Hispanic Drug Trafficking Organization Grow Raided; K-9’s Used to Capture Suspects, Says Trinity County Sheriff’s Office
This is a press release from the Trinity County Sheriff’s Office. The information has not been proven in a court of law and any individuals described should be presumed innocent until proven guilty:
On August 4, 2019, personnel from the Trinity County Sheriff’s Office, US Forest Service Law Enforcement, California Department of Justice and California Department of Fish and Wildlife, conducted a raid and eradication of a marijuana cultivation site on public lands. This was as a result of a months-long investigation of a Hispanic drug trafficking organization operating on public lands near the Trinity Alps Wilderness boundary on the Shasta Trinity National Forest in Trinity County.
During the operation, several subjects attempted to flee the scene. Trinity County K9 “Johnny” and California Fish and Wildlife K9 “Gillie” were deployed and apprehended two subjects.
A total of 1,888 growing marijuana plants and 200 pounds of processed marijuana were seized. There was evidence at the site that many more plants had already been harvested. Thousands of pounds of trash, miles of black irrigation pipe, dozens of propane tanks, hundreds of pounds of fertilizer and plant supplements were also at the site. A loaded SKS rifle was recovered in the complex.
Scientists and ecologists from Integral Ecology Research Center were brought into the site to evaluate and document the impact of the water diversion and the infrastructure that will need to be remedied. Initial estimates indicate well over 100 acres of public lands has been damaged by the illegal marijuana cultivation at this complex.
Subjects Arrested:
Manuel Cardenas DOB: 09/29/1986
Genaro Merino DOB: 03/06/1985Charges:
11358(d)(3)H&S – Cultivate Marijuana causing environmental damage
11359H&S – Possession of Marijuana for sale
182PC – Conspiracy
1602F&G – Unlawfully Divert Water
5652F&G – Deposit material within 100 feet of waterway
5652F&G – Deposit hazardous material in waterway
148PC – Obstruct, Resist a Peace OfficerAgencies involved:
Trinity County Sheriff’s Office,
US Forest Service Law Enforcement & Investigations,
California Department of Fish and Wildlife,
California Department of Justice,
Campaign Against Marijuana Planting (CAMP)
Integral Ecology Research Center
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Hispanic or Latino, which is proper?
There’s a difference. google it
who cares… it’s about time they finally bust ANYONE on federal land, go after those people to cheap to buy/rent or illegally in the country. How many cartel bust? Are they too scared to go after the real criminals more often…
Democrats calling for gun control and calling are president hitler. 😂😂😂😂omg. Wake up. You all a joke. Yea you just lost a lot of votes😂😂never going to win
a-holes
Poor brown babies, obviously in need of leftwing sympathy and sanctuary
🕯🌳All finance by the white man.
There is no irrationality that will not be said to be going too far in the effort of white shaming.
White shaming, lol, white people being oppressed by other white people?
It’s a mindset that most can’t relate to. It’s like a 20 dimensional chess game that doesn’t exist except in their heads. It’s a deep fear of losing white identity in a changing world. It’s pathetic as hell.
Agreed!
Yes. It’s seems sort of like some white people are genetically predisposed to hating. If they can’t hate other groups, they turn on themselves in a feeding frenzy. Scary isn’t it? It would be so much better to establish a principle that using membership in any race as the criteria for judgement will certainly lead to poor results and should be avoided. But applying principles seems too slippery a thought for some people to keep hold of. Like those who live by vicarious attachment to movie stars, everything with such people becomes personal. They don’t analyze why they find one more or less appealing than another. They don’t know why and can’t be bothered to say. They just pick an object to emote all over it.
Hmm…people. not just white people. The Hutu and the Tutsis in Rwanda? Tribes of the same skin color all over the world doing horrific stuff to each other…The slave trade from Africa was enabled by black African tribes defeating other black African tribes and then selling them to the slavers. Native american tribes who warred with the neighboring tribes and who would horrifically torture captured prisoners to death. It’s not a “white people” thing! It’s a human thing we do all over the world in all of our skin colors. It’s an outgrowth of tribalism- and tribalism is a survival mechanism. Hatred of others is really a love for your own…well, not really but it has very deep roots- some of which are good and useful. I don’t think we can really solve the problem if we ignore the roots of racism/tribalism and do a superficial PC cleansing. we are talking about behavior that has enabled the human species to survive through thousands of years of unpredictable resources. No- I don’t use any of this to support racism. Just saying it’s roots are deep and there’s bad unnecessary stuff that is attached to some old survival stuff that was not bad- it got us to being alive today.
Yes.
Don’t be ignorant. A white people thing. Pfft. People hate their neighbors almost everywhere you go, and I’ve been to more places than most.
Growing marijuana on public lands is an offense to all races.
Right, Willie!!
You betcha cause thankfully a lot of people do not believe white babies were never immigrats or commited any crimes in coming to America. An ignorant white baby who’s grown up and is using skin color as a major political issue shows America’s true color, sad, sad indeed.
you assume. maybe that guy is red, black or yellow
Oh boy, Trumpers in the house. The Trumper weather thread on loco is as depraved as it gets. I love watching them tell each other they can’t possibly be racist and how crazy everyone else is but them. The den mother has lost her mind and the scouts are wandering in circles trying to prop the whole charade up.
Thanks for the absurdity and the laughs.
Thanks for the plug! Your loyal readership means a lot.
Poor Connie, I guess you guys don’t say anything worth highlighting there, huh? Just chasing yer tails all day.
Oh, Trevor, leave these nice people alone, can’t you?
I thought I was Jim. You guys can’t keep anything straight.
Kym why preface this with “Hispanic” I am so disappointed that we are going this way. Illegal grow is an illegal grow. So the next bust, be sure and say “Sweedish, Italian, German or mixed-race peoples grow bust. I mean WTF.
This is a quote from the article. “This was as a result of a months-long investigation of a Hispanic drug trafficking organization operating on public lands near the Trinity Alps Wilderness”
But as soon as you say the word cartel (which is who’s running these grows) everyone gets butt hurt.Get the cartels illegal grows on state and federal land out of our triangle…stop sending money to buy guns that are killing people on the border
Yeah, how WAS that relevant anyway? Without it the racist dimberwollies could still get their groove on by digging the dudes’ names.
Show me another ethnic group responsible for more violent crime, total disregard, and quality of human life than these Mexican cartels, read ur south of the border news,take ur kids to school driving under bridges w/bodies hanging, mutalated, its coming!
Your reference to the identity of jeffersonian’s ethnicity based on colors in my response is stereotypical of an ignorant white male based upon research. As I see it until further research can be provided of other ethnic groups using skin color to cause political turmoil. My belief will continue to be that it is generated from ignorant white babies taught by ignorant white parents.
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Equally as absurd as the effort to use skin color in a racist manner to counter an allegation of racism… No wait. It is far, far more inept and pathetic when a supposed adult keeps repeating what is in essence “so’s your old man” and being proud of it.
In line with the usual age level of posting – “I’m rubber you’re glue, your words bounce off me and stick to you.” And to cap this scintillating exchange- so’s your old man.
I’ve enjoyed this trip down memory lane to the elementary school but I have to do some work now. So feel free to repeat ad nauseam and, if I’m still in the mood, I’ll come out later to play some more.
Ok, don’t let the door hit ya where the lord split ya.
Are you offended because I am correct in my assessment. You have any research that disproves my hypothesis that ignorant white babies raised by ignorant white parents are the root cause of America’s ignorance towards humans color of skin. Surely you read properly what I wrote instead of getting stuck on the word “white” which is not really a color at all. Any ignorance to another human based on skin color which makes continuing the ignorance based on a color that does not exist seems more inept to me. But all you see is white white white white white white white white white then act as if you have any experience of racial percussion such as those that actually have.
Guest will twist your words every which way so he/she can showcase her lecturing abilities.
No need to twist something so petty, spiteful and pathetic as those qualities shine through. All that is needed is to point out that they are poison and should not be consumed by anyone..
Nelson Mandela — ‘Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies.’
Quoting Mandela and commenting about white shaming. Sad dude really pathetically sad. Do a little more research as well this quote is not applicable.
For your edification-https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/08/19/resentment/
It is hard not to respond to “white white white white white white white white white” in the posts since, after eliminating the non meaningful words, that is all that is left. And yes, exactly- any fool that thinks disparaging one race is the cure for disparaging racists deserves to get their destructive illogical called what it is- destructive stupidity.
Yes eliminating truth and facts are normal to those who still view others by skin color. Thanks for proving my point. Again to be clear white is not a color you should of learned this fact in school if not you should be clearly aware now. Those white shaming rainbows, lol
Actually white is a color. It is the Mother of all colors because all colors are contained within the color white. What happens when you shine white light through a prism? You get a rainbow. All colors are is what light is reflected back from whatever object you are looking at. The only color that technically is not a color is black because it absorbs light, therefore is devoid of color. No colors are reflected back because all color is absorbed. C’mon man, we learned this in the first grade or something.
Finally, this is how long it took to actually understand my point which shows the ignorance I am commenting about. All you needed to add was the word wavelength and understand that no wavelength exists for the color White. So, can ya now understand how this all started with an ignorant comment of the color brown which contains white. Then the other ignorant comment of the commentator could be red, yellow or black two of which are mentioned contain white and the other is devoid of any wavelength at all. So, I hypothesized based on research using the same ignorance of the commentators and guess what I got told I was being racist and white (not a color) shaming which proves my point about ignorance and soon to move from hypothesis to theory. Thanks for playing
You have it almost right, just completely backwards. If you switch the words white with black, then you have your color scheme right. White has a ton of different wavelengths in it, not no wavelength at all.
It is correct I just did not get technical and summed it by using the word contain. I lean towards the side that white is not a color but arguments can be made for both sides.
Repeating nonsense endlessly does not make it true. That is simply the chanting part of magical thinking.
Legallettuce, are you saying that nobody but ol’ whitey can be a racist?
I didn’t immigrate. I was born here.
Me too but not narrow minded to forget how this country was shaped and built on the backs of immigration and still is to this day.
So was unrestrained immigration an unalloyed good? It is simply illogical to criticize both the devastation of unrestrained immigration on locals yet use it as an argument to support it . The opposite idea that the person- who is aware of the bad effects on previous groups and is very wise not to want to become fodder for the next wave- is much more reasonable.
Bingo.
Yes it was our discussion proves it. Fear, you choose to live in fear of what might happen as your justification. I must of missed that amendment in our constitution the fear of what might happen clause. I prefer the not to live in fear and prefer to provide justification of how great this country is because immigrants made this country what it is today.
It’s true that most Mexicans are catholics, don’t like murder, escaped the violence, etc… I think 50% or more support border control because of that.
funny but not all white Americians came from families that owner or even were Americians during the slave years nor the inidian war years . No my ancesistors came here legally on a slow boat from Germany 2 weeks before America joined in the war against the nazis and upon getting here my Grandfather went rigjt down to the recruiting station and signed up. He went to south aferica fighting against his formor countrymen for this Americas ideals. every male since then with excwption of one uncle has served in the service. so tell me please what laws have we broken to be here ?
Here we go again, lol. I know you mean Americans and your reference to white does not matter, if using the word white does matter, read above and play along. I thank your great family for their service of our country and will just state a high majority of immigrants do not break the law. My point is about ignorance and fear over a wavelength (white) that exits in all colors. Simply put when the universe mixes all the wavelengths together we humans see white. When we humans mix all the wavelengths together we see black. We humans obviously are not seeing things properly.
We also rode horses fool😂😂🤪wake up
You sound ridiculous.
Another inciteful comment.
You sound ridiculous also. If you weren’t so condescending you might actually be interesting.
Mr. Trump. Build That Wall !!!!
So two years ago…. sad.
Yeah Sure, Needs to submit a bid to help Biden with his campaign speeches.. The dude needs some fire, or he’s going to get seriously clobbered! On the real! Kamala, she is going to tear Trump up.. I look forward to her debating Trump, even though I won’t vote fo her.. Biden, is the front runner, but he needs some serious help with his campaign speeches.. Even Bernie is way way better at speeches than Biden.. Maybe SNL could help Biden, someone needs to help him.. fast! It’s all about the Political Theater.. it really is..
Yeah what a speech yesterday Kamala had on the bus in Iowa about nothing. Oh wait crying that’s right.
At least she can articulate a coherent sentence.
Lol, that’s rich. Kamala? A joke, right?
You mean around the entire country. Or do you believe the undocumented aliens only cross the border between the U.S. and Mexico? What about by boat and the hundreds of places people can enter the country from Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, South and North Carolinas and the entire West Coast and the border goes on and on. If you think one wall will stop the flow of immigrants you and your marines should put your war clothes and start protecting the borders that will not have a Trump Wall with his one finger in the dam.
I am sure they will get it, then say the officers where Trump supporters, that makes them racist. so we will through it out of court, an slap the officers hands. keep on puffin!
I wonder which forest road they were using to access the site, and which drainage it was in..
I usually drink out of the creeks in this geological region, so it’s a crapper to have twerps spreading poison around the woods
Yikes, it’s not only that. There’s all kinds of stuff you can get drinking creek water. Beware.
As of most of Humboldt Co doesn’t drink surface water.
Um google the area, every creek has massive grows on them. Hello.
WHOA! Dude! DO NOT drink unpurified water out of creeks and rivers anywhere in NorCal (or SoCal for that matter). Bacteria, viruses, and parasites abound. You do NOT want to deal with giardia, or leptospirosis, or any of that shit, trust me. That stuff can kill you (sometimes fairly quickly, more often slowly) or else just mess you and your liver and/or your gut up bad. For years. A Lifestraw costs $20 and weighs nothing. Get one and use it, I beg you.
I know this comment won’t do well but go ahead and drink the water. I am a firm believer in natural selection as a course for humanity. Too many have been given a free ride in lifes journey due to societies restriction (education) of what might harm those that choose to not adhere. [edit]
Actually you can drink Water straight from a spring head if there are not cows around. Or dead animals or any animal dung within a certain distance… It’s fairly safe.. Consume at your own risk tho.. Rodenticides, pesticides and fertilizers are also a concern, in his modren age.. Never from a Creek, or river tho that’s cray cray!
I like it.
Does this Hispanic drug trafficking organization have a name? Am I supposed to hear the term Hispanic and believe it?
agreed.
Ondas got taken out in the 90s
And taken over by
La eMe
🕯🌳Do you really believe that?
Yes I do
La eMe works just like our state government.
They regulate and permit the smaller cartels to operate in our state for a fee or “tribute”.
Sound familiar…..
Did you check out the 3.7 million dollar fine leveled against a Silicon Valley wine entrepreneur?
He had dozens of pieces of heavy equipment and denuded and destroyed what looks like over a 100 acres of mixed woodland and wetland.
You could grow a 100,000 or maybe more weed plants on what got bulldozed for grapes.
And you know what? The guy gets to put in his vineyard anyway.
It’s good to be rich right
And I’m not talking a 100k of little dep plants with a 2’ by 2’ spacing I’m talking big full term plants.
Wine is part of the straight world, like cigarettes and beer. It’s ok to make stuff that kills people but not that cures. Good old Amerika!
Exactly, it is still a war against a plant based on discrimination and cultural genocide, they want to destroy our local cannabis culture and will commit acts of violence to achieve their goals and political agendas.
If a pot grower has the funds to pay fines, he too could continue business. That is not discrimination based on the nature of the product.
That is exactly what Cody King and Trevor Bohn did. They got fined for putting up 35 thousand square feet of unpermitted new greenhouses in 2017. They payed the fine and the County let them keep their greenhouses and all the plants in them. Everyone else has to remove their plants and greenhouses when they get abated. There is discrimination, but it is based on not having the right family and government connections – if you have the money and your daddy is a Supervisor, then you benefit from that discrimination.
C. King is a baby carrot 🥕, can’t lift weights with your jaw .
Dang rich liberals ( https://sanbenitolive.com/poythress-has-slim-funding-lead-over-caballero-for-state-senate/ ) from Silicon Vally have no couth. “In August, 2019, Kevin Harvey agreed to pay $3.76 million in penalties after his company bulldozed a protected wetland and filled in a stream bed to build a vineyard in Mendocino County. This settlement represents one of the largest ever involving water quality on the North Coast. The damage to the stream is so extreme that regulators determined the stream system to be beyond saving, and large portion of the fine will go towards improving two other nearby stream systems.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Harvey_(venture_capitalist)
Does this compare with Trump and his cronies administration opening up designated wild lands to mining, hunting and general pilfering?
You lose credibility with your preface.
Sometimes it’s embarassing shooting fish in a barrel but, if the fish have delusions of grandure, it’s hard to resist. Your post is not connected to the issue. It is simply a distaction by someone who has nothing useful to say. And saying it is more likely to reflect on speaker than on the object of their poor quality taunt.
Ok, then, what does “dang rich liberals” have to do with it?
Why it is the person who was fined that silverlining mentioned.
I find it hard to believe that 2 men grew all that.
🕯🌳Finally someone seen the tree through the forest.
What does it mean to say can’t see the forest for the trees?
(idiomatic) To discern an overall pattern from a mass of detail; to see the big picture, or the broader, more general situation. Smith is good at detail, but can’t see the forest for the trees.
which is by the way totally irrelevant here. they said that multiple people fled and the dogs only caught two. i thinking two caught because there were only two dogs
🕯🌳You really have improved your double talk from the dark room,here have a 🕯so you can find your way back,oh wait by some of the people I’ve seen on here today I think one of the moderators is having a house cleaning party.
willie it is a google search of a saying. just fyi
🕯🌳Ok.🖖
Yes, and I find it hard to believe that after a “months long” investigation they were only able to find two people at the site, and that a lot of the pot was harvested and gone. What were they doing for “months?” Looking for road maps to find somewhere to park the 20 or 30 trucks that were driven there to do the raid? Not that I mean to be sarcastic.
🕯🌳They were actually trying to catch them with the poppies but due to Humboldt red tape………..🏎🏎🏎🏎
What is the gang’s name? Los Daritos? El Fartito, Las Cucaroches?, El Bandito? Eyeyeye! I am a frito bandito! Cheech says “Hey man…got any hubcaps? “
The cartel that runs California is called
La eMe
They are the top dog and all of the smaller cartels have to have their permission to operate here in California.
So it could be a a smaller organization working here but they are governed by the “parent corporation”
La Eme itself is not a cartel. It’s set up like a mafia and made up of gang members from different So Cal sureno gangs. Like a Board of Directors. They tax the sureno gangs on their earnings and ok or deny murders and big time crimes the gangs ask to do..They coordinate and assist the cartels from Sinaloa and the Gulf as well as the New Generation cartel. They did work with Los Zetas but not much anymore..
🕯🌳Sure is a lot of people that know a whole lot about them. Hmmmmmm. But were’s the proof?
All the refried bean cans littered at the site say so
I doubt it’s as organized here the further away you get from Eureka. La Eme or whoever probably just buys local product and imports & trades/sells hard drugs to rural growing families. I would guess it’s more of a trade thing than a taxed thing. Or a permission or anything else thing. At least in SoHum. IDK about Trinity.
you hear that? That’s the predictable sound of mr Erik Kirk being quiet as a church mouse every time a Hispanics get popped. Especially when it’s a “organization”.
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No, I heard Sucker Carlson taking a needed vacation…
After hearing him say white supremacy is a hoax.
But that was before us not hearing you mention it.
It also was before hearing you make this most recent ridiculous flub of a comment.
Mr. Kirk also hasn’t commented on 90% of the last 2 weeks of white crime articles.
Except for literally the articlw before this article? And the second part of my statement should of said “and around the corner we have Brian insulting conservatives even though the people he’s insulting aren’t conservatives but at least it makes him feel better” I didn’t mention Fox News because who cares it’s irrelavant, except to the idiots that watch it and the idiots that get morally outraged by what the idiots said.
Yes , Mike.
That’s why I said 90%.
Accuracy matters.
Lol
Anyone one that loves a lawyer must be the one that sued McDonalds for spilling a hot cup of coffee In their lap.
Weak sauce..
Lol, how many mouths of investigation? and they cought two…
~good come back.
There’s good and bad in every profession. I’ve recently met two lawyers who were on the up-n-up. I won’t say i love them, but i liked what they both had to tell us.
Beans and tortillas dont equal mexican drug organization. The violence of allowing dogs to chew humans to pieces for code violations may be worse than growing cannabis on public lands …
Doesnt matter your color or race, anyone growing this way is a fycking asshole. Period.
Really glad to see resources going towards the REAL problems in the grow world. Hoping the eastern europeans are next!!!!!
Well let’s make sure we do the right thing and slap health insurance on them! Sorry still burning from the democratic debates. Arrrgh
Don’t worry. Your republicans will make sure nobody gets good health insurance because sick people are easier to control and lots of money can be made on them also.. burn on that.
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Thats the biggest bullshit statement on this thread. Disregarding the political part of your comment, people are not sick because of a lack of health insurance. A very small portion of our population is born with illnesses or deformities from birth and an even smaller fraction of the population develops illness due to genetic make up later in life. The vast majority of our illnesses are brought on by our own poor choices. If everyone ate right, exercised every day, didn’t do drugs, drink, or smoke cigarettes, healthcare wouldn’t be such a big deal Health insurance doesn’t make you healthy
It is true insurance doesn’t make you healthy, but medical insurance sure saves lives when people get ill. And really healthy living people also get ill. And my mother, who drank and smoked for 50 years, is still living at 96 years of age. also, Little kids get cancer and babies get born with bad hearts. They aren’t guilty of bad living, just bad luck.
Which why they all- every single one of them- gets medical treatment whether they can pay for it or not. That ability comes from the majority, who pay more than their own costs, so that those who can’t pay are able to get care anyway.
Squander opportunity much.
Pay for your own healthcare.
Personal resposibility.
We cant afford dead weight.
We just borrowed 6 trillion dollars!
The “dead weight” will pile up, that’s for sure, without a health insurance program of some sort.
That’s funny because the majority of the sick people don’t have money to pay .
We saw the convoy and chipper here the other day and all they wanted to know was…. what’s up with all the Mexicans????
I just watched a truck load of pot plants gooo back up
Maybe we should just all mark our roads for ice raids to help out a bit
Brown people article = Trumpers come out of the woodwork. Always sniffing around to slap us up side of the head with some Trumper silliness. God I can’t wait till you guys have to hide in the shadows again. So proud of yourselves now, riding on the hell train to nowhere.
~is this hinting at an undefined ism?
Come together people!
Hey there you are! Missed your alt left dribble. Was afraid you we’re busy drinking leftist kook aid, free drugs, open borders. Your only chance of pushing into shadows is assuring you have the illegal votes to push over the top while screaming racism. Typical Lib agenda
🕯🌳And your point is………?
I applaud you for not denying the truth Willie
hahaha
oh yeah btw Trump is writing up an executive order for voter id
that means one citizen (*living), one vote
Hahaha, maybe he could write up some executive order to stop Republican gerrymandering and voter suppression.
There is no point, just right wing talking points that have been repeated so often that you predict each and every one of them, although I’m not hearing how they are more “patriotic ” than everyone else, like anyone gave them permission to set that bar in the first place, but it made them feel good about themselves, I guess that’s a good thing. Poor oppressed whites need all the coddling they can get….
I can’t wait until the lefties run out of other people to blame for the left’s legislative incompetence. The left wing abuse of other Americans and her own incompetence lost Clinton the election and, in their usual ineptitude, the left doesn’t notice that insulting people didn’t work. So keep it up. Despite having the majority of the press feeding such delusions, it just might work this time. Right?
Umm.. As I remember correctly, 45 was throwin’ some serious slurs, and insults around everywhere during the election, and still does.. like paper towels..Seriously, I am not sure who is crazier Kanye West or 45.. I think both of them need to lay off the psyc meds.. I am not a fan of Hillary, not by far.. But 45? Who talks like that? I mean really..
hillbillary is very condescending with her comments about carrying hot sauce in her purse and being on “CP” (colored people) time
What does trump have to do with California prop 64?
It’s like bringing your kids to their little league game in town and arguing about the red sox and the dodgers, or whomever is playing at the major leagues.
Hillary is the reason we got Trump. Still not sure if Trump is part of a larger psychological operation, but I’ve been hearing from many intelligent people that there is an attack on our system of government, and putting trump in would be way more destructive when it came to weaponizing language and delegitimizing the office of the president, while turning up the level of violence.
The push to merge our form of government and society into a Soviet model is the Communist/Socialist Agenda.
Please listen to Norman Dodd,SF, to figure out how long this plan has been in the makin.
https://youtu.be/ri-skvTrJzI
Socialism or smt like that is the way to go for society’s. Trying to control corruption, taking care for the environment and living in a sustainable way. What’s wrong with everbody is doing pretty good instead of a few are rich and stupid as fuck? Culuture would develop and people won‘t be so feared and crazy but more equal and happy. The Russians or any ethnic group are not your enemy. Surrpresion through the rich, corrupted and powerful is the problem everywhere on this planet.
Your probably right SID.. I did try to watch your link, Honestly everytime I do, I like fall asleep like 15 min into it..no offense.. Is there a shorter version? It is interesting information..
It is pathetic that even that most dishonorable profession- politics- became a battle of name callers. But that is where the press and the public took it. And why Trump got elected- he could dish it out toe to toe with any carping liberal. People can tolerate liberal duplicity, venality, self righteousness, stupidity and arrogance as well as they have tolerated it in any politician. What they could not stomach was that the liberals turned their vitriol on ordinary Americans. Can you imagine the stupidity of that? What other choice did a large part of America have but to look to a man like Trump to save them simply because he was unabashedly willing to dish out on liberals what they have been dumping on American since Obama’s pre-inauguration apology tour? Only he did so on America’s side.
Ah the old days of conservatives who argued against nominating Trump because he was so not conservative. He was and is now not “liked” by conservatives and patriots.
Everything liberals foam at the mouth over with Trump conservative were saying before liberals even noticed him. But instead of behaving more civilly to allow Americans all to be less fearful of them, liberals doubled down screaming out their venom and thus eliminated all the other choices of candidates that consevatives would have preferred. The sole argument for voting for Trump became that he was the most likely to win in the hatefest America’s politics had become. Trump has, for me surprisingly, one overarching virtue- he is capable of going on just as long as any foul mouth, abusive, self important, destructive liberal. Who would have thought a playboy with such crass value would turn of go be as resistant to wear as a diamond?
It’s hard to understand why you blame liberals for being venomous and laud Trump for the same thing. Isn’t it wrong no matter who it comes from? And I’m sure you hate when people lump all conservatives together as one monolithic action, please, stop doing it with liberals. I am not Bill Maher.
Because I do not laud Trump for what he says but simply because he will not roll over and take being hit with garbage without returning fire. I revel in his ability to meet the liberal press on its own level which is something I do not have the power to do. It’s an arm’s race. I do not love the weapons but I hate much worse being the victim who is powerless to save themselves.
I would wish that all people would debate issues and respect each other. What happened though is the liberals have leveraged insult and moral outrage into massive weapons of self indulgence that threaten to create a war against me personally -with no holds barred. So to fight that, Trump has become “the enemy of my enemy” and thus my friend.
BTW if you posted criticisms of this lumping conservatives in groups to be attacked as you take personal offense with the same being done to liberals, I would be unlikely to post at all. There would be little need. I have tried explaining that conservative is not equal to racist, sexist, plutocracy, etc but it has fallen on deaf ears. There’s a moment of silence then the whole thing repeats. It is frustrating and I have yet to see an advocate of liberal ideas object to it. Frankly my thinking has drifted into thinking that being reasonable is being fodder for both sides. It’s become a war where there are no innocent bystanders.
I have. But then you came along and started reliably doing it for me. I offsourced it to you.
But…seriously…you can’t criticize people for lumping conservatives into one ball and then lump liberals. I don’t lump conservatives into one ball. There are a variety of opinions though there is some mainstream conservative thought just like there is mainstream liberal thought.
I know, respect, and love some conservatives though we disagree on many issues. And other people–both liberal and conservative—well, there’s no having factual discussions with them.
I will resign the position of Defender in Chief if I see any such comments.
You can be far left and far right at the same time… It’s called being a small government jeffesonian liberal or a civil libertarian …. you know a 1776 Patriot…. for peace, freedom, nature, and courage Faaar out!
I revel in his ability to meet the liberal press on its own level which is something I do not have the power to do. It’s an arm’s race.
What are you talking about?
You’re not making any sense.
I’m praying for 4 more years of Trump just to keep your blood pressure up…
I deeply question the choice of someone like President Trump as an ally. He reliably kicks anyone who gets in his way. He is a Trump first guy.
I deeply question anyone who doesn’t understand how it happened. As if there was any choice. And their part in making it happen.
No that’s a lie. I don’t presume to offer the personal insult you just did in return. I don’t bother questioning any longer why a person hauls off and hits. I just will defend myself as best as I can.
From an outside perspective of someone who does respect your thinking on many issues, it seems you are quicker to see insult done to you then to see insult done by you.
A pretty universal fault. As is the tendency to offer insult and not allow that is what it is.
I think criticism offered along with obvious appreciation for someone’s good qualities doesn’t quite meet the level of insult if you are talking about what I said.
I’m thinking that saying you deeply concerned by anyone who’s ally with trump can not be construed as anything but an insulting judgement call.
I’m thinking one can criticize without insulting.
But has one done that in this case?
i feel that Trumps “venomous” attitude is a rebut. just one of the newest examples is nbc universal will release their new movie “the hunt” which is about going to a manor and hunting ‘deplorables’. i have never seen such over the top hate from the right before. if someone attacks me or my character i would feel justified to respond (even with hate)
If Trump were attacking the movie industry that might make sense, but he attacks pretty consistently a large number of vulnerable people. Beyond that, he has publically insulted people he appointed to positions (Think
Rex Tillerson–dumb as a rock, lazy) Trump insults regularly. I don’t find that an effective leadership trait–not for a parent, not for a boss, and absolutely not for the president of the United States.
but just because he appointed them doesnt mean he shouldnt criticize them. he hired rex to get certain things done and he just wasted president Trumps time and didnt get the things done that he said he would. remember presidential terms only last so long so you have to make the time count. and i dont thing a grown man calling another grown man a name is “venomous” you could say childish or effective (because he is trying to grasp the attention of the nation, and that tactic is working, see you repeated it). in the end almost everybody calls each other names. you must keep in mind that all the things done to his presidency do affect his life so to me that is cause to be upset, boss or not, as a parent no it would not be acceptable
Do you really think that President Trump’s manner of speech is helpful? Many conservatives I know are still (rightly) worked up over Clinton’s use of the word “deplorables.” Do you think President Trump’s way of describing many people is better?
See below. I was writing while you were. Helpful? I suppose I do think that in the sense that if nothing else, his rhetoric keeps the left spinning around in hysteria, thereby being less dangerous than they had been. Only just recently the Democrats noticed how much they were losing by their own stupid focus on what Trump personally and not on what he does. The same with the press.
Could Trump ‘work’ with the establishment to accomplish more? Under Obama, the Congress was clearly disfunctional despite his native talent at double speak and there is not a chance in hell that Trump could ever get them to act together. His persistence in trying shows a depth of resolve that surprised me but he’s soon going to take a page from Obama’s play book and duck political negotiations with Congress altogether. So sad- a real loss for the country but I said that when Obama did it.
Are you saying Trump can be defined as: Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things.
Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it.
They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents.
And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player.
Unfortunately Trump’s base can’t see themselves as bit players. At Trump gatherings he manipulates them like pawns.
Trump speaks in hyperbole for sure. But he will work with the same person he insults and praise them the next day. He confuses his opponents by not thinking it such a big deal. He apparently does not take revenge nor is he relentless in personal attacks. He just does not think in absolutes. For good or evil, he is goal oriented in a practical way to the extreme and I think he does not understand those who are not. He is different than the life long politician, who has a back door agenda but even the agenda takes second place to keeping personal power.
You have to understand the man from the perspective of a captain of industry. If you have watched an episode of Sopranos, and you even liked the main characters a little bit, you have discovered the fascination with Trump.
He was like electing Frank Sinatra to office. Enough people like that he is not a pushover, that he will put American interest ahead of Globalist corporations. Now, as a Christian, I am happy he is for freedom of religion and for upholding our rights. I am not a huge fan of these new red flag laws, however, as I think this nation needs guns to prevent other nations from attempting war on our soil.
That’s because I played the game risk a lot as a kid, and think about life like a poker player. From living in the Northwest, I understand how frustrated people are over losing their property rights, water rights, gun rights, representation in local government, etc… It’s the little things that got Trump elected. It was the “Those hippies were right” libertarians in the end that saw a little Ron Paul in him.
Let’s just pray that he keeps us out of war. We were destined for a bad recession with or without him, so tighten your belts and prepare for some turbulence
As a Christian…don’t you think that Christ would be somewhat startled that you think a man of President Trump’s behavior is a good leader?
Let’s just look at one of the 10 commandments:
“You shall not commit adultery.” I’ll just leave that one there…https://www.newsweek.com/how-many-times-trump-cheated-wives-780550
What does Mohammud say about multiple wives?
I don’t think I infedelity is anything new in our history, and although it’s convenient to point fingers ana condemn, I’d be less concerned with consenting adults than creepy old men who prey on children.
I think Christ has come back and he’s currently homeless and doing his part to address the issues on the street. Christ didn’t have to deal with these street drugs 2000 years ago, but probably very little has changed about human nature, except for the power in manufacturing consent and manipulation through systematic repetition and industrial level propaganda.
Protecting the children is far more important than judging people by marriages that went south.
Why do we always blame the man?
Women are just as capable of lying, cheating and stealing.
Are his children drug addicts?
Are they functioning members of society?
I think a look back at infedelity will show you that’s it’s been happening just as long as people have had options.
The question is what does our country need to deal with its own issues.
Poverty, homelessness, never ending wars, children who drop out of school, who finish school unable to find a place in society.
No easy answer.
Oh, for heaven sake…why even try?
We’re not talking about Islam. We’re talking about Christianity. So Mohammed is not on the table here.
Moving along.
You can decide adultery is not a sin. That’s fine. But if you claim to be a Christian, you might question whether you really believe in Christianity. No skin off my nose. I’m not a Christian.
Why are you talking about pedophilia? Yes, I think it is worse than adultery. I think murder is worse than adultery, too. But we’re talking about whether or not there is evidence that Trump isn’t a good Christian not whether or not he is a pedophile or a murderer.
“Why do we always blame the man?”
We don’t.
We are blaming this man, Donald Trump, because there is no evidence his wives cheated on him and only evidence he cheated on them. They may have cheated on him but that isn’t the question before us.
I do agree with you that a much bigger question than Trump’s infidelity is what does our country need to do to deal with its issues. I personally think that someone can be a good president and be unfaithful to his wife. I don’t however think he can be a good Christian until he repents. And stays faithful. Which…uh…Trump has shown a marked inability to achieve in the past.
But then, I don’t think it is necessary to be a good Christian to be a good president either. But moral character as a whole is a great starting place for a good president and Trump has shown a marked lack of moral character. Point to me anything he does that shows moral character…
As to praying Trump keeps us out of war, this atheist hopes that Bearj’s prayers work. Because war’s another level of ugly I really don’t want to go to.
We are talking about a greater war starting in the autonomous region of
Kashmir that has been a hot bed of tension between India and Pakistan, ever since it was separated from India after WW2.
Nothing Trump has done will be the cause of an international war.
It’s quite possible, a civil war, because of unchecked , almost sanctioned aggression from Antifa, and the weaponizing of language, and the attack on free speech in the “public commons”.
Wars don’t happen because of one President, they are the result of years of a foreign policy that seeks to destabilize a region, initially through the use of proxy armies, especially in the middle east.
Geo PoliticAL Strategies are pretty well known if you study the details of historical conflicts.
I’m not trying to defend Trump as a husband, but I don’t understand the nuances of a shadow government, in the larger context, but I have learned that wars are used to change society.
When you spend Billions upon Billions creating, expanding, and maintaining
a war machine, that machine will be used.
The peaceful populations are largely irrelevant when it comes to world leaders and the never ending desire to expand power and consolidate influence.
It’s the kinds of things that are taught a PhD level programs in the elite universities and fine tuned in think tanks across the globe.
We rarely get full disclosure of the “Grand Chessboard”
As I said before, things always look different from space.
@10:50 without a reply link.
God does not call the qualified, He qualifies the called.
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone
andonandon.
” I am not a huge fan of these new red flag laws, however, as I think this nation needs guns to prevent other nations from attempting war on our soil. ”
~the NWO advances different ways, at different speeds, in different countries . . . but we are all marching steadily towards total domination by our rulers.
REMEMBER, there is no such thing as an arms race between China or Russia and the U.S. There is no competition between those countries against each other. They are all working to disarm us to CONTROL THEIR OWN PEOPLE. The race to disarm We, the People, is a race to control people, waged by corporate governments on their own people in the common cause of world domination.
This is NOT an arms race by governments to protect their own people against other ‘hostile’ countries.
~every field has its own specialized terminology and logic is no exception. Gun control, for example, isn’t over what “Policies” will best reduce gun violence, or how to interpret the Second Amendment.
The level of resistance is rooted in “fear of government power and control.” The issue then is whether (1) it’s reasonable to think that the Federal Government poses a threat to the American people, and (2) whether private gun ownership has an important role to play in mitigating or neutralizing that threat.
Actually Guest, I appreciate your articulate response into explaining your prospectives on supporting Trump. Too often, it’s a yes he is, no he’s not on and on and on.. I definitely think Trump has a very sharp tongue, and if he would have put more thought and effort into his communications, actually he probably would have won by a landslide.. but I am actually glad he voiced his true opinions, because now the public can see him for who he truely is… for better or worse.. I do think Trump used racially and otherwise divisive language to go viral.. and I find that distasteful..
And when Hillary rebuted with anything, it was like “Oh my, I can’t beilive she said that..” I am not a big Hillary supporter.. personally… But I am definitely also not a fan of Trumps language either.. Me personally, I want to hear reasoning behind other ways of thinking.. It’s just difficult to hear thru a lot of Trumps language and division tactics…at least it is for me..
I second Guest’s articulate posts.
Small Fry, rumor has it that we will all know why he’s been so forthright, and I suppose, crude, once the unredacted documents and transcripts are fully released. They have been slow walking the releases to date, to give people time to adjust, but an avalanche is expected, by many, to arrive.
Come to think of it, here’s one of the releases. Be sure to read pages 24-26, then ask yourself why the media said the opposite.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250478-Giuffre-Exhibits.html
Who is the last president to not take a salary?
I’m still trying to understand how Obama bought his DC home for 8mil, when his salary was just under 500k/year.
Oh yeah, that 50plus million book deal /pay off.
They are all working for someone who wants something.
When was the last time the American people truly stepped forward in life under a Democrat or a rebublican?
Taxes for everything, on everything, and fees, and licenses, and so on and so on…
Ever get the feeling it’s just a pendulum swing that hits us up side the head in every election cycle?
#OPTOUT
#OWNGOAL
“Who is the last president to not take a salary?”
Thomas Jefferson.
Trump literally says he “loves getting even with people.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuoRRDtdHbY
#ratrace
We are not talking about whether or not I hate President Trump. I’m simply saying that Guest’s comment, “He apparently does not take revenge” is incorrect.
In the end, Guest is siding with a bumbling misogynistic racist, because the people are upset a bumbling misogynistic racist is in the office.
It’s quite absurd.
And Guest is only helping to normalize white nationalism and rape culture.
I was wrong to say that. I thought so because I have seen him swing 180% from insulting to praising in order to get something done. I did not think about when or why that happens.
” Figures like Res and O’Brien see a cold calculation.
“He could turn around in one second if it was to his benefit to not feud,” Res said.
O’Brien argued that reconciliations tend to happen with Trump only when, in the first place, “he has gone into battle with people who have a mutual interest with him. Lindsey Graham is a classic example. Lindsey Graham is finding it difficult to tell Donald Trump that it’s wrong to demean the reputation and legacy of his best friend, John McCain.”
In O’Brien’s view, “If Trump can get political or financial gain from making up, he can make up. But there’s a pretty small universe of people of whom that’s true.”
If there is no need to work with someone for something he wants, he can seemingly hang onto grudges indefinitely. If only in words if the opportunity arises, not in cold blood revenge of action. I can’t think of any example of his plotting to exact revenge. But I doubt he would pass up an opportunity to do dirt on someone in passing.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435224-the-memo-trump-cant-let-go-of-mccain-grudge
hahaha, no wonder the neoCons and the left hate him. Fear breeds hate.
I know what you did last summer. bwaahahahaa
Yes, I find President Trump’s behavior towards someone that I often disagreed with but still admired, John McCain, as one of the things that is difficult for me to overlook.
Then go back to McCain’s presidential campaign to check on the invective heaped upon him by liberals. https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/democrat-hypocrisy-love-john-mccain-one-savage-cartoon
“Civil rights icon and Georgia congressman John Lewis is accusing John McCain and Sarah Palin of stoking hate, likening the atmosphere at Republican campaign events to those featuring George Wallace, the segregationist former governor of Alabama and presidential candidate. McCain’s campaign has responded with a statement in the candidate’s name, urging Barack Obama to repudiate Lewis’s comments.” Well, he didn’t exactly do that, now did he… https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/oct/15/john-mccain/obama-disagreed-but-didnt-criticize/
You don’t think that Trump’s style of rhetoric sprung magically into existence was his own creation, do you? The creation of nasty hyperbole was the raison d’être of the press in that campaign and no pious retooling of their vicious rhetoric now changes that. The minute Barak Obama was draped with the mantle of The Hero of the Liberal Superiority, the defense of ever particle of his politics turned rabid and hateful. Luckily for us, he was no Hitler because the liberals would have certainly turned over every power to him in their thinking their Biblical millenium had arrived.
Your statement reminds me of when I talk to a kid about doing something wrong and they want to talk about how everyone else does wrong things, too…
That is my line to pot growers and users that always trot out some unconnected wrong that they seem to feel excuses their wrong.
In this case, which is not unconnected, I admit it is a bad idea but I’m not excusing it. I rejoice that, until liberals acknowledge that they continue to do just what they say they despise in Trump and stop, Trump is going to see they are going to have to take what they dish out.
Liberals insisted on doing it, and refuse to accept their own responsibility for it (as you are now doing, turning to a strawman personal attack) , Trump is the only defense for something that liberal perpetrators refuse to stop. Let me know when you are willing to object to such rhetoric from everyone, left or right, and I’ll join you.
BTW I’m not your child to be subject to your lectures on my principles, you’re the one who keeps bringing what someone else (Trump) does and countering your personal criticism of my acceptance of Trump’s verbage by saying you should do as you say and condemn liberal demagoguery with equal verve is reasonable. I’m not required to be a punching bag.
Let’s be clear. Liberals sometimes do bad things. Conservatives sometimes do bad things. I was talking about Trump doing something I feel is wrong. And then you started pointing out that other people do wrong things.
…
Yes, other people do wrong things.
Other people are not president now.
Also, please stop pretending all liberals are responsible for all things that other liberals do. We aren’t. Just as all conservatives are not responsible for Trump’s behavior.
BTW, you lecture me continually…
Why, yes I do lecture continually. Or at least frequently. Rarely though calling anyone childish, stupid, racist, or anything more personal than pointing out inconsistencies or irrationality. But people do find that irritating, preferring to keep their jenga like belief constructions intact. The pulling out of irrational ideas destablizes that construct, at least among anyone who prides themselves that what they believe makes sense.
It is impossible to discuss bad communication skills, a group activity, without talking about more than one person. And in fact, since communication implies having already said something, the history of that communication is impossible to ignore. Sorry but why I refuse to be beaten into saying Trump is simply egregiously awful is because of the recent (Obama’s administration was just before Trump’s election after all) is intimately tied with liberal activity. Their invective, bullying, self righteous speech lead to them imposing actual damage to everyone. Remember the green rush that happened right after Obama announced that “his” DOJ would no longer pursue prosecution in states that had medical marijuana laws or the now infamous “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor” that was followed by Pelosi’s equally infamous ” we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.” Something cannot be ignored just because you don’t like the comparison. If we are really interested in effective communication, you don’t get to be the only one deciding what can be said.
Yes both liberals and conservative sometimes do bad things, which they will continue to do unless they have enough respect for each other to listen. This “conversation” has gone from “Trump is awful” to giving the example of McCain as proof of Trump’s great awfulness to saying that I don’t get to offer examples of people who you think are not awful doing the same thing. And you don’t think that is a pretty good microcosm of what someone might seeas the whole problem?
Is that you Don Jr. ??
“The left doesn’t notice that insulting didn’t work”. Really? Your man Trump is all about insulting, actually every time he opens his mouth he’s insulting someone. He wears his insecurities on his sleeve, his immature grievances pile up like the 1%s tax savings. He can’t cobble together a coherent sentence and where the hell is our First Lady? The most do-nothing lazy arm candy First Lady in history. Be Best, the joke of all time considering her husband. Wonder how it feels with all of his public infidelities? Maybe it’s a tradeoff, exchange to live in the lap of luxury and have an anchor baby and chain migrate her parents.
Grifters, all of them. We have a crime family running the country, the swampiest administration ever. The most inept, bigoted jackass is running this country, propped up by fearful whites. It’s the most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen in my life.
Every insult you think you are spewing is exactly why Trump exists. You think those insults should be what’s important to those who support him when the demonstration of frustrated spew delights them and is just giving more surety to them that they backed the right candidate. It may will end tragically. It is balanced on a knife edge but for now the fact that he causes people hateful to America to froth at the mouth in frustration makes him a hero. The most unlikely, least attractive hero in history I agree but a hero none the less.
No, Trump exists because of scared white insecure people.
Yes he does. Which should give pause to those who seek amp up that fear because it makes them,as the little people they are, feel powerful. But keep at it. Trump would lose if not for the hatefulness. Of course there is the argument that without the hatefulness Trump would not be wanted.
These people don’t look so scared,… nor white.
https://twitter.com/MoniqueWorthy/status/1159207691908050944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYqCQy7fvFw
Those are just a few out of the millions of examples I could post, but sometimes one has to seek the truths on their own. Have fun.
Fear of what is the issue, not personal courage. What I want is a self reliant, independent population who can take pride in being a productive citizen. If that is undermined by the ugly combination of greed, hate and stupidity, I fear for the future survival of a way of government that allowed so many to succeed.
You think every civilian should be equally dirt poor while every politician is filthy rich?
This guy sings the perfect song that makes your trype sound oh so sexy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GkKREZFKjk&list=PLj18_9lb6b0CoV6IFGP6JxgWhfqeTw1HN
You think people aren’t motivated by fear?
Try walking away from everything that is familiar to you.
Your job.
Your Family.
Your community.
Your country.
See how much different your own comfort zone changes when you remove familiarity.
You, shak and Central are all prime examples of motivated by fear.
Monsanto, Vaccines, lasers, sheriff duties….all your comments are fear based.
You Are sorely underestimating what Monsanto is doing to the ancient seed stock.
Most of your responses are based upon ignorance.
I’ve tried to help you with that.
Peaceful populations are irrelevant, and so are you.
Hero,😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😄😄😄😄😂😂😂😂🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
That is the most hilarious thing I’ve heard in months!!!!!
Yeah sure is right.
Though if I could be better at suffering idiots, I’d try to be composed like Michelle O.
What the heck are you saying here:
but for now the fact that he causes people hateful to America to froth at the mouth in frustration makes him a hero
You think that people that are critical of Trump are “hateful to America”?
People who are critical are not the issue. I have yet to see one post where someone takes a policy or action of Trump (a real one, not a CNN pundit’s comment) and analyze it at all. What people are doing here is just as poor at understanding as the people saying “Build that wall.” It is not meant to offer enlightenment or ever a reason. They offer emotional- and hateful- slogans and insults. That is not being a mob, not a critic. It attacks without anything, having long ago given up reason.
You are the biggest hypocrite posting here.
Look, I’m a local reporter not covering national news but here is a great reason to be skeptical of Trump’s commitment to helping anyone. https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-business-plan-left-a-trail-of-unpaid-bills-1465504454
Any business person I knew that used these tactics is someone I would not patronize let alone support for president.
that is obviously a one sided article. i dont pay for wsj so i didnt read it. guest was saying to analyze it, did you look into why he didnt pay those people? maybe he did pay them and they demanded more and he said no. maybe they didnt do the job to the extent of the contract (like a shitty job) and he didnt want to pay for sub par (he does have a reputation for his quality). there could be a lot of reasons not to pay someone
The WSJ is a conservative leaning news organization with a stellar reputation that I do pay for because it is excellent. I don’t know how you can say it is one sided and then say you didn’t read it….How do you know?
In the article, Trump’s own former employees talk about how they went behind his back to stop him from screwing people.
“Mr. Trump pushed the approach beyond construction and into day-to-day casino operations, said Jack O’Donnell, president of Mr. Trump’s Plaza casino in Atlantic City in the late 1980s. “Part of how he did business as a philosophy was to negotiate the best price he could. And then when it came time to pay the bills,” he said, Mr. Trump would say that “ ‘I’m going to pay you but I’m going to pay you 75% of what we agreed to.’ “In our business it’s very difficult to operate that way. You’re dealing with people on an ongoing basis. Every time you order with them you can’t screw them because they won’t be your suppliers anymore,” Mr. O’Donnell said. Executives at the casino paid vendors fully despite Mr. Trump’s directives, he said, and “it used to infuriate him.”
see there is a little bit of light right there “if we didnt pay them they would come back and work for us again” (in my paraphrase) so by them coming back after being paid 75% that proves that they were only worth 75% and the other little bit that i read into is if Trump screwed them why didnt they sue him and win? plus nobody is perfect, everybody makes mistakes
i didnt have to read it because of the fact that if he did something wrong and got sued and then lost, that would have been the headline. big business is a brutal thing and you have to be ready to play hardball so that is not a bad character trait for his job title
Conservative or NeoCon?
It’s not rated ‘stellar’ in any of the groups I’ve been following in order to understand their stances.
Maybe, Kym, a good reason we have the candidates we have is because precisely the system of government and corporations that fund the political spectrum. Most good people who get torn apart at the seams, during the vetting and mud slinging process we call elections.
When the SCOTUS allowed foreign campaign contributions, it was destined to be a money show.
I’m not particularly fond of the left right paradigm, but both sidea have done irreparable harm.
Selling our manufacturing base years ago, made China a very wealthy communist threat to our stability.
If people could deal with issues more rationally, we would have a better idea of the racket the two party system truly is.
#root cause
Very true. The two party circus in America is brutal…
Rationality, is rarely on the menu…
Google “how cutthroat is the New York real estate market” then get back to me. I couldn’t read the linked article but they certainly oppsed him- ” The Journal is typically more favorable to Republican candidates who take positions that benefit business and commerce, but the paper has been strongly critical of Trump for his proposals on illegal immigration and international free trade” as dangerous go their business as usual even if it screws over the American worker ideal. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wall-street-journal-hints-it-will-reconsider-2016-endorsement
This has become so deja vu. I remember researching who was in private fund raising meetings with business interests during the primaries. Guess who was the only one not involved in the lobbyist meetings with people they publicly despised? It wasn’t Clinton, Cruz or any of the usual crowd. They were all busy as little bees making promises that were in opposition to their public stances, but you had to research the journal trade magazines to find that out. And that was the public meetings. I shudder to think what went on in the really private ones. The national press was totally silent about this.
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You know I was dead set against trump winning, I thought Bernie might be the lesser of three evils, but know after seeing what this world has become In favor of a meteoroid.
I don’t believe that for one second…
ANYBODY who s t i l l beLIEves that whomever is wearing the commercial corporate clown hat in the District of Criminals makes any difference whatsoever, then yeah, perhaps a meteoroid is in order.
Speaking of no coherent thought, you think maybe you Trumpers could chip in and get Trump some adult education. Not a coherent sentence comes out of his mouth. Oh, he tries, it’s so pathetic and cringe worthy. But, that’s your man, all 350 pounds of him.
We probably paid for yours…
Most Californians today cant live without government assistance.
The rest of us have a backbone!
Remember
Hitler was a socialist.
If Hitler was alive and here today….
He’d vote democrat.
I love how you like to appear as if you’re above the fray. Like you picture yourself as this classy commenter. But the veneer is oh so thin, and, I see you in there… Ugh
It’s not hard to be above the fray when the person insulting you only uses trump references, but I’m not even a trump supporter. So yeah if your the fray then, he’ll yeah I’m above it. At least have a rational complaint. I hated the people that ragged on Obama for no reason the same way I dislike you rantin about the presidents weight and every other thing that is irrelevant to make it seem like you have a clue.
CNN is trash. That is a fact. The cooking channel has better ratings. They have blown it so hard they will never make it back up. Trumps a racist Russia collusion. What a joke Trumps like hitler. Are you kidding. Even my 12 year old daughter knows how pathetic the left is. You Democrats keep it up you’ll never win again. Your definitely losing this next on😂😂😂😂I laugh at all you sore losers that keep crying. Your really pathetic. It is actually such a joke now to the majority of people and you keep going lol😂😂🤪🤪🤪winner won loser lost☠️
Then why aren’t CNN anchors being forced into “vacations”?
They will never get it. This whole presidency and the people that support it are like Trump, caught in a round house and can’t get cornered. All I can tell myself is that it will be over some day.
Yes, yes you can. And don’t worry it will be over, just 4 more years. Unless Ivanka becomes the first woman President of course.
Lifeisshort
Why do we have to mention their race? And do they only use dogs to capture suspects when they are “Hispanic “
hey i dont know if i told u before but i never watched fox news before someone (maybe you) said fox news is the reason Trump won. and mre importantly when you call someone orange you are referring to their race, then when you go on to make fun of their race that makes you a racist
repeat… you are a racist
🕯🌳Huh dirty laundry seems to hang up around here along time. Like a dart board.
Note that’s not a trinity county dog. Do you know why? Trinity sheriffs have killed the last 2 they had
Trinity County K9 “Johnny” says in the article
🕯🌳This thread is so good it’s up twice.
Actually , the majority is against Trump. He’s got his little base that laps up his fear mongering and bolsters their insecurities about the unstoppable demographic changes in the US. There are a lot of frightened whites out there that are losing their sense of self. It really is sad that his platform is all about soothing those fears. He is only the President for his base, he isn’t interested in anyone else. You are deluded if you think a man that shits in gold toilet gives a crap about you and your every day life.
Trump is and has been interested in one thing his whole life- Money and Sex.
Lol same old argument s again socialism. Canada has free health care. What about our military funding? They are funded by a socialist concept? We as a society spend 60 cents on every dollar on our military. Presidential debates need to exist with more than 15 seconds of dialogue from the candidates. Most Trump supporters support the one line catch phrases as a complete understand ing of the complex topics. Sorry we love you but c’mon grow a pair. No courage in our society anymore.
No, 70% of our money funds social causes from Social Security to Veterans benefits and housing subsidies. Of the remaining 30% that is discretionary, the military takes up about 60%. https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/
So military spending is less than 20%. And if you looked, Trump has been trying to reduce the proportion by getting Europe to spend more of their own money for their own defense and reducing the perpetual war in Afghanistan. Not that he has been all that successful at swimming against the military lobbying machine. He finds the military’s sales pitch of love of country hard to resist when they come asking for more.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/19/u-s-military-budget-inches-closer-to-1-trillion-mark-as-concerns-over-federal-deficit-grow/?noredirect=on
The debates are a joke, I agree.
Gosh darn man, give it a rest already? This article isn’t about the Pres. You might burst an artery or something. I can feel how purple in the face you are from what you write. Chiil out before you have an aneurysm, really man, its not good for your health
Actually you lost. 😂😂😂we are the majority 😂👍👍Trump will win again I garentee it.keep pulling race cards on everything and bash white men you will always be the loser. We are all equal no race. Your just the loser. 😂😂😂better quit the race shit or you’ll regret it That was the biggest mistake of Democrats. Most likely never come out of this. You Democrats really messed up😂😂😂
What a disappointing headline.
What about the rest of the divisive rhetoric? Nothing said about sexual preference, religion, political bias, policy stances,
… and so on.
In all seriousness though, ANYBODY growing on PUBLIC property is an a$$hole and deserves to be captured, no matter their ‘race’.
Speaking of race, why is the ‘place of origin’ the important part of the headline? Documented, undocumented, legal or illegal, … would shed light… but ‘race’? Get real. Get over it. Yawn.
i didnt think it to be about race. i thought it was about an organization from a different country coming here to grow weed in our country and most likely taking the profits back to their country somehow
That’s a decent explanation. You’ve shared where the money is made and where it will go to. Thanks for the input.
Oh hey, they’re talking about me in the loco Weather Trump thread. As Connie says, thanks for the plug!!
They should take all those agencies and smart people to places like Garberville if they want to see thousands of pounds of garbage. Those transients really know how to live
Sad, but true.
Bout 4 or 5 F16s or F18s just flew 36. Followed shortly after by a blue and white chopper. Wonder if chump and logger are going to get their wish. Maybe the nat’l guard and sheriff decided the Pines and Rancho should get carpet bombed. It would be faster, easier, and save us tax payers money.
In my 1911 trust,
~so, you had power today @11:28. I didn’t. I too noted the loud jets – F16s or F18s, and the chopper. About an hour later, the planes roared back over again – seemingly, returning from wherever they came from.
Shak got it right, people that do sh***y things are a$$holes regardless of race, color, sexual preference,religion, etc…and people from each and all have both good people and a$$holes.
Dam straight.
What could u all do with the time you spend writing all these dumb sh*t comments? Probaly nothing of any value…. our opinions matter only to ourselves, if u think u matter even for a Second then just stop and see if anyone even notices
Nazis
The Socialist Party of Germany
Equals
Democrats
The Socialist Party of California
Hitler was a Xenophobe Nationalist.
He said he would destroy socialism and communism.
He also hated free media.
Your waaaay off on your comparisons.
We both know where more than half of the brains of the scientific community went.
#Operation Paperclip
#Balfour Agreement
If you can’t see the change in the Democratic Party, you might be too young to fully understand…
Meet Hendricus G. Loos
https://healthfoodsoul.com/patents-for-mind-control/
Hitler actually ran the “National Socialist” party… Their economy blew up and he rose to power.
There was nothing Socialist about it.
“I will take their socialism and I will crush it” Hitler, 1929
Learn about it.
Definition of socialist- “any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods”. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism. One of the primary aspects of socialism is that it wants to control the means of production in opposition to individual enterprise. So by that standard, Nazi’s were socialists.
However the goal of their socialism was to remove non white Germanic people from control of manufacturing and production. They did that with ruthless relentlessness. They felt that non “Aryan” business owners- mostly Jews- used the power of ownership to abuse Germans. That did not mean that they took over businesses and ran them for the good of the State. They just used their power to ensure that the owners were of the right race and supplied the State what it wanted. But the profits were the business owner’s, not the people’s.
Of course socialists don’t like that ugly equivalency. They insist that their socialist goal is to make the benefit go to the State to be then distibuted to the people. That it almost always fails to so does not mean that is not the ideal.
But both had the same operating procedure- don’t let people make their own choices and see to it the State is in control.
BTW I could find no such quote by Hitler. Context is needed.
Sorry Guest,
Sometimes I think people have seen all the links I’ve posted before.
The Hitler/Socialist fallacy has been brought up many times, I’ve relinked to my original back and forth with Ullr.
Here:
https://kymkemp.com/2019/02/27/huffman-and-wood-heard-from-humboldt-and-talked-about-governor-newsom-sending-the-national-guard-north-to-go-after-illegal-cannabis-farms/#comment-786539
I misremembered the quote and date.
It was 1923, an interview with George Sylvester Viereck.
The correct quote:
“I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.”
And
“Our socialism is National”
But read the thread link for a good back and forth between Ullr and I.
Capitalism is the immoral distribution of capital… Germany will become free at that moment when the thirty millions on the left and the thirty millions on the right make common cause. Only one movement is capable of doing this: National Socialism, embodied in one Führer – Adolf Hitler.
Goebbels’ “Lenin or Hitler” speech first delivered on September 17, 1925
“We are not a charitable institution but a Party of revolutionary socialists.”
“Einbeitsfront,” Der Angriff editorial, May 27, 1929. David Schoenbaum, Hitler’s Social Revolution: Class and Status in Nazi Germany, 1933-1939, W.W. Norton & Company (1997) p. 25
“We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism! We are against Marxism, but for true socialism! We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature! We are for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party!”
Written by Joseph Goebbels and Mjölnir, Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (Munich: Verlag Frz. Eher, 1932)
Ullr,
While socialist ideals existed in fragmented personas in the NAZI party, Hitler was no socialist.
This is what many commentors have said and or eluded to.
Hitler was a Nationalist Xenophobe.
Goebbels saying “Hitler” while associating “socialism” in a pro-German speech is rhetoric.
We know how you blow off Trumps rhetoric. Somehow Goebbels means something?
The Germans, who had been socialist before Hitlers rise, obviously were emboldened and supportive of this in ideology.
And Hitler needed their support to wage war, hold prisoner camps and commit heinous acts in the name of “Germany”.
In the end Hitler was an anti-social anti-communist Nationalist Xenophobe.
It simply is not accurate to associate him or the NAZI legacy with AOC or Bernie, or whatever.
The best comparison by far to Hitler is Trump.
Not in legacy, but in Nationalist xenophobic rhetoric.
Here. The above are my own words. But after writing, I did some reading. Look around:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=5ONQXb2wBMGQtAa_24_oBw&q=was+hitler+a+socialist+&oq=was+hitler+a+socialist+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-hp.12..35i39l8.2658.10832..12988…1.0..0.0.0…….0….1…….8._mGr_yFzXQI
First, snopes is a crap source.
Goebbels believed his rhetoric. That is evident in his diary entries.
I’ve never drawn comparisons between any modern politician and the Nazi Socialist party. I’ve only pointed out that the Nazi leaders most definitely saw themselves as socialist doing the greater good for Deutchland. It is a dangerous mindset to have the hubris to assume to know what is best for everyone.
Hear hear
Oh. Snopes is fake.
But you still can only point to Goebbals as the highest in the NAZI party to spew socialists rhetoric.
I gave you links to Google searches in case what I thought you would do was done: call snopes fake.
Your funny.
Goebbals wanted socialism, cool, he didnt get it. And apparently neither do you.
You always point to how Trumps rhetoric is not Trumps policies.
Yet here you are, ignoring policies and focusing on lower than President ( or Fuhrer) rhetoric.
Funny how picky and choosy for your belief your getting.
I didn’t call Snopes “fake”. I called it crap. They use a very narrow set of information sources to determine “truth”.
The links you gave me are psuedo-intellectuals using modern conceptions of political dualism to justify their arguments. This is a narrow lense and obviously not how the Nazi’s saw the world.
I’m using quotes from the actual politicians trying to create their policy.
And you failed to critique Hitler and his quote I posted. I’m pretty sure he was high up in the Nazi party.
Hitler’s full quote:
“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one.”
Another quote from Hitler:
“Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.”
“Why We Are Anti-Semites,” August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus. Speech also known as “Why Are We Anti-Semites?” Translated from Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 16. Jahrg., 4. H. (Oct., 1968), pp. 390-420. Edited by Carolyn Yeager.
“Goebbals wanted socialism, cool, he didnt get it. And apparently neither do you.”
This is the kind of remark that make “The real trauma ” look like a man child.
It’s one thing to challenge ideas and test philosophies, but the sophomoric taunts are why no one cares what he says.
Actually, I tried to edit that out, with respect to Ullr.
I didnt get to it in time. Hence my second comment with more info from the Jewish Library.
Either way, Hitler was a right wing conservative xenophobic nutjob.
Like Trump!
But Trump could never be a Hitler
Hitler knew how to command language.
Trump…well, he makes America rake again.
Ullr,
The man was good with words.
In the speech he says:
” We are not Internationalists”
Well, I guess if he believed all of the world rightfully belonged to the Germanic Aryan race, he was right.
But again, he is only pointing to Nationalism over and over.
I think you see him as a socialist with Nationalist rhetoric.
But I see him as a Nationalist with socialist rhetoric.
If Snopes is weak-sauce, then consider this perspective of Jewish origin.
In April, 1920, Hitler advocated that the party should change its name to the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). Hitler had always been hostile to socialist ideas, especially those that involved racial or sexual equality. However, socialism was a popular political philosophy in Germany after the First World War. This was reflected in the growth in the German Social Democrat Party (SDP), the largest political party in Germany.
Hitler, therefore redefined socialism by placing the word ‘National’ before it. He claimed he was only in favour of equality for those who had “German blood.” Jews and other “aliens” would lose their rights of citizenship, and immigration of non-Germans should be brought to an end.
In February 1920, the NSDAP published its first programme which became known as the “Twenty-Five Points.” In the programme the party refused to accept the terms of the Versailles Treaty and called for the reunification of all German people. To reinforce their ideas on nationalism, equal rights were only to be given to German citizens. “Foreigners” and “aliens” would be denied these rights.
To appeal to the working class and socialists, the programme included several measures that would redistribute income and war profits, profit-sharing in large industries, nationalization of trusts, increases in old-age pensions and free education.
On February 24, 1920, the NSDAP (later nicknamed the Nazi Party) held a mass rally where it announced its new programme. The rally was attended by over 2,000 people, a great improvement on the 25 people who were at Hitler’sfirst party meeting.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-of-the-nazi-party-nsdap
And here’s the 25 points;
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm
More from The Jewish Library;
Hitler’s stormtroopers were often former members of the Freikorps (right-wing private armies who flourished during the period that followed the First World War) and had considerable experience in using violence against their rivals.
The SA wore grey jackets, brown shirts (khaki shirts originally intended for soldiers in Africa but purchased in bulk from the German Army by the Nazi Party), swastika armbands, ski-caps, knee-breeches, thick woolen socks and combat boots. Accompanied by bands of musicians and carrying swastika flags, they would parade through the streets of Munich. At the end of the march Hitler would make one of his passionate speeches that encouraged his supporters to carry out acts of violence against Jews and his left-wing political opponents.
As this violence was often directed against Socialists and Communists, the local right-wing Bavarian government did not take action against the Nazi Party.
However, the national government in Berlin were concerned and passed a “Law for the Protection of the Republic.” Hitler’s response was to organize a rally attended by 40,000 people. At the meeting Hitler called for the overthrow of the German government and even suggested that its leaders should be executed.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-of-the-nazi-party-nsdap
I totally agree with you TRB, Hitler was not a Socialist.. he would have sent every last “socialist” to the death camps.. It’s complete Double Speak! Hitler had one Adgenda, world domination! What ever fake promises he could offer to people to promote his deadly hell bent Adgenda, he would use..
Thanks, SF.
I appreciate you looking at everything and forming your own conclusions regardless.
Ullr,
What say you?
I’m just going to say it for Ullr.
“Gee kid, you were right.
Hitler is no socialist.”
Thanks Ullr, its been great debating with you.
You’re not interested in debating. You only want to establish a bully pulpit.
To pretend the lense you look through now is the same view that people had in the Weimar Republic is extremely ignorant.
I don’t know how the Nazi’s were thinking and neither do you. By their own words the establishment of a social economic system was paramount in their policy… hence socialism. The beneficiaries of this plan were only those they deemed worthy… hence the nationalism.
Call it what you want; it doesn’t really matter.
Y.W. TRB.. THX..Regardless, You said it! Hitler was a RWCXNJ..Case closed.. that’s one for the archives..
The Jews say he was anti-socialist!
C’mon!
Socialism does not discriminate on race, bloodlines or Aryan only Economics, Nationalism does.
Hence, not socialists.
The reality of Weimar Republic, post ww1 Europe, and the rise of the NAZI party is well documented.
You saying its impossible to understand is coping out of a losing argument.
I’ve given you so much, and all you give is the rhetoric to which was used by NAZIs to gain power.
Its hypocritical of you to do that because you you refuse to apply Trumps rhetoric to him.
It’s also wrong of you to do this in both cases because it’s important to know what rhetoric is, how it’s used, and why.
I have no idea what this has to do with Trump.
By definition socialism includes a centralized, controlled economy. Nothing in that definition has anything to do with inclusion by race, gender or any other group identity you want to come up with.
You are stuck in a false dualism. I don’t see the world in right vs left. Don’t get me wrong, I understand where you are coming from, but you refuse to breach the gap and reciprocate.
If it makes you feel better I concede you are correct if you base your POV on preconceived parameters of political ideologies.
Ullr,
I also try to live free of left or right paradigms.
But that doesn’t negate the reality that there is a paradigm, any many adhere to and follow it.
Hitler has nothing to do with Trump.
Hitler also has nothing to do with Democrats of America.
I know you yourself did not make the comparison, but that was what I replied to.
It’s a common theme with Nationalists in America, to call Democrats Nazi-socialists.
So again, the left right paradigm exists more so than ever, or at least it’s very strong.
I appreciate your conceding what you did.
I’m sorry for being a “bully”.
It’s hard to keep my composure and be rational while trying to educate, help or laugh at the laser crew as much as I do.
I am sincerely sorry to you for my attitude.
https://youtu.be/m6bSsaVL6gA
I’m sure this is a wasted effort, but if anybody is still weeding through this dialogue here is a short video on the socialist roots of fascism.
Your modus operandi Brian is to attack the messenger. If you have a critique of the message I am happy to hear it.
Your mistaken.
I don’t shoot messengers.
I shoot charlatans.
More on Dinesh Dsouza;
https://theweek.com/speedreads/858426/dinesh-dsouza-tried-use-time-behind-bars-bolster-epstein-conspiracy-theory-failed
https://www.newsweek.com/dinesh-dsouza-global-warming-doesnt-exist-snows-southern-hemisphere-1453890
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D%27Souza
Like I said, your modus operandi. How about address the message? Here’s what Giovanni Gentile (credited with the founding philosophy of fascism if you chose not to watch the video) had to say:
“It is necessary to distinguish between socialism and socialism—in fact, between idea and idea of the same socialist conception, in order to distinguish among them those that are inimical to Fascism. It is well known that Sorellian syndicalism, out of which the thought and the political method of Fascism emerged—conceived itself the genuine interpretation of Marxist communism. The dynamic conception of history, in which force as violence functions as an essential, is of unquestioned Marxist origin. Those notions flowed into other currents of contemporary thought, that have themselves, via alternative routes, arrived at a vindication of the form of State—implacable, but absolutely rational—that finds historic necessity in the very spiritual dynamism through which it realizes itself.”
Che cosa è il fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche (“What is Fascism?”), Florence: Vallecchi, (1925) pp. 42-45, 47-48, 49-51, 56,Origins and Doctrine of Fascism, A. James Gregor, translator and editor, Transaction Publishers, 2003, p. 59
Perhaps you can dig up some controversy on A. James Gregor.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2707846?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
I find the debates I’ve been involved with exhausting.
I dont wish to carry on further into the roots of fascism – just yet.
Maybe Dinesh is right. I’m sure a lot of what he is saying has degrees of accuracy.
Regarding messengers, I feel it’s ever more important to know the background of those who give it.
He was just released from prison for fraud or tax BS…
He has a slant, his next video on queue was “How the left ruins everything”.
I would not run with the opposite of that statement, personally.
But I’m a factualist.
No results found for “I will take their socialism and I will crush it”.
~this doesn’t have anything to do with color or a puppet master, but rather LAND. With no power all day (to Replace ONE power pole –sure, ah ha, right), i read Fruit From A Poisonous Tree by Melvin Stamper -he was a U.S. Marine, with many, many other qualifications.
I can’t say enough good about this book. On page 56, quoting Melvin Stamper: The La Paz portion of the NAFTA agreement provides for the forfeiture of a thirty-mile wide strip of American soil to a foreign power (UN) across the entire 1,935 miles of border between Mexico and America. That’s more land than is contained in Rhode Island, Delaware, Connecticut, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Hawaii combined, constituting the single greatest act of treachery in the history of this nation.
He goes on to say – There is no provision in the Constitution for Congress, the President, or the Courts to surrender any portion of our national sovereignty to any foreign government.
Who can hold the military industrial complex accountable?
The best way foward is to step back and and try to untangle yourself from the tangled web.
I completely agree this world has been run by managers for the wealthy and powerful.
The simple solution CentHumcO…is too break the chains of modern life that keeps you tied to the system. This world has been manipulated and consent has been manufactured.
We don’t have the PR machine to fight their stranglehold, the only thing we can do is to choose not to comply, as you have graciously spent a lifetime learning, but from what I see, it’s more of a novelty than a reality for most people.
Thus is where I believe Home free people, who can’t afford a home have been challenging the governing officials to acknowledge that affording the modern day rat race is too much for some people, and that our laws, codes, and statutes have made lliving on this earth, the biggest pay to play racket ever seen.
Most people have submitted to system and what needs to be done is to make sure people have a safe place to stay if they can’t afford a permanent roof over their heads.
We are too busy dealing with the mainstream narrative to successfully deal with the human condition as it’s been manufactured by the ruling elites and their order followers.
“TAXES,DEATH, AND TROUBLE”
Who has time to undo thousands of years of experience in the control of populations.
FOLLOW THE MONEY.
QUI BONO.
OWN GOAL
“Who can hold the military industrial complex accountable?”
~good question. It’s pouring rain -at midnight – on August 10 – for Chrissakes! Manufactured sky becomes priority #1 –even over manufactured consent, the Matrix at it’s core.
True enough, the answers are within. Talkin economics (w/no real concept), isms, people/vehicle crunches, and pot, pot, pot raids is getting us nowhere fast. Not that it doesn’t bring the Triangle community together, it does. But, RAIN, now. Would be something to bottle it and take it to a lab.
It’s pouring rain -at midnight – on August 10 – for Chrissakes! Manufactured sky becomes priority #1 –even over manufactured consent, the Matrix at it’s core.
You dont have a good memory or research ability.
You cant even have a storm without thinking the Government is fucking you.
Ya. They made the weather in a lab, and wanted to give me a 5 day heads up on NOAA. Because that’s how the illuminatrix does.
You need serious help. I know you dont think so, but you are dangerous. Your fear and paranoia is sickening and frightening.
I hope to not read these hyper-paranoid fear-based comments in the future.
Oh. And Sid. Since you’ll no doubt comment with more ramblings about me attacking “truth seekers”, well, I’ll be ignoring you.
Rule #1 Do not insult other commenters. What part of that needs explained to you, TRB? Who died and made you King? Why do you beLIEve anyone in here cares about what TRB thinks about CH? You’re boring the sh!t out of me.
“Oh. And Sid. Since you’ll no doubt comment with more ramblings about me attacking “truth seekers”, well, I’ll be ignoring you.”
SCORE for Sid. Loss for TRB.
~there, you got attention TRB, that’s what you crave, isn’t i? [edit]
He is not calling you an asshole. That would be an insult. He’s saying look you have a problem where you believe in a false reality that makes no sense. People are allowed to point out fallacious thinking. You don’t have to like it. You can try and find facts to prove he’s wrong or you can ignore him. But he’s not insulting you–he’s criticizing you.
Really?
Please let’s do have your opinion on the words ‘liar’ and ‘hypocrite’.
Insult? Criticize?
Better yet, perhaps other commenters will waste their time feeding Brian, but, nevertheless, i wonder how many in here are sick-to-death of Brian’s rhetorical vomit?
“I hope you have friends who will slap you in the face w/open hand.” [paraphrased] <<that’s a threat. Round-about, but enough of a threat that you deleted it. THAT is dangerous, sickening and frightening –to me.
~not everyone, Kym, is comfortably numb w/an explanation of soft words.
I struggle myself with what to call what you do. When presented with overwhelming evidence that something is true, you cling to conspiracy theories. That means either you are mentally ill (you don’t like that) or you are lying (you don’t like that.)
As to being sick to death of Brian…well, I’ve had a number of people ask me to ban you. Yet you and Brian are both here.
There is no requirement that you label anyone.
I know my site would be better without CH’s wild speculations that have nothing or at least little to do with articles she doesn’t read.
I try to understand her to learn if I can help/if I have something to learn from her/if there is something that she offers the site that I am unclear on.
So yes, I believe passionately in this site and in free speech so there is a requirement to come up with a clear vision of CH and her impact on something I spend a lot of energy on daily.
Kym, seriously, as a reporter, what defines “fallacious thinking?”
Having the courage to speak truth to power is much more challenging than to criticize people who have been damaged by vaccines, who point out where deception has long been modus operandi.
Frankly your own belief system could be called into question if you understand how religion is often used as an opiate for the masses.
From what I understand is that you are now an Atheist.
This is an excellent way to understand how people can lose their religion while others can find it.
Point is, there are things that you may not want to believe, because if you did, you might just be responsible for that truth.
It’s impossible to validate every belief that everyone has, but there’s enough cold hard truth about the public private partnership, and the growing number of agencies who demand Permission and fees to warrant a sober look.
You obviously are busy juggling an incredible amount of daily local news, this keepa your focus on your community, but be careful with an ideology about Conspiracies, and those who are pointing them out.
Brian can choose to believe what ever he wants, I think it’s good to be critical of opinions when they can’t be validated with a simple URL.
There is a difference between a belief system and a historical precedent which has shown that our elected representatives are guided by a different set of truths.
“CLOSED SESSION”
“NATIONAL SECURITY”
I’ve given Enough information for people to make an informed judgement
You can believe what ever you want to believe.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/jeffrey-epstein-dead-apparent-suicide
How convenient for the many people who would be adversely affected if his story came out?
Your words or his?
Sounds like you just put words in his mouth Kym.
Or is that how you truly feel about people who talk about conspiracies?
https://thekingcenter.org/conspiracy-trial/
Again, I point to you, James Douglass, who was present during the entire month long civil trial, into the murder of MLK.
IT’S NO WONDER THE FBI WANTS TO VILIFY PEOPLE WHO TALK ABOUT CONSPIRACIES, and to think everything that was claimed from MLK’S death until 1999,….
was considered a “CONSPIRACY THEORY ” by the very same people who ran the MSM, and the Government.
You think they should have been labeled as “Fallacious thinkers “,
Or they believe in a false reality?
I’m sure this is exactly how the establishment wants those people who expose those “INCONVENIENT TRUTHS” so the general public knows what is being done in their name.
Does it really need to take 30, 50, 70 years for validation?
We should consider our deeply held beliefs, and not be afraid to point out the Evil that is masquerading as Good.
Epstein”s convenient suicide should confirm that he was more deeply connected than our comfort zones will allow.
I can say without a doubt that several of CH’s theories have been so discredited that she should admit error. She doesn’t.
You obviously see more than i.
Discredited is all in the eyes of the beholder. CH has never been discredited by any credible source. Ever.
CH is fun, sharp, curious, informational, confusing at times, and most of all, always willing to clarify any misunderstandings or confusions.
Have you ever tried asking for more detail or clarification? Reading the articles, court documents, or watching the videos she’s shared that you are holding court over?
Everyone’s been bringing up MLK lately, so I’ll just leave this here for now. I’m sure she’d be honored to be judged and tried by the ‘oh so credible’ sources here at your blog.
https://twitter.com/AlvedaCKing/status/1159471796149719040
Yes, I have taken a few tries at discussing facts with both you and CH. I also share a love of nature with her and was hopeful that she was just mistaken and when offered information from credible sources that showed she was mistaken she would say something like, “Oops, I was wrong there.” But she didn’t.
Here I laid out a few places she was wrong on something that has provable facts and I believe only once did she admit she was wrong. https://kymkemp.com/2019/06/30/cannabis-church-sues-county-and-cdfw-for-1st-14th-amendment-violations/#comment-830070
Trying to have a discussion with someone who doesn’t share the same sense of the rational is pointless.
I love nature as well!
https://youtu.be/daF8-GO9i5Q
Well she can speak for herself.
This is a fascinating look at the freshly “leaked” FBI DOCUMENT, and I thought it would be a great neutral voice when it comes to those who call people conspiracy theorists, and the way it’s been used to marginalize people who call out the government when they step across the line.
It’s 20 minutes, and well worth the time.
It will help you understand the situation that social media platforms are being used to censor that most important speech.
~gratitude, shak.
I don’t see a ‘reply’ after Kym’s 11:05 comment. I went to the link, but there’s a truckload of comments. Which one am i supposed to look at?
@CH @12:09
I haven’t a clue. All I saw was ‘you you you, I I I,”… not a smidgen of ‘trying’ in the sense that was promised us if we click on that link. Surprised? Me neither.
“Let that sink in for a moment; spying streetlamps are real and police have already requested video footage from more than 140 streetlamps.
Lt. Jeffery Jordon called spying streetlamps “game changing” and that is exactly how they should be viewed. Streetlamps that are designed to spy on the public, really is a game changer.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-09/san-diego-cops-used-streetlamps-spy-public-more-140-times
#SOME CONSPIRACIES ARE NOT THEORIES
“Zero Hedge an extreme right biased conspiracy website.”
Tyler Durden the name posted as the author is a character from a movie…
The actual streetlamp camera likely saved an innocent man from jail. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2019-08-04/san-diego-police-ramp-up-use-of-streetlamp-cameras-to-crack-cases-privacy-groups-raise-concerns
Any action in a public place is subject to being photographed as a person doesn’t have an expectation of privacy.
And I have zero idea why you are bringing this up in context with what I had to say.
“Zero Hedge an extreme right biased conspiracy website.”
It’s an independent news site. What does the extreme left or right have to do with TRUTH?
You have your bias Kym.
Obviously.
I just would like to see some objectivity , and not the simple left right paradigm that keeps people on either side unable to recognize real reporting.
I love small towns for farners markets and the sense of community. For national and world news, not so much.
I so appreciate your forum to exchange ideas, and I recognize that your awakening fromy religious dogma was precisely the evolution that can happen when you remove the chains of ideological positions.
You have said that you are open to new ideas that challenge your way of seeing the world.
That was beautiful to read. You still have your own comfort zone to deal with, and most of the things I point out are based on the knowledge of what my life long friends are doing inside the military industrial defense complex.
It’s called inside baseball, and the technology and the weapons systems being deployed against peaceful populations would make you sick to your stomach. That’s why you will never know unless you have lifelong friends on the inside, who make too much money building them.
We all need to laugh when we can. ….so….
Here’s George Carlin breaking it down for us.
https://youtu.be/AtgfzzwoyK4
Generally, if someone wants to convince me that something is true-don’t hide behind a fictional name–I want to know how you behave in real life. Be willing to stand behind what you say. That goes for you and for the guy that pretends to be from Fight Club.
Second if Media Bias Check goes with “extreme right biased conspiracy website”, I’m not going to waste my time which is precious to me trying to sort truth from fiction.
Third, if someone is going to throw out an idea that doesn’t make sense, then have lots of studies to back you up.
Fourth, why look for some wild theory to fit the facts when there is a simple explanation.
So, I’m open to new ideas but, I’m skeptical of ideas which don’t have people with solid reputations putting them on the line by backing them up.
Finally, speak to me in my language. Just like a Bible isn’t a good piece of literature to convince an atheist, an extreme right wing conspiracy site isn’t a good place to get information that will likely move my positions (Progressive with conservative underpinnings). Try the Wall Street Journal, scientific studies, even Forbes.
Well, we just may have to live with that.
I understand sometimes we just get set in our ways.
Sugar and Spice is a very tough thing to stop cold turkey.
Some people just aren’t built for the discomforting reality.
Sometimes I wish I could keep my head in the sand.
I think when you have kids, you realize it’s not about me, it’s what kind of world are we leaving them.
It’s bad enough parents deceive children about Santa Claus…the deception starts early, the key is to be true to yourself.
If you are happy with the BILLIONS SPENT ON WAR AND THE WAR MACHINE, then y/our children will have to deal with the consequences of that mentality…
Good night. Hope you enjoyed George Carlin, straight shot.
I fall into the same trap with the press. I want them to admit their errors and be more careful instead of tailoring their reporting to suit their personal opinion. The difference between CH and the media is that her opinions do not control what others think they know. It can be taken or left according to the readers. That is not true of of public media.
For example I saw an NBC reporter commenting on the recent immigration raid, saying that under the Trump adminstration, no employer has been held responsible for their part in employing illegals. The intend was to imply that only despicable Trump would not enforce the law when powerful people were involved while going after poor illegals. Listeners might reasonably assume this meant something significant whereas if the reporter said that Obama, Bush, Clintons, etc never prosecuted even the grossest violations of immigration law either, they would more likely understand the cause of our massive illegal immigration fiascos. In fact the last such raid before Trump was done by the first Bush’s administration and resulted in the press going into a feeding against Bush. In all the cases of clearly mass deliberate violations of immigration laws I know, never once in my experience has it resulted in the employer paying anything at all ever. Hiring illegals is, thanks to the press never exposing the ugly reality, is a win-win for employers.
Unlike many I saw the wages of those jobs drop immediately when union citizen workers were laid off and replaced by illegals getting half the wages and never filling workers comp claims or labor law violations. These displaced workers fell out of a middle class life, lost homes, couldn’t pay for their kids schooling. Because such employers are never prosecuted and held accountable, this wide spread practice offers more profits to the owners and cheaper products to the public. The price for this sweeping under the rug by politicians and a blind eye by the press and public is the loss of a middle class nationwide and a growth of the dependant citizen. But, oh no, that obvious problem is not going to be laid at the door of the politicians, Republican and Democrat alike. It’s going to be laid at the door of evil riches people who became rich by funding the campaigns of politicians allowing it.
Kym, this is a significant failure of the press and deserves much more attention than wrangling over what comments CH makes.
Guest,
The comments are the base of Trump.
Birtherism / Seth Rich / lasers / faked shootings/ agenda 21/ white nationalism.
The fucking President spits the same Bullshit.
Confronting CH and Shak and Sid and others is literally confronting the fringe right that has now become President.
So no, some anchor on MSNBC is not the priority.
Brian, I must have been in error before when I said corrections to comments that were held for moderation again. Either WordPress changed or I made a mistake before. If I’ve okay’d something and you make a correction, then the comment goes back into moderation.
What gives fodder to conspiracy theorists? What gives fodder to personality politicking? What gives fodder to both right and left leaning haters and spewers? Being given incorrect or slanted facts. As soon as the reporter of facts for public consumption is exposed as biased, both sides are encouraged to believe what is not in truth in evidence. Part truths are exceptionally well do this. The person already inclined to believe has their belief confirmed by the bit of truth involved and the ones inclined to disbelieve are equally convinced by the part of the truth left out.
So whole truth is much more important than any belief. The reporter, being the only one capable of not providing the fodder of the selective truth, has a moral obligation to do his best to do just that despite any personal desires. So I totally disagree with you. The reporter’s defects are infinitely more grievous than any opinions by private individuals. And it is worth the effort to opposethat tendency even when it bears a striking resemblance to the futility trying to change the mind of any other irrational thinking by presenting opposing facts. I am not ever going to fall off the edge of the flatearth unless they are actually correct but the distorting provider of “facts” can easily drags me over the edge of the local cliff.
Actually Guest, I see truth in your statements.. it is often a win-win for employers, and they are rarely held accountable.. buy any Party.. I think the issue is definitely very complex and it’s the easy path out to make broad sided soulutions. I just also think promoting racially divisive ideology and fear, isn’t necessarily adressing the underline issues, or working twards solutions..And is also coheret to promoting ideology of racial violence… I am also inherently oppposed to the methodology carried out by the Trump administration in regards to separating families.. and detention camps at the boarder.. that in my mind is absolutely immoral..
But yeah.. posting information, or perspectives isn’t going to drag someone over the edge of the flat earth.. Just like posting info. about climate change isn’t going to stop the next major Hurricane…
I agree with a lot of what your saying.
However, your ignoring that the conspiracy right-wing fringe is holding the highest office in the land.
Further, 20 million Americans believing Pizzagate, white replacement by immigrants, flat earth and lasers is far more than a few reporters who get their jobs wrong.
It’s also far more scary, to me. These are the ones who want new civil wars, and they’re also the ones committing most of our American public shootings.
Your persistence of fallable left wing press also leaves out Hannity, Carlson, and a slew of others with the exact traits (to a further extreme) of what you have found in some of your examples.
Indeed, Hannity is responsible primarily for the Russian Seth Rich conspiracy.
I’m sorry Guest, while you’re right about what you say, it seems your ignoring what your not saying.
From what I’ve seen, plenty of solid research has been presented on the public private partnership of the Agenda 21 debate.
If you can understand why the government is doing the dirty work for multi national funded corporations, then you will understand why the Emerald triangle is being policed for big money interests.
Whether you are pro or anti pot, this is incredibly challenging time for the economic vitality of a community and it’s elected officials who have become used to the tax base from all spending that had generated a boom, now the counties are dealing with reduced tax receipts , and declining property values, etc.
I presented Jacques Perretti, another journalist doing the ineviable job of exposing the corporate government program.
People with far more credentials in the support of humanity’s need to Separate fact from fiction as to what is this system doing to the average working person, not the trust funded speculator.
Did you actually do any real investigation and listen to Rosa Koire’s presentation, or Michael Shaw, etc. specifically dealing with Northern California?
No.
Plenty of information has been presented on Tax exempt foundations.
Plenty of information has been presented on the vaccine debate, to understand there is a real problem with the additives that kids are reacting to.
Medical Tyranny!
These issues have nothinh to do with left or right wing extremist people, it’s more about the rich and powerful increasing their control by consolidation of influence.
Is that a conspiracy theory?
It’s no wonder that people are so misinformed, miseducated, fed garbage food, because that’s all they can afford, ana you expect people who have been raised on Santa Claus And Disneyworld might not have a hard time reading thru the 1200plus pages of
Carroll Quigley’s “Tragedy & Hope”
It’s no wonder that children are reading books with shortened sentence structure and along with the shortened attention span created by television programming, and the flicker rates meant to put people in suggestive brain wave states.
Mind Control isn’t just for Breakfastanymore and the truly frightening thing is that we cant even get past the illusion of our “freedoms” without understanding corporate personhood.
My problem isn’t challenging someone’s beliefs, it’s the way people are ridiculed for presenting views that challenge our comfort zone, and labelling people and paranoid and psychologically disturbed for not buying into the false evidence appearing as reality.
At some point, you realize why our country has such am epidemic of poverty and homelessness and drug addiction. It’s a problem that could be solved if our priorities and attention were constantly changing with every news cycle.
I feel sorry for people who are trying to get to the root cause of the cancer in our society, and get marginalized by those who simply want to maintain the illusion.
That’s truly what is frightening.
From what I’ve seen…if you want to convince someone that there is plenty of solid research on something–provide links to it.
You’ve been moderating me for a while, so i know you’ve seen those links….but repetition doesn’t bother me:-)
Maybe you can watch that David Icke interview. Totally great bloke
I don’t have time for conspiracy theorists.
It’s easier to burn the heretics than it is to question authority.
It’s easier to grab wild theories off the internet than it is to look for solid sources.
But be real, CH, no one has burned you not even figuratively. You haven’t even been banned. You’re here and you’re loud and proud with your conspiracy theories.
Ludwig von Mises on Collectivist Fallacies and Interventionist Follies
By Richard M. Ebering
For more than a century the world has been caught in the grip of social engineers and political paternalists determined to either radically remake society from top to bottom in collectivist directions, or to use various government regulatory and redistributive policies to try to modify existing society into desired “social justice” forms and shapes. Both are based on false conceptions of man and society.
https://mises.org/wire/ludwig-von-mises-collectivist-fallacies-and-interventionist-follies September 18, 2017
Kym,
There’s no theory in criminal conspiracy.
Conspiracy theorists question known liars.
The congregation of the people (jury) can judge matters in a criminal case.
Numbers 35:12, 24-25.
~put down the shovel.
Keep focusing on this CHCO.
Kym is becoming a hard liner, when she says.
//^I don’t have time for conspiracy theorists.//^”
That’s a real scary sentence from someone in the media.
Pretty soon she will be encouraged to ban and censor people who don’t follow the narrative, and then we shall become 1933 Germany, and the conspiracy theorists are the new domestic terrorists.
The boomerang of History is going to come right around and decapitate those people who are standing up for transparency.
#MLK
#RFK
#JFK
People who believe the official narrative of the killings of those 3 people are the reason why our Government is unaccountable.
#ROOTCAUSE
Fear me, for I love facts…(Jimminy, get over yourselves. You’re here posting crap and I let you. I just don’t have to like it.)
“It’s easier to grab wild theories off the internet than it is to look for solid sources.”
No one is ever on the Internet. A search engine searches the world-wide-web and retrieves the latest news (North East West South).
“Be real, CH . . .”
~when emotion takes over, truth gets lost in the shuffle.
I’m not the one talking, or encouraging, slave-speak newspeak.
“You haven’t even been banned.”
~no comment.
Beautifully said, Sid. Oh, and thanks for all the educational links you’ve posted for us throughout your posts.
When you find time, catch up with William Binney and Kevin Shipp’s interviews and presentations. Amazing men.
For me, personally, I’m not a fan of the left or the right. People on both sides are capable of putting the people first.
We are all in this game together, and my motivation is not to create division but to keep the possibility alive that Kym can be shown with an earnest attempt at why there are people who question the establishment.
When the threat of death and extreme punishment is put in front of everyone’s face, in a prison that is meant to have protocols and guards who do their job, and cameras that aren’t going to malfunction on cue, and we are suppose to believe the government is here to help you and me?
This is precisely the root of the so called fringe thinkers who don’t buy the lies and deception we are supposed believe.
This is precisely the problem with the CIA invented conspiracy theory language that’s mean to distract from real conspiracies happening every day.
I understand some are uncomfortable to process, but again, it’s simply to remind people that there is a war against the individual, and my concern is when real conversations get marginalized because of the people who don’t want to deal with that reality.
#Sugarandspice
People questioning the establishment is great. People who do so anonymously without facts and also think the the earth is flat…well, who has got time for that.
I’ve never supported flat earth, but I’ve listened to people who have, and guess what? ? If they want to live on a flat earth, I’m totally cool with that. I don’t bitch at anyone for the flat earth philosophy, but people dying in prison who have known affiliations with high ranking officials in the government, and they get conveniently busted out of prison with a real or fake death is just too much. People who mess with kids need a first class ticket to hell[edit]
You don’t mess with the children, period.
You also don’t give people who do, a pass because they are liberal snowflake, or republican…whatever.
One can love people who think the earth is flat but….they don’t live on a flat earth. They just think they do. At a time when the evidence for a round earth is overwhelming.
That means that every other theory they spout is automatically suspect. One should be very careful when listening to information from them. Educated people have discussed the roundness of the earth for over 2500 years. Anyone who hasn’t caught up with that info by now is either willfully evading the truth or has trouble conceptualizing facts.
From what I’ve seen, plenty of solid research has been presented on the public private partnership of the Agenda 21 debate.
If you can understand why the government is doing the dirty work for multi national funded corporations, then you will understand why the Emerald triangle is being policed for big money interests.
Whether you are pro or anti pot, this is incredibly challenging time for the economic vitality of a community and it’s elected officials who have become used to the tax base from all spending that had generated a boom, now the counties are dealing with reduced tax receipts , and declining property values, etc.
I presented Jacques Perretti, another journalist doing the ineviable job of exposing the corporate government program.
People with far more credentials in the support of humanity’s need to Separate fact from fiction as to what is this system doing to the average working person, not the trust funded speculator.
Did you actually do any real investigation and listen to Rosa Koire’s presentation, or Michael Shaw, etc. specifically dealing with Northern California?
No.
Plenty of information has been presented on Tax exempt foundations.
Plenty of information has been presented on the vaccine debate, to understand there is a real problem with the additives that kids are reacting to.
Medical Tyranny!
These issues have nothinh to do with left or right wing extremist people, it’s more about the rich and powerful increasing their control by consolidation of influence.
Is that a conspiracy theory?
It’s no wonder that people are so misinformed, miseducated, fed garbage food, because that’s all they can afford, and you expect people who have been raised on Santa Claus And Disneyworld to not have a hard time reading through the 1200 plus pages of
Carroll Quigley’s “Tragedy & Hope”
It’s no wonder that children are reading books with shortened sentence structure, along with the shortened attention span created by television programming, and the flicker rates meant to put people in suggestive brain wave states.
Mind Control isn’t just for Breakfast anymore and the truly frightening thing is that we cant even get past the illusion of our “freedoms” without understanding corporate personhood.
My problem isn’t challenging someone’s beliefs, it’s the way people are ridiculed for presenting views that challenge our comfort zone, and labelling people and paranoid and psychologically disturbed for not buying into the false evidence appearing as reality.
At some point, you realize why our country has such an epidemic of poverty and homelessness and drug addiction. It’s a problem that could be solved if our priorities and attention weren’t constantly changing with every news cycle.
I feel sorry for people who are trying to get to the root cause of the cancer in our society, and get marginalized by those who simply want to maintain the illusion.
That’s truly what is frightening
Central,
Rule #1 is this:
Civility is valued by the moderator.
This is rule #2:
Insulting other commenters will get you deleted. Do it too often and you will get banned.
It’s TRUE, with you and a couple others I cross the line and ride the line often with those rules.
Though, long ago, I was polite to you in hoping you would succumb to some sort of reasoning with your extreme conspiracy based reality.
Now, here is rule #4;
Try to add value to the website by offering information, art, humor or, most of all, thoughtful discussion.
That’s where you and the cohorts ride the line, in my opinion.
Calling everyone “slaves” because we dont see any evidence of the distorted reality you believe exists, does not “add to the website” in any way.
Your paranoia misinforms you.
I’ve given you evidence of fraud by the people you post links to, but you keep on with it.
Your appreciation of nature is fabulous, I hope you get out to it sometime and get away from the paranoia.
Lastly, here is rule 5:
Free speech is valued by the moderator and sometimes that trumps civility but don’t push it.
That leaves Kym a lot of room to frustrate us both in our disagreements.
It seems to also trump rule #4, and rule #7 at times. What’s rule #7?
#7;
Mocking people in positions of authority is acceptable. Mocking children, disabled people, those suffering from misfortune, those in a minority who don’t have power is something a bully does.
The links Shak has recently posted regarding Columbine victims and shooters has definitely been on the edge of that.
All the links and videos regarding our CA fires that you 2 posted were definitely on the edge of that. I would say over the edge, but I’m just a commentor.
Sorry to take the time to explain this.
Here’s the rules page, if you care to fact check me:
https://kymkemp.com/2018/05/20/commenting-rules-on-redheaded-blackbelt/
You could do well to simply stop commenting on those people who you disagree with. Maybe kym can simply prevent you when you can’t resist calling people stupid, in the name of righteous indignation.
I’ve tried to be civil and yet you keep splashing water in the kiddie pool.
There’s a wealth of information you simply refuse to acknowledge or look into because of who is posting.
#NOTHING GROWS IN THE COMFORT ZONE
#BE MORE LIKE TYLER DURDEN
Your righteous indignation closes your mind.
Just don’t expect Kym to play along.
We all have a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
MLKs murder wasn’t a conspiracy theory,
It was a Conspiracy to commit murder.
Should it always have to take 30 plus years to prove it to the world?
I can’t wait for space based weapons to be understood by every human being on the planet.
Let alone the Orwellian nature of Big Tech mining every nook aND cranny of y/our lives.
Some conspiracies are dangerous.
Ignorance is what is truly frightening.
Tyler came out with a super informational article today that everybody who owns their own place needs to be aware of.
Imagine being fined $500.00 per day because your lawnboy died & couldn’t mow your lawn while you were out of town. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-08/grass-gestapo-out-control-30k-fine-potential-foreclosure-too-long-lawn
https://youtu.be/cz8Z6AwKnQo
Asset forfeiture case fought by the institute for justice.
Super!
~good thing i’m doing the scroll-to-catch-up, for when connection was impaired.
This is HUGE. 9-0 ruling Supreme Court.
“You need serious help. I know you dont think so, but you are dangerous. Your fear and paranoia is sickening and frightening.”
What exactly is dangerous about it?
Help me understand what again is sickening and frightening?
Potential truth that reveals a darker side of the power structure?
The fact that Jeff Epstien was given a slap on the wrist last time he was in front of a judge.
Was that a conspiracy theory too?
It’s far from rainbows and lollipops.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/jeffrey-epstein-dead-apparent-suicide
Tyler has done the work that shows all of us, that real investigative journalism is still happening, but on the whole, I’d say that Matt Drudge, and people who aren’t going to stop pointing out the ugly truths that get labeled sickening and frightening, not any comment made here on RHBB
#Be more like TylerDurden
Who can hold them accountable? A stronger one.
Who’s been laying down their war drums? Why?
How many attacks by the old complex have been diverted?
Why the panic push by the old complex to have us disarmed?
What extremes are they willing to go to in order to accomplish their ‘goal’?
How many ‘leaders’ of intelligence admitted to voting communist?
Whenever something bad was covered up or happened, who plunked the sign saying ‘xxxxxxx was here’?
Who came together to modernize the Smith-Mundt act? Why?
Who didn’t veto it when it hit his desk? Why?
CH, you’ll probably like this quiz:
What the heck is this? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/1/113
Who or what is the name in the title?
How does the name in the title tie into the ‘Epstein’ case?
Sometimes the things that are ‘hidden’ are right in our face.
Yes, 3/4 of congress must be held accountable, as well as just about every corporate chose president except Coolidge. (Coolidge was cool).
Both the DNC and the RNC are corporate owned. They choose who runs for ‘election’. It doesn’t matter how much money is thrown at our favorite pick, it all goes to the corporation to dispense to the so called ‘winner’. That might be one of the reasons why just about every politician was running for office. Surely we’ll toss money to so and so in order to beat so and so.
How many DMV votes in Calif alone were duplicated? Over 83,000.
How many votes in L.A. were from the deceased, moved, etc? Over 1 million.
How many counties still need to turn in their data to the auditors?
(Judicial Watch has been a champ at exposing the lies through their FOIA requests).
It takes strength to conquer oppression. Strength does not lump all ‘associated’ in as one big ol boogie man. Strength respects the individual’s who are innocent. There are innocent people inside every single group or branch. Sorting them out takes/took time.
It’s been said that all people should read the bible.
Guess who is trying to force the Book of Revelation to happen?
Does God know this?
God knows e v e r y t h i n g.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/jeffrey-epstein-dead-apparent-suicide
Pretty weird for that to have happened isn’t it.
It looks like ohld Scarborough didn’t get the memo in time, https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/10/far-left-panic-over-epsteins-suicide-shareblue-dispatches-urgent-talking-points-for-on-line-activists/
and has already yelled something about The Russian’s did it!’ lol.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/joe-scarborough-blames-russia-for-jeffrey-epsteins-death_3036940.html
Meanwhile, on chats all across the world, everyone is comparing pictures of ears and noses while speculations run wild.
The truth always wins in the end, especially after the classifieds become unclassifieded and released.
Better finish my post with a blog acceptable rhetoric, lest it all gets trded on.
Russia Russia Russia
Stormy Stormy Stormy
Impeach Impeach Impeach
~i have nothing to add to all of your excellent comments, Sid. It’s plain to see when the wheat is separated from the chaff who clings to the fraud, deceit and illusion, and who doesn’t. And if you don’t cling to the status quo – well then, you MUST be “Mentally ill” or a “Liar”. This or that – circular logic.
For those slow on the up-take, mentally ill is not being able to face your own tragedies. It’s also a default mechanism when there’s no place else to go. “Judges” use it all the time when you corner them.
Somewhere up there you mentioned let’s take time to laugh, so i’ll add this to lighten the load a little – a joke for the guys:
The other day my wife asked me to pass her lipstick but I accidentally passed her a glue stick. She still isn’t talking to me.
I do judge. I judge when someone repeatedly confronted with facts that prove them wrong will pick the most unlikely scenarios as the “real” truth in order to maintain that they are right. I judge that person as not likely to have been able to discard false facts in the future and I’m unlikely to believe them on other theories they have.
Jesus God, Kym, WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU NEED EXPLAINED? You know, w/links to something you won’t bother yourself to look at.
I’m just going to repeat an earlier response I made:
Your evidence of lasers starting fires was not acceptable by almost any person not steeped in wild theories. Same with Michelle Obama is a man, the time you said the Flat Earth theory is interesting…etc. You can’t say something has evidence just because someone wrote something and put it on the internet. You have to have reputable people with facts not people with no reputation with wildass speculations.
Almost every time I try to have a simple discussion on facts—even something as simple as whether someone actually said something or not, relatively easily verifiable information—you refuse to admit you were wrong. https://kymkemp.com/2019/06/25/helicopters-and-convoy-in-hayfork/#comment-828246
Why then would I even attempt to look at something that appears wildly crazy, written/on youtube by someone with no credentials to speak on the subject? If there is no willingness to look for truth on your part, then everything you say is tainted with falsehood.
Kym.
I don’t think.you should take it personally. We all take a poop twice a day, and it’s usually something everyone does, usually stinks and we can flush, clear the air, and carry on with the rest of the important work.
Moving forward and allowing people to work on their vernacular and tighten their game.
Practice always is better than no practice.
If you have time to listen to an interview…
“Icke sounded like a looney 20 years ago, now he seems to be the only one talking straight sense!!!”
He’s one of the easiest guy’s to listen to about the alternative view think and he’s taking an incredible amount of criticism over the years, but he pushes through those who call him names and his message resonates with a lot of people.
He’s not angry, threatening, or righteous. He just has a wonderful way to transmit information.
There are plenty of his interviews out there, but I feel this mainstream UK interview is a perfect
Introduction to a wonderful soft spoken man who has helped many people cross over that river of confusion to help them see what’s really at stake.
Peace , love, and deep country air filled breaths.
https://youtu.be/xBEOqfAn9Pw
I also judge when I respond to a concern clearly and concisely and then the person responding to me does not appear to be having the same conversation.
REPEAT – when the power goes off here all day my www connection takes a beating.
It’s sketchy.
You brought up so many issues. Hang on, i’ll gladly pass you the torch if you’re willing to step outside the box and not get all hissy if i reply to your Michelle concern.
My brother, wife and family, sister and husband lived in Chico –raised their children there. My Mom and Dad lived in Paradise for two years. I followed the fire videos and articles daily -as close as i did the ones about Santa Rosa, for the same reasons – family and friends.
I have many, many saved videos of Paradise fires. The following is from aplanetruth3 –looks like it was re-uploaded July 28. And, YT is a no go for me right now. If it’s the same one from February, @ 6:57 is filmed footage DEW, @8:33 is a view of the mountainside canyons, and @8:47 is a CalFire truck w/guys on top, w/arms.
Paradise Lost #74 ~ DEW’d IT’s So In Your Face ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38EUQqRxgrM 11 mins.
This clip i like just because it shows some of the people who returned and some who stayed.
Paradise lost: the town incinerated by California’s deadliest wildfire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoq80syzW0A 9 mins. November 27, 2018
This is good that we’re discussing something that is, more than likely, on all of our minds. Never forget the 3,000+ degree melting/vaporizing heat of Paradise Lost.
I’m gonna renege on your concerns about the shape of the earth and Michelle. I’m going to the river on this beautiful day. I hope you get to spend some time today, Kym, relaxing in the sunshine.
Don’t bother on the others.
I’ll respond to this one by repeating an earlier comment and then I’ll go back to what I decided months ago–logic and facts are not working with this commenter…I have better things to do with my time then go back and forth. (I’m not going to respond to video posted by people that don’t use their real names and begin with clips stolen from a cartoon.)
Okay, let’s look at the Paradise Fire logically. Why? Why would the government use satellites to take out its own people? Costing millions upon millions to put out the fire…? And why disbelieve a perfectly plausible explanation that follows all the known facts–PG&E has every reason not to want to be held culpable for the fire and even they admit that their equipment probably caused the fire.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/business/energy-environment/pge-camp-fire.html
You can look for the improbable (government satellites) or recognize that the facts show that at 6:33 a.m. on November 8 2018 a fire was reported near a power transmission line and at 6:15 a.m. in the same area a line stopped transmitting power. And a PG&E utility worker saw the fire in the same area as the line that was having problems. AND anyone who listens to the scanner knows that power lines cause a number of fires.
So why go looking for weird, unlikely “explanations” when you have a perfectly reasonable explanation that fits all the facts.
That’s roughly equivalent to having forgotten to put gas in the car, having the tank register empty, but then claim that an alien force beam could have sucked the juice from your engine. Sure…it could be true but one theory is much less reasonable than the other. Why go with the one that doesn’t make sense?
That was a powerful video, CH. Thanks for posting that.
I really like how they led with the predictive programming phenomenon, aka the Simpson’s episode. That show has nailed so many events in advance it’s uncanny. The 3 eyed fish, the 911, the Calif fires, and so on. Here’s one of the lists https://www.businessinsider.com/the-simpsons-is-good-at-predicting-the-future-2016-11
Rosa Koirie, Tom DeWeese, Michael Shaw, G. Edward Griffin, and so many more, fill us in on the globalist owned/ran energy and agenda’s. It’s called the ‘Soviet’ planning aka COG.
Anybody who’s ever seen the homeless situation in the bay area and southern Calif have seen the ‘plan’ unfolding right before their eyes. Here’s one of Shaw’s video’s that explains it all quite well enough. (it’s not his best video, but it gets the concept across nicely).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFvgDdj1vwg
The ending shares what we must do to stop the madness.
Central,
That was the most moronic and idiotic piece of shit film ever made.
Besides his first 73 episodes no doubt.
Flat earthers apparently arent getting many views.
36 only.
1 from me and Kym each.
Aplanetruth is pretty lucky to have that stupid shit allowed on the internet, and here on RHBB too.
I will continously advocate for banning trash like this from RHBB, YouTube, the internet and your brain.
That video uses similar tactics to ISIS recruitment videos.
I bet aplanetruth is really hurting for money these days.
Do you get a percentage of the ad revenue?
I mean, that shit is straight brain rotting madness.
“The other day my wife asked me to pass her lipstick but I accidentally passed her a glue stick. She still isn’t talking to me.”-CH
LOL. Can I get a fact check on that please. 😀
Sid, speaking of JFK and Epstein, listen to this: The chatter the last few days, is focused on … you guessed it, Baden.
(plus the corruption in the prisons).
Actually Central, it is Bizarre it’s raining this much in August, I am not sure if it’s entirely unheard of, probably have to check the weather records..
As for conspiracies, weather modification is a reality, that is not a hyped up conspiracy.. Seriously there are companies that seed clouds, they can make it rain on one farmers crop and not the other.. It’s true.. The lame ass part of it is that really, I don’t not believe it has been studied extensively enough to really be applied.. it’s bull that these companies can mess with the very foundations for our life source patterns without really doing long term studies of implications, even if they do, many times the results are SKEWED, and covered up…
The implications of Monsanto HUGE.. I mean people can remain in thier comfort zones of denial. And pretend that companies like Monsanto are socially responsible.. I mean, it’s fairly unavoidable to not consume product touched by Monsaitians large grasp.. and that makes them all the more dangerous.. What has happened to the corn farmers and Monsanto’s all out war and control is Alarming!! The corn farmers struggle to maintain thier own organic seed stock, also being raided by Monsanto’s muscle private goon squad.. WTF.. How is that not a funky conspiracy??
I mean Climate Change is doubed a conspiracy, especially the fossil fuels industries, that want to skirt responsibility, or take action. They won’t even take simple measures of putting scrubbers on refineries.. Climate Change is factually verified.. and still deemed a ‘conspiracy’ by some…
As for modren day Slavery.. funk yeah it’s real! At least in my book! I feel like our society is engineered in sorts of ways that maintain the Invisible Hand.. $$$.. Maybe if your not in the ranks to feel the impact, you might want to check your privilege meter..
“Tragedy and Hope”
Carroll Quigley
It’s all in those pages.
Who wants to read 1200 pages, when a few paragraphs on this blog will suffice
SmallFry,
~yes, it is bazaar weather. What happened to our summer weather? Rainstorms blow in, and then it begins to rain. Last night’s midnight rain came with no wind. It just started ‘coming down!’ Do you watch/listen to Dane Wigington’s weekly Saturday morning broadcasts outta Redding? He’s been at it for a decade, such a conspiracy monger! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNsTGW_PWl8&feature=em-uploademail <<this morning's broadcast.
Y’all keep bringing YouTube ad revenue to Photoshop Dane on KymKemp.
I bet none of you have donated a cent to Kym though.
Why havnt any of you addressed Dane Wigingtons photoshopping of pictures?
New prediction;
You will all ignore this post. We wont talk about Danes photoshopping, and you wont want to know which images hes altered.
GeoEngineering.. Gets go ahead..from Harvard scientists..
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603974/harvard-scientists-moving-ahead-on-plans-for-atmospheric-geoengineering-experiments/
“We’ve been cloud seeding on and off over the past 30 years,” said Doug Laraby, planning director at Winter Park Ski Resort.” …
“the state Department of Natural Resources has permitted seven cloud-seeding programs in Colorado. Around 40 organizations typically spend roughly $1 million a year on the programs.”
“In 2018, Colorado, Arizona, California, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming have agreed to cooperatively fund cloud-seeding programs for at least another nine years.”
https://denverwatertap.org/2018/12/10/cloud-seeding-off-to-a-strong-start-for-2018-19-winter-season/
From your link:
“There are storm clouds that blow through Colorado that may have plenty of liquid, but not enough particles to form snowflakes,” Busto said.
“What we’re doing is adding more particles into the clouds and using natural processes to harvest that water vapor and squeeze more snow out of a storm. Silver iodide is essentially a dust particle for cloud vapor to bond to.”
Cloud seeding is most effective in average-to-wet winters, when multiple storms loaded with moisture come through.
“The dry winters are when everyone hopes cloud seeding can help with the snow, but unfortunately that’s not how it works,” Busto said. “We gauge success by looking at snow totals over the years, not single seasons.”
They can not control the weather.
Do not try to imply a guy with a handheld generator in Colorado (in November) who is trying to get more snowflakes – made a storm in California, in August.
“Not how this works”
Extreme paranoia is warping your reading and comprehension levels.
Your taking very uninteresting-official news and creating a whole bunch of shit to add to it to make it interesting, to you.
From your link, Smallfry;
A pair of Harvard climate scientists are preparing small-scale atmospheric experiments that could offer insights into the feasibility and risks of deliberately altering the climate to ease global warming.
They would be among the earliest official geoengineering-related experiments conducted outside of a controlled laboratory or computer model, underscoring the growing sense of urgency among scientists to begin seriously studying the possibility as the threat of climate change mounts.
Sometime next year, Harvard professors David Keith and Frank Keutsch hope to launch a high-altitude balloon, tethered to a gondola equipped with propellers and sensors, from a site in Tucson, Arizona. After initial engineering tests, the balloon would spray a fine mist of materials such as sulfur dioxide, alumina, or calcium carbonate into the stratosphere. The sensors would then measure the reflectivity of the particles, the degree to which they disperse or coalesce, and the way they interact with other compounds in the atmosphere.
The researchers first proposed these balloon experiments in a 2014 paper. But at a geoengineering conference in Washington, D.C., on Friday, Keith said they have begun engineering design work with Arizona test balloon company World View Enterprises. They’ve also started discussions about the appropriate governance structure for such an experiment, and they plan to set up an independent body to review their proposals.
Is there some scary sinister paragraph I missed?
Or were you hoping the words “Geo-Engineering” would scare me into believing your nefarious conspiratorial implication?
Ooops. I should have put up a disclaimer: I modify the weather!
On cold mornings, if I pee outside, I create steam. This rises to the upper atmosphere and creates Monsoons in the Phillipines 2 years later. Try it!
Google may censor that paragraph soon so download it, print 10 copies and send them to the local papers and Representatives. Keep a copy taped to the underside of your toilet, Men in Black never search the toilet for evidence like I just gave to you truth seekers.
Brian, this isn’t a personal attack on you or your belief system.
You should know better than most what the system is capable of.
Why do you cling to the fantasy that everything is fine and dandy.
The worst thing that can happen is for good people not to speak out against the system that is clearly designed to keep the the structure in place.
You come across as someone who defends the establishment and that is your absolute right.
Having a conversation about real issues should be welcomed and valued.
I’ve given you more than enough respect for your beliefs and tried my darndest to point out where you could look if you had eyes to see.
The tragedy is that you might be a part of the problem, by failing to engage the conversation with respect and class.
I wish you could hear yourself, the way you talk down to ideas and beliefs you don’t agree with. It gives one the sense of how people are raised with certain genetic dispositions that are passed from generation to generation, and sometimes learning how to break that programming is the first step.
I don’t hate you. I see you as truly believing in your cause the same as people who disagree with you.
Your arguments will never gain traction in people’s hearts, you will not change a single person’s mind when you don’t work from the higher resonating place.
I hope you understand what I’m saying and release your desire to stop people from engaging in a righteous debate on the system of government that needs to be held accountable by the people.
If you think I’m mad….it’s because I’m paying attention.
Sid,
I’m sorry you dont know it yet.
But I’m pro-evidence, not pro-establishment.
haha good one, and i am a billionaire
Well, with that kind of money you could buy a few issues of my 2011 classic; The Big Lie.
It was named the 6th most controversial comic of 2011.
Published by the people who brought you The Walking Dead and Spawn.
It’s a comic book that proves I’m pro-evidence and not pro-establishment.
But evidence seems to be a confusing concept for many here.
“//Sid,
I’m sorry you dont know it yet.
But I’m pro-evidence, not pro-establishment.//
“PRO-EVIDENCE”
Says the hungry prosecutor whose only focus is to PROSECUTE.
MANY INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN HAVE SPENT DECADES BEHIND BARS WITH PEOPLE WHO, LIKE YOU, ARE….
“PRO-EVIDENCE”.
[EDIT: Sid, stop personalizing your comments. Talk about issues.]
If by prosecute you mean point out your lacking any credibility for your assertions, than yes, I am prosecuting the fake-truth pushers.
FAIL
I think I made a fairly accurate and plain analogy to his “pro- evidence” claim.
Evidence, for years,has been twisted, fabricated, buried if it doesn’t follow a certain narrative.
Plenty of commenters have given him links to things he never responds to, because he’s really only interested in his style of one “up manship”,
and of course,
..being “right”.
I think most people would concur with his style…and if you like it, then he will continue to push his narrative (with your blessing) when no one truly cares.
Imagine that.
I think everyone knows by now that he is supported and endorsed by you, and that’s fine, just make sure you hold him accountable for personal attacks, as well.
Cheers
Yes, I do support solid evidence over wild theories by anonymous people on YouTube. You have found my prejudice.
TRB, the evidence is overwhelming.. the system is corrupt!
HMM.. ooh boy TRB…Hate to Burst your fantasy bubble, but umm, Peeein outside will not cause weather modification… or Geo Engineer the planet.. But your welcome to put that on your toilet seat, if it makes you feel better..
Apparently there is a lot opposition to geo engineering, and rightfully so..
https://www.ecowatch.com/solar-geoengineering-risks-climate-change-2623070339.html
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-hidden-dangers-of-geoengineering
https://www.carbonbrief.org/geoengineering-carries-large-risks-for-natural-world-studies-show
~if we’re gonna bash the present prezidental poser, this would be what i would choose to broadcast:
Trump Administration Reauthorizes Cyanide Bombs To Kill US Wildlife
https://bit.ly/2yT0wrz August 9th.
Wildlife or released Plumb Island experiments?
~whenever the power is cut, as it was all day yesterday, my www connection gets weirded. I’m not familiar w/Plumb Island experiments. I’ll have to check it when i can.
Fair warning: Make sure you have a vomit bag and a roll of tums or jug of pepto.
~okay, i got to a site for Plumb Island -hard to stomach. Frankenstein scientists. I go right to the prohibition against graven images is before the prohibition of murder. AS IF “$cientists” can create Anything better than Mother Nature – Pfft! So that doesn’t answer your question – idk.
I can’t get to the YT link for Dr. Mary’s Monkey -it’s an audio. If you haven’t heard it, it’ll curl your toes. I bought the book years ago, and couldn’t get past the picture and caption on page 17.
I’ll keep an eye out for that one. Creepy is an understatement.
People linked the island to Lyme’s disease and other strange ‘new’ diseases, too. I’d go down that route first, it’s easier on the stomach.
Years and years ago they tried to move to the Heartland of USA. Man oh man, the protests were strong! I never did hear how/where it ended up though.
A few links that might help start a gentler search. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/320/5880/1146a
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/519/all-info
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2182
There’s probably FOIA releases out there too, I don’t know. (FBI Records Vault, Blacklisted Vault, etc).
https://youtu.be/daF8-GO9i5Q
FbI document “leaked to yahoo”
Corbett Report has a great perspective.
Pretty straightforward Authoritian.
Pushing social media to restrict the first amendment. …
DOG WHISTLE
Wow, serious stuff right there.
TDS afflicted this year, WDS the next. (w for whoever derangement symptom).
Nobody left out here, except the robots.
you’ll no doubt comment with more ramblings about me attacking “truth seekers”, well, I’ll be ignoring you.
God dam, I sure called that.
Maybe I’m creating the future and the weather.
A formula for weak conspiracy theories:
10% real news
+
40% speculation
+
10% assertion
+
30% questions
+
10% quotes from historical figure
=
Anything you want.
* for 110% theory you need to add 10% YouTube links to people with fake credentials
Guest @10:42,
Thank you.
Flat Earther Alert!!!!
Central posted this comment today:
https://kymkemp.com/2019/08/08/hispanic-drug-traffic-organization-grow-raided-k-9s-used-to-capture-suspects-says-trinity-county-sheriffs-office/#comment-847888
Central apparently didnt care when a year and a half ago I pointed out that she posted videos from a flat earther named “aplanetruth”.
So in today’s comment Central trys to send a video from “aplanetruth” as prove of DEWs starting our fires.
What magical world does Central live in?
Someone who is a flat earther can be somehow right about Direct Energy Space Weapons starting our fires?
Hello! Shut this crap off!
https://aplanetruth.inf (type “o” here, I wont provide the easy link to this propaganda)
In the link above, aplanetruth is selling a flat earth book.
It’s slightly moronic that I have had to post this information twice, to the same commentor.
Is there a reason to take a serious flat earther seriously?
NO
PS, a formula for weak conspiracy theories:
https://kymkemp.com/2019/08/08/hispanic-drug-traffic-organization-grow-raided-k-9s-used-to-capture-suspects-says-trinity-county-sheriffs-office/#comment-847809
Lol
What do you call this Kym?
I merely pointed out a relevant perspective for those obsessed with prosecuting people.
I think it was fair analogy considering He’s calling people out by name.
I think this is a warning to those that are unaware that her posts have a history of wild conspiracy theories. He is not trying to say she has personality issues (in this comment.) He is pointing out things she herself has said. She could repudiate them but if she continues to hold those theories then Brian has a right to clarify that anyone reading her comments should be aware she also believes these other things.
You are welcome to point to statements that Brian has made to try and discredit him if you think that will work.
“I think this is a warning to those that are unaware that her posts have a history of wild conspiracy theories.”
Did your Mother drop you?
Don’t start insulting, CH. You’re already on moderation. And I just have so much patience and anything that even hints at insulting my family just plain out triggers me.
~ didn’t mean it as anything against your family, Kym, really. More of a sense of humor, in that, you leave me no other place to go when you go out of your way with your continuing, in-the-crypt, insults towards me.
Before the microscope came along, viruses and bacteria and creepy crawlies couldn’t be seen with the naked eye. It doesn’t mean these things don’t exist, it just means you have to look thru a microscope to see them.
What would be my motivation, after years of one of RHBB’s community talkers, to all-of-a-sudden change direction to the point that it upsets you so much? It’s your decision, and others, to interpret what is said in here. And more than anything, you misunderstand and cling to the old paradigm -as if that’s some sort of a comfy blanket. It isn’t. And, it’s obvious to those with eyes and ears.
~peace to men of good will.
Lol…
Doubt it.
What’s the point? People can make their own decisions about how they feel about those posts that are questionable.
Maybe you can post a disclaimer that the viewS and opinions expressed here don’t represent Kym Kemp or RHBB.
DONE!
No more Brian trying to save the world from Conspiracies. I think everyone knows that there are much more important things to worry about.
I really don’t think his method is going to convince anyone, but ….
YOU….?
I’ve posted too many links that he chooses to ignore and deflect back to lasers beams, flat earth, etc.
His ego stops him from doing anything about the real problems, but most people will just ignore what doesn’t work for them…
BTW, DID YOU GET TO LISTEN TO THE DAVID ICKE INTERVIEW?
I still have faith that you can be awoken to the difference between 2D news and 3D news.
~i sorta, kinda think, that any one who has bought the lie of fraudulent commerce… fill-in corporation forms, surrender knowledge about your private property, family and individual self, exchange worthle$$ paper for a worthless Master-slave-mentality permission permit, and sign here – must maintain the lawless illusion, no matter what the cost.
Now, can we get back to talking about LAND, Mother Earth, the documents preserved that secures THIS IS HOW IT’S DONE … what we’re here for?
https://youtu.be/8irQifrpmEY
David Icke.
Oh man. Reptiles and Grays are now part of your “credible people” pool?
Real world issues, huh?
Reptiles, Grays, lasers beams, agenda 21, flat earthers….
Suuuuuuure.
You have an assignment, buckle down there…stay focused on those endowments.
Or give up on your righteous indignation.
Stay focused on your assignment.
I’m still looking for all CH’s posts that exclaim the wonders and joys of flat earth. (I’d still love and support her if she did believe that stuff because it doesn’t matter to me the fads and trends that people swing on, as long as their heart is in the right place like hers seems to be).
I remember an interesting poster… but, of course, not the handle… maybe it was “I Like Stars”… (where is Stars anyway? I hope they’re alright). Stars(?) enjoyed the trendy stories like Flat Earth and the Arctic underworld. I found the posts to be a fascinating distraction from the conspiracy theorists rhetoric of ‘Russia, Russia Russia”… “Orange Man bad, Orange man Bad, Orange man bad’… “Impeach, Impeach, Impeach’… ‘and poor little Stormy Stormy Stormy who’s lawyer’s hat should have said “Mike Avenetti Got Arrested (MAGA)”..
Anyway, if everyone’s so into ‘facts’ and ‘evidence’ (LOL), please show us the posts where CH preached about flat earth or whatever is up your crawl. The slander and bullying is … straight out of a psyops book. Show us the REAL evidence, where she’s head over heels enchanted with it and WHY you all have a problem with people having an enchantment with things that don’t concern you yourselves.
The last time ‘evidence’ was asked for, the link provided fell flat on it’s face. There was no ‘discussion’ or ‘interest’ or ‘compassion’ or anything. There was only YOU you YOU … and of course the I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, …. (kindergarten stuff).
[edit] because it doesn’t matter to me the fads and trends that people swing on
Bullshit. Your scared to realize you dont know anything but believe everything.
You gave quite a shit 1 week ago what 3 kids were going to be reading as educational material.
[edit]
Central posted another flatearther video on this thread.
[edit] I don’t know why I waste my time.
~such kind words, shak. My cup runneth over.
Kym,
You continually remind commenters or readers that you don’t have time, but then you keep bashing.
“I’m not going to respond to video posted by people that (who) don’t use their real names.”
What you know about the name game would fit in a thimble.
I’m not going to respond to someone who puts Ms. in front of the name they go by, and begs permission from a pretend external authority to express rights they already have.
“People questioning the establishment is great. People who do so anonymously without facts and also think the the earth is flat…well, whose got time for that.”
You keep it up, and keep it up -flat earth, flat earth, flat earth. Something that was taken out of context EIGHT MONTHS AGO. You really stretch for something that doesn’t exist to prove a point that doesn’t exist.
“Kym, this is a significant failure of the press and deserves much more attention than wrangling over what comments CH makes.” –Guest
~how many times do you need to hear the same thing 29 different ways?
If so-called ‘journalists’ are ministers of propaganda, do they deserve the protection afforded “real” journalists?
shak @ 3:22,
~about the Simpsons – i had no idea. Eerie. I can’t remember watching but a few Simpson episodes, and can’t remember a one, which is why i noted the time references on the video.
“Rosia Koirie …and so many more.” MANY, many more – Jerry Day (Secrets of the Slave State mp4), Deborah Tavaris of Sebastopol, the Fullerton Informer, Patrick Wood (Technology Rising), John Whitehead, Thomas Nelson (Purging America of the Matrix pdf), Mises, Michael Tsarion, Jon Rappoport, Sheriff Mack, Bill Cooper, Carl Miller –on and on. First the corrupt took Roger Elphick. I didn’t to anything. Then they took Brandon Smith. I didn’t do anything. Then they took Winston Shrout. I didn’t do anything. For the past several years Bernard von Nothaus (Liberty dollar), has been raked over the coals. Now, we’ve got the military in our own backyard.
Maxims of Law that serve the American People
https://keystoliberty2.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/maxims-of-law-that-serve-the-american-people/
This one has to do with the name game. Maybe you’ll view it (again), even thou i don’t comment using a name i go by -like 99% of the other commenters.
Freeman in Court – judge bows to Sovereign – Canada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzjv20sC5CY&t=2s 2:41 September 2010
Thanks for the video and the link to that learning site. I’ve been trying to stop scrolling long enough to take a course or 10, like from the NLA and other places. They all throw me for a looie at the very beginning though, so I still have to get past my wall. I appreciate the directive steering.
Me: Any law not in accordance with the Constitution is repugnant to the constitution and to be considered null and void.
Them: The reason we no longer have a constitution is because of this ‘treaty’, that ‘law’, this bad pres’, that bank….
Me: Those are all ahem repugnant non absolutes. Yes, those are/were big stumbling blocks, but they have no power of authority to destroy the constitution. KNOWING the dirty deeds is the first step towards untangeling the nasty web so the Constitution can be restored back to it’s full non stacked deck.
Them: You can’t restore until this particular ‘treaty’, ‘law’, ‘act’, EO’, or whatever is dealt with.
Me: Bullshit. It will be restored and the bad deeds will be dealt with in a timely way that doesn’t harm the outcome. Imagine tossing every single govt worker to the streets at the same exact time. Chaos. Poverty. Death. Panic. …. nope, not gonna happen. BUT, culling the depts individually and with great prejudice against tyrants, is applaudable, which provides time for the others to get their life together (start their own business, line up a job, whatever), before the room is entirely emptied and the door is locked. When that room is emptied and the door is locked, so goes all their tyrannical rules, enforcements, fundings, etc… SO, don’t ever tell me that we are defeated because of a dumb tyrannical deed from a long long time ago.
Them: yeh, you’re kind of right, I see your point, but please, don’t forget to persist in taking the corrective actions needed as far back in history as needed.
Me: Deal. Now, please, keep teaching me all the dirt so that I am fully aware like you, so we can all work together and not miss a thing.
Them: DEAL! We so got this. Let’s start with the tyrannical ‘conspiracy theorist’ slander that was created by the See Eye Aye & EFFed Be Eye to STIFLE the questioning of the ‘system’ that they had established.
OH hey! That reminds me. Rumors have it that they’re reopening the 911 case due to discovery of evidence.
This is just a rambling, so that you understand how simple minded I am. I fall into the category of shoppers who think the ‘101 for dummies’ series is sometimes too convoluted.
I’m not alone. Millions have been focus damaged even more so than self. Oh look! Squirrel!
Which is why our Rights, the world over, are INHERENT Rights, not memorized rights. We all crave the same thing. Liberty, justice, Love, Forgiveness, Fairness, Independence, Creativity, Originality, Humor, Prosperity, Health…. all the things the devil is in a panic to squelch, because he knows his time is up. This is where we’re supposed to pray for the them to turn from their wicked ways so that they too can come to know the blessings in store for the prodigal sons. So, with that said, I pray that the scales of ignorance fall from the eyes of all so that all can come to know God and his love and mercy. How cool would that be to all be united at a honking big party with the best food and drink ever created.
Talk about one big happy Daddy who’s children have finally returned home. I can’t wait to see that big ol’ grin. When God is happy, we’re all happy.
Oh wait, that’s hateful speech to those who love harming others. Who loves ya Baby? God does. Despite yourselves. But where you spend eternity is your choice, not His. Last call for (non?) alcohol. It’s almost party time.
Dang, I think I wrote a book here. Surely I won the ‘longest post’ of the year award. Don’t applaud, just throw money.
China has united to regain their Inherent Rights too. They want their country back and they want it back now. Go citizens of China! https://hannity.com/media-room/breaking-hong-kong-airport-cancels-all-flights-as-pro-democracy-protesters-storm-the-terminal/
Paris yellow vests still going strong despite the billy club regime trying to oppress and suppress them. Go citizens of Paris!
But, of course, the military hopes to scatter them. Tienanmen Square all over again?
https://twitter.com/AlexandreKrausz/status/1160947525442056193
Yikes!
It’s amazing how large the military can grow when the govt receives over half of your income. Imagine what America would look like if the 90% income tax people win the election. Good Gawd.
‘ . . .over half of our income’
~at the base of things, we’re really a despicable, poor excuse of anything that resembles logic before authority.
‘income’ – vowel before two consonants. No agreed-upon-value word. No value, no contract. No contract, no jurisdiction.
Income is not defined in the Internal Revenue Scam’s IRS Code book.
~you know, shak, what we talk about is vast –Vast. So intertwined. “Fruit From a Poisonous Tree” is THE best source i’ve come across. Saying this w/15 years on my hard-drive, that, this book is check and mate.
Agreed. Income used to be defined as profit over all expenses, but now it’s been twisted to mean ‘you earn it, we keep it’.
That sounds like just the ticket I’ve been hoping to stumble across. Thanks for the tip!
Is there an audio interview ?
~not that i’m aware of, and can’t search for one right now either.
I haven’t found one yet either, but will keep searching.
Oh, hey, apparently the Russian citizens have been protesting for several months too. They miss their freedom of speech and the right to peacefully assemble, among other inherent rights, too.
The global awakening. 🙂
The only search results have the key word ‘of’ instead of ‘from’. But, it’s all legal beagle stuff, so I watched a few.
Basically, it’s confirming everything we’ve been learning from the spygate hearings. There was no dossier, it was a phony baloney scheme. The whole thing should have been dropped. But it wasn’t. Even the CEO’s of 5 eyes admitted that they felt uncomfortable with the strange request to spy on a candidate. Anyway, it wasn’t dropped, and more and more info about the scheme was brought out into the light. Different investigations were already ongoing, which is why many of the questions couldn’t be answered. Had they of not been already investigating the scheme, then the discoveries from the hearings would have had to fall under the poisonous tree principle, if I heard the video correctly. Well, that explains the time consuming ordeal we’ve all had to suffer through. I wish they’d just declassify and get on with the show.
Good thing they’re investigating the corrupt prison system now, before they declassify and get super serious about the tyranny.
Are ya ready Freddie? Hang on to your hat, it’s going to be a wild ride.
Speaking of the ongoing investigations at that time, one has been declassified and released. It’s about the C-emails and foundation and things like that. https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2019-08-14%20Staff%20memo%20to%20CEG%20RHJ%20-%20ICIG%20Interview%20Summary%20RE%20Clinton%20Server.pdf
I appreciate constructive feedbacks, and like your ‘longest post’ of the year award comment. I believe Epstein, dead or alive, is charged with the “C” word.
I still can’t get to YT, where you posted a link to, and said that at the end was what to do. I know we have to recognize that there is a problem first. Other than embracing our own Divinity, we look outside of ourselves for solutions. So, the following is just material wor(l)d FYI.
Excerpts from – “Fruit From a Poisonous Tree” by Melvin Stamper, JD:
Institutions of blue smoke and mirrors. Most of the judges, bankers and attorneys do not know the truth about our money or banking system. Schools of all levels do not teach that banks create money out of thin air. Throughout history, accounting, and law books on the high school and college level – the truth is not to be found there. The truth can be verified in a form that cannot be contradicted – The Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago’s own publication, “Modern Money Mechanics”, and a companion comic book for young children titled “The Story of Money”. These books have been used as exhibits in lawsuits against banks and are no longer available.
By 1965 there were no more Federal Reserve Notes being issued that were redeemable for money. In fact fifty million of the very first non-redeemable notes were shipped on November 26, 1963, the very day JFK was being buried! President Kennedy had issued Executive Order 1110, on June 4, 1963, ordering the Treasury to print United States Notes. The most memorable of these notes was the $2 issue.
These notes couldn’t be redeemed for anything any more than could FRNs, but at least they had not indebted the People, because they were issued without debt owing to the Federal Reserve Bank.
“The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans.”
–John F. Kennedy at Columbus University, 10 days before his assassination.
Abraham Lincoln also made a similar daring move. Both Presidents were promptly assassinated.
Orders issued by Lyndon B. Johnson, as newly-appointed dictator, was for the mints to stop producing silver coins. In this order, Johnson recalled all of the non-interest bearing scrip. Johnson was demonstrably responsible for the debauching of the U.S. currency.
~any President who gives a yank and does not talk about the root of all evil, isn’t worth We, the People’s time deliberating his actions.
The kids today don’t understand that the ‘money from thin air’ is not for them, it’s for the bankers. They don’t understand that the bankers who print up the money out of thin air demand we exchange our lives for it. They raise the cost of survival necessities which forces this generation to work 2 or 3 jobs just to get by. They don’t understand that the next generation will have to work 20 hr days 7 days a week for half the survival necessities. They just think “well, let’s print more money out of thin air! That’ll fix everything’. Oye!
That’s a great blog, CH. I’ve put it on my toolbar, to remind me to finish going through it fully, and to refresh what I’ve read to date. I really like the explanation of the Maxim’s. That’s always been one of those trigger words that makes my brain freeze, but not now!
There is rumor that the Epstein case will be gone through with a fine tooth comb, especially the tax payer paid for prison system itself. The public paid good money for his witness protection… I’m wondering if we should call every rep and demand accountability.
You still can’t use YT? What about Periscope or Bitchute or the other platforms?
He ended it with the typical: inform your council and demand they drop all ties to the UN, iclei, COG, etc.
” I’m wondering if we should call every rep and demand accountability.”
Nobody’s minding the til – Not that the til is ever considered. T.H.E.Y. are on vacation/holidaze. Just a recording at the Supe’s office, of a “Deputy” Clerk. The Clerk of the Board left the building some time ago –even tho her name is on “The County” letterhead. She doesn’t even sign the wannabe Minutes, labeled Action Summary. The “Deputy” signs. <<<this is fiction imitating fiction.
"You still can’t use YT? What about Periscope or Bitchute or the other platforms? "
~that's beyond my ability. I just gotta get Leon out here from 101 Net Link. It's not like i've kept in touch w/them over the week-end.
CH, when you get up and running again, this old 3 part series is really helpful. I’ll post pt 3 for you here, so you can grab it right away. He has even more tips for fighting it at local level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTANfm5RlWs
(confronting a21 by Libertyinourtime)
~i made note of the link, thanks. I’m guessing by the time i can connect to YT again, it’ll be just in time for the FIFTH DAY of 10 hrs. w/out power. The white pick-ups with ‘ACRT Pacific’ on the doors were all over Carlotta today.
~great Constitutional meeting tonight in Fortuna.
Wonderful about the meeting! Go Fortuna!
I’m glad you were able to bookmark the link. The whole series is worth the watch even to those who’ve heard most of it before. The keyword is ‘most’.
I hope they get your service back up today or as close to today as possible. That really sux.
shak,
Ah-ha! I stumbled upon your comment again, amongst nearly 600.
Watched YT vid -confronting Agenda 21 –at local level.
“Sauce”, as you hill-n-dale growers would say.
~smiles
Yep, good sauce right there. I’m glad you are finally able to visit YT and other video platforms again.
Did you see the straight out of A21 book promotion over on LoCo? Even those who aren’t in the *know* of the ‘agenda’, are putting it in it’s place and slamming the door shut.
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2019/aug/16/can-california-put-cars-in-the-rear-view-mirror/
Let’s hope they make a big stink when the deceivers try to force it upon us with their ‘everybody agrees’ that we need to give up cars to save the planet crap.
Quick, take a screenshot. My posts keep disappearing.
~i’m seeing your posts. It’s just a wade-through to find ’em on this bulging thread.
Once before i went to Lost Coat Outpost site, cuz suzy blah blah posted something i said about vax-a-nations. It turned into a short sh!t show.
Okay, i read the first 5 paragraphs. That was enough to know whoever wrote it has head in dark crevasse.
I meant the commenters aren’t buying what the article is trying to sell them. I didn’t articulate that very well, sorry. Yeh, the article is out and out A21 crap all the way through.
Yeh, the long threads make it difficult to find the posts, but many of my posts have been doin’ the disappearing act again. Sometimes they show back up if I repost, sometimes not. Some never do return. (on the various threads).
Maybe put all new replies at the bottom with a reference link to the post you are replying to?
Yes, my brother, let’s get the go fund me, and get this manuscript started.
We might have to FOIA RHBB records….
#SUGARANDSPICE
The Freedom of Information Act is for public agencies not private websites.
Central,
If you’re tired of being called a flat earther, why dont you just say the dammed earth is not flat – and stop promoting idiots who make flat earth videos!
Is that hard to understand?
Why do you still post videos from FLAT EARTHERS in 2019?
https://kymkemp.com/2019/08/08/hispanic-drug-traffic-organization-grow-raided-k-9s-used-to-capture-suspects-says-trinity-county-sheriffs-office/#comment-848067
You have been told by at least a dozen people that you fail to reach people with your snide remarks, jabs, insults, and righteous indignation.
[edit] Facts, by themselves sit in a cue, waiting to used for a force of good.
You take facts and figures and do nothing with them that serves the bigger picture, they are only used for bully pulpit that simply reinforces a belief system that is incompatible with
Transforming a vision into a reality. [edit]
Look, let’s stop with the psychological evaluations of your fellow commenters. Brian has the right to talk about perceived fallacies in someone else’s discussion. You have the right to do it back but please minimize your comments on his personality. I’ve warned you before.
🌳🕯🤯For as long as the crowd has kept this thread going and the twist and turns it’s taken from the original article its amazing you people get up in the morning. Somebody needs to start a go fund me page for those two who caught for the original article. And your God came from the middle east.
Define “Reputable”.
I truly think you listen to Brian without actually fleshing out the nuances of people’s ability to transmit information.
It’s clear that there are conspiracies and there are those that are still in the theory stage.
If you are blindly following and running with Brians belief system, you are just a capable of being defined by his words, just as he is trying to define others by a narrow spectrum of debatable content produced by those people he’s condemned.
For example, James Corbett or the Corbett Report, and G. Edward Griffin are two of the most recent people he has condemned as lacking veracity.
G. EDWARD GRIFFIN is one of two people who conducted a very important interview with Norman Dodd in the early 80s. Norman Dodd was a primary investigator in the The Reese Committee Investigation into the role of tax exempt foundations.
https://www.garynorth.com/products/item9.cfm
//”The Hidden Agenda: the Norman Dodd Interview’ was conducted by Edward Griffin in 1982, on what appears to be a whim which resulted in one of the most intriguing stories of the 20th century; the 1953 Congressional Reece Committee to investigate tax exempt foundations. Dodd, who passed away shortly after the interview, is supported by historical records of Congressman Reece, Dr. Joseph E. Johnson, Carroll Quigley, Congressman Cox, and Rene Wormser.”//^
https://archive.org/details/DoddReportToTheReeceCommitteeOnFoundations-1954-RobberBaron
It would help you to understand the underlying perspective of those who are easily labeled “conspiracy theorists”. There is a real conspiracy at work, Kym, and it’s much harder to marginalize than laser beams, and flat earthers.
PLEASE, take a moment to look at the body of work produced by both of these men, and tell me whether or not you support Brian’s accusations that these people are conspiracy theorists.
Considering the Language being used by the FBI, calling someone a conspiracy theorist, is the equivalent of a domestic terrorists, this is a direct attack on our 1st Amendment, especially given the censorship that is happening to many who are speaking truth to Power.
It’s a very dangerous slope to start casting stones in this environment where language is being weaponized to inflame the tension’s between people who are just looking for answers, when the Mainstream News ha’s consistently failed us.
Just do me a favor and look at James Corbett, Tedx talk.
Or…his look at the assassination of MLK, on the 50th anniversary.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-truth-at-last-the-assassination-of-martin-luther-king/5634751
Then ask yourself, what is Brian truly doing to contribute to the conversation…?
Does he truly believe that he can parade his antagonistic rhetoric and claim to be “right”?
Does that not Reek of an Authoratarian in training ?
There’s plenty of room to exchange ideas, but his brand is bleeding into your brand, and as much as understand your frustration about Wacky far out “fallacious thinking “, of a few commenters,
the links I’ve posted are anything but fallacious.
Before you can judge someone, you really do need to look at the full scope of a person’s work, not to focus on pieces conveniently isolated so as to cast doubt on an entire lifetime of work.
One of the critiques of G Edward Griffin is that he believes in a the JFK assassination conspiracy theory that actually questions the Veracity of the Warren Commission Report.
I don’t think anyone truly worth their salt believes the lone gunman theory, or that Jack Ruby was able to get to Lee Harvey Oswald without some kind of conspiracy taking place.
These are two specific examples of Brian incorrectly condemning two people whose work has spoken for itself.
He has also called Agenda 21, a hoax, and another Conspiracy Theory.
Many people here have pointed to people with extensive knowledge and experience in this public private partnership, which we are seeing in programs and policies that are being adopted at the local level, which are having an affect on rural life, as with “Tom and his Veggie garden in those criminal smart pots”.
I merely point this out to show you that you must be careful of relying on Brian for your desktop facto “truth checker”, and whether or not it’s appropriate for you to let him condemn with your tacit approval.
People love and appreciate you for your local reporting.
Brian is free to express his opinion, and it should be done with a disclaimer as well.
I don’t rely on Brian. I’m perfectly capable of looking at crazy and saying—that’s crazy.
James Corbett touts so many conspiracy theories that I don’t even bother starting. Look he works for you. Fine. Just don’t expect me to be impressed by YouTube videos denying climate change https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huKY5DzrcLI.
I’m just not the type to think that random guy on the internet knows more than 97% of climate scientists. https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
^//”James Corbett touts so many conspiracy theories that I don’t even bother starting. Look he works for you. Fine. Just don’t expect me to be impressed by YouTube videos denying climate change”//^
I didn’t send you a link about climate change did I? Have I ever argued for or against Climate Change?
97% of scientists in Nazi Germany supported ethnic cleansing, but I don’t think they were without their own agenda….hmmmm.
Does that make sense to you?
Don’t get me started with scientists and doctors, before you start worshipping at that (satanic) Altar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
Climate changes every 24 hours!
Can you argue with that?
Just imagine your blind spots, that you know of.
Random guys don’t do Ted talks, they publish comic books.
Your bias is getting solidified, and it looks like you are just not feeling open to
Alternative view points, especially if you can dismiss, out of hand, people who question the narrative.
That’s an investigative journalists job.
It’s crazy. I’ve never pushed flat earth, laser beams, or Michelle theories, but you are painting me with the same brush.
So it’s probably the same as lumping you and Brian as the good cop bad cop of the SoHum Snowflakes….lol:)
Ok…. last one…
Two questions in one.
Did Lee Harvey Oswald kill JFK?
Who do you think killed MLK?
If you call people who question the official narrative on THE JFK CONSPIRACY, as conspiracy theorists , you are siding with THE WRONG PEOPLE, so it’s a good thing to flesh out where you stand on what’s “Reputable”, and what’s merely “Fallacious Thinking”.
My main concern is you understanding what Norman Dodd had to say…
If you listen to him, and read the report, and you still think there’s no conspiracy that’s working behind the scenes, I’ll just leave it there, and know I gave it my best shot.
I like Brian’s comments often (though note he is on moderation and he frequently gets mad at me for not doing what he wants me to), however, I felt the same way about facts before Brian. I graduated from Berkeley where facts and credible sources are drilled into you. You apparently don’t have my little prejudices…
“Credible sources”
are the people who brought you
LEE HARVEY OSWALD.
SIRHAN SIRHAN
James Earl Ray.
Do you see my point, Kym?
You Have Been Schooled Well.
I do realize that taking on the possibility of another paradigm, might be to much for you to digest.
I don’t blame you, Kym.
I still wish Santa Claus was real, and the tooth fairy, and all those other lies we grew up with.
Thanks, for giving me an opportunity to present you with another perspective.
Maybe your kids will be ones that will challenge you to see it differently. Who Knows…That’s Why We Have Kids, Right?
Goodnight
My kids weren’t brought up to believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Nor to believe that climate deniers were a great place to get information on other subjects.
Kym, I appreciate your commitment to higher levels of learning and education… However, don’t you think that the world may have gotten itself into an unequivocal factual hot stinkin mess? Also, don’t forget, some of the greatest advancements of human kind had absolutely nothing to do with University Education. Humans have accomplished great tasks, even before modren education.. I actually think sometimes people may have presented more attributes of intelligence in certain ways, just in terms of ingenuity.. Many of our forefathers and foremothers could actually fix things, and apply knowledge to real life.
I mean a lot of good “human facts” have done for us, mankind is at risk of tanking to whole ship! Not to say facts aren’t important.. Or Applicable, but just that also, there may be aspects missing if one just focuses on “facts”…
https://youtu.be/ocVzcfQhBwg
commerce clause used to break up the government abuse?
Sid,
~i missed this when it published June 26. Thank you much for bringing it to our attention.
The Commerce clause
BREAKING: IJ scores major U.S. Supreme Court victory!
It’s a short 3 mins. of ALLELEUJAH!
The Saints are marching in.
Berkeley? Oh man, that was a hot bed for hazardous waste dumping. They began their ‘investigation’ about it in 2002, but who knows what on before that date? Scary stuff right there, especially so for those who suffer with headaches, joint and muscle pain, fatigue, or any combo’s on the long list of symptoms from toxic waste exposure. I don’t have the list handy, but it’s online. This article is a flashback from the past though and is quite handy. http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2007-07-03/article/27431?headline=UC-Illegally-Buried-Thousands-Of-Truckloads-of-Toxic-Soil-In-Richmond-State-Says&status=301
I hope you weren’t there during the worst of the years. Yikes!
(the little Cern project there is/was also controversial, but I don’t have the energy to refind the scoop on that). Crazy stuff right there.
I hadn’t heard of this before. I remember reading, years ago, about a warship w/radiation contamination aboard, sunk out in the ocean waters of the San Francisco bay area. The article was about so many breast cancers in around Marin.
~worship and workshop and warship always get me. Ship/commerce.
Good find!
Did you ever answer the quiz I offered you? (about Treaties) Guess who thinks they own the oceans? Yep, the same one who the quiz answer is.
People all over the ww net are putting together the missing pieces of puzzles. Look her up on Ted talks and other talks. (oh, and don’t include the avg citizen into the ‘you own this’, … she’s talking to her key audience members which doesn’t include you, me and Joe next door.).
People crave truth so bad, they’re willing to go find it themselves.
hahaha, this is more OT (off topic), but did you catch that one tweet the other day where the Prez calls Cuomo(sp) straight up nuts? Even a rocket scientist can figure out why he’s so agreeable to the Dem’s red flag law. Boomerang! (there are over 680 documented cases against the nutty ones. Is this why TweetyBird doesn’t delete or censor them lol?).
BUT, with that said, that’s not something most constitutional people would ever agree to rooting for. We don’t rock like that. Even a psycho has the right to defend themselves from other psycho’s. They just don’t have the right to use it against innocent people. In fact, a lot of states are refusing to accept any more gun control laws at all, which is a good thing. The last thing I’d ever want is for the little wifey’s out there to have to give up their protection just because every weekend 30-40 more shootings occur in gun free zone Chicago.
Crap, I’m rambling again. But, things are getting kind of interesting in this real life soap opera we’re watching today.
shak,
@475 comments in six days, and still prevalent, it’s a challenge to get back to, or even remember, where we left off. I went to the quiz from the link and got brain fog. Senior moment. Can’t remember. OR, it was THE DAY AFTER (electric shut-down). About ocean owner-ship; isn’t it ridiculous, at the root of things, to think we own any part or parcel of Mother Earth? We’re just passing though. A spirit with a body.
“hahaha, this is more OT (off topic), but did you catch that one tweet the other day where the Prez calls Cuomo(sp) straight up nuts?”
~do to living under a canopy, i had dial-up connection for umpteen years. There was no reason to have a desire for Facebook or Twitter, or any of the other chat rooms. By the time high-speed connection arrived, i couldn’t have cared less.
You’ll eventually run across Cuomo’s Fredo meltdown. No biggie.
You ask me to watch a video by Corbett who touts a number of conspiracy theories including climate change denial…Then wonder why I don’t want to look at other videos you think are credible.
Look, I’ve got one life. If I looked at just one video suggested by every commenter on here, I’d be old (okay, older) without ever having time for things I know are of value. Write me off as unadventurous. I’m comfortable with my decisions.
SID, I totally understand that Norman Dodds endeavors are totally important to you. Appologizes for not digesting the info you’re presenting.. it might come as a surprise to some, but I am actually fairly busy.. ATM.. Winter time, I will have more time to understand more of this info.. You’re presenting…
What the flying F did happen to JFK and MLK..? Manufactured tragedies! Appalling.. Absolutely…
But TRB is also correct on some levels.. I agree with assessments of promoting fear consciousness.. at what point is it not healthy?
There are also bigger events on the Horizon, like fossil fuels,
Don’t you think the fossil fuel, Coal Industries have every intention of downing climate change for thier own self intrest? Are people who denying this information privy to actually doing harm to humankind? Shouldn’t folks be wanting to expose this level of thinking, instead of promoting false equations, and narratives?
I mean if Central can beilive in Flat Earth Idealogy, TRB can beilive in his assessments of information… (Even if presentation of credible source information is ignored.. )
https://youtu.be/srstQVfVNEM
Meet Jim Douglass
He sat through all 30 days of the 1999 MLK TRIAL.
A PACIFIST, AND A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING.
https://youtu.be/UUdqgD6-cLM
#Taxes, death and Trouble
https://youtu.be/JJs4E8t1tFg
This photo says it all.
SmallFry,
~about the flat earth contortions going on in here . . . in a comment 8 MONTHS AGO, i said it’s an interesting concept. So is healing w/urine, w/ food grade hydrogen peroxide, w/frequency, w/minerals, and so much more. However, none of those “interesting concepts” are on my to-do list. Not a priority. Don’t care. It’s not an issue. May change my mind and physically have to research should sickness visit.
Gratitude, SmallFry.
I thought the ‘fossil fuels’ was debunked years ago. Wasn’t it a big corporation that created the logo and stories that was taught to every child in school in order to create awe and appreciation?
Lately, people are once again discussing the California Continental Plate with it’s ocean caverns that submarines travel from certain states with certain ‘lakes’ to even the desert. The most fascinating part of those stories, imo, is the use of high tech hole boring machines that dissolve the earth instead of scattering it from this pile to that pile. But, we ask, where does it go? It STILL has to go somewhere. Well, they say, how are diamonds made? Carbon, pressure, …. to which everyone says,… ‘so, then, you’re saying that the cavern walls that had to be bored larger for the large subs are being supported with one of the strongest materials out there, aka diamonds?”…. They then nod and wink.
Is that for real?
I guess anything’s possible.
I, for one, don’t have a crystal ball or insider’s scoop or … whatever is needed to confirm or deny… but I do have an open mind and am anticipating the day when the awe is replaced with constructive questions that critical thinkers compile and FOIA documents reveal.
So, for now, it’s just fun learning something new and watching the video’s made to date. I think Gaia has the most telling ones, but there are still a few on YT that entice the curiosity gene.
Well shoot, I forgot where I was going with this.
Fear is always replace with knowledge. It’s natural to be afraid of things we DON’T know anything about. For instance, chances are, those who’ve collected honey are hardly ever terrified of honey bees. They’ve learned the tricks of the trade and are quite content around them.
Another for instance: Those who don’t know who and what is causing such turmoil for people around the world, cannot do anything about the turmoil. Those who educate themselves about it, otoh, know where and how to find more info in order to put a stop to the turmoil and ‘fear’.
“//I agree with assessments of promoting fear consciousness.. at what point is it not healthy?//”
It’s your “fear” of getting
1. Abated
2. Russets
3. APHID’S
4. MOLD
….or anything that will prevent you from bringing your season to close without major or minor issues.
You don’t passively sit at home worrying, you get your IPM hat on and you steer your ship where you need it to go.
Goal is being”bug /mold free”,
no choppers or chippers.
When you are proactive with your eyes on the horizon, you are a safe driver who will most likely get where you need to go.
It’s not the fear, that’s the issue, it’s the reality of making sure water is tested, the soil is tested, your paperwork is in order, not over or under watering, etc.
You pay attention, know your program, manage blind spots the best you can, and take care of business.
Now, you got some cousin that comes to help so you can take a breather. Do you want your cuzo, telling you not to be fear based? Saying you watch too much Murder Mountain, that you are too paranoid about growing your plants.
The point is, we all have our operating systems. If your cousin doesn’t show any ability to listen, and follow up when asked, are you going to feel confident if you ask him to repeat the water schedule and he doesn’t even bother to address your points….then you don’t have confidence in him.
Period.
Brian doesn’t inspire confidence when asked specific questions and he doesn’t answer.
In fact, your cousin is telling you that the people that you have learned from are nutjobs, and hacks, but you know that works for you and your familia.
Adios, Tio.
So after all your weather modification, agenda 21, anti-vax, inability to say Sandy Hook was real, admitting you take info from flat earthers –
All you can do is revert to JFK as a litmus?
Dude. Even Wiki has balanced reports on the true investigating – that in the end pointed to at least 1 shot coming from the grassy knoll.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_conspiracy_theories
(See allegations of multiple gunmen)
I’ve read more books about than most. What can I say about it;
I dont know what happened.
And that’s where you and I differ.
You still think I have a believe system to insult or attack: I dont.
I know that I dont know what happened to JFK.
I know the Warren Commission is regarded as fallable and for good reason.
I have an idea who was involved beyond Oswald. I dont promote what I dont know.
You believe you do know, and you promote what you dont know.
And you believe you know about weather modification/agenda 21/illuminati/mk ultra/who knows what next.
When it comes down to it, all you can do is post a Corbett youtube?
Sorry.
You must do better.
Excuse me.
Did you say that the “conspiracy theory ” that
challenges the narrative that
#LEE HARVEY OSWALD
#SIRHAN SIRHAN
#JAMES EARL RAY
WERE THE SOLE PERPETRATORS OF
#JFK
#RFK
#MLK
?
This is a defining moment where what you believe to be true and what you have been repeatedly fed as the truth constitutes your
” little prejudices”?
This may just be the first day of the rest of your life. …
Or not…
I have done better.
I’ve given people reasonable and articuable suspicion.
William Pepper knows that as well
“The jury was clearly convinced by the extensive evidence that was presented during the trial that, in addition to Mr. Jowers, the conspiracy of the Mafia, local, state and federal government agencies, were deeply involved in the assassination of my husband. The jury also affirmed overwhelming evidence that identified someone else, not James Earl Ray, as the shooter, and that Mr. Ray was set up to take the blame.”
https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/opinion/contributors/2018/04/06/opinion-dont-forget-results-1999-mlk-trial/494668002/
If Kym doesn’t understand why this generation doesn’t buy into the manufactured reality, it’s because the weed is so strong.
Questioning the assassination of JFK,RFK, AND MLK, has put people on the conspiracy theorist category for over 50 years
The conspiracy theories just take an incredible amount of time and effort to flush out.
People who believe the manufactured narrative are not evil, maybe lazy, but not bad people. ..
Or just “well schooled”, as John Taylor Gatto would say.
.https://www.newsociety.com/Books/W/Weapons-of-Mass-Instruction
I always try to do better.
I just don’t go Round boasting how I’m right.
When you label people who question the mainstream narrative as CT’s, you put yourself in the same position of the people who want to stop the truth from coming out.
1933 Germany is on y/our doorstep.
#weaponsofmassinstruction
“If Kym doesn’t understand why this generation doesn’t buy into the manufactured reality, it’s because the weed is so strong.”
Oh gosh, needle haystack. It’s like realizing that the amount of water surrounding us – streams, rivers, oceans, and prime water beneath our feet, breeds the phenomenal amount of intelligence displayed in here, as corollary.
Glass-up toast to you and me and us and We, the Triangle People, in our struggle to remove the willingly-worn blinders of community, close and far.
Honor the Trinity without name.
Love, light and life.
//”I know that I dont know what happened to JFK.”//
He died of at least one shot to the head in front of the world, and they are still pushing LHO, as the lone gunman.
I fall into the category of not believing that narrative, because I’ve listened and read a shit ton of people who have a different version of events.
That’s what I call reasonable and Articuluble Suspicion.
Just keep brushing your opinion of flat earther, fire laser beaming , Agenda 21 denying bulls hit with the paint roller of righteous indignation and let’s see if your canvas is a Picasso, a Rembrandt, or Dali.
Right now this blog is a Jackson Pollack.
I’m trying to help Kym understand that Berkeley doesn’t have all the answers to the hard questions.
What I did ask her to do was to listen to Norman Dodd, speak to the effects that tax exempt foundations had on shaping our society not in the least was transforming educational system in the early 1900’s.
If you dig deeper, you find that Mr. Dodd, as a lead investigator for the Reese Committee, sent one of his top staffers, a woman lawyer, to spend 2 weeks looking the archives of the Carnegie Endowment, a tax exempt foundation.
What she found out, literally ruined her.
It’s my belief that this is the Rosetta Stone to understanding the “who” was instrumental in steering the change in educational system, and with a aim at changing society, the “what” they were looking to achieve, and “How” they were going to do it, and
WHY!?
You and Kym might have a better understanding of why people like me see it differently.
You can’t see the beauty of the sea, if you don’t like diving deep.
I’ve gone deep. Of course I’ll never be able to unknow what I’ve learned.
As they say, once you beat cancer, it’s your
Responsibility as a survivor to share your story.
It’s my wish to merely help people who have that feeling, that something doesn’t add up.
The truth will allow you to free y/ourself from the illusion of a manufactured reality, so you may construct your own “free” from “ties that bind”.
Like you said,
“GOVERNING IS A BITCH”
It also demands more and more of our hard earned time and energy to keep the bloated government growing.
That’s why I’m against the increase of GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION and interference in our lives.
“Hey Alexa”…order me a copy of the Reese Committee Hearings.
Go wrap your head around the mother of all conspiracies, and then tell me if you still want to bitch about whether flat earth, sandy hook, lasers still matter to you.
I want to you to at least get yourself caught up on this subject.
Goodnight
You have a hard time making a point with few words, dont you?
Theres no need to conflate whackjob nutbag conspiracies like lasers, flat earthers or fake shootings with real issues.
Unfortunately you dont seem to understand this simple concept.
It makes you look crazy when you jump around from 1 debunked item to 10 others, than fall onto JFK as if theres relation to his assassination.
You’ve let yourself go too far down the rabbit hole.
It wont be today or tomorrow, but I hope you see that one day.
It’s a lonely place yo live and die.
Ostracizing yourself from the real world.
And it seems you havnt learned much. After all, when it came down to it you asked Corbett and Griffin to make your points.
Those are not credible sources for information.
Sorry, I’m not going to take your word.
If you dont have the courage to speak up about blatant, obvious lies and propaganda like flat earth, laser beam fires, agenda 21 etc…you most likely dont have what it takes to stand up to real power.
If hanging out with flat earthers makes you feel intelligent, I suggest you up your game and challenge yourself more.
Fail on every count.
When people throw the word conspiracy theory around, like loose change, they should at least have a little historical precedent on the illusion that a large part of the world lives under.
JFK, RFK, and MLK is the nexus of the conspiracy theory movement of Kym”s generation.
It’s more than appropriate to start there, to show how a conspiracy of murder pales in comparison to the coverup.
There’s plenty you don’t know or understand…it’s in plane site.
911 beat you down real good.
You know what you need to do.
Stop deflecting when you are given a task.
Is that better?
From what I’ve seen, Im not sure you can handle the truth.
7 miles on a dirt road, rural internet, maybe that’s your problem.
Get to work, and learn your assignment, bucko.
No need to respond until you make an effort.
Ya. Somehow bad internet and rural living keep me understanding the flat earth truth.
Lol
Yeah, just keep focusing on fighting all those conspiracy theories on here, protecting those poor undecided minds from exposure to trauma. Have you seen what’s out there? You aren’t doing shit to save anyone buddy, but I’ll keep letting you know how much your work is important to saving humanity.
you are really doing a great job.!
You do the predictable for the ungrateful and as long as you spend your time chasing your tail, you won’t be able to do a damn thing about anything you are upset about.
. Just keep up the carnival buddy, trump is probably the best friend your team has had, you just don’t have eyes to see it.
You are actually a better asset for Trump, cause it’s people like you who will chase the ones in the middle away from the democratic ticket.
That’s why I am smiling, knowing you will be doing this for 4 more years.
Really?? Your de one SID who be all thrown up Norman Dodd, Russia is going to take over the whole damn Free world.. Turn the world from individualism to collectivism… And Trump isn’t in on that?…Pfft..
‘We found out, Doctor, that these foundations had as their objective the orientation of the people of this country toward an idea of collectivism, thereby nullifying for good and for all the commitment of our country to individualism which was the feature of the country at the beginning.’ Control of the $$$, and the Education..
.. I was wondering what you were talking about With Norman Dodd, so I googled the basics, much easier read…
Thanks Pequneo Frito, I knew that you’d be the one to chase down that silly conspiracy theory.
Yeah, brother…Norman Drops some incredible truths.
Thanks for going deeper.
It’s not the Russian takeover, it’s the crafting and shaping of society’ so it can be merged with a soviet style
Of government.
You b a
bright star in the western sky.
Sid, I’m not convinced he’s in on it. I’m more convinced he’s the main one that’s stepped up to stop it. It’s been ongoing for a long long time, as you know, and not just Russia.
In the war between good and evil, even the evil one proudly exhibits his ‘power’ by offering his enemy that One Last Chance at the Crossroads. That one window of opportunity. It’s ours for the taking. Do we want Liberty or do we want to continue down the path of enslavement?
One thing we have learned about him, is, he gives it his all. He’s determined to give the power back to the people and that’s exactly what he’s been doing. The rest is up to us. Will we embrace Liberty for all it’s worth and keep it or will we just go back to sleep after celebrating non stop for a week? If we go back to sleep, that’s it, that’s all she wrote. The pain will be 10 fold, especially to the younger generation who tasted true liberty for the first time in their lives.
There won’t be another chance. This is it.
So, is he a good guy or is he a bad guy? To be honest, it doesn’t matter. All that matters is that *this* guy is determined to make us well aware of what TRUE liberty is .. or was. It’s up to us. I, for one, am willing to work hard for Liberty, even if it means having to stifle any and all confirmation bias.
You’re well versed, but even the well versed sometimes forget the nuances that can make the biggest differences.
Srubbed but not forgotten: https://clintonwhitehouse1.archives.gov/White_House/EOP/pcsd/info/executive-order.html
Pelosi promoting A21 at senate meeting, back in 92 I think it was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhK8YG8jw78
https://youtu.be/qlBX6UoBfx8
The more I learn, the more i know there is more to learn.
Just have been busy trying to distill what’s going on with the static.
I listened to a documentary about the rise of Trump, and it made me realize why he resonated with people.
He spoke his truth as he saw it, which made a lot of people uncomfortable, and the entire establishment was against him.
Since I despise the Washington bourgeois and establishment, and the blood suckers who feed relentlessly on the people like parasites on the host, it made me smile he was pointing out that Hillary should be investigated for her destruction of evidence.
It made me appreciate wiki leaks and those who expose the abuse of power, and the unintended consequences it creates for the peaceful populations.
I’ve been trying to figure out how to get through to People like Brian and Kym, who hold on to a Paradigm about their defense of a system that is focused on dividing communities and families with this campaign to take more money from families and transfer it to government under the pay to play.
It’s getting acute.
It’s bad to see Trauma used to silence people with ideas that are deemed conspiracies.
Oh well.
#Taxes, death, and Trouble
This I know…
Shh! I’m silencing you…On my website…Where I think your theories are unsubstantiated…if not wildly crazy….Shh…
Wait…what is this? You are still here.
Sadly, it appears that I have not silenced you..Apparently, you have the magical power to get past my delete button–
Maybe it has to do with me and my belief that you get to say your say and…hey, we get to say ours back….Could it be?
Maybe…here’s the crazy thought I have…Maybe, you aren’t being silenced.
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/08/14/google-machine-learning-fairness-whistleblower-goes-public-says-burden-lifted-off-of-my-soul/
Question.
If this guy hadn’t leaked these documents, would we still be in “CT” mode about the abuse of “Algorithms”, and the obvious intent to conspire to manipulate?
I don’t blame you for being skeptical, but there’s quite a bit of information on the censorship of ideas /people that don’t agree with the the manufactured agenda.
You allowing the discussion is absolutely necessary for our society to use every platform to help people take responsibility for digging deeper.
The issue I have with people who want to silence a marginalized viewpoint is that that themselves seek to limit the discussion to a very narrow set of talking points.
I hope you can understand the importance of that.
We should all seek to do better with how we deal with uncomfortable ideas.
I hope you have a moment to listen to the project veritas exposure of BigTech.
Thank you.
Beautifully said, but I would replace the word Trauma with the word Drama.
Ephesians 6:10-18 is over the top important.
Candace Owens, Scott Pressler, Joy Villa, Will Johnson, …. have all been labeled ‘white’ supremacists. Reread Ephesians 6:10-18 and let that sink in.
That video nails it, and that’s just ONE out of the many issues not just here in the good old usa, but GLOBALLY. Reread Ephesians 6:10-18.
No president has been prayed for by so many people than this President. Globally they pray for him to help lead us out of the darkness. That’s why the darkness is attacking prayerful people all across the globe. That’s why the darkness pits religions against religions, colors against colors, parties against parties… they want us divided by race, religion, economics, education, and everything in between. The they want that so bad they’ve developed ‘mass trauma’ techniques to produce it.
Joseph Goebbel’s famous quote of repetition is in use on every blog/article/audio known to mankind, especially here on Kym’s blog. Some are easily fooled, others are not.
People the world over are praying for the scales of ignorance to fall from their eyes. Kerplunk.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_whistleblowers
There’s no glory on being condemned by your own government, under the threat of financial ruin, and even death for exposing the crimes of the privileged class, when the government has done an incredible amount of damage, all over the world, in our name.
#protect whistle blowers
This article covers another one.
It’s verified on other source outlets, but I’ll save them the Pelosi ‘smear campaign’ rhetoric scheme and not post them. https://truepundit.com/video-police-bomb-squad-there-were-snipers-on-the-rooftops/
James Corbett has a terrible reputation and hosts Stefan Molyneux… I only have so much time in my life and reading my comment section is eating up more of this one wild and precious life than I would like. I’m not going to spend it listening to YouTube videos by people who deny climate change.
“James Corbett has a terrible reputation”
This sounds like you are listening to people who have an agenda, not James Corbett.
The problem is we are flooded with too much information, that we rely on people who follow our own confirmation bias, like a cliff notes from the Left and Right side.
Just listen to Norman Dodd on tax exempt foundations and I’ll leave you alone.
https://youtu.be/YUYCBfmIcHM
Sugar and spice is a tough habit to kick.
People can still be respected for asking questions. If no one challenges the narrative, then we are 1933 GERMANY all over again.
#BACKTOTHEFUTURE
It’s after midnight. Not tonight.
Jim Douglass
“JFK and the Unspeakable.”
What about people who deny the manufactured narrative of …
#Lee Harvey Oswald
#Sirhan SirHan
#James Earl Ray
The people who perpetrated this,
still run the show.
Everything you have been fed about the world outside your personal first hand experience, and the first hand experience’s that have been shared with you is a
#manufactured construct.
It’s a ride!
We have to choose between love and fear.
…and between smart pots and plastic pots.
Is there a point to all this?
Let’s find a point.
https://youtu.be/KgzQuE1pR1w
Bill Hicks 3 minutes
~Bill Hicks, one of the top comedians.
If you haven’t watched Bill Burr, he’s another great showman of comedy.
Tegridy Weed Pharms…
https://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s22e04-tegridy-farms
Opps, Wrong link! Watch at own risk, lol fing South Park.. mostly lame these days.. so stupid..
But, this I thought was funny…
Tegridy Farms take 2
https://videosift.com/wtf/video/Tegrity-Farms
^^^ THIS ^^^
That was stellar!
TY Shak! It is Stella THX!
People who deny climate change? That would be over 75% out of 100% of scientists wouldn’t it?
No, 75%-100% of guests on Alex laser beam Jones.
Hey, I found it. Forbes is the one who cracked that case. Out of 10,000 scientists, only 77 took the survey. Just 75 of those 77 agreed that it might be man related. https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/07/17/that-scientific-global-warming-consensus-not/#56d618173bb3
This article breaks the Forbes article and survey down even better, imo. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/18/about-that-overwhelming-98-number-of-scientists-consensus/
Ahhhh Kym?
Sounda like a conspiracy theory, Shakespeare….
You know that stuff won’t fly on this thread.
No matter how much light you shine. …
You gotta want to see how it feels to expand….
Check out the Doddman!!
I listened once, but need to rehear it. Can you provide me a fresh link to the one you feel really nails it? (I have about 100 video’s in my ‘to watch when I stop scrolling’ list lol).
https://youtu.be/5tu32CCA_Ig
https://youtu.be/8irQifrpmEY
The represent us video is spot on until… there it is… create a crisis, offer a solution end. They’re peppier and hip, light bouncy energy, to play on the emotion. Nope, you can’t legislate morality. Already the rules are there, it’s just a matter of enforcing them equally across the board.
How is this accomplished? By a whole lot of housecleaning. The prison system, the DOJ, the depts and agencies in every branch, the local yokels, all of the above are supposed to ALREADY be held accountable to the people. There’s a loophole behind every legislative law/act. Find it.
Dodd is spot on too. Slush funds are us. Same with the money laundering ‘book’ deals, art, and ‘charities’. Speaking of both foundations and charities, this guy from Haiti sums it up extremely well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZCd-T_7WE
Thanks for the links.
Because he uses his real name and reads and deciphers real documents? He is a critical thinker. Sometimes spot on, sometimes swayed by confirmation bias, … but always honest with his own conclusions that he shares with others as food for thought for their own speculative comparisons.
It’s impossible to convince anybody of anything if they don’t want to be convinced, yet the media constantly drills narratives into our heads until we have no other thoughts but theirs, if we don’t stay open to speculations. The narratives are so fiercely protected that one of these days a critical thinker will come along and expose the fact that the thoughts inside the minds of psycho’s were inserted into them on purpose. What then? Mandated robotic chips that makes people one and the same as a solution to the corporate made crisis?
You just have to step outside your comfort zone. I mean it’s not too hard to find a long history of people being lied to…..
https://youtu.be/5tu32CCA_Ig
“Corruption is legal”
Simple to the point about who gets represented in our system.
That is a good video.
Gotta give credit where it’s due.
OK, the truth is, Bigfoot shot JFK with a laser, I was there, and I was the spotter. The tricky part was the earth was fucking flat, so the ballistic program Trump set up for us was bogus, sooo, we had to pull off another bong rip of “medicine” to compensate for the LGBTQ syntax, (google it) and guess what? Boom, the next fucking rotten rat got in office! I hope this clears stuff up a little bit… Oh yeah, the goddamn chemtrails didn’t affect the laser at all, so I call bullshit on them too. Be well!
It does, it does, but actually the Lizard peeps faked the moon landing.. The moon is also flat.. Obama turned all the frogs Out.. The Aliens put a crop circle in my canno patch, Trump never collided with Russia, Taking a piss on a cold day can cause weather modification, BigFoot threw a super ragger in the woods with the Ewoks..the Death Star was built with hemp, Bernie Sanders and Cardi B do a music Vid.. Trump releases his Taxes with write offs to Stormy.. And California finally put prop 65 warnings spelled out in chem tails across the sky.. take it easy!
Ah my sassy quatch!!!!
I knew it was you. ….<3
Thanks bang, that was a good laugh.
I gotta remember, humor is always effective.
Cheers on it.
https://kymkemp.com/2019/08/08/hispanic-drug-traffic-organization-grow-raided-k-9s-used-to-capture-suspects-says-trinity-county-sheriffs-office/#comment-847888
In this comment, Central gives a link to a flat earthers YouTube video who says our fires are started by lasers. Keep the view count low, dont watch it. It’s a mind-retardation video.
Anyway. Central says that at 6:57 there is proof of DEWs, or space lasers, or plane beams or something. The video @ 6:57 has a screenshot from another video.
Centrals “proof”? Well, I took a screenshot and it is below.
It’s a fire vortex. Simple shit unless your a flat earther.
Ventral probably has seen the original video, that this picture came from and is ignoring it. Because it shows the fire vortex in motion…not a space laser.
So…now I’ve spent 30 seconds to DEBUNK Central again.
This is also the video Shak said was “powerful”. Wow.
If Central, Shak and Sid cant tell each other any truths, why do they think they can tell us any truth?
“I dont care if Central thinks the Earth is flat”– Shak
“I listen to people who do ( think the earth is flat) -Sid
They cant tell anyone any truths.
They dont have any.
Losing your grip. B
“//They cant tell anyone any truths.
They dont have any//:
SHAK, and Central and many others have always contributed to the discussion and provided links to things you don’t have to agree with.
It’s fine.
It’s honestly a waste of time to break down fortified walls, and expect to change anyone’s mind if they aren’t interested.
I’ve tried to leave you a very good story to look into and only have heard from Small Fry, on the tax exempt foundations.
There’s also the fact that after the 60s, people turned against the government and the corporate war machine, and there are many many wonderful people who were shaped as a result of conspiracies to murder people in front of the world.
That’s the real danger,
not flat earth, not laser beams, not sandy hook, not Alex Jones.
You are further isolating yourself and minimizing your real ability to make any real change, and I understand how frustrating it can be.
doing a very good job at convincing anyone else who doesn’t already believe the way you do, and shows you just how much energy we all waste trying to argue and defend belief system’s that don’t make sense to others, especially when people have so little time.
It’s a collective hive mind…just keep adding to the knowledge base, and maybe you can grow old and finally rest knowing it was all part of the ride.
Sid,
I would love to be on good terms with you and everyone, drink cups of tea and what not…
But if you continously defend or deny or ignore these obvious fallacies that I can point out from any of you, it doesn’t help.
I cant put any stock in “truth seekers” who cant be self critical.
Why wont you also say, more politely than me, that this photo is not a laser. There is no proof of lasers. No DEW evidence nothing.
Further, Shak saying these fires are part of Agenda 21 is also false, if there is no proof of DEWs and lasers.
It also calls into question, on top of everything else I’ve given, the whole Agenda 21 reality you and the other 2 live in.
Now, if you want to ignore how much you might have wrong, why should I try to find what you might have right?
If your honest with yourself as a “truthseeker”, I believe you have some truth to speak.
Or, you can make fun of my rural living and dirt road more, while I associate you as a laser beaming flat earther A21 funny guy.
I really prefer the we all be honest, but I’m willing to play any game.
I believe we are all honest, but can be blind to manipulation and manufactured consent.
On both sides of the debate.
The real issue is who benefits.
QuI Bono.
Again Norman Dodd and the Reese Committee hearings.
Why is it so hard to put down the paint roller and pick up the detail brush.
It’s a waste of time for you to keep accusing people of beliefs they may or may not hold dear to.
Everything you’ve pointed out is more like seasoning to the main meat of the issue.
Looking deeper into how we got here is vital.
The assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK have been at the heart of why we as a nation struggle with why people still believe the main stream spin doctors when they were instrumental in pushing the coverup.
Nothing has changed with Deep State,
Most people want a simple easy explanation for everything, as Kym has said, so that’s the story that gets told.
It is why No one believes the Epstien suicide story…
Smoke and mirrors, to protect a blackmail program.
How else can you understand the fact that how representative’s don’t represent, in that corruption is legal video. .
As someone else just recently said…why think of zebras when you hear hoofbeats? Really, nearly all of the time you are going to see horses when you turn around. Sure you could occasionally be right but you will almost always be wrong. Why not up your odds, look at the facts and think what is most likely, not what is most exciting or convoluted?
What if you happen to be in the Serengeti?
If you are hanging around Zebra herds, then it makes more sense to think zebra rather than horses (She said patiently—)
Sometimes you lack a sense of humor. (He said patiently –)
Sometimes when sorting through a series of comments which include people calling me a crack whore and inviting me to suck on their…er…bong, I temporarily misplace it. My apologies.
*the spirit in me bows to the spirit in you*
The fighter in me bows to the fighter in you.
I would bow to you both, but I was just ran over by a pack of reindeer.
My back hurts.
Snort!
I used to say that but then I was looking around the grounds at the UC vet school and it was zebras making the hoof beats. Maybe it’s always better to look first if it’s important enough to need action.
Really? You want me to spend time I could be writing searching through Shak, Sid, and CH’s YouTube videos? Nope not happening. You look. If you say it’s sensible, I’ll give it a look.
Guest and all besides Kym,
How about stop dicking around with donkeys?
The issue is does Central have a space laser or a fire vortex?
Stop with the animal anologies and get real.
Kym.
“Corruption is Legal”
https://youtu.be/5tu32CCA_Ig
———–
Don’t forget results of 1999 MLK trial!
“The jury was clearly convinced by the extensive evidence that was presented during the trial that, in addition to Mr. Jowers, the conspiracy of the Mafia, local, state and federal government agencies, were deeply involved in the assassination of my husband. The jury also affirmed overwhelming evidence that identified someone else, not James Earl Ray, as the shooter, and that Mr. Ray was set up to take the blame.”
How do you like those hooves?
This is the point. You have been deceived your whole life into believing the facts as they are produced and controlled by the ministry of main stream media.
You were 8 years old when this happened? Did you grow up being told that James Earl Ray was responsible?
We all were.
Some people don’t like the easy answers if they don’t reveal the truth.
You are obviously more comfortable in your confidence about what confirms or denys the truth.
Facts are great, but where were they between 1968 and 1999 as it pertained to the conspiracy theories that circulated about murder and subsequent cover up of MLK?
“If we don’t learn from History, we are doomed to repeat it”
You OK with that?
#1933 Germany
It could also just be that the cows finally came home… lol.. Why would one only expect horses?
There you go with the game.
“Seasoning to the main meat”
If your seasoning is lasers and a21 and faked shootings, than this must be a dinner in Hogwarts: because I dont see the meat.
And your magic laser wand isn’going to make it appear.
I told you the one video was good. And those are points made by reputable organizations and sourced data.
Quite the opposite of everything you’ve been defending or promoting with Shak and Central, that I confront with evidence and common sense.
Get honest dude.
Your grabbing anything you can. You’ve gone from Agenda 21 to mind control to blah blah blabbylon.
Now all you can do is cling on to JFK….guess what.
Your not doing any new research on JFK.
All your doing is spitting the latest propaganda from Infowars groupies.
And now that I’ve shown theres nothing to your groups arguments….you go back 60 year old questions…
I’m not going to ignore your prior statements, and I’m not taking the bait for your new squirmy get out of jail attempt of conspiracy babble.
I’ll enjoy my tea alone, it seems.
Geez, just lost a massive response that wasn’t throwing mud back.
When i speak to the deeper divide, the disconnect we have, I often refer to the root cause.
It’s much like focusing on the symptoms of a deeper problem than addressing the surface issues.
JFK, RFK, MLK, are all irrefutable examples of the division we are experiencing in trying to nail down a truth.
As Kym has poignantly stated, why would she question the simple answer to a problem, or about an issue, when it’s obviously more convenient to go with the narrative, and call those ideas that challenge those simple, often manufactured Narratives, as conspiracy theories, thereby marginalizing those who continue to ask questions.
The JFK, RFK, MLK MURDER, and subsequent cover up, is an important aspect of my philosophy.
Coretta Scott King had to wait until 1999 until her beliefs were validated. If your family member was killed, and the perpetrators were never brought to justice, would you ever find peace, would you ever stop in your pursuit to hold those accountable for their actions?
The Kennedy family, and our country still hasn’t gotten justice, and because of that we will have a difficult time knowing peace.
No justice, No peace.
Know justice, know Peace.
https://youtu.be/5tu32CCA_Ig
When corruption has been legalized, as plain as the above video presentation points out, we are living with a cancer and helpless to fight it, if we can’t expose the disease to the light, and change the system that protects the cancerous system.
Cancerous is a perfect word for the effects of the unchecked war that is being waged today against our ability to get to the root cause of the disease.
Y/our actions are merely symptoms of a deeper pain that we know exists, and can’t seem to find a solution for, except to beat up on your community for not addressing the ROOT CAUSE OF OUR SUFFERING.
enjoy your bitter sweet tea.
Try not to rephrase something someone has said so that they don’t recognize it.
One my few pet peeves as well. If you are going to say what I said you better quote it or be damn accurate.
But, to Sid’s point: often time the simple narrative is offered for quick and easy digestion. After all most consumers have short attention spans. But, sometimes, it turns out we are standing in the friggin’ Serengeti and those are zebras.
One of my pet peeves is adding the word theory to the word conspiracy.
It’s the good cop bad cop snowflakes of The Emerald Triangle Theme Park
Also, people who don’t look at a historical precedent of a system that is corrupt and expect to dismiss what is in the public record.
Maybe that’s just part of living in a place surrounded by good, rural, god fearing, patriotic, law abiding citizens.
Corruption is LEGAL
https://youtu.be/5tu32CCA_Ig
this might help people understand the racket they call the USA Inc
“One of my pet peeves is adding the word theory to the word conspiracy.”
~it’s a derogatory term for critical thinkers.
I have no problem with law, justice, or anyone enforcing the law. I do object to pretending that some mafia-style corporate organization is somehow the imputed delegate of my rights, and that it has the power to force me to pay for its activities without my consent, that it is the final arbiter of all violence in some arbitrary territory, and that i have no right to resist it.
Those are the features that comprise the differences between law and a State.
Conclusive presumptions affecting protected interests:
A conclusive presumption may be defeated where its application would impair a party’s constitutionally-protected liberty or property interests. In such cases, presumptions have been held to violate a party’s due process and equal protection rights.
Vlandis v. Kline (1973) 412 US, 44, 449, 93 S.Ct. 2230, 2235; Cleveland Bd. of Ed v. LaFleur (1974) 414 US 632, 639-640, 94 S.Ct. 1208, 1215- presumption under Illinois law that unmarried fathers are unfit violates process.
Clarify please?
~some are playing chess whiles others are playing checkers.
The ones playing checkers do not want to play chess.
You do know TRB, that there are forums that you can directly take on Flat Earthers, if you so desire.. why continue to demand repentance from Central for simply mentioning Flat Earth Theories?
Remember RB, 97.69 percent of statistics are complete bullshit! If you hear hoofbeats, expect horses, not zebras…
And if it’s not broke, don’t fix it until it is…
https://kymkemp.com/2019/08/08/hispanic-drug-traffic-organization-grow-raided-k-9s-used-to-capture-suspects-says-trinity-county-sheriffs-office/#comment-847647
// “Fourth, why look for some wild theory to fit the facts when there is a simple explanation.”//
It was the context of your words , Kym, when it’s easier to listen to a manufactured narrative, then question it.
You are just a reporter, I keep forgetting that takes up most of your time.
Reporting on local news.
You merely move information from one place to another. There’s a difference between reporting and investigative journaliam.
It’s the reason the LONE GUNMAN theory is still being held up as the murderer of JFK. …over 50 years later.
Who has time to question the narrative, on a level that demands a PhD level dissertation approach, and not write a book to fund the operation, or have another job that allows you the time to investigate.
The easier option is to go with the easy answer. Just understand the importance of limitations you have when you expect a basic link to a story will help you stay in your comfort zone. So much information in books and lectures that sometimes don’t get wide circulation or attention in our modern day news cycles. People don’t have the attention span to spend time on something they aren’t interested in.
That’s a Confirmation of the pace of our modern life, and the over abundance of shit programming and (mis)information that is everywhere.
Ask yourself why, again, WHISTLE-BLOWERS, end up dead, or financially ruined, or both for exposing those uncomfortable truth’s that expose the corruption of the rich and powerful.
Of course you don’t have time for conspiracy theories, but again who needs to get to the #root cause of society that might punish people who question the narrative.
#Corruption is legal.
#CONSPIRACY THEORIST? OR
#SOMEONE WHO DOESN’T BELIEVE THE EASY EXPLANATION
#SUGAR AND SPICE
https://youtu.be/xvzZ56ZbWy8
Graham is generally considered s psuedo-archeologist who promotes the ancient atlantis/wise culture.(That couldnt develop writing)
He draws what he wants onto points (star aligning) and calls it science.
Guess what. I can draw a Harley on a bunch of stars diagram…..but it dont mean squat.
But who cares…facts dont matter any more.
Graham has been doing what many people have been been doing for years.
Looking into previously held beliefs and challenging the assumption that they are forever true.
“Hancock has stated, all the way through, that he connects scientific theories and disciplines. He may then draw his own conclusions as he wishes but all of his work is referenced.”
“Archaeological theory is constantly being updated in light of new evidence. Most of the evidence is not scientific. Hancock deals in geology and astronomy and carbon dating while archaeology deals in conclusions that fit with existing flawed models.”
Little side note.
Graham’s grandfather had been in Egypt in the early 1900s. Graham sneaks up to the top of one of the pyramids in Egypt, and sees some initials along a date, carved into the stone, he calls his dad later to ask where his grandpa was on that date.
His dad called back and said, “…on that date, grandpa was standing on top on a pyramid in Egypt. “
https://youtu.be/REC-KognQEI
“Waters of the United States rule”
I be honest with you.
Theres way too much going on with modern day attacks on family farms, to care about those things that are considered side issue to the Government’s Growing control and authoritarian push to control what you can do on your land.
https://youtu.be/qlBX6UoBfx8
When the government can treat people like peasants on their land, we have a problem.
And squash those messages of hope, right?
It’s good to be critical. It wears on a person to be a perpetual cynic.
The video was for Sid, Shak, CHC and those seeking a way through this mess We are in.
https://youtu.be/qlBX6UoBfx8
Mister Rover,
overlooking a government dredged river of discontent
Can take generations of
Land owners and make them rent
We are being put to task of defending those rights, liberties, against a growing threat of attacks on the private property,
24/7
365
It’s bad enough the cost of doing the business of life demands very few mistakes if you want to leave anything for the next generation of serfs.
#neofuedalism
Lao Tzu
Art of War
Good to brush up…
They dont need more bad information from bad actors.
What mess are they navigating?
The laser lies? The faked shootings? Agenda 21? Atlantis lost? Reptiles and Greys? MK ultra? Michelle is a man?
How about you link them to a video that either discusses mental therapy of addiction to paranoia, or a 101 of what is real evidence.
It’s frustrating enough no one else helps correct these obvious fallacies they’re pushing here, but then you go pour more gas on the fire.
Shit, they haven’t even addressed my expose of their “laser” evidence….
Not 1 word. 1000 words of diversion but let’s not say Central has a shit video and zero evidence.
“Sometimes we’re in the Serengeti”
No. They’re not. They’re in a delusion.
And your supporting it and nurturing it.
Messages of hope from bad actors are recruitment tactics.
ISIS knows this, why dont you?
Besides, I am going to speak to this point, your Ideas of systematic control is also a dangerous delusion.. Just look what happened to the Tibetans because China has an Idea that “All religion is poision”.. Mandating peoples belief is also a dangerous form of extremism TRB…
Yes, it is true that mandating belief is a form of extremism that causes harm…Arguing against false beliefs though is what we should all do.
Kym,
~do you believe you’re a U.S. Citizen? And, if so, why?
Do you still believe your flat earthers proof of DEWs?
So, then, you’re trying to mandate arguing against perceived interpretations that were falsely arrived at for arguments sake?
Most of us believe we should hold honest debate about the honest pro’s and con’s of every issue. Arguing twisted versions of truth is highly frowned upon by most. Attacking the person instead of debating the issues, is kindergarten play and not worthy of our time or energy.
That’s why most of us ignore certain posters (the multiple singular).
But, it’s difficult to ignore you, Kym, because we worry about you. Are you on new meds for your lyme disease? I hope you’re feeling okay.
False Beliefs.
Says who?
Goebbels 1 and 2.
So, you think it’s better to let Central, Shak and Sid tell everyone they have proof of DEWs at our fires?
Even after I’ve shown they obviously have no proof, or logic?
Please explain how “truthseekers” promoting a lie is better than promoting the truth.
Thanks.
“The truth was a mirror in the hands of God. It fell, and broke into pieces. Everybody took a piece of it, and they looked at it and thought they had the truth.”
― Mawlana Jalal-al-Din Rumi
So you are also having difficulties differentiating a fire vortex from a laser?
Weird.
met·a·phor
/ˈmedəˌfôr,ˈmedəˌfər/
noun
a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
I asked if your having trouble differentiating a fire vortex from a Space Laser.
It’s a yes or no question.
I dont understand the need for religious babble or dictionary citations.
~i like this.
We are caretakers of the land, before Me, Me, Me. Until we wrap our heads around that, it’s gonna remain all about the human $pecie$.
The Vid..Urll presented is super awsome.. and the Artwork in the Animation was killer! I seriously doubt it was a ‘recruitment’ Effort.. I thought the message was hopeful!
But, I also have an open mind. I feel like all to often “factuality” based thinking misses the bigger pictures of hope that is needed in a world gone mad.. There didn’t seem to be any indications twards ISIS in the Vid TRB.. so who is delusional and spreading misinformation now?
Did you think I meant its an ISIS video? No.
Its Graham Hancock. Its Sherri Tenpenny. Its laser Larry and Agenda Alex..
They need to recruit people with nice messages so you take the time to further listen to their false truths.
Do you know how many awesome messages come from people that dont write books that get proven to be bullshit filled tactics of deceit?
Graham inverted a star chart, without saying it, to “prove” his pyramid/star alignment. His books hint of Atlantis and a lost culture of great wisdom, but doesn’t mention why they couldnt develop any writing to tell their tale.
Why put up with liars in your life?
If you have ever listened to Graham Hancock you know he’s the first person to question his conclusions and concede that he may be wrong. What Hancock does offer is compelling evidence that the accepted “progress” of humanity from savages to our current technological “enlightened ” state is fraught with anomalies that academia ignores because the information doesn’t fit into the accepted paradigm.
For those interested here’s an extensive interview:
https://youtu.be/Rxmw9eizOAo
~added it to my ‘list’
Thanks, Ullr Rover.
Still thinks DEWs are in the video?
Simpsons are truth tellers?
Seth Rich and Agenda 21?
Wonderful job at normalizing insanity everyone.
Together, you’re as strong as your weakest link. So, I cant expect much out of the pack of you.
I mean what, 40 comments after Central being debunked for laser proof of agenda 21 fires, and no one has said shit.
You’re all just running into whatever corner you can like little mice when the light turns on.
Comforting each other in any way possible while not acknowledging any truth whatsoever.
Am I surprised, no.
Your so feeble. Really.
And Ullr, to jump in like you do to comfort them in their distorted realities is so whack.
Really. Just so whack.
“If you have ever listened to Graham Hancock you know he’s the first person to question his conclusions and concede that he may be wrong. What Hancock does offer is compelling evidence that the accepted “progress” of humanity from savages to our current technological “enlightened ” state is fraught with anomalies that academia ignores because the information doesn’t fit into the accepted paradigm.
For those interested here’s an extensive interview:”
https://youtu.be/Rxmw9eizOAo
After binge watching, I’m here to exclaim Thank You for posting that!
Not only were their reports fascinating, so was their debate with the ‘skeptics’ aka ‘character assassinators’. That made my day to watch the ‘debunking’ be debunked. High five to Russell and Graham!
But the most fascinating part was their work itself. Amazing stuff!
Ullr Rover, that video was beautiful. Thank you for posting it!
I’m one of the ones who believes in Good v Evil (love v hate, healing v destruction) , just like there are others who believe in Evil v Good (hating the restrictions put upon them by those who love good).
Yes!
Thank you for NOT confronting their lies – and comforting them simultaniously.
Coddling charlatans is a righteous endeavor of all good Trump voters.
Flat earth? Yup
Lasers? Yup
Seth Rich? Yup
Faked shootings? Yup
Crisis actors? Yup
Agenda 21? Yup
Muslim Obama? Yup
Born in Kenya? Yup
Atlantis? Yup
Reptile aliens? Yup
You’re MAGA and proud!
As long as you all feel safe in your delusions!
Just so you know.. I did refute the Lasers, but it wasn’t a post by Central, it was a post by JOJO.. ‘ Dr Evil.. “LASER BEAMS”..meme.. And I told JOJO then and there I thought the Laser beams starting the fire was a lame idea.. So why are you still on this topic?
But also, I did state, that actually in WW2 the Japanese had every intention on causing Fires in the Pacific Nortwest as an attack, so myself, I wondered if it was possible this could have happened. No evidence has been presented that it was an attack..
But hey Actually the Japanese did launch hot Airballoons as an attack, one made it to Hayfork, randomly enough and killed a family there.. Crazy, but absolutely true..
I still appreciate Ullr’s post, however, Me personally, I definitely have intrest in Ancient Cultures, and Extraterrestrial life forms, so.. How is that “dangerous”. I don’t beilive it is TRB.. I think it is more dangerous for someone to tell me that I can’t hold to my beliefs..
Or express them.. within reason..
Enjoy your beliefs.
Have them. Love them.
Were talking about lasers because Xentral cant let it go, and brought it here to Kym again on this thread as “proof”. “Proof comes from flat earthers for Central. So that also is being discussed.
Ya, jojo is a bit off the rocker too.
I have no problems with your beliefs.
I have a problem if you post repeatedly everyday that your beliefs are facts and link to a video that pirates the Simpsons and distorts real videos into propaganda .
That’s when I have to squash your little dreamy fake land of whatever.
Unless it has merit.
Most of Central
and Shaks claims have no merit. And I’m tired of reading them.
I have just as much right to shoot them down as they do to post them up.
Thank you, Brian, for saying what I had resigned myself to typing out. Now I don’t have to.
It’s hard to stay focused, rational or intelligent in these types of discussions.
But, I’m trying.
Your very much welcome
~perhaps an easier question than Do you know who you are?
1) U.S. Citizen -Federal
2) California state national
How do you distinguish theft from taxation?
On a side note, Brian, “How Flat Earthers Nearly Derailed a Space Photo Book” https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/science/nasa-flat-earth.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
~says NASA. Reported by the N.Y. Times. LAUGHING my ass off.
Operation Paper Clip come to mind?
How about the woo-woo moon landing?
You say you’re short on time, Kym, hard to believe that too.
The balloon bomb ‘attack’ in Hayfork didn’t injure anyone. It got hung up in a tree. The family you’re thinking of was in Oregon somewhere. I think there was one fatality in a family out on a picnic who found the balloon…. if I remember correctly.
http://www.militarymuseum.org/Hayfork.html
I remembered incorrectly on the Oregon fatalities(it was 6) and circumstances :
https://www.wired.com/2010/05/0505japanese-balloon-kills-oregon/
~very interesting.
TY for the info Ullr! I should have googled it. I was still under the impression that the Ballons were sent over with a specific intent to Ignight forest fires as an attack.. But for surely a very random unfortunate event for the family on a picnic that day! I remember reading the story some time ago, Thx for the clarification…
Dang, “just a reporter”—I feel the scorn.
Dear Brian-
Your demeanor is often so boorish it feels as if trying to have a reasonable discussion with you is pointless. You believe what you believe. Those you chastise on this site believe what they believe. To pretend you are going to change someone’s belief by being rude and cynical is foolish. So, if deep down you enjoy the verbal masturbation then, by all mean, you should indulge.
I’m the most rationale person I know. So rationale, in fact, that I understand that in an infinite universe there are limits to my rationale capacity. The hubris of humans is to assume we have a grasp on the “Truth”… when what we know equals a thimble of water from the ocean.
If someone wants to tell me about the great spaghetti monster in the sky I am happy to listen and it’s no skin off my back if that’s what they want to believe. If that person wants ME to believe there is a great spaghetti monster in the sky they better have some very compelling evidence.
With regards to so-called DEW’s, I have not seen any compelling evidence that they were used in any of the fires in California, ever. With a background in physics as well as seeing it up close, I understand that these dynamic energy systems (massive fires) can and do act in very strange ways. The ebb and flow in an energy system across a complex landscape will produce affects that seem incomprehensible. One of the more notable filmed events was a fire in Canada that pulled a few hundred feet of house lay into a vortice, lifting it into the air. https://youtu.be/nyaDhxxyUzY
I don’t think it is helpful to lump every bad thing that happens to humans as a controlled event. The fact t is, shit happens and Mother Nature can be a bitch. On the other hand humans have shown their capacity to be cruel, and coldly calculated in their efforts to carry out agendas you and I are not privy too.
I suggest that you occasionally give pause to your crusade, get off your high horse and breathe the air us plebs breathe.
Sincerely,
The anonymous poster known as
ULLR
Woah, my crusade?
Seems like you dont mind the propaganda crusade the fringe-right spews here everyday.
So you just dont want them to be corrected, or ever come correct. Got it.
I love how after 3 days of ignoring the fire vortex, and 2 years of ignoring DEW claims – I’m the problem on the high horse.
So funny.
Never mind. Facts are boring.
Let’s read the better pieces of David Dukes writings and sing hallelujah while spreading truth and love and lasers and reptiles.
Flat earth? Yup
Lasers? Yup
Seth Rich? Yup
Faked shootings? Yup
Crisis actors? Yup
Agenda 21? Yup
Muslim Obama? Yup
Born in Kenya? Yup
Atlantis? Yup
Reptile aliens? Yup
MAGA and proud!
By all means give out facts. It is what I do. But brow beating people to get them to believe what you believe doesn’t work. Present the facts and move on. Unless you’re a masochist and enjoy beating yourself against a brick wall.
I addressed the idea of DEW’s the first time I read it on this site with regards to the Carr or Camp fires and I said the same thing I say now: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I haven’t seen that.
But, I can’t prove it didn’t happen and neither can you.
The rest of your list doesn’t merit an effort to respond. It just doesn’t matter.
I absolutely can prove that theres no proof of DEWs.
And theres no need to do that.
The very fact that there are no facts to support DEWs is a good start.
The fact that “evidence” comes from an idiot flat earther is basically where it ends.
I presented Centrals best “evidence” and we all know what it is ( except for Shak and Sid and Central of course).
These lies and fear and propaganda on the daily need to go and get called out for what they are.
It’s easy to separate intelligent from smart.
Yes, I remember the 1 statement you made in response to me, not HumCo, regarding extraordinary evidence on DEWs.
Why is it the gang of liars is not getting called out by you for their constant efforts to form others beliefs, or for calling us slaves and serfs and peasants because we dont share their delusions?
Why is the guy with truth the only one being blamed for trying to form beliefs or convince others?
I’m fucking responding to 7 out 40 daily comments by Central brainwashing corp telling you what to think.
You brought yourself into this discussion. I did not bring you.
“I absolutely can prove that theres no proof of DEWs.” Have you presented this proof? Will you direct me to it so I can see for myself?
I recall my comment refuting DEW’s was to a poster posting as ‘Qanon.’ It’s the only time I’ve seen that handle on this site.
To call someone a liar means they have an intent to deceive. Is that what you believe? That Shak, Sid and CHC have a malicious intent to deceive the vast array of readers willing to wade through 500 some odd comments?
“I absolutely can prove that theres no proof of DEWs.”
First you have to have “proof” for me to show you it is wrong.
Where is it?
The fire vortex?
If you have no “proof” I wont waste my time doing anything, because theres nothing in front of me as evidence.
I showed you Centrals proof is false, so I’m 1 for 1.
Regarding liars. I wont doxx anyone, so I wont prove anything. My best working theory is that they are making money from their lies.
Consider this: Central has posted almost all of 74 episodes of flatearther DEWs proof videos.
The last one had 34 views when posted. When I went through it for evidence, it had 41. So it’s not many.
For Central to be so reluctant to reason or fact leaves me 2 options for a reality.
One working theory in print would break rule #1 and #2 of the Kymstitution.
But the other is this; Central is obviously within 30 views of the maker of the film. But, being how hard she promotes it, she’s likely closer than that.
Those videos are “made” in California. Home of tens of millions of people.
But 1 of 30 people who watched the last episode is promoting it HARD here.
I do consider the fact that Central does not have a job, and somehow supports herself.
Would she be such a hypocrite as to be taking State and Federal aide, sure, I absolutely think she would be that hypocritical.
Or, does she makes money from other means….like ad revenues or posting percentages.
So yes, theres reason to call them liars.
Beyond that, as a group they spread lies.
So…
That’s not proof. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. You said you can “…prove there is no proof.” You placed the onus on yourself to prove that statement.
I don’t read every comment so I don’t know CHC’s assertion about the “vortex”.
Nobody is making money with 30 views on the U Tube.
Absence of anything else for evidence of anything else means there is nothing else.
What happened:
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article230445554.
I don’t read every comment so I don’t know CHC’s assertion about the “vortex”.
Explained here:
https://kymkemp.com/2019/08/08/hispanic-drug-traffic-organization-grow-raided-k-9s-used-to-capture-suspects-says-trinity-county-sheriffs-office/#comment-849111
The picture of the vortex is Centrals claim of a laser beam, as she told Kym 6:57 in the video.
The vortex is obviously a vortex, theres video of it.
None the less, it arcs at the top as it’s going out. The heat is at the bottom. And why shoot lasers into pre-burned areas?
…and it’s a vortex.
Nobody is making money with 30 views on the U Tube.
Exactly. Hence a need to share it.
But it would be foolish to ascert my idea as reality, so I wont argue I’m right.
What I would say is that the view count is low for any number of these 3 reasons:
-It sucks
-We are almost as year after the Paradise fire
– The lack of catastrophic fires making nationwide news.
If you were to go and explore, you would find that early episodes and similar propaganda videos were spreading viraly as the fires were happening and shortly after.
Cashing in on catastrophe.
I’ve made a mention many times that this years lack of fires, must be making it really hard for fear-drivers on YouTube to make their money.
“Is agenda 21 on hold” I asked Shak at one point, regarding the lack of major fires.
He and Central had stated many times the fires were intentional to burn us out of rural living, and Agenda 21 wanted us to “evacuate on bicycles”.
Your Sac bee article is 404.
Yup, I see a vortex. The link I shared below with the fire hose shows one as well. It’s a short video.
One of the reasons I don’t address some of this stuff is I have no desire nor time to wade through videos that don’t interest me.
Assert away but don’t get pissed when you fail to change anyone’s mind.
Present facts that counter bad ideas and move on. I don’t think it matters one iota if someone believes something you vehemently disagree with. As Sid’s video on corruption so poignantly demonstrates: we don’t matter.
On the other side I’m sure the US military, Russia and China have worked at creating space based laser systems. I do not know where they are in development.
If it’s not in the recently released classifieds, it probably will be in the next. HRC, China…
“In a Time of Universal Deceit — Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act”
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/directed-energy/laser-weapon-systems.html
“Our beam control technology enables precision equivalent to shooting a beach ball off the top of the Empire State Building from the San Francisco Bay Bridge.”
Paul Shattuck, Director of Directed Energy systems
When these people discuss lasers in terms of KW on the low end, and Mega watt at the high end,
You can bet that knocking a beach ball off the empire state building from San Francisco, is just a teaser.
I’ve never confirmed nor denied that DEW were used to start fires.
Most likely they’ll be used to KILL /MAIM / and DESTROY.
Now which is the more palatable excuse?
Kym, I wish you all the luck with your goal of inoculation….
Just try to understand that there’s a possibility that we don’t get the facts until they’re scrubbed.
Like Brian did with most of his past on the Internet.
It works both ways.
Mr. Rover
“If we all took a minute each hour to notice what we’re thinking, what we’re doing and how we’re feeling [we would experience great growth].”
Stephen Levine.
Thanks Sid. I call it cultivating awareness.
Wow, that’s a great quote! Very profound. Thanks for posting it.
I’m with Brian to a certain extent. When a group of posters continuously put out wild and unproven theories and support them with statements made on YouTube by people who have multiple posts about wild and unproven subjects, do we just nod and pretend they are accurate?
Mostly, I try to ignore them, but the horror of watching my little site overrun by people who think it is okay to post that Michelle Obama is a man with “evidence” so ridiculous that my middle-school students could do better at sorting out reality, then I feel like I am creating a haven for viruses that infect others who have similar issues with sorting out reality.
At some point, I feel like I’m going to have to start to crack down. And then where will the crack down stop? Does it stop with things that ridiculous or will I start pushing back on people who disagree with me on whether Trump is a good president, on whether Climate Change is real, etc.
Exhausting the goodwill of this host, is not likely to lead to a great outcome for free speech but, I can only stand so much.
CH said that once. You’ve repeated it 100x’s. Which one is the rumor mongering conspiracy theorist, s/he who says something once, or s/he who says something repeatedly?
If CH doesn’t repudiate, then it still counts as something she believes. How about you? Is it something you believe?
https://kymkemp.com/2018/12/28/no-annual-womens-march-this-year-in-eureka/#comment-722567
Deflect much sis/Bro?
The Matrix program is crashing. It is. It’s outdated programming and the engineers of deceit can’t keep up.
The Decoded Matrix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTPjEjPvwE
~that was a flashback.
“I know you’re out there. I can feel you now. I know that you’re afraid. You’re afraid of us. You’re afraid of change. I don’t know the future. I didn’t come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it’s going to begin. I’m going to hang up this phone, and then I’m going to show the people what you don’t want them to see. I’m going to show them a world without you, a world without rules and controls, without boundaries. A world . . . where anything is possible. Where we go from there, is a choice we have to make.”
Licensing Costs Our Economy $180 Billion/Year, Here Are Ways to Avoid That — License to Work Ep3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ood2fcSD7wU 8 mins. August 17
~pee in a cup to get a license – how hilarious is that?
^^^ THIS ^^^ So much this! That was beyond stellar. Thanks for sharing that. I loved how it fits right in with the Matrix saying above. You’re rocking it CH, literally rocking it.
Thank you, shak.
~my pleasure.
Daylight is the best sanitizer for bad ideas.
Again, I think it’s a good thing to present facts when ideas are presented with misunderstanding or bad information. But to assume that you’re going to force someone to think differently because of that is a waste of time.
I really enjoy the mental sparring of a good argument and am more than willing to play the Devils advocate just to provoke one, but I don’t ever assume I can make someone believe in my beliefs.
Actually, I’ve pretty much given up on the trio but I hope to inoculate others.
That’s been my goal for a while.
I noticed long ago that the 3 have no rational thoughts.
You were right the other day about my comment.
I just want disclaimers around Central and Shaks postings:
Flat earthers, laser beamers, and faked shootings.
I will not allow that crap to become normalized discussion.
No one. I mean no one, commented or shunned Shak for posting a link to ” butt raping” rumors of the Columbine shooters by police.
It was so gross. Most of you are so accustomed to the insanity you dont bother to look or care anymore.
Not me.
I want every new reader to know the gang of liars and their lies.
I totally agree.
You do more for us than you’ll ever realize.
If you honestly think that people aren’t going to brand you as just as much a part of the problem, your head is truly a bit off.
As long as you and Kym enjoy your echo chamber, you might have a long way to go with your ambition.
You can’t help people who think they got the truth on their side.
My opinion is we are at the gates of 1933 Germany and we have a similar situation to who holds the truth.
~in an Organization the ones claiming the rights to govern the organization are
held accountable for each and everyone they govern. It is their responsibility to
ensure all they govern are properly educated to know their rights and
responsibilities for the parts they play in the organization. If those who rely on
the ones claiming the right to govern them, have not been properly taught,
then the actual responsibility falls upon the ones claiming the rights to govern.
Responsibility has always gone to the ones making the claim to govern as this
is the proper form of governing. They must be able to take responsibility for
the part they are playing in the organization. It is self evident that this
responsibility is nonexistent today. Many men and women have witnessed to these irresponsible events that are happening of a routine perpetual manner.
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He’ll be busy cleaning your “toilet” , so you don’t have to.
I don’t envy his job.
Daylight is the best sanitizer for bad ideas
Nope.
That’s not been my experience.
Everyone is telling Daylight to get off the high horse and shut up. Let people believe it’s dark all the time…
And I was polite over a year ago to them, so attitude is not the problem.
Facts are the problem.
Ignoring liars is a problem.
You are Representative Of A systeM That Seeks To Limit The scope of People who don’t find comfort in the scrubbed narrative.
Just like you scrubbed your past so can’t be judged for it.
If someone you knew, had knowledge of something you did, but couldn’t provide an example because the source had been scrubbed, then we enter into that difficult area.
Thank God for Project Veritas.
There’s someone actually making a difference in the world.
You should see if he’s hiring.
Who. exactly, are the “liars”..?
Who, exactly, are the journalists?
What do you call Brian?
Is it any wonder why people are so suspect of people who claim to have the facts, when all they have is a controlled version of events?
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/08/14/google-machine-learning-fairness-whistleblower-goes-public-says-burden-lifted-off-of-my-soul/
When our ability to “search” independently of controlled by algorithms, and we are finally shown a glimpse behind the curtain, it should give you pause.
BTW.
Climate Changes, I’m hoping your perspective does as well.
https://www.projectveritas.com/google-document-dump/
Maybe it would be good for Brian to face these “liars”, it seems there’s more to lose with “The Big Lie”
In a recent interview, Zack mentioned that there is ‘hope for our future’ buried in one of his documents. Something about free energy being hidden behind the algorithms. The sleuths jumped on that right away and … yep.
//”do we just nod and pretend they are accurate?”//
How much nodding and pretending have you unknowingly participated in?
This is exactly why I focus on JFK, RFK, & MLK.
Can you honestly say that you nod and believe the official narrative?
I’m definitely trying to make my.point here with respect to your desire call me a conspiracy theorist, and I have a feeling that you don’t have the time, and you start to echo with nodding and pretending that THE BIG LIES don’t apply to your process of determining what’s relevant to the discussion.
I brought up Michael Shaw, in response to the push back on Agenda 21.
“Farming In Fear:”
“Martha Boneta” and her 7 year battle with county code enforcement to sell what she produces on her own farm.
CoDE enforcement requiring her to apply for a permit for a birthday party on her farm.
https://youtu.be/v6lo64dbfWI
John Duarte battling DOJ over fines and penalties in the millions just to farm his land exactly how it’s been farmed for generations.
https://youtu.be/yIGdVSjlt5I
You want real tRuth?
Do you want the truth?
This all plays into the divide and conquer and financial terrorism levied on our people by our government.
You really think I care about conspiracy theories?
I’ve been pointing out real issues and you still fall back to the conspiracy theory space.
Yeah, I’m upset too. People who have eyes but can’t see. Be careful of following Brian too closely into that world.
Snowflake doesn’t have to be a negative term, just be careful of trusting otherpeople’s knowledge over what is happening in front of our very noses.
I’ve asked you to help me understand where my LIES are.
If you can’t point out a lie, then you should at least keep your bias in check long enough to think about the possibility that these things above are a dangerous precedent, and they will continue if good people stand by and say nothing.
That is very messed up. SID Honestly, I can’t stand Pruitt.. However, the farmers getting fined for erroneous regulations like that Is absolutely poposturous! These are the issues many mainstream media outlets tend to not cover enough.
Very well stated Ullr! THX.
That right there just made the best post of the year award. Thank you U.R.
I was busy reading the newly unclassified release from Grassley’s desk to ours concerning the HRC emails and China and other gruesome stuff and needed a break and came here. I’m so glad I did! Best break ever.
Here’s the report for those interested. https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2019-08-14%20Staff%20memo%20to%20CEG%20RHJ%20-%20ICIG%20Interview%20Summary%20RE%20Clinton%20Server.pdf
Researchers and analyzers are tearing into it like crazy hungry hippo’s, and already many highlights are being released by them. My favorite analyzers are like you, U.R., they remind us of relevant dates, names, cases… but without any ‘narrative’. They allow us all to conclude on our own. Maybe next week I’ll post one, after everyone’s had time to save them offline.
“Much thought has at its root a dissatisfaction with what is. Wanting is the urge for the next moment to contain what this moment does not. When there is wanting in the mind, that moment feels incomplete. Wanting is seeing elsewhere. Completeness is being right here.”
Stephen Levine