did I miss?
Did you post a link to confirmed cases of widespread voter fraud?
I apologize if I missed it.
Could you please repost it?
Here you go…
In 2018, there was a case in North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District where a political operative, Leslie McCrae Dowless, was charged with illegal ballot harvesting and tampering. He collected absentee ballots from voters and either filled them out himself or discarded them if they didn’t support his candidate. The election was invalidated, and a new one was held. So, there’s your example of a proven case of election fraud in the US.
https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-health-covid-north-carolina-raleigh-07c0fbdcdbb4595e4ea0076892c9d294
It does happen. Here’s a piece of the article showing which party that incident occurred in: “Dowless worked in the 2018 congressional race for then-Republican candidate Mark Harris, who appeared to have received the most votes in the general election for the 9th District seat in south-central North Carolina.” (Yes, I’m sure there have been Democrats and Independents capable of similar actions.)
But just as some folks feel that the right to own guns outweighs the relatively small amount of irresponsible or murderous bad owners and that the bad apples should just be dealt with by the laws we have, some folks feel that the advantages of mail in ballots for the majority outweighs the relatively small amount of irresponsible/criminally minded folks that should just be dealt with by the laws we have.
Jebs asked for a confirmed case of widespread voter fraud. Fly provided one.
Attempts to discredit the example by focusing on the party affiliation of the culprit either miss the point or deliberately seek to obfuscate it.
The case Fly referenced wasn’t successful.
If I pointed to an unsuccessful attempt to rob Fort Knox, should I then use that as an example that it wasn’t secure?
Quite the opposite, really.
Surely you’re just playing stupid? If by successful you mean undiscovered then of course it won’t be possible to cite an example.
I thought I was clarifying that contrary to assertions here that the Democrats were the ones stealing elections this was an action by another party. I also clearly stated that Democrats and Independents were capable of doing the same.
I wasn’t trying to discredit the example. I think it is a good example of voter fraud. I went on to state my opinion that voter fraud however is relatively small compared to the widespread benefit from allowing mail in ballots.
Wide spread. Do you know what that means?
I don’t consider one event in North Carolina a wide spread happening.
Wide spread covers all the US and all elections.
“The election was invalidated, and a new one was held.”
The system works.
A strange definition of “works” but okay.
You know your statement is based on flawed logic, don’t you?
Please explain.
No one has a problem with absentee voting. The problem is that you get a ballot mailed to you whether you like it or not.
Anyone who argues in favour of mail in ballots thinks thier party is better at cheating.
End of story…
Or…
They find it convenient rather than standing in long lines in some areas or driving long distances in others.
Those who travel for work or pleasure and are gone during elections. (Say those in the military)
Those whose work shifts conflict with poll hours
Helps those with mobility challenges.
Also, it increases participation
Also, it’s more cost effective
And, poll workers are getting increasingly difficult to find.
Any idea why my rely about a half hour ago to one of Fly’s other comments is “awaiting approval”?
Everything else is going through OK.
See my reply above.
They had that before with absentee ballots. There were also safe-guards to prevent fraud that was known to happen. Poll workers as an excuse is weak as is cost effectiveness.
People could request a paper ballot if they had a legitimate need, and it worked fine forever.
Now people who want to rig elections want paper ballots for everyone! Not to help the lazy and infirm, but to make it easier to cheat. And cheat they do. Do you recall the the Rasmussen survey I posted the other day where 20% of the respondents admitted to election fraud with mail in ballots?
Again, anyone who argues in favour of mail in ballots thinks thier party is better at cheating…
You mean the survey that no one coud authenticate?
The only place widespread voter fraud exists is in some people’s heads.
It’s easy to authenticate if you look. Any questions?
New Poll Alleges Over 20% of Mail-In Voters Admit to Cheating in 2020 — And Media is Silent
New Poll Alleges Over 20% of Mail-In Voters Admit to Cheating in …
Heartland/Rasmussen Poll: One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit to …
“alleges”
That’s the key term.
And the reason none of the mainstream sites ran the story is that the allegations could not be verified.
Obviously, common sense cannot be learned…
…and Corsica ’75…almost.
Never Forget
Again, there are many reasons to want mail in ballots. I despise cheating and people who are willing to do anything, to win at any cost. And I as well as many others support mail in ballots. But authenticated claims of widespread fraud that resulted in actual outcomes different than what was wanted by the electorate don’t exist.
You contradict yourself. You claim you “despise cheating,” but then seem perfectly willing to allow cheating if it isn’t “widespread,” or “proven to affect the outcome of an election.” Either you care about election fraud or you don’t, and you don’t.
Also, widespread cheating with mail in ballots does exist and has been proven to exist. I repeat, in the recent the Rasmussen survey 20% of the respondents admitted to election fraud. 1 out of 5 people filling illegal ballots isn’t “widespread?”
Plus there are stories of election fraud in the news about every week, like: “Arizona Judge rules that the State’s current mail-in ballot signature verification process is unlawful and they violated the law in both the 2020 and 2022 elections.” So I don’t know what world you are living, but voter fraud with mail in ballots is a serious problem, and is only going to get worse…
Nope, you are twisting what I said.
I’m saying effectively…We can’t stop every bit of stealing. We can’t stop every murderous gun wielder. We can’t stop every speeder. At a certain point, we have to realize that the existing laws are as effective as can be, and then prosecute those who do wrong and not punish those who do right by making it harder for them to live their lives.
As to the Rasmussen survey, it isn’t proof of widespread difference between what the electorate wants and what is voted for. Election fraud cases exist. But really? that Arizona case? “Yavapai County Superior Court Judge John Napper, a Republican, said state law is “clear and unambiguous” that election officials must compare the signatures on the envelopes with the voter’s actual registration record. And that, he said, consists only of the document signed when a person first registered along with subsequent changes for things like altering party affiliation. And what that means, the judge said, is it is illegal for county election officials to instead use other documents to determine if the signature on that ballot envelope is correct and should be accepted. Napper’s conclusion is not the last word.” https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2023/09/06/arizona-judge-rules-common-practice-of-validating-ballot-signatures-illegal/ That’s a legal dispute on which is the best way to handle signature verification not some wild evidence of criminal efforts to overthrown the election…Now that happened on January 6 but it didn’t happen with signatures here.
There certainly is room for improvement in the laws for many things. I’m voting that we work on gun laws for instance. But at some point there is a law of diminishing returns and, to my mind, there isn’t evidence that removing mail in ballots will significantly reduce ballot fraud.
No, you are both claiming to be against voter fraud and claiming voter fraud is ok if it doesn’t alter the outcome of the election. Using your analogy, the current levels of theft and murder are acceptable because we are enforcing the laws as best we can. As far as ‘existing laws’ go, the existing laws were abandoned because of covid and universal mail in ballots were sent to everyone. This resulted in massive voter fraud. It is not business as usual, the mail in ballots for everyone is new, and it is corrupting the whole election process.
“A new study examining the likely impact that fraudulent mail-in ballots had in the 2020 election concludes that the outcome would “almost certainly” have been different without the massive expansion of voting by mail.
The Heartland Institute study tried to gauge the probable impact that fraudulent mail-in ballots cast for both then-candidate Joe Biden and his opponent, President Donald Trump, would have had on the overall 2020 election results.
The study was based on data obtained from a Heartland/Rasmussen survey in December that revealed that roughly one in five mail-in voters admitted to potentially fraudulent actions in the presidential election.
After the researchers carried out additional analyses of the data, they concluded that mail-in ballot fraud “significantly” impacted the 2020 presidential election.
They also found that, absent the huge expansion of mail-in ballots during the pandemic, which was often done without legislative approval, President Trump would most likely have won.
“Had the 2020 election been conducted like every national election has been over the past two centuries, wherein the vast majority of voters cast ballots in-person rather than by mail, Donald Trump would have almost certainly been re-elected,” the report’s authors wrote.
Over 43 percent of 2020 votes were cast by mail, the highest percentage in U.S. history.”
You are anti gun control laws if I remember right? But you aren’t pro killing in schools or music concerts right? One can see that there are downsides to policies without advocating for throwing out the whole policy. We each of us might believe there are ways to make policies better without thinking that the entire policy needs to be scrapped.
Spot on Bud.
I’ve voted with an absentee ballot for decades, but I often drop them off at the Humboldt County Office of Elections. I can take my time with the ballot at home.
we never had long lines in the past. Just the last five years, they started manipulating the voting sites.
As a whole, “they” aren’t manipulating the voting sites…They are dealing with a lack of poll workers and rising costs.
Which is a symptom of the state of society at the moment.
Domininon machines Cost to much
No, it is not the end of any story just because you said so. I prefer the absentee mail-in ballots. I’ve been getting them for 30 years. Do you think I’m better at cheating because of it?
That said, skip the rest if you don’t have time. Not a rant really, but more a story. But the point is this is a very grave error and should be taken seriously, considering the material being issued.
This sort of thing irritates the hell out of me, though. Proofreading is not a one time thing. The proofing process is repeated several times to ensure accuracy. What is not said is if they received a press proof(s) as they came off the printers. That is just one spot where the errors should have been caught, and at the very least, by the persons stuffing the envelopes. I am quite aware of the process, having worked in printing for many years and this is a critical mistake, and there are multiple points along the production chain that it should have been caught. Something of this importance can cost you a major contract and, in this case, a mountain of other issues, RHBB comments notwithstanding.
The elections department might have sent the correct files, but it’s up to them to VERIFY what comes off the press before a single sheet or envelope is added to the job. Even a short video or a photo between department heads can suffice as a “proof”, if allowed.
Place the responsibility where you feel like it, but both sides were tasked with the accurate printing of critical information. They both F—ed up.
Rasmussen did a survey recently and found that 20% of the respondents admitted to election fraud with mail in ballots. 20% is a lot. Most races are much closer than 20%. Some are less than 1%. That means that many, if not most, elections will be decided by by illegal voting. Therefore, no sane person would support mail in ballots unless they thought their party was better at fraudulent voting. Again, because whichever side of an election cheats the most is going to win the vast majority of elections.
Therefore, that really is all there is to the story…
Heartland/Rasmussen Poll: One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit to …
Holy smokes! Those stats make it appear as if it were as easy for the demon cats to cheat as it is for our side!
Mark my words (but only with my written permission) if my wife, or alternate lovers ever sign my ballot for me, arrest them. Send them back to Corsica.
I’ll gladly take responsibility for disciplining your alternate lovers. Corsica is wonderful this time of year.
I have “a friend” that votes for all 5 people in his family. All they have to do is sign the ballots.
He helps to register people in the neighborhood that are not that interested in voting, so he asks them how they might vote. He helps the ones register that might vote for his party and ignores the others.
He helps them with their ballots and makes sure they get delivered.
What an outstanding citizen!
That’s pretty sucky to only help folks who vote the way he would.
There was an NPR story a couple of years ago about a party campaign aide who was going door to door for her candidate when she ran into an older immigrant couple who told her they weren’t voting because they didn’t know the candidates or understand the issues because of language issues. So she kindly told them about the candidates and issues, helped them fill out the ballots. Then they told her about others in their community with similar issues. This woman then went from apartment to apartment filling in ballots. She had a couple of dozen she ended up taking to the drop off box.
Now this particular woman might have had an unusual depth of integrity but chances are she really explained her positions only. And therefore in essence voted more than 20 times with zero liability. It’s just too easy to game the system when ballots are passed around. This has always been true but there is no reason to make it so easy. Ever see the old movie “The Great McGinty.”
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Yeah, that was my point, but it is more prevalent than you might think.
Vote in person with and I.D.
I live out a remote road. I work from home. I like mail in ballots.
You do Jury duty in person.
Voting was not meant to be so convenient that it can be manipulated. But it is.
Unfortunately unscrupulous people are the ones that will cheat.
Honest people won’t cheat. Why would anyone want a system that will allow cheaters to control the vote.
Why is there no monitor on cars that keep them from speeding?
Why are there not cameras in people’s homes?
While those would make it harder for speeders and criminals of any type, they’d also be invasive measures that would harm non criminals.
People will try and game a system no matter what that system is. The balance is to find a way that helps the most and hurts the least. In my opinion, the little voter fraud this would protect against is not balanced by the vast more number of voters that are enfranchised by having the ability to mail in their votes.
Voting rates rise with universal vote by mail. for instance Hawaii had about a 14% jump, and Utah, had about a 11% jump in 2016. https://missouriindependent.com/2023/10/09/states-that-send-a-mail-ballot-to-every-voter-really-do-increase-turnout-scholars-find/
Not having vote by mail tends to make it harder for older voters (often folks who are more consistently conservative), rural voters, people during a pandemic, those with handicaps, those who work or live abroad, to vote. I’m for folks being able to vote. And I support any solid measures to find those that would cheat.
Isn’t that considered politics?
It’s call ballot harvesting
Using third party private vendors to do the business of government ALWAYS results in spectacular efficiency. Let us celebrate another win for tiny government! Huzzah!
Amén. Most homeless immigrants in California vote Republican. They don’t have an address to receive a mail in ballot. Not fair.
Trump votes mail in. Has for years, As I have. But for more security, I hand deliver to the elections office. No line.
Same here. I drop mine off on a trip to Eureka…
The French are the only country to build their tanks with reverse gears…..
Don’t forget the Egyptians.
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There is a legitimate problem of some places being very underserved with poll access. No one should have to wait hours to vote, or have to travel long distances. I also would support the day as a federal holiday . Or possibly a several day window to vote in person to make sure work schedules can be accommodated.
Agreed.
Correct. I was going to point that out. California is just like Corsica back in ’75. Except it might work here this time…and less hairspray, and turtle necks…a lil dalliance with the wrong lover won’t result in a blood feud over here.
Republicans can foil these shenanigans by ignoring the ballot mailed to you, and charging in to vote in person! Drop what you’re doing and drive into town on Tuesday the, uh…middle of the first, or second week of…it’s coming up! And then again later sometime for the big one. Work Harder not Smarter!
or set aside, or challenged, or disqualified….
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Your either a partisan hack or incredibly naive to believe sending out mass numbers of mail ballots using voter rolls that never get cleaned up isn’t going to result in fraud. There are countless news stories detailing examples of massive fraud with mail in ballots you just have to look for reliable news not Mainstream media propaganda that said there was Russian collusion and the hunter laptop was fake or that the virus didn’t start in a lab and that the vaccine worked among other lies. Saying Joe biden got the most votes of any president in history is evidence of fraud in itself.
Technically you would have to be pretty naive to be a leftist party hack in the first place…
81,282,916
That’s 7,095,556 more than Trump.
Biden beat Trump even worse in the popular vote than Hillary did.
75000000 voted against Trump. 6000000 only voted for Joe. 388 voted for kamala.
Why did it have to change form what we had the last 80 years? You go in, tell them your name, vote. End of story. Now they have all these other options that can be manipulated down at the elections office.
??,
Does form follow function…???
Or, does function follow form…???
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Excuse me. It’s Ballet Harvesting. Stay on topic.
When we all voted in person, we could watch the polling staff place the ballot in the counting box and could see for ourselves it was counted. Now we just have to take it for granted that the ballot wasn’t lost in the mail or misplaced. That’s why people don’t trust the system anymore.
You’ve been reading the wrong books. Chronic TDS is sad to see.
Dang I never new it was about VOTERS having to put in effort! In that case we should put all polling stations out in the rural areas. You city slickers better saddle up and pack a blanket.
I would walk 500 miles and I would walk 500 hundred more. Just to be the man who voted for Biden.
You don’t even have a vike to ride. You obviously don’t buy gasoline.
And this is just the beginning…The evidence is there for all the 2020 election fraud, but it was completely covered up by our weaponizes judicial system and completely ignored by our biased and corrupt media that is the propaganda arm of the democrat party. Democrat Stacey Abrams still says her election was rigged and she won. Politicians realize that a repeat of the 2020 election fiasco will not be disregarded again by fair minded voters.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/evidence-provided-michigans-dishonest-sos-reveals-hundreds-individuals/
Great link Bud. Why Hasn’t Anyone Been Prosecuted?
Because they are democrats…
The two-tiered weaponized judicial system we see used daily. Liberals get a pass. Conservatives go to jail. Stalin would be happy.
Because it isn’t real.
That story (complete with the full suite of limbic high jack language designed to launch you so deep into your emotions that you physically can not think straight) contains a lot of vague claims and very little evidence.
All they actually offered was two screenshots.
Is that a source you regularly accept as factual?
Wow. The computer is two feet away but the evidence is seemingly unobtainable. Playing games is fun, right? The windmill people……when the whales wash up they will claim global cooling killed them while proclaiming the polar bear is going extinct because the Arctic is melting…..Go figure…..yikes….
You’re not making any sense again.
Hope all is well.
Somebody did make the good windmill point that chopping up a few birds could lead to some bumper hauls of crab…
I’m not sure I agree with that, but I’ll give you a 12 out of 10…
20% extra credit for wit combined with humor…
Thanks!
Your welcome.
Thank you.
I do appreciate good humor, and of course, when well combined with wit, quickness, and originality, it is rare indeed…
I got a pretty good laugh out of it…
More than once…
LOL
Pass them out at the border along with the welcome in greeting.
Mendicino County is proof of that.
So our elections are controlled by third party vendors? That is, too say the least, disturbing
“Third party”…
I guess if you consider the printer of the ballots controlling the elections? Bit of a stretch
More Republican election tampering.
All democrats full mendo
Run*
More misinformation…
More lack of not understanding what is being said.
Lack of a sense of humor will do that.
“More lack of not understanding what is being said.”
-True Matters-
??
Really…???
“That parses to, “More understanding what is said.”
You can times that by 100…
(I’ll take that as a compliment…)
Thank you, Tru Matters…
That’s what I call “Tru Manners”…
A sense of humor will do that…
Pretty sure it was tongue in cheek.
There is plenty wrong with the way we do elections in this country, but fabricated fears about the way ballots are distributed, collected, and counted is pretty much exclusively a tactic of the political right.
I’m pretty sure he was serious.
And you just did the same thing, by implicating the “political right”…
Just more leftist hypocrisy and projection.
It was most likely a reverse psychology, left wing tactic, masterminded and perpetrated by the Democrats, in order to make the Republicans look bad, (Just like on January 6), in the hopes of shoring up eroding Democrat popularity.
The Democrat electorate, in their infinite wisdom, will all now vote more loyally Democrat, and will now be more likely to vote, just to prove that they can’t be outsmarted or swindled… ??
Now, even if the Democrats lose, they can cry foul, and blame the ballot mixup…
Again, just more left wing, lying hypocrite projection…
Wouid you like a lantern?
I can ony imagine how dark it must be in that rabbit hole you’ve fallen into.
He only gets his brand of humor. Like making what he thinks are jokes about black people.
I keep serving him but never get a tip as an example
Concerns about mail-in ballots have been raised by both sides of the political spectrum. While the right has been vocal about potential fraud and security issues, the left has expressed worries about voter suppression and disenfranchisement. So, it’s not just a tactic of the political right, but rather a topic that both sides have been discussing.
In the end, it’s not about which side is raising concerns, it’s about ensuring that the voting process is fair, secure, and accessible for all eligible citizens. After all, a healthy democracy relies on the confidence of its citizens in the electoral system and right now, confidence is at an all time low.
You say that “confidence is at an all time low.”
But you don’t support that statement with any evidence.
In fact, actual evidence shows that your statement is patently untrue.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/404675/confidence-election-integrity-hides-deep-partisan-divide.aspx
It is true that the party that continues to spread misinformation about election integrity tends to harbor concerns about the system.
But those concerns are not shared amongst the majority of voters.
Facts are the best antidote to fear.
And the facts remain that there is no actual evidence of widespread fraud.
Welp, seems like my last reply isn’t coming out of mederation any time soon, so I’ll try again:
Elections are fair and secure. And easy access to mail-in and drop-off voting helps ensure that it is accessible for all eligible citizens.
Also, confidence in voting is not at an all time low.
And the peope who claim to have the least confidence in it are aso the people who keep spreading the misinformation about election security.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/10/31/views-of-election-administration-and-confidence-in-vote-counts/
Elections are fair … except that there electoral college/votes…that ain’t fair cuz I sed so in another comment somewhere on here.
One person, one vote would sure be nice.
That’s just silly.
Can someone please shoot Mendocino County and put it out of it’s misery? It would be a mercy killing.
Maybe taxidermy it and ship it back to L.A., where it mostly came from. With some nice parting gifts? Some wine, all the fentanyl, some lavender bunches, perhaps? Hate for them to all go back empty-handed…
“Registrar of Voters contacted Integrated Voting Systems and was informed that Integrated Voting Systems utilized a third-party vendor to assist them in the process and that the third-party vendor sent an incorrect data file to Integrated Voting Systems for printing and mailing. The third-party vendor was selected and hired by Integrated Voting Systems without involvement by the County.
The Mendocino Elections Office informed Integrated Voting Systems that the ballots were correct and ready to be printed and mailed. We are informed that the third-party vendor sent Integrated Voting Systems an incorrect data file for printing and mailing, after the ballot images were reviewed and approved by the Mendocino Elections Office.”
There’s something a bit circular about this chronicle of events. Exactly when and where was the approved data modified? Who actually did the printing, and why isn’t the third-party vendor identified?
Plausible deniability…
What a colossal embarrassment for an already remarkably inept county government. This die was cast a long time ago.
The vast majority of Mendocino County residents live in “mail-in precincts” going back at least ten years. Something about a shortage of polling places and poll workers, which I never really believed.
At least one hotly contested DA runoff resulted in many (including my) mail-in votes being nullified due to “unmatching signatures” (has your John Hancock changed since you registered to vote?) That one still smells kind of funny, but at least Faulder’s a judge now…
Election days should be holidays. Voters should be required to volunteer at polls every once in a while, like jury duty. Paper ballots should be the only legal tender, and hand-counted. Absentee ballots should be issued upon request, with no second/third parties printing/mailing/counting ballots whatsoever.
While I’m at it, how about passing a basic civics exam (like naturalized citizens do) before exercising your “civic duty?”
What a piece of red meat to the low information voter. You can tell by the comments!
Not the first time Integrated Voting Systems incorrectly printed ballots. See more at: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/16/company-linked-ballot/
Also notably, the company was formed in 2004. Let’s not forget that Presidential “election” …
“the late Michael Connell.. served as the IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove. Connell ran the private IT firm GovTech that created the controversial system that transferred Ohio’s vote count late on election night 2004 to a partisan Republican server site in Chattanooga, Tennessee owned by SmarTech. That is when the vote shift happened, not predicted by the exit polls, that led to Bush’s unexpected victory” – from https://truthout.org/articles/new-court-filing-reveals-how-the-2004-ohio-presidential-election-was-hacked/
Voting experts warn of ‘serious threats’ for 2024 from election equipment software breaches.
Oh they will quickly investigate it with the state if the Republicans are at fault but the last election cycle when the exact same shit happened with the Democrats nobody batted a fucking eye!!
Holy crap there is an insane amount of forum sliding going on in this comment section.
Kym, are you aware that there are groups (both sides of political spectrum) manipulating the speech and thoughts of people commenting in your political posts on your website?
This does not happen at all on any other one of your articles unless it’s political.
Are you noticing this? I can’t be the only one recognizing this pattern.
If its just commenters and its both sides than its just polcitcal nonsense arguments, if its a Moderator only censoring one side (lostcoastoutpost) than its manipulation
LOCO’s Mod definitely has an agenda especially when it comes to TDS.
LOCO sucks and bans all conservative speech.
Do you mean there are people from all sides putting out their opinions on the website? Yes…
Do I think that groups feel it worth their while to try and brainwash the stubborn folks who stick to their own side no matter what evidence is presented? I can’t imagine anyone feels that worth their while.
LOOK into my EYES! Looook Ricky. Look. 173685376467. See a pattern? That’s what I thought. Why’s the room seem so small? Cuz you’re Big Rick.
IF somebody sent me (a liberal Democrat) one of those ballots, I would quickly vote for Nikki Haley. I am not a Republican, and I disagree with many of her positions, and I would not vote for her in the final election, but I am impressed by her willingness to stand up to Trump, take his inane, childish insults with grace, and not give in to pressure to quit. She can’t win the nomination, but if she did, it’s quite possible she would win the election. And I would be glad to accept that, because it would mean that a majority of Republican conservatives have come to their senses and regained their values, their honor, and their commitment to the Constitution.
What part of Narccinarchy don’t you understand!? Freaking nutcase. How do you ever expect a woman to be a StrongMan anyway!? This is about dismantling Big Government, and replacing it with a little fruit stand of free enterprise! With religious curios.
Glad I moved out of that crazy county years ago. Everything I read about it now has improper some issue or another. Still, my summer cabin is there.
It’s funny because the county is so corrupt that people immediately think this was a corruption thing. But what they forget is that the county is also stupid and unprofessional. I think that’s how this happened. So yay!- it’s one thing that isn’t corruption!!It’s just regular idiocy and lack of attention….
You had one job, lol.
Let the lawsuits begin, teaches a good lesson and the payoff’s ×3.
Remember to vote early and to vote often.