Letter Writer Concerned That Garberville GSD Is Not Operating Properly

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Dear GSD Board and Staff,

During the June 27, 2023 GSD Board meeting, Laura Cochrane, Executive Director of the Southern Humboldt Community Park, made public comments during agenda item B.1 of this meeting, in part she states:

 

“We were also operating under the assumption that we would be reconnected at the old connection point, right, so, even if there was a cost associated with it, it would have been minimal and not at all as significant as the new meter installation which was put in on the Kimtu line, which also was GSD’s decision to do that for what ever reason, for structure, I’m not exactly sure why that change was made, but I’m, you know, weren’t expecting that expense at all… it caught us off guard”
 

 

And even GSD Board Chair Doug Bryan stated, after Cochrane’s public comment: “I will say, it caught me off guard too”.

 

So what exactly is going on at GSD? Why isn’t everyone on the same page, from the GSD Board, to the GSD General Manager, Staff, GSD Consultant and water service applicant (SHCP).

 

On September 6, 2022, Jennie Short, as an independent consultant representing the GSD Board, has stated, in an email to Humboldt LAFCo, outside of a public meeting (see link):

 

“Over the past few weeks, the Park has decided that they will be constructing new waterlines for the potable water service to make sure that there is no possibility for cross contamination between the new potable water and the existing irrigation water they utilize on the property for agricultural products. GSD supports this decision and has selected a location just east of the Park’s driveway immediately adjacent to Sprowel Creek Road [aka Kimtu Waterline] as the best place for setting the Park’s water meter for these new waterlines”
That statement by Jennie Short, would make one believe the Park knew they are being connected to the Kimtu Waterline and everyone was on the same page. However, after hearing what was stated at the June 27, 2023 GSD Board meeting, agenda item B.1 by Laura Cochrane, its the complete opposite. Cochrane is stating they knew nothing about it. The cohesion between GSD and the Park Board is far and few between, not something I would call a well oiled machine. And why is that? IMHO, its because none of this information or changes in the project was discussed between all parties involved and was never disclosed in public at a GSD Board meeting, from September 6, 2022 until May 23, 2023 and had to be addressed again during the June 27, 2023 GSD Board meeting. Everything between those dates was negotiated in private, outside of the Brown Act and public meetings.
I thought GSD had learned its lesson from past mistakes and missteps with the Park Board from 2009 thru 2014, had learned to document everything, in public and stop having or making backroom deals outside of a public meetings with the Park Board. Which lead GSD to lose approx. $40,000 of GSD ratepayer fees and funding to include the Park into GSD’s 2013 annexation process, to no avail, what a waste. Now, GSD has once again given or paid out $18,900 in GSD Ratepayer fees and funding to provide a single water connection to the Park, because nothing was discussed and documented in a public meeting.
The GSD Board should have the Humboldt County Grand Jury investigate this Waste, Fraud and Abuse of GSD ratepayer fees and find who at GSD is responsible and make them accountable for their actions! If GSD had just stuck with what was proposed and already approved, instead of changing major components of this project in private, none of this would be an issue, that only benefited the Park, not GSD ratepayers.
Ed Voice
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Permanently on Monitoring
11 months ago

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Ed.

It should be obvious the Garberville Locals make pretty poor stewards of the public, the public’s funds, and with the general administration of the “districts” or public facilities they are somehow placed in charge of.

The same exact effect is seen at the Jerold Phelps Hospital, and Redway Service District.

Incompetent and ineffective individuals occupy offices everywhere, especially in government and in public agencies.

Some people can’t handle an actual job, so they instead get paid to lie about everything in lovely language, and even the consultants they retain mostly just talk.

Garberville has no perceptible government, and, it has a dearth of competent leaders.

Good luck on your quest, Ed.

Curiouser
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Curiouser
11 months ago

Ralph Emerson and Jennie Short, two people that don’t live in So. Hum, running roughshod on the Garberville ratepayers … and the So. Hum community at large.

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Permanently on Monitoring
11 months ago
Reply to  Curiouser

And then there’s Matt Rees and his daughter Kristen, running the SoHum Hospital-like disorganization…

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
11 months ago

Surely, however and whenever “SoHum Hospital” wronged you, it had to have happened well before Matt Rees and his Daughter Kristen’s employment or leadership there…

Therefore…

It seems like one might ask oneself…

What might be the real underlying lingering issue that is at play?

What really went wrong?

Surely, you’re true original beef with SoHum Hospital couldn’t even
possibly be attributed to them, could it…???

So why even mention them?

Did they wrong you in a previous life?

spamned
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spamned
10 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

You’re a real apologist, aren’t you.

One of the high holy, no doubt.

The river cannot withstand more ‘development’…’the hospital’ is a reflection of the palsy-walsy shit that goes on in Gar(won’t do it Kym)berville.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  spamned

🤔🧐,

“A real apologist”…???

“One of the High Holy”…???

I’m not sure what you mean.

Could you be a little more specific…???

POM doesn’t give two shits about the South Fork Eel River…

And I’m not convinced that is Ed Voice’s real issue, either.

I’m sure that the GSD is drawing a lot less water out of the river lately than they have in years past, due to many failed business ventures, etc, so that would accommodate for any additional “development”, up to what was previously allocated.

As far as the, “You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours, let’s butter each other’s bread on both sides”, type of shenanigans that go on in So. Hum. and the rest of Humboldt County, among others, I find it totally repugnant.

My point is that whatever is motivating some commenters and Letter to the Editor types to consistently and invariably criticize certain aspects of our “civilization”, might very well have something unassociated eating at them masked beneath the surface, that is unfortunately going unaddressed and unattended to.

(I’m also pretty sure that just may apply to myself from time to time, as well, to be fair.)

I’m also a firm believer that withholding water, or advocating it, is not a very admirable trait.

Properly done, additional GSD service area development is doable without adding additional undue strain on the South Fork Eel River.

It will just take the proper infrastructure, and proper maintenance.

A good start would be fixing the leaks.

DHW
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DHW
10 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

The Teal Guest – do you realize the Eel River and the South Fork Eel have nee designated as anOver Allocated tiver since 1998 by the satte of Califronia?
So there is strain on the Eel River water system for many years already.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  DHW

It wouldn’t surprise me.

Link please.

I am well aquatinted, (I think I will leave that typo, it seems fitting),with the South Fork Eel River locally, for nearly 50 years.

And yes, it suffers at times.

Hopefully you realize that the water “drain” on the South Fork Eel River, (the stretch of the Eel River in question), at least, has a much reduced recent demand due to much reduced cannabis cultivation, and as far as GSD draw, it must be significantly less than in the roaring 90’s, considering the number of businesses in Garberville, especially so many restaurants, that have folded since then.

And as I have already said, I would like to see more storage infrastructure with early season draws, and leak repairs, on the GSD system.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
11 months ago

POM, You apparently have absolutely no idea how phenomenally the hospital in Garberville has improved. I would list the ways, but it wouldn’t change you mind anyway.
You do no service in condemning the local medical facility. If you are in SoHum, and If you have a medical emergency, your best chance of survival is to get yourself to the emergency room. If you need more help than can be provided they can get you to specialized service faster than you can.
While at one time I would have wholeheartedly agreed with POM. Times have changed. So, PLEASE, Please disregard anything POM says about SoHum healthcare.

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Permanently on Monitoring
10 months ago

Mr Branscomb:

It must indeed be a great comfort to you, to have a sort of Medical Facility steps away… This is a dying luxury only available in SHCHD quantities in places like Cedarville, Avalon, Portola and Garberville…

“Hospital” is a misnomer, I call it an “Urgent Care” and “Transfer Station” but it’s like that in Chester, Willits, and Quincy as well…

I actually donated to the $5 million fundraiser, since I want to see if it’s even possible for an organization this bent to build anything at all, and they never would have gotten this far without the $2.8 Million they received in CARES Act funds…

I don’t see Mr Rees as a leader, since the first thing he ever said to me was a lie, and nepotism in District Hospitals isn’t particularly uncommon either…

In fact, I regard nepotism as the most commonly encountered form of corruption, but in Humboldt, the holy trinity is Corruption, Incompetence and Nepotism…

I’m glad you think it’s better, but few of these places are fit to work within, and the best Medical Facility in Humboldt, is Kimaw Medical Center…

I’m lacking the energy to visit Garberville, but I did live there for 5 years, and I was a patient as recently as 2016.

I learned plenty at SHCHD, and I believe I know a thing or two about District Hospitals, mainly that I wouldn’t want to work in another remote, broke and poorly managed facility again and that if you work at SoHum Health, your job is temporary.

Enjoy and if you need to talk about this to someone, you can find tele-therapists quite easily…

Rees, Scown and Newdow: It’s Their Hospital, not yours, and District Hospitals are not supposed to be toys for crooked people to play with…

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
11 months ago
Reply to  Curiouser

“Ralph Emerson and Jennie Short, … don’t live in So. Hum”. So why can’t we manage ourselves? With due respect to Ed, he doesn’t live in SoHum either.

Matt Reese and Kristen do live in the SoHum 2nd district.

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
10 months ago

Here[s the problem Ernie and with all due respect; Since GSD purchased the Garberville Water Company in 2006 from the Hurlbutt Family, there has been one scheme after another to only work with developers outside public meeting and in backroom deals to keep any or all plans outside of the sight of the public.

https://docs.cpuc.ca.gov/published/Final_decision/62421-01.htm

Now, lets look at some examples of Waste, Fraud and Abuse by the GSD Board and Staff just since 2012:

In 2012, GSD paid its Engineering Consultant SHN approx. $30,000 to include the 400 acres of the Southern Humboldt Community Park into their Annexation process for water service.

In 2012, the Community Park Board does not want to pay GSD to include the Park into their annexation process for water use.

In 2013, GSD paid $10,000 to a law firm in Sacramento to render a legal opinion, if the GSD approves the Community Park to be included in their annexation process without becoming an EIR or law suit, and the opinion was not to include the Park.

In 2013, the GSD Board votes to take the Park property out of the annexation process.

In 2014, GSD reimburses the Community Park $2,203 in past connection fees.

In 2019, GSD credits the Community Park $5,000 for work done by Jennie Short for the Community Park to get one water service connection.

In 2019, GSD waives the $8,000 connection fee for a new single water connection for the Community Park.

In 2020, GSD is fined $40,000 + GSD Consultant & Attorney Fees in violation of a State Waterboard Cease & Desist Order.

In 2021, at a GSD Board meeting, the Garberville Redway Public Restroom Working Group asked GSD if they could take over the operation of the Public Restroom they had installed at the Town Square in Garberville. GSD GM Emerson told the GSD Board he got a legal opinion from GSD’s Legal Counsel, in regards to the Town Toilet, Emerson stated, GSD was not allowed to use GSD Ratepayer funding or fees for private projects on private property.

In 2023, GSD will pay $5,900 to Van Meter Construction for the water connection made to the Park from the Kimtu Waterline.

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The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

“Since GSD purchased the Garberville Water Company in 2006 from the Hurlbutt Family”…

-Ed Voice-

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The annexation project pdf states that, quote…

“• Garberville Water Company supplied water to
town of Garberville for many decades
• GWC was privately owned by Hurlbutt family
and regulated by PUC
• Fred Hurlbutt was chief operator until died in
1999
• GWC assets purchased by GSD in Nov. 2004”

_____________________________________

What happened between 2004 and 2006?

Is there a discrepancy?

Were there separate purchases of the assets and the business itself?

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
10 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Good question, glad you are paying attention. I have sent this copy of sale between GSD and GWC from the PUC to GSD back in 2009 and they seem to not care about dates, it does not fit their narrative. They might have given Pat Hurlbutt a deposit in 2004, but the sale was not approved until 2006. Sorry, don’t know what to tell you.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RoPuiYrUCiTZY1MJAr_8z-NfA2wKWAse/view?usp=sharing

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

Thank you, Ed, for the reply.

I wasn’t questioning your accuracy, I just noticed the difference in dates.

Maybe it was a long escrow…???

Maybe some encumbrances needed time to resolve.

It happens.

Sale initiated vs sale finalized and title transferred.

That would make sense.

Take care, Ed.

“AKA Ed”🙂

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Permanently on Monitoring
10 months ago

But not in the Southern Humboldt Healthcare District, and not Dr Newdow either…

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
11 months ago

How many other people knew who the author was as soon as they saw the topic of the letter?

Given Ed’s peculiar obsession with SoHum governance maybe he should run for the GSD board of directors? Except he doesn’t live anywhere near SoHum.

It’s obvious Ed has some long standing grievances but I wouldn’t put too much stock in his one-sided screeds. He raises issues from 2013 as if they were committed by todays GSD. And fails to provide evidence to back up his claim that rhe GSD is making decisions behind closed doors. Whether or not you agree with GSD paying for the water connection, that decision was made in open session.

Ok, Ed, back to you for your endless pedantic justifications of your position.

But please tell us the real reason behind your obsessive attention to the GSD and other local entities.

Do you pay this much attention (or any?) to the workings of local government where you live?

Mr. BearD
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Mr. Bear
11 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

“LETTER WRITER CONCERNED THAT GARBERVILLE GSD IS NOT OPERATING PROPERLY”
I immediately thought, that must be Ed

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Permanently on Monitoring
11 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

The mess in Lake County is incalculable, and trying to fix it would drive anyone to crack up… It cracks me up every day…

I’m waiting for Ed to shift his focus to Lake County, but he and I may not live that long…

I still have a home in Sutter County, and threaten to move back there daily, but it’s pretty quiet here…

Redwood Dan
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Redwood Dan
11 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

Yup, knew right away. I’ve tried to pin him down on what his actual bone to pick with them is, but he just rambles on about obscure details of the broad picture.
Ed, what did they do to you? What watershed do you live in now, and do you advocate for it in the same way as you do for the Eel?
P.S. Ed
Unfortunately I was out of town this past weekend and wasn’t able to personally dive in the river and clean up the trash from Northern Nights. But I know there was a scuba certified marine biologist who did, in addition to taking water samples each day of the event. Contrary to your belief, those guys care about the river too.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
11 months ago
The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
11 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/health/force-for-change-grief-coping/index.html

CNN

“Every tragedy, big or small, leaves behind victims and loved ones whose lives are inalterably changed. In some cases, survivors find themselves driven to become activists or advocates, finding meaning in the tragedy by fighting [, in some cases but not all,] whatever caused it.”
_________________________

(Text included in brackets mine, as I believe the activism can be towards a cause unrelated to the cause of the related traumatic loss. For example, a person leaning into environmental activism, to help them through their grief, even though the traumatic loss could have been actually caused by a drunk driver, let’s say.)

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The Unreal Real
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The Unreal Real
11 months ago

I understood that the conditions of the grant funding that enabled the Kimtu waterline to be installed in the first place was that it would never serve more that the Kimtu subdivision for which it was funded. I guess Jennie found a loophole. Now that the “Park” has a water connection, next will be an application to subdivide. I bet the Garberville rate payers will “get to” help pay for that too. Certainly the Eel River will. Follow the money.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
11 months ago

My understanding or recollection is that it was to be exclusive for a period of time and/or a set of predetermined conditions.

It was my feeling that GSD should have laid an additional pipe at the same time to serve other customers such as the community park, in order to allow the Kimtu line to remain exclusive or “tight”.

Maybe GSD figured it would be a lot less expensive for them to add a branch connection to the Kimtu line, than it would have been to run another line all the way from town.

I’m sure that would have cost the ratepayers a whole heck of a lot more than $18,900, that’s for sure.

I figure, GSD’s legal counsel, not to mention their financial officer, must have let them know that would be their prudent course of action, considering it was for a replacement service, for a service that had been discontinued, and not for a new service, which the customer, if new, would have had to pay a connection fee for.

The Tooby Ranch was definitely Grandfathered in.

GSD must have finally figured that out.

Even though this water service issue has now been fully resolved, as it should have been all along, I’m afraid that Ed, unfortunately, still won’t find closure, because I think it’s really a completely unrelated issue that is truly what is eating at him.

I just truly hope that he finds closure, and the peace that comes with it, for what really must be bothering him, (understandably), sooner, rather than later.

I say that non-adversarially.

He was previously a community member, descended from other community members.

For that he should at least be entitled to some understanding.

We don’t have to agree on everything, but it’s the understanding that is truly of importance.

It explains everything.

(P.S. Peace, Ed.)

The Unreal Real
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The Unreal Real
11 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

One has to wonder why “The Real Guest” defends GSD, their board and management, so vigorously and why “The Real Guest” is so strongly opposed to Ed Voice’s “activism.”

Could it be that “The Real Guest” is on the GSD payroll? Maybe “The Real Guest” is GSD management.

“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
~ Queen Gertrude in Hamlet by Wm. Shakespeare

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago

I’m not “defending” GSD, their Board, or their management, to be sure…

They should never have withheld service, or held out for a new service hookup fee, in order to serve the community park.

How is that “defending” GSD?

(It’s not.)

And I don’t have any reason to oppose them, either.

Nor am I GSD management, nor am I …”on the GSD payroll”…

I am also not in their service area.

I am also not against Ed Voices activism, he has every right to do as he pleases, but I do disagree with his perceived objectives.

They are not constructive, IMO.

They are obstructionist, IMO.

The more I read his comments and letters, the more I understand that which motivates him might not be as much about environmentalism, as it might just possibly be about something entirely different.

Sad, but true.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago

Annexation Project – Garberville Sanitary District https://www.garbervillesd.org/files/e8193e9f3/0+-+Slides+of+Presentation+to+LAFCo+May+2014_.pdf

History of Water System

• Garberville Water Company supplied water to
town of Garberville for many decades
• GWC was privately owned by Hurlbutt family
and regulated by PUC
• Fred Hurlbutt was chief operator until died in
1999
• GWC assets purchased by GSD in Nov. 2004

Tooby Flat Area

• The GWC set a meter on the east side of Hwy
101 and allowed what was APN 222-091-001
to run a private waterline to their property
• There were various LLAs and changes in
property ownership
• Resulted in single meter serving two
properties: APNs 222-091-011 and 014
(“Yellow House” and SHCP)

APNs 222-091-011 and 014
“Yellow House” and SHCP

Only APN 222-091-011 is included in this
application
• SHCP will likely petition for annexation as part
of their various development permits
currently underway with Humboldt County
Planning Dept.

The Kimtu Waterline

• LAFCo approved construction of an 8” waterline in Sprowel
Creek Road for the Kimtu Project
• LAFCo approval (July 2010) was conditioned in Resolution 10-
06 as follows:
1. Prior to funding or construction of the proposed project, the Garberville Sanitary District shall provide
documentation to Humboldt LAFCo that District policies have been adopted sufficient to ensure that no future
connections to the proposed water line outside of the District Boundary will be approved by the District for any
purpose, other than to correct an existing threat to public health and safety (as described in Government Code
Section 56133(c). Such policies shall not be amended, except with LAFCo approval to ensure that future
proposals for Sphere of Influence amendments and/or annexations would be considered under the assumption
that the water line is not available for purposes other than its specified intent of correcting a public health threat
to the existing residents of the Kimtu Meadows Subdivision, or until such time that the Garberville Sanitary
District completes their Municipal Service Review update and Sphere of Influence expansion and the Community
Humboldt County Plan and General Plan for the area is adopted.
2. Any future connections to the Garberville Sanitary District water line extended to serve Kimtu Meadows
Subdivision be submitted to Humboldt LAFCo for review and approval prior to the connection being made; and
3. Garberville Sanitary District will notify Humboldt LAFCo when service to the Kimtu Meadows Subdivision has
been established and provide a description of the constructed water system.
4. Garberville Sanitary District will adopt an ordinance dedicating the Kimtu Meadows Subdivision line to serve
only existing Kimtu connections and prohibiting future connections to the line.

Request for Connection to Kimtu Line

• In May 2012 the Commission approved
installation of two stub outs on the Kimtu Line
• There are 13 specific APNs requested for
connection to these Kimtu Line stub outs

Summary

• There are:
Numerous properties that GSD serves with water
which are currently outside of our Jurisdictional
Boundary but were in GWC’s service area
Several areas that were served by the GWC
outside of their service area
Minimal developable unserved properties being
brought into the boundary
The application that has been submitted for
processing cleans up all these old areas

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spamned
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spamned
10 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

“…our Jurisdictional
Boundary ”

which staff/board member might you be?

Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
10 months ago
Reply to  spamned

I believe TRG is a ‘Bored Member’ of the ‘Cut & Paste Commenters’ Clique” –

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

And which “Clique” might you be a “Staph Member” of?

“One The Many Reincarnations of the grey fox Still Bitter From Being Bested By TRG Club”…???

That would be my guess.🤷‍♂️😁

Other than that, what does your comment have to do with the subject matter?

Because, lo and behold, I’m not seeing it, Truth Be Told…

It’s just an unnecessary cheap shot.

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Truth Be Told
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Truth Be Told
10 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

My intended humorous comment was to defend you against insinuations that you were board or staff at GSD – nothing more or less. That was the point. But it inadvertently triggered your predilection for false assumptions- like the ridiculous assertion that I’ve ever posted as anything other than TBT. [edit]

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

I doubt it was to defend me against anything.

I still say it was a cheap shot.

You and spammed were both wrong.

And this latest comment of yours is only to defend yourself, nothing more.

And, since you didn’t answer, I will ask you again…

How was your comment relevant to the Letter to the Editor?

I was providing documentation to back up my previous comment, and as information in regards to Unreal Real’s original comment, for clarification of both comments.

He was pretty accurate that it was said to supposedly be a water line inclusive of only the Kimtu subdivision, and excluding all others, yet, inexplicably, there were 2 conditional stub-outs, later planned to be put in place, shortly thereafter, for over a dozen parcels not in the Kimtu subdivision.

It’s all spelled out clearly in the Annexation Project PDF link I provided.

Maybe you could try providing some documentation for your own false assumptions that I must have triggered.

You and grey fox have an ability to pun in common.

Maybe it’s just a coincidence.

Maybe, that is…

Geek with No Dog in the Fite
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Geek with No Dog in the Fite
10 months ago
Reply to  Truth Be Told

That is a quote from an actual document, which must be made available to any member of the public who requests it, not just the parties involved. Cutting and pasting from this actual document provides far more accurate evidence than all the speculation and opinions from anyone on any side of the issue. So TRG’s affiliation is not relevant. Actually — it’s been a lotta years back now — but I remember reading this document myself. At the time (and this is just my opinion) GSD was bending itself into knots to try to use the Kimtu line as a springboard for further development along Kimtu Road. This was complicated by the additional need of a handful of long-existing homes, served by an extra-legal agreement (if I recall correctly) that are even closer to the Tooby Ranch home parcel/SHCP than the Kimtu subdiv, to be properly annexed to GSD. It was a tangled web at the time, and it sounds like it still is.(It might or might not be relevant that the Kimtu subdiv had been under a boil-water order for something like 20 years because of the possibility of contamination of their line — but as far as I know, no one had gotten sick yet. A real cynic might say this whole effort to bring a line to Kimtu subdiv was a ploy on someone’s — GSD? SHCP? — part, to get around the annexation issue.)

The Unreal Real
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The Unreal Real
10 months ago

I think that’s what everybody except “The Real Guest” is saying. That the Park and GSD are shady and somebody should look into the motivation behind their actions and who stands to profit at the expense of the GSD ratepayers and the Eel River.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago

The park and the GSD are both shady, but in different ways.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  spamned

Not one of those words are mine.

100% “cut and pasted”, from the PDF , or the link, which was “copied and shared”…

You are barking up the wrong tree, sir or ma’am.

I am unaffiliated with GSD in any way, shape or form.

Maybe check your reasoning?

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Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
10 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

Here are the two Humboldt LAFCo Resolutions restricting use to the Kimtu Waterline:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18ahN6dRil1-dDvUfed742-ObC18XrFeX/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fikl8-1CRQHXk9ce3C2z8WxGQnQFLHad/view?usp=sharing

BTW, here is the Humboldt LAFCo meeting agenda concerning GSD connecting the Park to the Kimtu Waterline on July 19th, 9 am, should be interesting.

https://humboldtlafco.org/wp-content/uploads/6A_Updated-Water-Service-Agreement_GSD-SHCP.pdf

lynth
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lynth
11 months ago

One can submit reports to the Humboldt County Grand Jury for further investigation, by filling out the Citizen Complaint Form, via snail mail or online submission.

Find the form at: https://humboldtgov.org/DocumentCenter/View/54457

More info at 707-476-2475

MeAgain
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MeAgain
10 months ago

I believe the point of having the Park was to keep the developers off that land forever. Some here suggest that is the plan now that water is coming and that’s just lies. Park needs drinking water for all who walk, ride and play there. For the Events. For the future sports fields for kids. Seems simple to me. These endless rants from a bunch of curmudgeons who don’t live here is entertaining at times, mostly just an exercise in “LOOK AT ME, I HAVE AN OPINION”….how sad their lives are.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  MeAgain

Don’t be surprised if there are some new developments.

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
10 months ago
Reply to  MeAgain

Yeah, and those “future sports fields” where going to need 2 to 3 million gallons of water from the river each year, on top of a proposed new 2000 sq ft building for restrooms, locker rooms, concessions and storage, check with Jim Truitt, you can see the site plans here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mt415-IbvCx5j7Fk-7Ru09XUXs2bsNEm/view?usp=sharing

Richard Finch
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Richard Finch
10 months ago

Every time I see that EV or POM has written another letter to the editor, this quotation from Winston Churchill pops to mind: “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t shut up.”

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
10 months ago
Reply to  Richard Finch

And Mark Twain was quoted to say:

[edit–fanatic is a bit harsh but you went too far]

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
10 months ago
Reply to  Ed Voice

I am being punished and put on moderation for quoting Mark Twain?

Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
10 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Sorry for wasting your time, I apologize for the equivalent retaliation.

spamed
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spamed
10 months ago
Reply to  Richard Finch

No one else is paying attention and advocating for the residents of Gar(won’tdoitagain)berville and the South Fork of the Eel River, both of which are resources not boundless…limits are needed and the GDS has been pulling shady stunts for years trying to ‘develop’ SoHum.

You should be thanking him for his time and trouble.

Anon
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Anon
10 months ago

The park didn’t have GSD (or GWC) water, only the “yellow house” did, which the park board later surreptitiously plumbed to the park.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
10 months ago
Reply to  Anon

What fed the Tooby Ranch house?

GWC.

Were the “Yellow House”, and the “Tooby Ranch House”, (Community Park), both under the same ownership and parcel number and fed by a GWC meter at one time?

If so, maybe that would give both parcels prescriptive rights.

(Grandfathered in…)

Either way, GSD providing the additional meter would have been a good faith gesture.

Refusing to provide an additional meter to a residence on property that was previously served was in bad faith, IMO.

Last edited 10 months ago
Ed Voice
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Ed Voice
10 months ago
Reply to  The Real Guest

To answer your 1st two questions, NO!

The Tooby Ranch Caretakers house never used water from GWC until the Park illegally tapped into the waterline for the yellow house. The Ranch House got its water from a spring, collected in a water tank below Hwy 101 before the Park took over the place. If you want to learn the facts, you need to read, its all well documented here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iLfUtU2B9QM-v8_GMWrAQgx4-iXhyz-p/view?usp=sharing

According to Bill Jones, Art Tooby talked Fred Hurlbutt into setting a water meter on the east side of Hwy 101 and Bill Jones ran a waterline under 101 and down the hill to the yellow house in 1984/1985, This can be confirmed with Ron Copenhafer, who work for GWC.