PG&E Plans to Remove Both Potter Valley Project Dams—Mendo, Humboldt, Lake and Sonoma Fight

Cape Horn Dam in Potter Valley

Cape Horn Dam in Potter Valley

A planning group for the Russian River Water Forum, which is preparing for life after PG&E decommissions the Potter Valley Project, met for the first time yesterday in Ukiah. PG&E said in a town hall last month that its version of decommissioning means removing both dams. That’s unless an entity that is capable of running them steps forward before it submits a draft of the decommissioning plan to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, or FERC.

Tony Gigliotti, PG&E’s senior licensing project manager, laid out the timeline at a town hall about Scott Dam and Lake Pillsbury on April 27th.

“When we say decommissioning in this case, both dams will be removed as part of that, unless somebody comes forward with a proposal that PG&E looks at and accepts,” he said. “We need to ensure they can operate the dams after we give up ownership. In terms of timelines for the surrender application, there will be an initial draft November, 2023. A second draft, also available for public review, May 2024, and then the final application will be filed with FERC in January, 2025.”

Janet Walther, PG&E’s senior manager of hydro licensing, qualified that timeline a little.

“When PG&E submits our final surrender application to FERC, that would be the point of no return,” in terms of decommissioning, she said. “And really, the draft. We are looking to know, sooner than later, if there’s an entity interested in taking over the dam because that will change our surrender application and what we put in that surrender application. So I think we are looking and would like to see some initial proposals later this year, if there is interest. And we are talking with folks, as we have been since 2016, about potential interest in future ownership of Scott, and/or Cape Horn Dam.”

Needle valve gushing on Scott Dam.

Needle valve gushing on Scott Dam.

The Russian River Water Forum, an initiative of Sonoma Water, is coming to the end of a $400,000 grant from the California Division of Water Resources for planning about how to maintain a diversion from the Eel River into the Russian River after decommissioning. Much of that has gone to pay Kearns and West, a consulting firm, to facilitate meetings, draft a charter, and conduct interviews with people who will be affected by decommissioning.

Sonoma Water is also applying for a grant from the Bureau of Reclamation to bring a plan for the diversion up to the point where it will be ready for environmental review. They’re operating under the assumption that Scott Dam will come out, but that the future of Cape Horn Dam is uncertain. Members are encouraged to seek out additional funding sources, be they grants, taxes, or money from water sales.

Tribal governments and environmental NGO’s from the Eel and Russian River basins, water suppliers on the Russian River, and county representatives from Sonoma, Mendocino, Lake and Humboldt counties are among the thirty or so members of the forum. There is no limit on tribal seats, and members can still be added. The Potter Valley tribe has lands in both watersheds.

Mike Thompson, assistant general manager of Sonoma Water, hopes to affect the decommissioning plan with some viable alternatives.

In 2021, the Two-Basin Partnership, a group whose membership was similar to that of the forum, commissioned a feasibility study of several diversions without dams. Dave Manning, with Sonoma Water, said the agency would be getting more details about costs in the next year or so.

But Matt Clifford, of Trout Unlimited, balked at the idea of being part of a body that would ask PG&E to leave any of its infrastructure in the river. And Vivien Helliwell, representing the Pacific Coast Federation of Fishermen’s Associations, said, “The cost of moving water that may not be available” could be a moot point, considering “the possibility that the assumption is based on an illusion.” The Federation is party to a lawsuit filed against PG&E on Tuesday, claiming the Potter Valley Project violates the Endangered Species Act.

There is no consensus on a starting point. But dates and times for four working groups have been set, and members are gravitating towards the groups they believe suit their expertise. The groups will focus on water supply and fisheries, finance, water rights, and the governance of whatever entity takes over a diversion after decommissioning.

A Russian River Resiliency Subcommittee is expected to convene sometime next year.

But tribal interests in the Eel River basin are not interested in continuing to provide water to the Russian River. Ted Hernandez, the Chair of the Wiyot Tribe in Humboldt County, warned that a continued diversion would continue to harm the Eel, and declared that the tribes, who have relied on the water since time immemorial, have never ceded their water rights and never will.

Don McEnhill, of the environmental advocacy group Russian Riverkeepers, suggested that there are many ways that Russian River water users can increase supply without relying on another watershed, from improved monitoring and reporting to using recycled water and recharging the basin. Nikcole Whipple, a member of the Round Valley Indian Tribes and an intern with the environmental NGO Save California Salmon, asked if the Russian River was capable of being resilient without water from the Eel. Sean White, the director of water and sewer for the City of Ukiah, said the Potter Valley Project has permanently altered the hydrology of the Upper Russian River watershed.

Radial gates of Scott Dam

Radial gates of Scott Dam

The various interests in the protracted discussions over the Potter Valley Project have been having the same fights for years. The forum members had barely finished introducing themselves when Charlie Schneider, of California Trout, said that he believes the forum is set up to minimize Eel River interests. Carol Cinquini, of the Save Lake Pillsbury Alliance, countered that her community would be hit the hardest by the removal of Scott Dam. “We want to create a fish ladder and refurbish the dam,” she said, while petitioning for a seat on the forum. The group agreed to give her a seat at future meetings, because the Lake County Board of Supervisors had also requested that the Pillsbury community be represented.

The costs associated with decommissioning have not yet been quantified.

Lake County Supervisor Bruno Sabatier warned of environmental disaster if Scott Dam is removed without proper restoration. Several forum members chimed in about the lack of enforcement when it comes to illegal diversions for cannabis as well as other purposes, in both watersheds. And controlling the pikeminnow that slipped out of Lake Pillsbury into the entire Eel River watershed is a daunting undertaking. The cost of removing the dams is unknown at this point, but it will be borne by ratepayers.

The Planning Group is scheduled to meet once a month.

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Ben Round
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Ben Round
11 months ago

Go ahead. Remove them. Make our day.

The Unpopular Opinion
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The Unpopular Opinion
11 months ago

Californians used to fight over “The Peripheral Canal” that was somehow going to drain Lake Tahoe to water LA…

This seems like a more interesting project. Wasn’t PG&E using the dams to generate electricity? Isn’t California short on that?

And won’t tearing down the dams result in dead fish, soggy towns for the winners, and drought for the losers?

As ignorant as I am, I’d welcome an explanation.

Mr. BearD
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Mr. Bear
11 months ago

I don’t even know where to start. 

And the peripheral canal had nothing to do with Tahoe

kelley lincoln
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kelley lincoln
11 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

9mw on its best day.
and fwiw, the cpuc allowed pge to bill all its customers for upgrades to that water transfer to the russian river. did you benefit? you surely paid if youre on the grid.
in the 2000s pge rebuilt the redwood pipes that carry the water downslope after it tunnels through the mountain. around the same time, pge also built plumbing around the generating units. I dont know why there wasnt a water rights lawsuit right then because the russian river users have access to that water because it is “abandoned” by Pge. and pg&e’s water right is to make electricity, not to transfer water on their ratepayers’ dime.
in the meantime, parties that werent there yesterday that probably should be are the city managers of Fortuna and Rio Dell along with County Supervisor, Michelle Buschnell too actually. These are municipalities with a lot of skin in the game when that dam fails.
It’s sat there safely for 100 years and that is a testiment to the skills of old, but it remains true that the bend in that dam is there because the rock it’s attached to moved that far during the dam’s construction.
It’s also true that an earthquake fault, the bartlet, runs thru there.
If i lived along the valley of the mainstem, i would be wanting representatives, at a minimum, to be demanding the dam be rebuilt with engineering based on a cascadia size siesmic event.
environmentally, the riparian damage from a dam failure, especially in winter when the dam is full and most likely to fail in a siesmic event, would be Mt St Helen’s levels of catastrophic. Friends of the Eel have been talking about that endlessly. There is a good series on the matter on their webpage.

The Unpopular Opinion
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The Unpopular Opinion
11 months ago
Reply to  kelley lincoln

Nice synopsis. Thanks. I’ve been away from Norcal for over half my life now, though I still miss it…

For What It’s Worth
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For What It’s Worth
10 months ago
Reply to  kelley lincoln

With our current risk of electricity shortage 9mws can make the difference between power on or rotating outages.
Also it’s important to note that there is no comparison between a Bartlett Springs Fault earthquake and the Cascadia Subduction zone earthquake. Bartlett Springs is a strike slip fault and is capable of 7.5M with shaking lasting about 30 seconds. The Cascadia is a mega thrust fault which will likely rupture across all 800 miles of the subduction zone at a +9M (1,000 times greater than the 7.5M) and shake for 5 mins. Impacting from Vancouver BC to Eureka, Ca. and result in a 60-100’ tsunami wave.

A loss of the dam is also not comparable to a Mt St Helens lahar.

I’d imagine disastrous flood events occurred prior to the installation of the dams. I’d also say the presence of the dams has likely controlled and mitigated damage from those types of events for the past 100+ years.

This type of disinformation and fear mongering discredit any valid information you may have shared.

If the intent of this effort is to save salmon, why can’t we find a solution that supports both watersheds? I don’t understand why the ONLY solution is for the dams to come out and all the water to remain in the Eel.

Our decisions have consequences as were now experiencing with the wildfire environment. We went from one end of the spectrum to the other and now we’ve created forests with too much fuel. We are doing the same thing with the Potter Valley Project, one extreme to the other.

We need collaboration and compromise. The needs of the environment and of people can be met as long as we all remain focused on the same goal.

The Unpopular Opinion
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The Unpopular Opinion
11 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

I guess you missed the sarcasm/humor; but that was the sort of anti-canal hype back in those days…

Zando
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Zando
11 months ago

I would recommend using your pal google to look up some of those questions you have rather than have some likely half informed commenter give you incorrect info.

The Unpopular Opinion
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The Unpopular Opinion
11 months ago
Reply to  Zando

You seem to have a lower opinion of those here than I do… I’m sorry that has happened to you…

lol
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lol
11 months ago

The project does not generate a significant amount of energy and has been down for many months due to damaged equipment. Listen to the EcoNews Report on this topic.

The Unpopular Opinion
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The Unpopular Opinion
11 months ago
Reply to  lol

Thank you.

Korina42D
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11 months ago

The dams generate a piddling amount of electricity; their only value is the water diversions to the Russian River, which can be accomplished other ways.
As for how to remove a dam, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUZE7kgXKJc
PS It’s a fast time lapse, easier to watch at .75 speed.

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The Unpopular Opinion
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The Unpopular Opinion
11 months ago
Reply to  Korina42

Thanks! I admit to thinking it would be less well controlled and more sudden…

peter boudoures
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peter boudoures
11 months ago
Reply to  Korina42

Recreation is another reason. Thousands of people enjoy the lake

tru matters
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tru matters
11 months ago

Will the right thing get done? I hope so. Will monied special interests step in? Probably.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
11 months ago
Reply to  tru matters

Not with Thompson, McGuire and Huffman wanting to steal Eel water for their down south constituents. With them, the Eel doesn’t have a chance.

Iliketables
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Iliketables
11 months ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Have no fear, politicians are no match for corporations. They say jump and the politicians ask “how high?”

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
11 months ago
Reply to  Iliketables

Why hasn’t anyone wondered how politicians get so darn wealthy? It’s not a matter of “how high”, it’s “how much are you willing to pay.” They always seem to be getting rich legitimately. Like being super clever at the stock market.

“Whiskey is for drinking, water is for fighting”. The new fight is going to be power for our Prius.

Iliketables
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Iliketables
11 months ago

Copper is the next big thing

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
11 months ago
Reply to  Iliketables

Politicians eat steak because they back corporations. Don’t worry they’ll prop a good candidate in front of you to vote for,crack me up.

The Real Guest
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The Real Guest
11 months ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Hey Lone Ranger…

Shasta Lake is almost full!

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/shasta-lake-nearly-filled-to-the-brim-following-remarkable-winter-storm-turnaround/

( Never underestimate the Lone Ranger)

You were right.

Crack me up.

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lol
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lol
11 months ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Why are you always asking for people to provide you crack cocaine?

burblestein
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burblestein
11 months ago
Reply to  Iliketables

As well as, “which way?”

Mr. Clark
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Mr. Clark
11 months ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

that is for sure with those three, they are owned by big wine

Farce
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Farce
11 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Clark

Money doesn’t talk it swears. I sometimes wish that fish had money…but no, nobody who should get that water has money and all the destructive assholes do….

Vet
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Vet
11 months ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

What? You have it backwards. Or was that sarcasm?

lol
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lol
11 months ago
Reply to  Vet

No he actually got something right. None of those political are on our side.

Two Dogs
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Two Dogs
11 months ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

You may be right. I spent many years involved in river politics and Thompson chose to ignore pressing issues on the Eel while concentrating his attention and our money on the Klamath to divert attention from the Eel. In my experienced opinion he is nothing but a two faced carpetbagger working for special interests.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
11 months ago

If they can remove Klamath fans dams they surely can remove Eel dams

Bozo
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Bozo
11 months ago

Follow the money. It will determine what’s done.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
11 months ago

Quit talking start working get the job done we’ve all been waiting. Environmental disaster if they remove the dam? Has anybody looked at how well the forests have recovered after being totally denuded from the fires? I will put a good bet on the fact that mother nature will have the upper hand in the recovery of the valleys.

sohumjoe
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sohumjoe
11 months ago

I’ve lived in SoHum for 43 years and as long as I’ve lived here there has always been talk of removing the dams. I hope it finally comes true. I remember talk back in the ’80’s about blowing up the tunnel that supplies the Russian, “Monkeywrench Gang” style.
Ahhh those were the days

sparky
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sparky
11 months ago

Stop stealing Eel River water!
Vote them out!!

Bozo
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Bozo
11 months ago
Reply to  sparky

Sighs. Votes don’t matter. Money matters. That is the reason for the decline of America.

Farce
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Farce
11 months ago
Reply to  Bozo

And the more money you have the more money you get….massive concentration into the hands of the already-wealthy is what’s going down and there’s not a whiff of it in any mainstream news media. If you’re not concerned then you’re not paying attention…

lol
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lol
11 months ago
Reply to  Bozo

Im not anti-capitalist, I support mixed-market economies, but our disgusting lack of regulation is the cause of all our shortcomings.

Old SchoolD
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11 months ago

Seeing is believing. Expect lawsuits that will delay this for a few lifetimes.

farfromputin
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farfromputin
11 months ago

When the human species becomes endangered, we can rebuild them. This is not rocket science.

Guest
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Guest
11 months ago

A well written artcle. No answers but good exposition of the complicated issues issues. Thank you.

Legallettuce
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11 months ago

//Several forum members chimed in about the lack of enforcement when it comes to illegal diversions for cannabis//

Cannabis is legal operations weed is not. So let’s get back to saying WEED. Please don’t disrespect us by associating us with cannabis. Secondly, quit blaming us for thinking we are the only ones causing harm for water supplies. Quit grow’in almonds and rice in the valley. If you “forum members” keep pointing your crooked little fingers at the wrong players (Who are mostly way more environmentally aware than the valley growers) you’ll never accomplish shit. Keep us outta your blame game we ain’t the issue.

lol
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lol
11 months ago

Lake County Supervisor Bruno Sabatier warned of environmental disaster if Scott Dam is removed without proper restoration.

Obviously this in not a genuine concern from the dishonest actor Bruno Sabatier.

Crap
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Crap
11 months ago

Bout damn time. I will believe it when I see.it

I am far from an envirolemenist but I do have some common sense.

There will be some down sides of taking it out like the release of a bunch of sediment that has built up over the years.

There is never all good or all bad on a project like this. The question is does the positives outweigh the negetives. The real world is a bitch. Considering the minimal power it produces along with maintace up keep plus the state of the eel River lacking water then yes let’s take it out.

c u 2morrowD
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11 months ago
Reply to  Crap

that and there are species of fish behind that dam that don’t belong in the eel.river

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The
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The
11 months ago

The overlap in time between the problem being recognized and the solution being implemented is astounding. That we haven’t figured it out sooner, we wait as a species to the last minute to save our lifeblood our food sources, where has our common sense gone, it’s been bought and sold to the highest bidder!

Zeke Mcfartly
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Zeke Mcfartly
11 months ago

CalTrout, rubbing thier hands together with maniacal glee, are intent with destroying water storage.