CLMP Meeting Packed with People and Information

The Garberville Vet’s Hall opened its doors much like a overstuffed guest might loosen the waistband of her pants after a particularly wonderful feast. The standing-room-only crowd pushed against the walls as the abundant banquet of information was set before them.

CLMP (Civil Liberties Monitoring Project) offered its annual forum last night, Saturday, June 19th entitled Cannabis Health & Safety.  Several local speakers gave quick synopsis’ on a variety of new start ups that have sprung up in response to the changing marijuana climate and others spoke about local issues.

  • Cannabis College- 707 Cannabis College which will begin classes on sustainable gardening, legal issues etc. soon.
  • HuMMAP (Humboldt Medical Marijuana Advisory Panel) a new umbrella organization which gathers information from those in the marijuana business (whether directly or indirectly)  of this county, magnifies their voice, and represents their viewpoint to government and beyond had its chairperson, Syreeta Lux, and secretary,  Charlie Custer, there. They spoke about their fledgling organization and a meeting being held the 28th of this month.
  • Tea House Collective (THC)-A California Mutual Benefit Corporation which seeks to distribute premium medical cannabis to patients while promoting Humboldt, organic, sustainable marijuana offered a short synopsis by one of its directors, Liz Davidson.  She said, “Our values are our brand as much as good cannabis is. ”  She invites all outdoor cannabis growers to come to a meeting Thursday, July 1 at 5 PM at the Beginnings Octagon to become members in “the Bay Area’s Newest MMJ collective.
  • Hospital/Dispensary-Darryl Cherney spoke about the ongoing work to make the local hospital a marijuana dispensary. This would make Southern Humboldt the first in the nation. According to him, “This is a cannabis production center of the world. It seems foolish for our health care district to ignore this.” He also pointed out how difficult it was for patients to purchase their medicine here. “This,” he said, “is a wholesale area not a retail one” and we need to remedy that lack of access.
  • NORML- Ellen Komp, California NORML’s  Deputy Director , offered a view of what is happening in her organization and voiced concerns about taxing medical marijuana– worrying that Californians are “buying our way to freedom by putting a sin tax on a sacrament.”
  • Legal information-Local attorney, Ed Denson, who specializes in marijuana defense spoke on the law offering several salient points and practical advice to minimize chances of prosecution.
  1. California recognizes medical recommendations from physicians no matter where they are located. This means that recommends from other states (and even countries) are accepted here. Cannabis tourism, anybody?
  2. Humboldt County growing limits are 100 square foot garden and 3 pounds. Of course, Kelly decision ensures that a patient can have as much as they need but staying under the limit decreases the growers’ chance of having to face charges.
  3. Get a medical recommendation
  4. Carry a copy with you when transporting
  5. post a copy where growing
  6. keep less marijuana than allowed
  7. do not keep firearms anywhere near marijuana (he recommended a gun safe.)
  8. Keep no more than $1000 cash
  9. Pay taxes
  10. Create a defense fund
  11. If arrested, don’t talk! Not even about sport’s teams.
  • Union Local 13- Don’t Leaf us out. A representative of a Cannabis workers union spoke and urged people to check out his site (He had a great t-shirt ;>)
  • DVD’s Tom Grover (our local science guy) has been filming local meetings like this CLMP meeting (also Dr. Ann Lindsey, the Planning Commission, Guns for code enforcement, Richardsons Grove, etc.) you can get a copy by calling 707 923 3502).  He discussed the issues of sustainable growing pointing out, “ As a science teacher, I ran out some numbers and if you are growing 1 joint on your lights, you are using about 15 pounds of coal which is coming straight from some mountain in Tennessee or that leads to about 1 1/2 gallons that is coming from the Gulf. One joint is that kind of impact.  So grow it in the sun!”

Also there were three vibrant speakers, including Sierra Knoll from the Medical Cannabis Safety Council, Kate Cholewa who is currently lobbying for marijuana issues in Montana, and Dr. Geci founder of Montana Botanical Analysis. Each offered unique perspectives on the changing issues confronting the Cannabis business person and were fountains of information.  You can hear the whole thing on KMUD. Cholewa spoke about the need for people in the industry to “ride the wave” and “remember instability is our friend.”  She urged agreeing on values and then working to make them happen. “Your values can become National policy. Your values can become your brand.”

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Dave
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13 years ago

Thanks for the great coverage Kym.

The T-S story on the subject today pales in comparision to your informative piece.

They need to start a Pot Blog and have you as a columnist.

Staff
Member
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave

I like that idea!

Staff
Member
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave

I like that idea. But I haven’t read the TS’s coverage this time so I can’t speak to that. Donna Tam has done some nice articles in the past that I liked.

t
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t
13 years ago

wati wait wait

california accepts MMJ recs from any doctor? located anywhere?

since when?

i though RI and MT were the only states who accepted out of state reccomendations…

this is awesome if i am wrong.

Staff
Member
13 years ago
Reply to  t

I thought the same but Ed Denson even told a story about California accepting an oral recommendation from a doctor in Texas who had since died!

Ekovox
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Ekovox
13 years ago

I was really pleased to hear Dr. Geci ‘s comments. His look into the medicine purpose of medical marijuana discounted the higher THC strains for the more useful cannabinoid elements in medical treatments. His comments on growers impressing themselves with higher content THC strains that seemingly defeat the purpose of good medicine through cannibis. And the fact that he called out High Times and others who rate medical marijuana through tasters and competitons as mockery. When growing medical marijuana is about actual medicine rather than for recreational use through fake recommendations I believe more people from the mainstream will be more accepting. And What I got out of listening to Dr. Geci on KMUD was he felt the same way. I’m hoping there comes a day when marijuana becomes so mainstream that we’ll be able to purchase it at the corner market or farmer’s market or pharmacy or whatever sector it will reside in. Maybe pot will become available like Johnny Walker Red or Prilosec. Let’s get it out into the open and leave the boogey man element out of it.

By the way, I never thought I would admit it, by my ladyfriend is using tincture acquired from a friend of a friend to help her with her chemotherapy side effects. Yes, marijuana does have it’s medical purpose. But, please, let’s be honest here. Remember, alcohol used to be for for medical purposes, too. Now, we know better.

Staff
Member
13 years ago
Reply to  Ekovox

Ekovox, I have mixed feelings about what Dr. Geci said. Part of me agrees that marijuana won’t be accepted for a medicine when cannabis cups use medicine in their title but judge by taste and stoniness. But the other part of me feels strongly that marijuana activists put everything they had into getting cannabis legalized for medical use and now patients should be helping recreational users get access also. One of the ways to do that is to make recreational use seem no big deal and Cannabis cups do that.

Please tell your lady friend that I hope she does well with the tincture. Remember what Geci said about some tinctures having almost no medicinal qualities though others are good. Maybe she could get it tested? Though as of yet there aren’t any testing companies here in the Emerald T. that I know of.

Here is what the National Cancer Institute cautiously says about cannabis consumption,

“Marijuana cigarettes have been used to treat chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting, and research has shown that THC is more quickly absorbed from marijuana smoke than from an oral preparation. However, any antiemetic effects of smoking marijuana may not be consistent because of varying potency, depending on the source of the marijuana contained in the cigarette.

To address issues surrounding the medical uses of marijuana, the National Institutes of Health convened a meeting in February 1997 to review the scientific data concerning its potential therapeutic uses and explore the need for additional research. The group of experts concluded that more and better studies are needed to fully evaluate the potential use of marijuana as supportive care for cancer patients.”

Ernie's Place
Guest
13 years ago

“Remember, alcohol used to be for for medical purposes, too. Now, we know better.”

Kym
Why is it that people are so quick to trill the praises of the weed, and so adamant about making sure that they also add a little rap-down of alcohol. Alcohol is more important to medicine, in general, than marijuana will ever be. Alcohol is used extensively in processing drugs, tincturing pharmaceuticals, sterilizing, and is used as a preservative. When you get an injection, alcohol is what the injection site is cleaned and sterilized with.

One of the more important uses of alcohol is it is a “social lubricant”. One ounce of alcohol allows otherwise painfully shy people to converse on a normal level with their peers. It is a great way to relax and change gears after a hard day at work. It is fast in finding it’s way into your bloodstream, and can give a very good feeling of wellbeing. It is almost completely metabolized out of your system within twelve hours.

Alcohol is a natural part of all fruits, and there is no possible way to completely eliminate it from your diet. No matter how “pure” a person is, they use alcohol.

Marijuana is cumulative and can be found in the blood for weeks. They say that you can’t “overdose” on marijuana, but just like drunks can overdose on alcohol, people can, and quite often do, overdose on marijuana, and it seems to stay with them for quite sometime.

I have no problem with people using any medicine that the doctor recommends. But, let’s be honest, some people are better off without alcohol, and some people would be better of without marijuana. It is not a panacea.

Ekovox
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Ekovox
13 years ago
Reply to  Ernie's Place

Ernie, I tried to get Ladyfriend to chug a bottle of Black Velvet to help with her symptoms of nausea, but she wasn’t going for it. Both of us are not marijuana users, but the Emend medication wasn’t working as well as it could. With advice from a non-physician friend, she tried the tincture and yes, Kym, we aren’t sure if it is really working as a valid nausea inhibitor, but the awful nausea is not nearly as present as before. And she isn’t experiencing hallucinogenic effects, either. Perhaps, it’s just a placebo. And, Ernie….it’s made with Everclear! But, I must tell you, she is very aware of the stigma of using it and would hate it if I were telling anyone of her usage. Yes, her doctor knows she is using it but doesn’t validate it or contradict it in any way.

Ernie's Place
Guest
13 years ago
Reply to  Ekovox

Ekovox
There is no stigma to using much needed medicine. My heart goes out to you and Ladyfriend if she is sick. Actually, I have no problem with anything that can make a person better, or feel better, with or with out a doctors approval. Whatever works is okay, I hope Ladyfriend knows that.

Mr. Nice
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Mr. Nice
13 years ago

Flashy-finishing sativa-leaning hybrids tend to have the strongest antiemetic effect. Super Silver Haze, Trainwreck, AK-47, etc.

Mr. Nice
Guest
Mr. Nice
13 years ago

Flashy-finishing sativa-leaning hybrids tend to have the strongest antiemetic effect. Super Silver Haze, Trainwreck, AK-47, etc.

Liz
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Liz
13 years ago

“When you get an injection, alcohol is what the injection site is cleaned and sterilized with. “

Liz
Guest
Liz
13 years ago

“When you get an injection, alcohol is what the injection site is cleaned and sterilized with. “

Liz
Guest
Liz
13 years ago

“When you get an injection, alcohol is what the injection site is cleaned and sterilized with.”

Not the same thing. That is isopropyl alcohol, which is poisonous to ingest.

Liz
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Liz
13 years ago

“When you get an injection, alcohol is what the injection site is cleaned and sterilized with.”

Not the same thing. That is isopropyl alcohol, which is poisonous to ingest.

Mr. Nice
Guest
Mr. Nice
13 years ago

“When you get an injection, alcohol is what the injection site is cleaned and sterilized with.”

Not the same thing. That is isopropyl alcohol, which is poisonous to ingest.

Sterilizing injections is a highly controversial issue, here are the highlights:

Acupuncture has been going down for centuries without people’s own skin somehow rubbing some shit on the needles and infecting them.

70% isopropyl alcohol or 70% ethanol (the other most common cleaning agent contrary to what you’re saying) does not actually fully disinfect skin so if there were random bacteria that hitched a ride off some skin in that split second during injection, alcohol swabbing wouldn’t fix that.

Most all infections come from dirty ass needles so prepping an injection site in a sterile hospital room is kinna silly, but is protocol. The reason heroin addicts get infections is generally not because they don’t sterilize with alcohol (they do), but because often they don’t use sterile needles.

It is debatable, hence the controversy.

Mr. Nice
Guest
Mr. Nice
13 years ago

“When you get an injection, alcohol is what the injection site is cleaned and sterilized with.”

Not the same thing. That is isopropyl alcohol, which is poisonous to ingest.

Sterilizing injections is a highly controversial issue, here are the highlights:

Acupuncture has been going down for centuries without people’s own skin somehow rubbing some shit on the needles and infecting them.

70% isopropyl alcohol or 70% ethanol (the other most common cleaning agent contrary to what you’re saying) does not actually fully disinfect skin so if there were random bacteria that hitched a ride off some skin in that split second during injection, alcohol swabbing wouldn’t fix that.

Most all infections come from dirty ass needles so prepping an injection site in a sterile hospital room is kinna silly, but is protocol. The reason heroin addicts get infections is generally not because they don’t sterilize with alcohol (they do), but because often they don’t use sterile needles.

It is debatable, hence the controversy.

Toni
Guest
13 years ago

Great photo, Kym!! 🙂

Toni
Guest
13 years ago

Great photo, Kym!! 🙂

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