[UPDATE 1:03 p.m.] Hay Trailer Pulled by Truck Caught Fire Near College of the Redwoods
Trailer on fire. [Photo by Donald Wilkes]
The hay trailer is fully involved, according to the dispatcher. The vehicle is partly in the outside lane and the California Highway Patrol is closing the lane.
Multiple agencies are responding.
UPDATE 12:37 p.m.: The trailer of hay is completely destroyed. The Ford pickup is also catching fire.
[Photo by a reader]
c Firefighters have now broken apart the bales and are spraying them down. The truck looks damaged but still standing as shown in the following two photos by Tracy Waid.
UPDATE 1:40 p.m.: The hay will be removed and then so will the vehicles before the lane reopens.
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Interesting… this was a smaller trailer.
Usually the big Alfalfa trailers catch fire.
Wonder if it was grass hay or Alfalfa ??
Possibly the brakes on the trailer were stuck???!!!
probably dragging chains.
Probably threw a cigarette/joint/blunt out the window & blew into the trailer.
Yeah, wondering what all the smoke was about while doing 29 mph with his right foot mashed to the floor and leaving rubber for seven miles. Yeah, could happen.
It was probably wet when it was baled. This makes the bales spontaneously combust later in their lifecycle. Many’s the hay barn burnt to the ground from this problem.
I learned something new today.
That’s what I was thinking too.
Lanes are congested N/B. Please use caution.
?Damn,wonder who flipped the cigarette the driver or a passenger or a car passing by. In the Korean war they taught you how to use a match book and a cigarette as a primer.
Delayed ignition fuse for an explosion Matchbook & a LIT Cigarette!!!
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Wet hay can spontaneously combust. I’ve seen it happen more than once.
That. What’s the rule? It can take a light rain but u gotta rake it after. Any more rain will bleach it and call for further raking. Small bales probably prime alfalfa which is pure nitrogen (think Timothy mcveigh). Even with due diligence, stacking, and shedding…it’s that London time of year. A shame, hope the rigs okay.
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Damn how many different identities do you have Willy?
A bad wheel bearing can throw out sparks as well, catching the hay on fire. Hay catching on fire due to spontaneous combustion is plausible as well, since I was involved in one such fire by piling loose wet hay into one big pile on a sunny day.
But not on already cured hay on a recently loaded open small trailer. When hauling anything flammable these days I try to avoid stopping where someone could flip something on fire into it. Paranoia I guess. Not that I know what happened.
I wonder why he didn’t unhitch and move his truck a bit away.
Looked as though owner was more worried about getting her children out of the truck and to safety than unhooking her vehicle
She can replace the truck/trailer/hay, but not the children. Think about it.
Thinking about it is what I was doing.
Probably was too hot to get that close to it, or it could have been spilling over onto the hitch as soon as they stopped.
Like some unlucky drummers.
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Hard stuff to put out. Burns a long time.
Thanks for this report. I heard siren after siren in Loleta. Wondered what and where they were going to.
Ohhhh, some of the comments tho…
Nothing new there though.
Hay, fire !
?Lol.
It was hay. It was not spontaneous combustion. The hay was dry and being moved from one location to another. There were no chains hanging down. The breaks on the trailer weren’t stuck. The driver doesn’t smoke and neither does her passengers…which were her children. They suspect it may have been another car driving by who flicked a cigarette on the hay since there was no evidence of anything on the truck or trailer.
The only thing that matters is that she and her kids are okay. The truck and trailer can be replaced.
My son in law farms in Scotland. On my last visit he was plastic wrapping the rolls. He had a long thermometer and checked each bale before wrapping. I forget the temperature, but do remember him stating how critical it was to prevent combustion. Throughout the season he’ll stab the bales to check their condition, particularly on a sunny day.
?Thank you for that,I didn’t know that thank you for that info. ??
That’s gangster. They should make edible vegetable cellulose it’d be cow sushi.
Shooting handheld vids while driving puts others, including first responders, at unnecessary risk. That’s why it’s illegal.
I was more concerned with the gallon of water. they were going 10 mph. I see drivers everyday use their smart phones going 60+ mph. the amount of single vehicle wipeouts has increased dramatically.
~sorta, kinda, off subject
Manure: In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship, and it was also before the invention of commercial fertilizers, so large shipments of manure were quite common. It was shipped dry, because in dry form it weighed a lot less than when wet, but once the water (at sea) hit it, not only did it become heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by-product is methane gas of course. As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did) happen. Methane began to build up below decks, and the first time someone went below at night with a lantern, BOOM! Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was determined just what was happening. After that, the bundles of manure were always stamped with the instruction ‘Stow high in transit’ on them, which meant for the sailors to stow it high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane.
Thus evolved the term ‘S.H.I.T’ (Stow High In Transit), which has come down through the centuries, and is in use to this very day.
No, it’s an Old English word. Here’s Snopes on the explanation you give https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/shit-faced/
But I studied older English literature and Shit was a word that was used long before the 16th century.
Why Snopes Gets an ‘F’ for Fact Checking
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
In the barrage of information you come across daily online, how do you know what’s true and what’s nothing more than hearsay, gossip or all-out lies? Some people use Snopes as their go-to source for online fact-checking, believing it to give the unbiased and credible final word on all those widely-circulated stories.
https://bit.ly/2BQ4V05
~i did just check my handy-dandy dictionary and see it was bef. 12c as a vulgar verb. What i posted would be a noun.
LOL, Mercola is a lying scam artist, of course he wants to discredit any website that fact checks.
~opinion.
For god’s sakes, I forgot that trying to argue with someone that refuses to believe fact based sources and only accepts shit sources is like trying to grapple with shit. You end up with something but you’re better off if you hadn’t even tried.
Here: How about this source? http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2019/01/24/science-and-shit/
Here: https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=shit
or this: https://books.google.com/books?id=AHekAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA400&lpg=PA400&dq=%22Despite+what+you+read+in+an+e-mail,+%27shit%27+is+not+an+acronym.%22&source=bl&ots=0VY29d9yb7&sig=ACfU3U2M3Nloh-0vd3U899FYUu965eh62A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMqqO77dTgAhUXFTQIHSMbA5oQ6AEwAHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22Despite%20what%20you%20read%20in%20an%20e-mail%2C%20'shit'%20is%20not%20an%20acronym.%22&f=false
This: https://flushtoiletblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/why-they-removed-shit-from-my-shit.html
I tried. But you are unlikely to change your mind so I wash my hands of the whole shit and caboodle.
~you can be right Kym. Feel better?
“Gerald Myers February 24, 2019 1:12 am
From hay fire to etymology of the word shit in one article – Only on Redheaded Blackbelt!
You just gotta love this site.”
The RHBB site gets kudos, but you’d rather poop in your Easter basket over something so trivial.
Well, I’m odd in that I don’t think people refusing to face facts is trivial and folks blindly insisting they are right when evidence to the contrary is right in front of them is crazy.
But I will say that I was amused by my efforts to convince someone I knew would not be convinced. And I had fun writing my comment.
Like you denying racial slurs and defending their use?
Could you point out where I did that? A link to a comment where that happened would be helpful or perhaps put my name underneath in a comment.
Just stating I did something, that I don’t think I do, and not providing at least one instance isn’t helpful if you want me to correct what you think is poor behavior. (After some thinking I remember you complaining about me saying that people aren’t allowed to call each other nigger, chink, etc. You thought I shouldn’t write the word nigger out. I disagreed. We’ll have to continue to disagree there. Once again though, I find myself wondering why you complain about this site, think I’m racist, and generally despise the commenters and yet, you continue to come here. It boggles my mind. If I truly thought a site were as bad as you think this site is, I would boycott it.)
Kym
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
― Mark Twain
I think you tolerate what would be racist if done by some but think it is permissible if done by others. Can you honestly say you would let a comment that starts “black people are (something bad) pass criticized while you routinely let stand unremarked “white people are (something bad)?” It’s because you truly believe that those universal condemnations are obvious historical provens. Such attitudes in the public media leads more certainty of hate, not less. It may be an expression of sympathy for those who ended up suffering but the only thing that actually reduces radical hates is not tolerating any of it or by tolerating all of it. Never by playing favorites, which only eliminates any good influence because it is clearly biased. People are influenced individual by individual. Not population by population.
And I think I respond to what captures my attention. What you don’t see are all the deleted comments. I tend to, in my opinion, squash liberal commenters who exaggerate and are rude, more than conservative ones. Frankly because I expect better of people who should know better. If they sport a liberal political position, then they should stop painting with broad brushes. That is my bias in my opinion.
How to put this… You think there is an inherent virtue in liberals that poor benighted conservatives are too pathetic to be expected to have? And that very idea doesn’t raise questions about bias judgement? That somehow you equate virtue in being liberal and a lack of it in being conservative?
There is no inherent virtue in either. They are both expressions of power. How that power is used is what makes the user virtuous or not.
~and i do the same with you, Kym, about cons-piracy.
All in all, we have this platform to express our thoughts, and i am grateful to you for this.
relaying information, no matter of it disposition and source, are not thoughts.
“We seldom realize that our most private thoughts and emotions are not actually our own. For we think in terms of languages and images which we did not invent, but which were given to us by our society, We copy emotional reactions from our parents . . . Society is our extended mind and body.”
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in a democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government, which is the true ruling power in our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of . . . we are dominated by a relatively small number of persons. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind and who harness social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.”
–Edward Bernays
From hay fire to etymology of the word shit in one article – Only on Redheaded Blackbelt!
You just gotta love this site.
Give it another day and it will then go to MAGA and trump or liberals and bernie.
Self fulfilling prophecy.
?It kind of looks like a passenger was doing the shooting.?
It does look like the passenger is filming, but who’s filming him? That’s right, the driver. And with multiple children in the car.
Good job Jonathan Weltsch for providing this video that the passenger could have provided, putting you kids lives and emergency responders’ lives at risk, and for letting us all know that you are a douche for doing so.
It happened because the regen process of that year of truck. It has a dpf filter that heats up exhaust soot around 1300 degrees once every so often to burn it off. Apparently better fo the environment… all newer diesels are similar.
I was just going to say that…6.4 powerstrokes are aspecially known for high exhaust temps blowing flames out the tailpipe. Probably most likely what happened.
Thank you for mentioning that. I had not heard about it.
That’s insane and obviously dangerous!
In the old days drivers would punch it on their favorite straight stretch to burn out the excess carbon. That left it up to the driver to know the conditions of the road and environment. I miss the old ways.
Or simply knowing this allows a person to compensate for the few bad side effects of generally useful engineering?
Hay is not cheap. Has anyone set up a gofundme or a donation jar to help them get their animals fed until their insurance check arrives next century?