Rally for Peace in Ukraine in Arcata on Saturday

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Press release from Peace Activists:
RALLY FOR PEACE IN UKRAINE!
Saturday, March 18th – 2pm – Arcata Plaza
Speakers, Music, Rally and March for Peace!
END THE UKRAINE WAR WITH
CEASEFIRE AND DIPLOMACY!
20th ANNIVERSARY OF IRAQ “SHOCK AND AWE” BOMBING
STOP THE MASTERS OF WAR!
For more information, contact Dave Meserve: [email protected], 707-834-3612




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I support the current thing guys look at me!
Interesting meme … oh the irony:
“Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, born on 7 October 1952, President of the Russian Federation, is allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute).“
— International Criminal Court, March 17, 2023
Well he isnt talking about fathering the child but pumping them with ideology that leaves them dependent on the government and desiring a commune instead of working and telling the government to F off. Nothing better than removing the child from its birth parents
When Putin withdraws invading forces, the war will stop.
I find it a bit sad and depressing that the anti-war folks on both the right and the left refuse to acknowledge that simple fact. Russia invaded a sovereign country for the sole purpose of expanding their land and resource base. And appears to have committed numerous atrocities in doing so.
War sucks. I get it. And the US is far too trigger happy when it comes to foreign wars and we’ve made serious mistakes in military action in foreign lands. But helping Ukraine stand up to an invader seems like the right thing to do.
Biden is sending arms to Ukraine…
Biden is sending reinforcements to Putin…
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/18/biden-administration-russia-deportations
Mostly not being deported as the article itself says. “While receiving a credible fear determination is just an initial step in having a potentially successful asylum claim, it is important for asylum seekers, as immigration officials have largely been releasing migrants who meet this criteria as they go through the application process, Scarborough explained.” The headline screams that this is a change of policy but then proceeds to say the two deported did not file an appeal. That is hardly a change of policy.
Lots of the people that complain in this comment section that no one on the left is against the war will be there, right? No supportive posts here from them yet.
In spirit of not on form
Biden will always “take”…
bellingham beauty via the old country (mendo)
Thank you Mr Meserve, Ms Taylor and others for doing your parts, as citizens of a would-be great country, for providing a platform to others, and furthering the waves to push back against the masters of war!
Too bad they couldn’t got to Russia to do that. If successful, it would actually succeed since Russia is basically conduction unilateral aggression. At least it might leak into Russian consciousness where their government totally control is the press. As it is now, Ukraine faces the same fate as Chechnya. But without even the Chechnya provocation. No wonder they fight.
“But Chechnya’s experience is worth recalling since it was the first time we saw Vladimir V. Putin develop his game plan to reassert Russian dominion wherever he wanted. His methods are brute force and terror: the bombing and besieging of cities, deliberate targeting of civilians, and the abduction and jailing of local leaders and journalists and their replacement by loyal quislings. The tactics are straight out of Stalin’s playbook, as former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright wrote shortly before her death.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/world/europe/russia-chechnya-grozny-ukraine.html
It certainly would be a test that the PRC would watch carefully in their intent to take over Taiwan. All that needs to be seen about what happen if the PCR takes over Taiwan can been seen in what is happening in Hong Kong where no one is too big or too small to suffer the Party’s attention.
It’s not our business. The more the US supports Ukraine the more death and destruction for the Ukrainians and the closer we edge to WW3.
When does it become our business? At what point will it be too late to do anything if it becomes our business? When should the US view bombing nuclear plants that threaten European allies a problem? When does mass murder of civilians get the attention of the US? When did the PRC and Russia decide all they had to do was announce it’s none of the US’s business and they have nuclear weapons to cow Americans into co opting their party line? When did the right wing objection about a lack of control at the US border turn into not objecting when others run armies into neighboring countries? When did the left decide that no nation has the right to fight off an invasion? When did the US whitewash the memory of the USSR holding eastern Europe in a strangle hold and using it as a pattern for doing the same in South America, the Caribbean and Asia? When does any country object to giving supplies to a country they who was no threat to them and successfully make the idea stick by threatening nuclear retaliation?
What really is worrying is the ease which foreign propagandist seem to fill the minds of Americans with utter nonsense in order to create ever more self hate and division? Left or right, they push the buttons and Americans jerk. When did they influence the few to raise paranoia to a level that incapacitated the whole country? When was the point reached where both the right and left wing only agree about one thing- that they are living in a tyranny of evil that needs to be crushed but totally ignore that the foreign governments who are telling them this are places that arrest anyone dared to oppose a single thing done by those governments? Nothing needs to even make sense for both left and right to latch onto it as a weapon against their fellow citizens.
When did the US become so full of naive tools? People who attack each other with such hate and view anyone attacking from outside as a friend just because they hate too? I read something about the use of leaded fuel dropping the intelligence of western countries. That’s as good an explanation as any other.
Russia would haver never entered Ukraine if NATO didn’t push it. There is no reason for the US to have foreign entanglements. The US and our tax dollars are not responsible for Europe. Europe can take care of itself.
Well that’s Russia’s Party line. Literally his line- “Unlike his speech earlier in the week, Mr. Putin spent relatively little time rehashing false stories of Ukrainian atrocities against the country’s Russian-speaking minority. Those claims had served as justification for his decision to recognize Russian-backed separatist forces, which have held parts of eastern Ukraine since 2014, as independent states that he was intervening to protect.
Rather, he portrayed the war as a pre-emptive strike against Western aggression and a decisive battle to protect Russia’s rightful imperial hold over Europe’s east.”
NATO did nothing but exist and Putin declared it a threat.
So what was this “pushing” that so frightened Russia that they invaded? So far it seems that Putin rattled his sabre over the former Soviet blocks countries and they took him seriously. And they watched the Putin repeatedly attempt to get his people elected in other countries. No one but Putin expanded NATO. As he continues to do. In fact Ukraine was a pretty happy client state until Russia decided it was not good enough.
NATO is the expansion of empire. Forcing control of natural resources and manipulating financial systems to benefit European financial interests is very aggressive and it doesn’t need to be with bullets. The push is to use Arabian NG in place of Russian because the House of Saud and Qatar and Co are more than willing to go along with the restructuring of the world energy and financial systems. Russia did not. This is a massive shift in a global power structure with certain elites cornering the last of the Petrol markets before the West starts the phase out to, so-called, green energies. To pretend this is righteous is myopic and fails to look at every conflict, and the pretense, the US has been in or involved in since WW2.
Simply put: the acts by the big organizations (both NATO and Russia) are about consolidation of power and expansion of influence. Ultimately, it only grows the power of the State and undermines the liberty of the People.
It wouldn’t suprise me if some big moves are made next week while people are distracted by the Trump circus.
Russia sold plenty petroleum products to the EU countries. Who were happy to buy it until Putin made it clear there were political strings attached. He held the fuel supplies hostage to keeping quiet about his invasion. That EU countries wanted to push a green agenda was not some twisted plot against Russia. Although that’s another bit of Putin propaganda that apparently sells well to that section of America who needed some cause to replace the covid vaccine plot.
Even if true, none of that justifies a second invasion of Ukraine. Not in any way
So, Victoria Nuland meddling in Ukraine’s elections back in 2014 have no relevance? Hmm.
Not a single Ukraine flag was at this rally.
What do you take from none being there?
Each person can interpret that absence as they choose.
Still, the absence is noteworthy. Because those who express concern for the people of Ukraine typically display the flag as a sign of support.
I believe the protest was against the ‘masters of war’ (aka: military industrial complex). It was not for or against The Ukraine.
“Rally For Peace In Ukraine” but not for or against the victim. Ok.