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Mail guy
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Mail guy
4 years ago

Herb was much cooler when it was illegal

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Mail guy

~herb(s) has/have always been lawful and still is/are. The permi$$ion $lip$ and licen$ing TAX (MINUS the CONSENT of the governed), is for one thing, and one thing only – the death of a culture.

Because of self-similar fractal patterns, there’s nothing new under the sun.

The Myth of Authority (video contest winner)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k4pXwmis7A 18 mins. 2016

Please Check One
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Please Check One
4 years ago
Reply to  Mail guy

Yes and no. There’s still plenty of cool. You don’t see romantic, heartwarming, pretty docs with laughing children, sprightly young women going off to market, attractive extended families gathered at the dinner table and soundtracks featuring soft guitar music about raising soybeans, now do you?

tman
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tman
4 years ago

It was cool before the cops and the outlaws joined the same team to slang .CA weed outta state. Now its a public/private CONJOB

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  tman

tman,

“Now its a public/private CONJOB”

FOR SURE. A cons-piracy on the ship of fools . . . as the permittee$ shoot holes in the boat as it sinks.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Mail guy

Stop growing cannibis and start growing marijuana again. On a side note…. congratulations to all those who have paid there dues and struggles to go legal. To the legal growers who are selling ALL there weed on the black market, thank you. It sure has the prices pumping and lots of buyers still coming into the area. Would also like to thank Estelle and her crew of corruption and extortion for doubling the price of black market weed in less than in year. Congratulations everybody and keep up the hard work!

Mike
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4 years ago
Reply to  Mail guy

Amen

J
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J
4 years ago
Reply to  Mail guy

Lol, said the privledged white person with little chance of going to jail pre legalization, no wonder black people are so upset with white privledge, such a gross ignorant comment, make me ashamed to be white

Black Rifles Matter
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Black Rifles Matter
4 years ago
Reply to  J

I love being white, privileged, and ignorant. You should just go black face for the rest of the year if your so ashamed to be white. How about we trade you… or better yet…. sell you. Go Drink another glass of soy milk and shut up.

B
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B
4 years ago
Reply to  Mail guy

I liked when we were all in the same boat…..legalization has just made the already rich richer

Vicki R (Clark)Dillon
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Vicki R (Clark)Dillon
4 years ago
Reply to  Mail guy

Yes I was there as you are now began my life living off the land here in 1976. Congrats to all roots farmers

Julia
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Julia
4 years ago

Why are all of these events soliciting minors?

Bethany Ann (CPS)
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Bethany Ann (CPS)
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Children are not allowed to participate in commercial cannabis activities and certainly should not be used as marketing tools for these activities. Disgraceful.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago

You’re attempting to create trouble where none exists. These family oriented activities aren’t negative.

Proud of these young parents following in the footsteps of their parents.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago

You reap what you sow… but that’s not a good lesson for life, eh? Bethany, why don’t you put your veiled bureacratic threats of child abduction towards kids who actually need help?

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Agreed. Bethany’s authenticity seems questionable at best. Just another knee- jerk hater..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

(CPS). The fox guarding the hen house.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

That’s the understatement of the year.

J
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J
4 years ago

One of the most disgusting things about the industry is how much they involve their children, you don’t see children hanging out at a brewery, you don’t see children hanging out at a pharmacy, but countless children we hang out around a medicinal and intoxicating plant, even touching it and being in the same room as it while it’s trimmed which is awful for your lungs. It’s disgusting that people try to normalize having their kids around a crop that even when legal they can get robbed at any moment. I would never in a million years allow my children around a crop that has gotten many people killed. Don’t know why people think they can’t grow without having their kids in it

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  J

“but countless children we hang out around a medicinal and intoxicating plant, even touching it and being in the same room as it while it’s trimmed which is awful for your lungs.”

gammon – related to the “gammon tendency” in Dickens’ Nicholas Nickleby, where the word means “nonsense”.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  J

Your fears aren’t based on fact nor reality and most certainly sound weird.

Please do some research.

wantstoknow
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wantstoknow
4 years ago
Reply to  J

I member thirty years ago when a cadre of our local children were students at our small “necessary” school. Some of the kids would come to class starting in October with buds clinging to their clothes–a result of parents using their bedrooms and other ancillary rooms to hang their pot. It was a matter of great concern and some merriment. Most of the kids survived it and went on to be great upstanding citizens. Some didn’t… But you could tell even then who would make it and who would join the army of street people already amassing ..And the beat goes on…

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago

What is disgusting is your comments. A conditioning brought on by the federal government’s lies and shows how shallow and uneducated your belief is in the falseified stigma. I see a loving farm family just as you should.

We the people by the people United we stand!!!!!
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We the people by the people United we stand!!!!!
4 years ago

Why doesn’t our government see that there was thousands of other people out there like these ones who are crying out for a permit process that’s affordable and obtainable!!!! Why cant we farm our land if we put in the water storage it was about the fish rite ??? No because it’s not really about the environment its about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

ITS TIME FOR CHANGE
ELECTIONS ARE COMING

hmm
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hmm
4 years ago

Carpetbaggers or former mega growers?

Beware of the Turncoats
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Beware of the Turncoats
4 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Turn Coats

trapaholic
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trapaholic
4 years ago

Bendict Arnold — that new strain all the kids are puffin

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  trapaholic

Benedict Arnold.

~seriously? Why would i be surprised? Are there ‘strains’ of Lucifer, Satan and Beelzebub?

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago

As much love as possible, I’m sending to these young Earthy families. I’ve also been there done that. My children have children who are having children. Loving the family land is a dream come true.

The people who joined with Newsom and $64, don’t grow cannabis. They grow marijuana. Marijuana is the legal not lawful portion of our very large cannabis culture. Adulterating the correct terminology is unforgivable, it’s theft.

Each of these peaceful people understand my point. They don’t intend to create harm, they wish for better relations. I recommend ending the sloppy, negligent misuse of the term they’ve abandoned. They’ve moved on down to legal marijuana and deserted the morally perfect cannabis.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

Rod,

~i concur three times.

Language, thought, and reality (Exhibit B). It’s 4 pages. Excerpts:

“How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!” –Samuel Adams

“Ignorance of the law does not excuse misconduct in anyone, least of all in a sworn officer of the law.”
In re McCowan (1917), 177 C. 93, 179P. 1100.

“Taxation” is theft, purely and simply. Our founders did Not fight and sacrifice lives, to escape the Old World for the New, so future generations of Americans would ever be taxed on over half of their wages and complacently hand it over to a corporation.

“The property which every man has is his own labor, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable. The patrimony of the poor man lies in the strength and dexterity of his own hands, and to hinder his employing this strength and dexterity in what manner he thinks proper, without injury to his neighbor, is a plain violation of this most sacred property.”
Butchers Union Co. vs. Crescent City Co. 111 U.S. 764.

“Ordinance” -it designates a local law of a municipal corporation, duly enacted by the proper authorities, prescribing general, uniform, and permanent rules of conduct relating to the corporate affairs of the municipality. Morris v Town of Newington. Black’s 6th.

The lawless are “Legal”, ain’t no doubt about it.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

~one more from same doc.

“. . . an ordinance which makes the peaceful enjoyment of freedom which the Constitution guarantees contingent upon the uncontrolled will of an official – as by requiring a permit or license which may be granted or withheld in the discretion of such official – is an unconstitutional censorship or prior restraint upon the enjoyment of those freedoms.”
Staub v. Baxley 365 US 313 (1958).

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Thanks for the research and posting, again.

I think your touchy-feely is above and beyond what I’ve been accustomed to previously. You are a positive influence.

Kym Kemp I applaud your commitment to diversity on your site.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Briefly, there is 3-D grey between 2-D “this or that” black and white. However, while here in the flesh, on this material world, i do put lotsa weight on Supreme Court citations – as Fact.

“Kym Kemp I applaud your commitment to diversity on your site.”

~i second that.

Rod Gass
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Rod Gass
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Yes for sure, I agree.

This topic has generated quite a large amount of dis-agreement of opinions. The hard facts and data have historically been pro-legal or even pro-hibition for 80 some years in America. Prior to that, I’m not sure.

I shudder to think about the next 80 years of “legal” and what might become normalized.

Cannabis historically, doesn’t need “legal”. Legal wants cannabis so that growth of government can be built from taxation. Partnering with the very real, excess taxation scheme, seems to promote dependency on Big Brother.

That’s my opinion, not shared by academia.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

” . ..seems to promote dependency on Big Brother.”

~this may include artificial entities or legal fictions with legal rights. Like a disclaimer on a bottle of DDT.

Dinks
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Dinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Well then Kym why dont you tell us what the facts are

t
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t
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

fact is all that legal weed aint bein sold legally… That means the tax man is a crook on two or three levels.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  t

” the tax man is a crook” PLUS:

~you’d have to be a little short on grey matter to think that joining in the fraud doesn’t make you a part of it.

Fraud is gaining at the loss of another using trickery and deception.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Rod Gass

Rod,

Thank you for your kind words. Glad to be of service.

~i’m humbled in Humboldt.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

“Our founders did Not fight and sacrifice lives, to escape the Old World for the New, so future generations of Americans would ever be taxed on over half of their wages and complacently hand it over to a corporation.”

But tax they did. And President Washington squashed a tax revolt very early in his administration. The whiskey tax didn’t go over very well in the backwoods.

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/educate/educator-resources/lessons-plans/presidents-constitution/whiskey-rebellion/

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/excise-tax-imposed-on-whiskey-starts-whiskey-rebellion-jan-27-1791-017976

“On this day in 1791, after a vigorous debate, the House, by a vote of 35-21, approved legislation imposing an excise tax on whiskey. The levy proved highly unpopular and sparked a brief armed revolt — known as the Whiskey Rebellion — against the federal government, which had been established in 1789.

At protest meetings, opponents of the tax cited the Stamp Act of 1765, which helped foster the successful uprising against the British crown. Western farmers regarded the tax as unfair and discriminatory. They earned much of their income by distilling their spare grain into liquor, and they were incensed that the tax was aimed at producers, not consumers.

In 1794, some farmers in western Pennsylvania attacked federal officials seeking to collect tax on the grain they had distilled into whiskey. One group of resisters, disguised as women, assaulted a tax collector, cropped his hair, tarred and feathered him and stole his horse. President George Washington dispatched 13,000 militia men under his personal command to put down the incipient revolt. Resistance quickly dissipated after the troops arrived.

Alexander Hamilton, the first secretary of the treasury, joined Washington in the field to put down the rebellion. Hamilton had proposed the tax on distilled spirits to raise revenue to pay down the national debt. It had soared after the federal government assumed debts incurred by states in the Revolutionary War as part of the grand bargain that led to the adoption of the U.S. Constitution.

Hamilton said the tax would serve “more as a measure of social discipline than as a source of revenue.” But, perhaps most important, he wanted the tax to advance and secure the power of the nascent federal government.”

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Sickening.

~in better days we’d be showing up with scythes and pitchforks. Back ‘in the day’, the people didn’t mess around. I read one of these State Trials of yesteryear into the public record, the one where a Treasurer named Bartholomew does that little dance that’s done at the end of a common law rope.

https://books.google.com/books/about/Cobbett_s_State_Trials.html?id=nAUKAAAAIAAJ

Guest
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Guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Which, if they had a good education in actual history rather than social criticism, people would have thought more carefully about the government’s power through taxation before prop 64 was implemented. It was so obvious a parallel and was frequently brought up. But, as is now a painful cliché, those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it. People prefer to believe their own thinking and hate when reality interferes with that.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I like this tar and feather idea. We need to modernize it a bit. Instead of taking a horse we take the chipper. I believe the rebellion failed because the farmers did not give the militia free samples. I suggest we start giving MET some samples while they assemble. We all legally can carry up to an ounce and we should start sharing. I am sure after a hard day’s work those officers, rangers, marshalls and the other various agency employees would enjoy some fine Humboldt herb legally when they ain’t raiding us. Herb is what I called it when I was younger calling it weed was played out a generation before me.

tom5
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tom5
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

The FBI is Investigating Corruption in legal weed… Check it out…

https://mjbizdaily.com/fbi-investigating-possible-corruption-in-u-s-cannabis-industry/

I don’t like the [edit] much, but at least with this maybe the local coppers country club greed weed will be checked?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  tom5

https://mjbizdaily.com/local-corruption-becoming-hurdle-for-marijuana-license-seekers-in-california/

This is a link from the article you linked to.

This link from MJbiz daily links to Kym Kemp!

Specifically the story of the Humboldt official arrested for taking bribes.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Kym needs to be nominated for a Peabody Award in my opinion. Someone from HSU needs to nominate her.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

Ben Franklin said…

Commerce must be fair,
Commerce must be equitable.

https://youtu.be/qH5QzuzD01A

It would seem that we would do well to understand the correlation between the loss of industry and the rise of the opioid crisis in these interesting times.

Add a financial crisis…

Holdo on to your seats.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

~on a people basis, not the whirl view;

ThAt is the whole point, Sid. WE ARE NOT KNOWINGLY, WILLINGLY, CONSENTINGLY in Commerce. You’re referencing something that does not apply to We, the People, with boots on the ground.

Central HumCo says;

Keep your sea-faring equity. I Demand Justice in Law, on the Land!

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

I don’t understand your angle there CH.
International waters means that nobody claim that area as their own, even if they create islands to wiggle the 12 mile rule, don’t matter. It’s non negotiable. So, in a way, the sea-faring and the law of the land do indeed embrace in distinctive situations. Otherwise, what’s to stop a govt from hovering an ifo over your property then claiming that 12 miles on either side of the ifo belongs to the ifo’s country. (bad analogy, but it works good enough).

Fair and equitable applies to all parties, not just to one or the other. It’s not fair to have to pay 80% more than what we charge, or visa versa. Either we’re all on board with fair and equal or we’re not. They can lower theirs or we can raise ours. It was their call. Raise it it is.

Our central govt was created for the purpose of managing all foreign matters like tariffs, immigration, defense, negotiations, … in order to stop the craziness of mixed-uppity. Imagine what it would look like if greedy Calif officials could name their own tariff’s to every country (including our own countrys aka states). 1000% for you! 20% for them! 0% for them. Good grief what a mess that would be. It’s bad enough that they’ve been having a say in DC over such matters, especially with their alleged back room deals.

In short, they’re supposed to make things fair and square for all country’s aka states. They’re not supposed to regulate our goods, just the travelling rates and rules that get them to us. If all the country’s/states want to stop drugs from anywhere coming across the borders, the central govt is supposed to protect those borders with physical and red-line-drawn red tape. (what we do inside our own borders is off limits to them, as long as we’re not hurting another’s BOR’s, but, even then, that’s up to each state to decide the penalties for hurting another individual’s BOR. Wait. Nope, they were given the authority to perform that duty and the penalties were drawn up through legislative input. But, in regular everyday Joe cases, the Feds aren’t given that same authority).

I laid out my line of thinking/learning, so you can lay out yours, and we can compare where we’re saying the same thing and where we’re not and why.
(not scolding or whatever, just trying to decipher).

I thought the video was spot on with the things we’ve been learning lately, like about the universities. Look how many ex-cabinent/campaign/etc members from certain presidents and terrorist events have mysteriously became ‘professors’ at our local universities.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  shak

~i was, in my round-about way, i suppose, pointing to the land jurisdiction, the Supreme Law of the land, that defines what Congess’ delegated authority is, in how to express We, the People’s power.

When we’re talking equity, we’re talking Tort Law. The juris is concurrent, not exclusive; equity comes to the help of the law in cases where the law would ultimately have to award damages, but the remedy would be inadequate.

suzy blah, blah, once said, “There can be no forgiveness without bloodshed”. I’m not in favor of violence, unless protecting self, family and/or friends.

CASES ON PROCEDURE
ANNOTATED COMMON LAW PLEADING

By Edson R. Sunderland
Professor of Law in the Law Dept. of the
University of Michigan
https://archive.org/details/casesonprocedur00sundgoog

Furthermore, the system of pleading developed at the common law has been the foundation of all the modem codes and statutory systems. “Code Pleading,” so-called, was an attempt to reform the common law system. No one can know code pleading unless he knows the system which preceded and produced it. Every statute enacted to modernize procedure is to be interpreted in the light of the practice which was intended to be superseded. Common law concepts and common law terms persistently survive every effort to abolish the common law system. And the reason that the new systems cannot eliminate the old is that they grew out of it. Ancestors cannot be abolished.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Thank you for clarifying.
I’m all on board with the Common Law System. It’s the only one that’s justifiably true and correct.
The video Sid posted is pretty much declaring the same thing. Our common law still stands even if mankind can create new areas of land to disturb the rules of law. Nothing’s changed. Common law still stands.
Did you watch the video?

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  shak

“Did you watch the video?”

Oh shak, you had to ask that question. I’ll give it a look see.

“It is the mark of the cultured man that he is aware of the fact that equality is an ethical and not a biological principle.”

~as we walk between the wor(l)ds . . .

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

~it is a talk about China Trade War, right? I don’t think much further out than the Triangle – INCLUDING the airspace above.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

That’s part of it, but, no, that’s not the main point that’s discussed.
and, yes, it does involve ‘infringement’ on individual rights.
Floating islands, whether by land or by air, is an extremely important issue.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

Yep, and that’s not the only ‘trafficking’ problem that’s been created for and by the same means.

2s4u
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2s4u
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

and now from the makers of our western democracy comes….

Quote from Under an Ionized Sky,

“The U.S. military-industrial-science complex is using both chemical and wave energy to create a planetary technological infrastructure to control the weather (control=weaponize) and human beings (including their powers of thought). This infrastructure is land, sea, air, and space-based, existing in an envelope possibly 600 miles thick, concentrated especially at the latitudes of the equator.”

Quote from Cliff Carnicom

“There is a world that most of us know of and that we are comfortable with. There is another world that we should know of but do not, and that should, by all rights, make us uncomfortable. We are responsible to learn of its existence, as it surrounds and affects our every move regardless of the level of bliss or ignorance that we adopt to ease our discomfort.”

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  2s4u

2s4u,

We don’t want to hear this, but need to hear it. #1 Priority.

Grateful for your comment.

Who will keep the truth alive if not us?

2s4u
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2s4u
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Thanks Central. Real democracy means an educated and informed populace.

Ullr Rover
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Ullr Rover
4 years ago
Reply to  2s4u

Constitutional Republic.

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. In free governments, the rulers are the servants and the people their superiors and sovereigns. Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.”

-said some wise person

2s4u
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2s4u
4 years ago
Reply to  Ullr Rover

I enjoy your comments on here Rover , this is a great quote!

tired of idiots
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tired of idiots
4 years ago

It takes a certain type to want to be a farmer. Good for those who choose that lifestyle and have a passion for it. Some deserve to be successful. The being said, these folks look like hell. Maybe just tired, but c’mon this idealistic hippie thing is pretty rare from what I’ve experienced. Most weed farmers are in it for the $$ and either won’t or can’t function in the real world so they live in the’ills. Moved here ten years ago to start a farm? I think they mean they came here for the greenrush, the lawless culture and easy money.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

tired of idiots,

~you’re doing the oil water tango.

It was more of a Greenhou$e rush, imposed upon the land by the for-profit governMental corporate service employees gorging at the People’s Public Treasury trough.

Culture is not based on profit.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FDiQIYFVwtE

Dr Peter Breggin. Uncut

Must watch the documentary..

Themindsofmen.net

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Sid Vicious

~don’t you just love how these mindsofmen are all coming forward, and that we have access to their knowledge, based on their decades of experience?

All hail the World Wide Web.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago

A moot point but.. None of these people are hippies they are the children on hippies and are weed growers who also grow produce.. When i see these types of videos i cant help but see the first world privledge they have.. But def not hippies. Def not psychedelic warriors, def not. Most of the real back to the lander types of this generation wont care to be on film. Its kind of annoying

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  This guy

“Most of the real back to the lander types of this generation wont care to be on film.”

~ya think?

Cmon 2020 elections cmon justice
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Cmon 2020 elections cmon justice
4 years ago

People that haven’t ever farmed always say it’s easy money, there isn’t anything easy about farming, its work from sun up to sundown 6 to 7 days a week,sometimes late into the night until you drop from exhaustion.

Me
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Me
4 years ago

No , it’s literally easy money . Ten years ago i worked maybe 2 1/2 hours a day for six months a year and grew 100 pounds five or take between dep and full term . It’s not fucking hard. You can keep telling yourself that though. Try being a carpenter or a roofer

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Me

~i bet you talked to the girls with their roots planted in terra firma, fed them natural nutrients, watered with well water, sung while walking thru the ladies, asked permission to harvest, performed the harvest early to mid-morning after a full moon, hung them to dry inside a dark w/correct humidity room, gently trimmed by hand, cured w/daily checks, and got down on your knees and gave thanks . . . right?

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

“ asked permission to harvest “ …… “ singing to the plants “ lol 🤣

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Me

Me, Me, Me.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

Yes being thankful. Like I am in the fact your comments are in the past tense, says a lot about your growing techniques.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

The fact that you can’t wrap your head around pulling 100 pounds on average out of two runs with two 12x40s says a lot about your own techniques

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Me

Help Me Rhonda.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

Technique as in growing. You are just a feeder you know nothing of growing. Apples and oranges dude.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Word salad

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Legallettuce,

~you can’t put sense into a fool’s brain.

Duh me
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Duh me
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

Ya me and i bet your product looked like shit. Dried rite, manicured and cured???
We care about quality and not using chemicals.
Plus i call BS on you, unless you had a crew with you you couldn’t pull off a hundred pound harvest with 2.5 hrs work a day. No way.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Duh me

You must not know how to grow or grow some pretty shit strains . All i ever used was earth juice and molasses. 2 12x40s pumping out 50 pounds of dep first run and 50 pounds full term second. My wife did all the trimming and i was getting 18 a pound . It’s not hard and plenty of people do it . If you can’t pull that off you shouldn’t be growing ….. “ unless you had a crew “ lol wtf ?!?!?!

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
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A monkey can make 100 k a year growing marijuana. It’s not rocket science. Inside or outside. Takes more money than hard work. A lot of people don’t have the start up cost to do it. Property, fuel/electricity, lights , clones, fertilizers, trimmer $ etc.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

“Takes more money than hard work. ”

~the only true currency in the world is labor.

“Labor prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital and deserves much the higher consideration.” Lincoln, December 3, 1861.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Molasses – LAUGHING MY ASS OFF. How natural of you.

Dep, BTW, is an abbreviation for deprived.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
4 years ago
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It’s amazing what one person can accomplish when they apply themselves.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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“Ye shall know them by their deeds.”

Government Cheese The Artist formally known as LostCoastEMP
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Government Cheese The Artist formally known as LostCoastEMP
4 years ago
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True that yeah sure! Sobriety, a vision, determination and hard work always. pays off.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
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I call bullshit!

Me
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4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Call it what you want . Do a little math maybe ? 80 plants per greenhouse ( 160 total ) at 5 ounces a plant equals what?

50 per greenie x 2 = 100 give or take 3-4 pounds .

Nice chatting with you

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
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Yep bullshit call’in it. I will start with molasses, do you even know why you are using it? Secondly you pulled all of this with just 2.5 hours a day of work for 6 months for 180k a year, one human, you, was doing this and now you are not.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Brix for the soil plus a natural source of magnesium . Do i need to draw a picture for you?

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
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Yes please draw a picture the rest of us will use decades of growing knowledge. I’ll save you the trouble of skipping to the end of this post the answer is NO!

Understanding why the answer is no will help you understand your garden. Let’s have a look. In a normal garden, or compost pile, you have a large variety of microbes, all going about their daily lives. They find something to eat, they poop, and they die. This is a continual process that goes on a billion times a second.

Microbes are opportunistic in that their populations will increase and decrease as the conditions change. Let’s assume you have not been doing too much in the garden so conditions are not changing. In that case the microbe populations remain steady. Things are chugging along at a normal pace and everybody is happy.

Now you dump a lot of molasses on the garden. Instantly, microbes sense the extra food and they start to multiply. Bacteria can divide (ie double the population) every 20 minutes. The population explodes very quickly. All those bacteria need to eat, and they quickly consume the molasses you added. As the food source runs out there is a massive famine and most of the bacteria die.

What has the molasses accomplished?

Not much. It is true that all of the dead bacteria go on to feed other microbes, and they help build soil structure. The minerals in the molasses stay in the soil and plants can use them, but your soil probably had enough calcium and iron before you added the molasses. The vitamins in molasses are of no value to plants.

Is the massive population explosion good for your plants? I don’t think anyone knows, but most things in nature are better off without massive changes, and plant roots depend very much on the population of microbes around their roots. I just can’t believe a bacteria population explosion is good for the plants.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Fo sur LL.. I have stopped using so much Molasses in my Tea.. And I only use it in veg, and early flower.. I never feed Molasses with Bottle Juice (Earth Juice) or whatever next clever bottle of stuff they want to sell..That’s a recipie for Mold’s fo sur. I never consider that I am feeding Molasses to “My Plants”.. It’s only to feed the benificial Bacteria.. Plants do not absorb “sugar” thru thier roots, if at all..
There are much better ways to raise your Brix, than to feed molasses.. IMO..

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

lol, giving away secrets SF. I use it as well to help breakdown a potent topsoil I layer on during the solstice.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
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Here’s a handy dandy website that will answer all of your questions about using molasses. Hope this helps since you’re just starting out

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/soil-fertilizers/feeding-plants-with-molasses.htm

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~like feeding fish to cats.

I’ll pass on you Deprived Molasses Express.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
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Yes of course just starting, someday I hope that I achieve such an efficient and profitable operation as you. Seems impossible since I just got in from working 10 hours in my field.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Sounds like you’re doing it wrong 😂😂

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Legallettuce,

3% of the people can think. 2% think they can think, and 95% would rather die than think. –George Bernard Shaw.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
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Me is full of Hype.. Cannabis cultivation is hard work. Maybe you could get away with 2.5 hours a day 10 yeas ago.. But that must have been some lousy Weed.. 2.5 A day, is most likely just Summer Maintaining, and a lousy roll at that..Spring and fall are obviously much more labor intensive.. And I kinda wonder why Me, quit?.. Too difficult for ya.. couldn’t hang, I understand, I have seen a lot of turn around amoung people who couldn’t muster the energy it takes.. But that’s ok, Some just don’t qualify…

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~there’s no place like home. That’s how i feel when i read your comment, SmallFry.

Thank ya.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

‘Where trouble’s melt like lemon drops’ lol

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Duh me

Yes u can. For sure

Anonymous 9
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Anonymous 9
4 years ago
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Growing 100 pounds of dep is easy. Growing some dep and the massive quantity of vegetables those guys grow is a lot of work. Briceland forest farms is a legitimate little farm, it’s pretty impressive. Like they seriously grow a lot of food in the most organic and sustainable way possible.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous 9

according to Legal Lettuce it’s impossible. I know a few other people who can blow me out of the water with their yields

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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Me, Me, Me,

QUALITY.

NOT, “blow me out of the water with their yield$”

~do you have a clue where you are?

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

in the same place I’ve been for the last 49 years, Bud

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Me

~but you took the blue pill.

antony
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antony
4 years ago

These people don’t look like they had to work that hard to own the land they are on.
This dude sounds like his parents gave him a ranch for free!
no wonder it was so easy to get permitted.

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
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Yea the struggle gets more real when u have a mortgage or land payments.. Way more real than being gifted labd that was paid off with what?

Blek flow kana
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Blek flow kana
4 years ago

Flow kana are non locals coming here to make money off of our hard work. Dont trust them!!!
THEY ARE ABOUT TO SELL FLOW KANA TO PHILIP MORRIS/MARLBORO!
Do your homework folks theres lots of foxes in the hen house right now.
Go back to oakland flow kana!! We dont want you here. You obviously dont get small town living if you think you can hide that fact!

When you couldnt answer how youd track peoples herb as it gets processed in your facility we knew something was off.
Go home.
We’ve kept big corporations out as much as possible&every one of you responsible for attempting to bring in Marlboro are not welcomr here. Stop trying to make our area into the bay area.
Flow kanas money flows right out of our county to the bay area.
Sorry to all farms featured in video. We wont be buying your product as very soon that video will be on Philip Morris website.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Blek flow kana

Do you have any evidence that they are about to sell to Marlboro because i think that’s a baseless accusation

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~i believe it’s called the Bottom Line. History. Follow the money. Not too hard to figure out. Doesn’t take a rocket surgeon.

Faro
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Faro
4 years ago
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It’s not a baseless accusation. The way venture capitalism works is you build a business and then you sell it to a big corporation for tons of money.
Just like Emerald scamly farms sold out to that penny stock company.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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“Crony capitalism” is not capitalism.

It’s not cronies in capitalism that are the problem, it’s the cronies in corporate government that are. Money is and always has been under private control. Gov. has the role that the crony politicians, and the revolving door of Wall Street cronies that inhabit governmental positions, before moving on to claim their share of the Wall Street profits, that their misconduct has created, has assigned to it – to legitimize whatever the privately controlled banks who control money decide to do, and to socialize the losses that they create.

The sine qua non of “crony capitalism” is corporate gov regulation.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

There a big difference between what could happen and what is actually happening. I’ve heard no rumors of flow kana “ about to sell the company to Marlboro “ .

Pure nonsense speculation stated as fact.

Sid Vicious
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Sid Vicious
4 years ago
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Speculation, based on a knowledge of the game.

But, yes, at this point speculation.

There is too much venture capital flowing in to this business from a gold rush mentality , and plenty of people will lose before the consolidation begins.

Faro
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Faro
4 years ago
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Unless you own flow kana or have some insider info you are just speculating also. Flow Kana are total rip offs. Selling out to Marlboro would probably be the most honest thing they ever do.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

I talk to a few people who work there behind Whitethorn construction sometimes when I’m getting a sandwich at cafe dolce. Nobody has said a word about selling out to Marlboro , ever

Facts
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Facts
4 years ago
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You obviously do not understand how Corporate works. Mid to low level employees have zero clue about corporate dealings. They’re almost as clueless as the naive “farmers” that have givin FK their value. This is a story of the middle man rolling his profits on the front. Only on steroids. This Story will end as the greatest rip-off in weed history.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
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Me,

A few of the people your tussling with literally make stuff up as they go.

They may not know the difference of reality( is happening) to fantasy ( is not happening).

I could name them, but they probably stick out like a sore thumb to you too.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

👍🏼

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
Reply to  Faro

Em fam is still run by the same people who started it fyi.. They got something called investors and are taking care if theirs just fine it seems.. All the while giving people jobs with ladders to climb..

t
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t
4 years ago
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yah well F the county for permitting mega scenes on superfund sites… prima ag my azz… what a scam, prime ag…keep it in the woods so the kids dont have to see what sellouts our gov. are… little kids walk past that place on the way to school… ITs disgusting.

Government Cheese
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Government Cheese
4 years ago
Reply to  Blek flow kana

True that. Wolves in sheep’s clothing. It’s money, plain n simple. Stop glorifying the word “cannibis “. Cannibis = money.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

“Cannabis=money.”

~we’re NOT talking doll-hair$.

We’re talking culture death.

Remember, this is a spiritual evolution, not economical.

Turn a profit for investors
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Turn a profit for investors
4 years ago
Reply to  Blek flow kana

Do you have inside knowledge? your saying flo-kana is gonna be bought by Altria (Philip Morris’s parent company)that’s doubtful .But Cronos (Nasdaq-Cron)is well funded by Altrias 1.8 billion investment. Flo kanas California market is the biggest in world! if flo kana is not making investors money a buyout might provide the investors a nice profit.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  Blek flow kana

I am not a big fan of Flow Kana either however they at least are getting product that is grown very well from Humboldt to market. I am very proud of the farmers in this video and the simple fact is they should be the ones on display showing a well made product.

The reality is money and I did not see any locals opening up their pocketbooks to create a corporation that manufactures, distribute, transports, markets and opens dispensaries in big cities. Having that all around support is what it is gonna take to participate in the cannabis industry in California. In order to play in California’s cannabis industry you need lots of money that you can take heavy losses year upon year until profitable (In the US they call these people investors). These investors are in it for the long term allowing the corporation to use speculative forecast to keep investors at bay and to solicite new investors. It gets real complicated from this point so I am just gonna stop after the next point of contention which is Marlboro. Yes Marlboro can invest in Flow Cana they could also buy them out or if on the stock exchange in the future acquire through hostile takeover. It’s America it is what America does get over it.

Now in my humble opinion no local I know has or had the ability to do what Flow Kana has done for these local farms. So, way I see it, if ya wanna participate in California’s cannabis industry you need either big backing or lots of cash. The alternative is to just grow weed cause out there is a nation that loves some fine Humboldt well grown herb. Quit blaming the people who just wanna grow and live a fine life for themselves no matter how they go about it. If your not hurting anyone the environment, fish, critters then I see nothing wrong just keep the societal city shit judgements outta our hills is all I ask.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
4 years ago

The only thing that’s missing is the footage of them driving to redway liqueur, chataqua , signature, and Costco.
The environmental and economic cost of living off grid while participating in our modern economic culture seems pretty steep, but more enjoyable than living in town, that’s for sure!
Obviously, even best practice types bring the accoutrements of human vanity back to nature.. no solution to that one, so trying to be attentive to the land is better than not..
I will never buy marijuana, it’s so easy to grow. And many people don’t even smoke it(for example, many growers tend to not smoke it)
I don’t see how good natured heartwood type growers can survive the basic competitive lechery of economics.
Good luck nice white people.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

“ good luck nice white people” . What does skin color have to do with any of this?

This guy
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This guy
4 years ago
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Cuz they are all living the epitome of white privledge. Dont even have mortage payments or land payments..

Really?
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Really?
4 years ago
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Name anything that can’t be made into a race issue at will.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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~love, beauty, joy.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Really?

Only racists make everything into a race issue at will

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

it was a reference to the good hearted progressive white privilege emanating from the video.
Nobody I know transplants seedlings that slow

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

Ah you’re one of those identity politics racists on the far left. I kind of thought so at first but thanks for clarifying. I’m more interested in what people think than what they look like

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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“Ah you’re one of those identity politics racists on the far left.”

People don’t tell you who you are, you tell them.

Me
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Me
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

He showed his cards. If it walks like a duck …..

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

….and it quacks like a duck…..

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Me

“Nobody I know transplants seedlings that slow”

~not something a duck would notice.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
4 years ago
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Nailed it!
Lol

Robin hood
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Robin hood
4 years ago

Here comes the conman coming with his conplan we won’t take no bribe we got to stay alive we gonna chase those crazy baldheads out of our town.

Bobby Willits
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Bobby Willits
4 years ago

How come local cultivators despise flow kana so much? Is it their disingenuous marketing of being farmer friendly? Is it their low ball pricing? Is it there processing plan to screw the small farmer by down grading the product? Is it their constant pr campaigns about how they are saving the farmers and the region? Is it their investment from big tobacco? Is it the fact they tell farmers they want to be like ocean spray and Sunkist glossing over the fact those brands were founded and owned by the farmers? So many questions…

Humboldt county government is a joke
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Humboldt county government is a joke
4 years ago

Speaking of chasing people out of town theres a meeting to replace Estelle fenell Sunday August 25th at 2pm at the healy senior center. It starts with grassroots in your own front yard let’s begin a movement to retake our dignity and freedom back,it was our birthright in the United states both my Pappys faught in ww2 for it. Screw these theiving politicians

trapaholic
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trapaholic
4 years ago

So Friggin CORRUPT… Fennel mine as well be working for Al Capone… F outta here

community
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community
4 years ago

This film made me cry with happiness, as these are the people I know and connect with. This is the slice of Humboldt that brings us together, as loving, caring community. We support one another, from the farmers’ markets, to the volunteer fire departments, to the schools. This is not a myth. This is what many of us call community, and I am proud to be a part of it. There are the ugly sides to our community too. The massive greed of the growers who care nothing for community and poison and pillage the land. The ones with all the guns and the violence. But Daniel and family and the others depicted in this short film are the heartbeat of our community and I love them and all the other organic, conscious farmers in our Humboldt home.

tootsie
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tootsie
4 years ago

Well done video. It has always seemed crazy to me that people buy indoor grown stuff at all. The most beautiful growing conditions for so many things in the entire world. That is our uniquness and strength. Kudos to the hardworking real people who just want to make a nice life.

Cmon 2020 elections cmon justice
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Cmon 2020 elections cmon justice
4 years ago

What about all the hardworking people who wanna make a nice life but didn’t have the 200,000 $$$ extortion money??? I guess we’re left with nothing except to try to recall,impeach,and vote against the sell out filth that’s in office!!!!

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

12:25 on a Saturday and i’m hearing the too familiar sounds of hell-o-copter blades.

Look, look, up in the sky.
Is it a bird?
Is it a plane?

No. It’s the military industrial complex targeting the marijuana industrial complex+ everybody else who DARES to farm what Mother Nature provides for us.

tahca
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tahca
4 years ago

That was a nice video. What I like best is the notion of growing food/whatever with a method in harmony with the land.

Humboldt county government is a joke
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Humboldt county government is a joke
4 years ago

No permits no plants no economy === no votes no job in public service/representative for u

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

Down with permits
Down with economy
Down with votes
Down with re-presentatives

~lead yourself.

Asst chief
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Asst chief
4 years ago

Such bullshit reminds me of a commercial from one of those giant pharmaceutical companies. Pretty much all the growers I’ve come across are opurtunistic assholes that don’t give a rats ass about anyone , or anything but their fancy toyota trucks , spendy exotic vacations, impressing their latest girlfriend etc .Kym, While you seem to do a better job than loco of reporting local news , it is disappointing when you post biased crap like this.

Asst chief
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Asst chief
4 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym.There are exceptions to the norm.However, volunteerism is common in blue collar communities like Ferndale as it used to be here until the weed industry came along as logging died off, now we have a handful of volunteers on our dept and the volunteer growers are the ones that rarely show up on calls , parade their uniform around town and use the fire dept radio as a police scanner. So perhaps you can see my reason for disliking growers.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
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“Logging died off”

~in your dreams. It has sped-up. As i’ve suggested before, take a short ride east on 36 from 101, before you go up the hill to Hydesville, on you right is but One massive cemetery, in “The County”, of the destruction and murder of our forests.

shak
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shak
4 years ago
Reply to  Central HumCo

Meanwhile, the landowners who can’t afford to shell out an alleged $40,000.00 check towards a permit to log enough to build homes or clear out the overgrowth aka fire fodder, can’t log at all.
There’s one in every crowd that seems to be the highlight of any pro’s or con’s. You’ve pointed out a con. I’ve pointed a pro. We both are right about those particular individuals. Lumping them all together as one is asinine, no matter what we feel about it.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago
Reply to  Asst chief

OF all the nerve!

85 comments in one day before 6:00, says u b wrong Asst chief.

The general diffusion of knowledge and learning through the community is essential to the preservation of free government. –Carl Becker

commenter
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commenter
4 years ago

Sure, it was easy to grow 100 pounds.
But not so easy to harvest, dry, cure, trim, store, and sell.
The selling was the hardest part.
If I had had a good East Coast connection I might still
be in the game.
Then again retirement and not worrying about abatement is kind of nice also.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
4 years ago
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Good points commenter.
To new paths

Curioso
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Curioso
4 years ago

What is this Flow Kana? It sounds kind of corporate with really good PR, but the address of the company is in San Francisco and the CEO was an investment banker at Merrill Lynch for 12 years before joining up with National Cannabis and California Cannabis associations, according to Zoominfo.

Guess it’s a gamble, like growing weed always has been.

Truthwillunfold
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4 years ago
Reply to  Curioso

That’s unfortunate to hear. I guess we would have to expect this. Most of us are not good business people. We grew up or spent most of our lives here. I’ve excepted that the future of our county will change. Easier to except then fight it. We have already losnotbing wrong with losing lol.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

Twu,

“We have already losnotbing wrong with losing lol”

~what?

In guessing, i’ll say this; Perception determines your reality. One would have to believe in a state of delusional insanity if one believes the creation can have more authority than the creator. Since people created government, how can government have more authority?

Beginning at the root – The Charter of the Forest, November 6, 1217, was specifically brought about by demanded protection of the commons from external authority.

~looks like we need to get ourselves back to the garden, the grass roots (so to speak), by way of,
The Charter of the Forest.

Central HumCo
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4 years ago

“… corporate with really good PR,”

~since corporations are full of crap-o-the-bull, all they got is PR -falsehoods floating on the Sea of Commerce.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago

While I commend these Hardworking Pharmers for living the Dream, and their Sense of purpose… And wish them well.. as people.. I think there should be like an Anti-legalization video.. Images of Abated Small gardens once thriving, and lively, now abandoned, chipped, and covereded in thistle and weeds.. The permit fees hard at work… It’s not just that the regulations are expensive, difficult, and overburdenous, it’s also that most of the regulations are a bunch of hyped up Bullcompost as well…
But the produce from the farmers market is always A grade! Qudo’s on that, it is a lot of work..

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

I agree, definitely needs some media on the other side of this war but that just becomes evidence. I been pondering athough at the same time, well maybe this cleansing ain’t so bad. If the prices stay you can bet some of them that grew real well that stayed away might put 20-30 plants down somewhere next year. Full circle, DEP came in and destroyed the industry now DEP is being destroyed by the greed it created, fitting.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Some of its bad, some of its terrible.. Some of the cleanse is justified.. Some of these grows are awful. On the other hand some of the abatements are completely unfounded, and only set for market consolidation..
It is something of a full circle paradox.. There has been a lot of damage done by deps, but I feel like they are fairly essential to the survival of small pharmers.. I can’t say all deps are bad.. I kinda luv and hate deps at the same time, so I have my own Paradox about them.. lol..
I do hope that people can find ways around the system and find ways to manage! Necessity Is the mother of Enginuity!

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
4 years ago
Reply to  SmallFry

Yes I do not mean to down play the affect. I will never forgive this county for what it has done. Many people I love that deserve their place in this industry were kicked to the curb. Fine, they wanna play like that, lol let’s play I say. I still consider it a war and one thing we know is how to fight this war better than anyone.

SmallFry
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SmallFry
4 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Very true LL! Unfortunately, legalization has not only led to the continuation of the war on Cannabis, unfortunately it has also brought about an escalation! It may be evidence of abated gardens, but I think it’s important people see the ‘Zombie Gardens’ laid to waste that the legalization Apocalypse has created.. When the going gets ruff, the tough get stoned and get busy.. We can fight this war better than they!

Cattle Great 🐄💨
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Cattle Great 🐄💨
4 years ago

Having a legal Cannabis business at your homestead and teaching your kids to farm , garden , and cook sounds like it could be a pretty good lifestyle if you can make a decent living might as well keep up the good work and try to make your best run at it if you’ve made it this far and watch out for those cow patty’s .💩