The ‘Other Side of Murder Mountain’ to be Discussed at HSU
The Murder Mountain Workshop portrayal of the Emerald County Cannabis Culture has spurred a panel discussion at Humboldt State University by HSU’s Humboldt Institute for Interdisciplinary Marijuana Research (HIIMR) and co-hosted by the Humboldt County Growers Alliance.
The following is a press release from HIIMR:
Panel to Discuss Netflix Series ‘Murder Mountain’
HSU’s Humboldt Institute for Interdisciplinary Marijuana Research (HIIMR) and the Humboldt County Growers Alliance will host “The Other Side of Murder Mountain,” a panel discussion on Wednesday, Feb. 27 from 5 to 7 p.m. in the Kate Buchanan Room. Part of HSU’s annual Social Justice Summit, the panel will explore the consequences of media coverage of Humboldt County’s cannabis industry.
The Netflix series “Murder Mountain” was released in late 2018, presenting what some suggest is a distorted representation of Humboldt County.
Focusing on a geographic area in a remote corner of Humboldt County, a two-hour drive from HSU and representing a fraction of Humboldt County’s population, the filmmakers describe “a wild, lawless place” where “vigilante justice and outlaw culture … resembles America’s Wild West past.”
The purpose of this panel, is to critically examine representations of culture, place, and the cannabis industry in Humboldt County.
“For those watching the Netflix series, Murder Mountain is being equated with all of Humboldt County, and that has important policy implications,” says Josh Meisel, co-director of HIIMR. “For example, the new governor is now calling for sending National Guard troops to Humboldt County to fight cartel-controlled cannabis grows, despite questions about the relative influence of cartels in Humboldt County.”
The panel will be hosted by Dominic Corva, founder and executive director of the Cannabis and Social Policy Center, a nonprofit organization dedicated to learning lessons about and from emergent landscapes of cannabis legalization. Corva is also an affiliate researcher for the HIIMR.
Panelists include:
Deidre Pike, chair of HSU’s Department of Journalism & Mass Communication
Terra Carver, executive director of the Humboldt County Growers Alliance
Hank Sims, editor of the Lost Coast Outpost
Eugene “ED” Denson, is a criminal defense attorney and lawyer for HUMMAPFor more information: Contact Dr. Josh Meisel, HIIMR Co-Director: [email protected]
HSU is an AA/EO institution. Persons who wish to request disability related accommodations should contact the
event organizer at 826.3364 ([email protected]), as soon as possible.
The Other Side of Murder Mountain poster
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?Thank you Kelley for that info.
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES. When netshits was on the hill they said they are trying to help us. I think they should have stuck to a story. Not run around talking about murder and weed, when it’s murder and speed. Cannabis industry had nothing to do with the tweeked out murders
Neither Rodriguez nor Lenig would have been here without the cannabis industry.
That’s neither here nor there.
Denial of the truth does not change it. Rodriguez was (allegedly) killed because Lenig didn’t want to pay him his share of the weed profits.
Exactly. I lived on Rancho and worked in the industry a decade. Murder mountain was on point and people the dont agree have only seen a sheltered version of the industry. I worked with zero tweakers and still saw an industry full of sexism, greed and people with God complexes and click mentality. So Hum is full of the most self absorbed people and it no surprise they are so self absorbed they can’t see the flaws in the industry that their own shitty personalities created. Lots of holier than though hippies that lack the awareness it takes to be decent humans, always pointing the finger instead if realizing they raised a bunch of spoiled brats and created a greedy, cut throught county full of irresponsible lazy people. Now I have to listen to people who who used to go to Costa Rica every winter instead of investing in a savings account or their own kids schools, and now they’re complaining about how they can’t afford to become legal. Most businesses have to deal with those kind of expenses just to start and these people are so spoiled they had the ability to start with much less expenses and be able to save up for whenever legalization came around and they didnt and they are sitting there crying about how they’re losing their properties, not taking one ounce of responsibility for the fact they never saved. Pathetic, take responsibility for your poor choices. it’s really sad to see an entire county that claims to be proud Farmers but very few of them are willing to live off of an actual Farmers wage, which isn’t ballin out buying a new tundra every year and going on fancy vacations and blowing all your money on festivals and concerts and getting drunk every night. County full of whiny spoiled egotist. I’m one of many people that Jason Dookie ripped off and he may be a transplant but I know many second and third generation people that are just as awful and souless as him
Never trust a grown man who wears jeans with bedazzled back pockets. J Dookie is a joke. He did pick a fitting alias though.
Why I love Kym’s site? This right here.^
Sounds like you couldn’t make it in the industry.
Not making it in a vicious criminal enterprise might be a reflection of being a decent human being.
Dookie was in Briceland, not Rancho, remember?
Dookie had a place in Rancho.
Good to see someone call it like they see it…..and be right!
Its exactly the way it was portrayed and the cops are a joke too. Who calls the cops? This is exactly what greed looks like. I interfaced with people coming to our community to work and I basically told them how to stay alive in the hills. CHILL= Community Help in Living Locally
How do you know “exactly” how it was? You don’t live anywhere near Rancho.
Original J.. unfortunately, I am inclined to agree with you to a certain extent. But actually I also have to say.. I have also meet some of the most selfless, awesome and good people working throughout the Triangle, and in So hum. People who have made real change in the world. People who have done amazingly good things.. I will also say that, I have actually meet some of the worst… But, you get that with any group of people. I will say that most of the people I have meet that are awesome, are mostly the old-timers, both the Old Hippies and earlier generations.. Many of them are awesome, and the community has lost many of them.. Some of the 2nd generation seems to get it.. However, no one can choose the path of thier children.. .
But.. with all this restructuring, chaos, confusion, change, I seriously hope people will do some serious soul searching and ask themselves.. what kind of future do we want to create? Often change is a nemisous for looking within, seeing the greater picture and taking action. The struggle continues.. and now.. it’s not just a question of cannabis legalization, it’s thrust The triangle out of the bubble and into the bigger troubles of the real word.. mega corporate power, income inequality, corrupt politricks. But…
We can prove that small farming can be successful.. we can.
We can prove that we can live sustainability and in harmony with our surroundings.. and the natural environment.
We can prove that not everyone has to live in a concrete jungle..
We can prove that we as a Community are good people, who can be productive, and luv our families…
Seriously, if we can dream it.. we can build it.
It will take dollars.. but. Really, what it’s going to take is Heart, courage, and hard work, a willingness to learn new things, a willingness to help each other..
We can prove that we can operate successfully in this new world.
It is not a future.. “they” are going to allow us to have.. Its a future we are going to have to fight for..
Exactly, Small Fry.
Thanks for this.
The Whiskey Rebellion
https://www.thedailybell.com/all-articles/news-analysis/the-whiskey-rebellion-how-brand-new-america-tore-up-the-bill-of-rights/
Let us not forget to mention the NONE of these asshole EVER PAID TAXES AND WERE ON SOCIAL SECURITY OR
WELFARE THE WHOLE DECADES. OF 215s. And they almost never shop local preferring instead to SPEND MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL INCOME ELSEWHERE… NO SCHOOL/ROAD TAXES paid NO Charity Donations to local agencies, NO CHILD SUPPORT PAID. NO DOCORS BILL PAID- WE THE WORKING STIFF PAID FOR ALL HIS BENEFITS. Yet he tears up the road in a grow dozed to hit 101 south to spend thousands of dollars on new grow lights designer clothes electronics guns and atvs only to return drunk or huffing nitrous to total out his dozed ( possibly injuring or killing a working family member) and have us pay his medical bills and value and repair costs.
I was once a grower and a broker but at least i paid taxes filing as a migrant farm worker…so that my community would not suffer from my deeds.
Some people are capable of murder. Some of those people grow pot. Unfortunately Rodriguez was hanging around someone capable of murder. Did he deserve to die? Absolutely not.
The point is the amount of violence compared to the general population. Is the risk 2, 3, 4 or more times greater of murder in that industry than more traditional work? If so, there there is a problem.
Seriously, how many workers and growers have come and gone with no problems, especially during the greenrush? Not to minimize a persons death, but what percentage of people growing and working in the industry were murderers? One one hundredth of one percent?
Glaring,
You’re right about that. I have always been surprised how little violence I’ve encountered here. I think it may be that bad things are way less likely to happen to those who take preemptive measures. Bad things can happen to anyone but the naive are easy meat and so are often victimized.
That makes it right- kill first lest you be killed. No wonder that such a widely spaced group of humanity can still achieve ghetto like violence.
The glaring ignorance- how many haven’t? https://krcrtv.com/north-coast-news/eureka-local-news/humboldt-missing-person-list-for-2018-reaches-36-higher-than-nearby-counties
No one would be here if it wasn’t for the cannabis industry possibly even yourself. One idiot like Lenig and all the people in the cannabis industry get looked at like criminals . Crystal meth could be blamed in this single situation more and a lot of the violence that gets blamed on the cannabis industry.
And Garrett would probably still be alive if he didn’t go to Alder point to become a criminal, he’s wasn’t up there doing legal cannabis activity he was do black market criminal shit! Play with fire you get burnt everybody is making Garrett seem so innocent but he wasn’t ?♂️
EXACTLY !!! These murders were more about dysfunctional murderous people that happen to grow weed.
What do you expect from a production crew that’s never lived here ? To say that they took poetic license is an understatement. They cobbled together a bunch of different story lines, created some beautiful cinematic footage as a backdrop, hired some homeless actors, interviewed some locals, looked at some missing people cases and came to conclusions that leave most of us locals scratching our heads and having to answer to our families why we live here.
If if you were left scratching your head after watching that then you must clearly not be reading Kym Kemp site very often and only talk to a small group of people Pay attention, there are huge issues in your county and ignoring them doesn’t help.
Lived in AP over 40 years. Where do you live?
You are assuming everything in the “documentary ” was true. You are assuming everything you’ve read is true. You obviously aren’t from here.
It’s an accurate portrayal of many blown out grow areas of the counties:
Clearlake
Covello
Ap
Blocksburgh
Weitchapec
Trinity pines
Ketompom
To mention a few.
The bad actors are still a tiny minority of the growers in the emerald triangle.
Read this article the other day about how Gavin newsom is furious that California only made 345 million this year instead of the billion dollars that was projected on legal weed.no wonder the propaganda and lies are being pumped,the industry is being RIPPED OFF from the people by the state! !!!!!! Now he’s so greedy he’s resorting to turning a branch of the armed forces on northern California the area that’s relied and who started The industry! !!! $$$$$$$$$$$!
How Republican of you to object to the government looking to farm those who have money just because they have it.
The middle class is over burdened with tax because the republican protects the truly wealthy to from paying their share.
~local authority in municipal affairs remain subject to State pre-emption as to matters of Statewide concern. The distinction between “municipal affairs” and matters of “Statewide concern” have been the essential questions in the shifting boundary line limiting the scope of home rule.
I think its really funny how hes complaining while only 1/3 of the state even allows cannabis businesses. He still made over 1/3 of what he projected for that 1/3. Looks like hes doing good and just being a crybaby to me.
How is this a social justice issue… a panel discussion on discrimination, sexism, sexual harassment & zero diversity in the local cannabis industry would be appropriate for the social justice summit. A bunch of growers worried about their reputation & profits from a documentary… zero sympathy.
It is one of the most diverse multi-cultured industries on this planet. I know many women who are cultivators, manufactures, distributors and dispensary owners. Sexual harassment yes that I agree is a huge issue. The rest of your ill informed finger spewing is just bullshit and you obviously don’t know what the hell you are typing about.
Wrong! There’s been testimony and hearing in Congress, many studies done by professionals and there is a huge lack of diversity in the cannabis industry. Your denial is uneducated, look it up. A few white women in the mix of white men is not diversity
I am out in these hills my statement is fact. My ex is one of the largest land owners and doubt she would ever stand before Congress, your a liar. One of the first manufacturing and distribution sites in Garberville is all female owned. If anything you might have a male named to protect his wife or significant other from prosecution but they are not the grower or the one who actually runs the operation. Yes it can and should be more diversified but to blindly make statements and to never set foot on the ground is typical for you keyboard commandos.
Nope. You can be in denial about basic facts and statistics in every legal State… doesn’t change the truth. A few women does not equate to diversity nor negate the plethora of social justice issues in the industry which is definitely not the most diverse industry. Sorry but not sorry you’re having mental issues about basic facts. Try doing some research about demographics instead of an emotional ego trip. Interesting that’s the only point you attach to considering the list of typical social justice summit topics. I guess that ignorance isn’t so bliss for ya.
Again I am all for more diversity but you do not know shit. Statistics by a federal entity of a federally illegal product is sure to be accurate. Yes, why would anyone believe what I know, see and have contracted partnerships with over the past few years. Down in Garberville tonight there is a meeting you should go see for yourself and count. Go to the one up north they have at the riverlodge and count. You do not have to believe me just get off your ass and see for yourself. Then come tell me what you saw. It will blow your statistical mind.
I thought the documentary was accurate. What I took away is that if you think your gonna come up here and get rich quick in the weed game, it ain’t that simple. And it ain’t. There’s lots of lawlessness and bad shit can happen. And it does. There’s lots of real estate to be “policed” so you’re pretty much on own your own out in the mountains. And you are. The police are incompetent and don’t give a shit. They are and they don’t.
We the people are paying cops massive amounts of overtime to cut down pot plants. Our limited resources are going to this every day, all summer. As a result, other more serious crimes are flourishing. Humboldt is a dangerous place.
I thought the history of hippies coming up here to get away from it all, and the evolution (or devolution) of how the weed game got to where it is was interesting too. Fucking hippies building houses naked. LOL, too funny!
Lol. Choosing to enjoy the freedom of risky behavior then complaining about no official being there to prevent when the inevitable catches up.
BTW some of We the People pay while some don’t. And the Don’ts seem to be the loudest.
You miss the point by a mile. ‘Rollin’ is just pointing out the sky is blue.
As for this rhetoric about acting illegally then complaining about no police assistance…. it leaves out a giant element.
Pot should never have been illegal. It was never dangerous. It always had benefits that were being withheld from us. The people who knew thst and “persisted nevertheless” were harmed in real ways.
Wheres the thanks for that? The state made a third of a billion dollars this first year in taxes. Maybe a quarter of that should come straight back o the emerald triangle!
People who call pot growers criminals belong in a museum.
Pot growers are outlaws but they showed the way. Kids are getting help with epilepsy and brain tumors. Elders are getting help with Alzheimer’s.
People who grew up raised by nam vets got doubly isolated because this plant was needlessly prohibited for the sheer purpose of social control. Lots and lots of dynamics.
Blaming it all on speed, blaming Netflix for lying, upset about “Murder Mountain”?
I say, remember what happens when you mess with the “Great Magnet”, and when you generate a lot of bad Karma!
The stuff that Netflix reported, was not made up. It was, spruced to be commercial, but it wasn’t really very far off the truth, if we are talking about how crazy things are in Humboldt County…
It is true that drugs and weed created a poor situation, but the folks featured in this video, they accurately reflected reality in SoHum and in Humboldt, in general.
There are worse areas, such as Willow Creek, Hoopa, Weitchpec and Orleans, but the easiest and most accessible mess is in Alderpoint and East of AP. It was just the easiest story to tell!
Garberville is a great example of what needs to be cleaned up, and, if you don’t like the focus on the area, do something to change it!
Easier said, than done!
I predict that there will not be an increase in tourism, or the general opinion of the public.
You built it! Enjoy!
Billy (Trillium, etc.) is that you?
A documentary about the most methamphetamine addicted neighborhood in all of northern California! !! Lol. Of course there’s craziness that’s what meth does– temporary insanity and if you do it for too long makes it permanent! !!! Not weed. METH
I just think its a shame that they r taking away peoples livliehoods….its really not fair to them
So not effective! Having a discussion in Arcata and not out in the area where all of this negativity was created is like outsiders doing a documentary of our area. Can we get locals to do a “Rancho” documentary and get the supposedly locals in Arcata to get off their asses and hold their discussion in the area of concern, ffs!!!
Growers brought it to HSU but, I agree… HSU Multi-cultural centers event is inappropriate for this but, it’s not that far of a drive if it’s so important to you. You seem to have some mental issues and an odd misplaced aggression & anger towards Arcata. Hope they have some Psychologists in the room for all you crazies.
I did not and nor did any of my growing neighbors bring anything to HSU. We all have mental issues such as you thinking you can make judgement of my mental stability from a blog. Yes, having a discussion at a multi-cultural center in Arcata when your community still has not addressed it own failures regarding a young man getting stabbed and dying in your streets is a bunch of crap! The Arcata community needs the psychologist way more than I but guess it makes you all feel better dealing with our issues 2 and half hours away.
~i wanna be where you are lettuce. Your place has sunshine. I’m under a wet drippy canopy. Resume: grew in the mid 60’s thru mid 80s -off and on (ended w/a gun scene of course). Indica and Sativa from seed, started indoors on top of the water heater. Planted outside on a south facing hill-top, in compost -i had goats, chickens (and bees.) Little fish emulsion too and they were off and thriving. I remember Bat Guano in there somewhere. Soil covered w/alfalfa. Well water. Check for males daily. September samples and some gentle harvest. Whole plant hung upside down in a dark room, w/correct humidity. Cure. Hand trim -i don’t do “nugs”, but rather collius (sp?). Never had an insect problem. The plants had their built-in defense -they were healthy.
Oh, and the ladies listened to rock-n-roll most summer days.
Only a few seem to realize that if you do not contract with them, none of their “laws” apply to you. NO MATTER WHAT THEY WRITE OR SAY to you. Rescind the existing application/contracts you have been drawn into by deception and be done with them.
The ‘Legal’ part is fiction and will not last much longer. Unlike the re-presentatives’ Oath of Office –Not recorded into the Public Record, i recorded into the Public Record a good-to-go Notice/Fee Schedule.
“No occupation is so delightful to me as the culture of the earth, no culture comparable to that of the garden.” “Those who labor in earth are the chosen people of God.” Jefferson
This is an Offer to contract – NOT in commerce. (Contract is a meeting of the minds and performance -just sayin). Add to, or subtract from, (you can subtract me out of it -it’s more about the Notice/Fee Schedule), or just say ‘yay’ or ‘nay’ -works.
The goal is less important than the process . . . that’s where the magic is.
The best to you and yours in 2019.
Throw some sea kelp in as one of your amendments it will tighten up them buds. I am pretty fortunate indeed but I worked hard as so many others. Why I do not like the bashing from people with no knowledge. Stay focused HumCo and live your dream and remember words can never accomplish anything only desire and hard work, blessings to you.
~how much do i love Humboldt
<3
Entropic epath is this about your little man who got violated in garberville personal insecurities again. It’s just a town wher people live,freinds meet and be freinds,people go to shop and get the things they need.it’s true we have attracted alot of crazys because we’ve had big hearts in the past and tried to do the rite thing by people in need.we’ve tried to feed The hungry,we’ve collected blankets and jackets for them and so they’ve magnetized to the area.for The people that were shown no kindness our compassion anywhere else word got around.this is our downfall in your judgemental,hateful, angry,little man complex mind
That’s a lot of rose colored glass viewing there. People dying and disappearing did not happen only recently. With a far smaller population, there were such murders going on in the 1970s.
People die and go missing all over the United States. Even in the 1970s !!! Even in affluent communities not plagued by growers!! Imagine that!!
There’s missing people and there’s missing people. There are people who disappear while in imminent peril or who have no reason to have abandoned their normal lives. Or contrarily do have a reason to disappear. There are usually people, friends and family, who know some of what happened or will point to evidence. Determining death in missing body cases is complicated but doable. Then there is Humboldt Co where a fisherman lost at sea or a person seen downing in a river might be like the ones out east but many are cases where the person is “rumored” to have been working at a grow, involved in a fight or the target of vengeance. But no one will say anything on record or lead authorities to evidence because their own lives are pretty questionable or they are involved small enough closed group who know how they themselves will be targeted if they say anything. The people here come and go without close friends or family involved in their lives. They have no real routine and just disappear without a trace and there is no way to know if they were ever anyplace to investigate. There will be lots of rumors but no one will say anything for sure.
This doesnt excuse hcso behavior this time.
The neighborhood found the perp and the body.
Hcso could have asked the perp who what when where, and most importantly, why.
But instead they stuck to their perception that rancho and anyone who goes to rancho is nobodies.
The new guvner is about to reward them, and us, with 300,000 troops.
The neighborhood KNEW the perp and shot him in the leg to get out of him what happened. Was HSCO supposed to use the same tactics? The body wasn’t even in Rancho, it was 10 miles away down Jewett Rd. I guess if HCSO was clairvoyant they could have looked 10 miles away from the crime scene for the body. ?
Read it again. I’ll make short sentences with little words this time:
The neighborhood found the perp. Then they found the body. Then the hcso did nothing. They should have hauled the perp in for questioning. Bleeding or not bleeding. He killed a man. Why.
Now Honsall is crying because the governor wants to step in. We are all going to cry when that starts.
On the kmud last night, a girl from eureka high asked about the troops.
Wood said, well these legal rules are so hard to follow the legal growers want the black market shut down.
Feels like deja vu. I guess it would be too common sense to make make the rules easy to follow so everyone would follow and become legal.
Can please please please give the initials of who did it?
I know it’s not QL
Bullseye! Multiple personalities but they’re all the same.
OUR National Forest And OUR Wilderness are full of active cartels! It sickens me they are so many of them that are passed up and if busted never properly cleaned up! We do need a push for the illegal grows to be removed off PUBLIC property as a #1!!
Honsel stated just last summer that the trespass grows in this county were down 90%% due to the price being down,that cartels had shifted there enterprises to heroin and meth because it was actually still lucrative
Yeah it was blown up for cinematic pleasure, but shit like that does happen. I wish they would have emphasised METH mountain, but more importantly, HOW ABSOLUTELY AMAZING HUMCO REALLY IS. It’s one of the most beautiful places in the world, and filled with some of the most beautiful and amazing people, people one can’t find anywhere. Shit, I’m a 5’5 thin girl, and I have slept in random parks all over without any BS, and have adventured all over without bs, I just keep it real with people. My brother is a transient by choice, and has been there non stop, for almost ten years. HumCo will always be a part of my heart. PS has anyone seen Alexander Ferrand?? If so, please let me know, or tell him to get a hold of Ashlynn. Xoxo
Thanks for this shlynnie. Luck is unpredictable but it’s mostly good.
Y’all can thank Joe Fasho. The owner of The Humboldt Cure. Dude facilitated and assisted the Hollywood directors in Alderpoint. He thought it was the best thing that could happen to his business and his little corner of the county. Greed clouded dudes judgment with the hopes for national brand recognition without a thought for the larger picture he might be painting of the whole county. But hey….what do you expect from uneducated ego centered country bumpkins.
You gotta give some credit to NCJ for the in-depth article of the missing people. I heard one of the missing was on a recent TV show, lol, classic.
Murder mountain was pretty accurate. They should have covered some more of the meth plague. The dude knew what he was getting into, didn’t deserve to die, but that’s what happens when you play the game.
I didn’t particularity enjoy the Humboldt culture but I can understand how some do. I was not fond of the hippy snobs in Arcata and Eureka was the definition of sketchy. There are some good folks around the county, just rarer in the population centers.
If y’all are mad about Newsome possibly sending troops there I can only laugh because most of you probably voted for him. Remove the cartel, things might get better.
The scene where Jason Dookie flat out refused to pay people who worked for him is just blatant labor violation of the most basic kind. If he was unhappy with their work at any time he should have let them go. In the end of the day it’s his responsibility they didn’t meet his expectations. If that is how this biz has been working on the black market that really is the saddest part of this story- labor exploitation. From sexual abuse and virtual slavery, I don’t care what story these people tell about their virtuousness, they are the worst kind of capitalists labor has been struggling to defeat since feudalism and slavery. Fuck Jason Dookie and all those that exploited labor.
Jason Dookie. What a