In the Fog About Our Weather This Summer? Here’s a Misty-cal Explanation From the National Weather Service

castle in valley fog

[Photo by Kym Kemp]

By Guest Author: Susan Nolan

Does it seem to you like it’s been warmer and less foggy than usual on the coast this summer? If so, you are correct, according to Matthew Kidwell from the National Weather Service station on Woodley Island in Humboldt Bay, and he has the data to prove it.

Kidwell gestured at a graph on his computer screen. “Yes, there has been less fog and that’s what a lot of this data is,” he explained. “This is the McKinleyville airport and we’re looking at low clouds, which is clouds with a height below 1000’.”

He noted, “We obviously don’t have September’s data yet, but here’s what this year has been so far. We’ve been at 32% coverage of these low clouds. Historically you can see there’s been a few times where it’s been down around 30% for the whole summer. So it’s unusual, but not unheard of. And so then, looking at the past five years, just June through August, a lot of them were around 50% of the time, and this year it’s at 37%. So, significantly less than normal.”

Naturally, less fog means more sun. “And that’s of course brought the warm temperatures,” Kidwell said. “So for the whole summer, June through August, we’re the 6th warmest since 1897. But, 2015 was the second warmest, and ’97 was another really warm year, so we’ve had some warm years lately. Especially in August: all the top five warmest Augusts have been since 1983, and this year was the warmest August….[I]t’s been warm and sunny.”

However, he told us that more than sunshine has contributed to our warmer summer. “You probably also noticed the northerly winds haven’t been as strong. It’s been really nice and pleasant,” Kidwell continued. “The northerly winds are caused by an area of high pressure that typically sets up over the west part of the country, over the coast. It’s high pressure aloft, the northeastern Pacific high. It usually keeps all of the weather systems well to the north. It creates the hot temperatures inland, and the cooler temperatures at the coast and the northerly winds.”

Kidwell noted, “You get this air current flowing down the coast, from north to south, and then due to the Coriolis effect in the hemisphere, it curves to the right, and away from the coast.”

This drives surface ocean water west. “When the water’s flowing away, it’s gotta get refilled from somewhere, so it comes up from deeper in the ocean,” Kidwell explained. “That brings the much cooler water temperatures which keep the air temperatures cooler and can help increase the fog. So they’re all kind of tied together.”

Water and warmth graph

Coastal upwelling graphic [Image from NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center website, Powered by ASIS]

He added, “The main thing that causes the fog here is, you’ve got the really cool ocean temperatures and really warm air above, that creates this kind of inversion that puts a cap and traps the cool moist air at low levels. So it’s a combination of the hot air aloft and cool moist air below.”

A number of weather systems moved through the area this summer. Kidwell explained, “They’re just enough to disrupt things. There was one, the 9th and 10th of August, that was enough to bring some thunderstorms to the interior. I think we got a tenth of an inch of rain. That was about the strongest one. It doesn’t take much —they might just go by and all you could see is a few passing high clouds, and then it would clear out at the coast.”

He said, “I’m really just treating fog and low clouds as one single thing. That layer of clouds may be 500 feet thick, and the clouds are all going to be right under the inversion layer…When the inversion is up at 2000 feet, you get low clouds, but if the inversion is down at 500 feet, then the clouds are going to be right at the surface of the earth, and you’re in the fog. So when the marine layer is shallower you’re more likely to have fog versus clouds.”

Kidwell mentioned a study that looked at how fog has been declining in the redwood region since the early 20th century. “Johnstone and Dawson did this chart, and they had data from Monterey too. They did data through 2008, so at that time, they’re like, oh my gosh, the fog is definitely declining, the redwoods are in trouble. That’s what the research paper was on. But then we had this spike in fog, and we thought oh, maybe it’s not declining as much as they thought. And now it’s trending back down.”

You can check out this study on redwoods and changing fog frequency at https://www.pnas.org/content/107/10/4533.short

“There’s also other things going on,” Kidwell explained. “There’s a Pacific decadal oscillation that can change the temperatures of the water too. That is what caused a big shift in the late 70’s. And then it switched back in the early 2000’s. It’s on the span of decades. It’s really tricky to look at something that lasts for 30 years, when you only have 100 years of data.”

Is this part of a long-term trend of declining fog? Kidwell can’t say.

“It’s so hard to know when you see changes like this, whether they’re a trend or a blip,” he pointed out. “When you’re in the moment, it’s hard to see changes. And then it takes like a master’s thesis study, or a PhD study, to figure it out. That’s usually done at a university. [And] we’re mostly focused on the day to day forecasting, and then sometimes helping to put things in perspective. People ask, ‘oh, my gosh, it’s been so sunny this summer, has this ever happened before?’ And I can go back and say, well actually 1997 was kind of similar, really sunny. And yeah, August seems pretty anomalous with the temperatures, but again, we’re tied with 1983 for the warmest. So, it has happened before.”

Curious about local weather and climate? Check out the Woodley Island weather station’s newsletter at https://www.weather.gov/eka/NewsletterArchive It comes out quarterly, with reviews of recent weather events, predictions for the coming season, water year records, astronomy with tips on planetary movements, meteor showers and other interesting weather news.

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Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
6 years ago

Thanks for that.

Kidwell explained. “… It’s really tricky to look at something that lasts for 30 years, when you only have 100 years of data.”

That little tidbit is applicable to many assumptions.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
6 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Especially all the assumptions that people have adopted as facts lately, and that govt. uses to make ridiculous regulations. I can show you dozens of theses that are based upon incomplete or erroneous facts that have been used as the basis for misguided policy.

tech
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tech
6 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Predicting the 100-year storm event and associated flows in any watershed of interest is ALL based on assumptions and interpolation with a margin of error of ~44-45%.

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
6 years ago
Reply to  tech

In the Western Pacific Ocean Water right now the temperatures are higher than usual all the way up into Alaska. Which is causing a effect that last time they called The Blob. It caused a high-pressure Zone called the resilient Ridge across most of Northern California Oregon and Washington. And kept most of the Northwest dry and warmer than usual this warm water ocean event has been causing tropical fish to come into areas that they rarely go into all the way up into Alaska a mahi-mahi was recently caught off of the coast in Shelter Cove and recently the albacore have come within 5 miles of the shore. I believe it is because the unusual warm water in the ocean is causing them to come closer too shore then usual seeking the cold water that is their comfort zone. Buckle up and get ready for some severe weather changes across the globe. The weather can govern our actions regardless what governments do and scientists say.

Mike
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Mike
6 years ago

He did a great job of explaining the situation without jumping on any bandwagons. But my prediction is the commenters will not be quite so rational or reserved. It’ll be something like “ if they don’t quit logging the old growth on rainbow ridge every human in the world will be extinct in 10 years due to the ocean rising 6 inches”

Anotherop
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Anotherop
6 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Do you read what you write?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
6 years ago
Reply to  Anotherop

Any nonsense will do as long as he thinks he’s really sticking it to the “Liberals”. Sadly it sounds like a desperate rally comment by Trump.

lol
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lol
6 years ago
Reply to  Mike

“without jumping on any bandwagons”? If you are assuming that an NWS climatologist does not think that global climate change is human caused, you are making a very silly assumption. He cites three reference in his paper on this topic that are directly on the subject of anthropocentric climate change.

You have a talent for strawmanning.

THoGM
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THoGM
6 years ago
Reply to  lol

Anthropocentric is not the same thing as anthropogenic, dont’cha know? And IMO the most pressing problem is water pollution. With 90% of the world’s plastic waste and other trash entering the oceans from 5 rivers (3 in Africa, 2 in Asia), we are liable to kill all ocean life entirely before sea levels rise 3 inches.

THoGM
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THoGM
6 years ago
Reply to  THoGM

Replying to my own post to add that I just reminded myself of the scene from Firefly when River reassures Shepherd Book that they won’t die of asphyxiation.

“We’ll freeze to death, first!”

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
6 years ago
Reply to  lol

Well we have been coming out of the ice age for 12000 years now but in my seventy years living here the climate has stayed basically the same. Occassionally we have a warmer summer but i also remember a summer where the sun didnt shine in eureka one single day. That was 1969.

Guest
Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  lol

Yet you were compelled to prove Mike right because all he said was “But my prediction is the commenters will not be quite so rational or reserved. ” and here you appeared to assume he meant what he never said and then criticize what was only your assumption.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago

Interesting, I would say here in Trinity it’s been the mildest summer in a decade.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
6 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Agreed. The mildest summer in at least 20 years. My experience is that the warmer inland temperatures suck the marine layer in and produces a foggier coast, but it appears the mechanism is a little different than I assumed although directly influenced by both phenomenon.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Ullr, any predictions for snow levels this year?

Low, avg, or high?

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
6 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I’m rooting for another winter like last, but I leave predictions to my weather stone.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I hope the same for snow, hopefully a little more earlier in winter this year…. and few things can out-do that forecast stone chart. Hilarious!

guest
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guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Okay, now. That’s really cute!

tech
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tech
6 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Farmers Almanac is calling for a very cold and wet winter. This makes sense as the climatologist mentioned that we’ve had milder off-shore northerly winds this year because the normal high-pressure ridge (aka the ridiculously resilient ridge) off the coast hasn’t been hanging around per usual like during the drought. Whenever this high-pressure zone breaks or isn’t around it means the rains and snow are going to going to come strong this winter. The absence of this high-pressure zone allows the jet stream to drop down from up north to into California. I regret not getting my season pass sale deal to Tahoe this winter already…

Duh
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Duh
6 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Yes, we should definitely let the McKinleyville/Arcata/HC Airport speak to the weather of the entire triangle….. For that matter the greater Northern California!

Central HumCo
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6 years ago
Reply to  Duh

XO

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Duh

I think your being sarcastic, but no – that’s not the conclusion I would have put forward.

Central HumCo
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6 years ago

Nice photo, Kym.

Good news
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Good news
6 years ago

THE SKY IS CLEARING, WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!

We’ve all been warned over and over again that we only have 12 years before the end of the world (oh wait, I think it’s 11 now). And it must be true, since every single one of the Democratic candidates for President and most of the Democrats in Congress have signed on to the “Green New Deal”, which is the only thing that will save us from the end. Run!!!

Don’t question anything, just obey. The fate of the world is at stake.

Miguel
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Miguel
6 years ago

Spectacular photo Kym!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
6 years ago

Great headline ?

Claudia Johnson
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Claudia Johnson
6 years ago

It has been a much warmer summer here and the Inland has not been near as hot as it usually is cuz I’ve lived on the coast and in the Redding I remember temperatures in the 80s 110 hundred 15 in the summertime usually July and August this year not like that much cooler

Willie Caos-mayham
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6 years ago

??Good morning Kym and thank you for putting out Matt’s information, its very informative for the area.

Doggo
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Doggo
6 years ago

The summer fog belt is what makes our redwood forests thrive. The changing climate is going to change many things.

tech
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tech
6 years ago
Reply to  Doggo

Redwoods used to exist across the entire North American continent. Now they are only found along the PNW coast. This change in their range and the climate was all-natural. What makes you think that this trend isn’t going to continue?

Central HumCo
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6 years ago
Reply to  tech

“This change in their range and the climate was all-natural.”

R.U. Serious?

~how about deforestation? The graveyard of the dead at the bottom of the hill on 36, below Hydesville, is something to behold. And, It’s ONLY ONE of the many graveyards.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
6 years ago

Misty Mountain Hop… Zeppelin pretty much explains it all..
“I really don’t know…” lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K7muZ9nleI

But interesting info regardless..

Geoffrey davis
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Geoffrey davis
6 years ago

Considering that only 5% of the original old growth redwood forest is intact…. i was told, by a 90 year old women,….there was always snow enough on Grizzley mt in Trinity Co, above Zenia, to get a wagon load on the 4th ofJuly… up until Mid 1950s…. she was sure it was because of the cutting of the redwoods, I 100% agree.

The Hermit of Grizzly Mountain
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The Hermit of Grizzly Mountain
6 years ago
Reply to  Geoffrey davis

Explains why I haven’t gotten a good winter hibernation in all that time!

Silverlining
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Silverlining
6 years ago

I read a recent study says large redwoods are growing faster with less fog and more sun which runs against the belief that fog makes them grow better.

Mr. Bear
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Mr. Bear
6 years ago
Reply to  Silverlining

I think they only need the fog to get through the dry summers in drier areas. They can get quite a bit of moisture from it dripping down from the branches. If they are in moist ground I would assume they would thrive in direct sun

DivideByZero
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DivideByZero
6 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

I believe they intake most of their moisture through the bark.

Central HumCo
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6 years ago

This is from the Chief of an indigenous Brazilian Kayapo people.

We the People of the Amazon are Full of Fear. Soon, You Will Be Too.

You destroy our lands, poison the planet to death, because you are lost. Soon it will be too late to change.

For many years we the indigenous have been warning you, our brothers, who have brought so much damage to our forests. What you are doing will destroy our whole world, and it will destroy your homes too. Only a generation ago many of our tribes were fighting each other, but now we are together, fighting together, against a common enemy. And that common enemy is you. The non-indigenous who have invaded our lands and are now burning those small parts of the forest where we live, what you have left for us.

President Bolsonaro, of Brazil, is encouraging the farm owners near our lands, to clear the forest. Not doing anything to prevent them from invading our territory.

We call on you to stop what you’re doing. Stop the destruction. Stop your attack on the spirits of the Earth. When you cut down the trees you assault the spirits of our ancestors. When you dig for minerals you pale the heart of the Earth. When you pour poisons on the land and rivers, chemicals, mercury from gold mines, you weaken the spirit of the plants and the animals and the land itself. When you weaken the land like that, it dies. If the land dies then none of us will be able to live, and we too will all die.

The Amazon Chief continues by asking; Why do you do this? You say it is for development, but what kind of development takes away the richness of the forest and replaces it with just one kind of plant or one kind of animal? Where the spirits once gave us everything we needed for a happy life – all of our food, our houses, our medicines – now there is only soybeans or cattle. Who is the development for?

Only a few people live on the farmlands. It does not support many people. And they are barren.

He continues, So, again, why do you do this? We can see it is so that some of you can get a great deal of money. In Kayapo language, we call that “sad leaves”, because it is a dead lifeless thing and brings only harm and sadness.

You have to change the way you live. You are lost. You have lost your way. Where you are going is only the way of destruction. Death. To live you must respect the world –the trees, the plants, animals, the rivers, the very Earth itself. Because all of these things has spirit. All of these things are spirits. Without the spirits, the Earth will die. The rain will stop and the food plants will wither and also die.

We all breathe this one air. We all drink the same water. We live on this one planet. We must protect the Earth.

Geoengineering Watch Global News Alert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLwfFtDFZDpwtijqkJiOyc-WJOaGWOfVGG&time_continue=1&v=Sas3bpOfaio 54 mins. September 7, 2019

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Disclaimer:

The producer of geoengineering watch, Dane Wiggington, has included photoshopped pictures to bolster his case.

He also does not allow critiques of his work on his YouTube channel; you can only praise him.

He does not work, so his financial future depends on your subscriptions to his fear mongering, photoshopping works.

Bon appetit.

Redwood Dan
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Redwood Dan
6 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

All of those photos cant be photoshopped. I have many pics of SoHum skies covered in jet exhaust. Sometimes its just a grid, sometimes there are lots of hard turns and loops. I personally haven’t flown up to that altitude to collect samples and see what’s in the exhaust, so I cant say whether its just water vapor or a fog of aluminum and chemicals. Nor can I say whether or not they are there by way of malice or of circumstance. But either way, they fill our skies somedays and turn a clear blue day into a milky white haze. If you wath the skies 2-3 days before predicted rains, there is frequently heavy jet exhaust. Im not lying, its just what I’ve seen with my own eyes. I’ve been workin on a ridge top for the last 8 years, and look up alot.
I recently moved most of my pics to the computer, but here is one with a good zig zag.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
6 years ago
Reply to  Redwood Dan

If you have an Internet connection up there pull up Flightradar24 and see who’s flying. You’ll see the pattern…. mostly by the ones who don’t show up on the tracking software.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Redwood Dan

https://www.metabunk.org/photoshopped-chemtrail-images-on-geoengineeringwatch-org.t6658/

I will start with this for you.

But Dane has a lot more up his sleeves for tricks.

He’s a charlatan.

Yes, everyone has seen lines in the sky. I’m not doubting you’ve seen them too. I’m only talking about Dane, Danes lies, and his tricks he uses to lure the curious into supporting him.

Redwood Dan
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Redwood Dan
6 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Im not really talking about Dane, I’m more talking about what I see with my own eyes.
Yes, everyone has seen lines in the sky, but does everyone care about what the lines are or if they should be breathing it?

Central HumCo
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6 years ago
Reply to  Redwood Dan

Not Dane –

http://12160.info/video/hurricane-dorian-and-everything-you-need-to-know-about-weaponized?xg_source=activity 28 mins. September 1st.

~skip to the 3 min. mark to get by the intro., and hear Kennedy’s speech. Then at the 12:21 mark is Rosalind Peterson, Northern California, she gives an excellent speech.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Redwood Dan

Have you looked into it or are just worried?

Central HumCo
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6 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

[edit]

Kennedy said, “The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans’ freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight.” –John F. Kennedy at Columbia University, 10 days before his assassination.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Sorry HumCo, much like many other of your quotes, theres no record of JFK saying that;

But although variants of this quote have been making the Internet rounds for more than a decade, it does not appear in any of Kennedy’s transcribed speeches or press conferences, nor in any books by or about the 35th president, nor in any academic or popular histories of the period. It doesn’t even turn up in books devoted to JFK conspiracy theories published before the quote became commonplace on the Internet.

The earliest example anyone has found to date appeared in the signature line of a message board user in a post dated 10 April 2004. That example featured slightly different wording from that of the later meme:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jfk-plot-in-this-country-to-enslave/

Hate Snopes as much as you’d like, your still wrong.

Dig it up on any search engine, in any country on the dark or not dark web.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
6 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

[edit]
Happy Saturn day to you. I’m looking forward to a little rain tomorrow.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I think I missed something there, dang!

But yes, indeed. Enjoy the weekend and the rain!

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Regarding the missing apostrophe and “e”on “your” I assume.

Thanks Ullr.

Should have been “you’re”.

I often don’t manually correct auto-correct features if it reads good enough, but that slip was pretty bad.

Cheers.

Kym, Ullr is welcome to correct me anytime, imo.

I know you can’t make special rules, so I’m just saying it.

Thank you.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
6 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

That was it Brian. I was specifically not being a grammar nazi; only pointing out the irony of correcting someone with a grammatically incorrect sentence.

Cheers.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
6 years ago
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laura hall
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laura hall
6 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Geoengineering watch is my mainstay. Good listening

hill billy
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hill billy
6 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Humco, I don’t really know about the website… when I clicked on it, some scary music came on, so I had to turn it off. However, I just want to say that I really appreciate your post regarding the Kayapo people, as it is very thought-provoking.

Thank you.

Z
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Z
6 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

I appreciate the quotes from Kayapo Tribe. Thank you for that Central Jum Cty!

Central HumCo
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6 years ago
Reply to  Z

Aw, thanks, guys. The scary music is at the beginning of every Saturday morning’s broadcast, where Lyndon Johnson is on film at a graduation ceremony bragging about, “He who controls the weather, controls the world.”

Joe Dirt
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Joe Dirt
6 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Amazon the lungs the Hart land even Down Under the exploitation and degradation of the planet what well we do to God’s Garden sacred ground is not a wasteland did anybody listen to the screams from the dying babies in their last minutes of life extinctions death and destruction happen before our eyes did anybody care there is a war on humanity and nature where is the moral High Ground

robash141
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robash141
6 years ago

All our normal weather is happening in Alabama.. # MAGA

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
6 years ago
Reply to  robash141

What does MAGA have to do with Alabama weather?

Bozo
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Bozo
6 years ago

The BLOB is back. Eastern Pacific Ocean warming.
Last time we had that level of warming, it was 2015.

The misadventures of bunjee
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The misadventures of bunjee
6 years ago
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No date on the photo nor link to it, so how can we know if that’s accurate?

Doggo
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Doggo
6 years ago

It has been in the mainstream news the past week or so. Check NPR. That is where I heard it.
The blob was last an issue in 2014 I believe. I will look for a link

lynth
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lynth
6 years ago

Beautiful article, Susan! Thanks for publishing this, Kym!

Mary Ella Anderson
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6 years ago

Thanks for posting this very informative and useful information. You have the best and most informative blog around here.

shak
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shak
6 years ago

I’ve heard it said that we can predict how many snow days we’ll have, by counting the number of fog days in August. Unfortunately, the info was lacking. The number of hours the fog lingers? The thickness of the fog? The location of the fog? … Valley fog? Mountain fog? Coastal fog? Inland fog? Night fog? Morning fog? All day long fog? …. Too many variables. Next year, I’ll try to remember to jot down the fog/time/depth/location/etc to try to get a feel for it.
Anybody have an app for finding misplaced car keys, glasses and cell phones?

The Hermit of Grizzly Mountain
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The Hermit of Grizzly Mountain
6 years ago

“No Humboldt Fog? Oh my, Gromit! What will we put on our crackers? We’re out of cheese!” – Wallace

gunther
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gunther
6 years ago

I did not miss the day after day after week after week of solid gray skies. I will not feel guilty.

Antix
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Antix
6 years ago

Rad pic Kym ??

ikickittoyou
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ikickittoyou
6 years ago

Great article Susan Nolan, thanks for sharing Kym.