Two New Hospitalizations, Says Humboldt County Public Health

Press release from Humboldt County Public Health:novel coronavirus Covid-19 Humboldt

Humboldt County Public Health reported today two new hospitalizations of two residents in their 70s. An additional 38 confirmed positive cases of COVID-19 were announced as well as 20 new probable cases for the period between Tuesday, Jan. 31 and Tuesday, Feb. 7. The total number of confirmed cases in the county stands at 23,306. An additional 6,049 cases are reported as probable.*

Humboldt County COVID-19 vaccination data is available at the California Department of Public Health’s Tracking COVID-19 in California Data Dashboard. Residents can scroll down to the “County and statewide data” section and input “Humboldt County” to get local vaccination data.

OptumServe continues to offer rapid antigen testing and PCR testing services at the Wharfinger Building in Eureka five days a week. Walk-ins will receive only rapid antigen testing unless the attendee specifically states they require a PCR test. Appointments for antigen testing can be made by calling 888-634-1123. Wharfinger testing runs Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and is closed from 11 a.m. to noon and 4 to 5 p.m. Flu testing is also available.

The Wharfinger site’s last day will be Saturday, Feb. 25, three days before the state’s COVID-19 State of Emergency officially ends Feb. 28. Californians in need of COVID-19 testing can purchase over the counter (OTC) tests at local stores or pharmacies or order through their health insurers or the federal government at https://special.usps.com/testkits.

Individuals who use OTC tests and do not have a health care provider, may access test-to-treat services by contacting Sesame Telehealth at https://sesamecare.com/covidca or by calling 1-833-686-5051.

Children 6 months and older are eligible for the COVID vaccine and bivalent boosters. To learn more or to book an appointment, talk to your child’s health care provider. Scheduling for children ages 6 months through 5 years is also available on MyTurn.ca.gov.

See the schedule below for specific Public Health vaccination and testing clinic dates, times, locations and available services. Bivalent boosters will be provided at all.

Willow Creek — Thursday, Feb. 9, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Willow Creek Public Health (77 Walnut Way)

Arcata — Thursday, Feb. 9, 9 a.m. to 1:15 p.m.
Arcata Transit Center (925 E St.)

Redway — Friday, Feb. 10, 10 a.m. to 2:45 p.m.
Healy Senior Center (456 Briceland Road)

Arcata — Saturday, Feb. 11, 11 a.m. to 2:45 p.m.
St. Mary’s Church (1690 Janes Road)

 Eureka — Tuesday, Feb. 14, 9 a.m. to 3:15 p.m. (Closed from noon to 1 p.m.) 
Public Health Main (529 I St.)

* “Confirmed cases” represent the total confirmed positive PCR test results or detection of SARS-CoV-2 by genomic sequencing, and “probable cases” are individuals who:

  • Have a positive antigen (Ag) test for COVID-19, or
  • Were diagnosed with COVID-19 disease by a health care provider, or
  • Have symptoms of COVID-19 disease after being in close contact with a person having a PCR-confirmed test result, or
  • Were a decedent whose death certificate lists COVID-19 as a cause or significant contributing factor of their death, in the absence of a positive PCR test result.

For information about COVID-19, please call Humboldt County Public Health 
at 707-445-6201, or email [email protected]. 
For local updates, visit Humboldt Health Alert at humboldtgov.org/HumboldtHealthAlert.
Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
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grey fox
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1 year ago

Everything is relative in this world, where change alone endures.
Leon Trotsky~

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

SYDNEY, Feb 8 (Reuters) – Australia will roll out a fifth dose of COVID-19 vaccine later this month to all citizens aged 18 and above who have not contracted coronavirus or been vaccinated in the past six months, Health Minister Mark Butler said on Wednesday.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/australia-expand-rollout-fifth-covid-vaccine-shot-2023-02-08/

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HairGel’sEmergencyPowersStripped2/28
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HairGel’sEmergencyPowersStripped2/28
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Because the first four doses were a placebo…

Misguided
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Misguided
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

And your point is?;

Skitty
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Skitty
1 year ago
Reply to  Misguided

You must be new to the comment section. Grey Fox is always the first to post about any COVID article. And soon Guest will flood the comments with more comments than anyone, including numerous replies to their own comments. If we are lucky Giant Squirrel might make his obligatory comment about “Biden Inflation” or “Hunters lap top”.
Rinse and repeat week after week for the last 9 months.

Misguided
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Misguided
1 year ago
Reply to  Skitty

No I see it… And even tho I won’t say who I agree with more,[edit].. id kikentonhear their take in the newest Cochrane report.. a very reputable scientific outfit… I have no horse in the Covid race.. I believe in the freedom to be alive and it’s up to each of us to consider whatvthat means for us.. the us v then thing is old and as far as I’m concerned, grey fox, gia t sqrl, they just wanna fight each other.. which is pointless.. either way I hope everyone is enjoying the late winter sunshine

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Skitty

More comments than anyone…???

Balderdash.

That is way beyond incorrect.

Ridiculous even.

Counting the last three covid articles, my comments have been outnumbered by over 2.6 to 1, compared to the most prolific commenter, previously mentioned…

131 to 49…

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

LOL. You actually counted?
😂
What a fucking colossal waste of time over a remark on here….SMH

Bet if you counted words posted he would be right

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Aaaa1
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Aaaa1
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

👍

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Skitty

I just skip by any commenter whose opinion I don’t find interesting

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Misguided

Who Was Leon Trotsky?Leon Trotsky’s revolutionary activity as a young man spurred his first of several ordered exiles to Siberia. He waged Russia’s 1917 revolution alongside Vladimir Lenin. As commissar of war in the new Soviet government, he helped defeat forces opposed to Bolshevik control. As the Soviet government developed, he engaged in a power struggle against Joseph Stalin, which he lost, leading to his exile again and, eventually, his murder.

https://www.biography.com/political-figures/leon-trotsky

Seems someone has a fixation on Russia & China

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

“Easy to criticize, more difficult to be correct.”

Charlie Chan~

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Bearjoo
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Bearjoo
1 year ago
Reply to  Misguided

The vaxxed = Trotsky-ites?

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Misguided

Why 3 downvoters for that innocuous comment?

HairGel’sEmergencyPowersStripped2/28
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HairGel’sEmergencyPowersStripped2/28
1 year ago

What illness were the folks in their 70’s hospitalized for

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Misguided

Good Hygiene is always a healthier option.
But, like most things, a balance is important.
People need to consider their own situation, health, environment, exposure to others, etc. not just for covid but in all situations.
Realize one shoe doesn’t fit all feet, so don’t squeeze into a shoe too small.
Always reserve the right to make your own decisions.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

Viral Clip of Jill Biden Kissing Kamala Harris’ Husband Leaves Internet Puzzled
On Feb. 7, U.S. President Joe Biden‘s State of the Union address took place, and there were many notable guests, but everyone couldn’t stop talking about what happened between first lady Dr. Jill Biden and Kamala Harris‘ husband, second gentleman Doug Emhoff.
A clip of the duo greeting each other with a kiss on the lips went viral on Twitter, with many watching the live broadcast equally as shocked and confused by the exchange.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/viral-clip-jill-biden-kissing-210207698.html

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2 Someones forgot to wear their masks.

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Entering a world of pain
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Entering a world of pain
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Gross. And gross to you

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

With all the fuss about Trump’s words back in the day of Hustler and Playboy magazine, you’ve gotta admit the Biden’s have a very unusual household. Including sending the fbi to find his daughter’s diary, considering what she wrote in it, and then there’s Hunter.
MAGA didn’t do that, the Biden’s did.

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Sigh
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Sigh
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

The MAGA’s fogging up their screens, watching and sharing this stuff over and over. Lol.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Sigh

What fogged up my screen was Baker’s foggy memory during the Twitter Testimony. Almost as foggy as Biden’s.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

More tempest in a teapot from the Republicans….

Ex-Twitter officials reject GOP claims of government collusion

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/08/1155491204/ex-twitter-officials-reject-gop-claims-of-government-collusion

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Misguided

Still misguided I see.

That is like the 5th time you have posted that article.
Twice in just this article.
Wasn’t interested the first time. Still not interested.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

What’s your point?

Misguided
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Misguided
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Of course you’re not interested because it smashes your narrative

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

The Republican led panel into Twitter brought this out at least.

@[email protected]
Senior Twitter employee admits under oath that Twitter made exceptions to its racism policies to accomodate racist tweets by Trump, even going so far as to change their polices to avoid having to enforce them on Trump’s tweets.

Libertybiberty
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Libertybiberty
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Thailand is canceling its COVID-19 vaccine contract with Pfizer after its princess fell into a coma following a booster shot.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Libertybiberty

Big pharma in payment stand-off over millions of unwanted Covid vaccines
https://www.medicalbrief.co.za/big-pharma-in-payment-stand-off-over-millions-of-unwanted-covid-vaccines/

Kym Kemp
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Libertybiberty

This is absolutely false. Anyone repeating it will be deleted. “Thailand’s Department of Disease Control also rejected the claims as “fake news.” Princess Bajrakitiyabha’s condition was attributed to an irregular heartbeat caused by a mycoplasma infection, and medical experts confirmed the infection is not known to be a side effect of COVID vaccines.” https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccine-pfizer-thailand-203948163859

Libertybiberty
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Libertybiberty
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’m thinking it will be known soon enough. But I’m no expert

Kym Kemp
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Libertybiberty

If Thailand changes their policy or even if they publicly reconsider their policy, of course you are allowed to state that. But at this point the government is adamantly denying the stance you say they have.

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

https://www.unofficialroyalty.com/princess-bajrakitiyabha-of-thailand/

This link mentions the mycoplasma infection…

I had read somewhere else previously that she also suffered a brain aneurysm, and a subarachnoid hemorrhage…

This link also mentions the brain aneurysm being officially mentioned…

However, it does not corroborate the subarachnoid hemorrhage that I read about earlier.

But maybe they go together without saying…???

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

The second one leads to your comment below. The first one is by greyfox but doesn’t have any links.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

What would you call these?
@chadloder @kolektiva.social
in his post. Look at @kolektiva.social

gf
The Republican led panel into Twitter brought this out at least.
@[email protected]
………………………………………………….
See where it takes you.

Or read in my post what I found about it.
Just last month, without warning or explanation, Instagram disabled the account of the Pacific NorthWest Youth Liberation Front, a decentralized network of youth collectives committed to taking direct action toward ‘total liberation.’ In response, the group encouraged people to find them on Kolektiva Social and on their blog.

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Kym Kemp
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Those are not links…A link when clicked takes you to the site. These require you to use a search engine to find out who they refer to. The @ sign attached to someone’s handle is for tagging/getting someone’s attention within a social media platform. But using @someone here will not bring their attention or anyone else’s.

fishkiller
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fishkiller
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“experts confirmed the infection is not known to be a side effect”

……..so they confirmed that they don’t know……….quite the fact check

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

In August, Facebook purged a number of anarchist news organizations and left-wing activists from the site under the guise of a larger ban targeting far-right extremists and QAnon conspiracy theorists. Following the ban, a group of anarchists created their own social media server called Kolektiva Social on Mastodon, a decentralized, non-corporate social media alternative. The server, dubbed an ‘instance’ in Mastodon-speak, has since amassed over 2,100 users and continues to grow from an influx of left-leaning activists who feel they are targeted by larger social media platforms. Just last month, without warning or explanation, Instagram disabled the account of the Pacific NorthWest Youth Liberation Front, a decentralized network of youth collectives committed to taking direct action toward ‘total liberation.’ In response, the group encouraged people to find them on Kolektiva Social and on their blog.

https://www.mic.com/impact/inside-kolektiva-the-social-media-platform-built-by-anarchists-activists-42617028
………………………
Anyone getting the picture? Not anywhere I want to go.
I’m surprised Ms Kemp allows these sites.

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

What’s important is if the post is true. Which it is.

That post was pulled from Mastodon.

LOL which you provided an active link to. I didn’t you did! 😂 So actually your complaing about yourself.

You made the choice to go there. This is all to funny.
Thanks for the laugh.

PS: Mastodon was started in opposition to Twitter. And as you found out the link to them doesn’t get neutered.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Never heard of it until you posted @
Why post it, if it’s not where you got it?

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

PS: You also provided a Twitter link to their site. Good job on promoting them. 😂

Glad your such a believer in free speech.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

If Kym keeps the posts up that’s on the two of you.
I would delete all of it if it were up to me.
Your concern for our youth is underwhelming.
You seem downright gleeful to promote that crap.

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

That Twitter link is from 2020 by the way.

Ms Kemp and I had nothing to do with promoting their site you did..😂

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

There’s a difference between promote and expose, look it up.
I’m sure the readers can connect the dots.

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Yes yes we will nominate you for a Pulitzer…🏆

“Good night, don’t let the bed bugs bite”

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

“When one paints self into corner, best to quit painting”
Charlie Chan-

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

I’m not in a corner, Now people know more about the group and their destruction in the PNW and across the Country.
And people here know you promote it, and Ms Kemp has allowed it.
Hopefully no one will use the info to join it, but birds of a feather always find each other.

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The Real Brian
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

I’m sure the readers can connect the dots.

Yes we do.. I wonder why a certain group of commenters can’t.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

“GOP rep Lauren Boebert slammed for tweet seeming to blame Biden for 2020 COVID school closures.”

Cheri Jacobus

@CheriJacobus
·

Shrieking hyena seems unaware Trump was President in the spring of 2020 when schools were closed.
>>>>>>>>>?>>>>>>>>?
Lauren Boebert

@laurenboebert
“When schools were closed.” – Biden

Hey Joe, YOU CLOSED THEM!

Let’s Go Republicans!

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The Real Brian
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Later during the hearing, Rep. Maxwell Frost (D-Fla.) asked Navaroli a follow-up question about the contents of Teigen’s tweet.

“Would you like me to give the direct quote?” Navaroli asked before continuing, “Please excuse my language — this is a direct quote — but Chrissy Teigen referred to Donald Trump as a ‘p***y ass bitch.'”

Frost replied, “OK. Free speech. And what happened after Ms. Teigen posted her tweet? What did the White House do? What did the Trump White House do?”

Navaroli said, “Per my understanding, the White House reached out to ask that this tweet be removed. It was my team’s job” to review it under the company’s abusive behaviors policy. “At that time, up to three insults were allowed. So it was our job to determine how many insults were included within that phrase.”

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

Big investigative report out yesterday on Nordstream from same reputable journalist that exposed Mai Lai and Abu Ghraib. Very detailed, as important of a read as knowing about those earlier atrocities. Biden Administration needs to explain.
For some reason Akismet today won’t allow posting a direct link to the article but the article is linked at this comment from yesterday
https://kymkemp.com/2023/02/01/2-new-deaths-1-new-hospitalization/#comment-1606416

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2023/2/8/23591132/cdc-exaggerated-evidence-supporting-mask-mandates-column-jacob-sullum

‘New research shows CDC exaggerated the evidence for masks to fight COVID’

“The analysis found that wearing masks in public “probably makes little or no difference.” ”

…”These findings go to the heart of the case for mask mandates, a policy that generated much resentment and acrimony during the pandemic. They also show that the CDC, which has repeatedly exaggerated the evidence in favor of masks, cannot be trusted as a source of public health information.”…

This bears repeating…

“They also show that the CDC, which has repeatedly exaggerated the evidence in favor of masks, cannot be trusted as a source of public health information.”

I couldn’t agree more…

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

From your link which was an analysis of studies.

Two RCTs were conducted during the pandemic, one in Denmark and one in Bangladesh.

The authors suggest several possible explanations for these results, including “poor study design,” inconsistent or improper mask use, “self-contamination of the mask by hands,” “saturation of masks with saliva” and increased risk-taking based on “an exaggerated sense of security.”

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Griffon
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Griffon
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Probably a pretty reasonable study then since most of the population couldn’t seem to wear masks correctly?

PenguinnD
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

What you present as part of the “research,” “They also show that the CDC, which has repeatedly exaggerated the evidence in favor of masks, cannot be trusted as a source of public health information,” is actually the conclusion of the author of the “commentary,” Jacob Sullum, of Reason Magazine. Reason Magazine is a right-wing biased site, so one should take anything they say with a ton of salt.
Please stop posting misleading information.

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Penguinn

People are running out of things to post that fits their narrative..

Desperation is setting in so grasping at straws is a last resort..

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago

NAIAD director Dr. Anthony Fauci warned in January 2017 that the Trump administration would face a surprise infectious disease outbreak.
Rating:
True

https://www.snopes.com/fact-
check/fauci-warn-surprise-outbreak/

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Kym Kemp
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Your link is broken. This is the correct link. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fauci-warn-surprise-outbreak/ Fauci said, “”I thought I would bring that perspective [of my experience in five administrations] to the topic today, [which] is the issue of pandemic preparedness. And if there’s one message that I want to leave with you today based on my experience … [it] is that there is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming [Trump] administration in the arena of infectious diseases … both chronic infectious diseases in the sense of already ongoing disease … but also there will be a surprise outbreak, and I hope by the end my relatively short presentation you will understand why history, the history of the last 32 years that I’ve been the director of the NAIAD, will tell the next administration that there’s no doubt in anyone’s mind that they will be faced with the challenges that their predecessors were faced with.”…Dr. Fauci did not literally warn in January 2017 that the Trump administration would certainly face a deadly pandemic affecting the U.S., but he said more generally (while speaking on the subject of pandemic preparedness) there was “no question” that a “surprise outbreak” of infectious disease would occur. The outgoing (Obama) administration had already faced multiple such events, including the 2009 swine flu (H1N1) pandemic, the 2015–2016 Zika virus epidemic, and the 2014-16 Ebola outbreak in West Africa… .”

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank you. For some reason the links are saying “verifying” then the comment doesn’t go through. I noticed it cut my link in half, but as you can see I posted the entire link.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Lots of sites down yesterday and Today.

BREAKING: YouTube joins the list of websites and apps currently experiencing issues

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1623479051758313472

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Chinese ballon? 🎈

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

What caused the Interwebs to break…
citizenfreepress.com/breaking/major-internet-outage/

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

I’ve been having trouble loading Kym’s articles today…

HotCoffee
Guest
HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

I had issues for a couple of hours yesterday, but not today.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

Gallup poll finds half of Americans are financially worse off than a year ago.
Joe Biden did that!

The Real Brian
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

It must be a not so secret race to spam up the Covid threads with as much propaganda as possible.

You’re leading the pack with 2 others.

Libertybiberty
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Libertybiberty
1 year ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Yeah, get real brian lol

elvis costanza
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elvis costanza
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Is there no topic on which you’re miserably misinformed?

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago

WARNING!! Read this if you own stocks…

ChatGPT Cousin Warns China Will Crash Stock Market After Valentine’s Day

Based on a unique algorithm used by artificial intelligence:

“The next stock market crash is expected to begin on February 15th, 2023. This date has been determined based on a number of factors, including the ongoing global economic slowdown, rising interest rates, and increasing geopolitical tensions,”

“Interestingly, the US Federal Reserve will release January’s Consumer Price Index (CPI) report on Feb 14. Will the valentines’ day numbers send the stock markets crashing? The coming week will show. “

https://coinchapter.com/chatgpt-warns-china-will-crash-stock-market/amp/

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

Disinformation researchers raise alarms about powerful capabilities of AI chatbots.

“This tool is going to be the most powerful tool for spreading misinformation that has ever been on the internet,” said Gordon Crovitz, a co-CEO of News Guard.

https://buffalonews.com/disinformation-researchers-raise-alarms-about-powerful-capabilities-of-ai-chatbots/article_1de96e00-44ca-52d3-8796-295691452b42.html

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Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

From your linked article:

“Sometimes, though, ChatGPT resisted researchers’ attempts to get it to generate misinformation and debunked falsehoods instead (this has led some conservative commentators to claim that the technology has a politically liberal bias, as have experiments in which ChatGPT refused to produce a poem about former President Donald Trump but generated glowing verses about President Biden).”

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

7 problems facing Bing, Bard, and the future of AI search
The “one true answer” question
Bullshit and bias are challenges in their own right, but they’re also exacerbated by the “one true answer” problem — the tendency for search engines to offer singular, apparently definitive answers. 

This has been an issue ever since Google started offering “snippets” more than a decade ago. These are the boxes that appear above search results and, in their time, have made all sorts of embarrassing and dangerous mistakes: from incorrectly naming US presidents as members of the KKK to advising that someone suffering from a seizure should be held down on the floor (the exact opposite of correct medical procedure).
The Verge

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Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Speaking of medical procedures, Daily wire asked chatgpt to define woman. As grey Fox accurately pointed out, its political views skew leftward.

“Multiple analyses have shown that ChatGPT does not hesitate to heap praise upon Democratic officials and offer justifications for progressive policies while refusing to do the same for Republicans and their preferred stances. National Review writer Nate Hochman asked ChatGPT about several ideas classified as supposed misinformation by fact-checkers and found that the system often echoed the establishment-sanctioned narrative; Reason contributor David Rozado found that ChatGPT scored toward the center-left on four different political compass quizzes.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/what-is-a-woman-heres-what-chatgpt-has-to-say

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

An estimated 27.3 million people tuned in to the president across major broadcasters and cable news networks, down nearly 28 percent from the 38.2 million people who witnessed Biden’s speech in 2022, the Nielsen company said.
Nearly three-quarters (73 percent) of viewers were 55 and older, Nielsen ratings data showed. Only five percent were young adults under age 35.
AP reports the only smaller audience since 1993 was the 26.9 million who watched Biden’s address to Congress in 2021 — not officially a State of the Union speech, since he had just taken office a few months earlier.

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fentertainment%2F2023%2F02%2F09%2Fbidens-state-of-the-union-draws-second-smallest-tv-audience-in-history%2F

The Real Brian
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Sweet boring politics.

Bringing it back.

The Greenes of the audience were trying to go hate-viral, but failed.

Thanks 2 of 3.

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It’s really elder abuse, the sad mumbling, bumbling, incoherent, gaffe ridden, VERY VERY old senile Joe Biden on public display, kept speaking and moving only because of pharmaceutical stimulants

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I think it might have been MGT on stimulants. She looked like she was at a WWE match. Pretty riled up.

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1 year ago
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I think it might have been AOC on stimulants. She looked like she was at a WWE match. Pretty riled up.

Fixed it for ya.

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Ok. Did you watch any of the speech? Or is this the standard QOP response. I didn’t see any pictures of AOC. But “Jewish space laser” lady sure was putting on a show for all her ReTrumplican base.

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She/They/Them/? was at the hearings.

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Try and follow. We were discussing the SOTU speech. You know normal or crazy. Hearings?

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“Pit Bull” Greene…

A classified briefing for House lawmakers on the Chinese spy balloon turned tense on Thursday when Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) went after administration officials for waiting days before shooting down the surveillance device.
“I had to wait in line the whole time. I was I think the second to last person, and I chewed them out just like the American people would’ve,” Greene told The Hill. “I tore ‘em to pieces.
The Hill~

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Why The US Government Is Warning Residents To Avoid Going To Mexico For Spring Break

Story by David • 3h ago

On the eve of one of the busiest times of the year for Mexican tourist destinations, the United States government has issued a stark warning to Americans planning to travel south of the border.

In an updated travel advisory released late last week, the U.S. State Department has now designated six Mexican states as places Americans should avoid, the highest warning level available.

“Do not travel” advisories apply to Guerrero, Colima, Michoacán, Sinaloa, Tamaulipas and Zacatecas, where travel could be “very dangerous” due to crime and kidnapping risks, according to the State Department.
The warning comes shortly before hundreds of thousands of Americans are expected to descend on popular spring break hotspots in Mexico, such as Puerto Vallarta and Cancun in the state of Quintana Roo.
“This warning applies to all travel, including tourist and business travel,” the State Department said.

more

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/why-the-us-government-is-warning-residents-to-avoid-going-to-mexico-for-spring-break/ar-AA17iDi3

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Spare the People, stop cluttering, head to Facebook… if yee hath friends.

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1 year ago
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Might want to avoid Florida also.
Most Dangerous Spring Break Destinations

1. Orlando, FL
2. Daytona Beach, FL

3. Las Vegas, NV

4. Myrtle Beach, SC

5. West Palm Beach, FL

6. South Padre Island, TX

7. New Orleans, LA

8. Panama City, FL

9. Jacksonville, FL

10. Miami, FL
Google-

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1 year ago

Pence Says Mother Will Not Give Him Permission to Testify.

WASHINGTON (—The special counsel investigating January 6th has received a letter from Mike Pence indicating that a person named Mother will not permit him to testify.
Mother, who is believed to be Pence’s wife, Karen, was “hopping mad” when he received a subpoena from the special counsel’s office, the letter revealed.
“When I told her I better go testify, Mother said, ‘Mike, are you some kind of idiot?’ ” the letter read. “ ‘What if you’re interrogated by a woman lawyer, and you’re alone in a room with her? Women are lawyers nowadays.’ ”
Pence recognized that refusing to testify could result in his being imprisoned, but added, “Mother said that as long as there are no women in the prison, she’s fine with that.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/pence-says-mother-will-not-give-him-permission-to-testify

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Obama economic guru says Biden economy prone to Wile E Coyote moment in 2023 (walk off a cliff)

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They’re booing the hell out of Biden at Lakers game…Posted by Kane on February 10, 2023

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/theyre-booing-the-hell-out-of-biden-at-lakers-game/

White House says Biden won’t do Super Bowl interview, blames Fox
LOL

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Please don’t link to that site again. You can post the address. Just remove the link by removing “https://” at the beginning.

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OK.
Any specific reason why?

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1 year ago
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Because it is not a fact checked site with credible information.

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1 year ago
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WATCH: Lakers fans boo President Joe Biden on jumbotron
basketballinsiders.com/news/
watch-lakers-fans-boo-president-joe-biden-on-jumbotron/
……………….
Don’t know if the fact-checkers like it, but it is true, and it’s in the news.

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Too funny. It’s like 4 people booing and the same Twitter feed view. Wow I’m really surprised some people don’t like Biden. WTH does that video have to do with anything.
Is it some big referendum for you RWNJ’s?

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1 year ago
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I read they are going to start selling hearing aides over the counter soon.
Most people don’t need one at a basketball game though.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Boo citizenfreepress
Boo Boo Boo
Your a terrible news site. We don’t like you. Please shut down. Run by senile old editors. Can’t tell truth from fiction. Most of the shit you print isn’t woth reading and panders to alt-right Fascists and Tea Party wackos. Boo

LOL Now that’s a link not a @… Boo 👻

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What’s wrong, it doesn’t promote communism?
🎻

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1 year ago
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Thought it was Anarachists of the Northwest you were worried about? 💣

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Both of your favs suck. Anarchists and Commies.
ANW and WSWS

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1 year ago
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The FBI is searching former Vice President Mike Pence’s Indiana home for classified materials, according to a source familiar with the matter as well as a Justice Department official. Both spoke on a condition on anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the matter.
NPR~
How do you like them apples? Boo Pence!

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Good, they should search Hunters houses also.
His wives and hookers houses too.

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Let’s go back to Mar-a-lago. After all that’s where the fun began.

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1 year ago
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I’d prefer to go back to Biden-Penn and all those CCP donations.
How many truckloads of docs did they find?

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Not as many as at Mar-a-lago, but nice try. Why did you stop answering on the SOTU speech?

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As pathetic as it was, I watched most of it, did you notice he has already reversed most of what he said. He kept the part about how great he is though.
Too Bad the voters don’t agree with him.

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80 million to 71 million. Keep crying Trumper.

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That was before people had two years to think it over.
Even most Dems can’t take any more of Mr. Magoo.

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“Not as many as at Mar-a-lago”
Totally misinformation.

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1 year ago

WASHINGTON — The acting director of the National Institutes of Health pushed back on Wednesday against Republicans’ assertions that a lab leak stemming from taxpayer-funded research may have caused the coronavirus pandemic, telling lawmakers that viruses being studied at a laboratory in Wuhan, China, bore no resemblance to the one that set off the worst public health crisis in a century.
Those viruses “bear no relationship to SARS-CoV-2; they are genetically distinct,” the N.I.H. official, Dr. Lawrence A. Tabak, told a House panel, using the formal name for the virus. He added that to suggest otherwise would be akin to “saying that a human is equivalent to a cow.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/us/politics/house-covid-lab-leak.html

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1 year ago

U.S. shoots down ‘high-altitude object’ over Alaskan airspace, White House says
The object was flying at 40,000 feet and “posed a reasonable threat to the safety of civilian flight,” National Security Council official John Kirby said. Biden ordered the military to shoot it down.
Google News~

Oh God! I hope it wasn’t Santa returning home from one of his toy factories in China..

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One thing for sure, Transparent Joe don’t want to answer NO Questions.
Not about documents, not about Hunter, and not about balloons.

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‘Most young people aren’t getting latest Covid-19 booster, but they’re not filling hospital beds at three large health care systems’

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/10/health/bivalent-covid-vaccine-younger-people/index.html

…”The updated booster helps protect against both the original strain of the coronavirus and more recent Omicron strains. It was particularly effective at reducing death rates in older people and less effective for younger people. For adults younger than 65, the bivalent booster offered at least three times better protection from death than just the original vaccine , but the difference in death rates was less than one in a million.”…
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This bears repeating…

…” the difference in death rates, [from getting the Bivalent Booster or not], was less than one in a million.”…

What is the mortality rate from the bivalent booster?

Is it greater or equal to 1 in one million?

It could be…

It sure doesn’t sound like it’s making much difference though…

No wonder almost no one is getting it…

How could the benefit be 3 times if the difference is less than one in a million…???

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Cont…

“How could the benefit be 3 times if the difference is less than one in a million…???”

< 0.5 in a million risk of death under 65, bivalent boosted vs. < 1.5 per million risk of death merely vaccinated with the original vaccines…???

If so… Risk vs gain is six of one half a dozen of the other, and could even reasonably favor not getting it, as far as risk is concerned…

It sounds like if you are under 65, trying to prevent your death from covid, by getting a bivalent booster, advantages you only less than one in a million, if you've been previously vaccinated…

Is it worth the risk?

Do the math…

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If the benefit against covid death is less than one in a million, for the under 65, what is the risk of death from a covid vaccination?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

…”from December 14, 2020, through February 1, 2023. During this time, VAERS received 19,115 preliminary reports of death (0.0029%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine”…

(29 in a million, overall…)

Even if you only consider that 1/29th true, for the under 65 crowd…

…there is less benefit than risk, of getting a bivalent booster… against death…🤷‍♂️

Seems pretty clear…

It would seem that the vast, overwhelming majority of Americans would agree…

Yet the Government keeps relentlessly pushing this shit, even for the young…

It’s shameless.

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It’s all national security and no true details will be revealed. And debris from the balloon in the Atlantic will stay a secret, with lies being told.
Funny how the first balloon couldn’t be shot down in Alaska even when our military tracked it from when it left China, but now Lisa Murcowski is pissed ?
I can smell the rot of fish very strongly tonight.

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1 year ago
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Have you brushed up on speaking Chinese? If Biden’s in office 2 more years, you’re going to need to be fluent.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Chinese funny people; when say “go,” mean “go.”
Charlie Chan~

我不会有事的
Wǒ bù huì yǒushì de

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Oh. Is that the next Repuglican talking point. The Chinese are going to take over in the next 2 years. Oh the horror. We better stage a coup and appoint the fat orange Cheeto back into power or we are all doomed. Trumpism is a mental disorder.

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Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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@tracybeanz

New thread

twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1623874990666817536

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1 year ago
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tracybeanz: noted Qanon hustler

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1 year ago
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I wouldn’t know, I consider QAnon the equivalent of Dungeons & Dragons and haven’t followed either game. I prefer chess.
The left sure seems to take it seriously, though.

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You well know. You do.

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1 year ago
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I well know I don’t. You seem to though.
You and your friend are the only one’s here talking QAnon.
NaDa from anyone else, Hmm

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1 year ago
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“If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.”

Sun Tzu~

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She’s been top ‘o the qheap, her claim to gain actually. Scary, right up there with Mike Flynn scary.

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-qanon-cyber-idUKL1N2HD00Z

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1 year ago
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Of course, Mike Flynn scares you, He knows where the bodies are buried. That’s why the Dems took him down first.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Which is what a Q person would say.

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The Real Brian
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1 year ago
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Some right leaning calendars go from Jan 5 and skip to Jan 7.

Now, their alphabet goes from P to R.

Plausible deniability.

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New thread. Please enlighten us on this “new thread”. Some RWNJ conspiracy theory I’m sure. Does it scare you into believing the Chinese are going to take over America in 2 years. Maybe Lakers fans are booing President Biden. What is it? Inquiring minds want to know?

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1 year ago

Lawmakers and labor unions are working to amend a longtime bill that would establish a single-payer health care system in New York as budget talks get under way.

Legislation nicknamed the New York Health Act would create a universal health care system and cover all primary, preventive and specialized medical care for all New Yorkers, regardless of immigration status.

The system would be funded through an income-based graduated tax based on a person’s ability to pay.

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/politics/2023/02/10/lawmakers–labor-unions-negotiating-single-payer-health-care-bill

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Taxpayers have left New York and California, that’s why Gavin is trying to stick tax claws into businesses that have left or are leaving.
No way it will stand up in court, the state can’t force a company or person to pay taxes to a State they don’t reside in.
If the Warriors moved to Nevada, you think Gavin can still tax them?
And no new businesses would do a start-up in a state under those conditions.
Gavin’s laws has spent Ca. into a deficit.

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California has seen a slight dip since 2005, but still sees something like 4,000 businesses begin operating monthly.

Texas and Florida, by contrast of other very populous states that seen as very business friendly, both had around 2000 monthly openings when the last results were collected by the census pre pandemic and both are now projected to have risen to between 3000 and 3500.

So despite California’s allegedly anti business policies it seems to be plenty inviting to actual business owners.

New York is around 2000 per month.

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1 year ago
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https://www.census.gov/econ/bfs/visualizations/interactivegraphs.html

There’s the site I was pulling data from. Some fun visualization tools if anyone wants to explore more.

My napkin math tells me Florida probably has the highest rate of openings with around 15 per million residents monthly while California has more like 10 per million residents and Texas has around 6 per million residents. New York may be in between ca andTX, possibly closer to CA

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1 year ago

Gavin just proposed this law, it hasn’t been approved yet.
It will make a difference if it is approved.

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1 year ago
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Maybe it will. Anti California commenters have, for years, insisted that California’s regulatory environment is hostile to business and driving it away. You yourself just said, “taxpayers have left…” leaving out that they have also arrived but implying that California has a regulatory environment that is causing net harm to the states economy.

What I’m saying, and what federal census data shows, is that that is not true. California’s climate remains attractive to new business startups at a level as high as any comparable state.

I’ve got plenty of gripes about the way the state is run, but the constant doomer hyperbole from the right is just blatantly false. Having traveled extensively in the states, California remains one of the nicest places in the country.

People who don’t like the culture or politics should absolutely seek another part of the country more in alignment with their values. That’s the beauty of a federated republic. But pretending that California is somehow on the verge of collapse or is home to some sort of uniquely California or uniquely democratic problems is just silly.

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1 year ago

Every Company Leaving California: 2020-2023
https://buildremote.co/companies/companies-leaving-california/

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1 year ago
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That link claims that up to a couple hundred businesses leave the state every year. while 4,000 start in state every month. Just skimming their list they also listed a company that I’m very familiar with (Marrone Bioinnovations) as moving to North Carolina when the reality is the company sold to a NC based competitor and will continue to operate their R&D facility in Davis and their existing manufacturing in Michigan. So color me a bit skeptical at their diligence.
No doubt that large, multinational, companies will constantly seek to minimize their costs anyway they can. This is the mechanism that destroyed the american manufacturing base. Should we have debased our work force in the ways that China, Vietnam, Mexico, and Bangladesh do to keep those manufacturing jobs? Should California aspire to the heights of such places as Texas, Florida, and Ohio in pursuit of soulless corporate fealty?
I’m not convinced that bowing to the demands of greedy corporations is a recipe for prosperity.

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We are NOT at war with Russia.

We only fomented a coup in Ukraine
$100+ billion in “aid” to Ukraine
Coordinating attacks on Russian targets
Sanctions on Russia
Delivered advanced missile systems
Sending heavy tanks
Blew up the Nordstream pipelines

But we are totally NOT at war!
@LPCO

Anything in the list not accepted by everyone as true?

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Blew up the Nordstream pipelines
Totally unproven…
And no the article in The Daily Mail does not prove anything..Except you read supermarket tabloids.
“Claim That US Blew up Nordstream Pipelines Relies on Anonymous Source”
“Seymour Hersh presents factual background material, but his case for conspiracy is held together by a seemingly omnipotent anonymous source.
His later work, has been controversial and widely panned by journalists for promoting conspiratorial claims that hinge on dubious anonymous sources or speculation.
Snopes-

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Seymour Hersh- Pulitzer Prize winner for investigative journalism

“The eyes are useless when the mind is blind”

~Mark Venturini

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What About Snopes Partnership with Facebook?As one of the most popular fact-checking websites, Snopes is perfectly positioned to debunk the rampant spread of fake news throughout Facebook. In 2017, Snopes partnered with Facebook to fact check for the social network, receiving $100,000 for their fact-checking work in the first year, and $406,000 in the second year.
However, in early 2019, Snopes announced it would no longer work with Facebook. At the same time, the Associated Press also announced it would no longer fact check on the Facebook site, either.
Snopes split from Facebook so it could “determine with certainty that our efforts to aid any particular platform are a net positive for our online community, publication, and staff.”
Furthermore, David Mikkelson, and Snopes head of operations, Vinny Green, said that Snopes “have not ruled out working with Facebook or any other platforms in the future.”
Snopes Ended the Facebook PartnershipThe Guardian later reported that the partnership ended due to pressure from the Snopes editorial team.
Brooke Binkowski, former managing editor of Snopes said,

“They’ve essentially used us for crisis PR. They’re not taking anything seriously. They are more interested in making themselves look good and passing the buck… They clearly don’t care.”

Another Snopes content editor, Kim LaCapria, left the fact-checking site in part due to frustrations with the Facebook partnership. As LaCapria states, Facebook wanted the “appearance of trying to prevent damage without actually doing anything.”
Although Snopes maintains that all editorial staff remains separate from the commercial side of the businesses, Binkowski said that she believes Facebook pushed Snopes to prioritize debunking stories regarding Facebook advertisers over other misinformation.
So, what do you take from all of this?
……………………………………………………………
Who’s Snopes working for now? And How much are they being paid?

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You take a story about how Snopes left Facebook because they didn’t prioritize money over facts and come up with those final questions? What’s next taking a story about how a man rescued a child from slavers and asking “Who will he sell to slavery now? And how much will he get paid? “

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1 year ago
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I disagree with your analogy.
Fact-checkers are there to make money like every other business.
In the article, they reserved the right to accept funding from Facebook again.
I think those are legitimate questions regarding all fact-checkers.
The comparison to slavery is offensive on more than one level. Are you trying to equate my questions to racism? Because I don’t see the link.

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Partisan leftist “fact checkers” are just part of the larger disinformation organization encompassing biased leftist “experts”, government, and media. If they were honest and truthful than why do they fear and attempt to censor opposition viewpoints?

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I agree. I think I touched a nerve, and received a rather extreme response.

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1 year ago
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Yes…reading someone twisting the facts in such an ugly way to fit their belief system makes me momentarily wonder if there is any hope for this world.

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1 year ago
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You don’t state what facts were twisted. You judged the article but presented no reference.
Then you told me how you feel.
That’s fine, but the reference to slaves was a bit much.
Fact, fact-checkers get paid for supporting their donor’s advertising, I’m sorry if that bothers you.
I think what was ugly was the analogy you used,
Nothing in the article or my questions had anything to do with slaves, that input was all yours.

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1 year ago
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They are not censoring anything. They are just setting the facts straight. Don’t tell lies or spread misinformation.

Works for both sides of the aisle.

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This. The new frontier in rightwing spin: get accurately called out for BS then say the call-out itself is an extension of the left wing con on America. You people are too much, beyond Hollywood, two planets past Trumpworld, a moon beyond even Kellyanne.

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Currently ________ uses an overflow strategy… There is an incredibly high quantity of messaging … This approach relies on sheer quantity to be effective, as the information itself is not often believable or near the truth. It is difficult to catch and respond to all individual issues when fact checkers and international organizations are inundated with thousands of offenses.
— excerpt, on ongoing Kremlin messaging campaign, McCain Institute.

Just plug your screen name onto above underline and … ta-da! Take a Twitter or whatever from whatever source, add own end line, maybe put question mark at the end of that, maybe throw a meme on from some scuzzy source or another. Over and over and over again on rhbb. Oh, don’t forget to imply Putin is some kinda victim getting screwed by NATO. If not on the books already, Vlad is surely hiring.

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1 year ago
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You are awesome 💪

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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Oh for heaven’s sakes…no, I don’t see it as racist. Just wildly weird. Fact checkers are there to make money but they chose to lose a big account because of their worries that they were being asked to do something wrong…And you use that as evidence that they are likely to do something wrong again…

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Literally, you are using their morality against them………………..That is another stunningly awful example of twisting evidence to fit your belief system.

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You believe they did it out of morality, I’m not convinced. Hence, the questions I asked at the end.
It’s not like companies don’t distance themselves from a nefarious act if they think they close to being caught.
The fact they reserved the right to reconnect set off alarms. If there’s something wrong, why would you say ahead of time you might reconnect?
And I really don’t know why you got so emotionally involved in it.

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“You believe they did it out of morality, I’m not convinced.”
Then offer some sort of minimal evidence that they didn’t! Don’t just segue into a wild theory without showing something that could be at least a whiff of proof. They gave up money that they didn’t have to which is a heavy weight on the side of they did it for moral reasons or at the very least reputation reasons. (At least in this comment you offer some thin thread of reasoning but in the previous comment, you didn’t even offer that. You made a bold defamatory statement without a shred of evidence to back you up–as if everyone should just believe you because it is self-evident.

“The fact they reserved the right to reconnect set off alarms.”
Facebook is a big account. If they could get their concerns answered, of course, they are going to want to reestablish the relationship.

“And I really don’t know why you got so emotionally involved in it.”

It’s exhausting to read conspiracy theories taken to the outer limits of fantasy multiple times every day. Sometimes one comment is just the straw that breaks the camel’s back and makes me despair and I cry out to the heaven’s (or the internet) in my agony.

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I chose Snopes due to gf harassing people over every link they post, and he had just used that one. He also uses your every reprimand to give to shove in peoples faces, but I’m sure you know that.
I realize you use and like Snopes,
You’ve stated you voted for Bernie, That leads me to suspect you are much more lenient toward gf socialist and communist links and quite picky with mine. If they were so bad I would think your several checkers would stop my posts.
And Slavery had nothing to do with anything , so why bring it up?

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HC, It isn’t harassment to argue with you. You don’t get to put out statements on a public website that is known for free speech and expect no one will challenge you. And, if someone refutes your argument using Snopes, you probably ought to at the least rethink your argument. Snopes is a respected fact checking site. They don’t get everything right but they do a damn good job. And, no, they are not a socialist or communist site.

I tell people how I vote and what my opinions are just so that they can do like you do and make value judgements on my decisions. That said—you have gotten much better but…your links are often…crap. You don’t have to agree with me but, my job is to research information, my education was began with a goal of being an attorney, and I eventually became a teacher that taught elementary and junior high kids how to evaluate websites for value. You, of course, don’t have to agree with me. But it ought to trouble you that in general I’m not that picky. I allow all sorts of sites that are only moderately good at reporting facts. So when I disallow a site, it is almost always one that multiple respected organizations have dismissed as having poor records for fact checking.

As to “your several checkers”…I don’t know what you are talking about. This site is ran almost exclusively by me. WordPress appears to have some minimal stops on the worst things that people link to but other than that, it is basically me trying to grapple with hundreds of comments a day while still having time to do all the other things that make this website useful. I don’t have time to check everything. (for less than 20 hours a week I have some help with the comment section but the rules are made by me.)

“And Slavery had nothing to do with anything , so why bring it up?” oh, boy…I think we’ve had this discussion about using analogies before and you don’t seem to grasp them. I’ll try to refrain from using them with you in the future. Slavery was absolutely not the point. The point was that someone did something that appears to be for good and without any opposing evidence, you “decide” that it is bad. And that’s just not the way logic works. You are supposed to offer evidence. Not pluck stuff out of the air and make declarations the exact opposite of all the evidence offered without any explanation for why you are doing so.

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You…
“The point was that someone did something that appears to be for good and without any opposing evidence, you “decide” that it is bad.”

Me………

This was my only comment on the article, seems to me, I suggested anyone interested make their own judgement.

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So, what do you take from all of this?
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Who’s Snopes working for now? And How much are they being paid?
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You…

“And that’s just not the way logic works. You are supposed to offer evidence.You are supposed to offer evidence. Not pluck stuff out of the air and make declarations the exact opposite of all the evidence offered without any explanation for why you are doing so. ”

Me…….
Is this a new, new rule? Do you require this from all posters?
I thought the article produced enough evidence for anyone interested to follow up on the subject.
I didn’t know if there would be any interest at all. I’m not a mind reader.

With that said, I’m done.
I rather expect I’ll be accused of creating “drama” if I continue.

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I wouldn’t put much faith in the claimed reasons for snopes leaving the partnership. That same article quotes heavily from a woman, Brooke Binkowski, who claims snopes terminated her without cause and without explanation and that their operations are opaque even to employees.

The linked article about her dismissal highlights some very, let’s say, sloppy at best disclosure around over a million dollars raised in crowdsourcing for legal fees over a company ownership dispute.

Snopes is the height of dismissive non rebuttals masquerading as “fact checks”. I’ve read enough of their claimed debunking efforts that amount to little more than just saying something isn’t true (without providing any evidence) that I can’t take their opinion seriously anymore.

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Cont…

“Over the last year, journalists also increasingly raised ethical concerns about accepting money from the scandal-scarred company. Some critics said the financial arrangement compromised newsrooms that report on Facebook.

“This all could have been avoided if they had not taken money from Facebook to begin with,” Brooke Binkowski, former managing editor of Snopes, told the Guardian on Friday. Binkowski has long been outspoken against the partnership and while at Snopes advocated against it. Facebook paid Snopes $100,000 in 2017.

“It was a huge conflict of interest,” Binkowski said, adding: “You cannot speak truth to power if you’re being paid directly by power … We cannot pressure Facebook for transparency if we’re their employees.” ”

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The amount of money snopes received in 2018 from Facebook quadrupled from 2017…

Why was that?

Incentive?

Maybe Snopes left Facebook in 2019 because Facebook was not willing to quadruple Snopes’ pay again…

Maybe they stayed with Facebook in 2018 only because Facebook quadrupled Snopes’ compensation?

Was the reason that Snopes indicated that they were open to a future that included working with Facebook again, because they were just holding out for a higher annual dollar amount?

That could be one explanation.

Nobody is beyond reproach, not even the almighty Snopes.

Just because you can trust someone at one point in time, doesn’t mean they will always be trustworthy.

“June 2021 Independent Review: Snopes Moved to Lean Left
AllSides moved Snopes’ rating to Lean Left following a June 2021 independent review by AllSides editors on the left, center and right. It was previously rated Center.

We reviewed the numerous instances of Snopes’ left-wing bias that we found during our June 2020 Editorial Review, such as slant. We also noted a number of times that Snopes had recently interpreted things in favor of the left, including when it “fact checked” a subjective opinion on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), when it defended Gov. Andrew Cuomo by saying an accurate tweet about him was “Mostly False,” and when it “fact-checked” satire from humor website The Babylon Bee (an entry Snopes then had to edit following criticism).

AllSides noted that Snopes’ story choice is generally favorable to the left, and it lacks fact checks on subjects that speak to a conservative or more right-wing audience. Its collections page also showed left bias, with the first page still predominantly highlighting Trump.

“At the time, AllSides also noted that RealClearPolitics’ Fact Check Review found that 89% of Snopes articles from January 27, 2021 to June 26, 2021 used at least one media source as verification for its claims, rather than using original sources. The percentage “captures how many claims by [the] fact checker relied at least in part on media reporting as “truth” for its verification task,” RCP writes. “When fact checkers rely on media for verification, this creates a cycle in which media cite fact checkers which in turn cite media. Ideally, fact checking should involve primary source verification, rather than relying on secondary news reporting as verification.”

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1 year ago
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That is evidence that I wish had been offered by HC in the first place. When making a sweeping claim contradicting the information that is posted, then add some points providing backup for your claim.
Even flimsy speculation like “Maybe Snopes left Facebook in 2019 because Facebook was not willing to quadruple Snopes’ pay again…Maybe they stayed with Facebook in 2018 only because Facebook quadrupled Snopes’ compensation?” is better than nothing at all.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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All this stems from me using Snopes to fact check the squirrels Nordstream claim.

Bottom line
Every thing they said about the issue is true and verifiable.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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LOL and Guest using a fact checker to fact check Snopes..I will have to see what Snopes has to say about Allsides

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1 year ago
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Actually, all this stems from my belief that fact-checkers are just as opinionated as the people they cater too, be they left or right and people should actually consider that fact.
“Bottom line
Every thing they said about the issue is true and verifiable.”
But you provide no verification.
Now, if I said that, Ms K would require I provide evidence.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Bottom line…

Re-read my post. Links are there.
To answer your Ms Kemp issue. She actually read the post and saw the links.

PS: actual links not @

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“Flimsy speculation”… LOL.

“Snopes is a respected fact checking site. They don’t get everything right but they do a damn good job.”

What has convinced you that Snopes is so ethical and dependably accurate?

It is certainly very questionable…

I googled… “Is Snopes ethical”…

The overall consensus seems to be “no”…..

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/13/business/media/snopes-plagiarism-David-Mikkelson.html

https://ethicsalarms.com/2021/08/14/what-snopes-has-had-and-unethical-culture-all-these-years/

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Bottom line.

Is what they said about the Nordstream issue true? Yes.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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And using the retracted articles issue from 2021?

Sounds pretty ethical that they investigated the issue and did something about it.

And you using The NY Times as a source is a laugh. Usually it’s people bringing their ethics into question.

Which brings up people using sources as long as it fits their agenda.

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Interesting….
Don’t link to a site Ms K doesn’t like unless you alter it, but if you link to a site the left likes, you’re “using sources as long as it fits their agenda.”
Must be nice to have it both ways.

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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To be clear again……………And I’m starting to get tired of repeating this to you. The Wall Street Journal, The Air Force Times, Christianity Today and other conservative sites are wonderful sites to link to.
Liberal sites like Wonkette and the Palmer Report are not acceptable.
Credible sources fact check, use experts as sources, and correct their work if they get something wrong.
Non-credible sources use loaded language, opinions, non-expert sources, and are not transparent if they get something wrong.
I really really can’t stress this enough. If you don’t trust me, then you should not be reading my news. Life is too short to waste your time reading crap.

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1 year ago
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I really wish you would stop taking my comments to gf’s nonsense and applying it to yourself.
What I post to him is directed at him, not to you.
Clearly, you & I have different opinions of who “experts” are. Seems you want me to deep dive into your respected fact-checkers before every post.
Give me a break, will ya?

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Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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A public forum is not a private conversation. Any person can read you and any person can respond.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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You brought her name into the conversation. What did you expect?

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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The International Fact-Checking Network approved Snopes. The IFCN has a code that it checks the fact-checkers against. If an organization meets the criteria it certifies them for one year. They then have to be reevaluated annually.

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From your IFCN “source”…

‘SNOPES’ happens to be an “unverified signatory”…..

“Verified signatories will be evaluated on the basis of their respect of the five principles through the process linked above at the date of application. Only organizations in the first list below have been verified. No further endorsement of their work should be presumed.

The effectiveness of this system in upholding signatories’ standards will be kept under review.

Verified signatories

Africa Check (South Africa, Kenya, Nigeria and Senegal | Mar 8 2017 | application | assessment)
FactCheck Georgia (Georgia | Mar 8 2017 | application and assessment)
The Conversation FactCheck (Australia | Mar 8 2017 | application | assessment)
The Washington Post Fact Checker (USA | Mar 8 2017 | application | assessment)

Unverified signatories…

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Snopes

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🤷‍♂️

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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You are right. I should have caught that. Thank you.
However, a number of university libraries such as Penn State–https://guides.libraries.psu.edu/c.php?g=611516&p=4332410 and Harvard https://guides.library.harvard.edu/fake recommend the site for fact checking.

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1 year ago
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Here is Biden PROMISING to “BRING AN END TO” the nordstream 2 pipeline, in no uncertain terms, if Russia invaded Ukraine…

https://youtu.be/OS4O8rGRLf8

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I have not made up my mind one way or the other about the Nord Stream explosions. The evidence I’ve seen presented so far is not solid enough to make a decision.

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You don’t factor in Biden’s threats to “Bring it to an end” at all…???

Hmmm…

It seems to me like an internationally declared threat by Biden, would make him the primary suspect…

Would it not…???

In fact, Snopes actually references Biden’s threat, in their “rebuttal”…

Talk about flimsy speculation… LOL…

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/10/hersh-nord-stream-sabotage/

“Finally, it is true that senior government officials in and outside the Biden administration explicitly stated their support for “ending” in some way the operation of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. On Feb. 7, a week before the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, Biden told reporters that, “If Russia invades … there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” “

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When one accuses someone of something, one can’t convict them on one statement. It is a piece of evidence. It is not a definitive piece. I could say that if a nurse is killed, that you have said that nurses murdered people and a friend of yours was treated badly so therefore you are angry at them and have a motive to kill them and thus you did kill that nurse. That would be wild speculation. Just as using that statement of Biden’s as definitive proof is pretty wild. (Please tell me that you understand analogies and in no way think that I think you are killing nurses)

People can have motive and even add opportunity into that and still not be the killer. One needs a large amount of evidence to convict. And the same holds true in the case of Nord Stream.

That said. Biden’s statement is a piece of evidence and honest people should be aware that the US’s involvement is not impossible.

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1 year ago
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I understand analogy, but your analogy is extremely inappropriate, AFAIAC, with all due respect, in what it very falsely suggests…

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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Oh for heaven’s sake. I was very clear that it does not suggest that you would kill a nurse.

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
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Here, let me restate the analogy so you can not in any way take offense. I could say that I am in a disagreement with Person X. Person X is murdered. While I have the motive and may even have had the opportunity, it is not definitive proof that I killed them.

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A better analogy to Biden’s comment is if you said you were going to kill someone and they ended up dead, you’d be top of suspect list just as CIA justifiably is in the Nordstream sabotage. Of course the perpetrator of such a crime would deny involvement but seems competent journalists could definitively verify or refute the extremely detailed account of Seymour Hersh’s expose with a little effort. Have you read his article?

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Biden said he would make sure that the Nord Stream 2 project ended if Russia invaded Ukraine or caused problems there. Russia recognized break away republics in Ukraine. Our ally, Germany, then ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project last year. I think Biden made good on his threat. BUT again, I am not saying the US did not have something to do with the explosions, I’m simply saying there is not enough evidence–only one reporter whose work has not been duplicated…and that will take time to either refute or support his allegations.

grey fox
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And people keep ignoring the fact that his source is one person with nothing else to back it up.

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👍

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Sorry, I hold a POTUS words to a higher standard than just any ole body speaking off the cuff on the street.
A POTUS speaks for the entire Country for all other Countries to notice.
Just as Victoria Nulands words have done since 2014.
People have plenty of reason to be concerned about our role in the Ukrainian situation.
Just my opinion.

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There are only two options…

Biden was lying then…

Or…

Biden is lying now…

Pretty damn obvious…

Take your pick…

grey fox
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1 year ago
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He was referring to Nordstream 2 which was US sanctioned and non-operational.
Nordstream 1 was the one blown up.

Russia confirmed that pipe B of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline remains operable and that delivery of gas to Europe through Nord Stream 2 is possible.

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Any link to it being non-operational?

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Try the Russian embassy or Wiki.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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And for this operation to be carried out by the US, hundreds of people and several other Countries would have had to sign off on it

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March 11, 2022

We are going to be sending massive amounts of military hardware and financial support into Ukraine, to support the Ukraine ‘rebels’, and Qatar will work as the U.S/NATO broker for the equipment sales.  This is what Brotherhood organizer John McCain called the “Libyan model.”
Additionally, the always annoying position of Turkey as a NATO partner is going to become more important as the old alliance gets back into operational mode. Turkish President Recep Erdogan will have a role to play in this; keep watching and we should see Turkey appear in more headlines as the conflict within Ukraine continues.
Let’s take the 2011 “Libya Model” playbook and give a refresh to the new 2022 players for Ukraine:

  • President Obama replaced by Joe Biden
  • Secretary of State Clinton replaced by Secretary Antony Blinken
  • CIA Director Leon Panetta is now Director Bill Burns
  • Defense Secretary Robert Gates is now Secretary Lloyd Austin
  • Senator John McCain is now Senator Lindsey Graham
  • NATO Commander General Stavridis is now General Philippe Lavigne
  • Victoria Nuland, John Kerry, Susan Rice and Samantha Powers remain/return as they are.

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Ukraine is the new proxy war geography, replacing Libya

  • The key geopolitical alliance members on Team NATO will be the U.S., Canada, U.K, Turkey, Australia, New Zealand and Qatar
  • The key geopolitical alliance members on Team Putin will be Russia, China, Iran and Syria.

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Support for new Biden alliance between The Brotherhood and NATO will be a little complex, as Iran is pro-brotherhood and also pro-Putin.

More @

theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/11/history-rhyming-biden-administration-constructs-familiar-war-plan-using-qatar-as-long-term-mechanism-to-fund-protracted-war-in-ukraine/#more-229751

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Small intellectual response.
What exactly are you refuting?

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1 year ago
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You should listen to what was said in the video you posted and not draw a conclusion unsupported by what was actually said.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Don’t spoil it for them. They are hoping so much this is true.
You would think they are on Russia’s side.

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Some people still believe CNN (and their ilk) reporting too despite widespread proven disinformation from them

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1 year ago

Here it comes, the citing of something being off vs. volumes of stuff from manufactured erroneous on up to utter hogwash. The greatest hits include: government is out to get you, the groomers out to poke your children, the Dems are commies, fauci’s ukraine bio lab program, 10% for Joe, human caused climate change isn’t real, just on and on it goes. The spreaders got winnowed out of big media for a reason, but then one thing out of a thousand was shown to be suspect and the fox and alt media folk are off and running once again bleating they are victims of some corporate-government-commie machine.

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1 year ago
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I appreciate that you’ve drawn inspiration from Sonny B’s scat jazz comment style. It reminds me of Robert Anton Wilson’s work inserting randomly generated sentences into otherwise coherent texts.

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1 year ago

Your folks are on right side of Hx, trust them.

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No bro! Your are totally right:) thank you for owning the others?!

You are so good at this. I would like to congratulate you for contributing absolutely nothing to the dialog and just attacking a couple of commenters here.

Must make you feel awesome. That is so fucking rad. Keep up the good work bud

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Thanks!

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That’s what I’m talking about about. The nonsequitur that could be the product of a random word generator. You should read R.A. Wilson’s “Quantum Psychology” if you haven’t.

Although, as I said, your comment style gives me the impression you’re drawing inspiration from him already.

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1 year ago
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This one.
But we are totally NOT at war!

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1 year ago
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A coup in Ukraine? BS. They could have voted themselves back into the Russian Federation at any time. Who would stop them? Do you see hordes of people thronging the Russian border to get a piece of that action?
the Modern Republican Party loves Trump who loves Putin (genius!) so you traitors are rooting for Putin. MRP loves the hooligans who attacked the United States (just another tourist day).
anything wrong here or did you miss the videos?
the MRP hates democracy and wants Orban Renewal where State Republicans can just throw out unfortunate elections. ( hey, Kari, poor baby)

Giant Squirrel
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1 year ago

You’ve seen 2014 transcript of Nuland coup call?

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Don’t try to oversimplify and create anti-US sentiment. Russia intercepted and leaked Nuland’s call. Obvious as to why: vast majority of Ukrainian people wanted EU association but President Yanukovich was pro-Russia, Putin liked and backed him. Everyone knows the EU was hooked on Russian oil and gas, hostage to Putin, scared of Putin, who wants EU members to be scared and infight. Why Nuland said F the EU. Now we know the truth, the EU knows the truth, the EU knows the US was correct. EU is still scared of Russia, but not as scared. Ukraine wants association with EU and US more than ever. Putin stepped in it. Putin wanted Trump, not Clinton. Obvious as to why. And Xi would already be in Taiwan if not for US and EU pushing back on Putin.

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1 year ago
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So now you admit there was a US engineered 2014 coup in Ukraine but claim good reason?

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Somebody train you, I wonder. Instant response on issue seemingly closest to your heart. Interesting.

Fact: Under pressure from Putin, in late 2013 Yanukovych failed at last minute to sign an agreement with the EU. His failure to do so led to Ukrainian people revolting against him, the Revolution of Dignity following the Maiden protests.

Fact: in Feb 2014 the Ukrainian Parliament voted 328 to 0 (ZERO) to remove Yanukovych. He then asked … Putin for help. What does Putin do? He calls it a coup.

Screen name, big furry mammal. Hmm, cozy bear comes to mind, russo.

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1 year ago

“Judicial Watch uncovered that Hunter Biden traveled to China at least five times on Air Force 2 with Joe Biden. On one of those visits Joe and Hunter were involved in a meeting together with one of Hunter’s business associates,” @TomFitton.
READ: https://t.co/HJ5Pma6V5O https://t.co/MhStiu8vbT
Long flights to claim never talked with Hunter about his business deals.
10% for the Big Guy buys a balloon tour of America’s nuclear deterrent facilities!

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1 year ago

The State of the Union was delivered this week by the president of the United States, a doddering old wreck sinking into oblivion through a fog of lies and self-delusion, which by some strange coincidence, is also the state of the union. https://t.co/eBGUNCBLYI
Nice concise synopsis

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Another tweet by a Twitter twit….

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Missile Explodes Over The Skies Of Romania
The Balkan has received eyewitness reports from trusted sources that a missile exploded today over the skies of Romania near a military base outside of Cluj-Napoca in the northwestern part of the country. The explosion shook buildings in nearby Florești. Eyewitnesses report that the missile came from the northwest, in the direction of Poland. No damage has been reported and Romania officially denies any incident took place, but something is clearly amiss.
Earlier today, Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces, told Ukrainian Pravda that “Two Russian Kalibr cruise missiles crossed the state border of Ukraine and the Republic of Moldova on 10 February at 10:18. At approximately 10:33, these missiles crossed into Romanian air space. After this, the said air targets re-entered Ukrainian airspace where the borders of the three states meet. At the moment, this target is being monitored, and measures to shoot it down are also being taken. The missile was launched from the Black Sea.”

Volodymir Zelensky then claimed that the rockets represented, “a provocation for NATO and its collective security.” Ukrainian officials added that they had the ability to shoot down the missiles but did not do so because they did not want to endanger civilians in the neighboring countries.
Kiev was clearly engaged in a disinformation campaign to try to prop up fading support for the Zelensky regime. The Ukrainian claims, however, were quickly debunked. “At this moment, we have no indications of a military threat by Russia against Romania or the Republic of Moldova.” Vedant Patel, a U.S. State Department Spokesman.

more @

armedforces.press/2023/02/11/missile-explodes-over-the-skies-of-romania/

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1 year ago
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It’s been coined “the state of denial address”

HotCoffee
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1 year ago
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Perfect description.

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America 2023: Sleepwalking into World War III
February 11, 2023
China and Russia are both in full-on war mode, mobilizing their economies, their armies and navies for World War III with America.

Notice I said “America.” Not “NATO.” NATO is America and America is NATO along with its vassal states.
NATO has always been built upon American power. The problem is America has lost its power and any that remains is largely about perception, not reality.
Once the world figures this out, it’s game over. Once they see that the Emperor has no clothes, that it’s all smoke and mirrors — and the balloon incident has started to open people’s eyes — they will be shocked at how weak America actually is.
This degrading of American power was facilitated by ideological traitors (communists posing as Democrats) and greed-based traitors (Republicans posing as crusaders for “free trade” and the global “free market”). They have hollowed out this country’s manufacturing base, making us dependent on a hostile foreign power, China, while profiting greatly from their partnerships with “Chinese businesses,” without explaining to the American people that to be a viable Chinese “business” you must march to the dictates of the Chinese Communist Party. When you boil it down, basically every Chinese business that our American globalist friends are involved with is part of the Chinese Communist Party controlled state-corporate superstructure.

More

leohohmann.com/2023/02/11/america-2023-sleepwalking-into-world-war-iii/

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NORAD detects another “High Altitude Object” over Canada.
Breaking News……. FOX
Interesting that Canada isn’t saying anything.

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1 year ago
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US F-22 just shot it down over Canada.
FOX News

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1 year ago
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People’s opinions are mainly designed to make them feel comfortable; truth, for most people is a secondary consideration.

~Bertrand Russell

grey fox
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1 year ago

Young people are more likely to die of heart attacks post-COVID, study finds. But why?A recent study found that heart attacks in people ages 25 to 44 increased by 30% compared to the expected number over the first two years of the COVID-19 pandemic.

For COVID-19 survivors, the risk of developing a heart condition even a year after the infection, regardless of how severe the initial symptoms were, is “substantial,” according to a February 2022 study of more than 150,000 individuals with COVID-19. The risk increases even for people who don’t have any other risk factors for heart disease.
https://www.today.com/health/covid-heart-attack-young-people-rcna69903

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1 year ago
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Has Coffee mentioned that Bill Clinton was subpoenaed to testify against Hillary?

Oh woops, no that was on Squirrels Twitter thread….

I meant did Coffee mention that Pence was subpoenaed to testify against Trump re J6?

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1 year ago
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Is there anyone in the Trump administration the Dems haven’t subpoenaed?
Unless the R after their name stands for RINO like Cheney, Romney etc. They either have been or will be subpoenaed.

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1 year ago
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What’s their vax status?

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1 year ago

Just in time for Gov. Gavin Newsom’s long-awaited end to his Covid emergency powers February 28th, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced on Thursday updated recommendations to childhood immunization schedules, including the addition of COVID-19 shots and boosters for babies and children ages 6 months to 18 years.
Will California’s vaccine policy mean “recommended” or “mandated” Covid vaccines for children as young as 6 months, or to attend school?
As Gov. Newsom finally ends California’s Covid State of Emergency, three years after his original declaration and executive order March 3, 2020, the CDC steps in with Covid vaccine mandates.

californiaglobe.com/articles/cdc-adds-covid-19-vaccine-to-routine-childhood-immunization-schedule/

I’ll just assume any links that aren’t wokey content will be neutered and remove the https// since there’s no list to refer to.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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No, California children will not be mandated to be vaccinated for Covid before entering school as has been posted on here earlier.
https://krcrtv.com/amp/news/local/california-will-no-longer-require-covid-vaccine-for-k-12-students

That’s OK. As we get older we tend to forget things.

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1 year ago
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Your link to a TV station on Monday, February 6th 2023
Or my statement from the CDC.
Hmm……….

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Your CDC info is a recommendation not a mandate.

Pay attention..

grey fox
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1 year ago
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If you would quit providing links to news sites with bad credibility that would solve your problem.
Making snarky remarks about it solves nothing.

I also recommend fact checking your articles before posting.

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It is insane that cdc is adding unapproved vaccines to its list of recommended childhood immunizations. At this point I’m convinced they are committed to destroying public faith in public health

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1 year ago

I know it has destroyed mine.

HotCoffee
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1 year ago

According to House oversight Chair James Comer (R-KY), the Archives was previously instructed by either the White House or the Department of Justice (DOJ) to hide initial revelations of the Biden classified document scandal from the American people.
In addition, the establishment media reported  at least three times that Biden and the DOJ agreed to hide the scandal from public view with likely no plans to disclose it until the scandal was leaked to CBS News on January 9, weeks after the initial trove was found by Biden’s personal lawyers November 2.

The emails released Friday due to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by Bloomberg, show the Archives secretly coordinating with and accommodating Biden’s personal attorneys to retrieve classified records. The emails also show questions were raised about whether classified materials were also stored in Boston and Philadelphia.
The initial reason or cause for the search at the Penn Biden Center by Biden’s attorneys remains unknown.

12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fpolitics%2F2023%2F02%2F11%2Femails-show-national-archives-secretly-coordinated-bidens-lawyers-retrieve-classified-docs-penn-biden-center-before-midterm-elections%2F

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1 year ago

Imagine you’re a space alien

You travel a bajillion light years to get here

You say, “Take me to your leader”

… and it’s Biden

Now that’s funny…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
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Are you sure Biden isn’t the space Alien?
It would explain a few things… 🙂

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1 year ago
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BDS !! BDS !! BDS !!
You and H Coffee are too funny. Is any thing not Bidens fault? Maybe the earthquake in Turkey ? Come on post some random Twitter post that blames the President for that. You two can do it.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Please don’t give them ideas. They do fine on their own..Careful, they will accuse you of harassing them..

HotCoffee
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1 year ago
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I’m waiting until you to blame it on Trump first.

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1 year ago
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Nice come back. Crack me up. I didn’t mention tRump.
Isn’t that always you RWNJ’s response, that tRump isn’t the President anymore, so it should all be about Biden?

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1 year ago
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Notice I said nothing about your beloved orange Cheeto.
Next !!

grey fox
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1 year ago

Trump’s legal team turned over folder with classified markings to Justice Department
Trump’s lawyers turned the folder over voluntarily and told the DOJ it came from Mar-a-Lago, a senior law enforcement official told NBC News.

FBI also found another classified document in Pences’s home.

They need to search all Trump properties, including his out of Country golf courses.
Especially his UAE golf course

grey fox
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1 year ago

The US Space Agency just received an urgent message from the Andromeda Galaxy (which is 2.5 million light years away)

“We recently sent two peace missions to your planet. We have lost contact with both. Last contact was with one over your Alaska and another over what you call Canada.”

“Please send us any information you have on their possible whereabouts.”

Oops!

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1 year ago

Chinese Spy Balloon shot down last week.

UFO shot down over Alaska yesterday.

Another UFO shot down over Canada today.

Part of Montana’s airspace now closed for “DoD activities.”

What is going on here?
@RepDanBishop

Better stock up the pantry in the morning

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1 year ago
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CNN reporting UFO shot down over Alaska may have been an alien spacecraft: “When they looked at the object they could identify no identifiable propulsion system and they did not know how it was actually staying in the air.”

Man they’re getting desperate…
https://t.co/s20k9myv46
CNN says what???

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1 year ago
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Sheesh, I missed that.
Thanks

grey fox
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1 year ago
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WASHINGTON, Feb 11 (Reuters) – The U.S. military said late on Saturday a radar anomaly prompted the temporary closure of airspace to civilian airplanes in Montana but no threatening object was detected.
But you better check under your bed tonight. ET might be hiding there.. 👽

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1 year ago
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Dark Journalist: “This Is a Dry Run for the UFO Threat, Continuity of Government Play”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlFkttiDU7M&t=4138s

great listen!

grey fox
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1 year ago

More scary shit happening!

Blazing Green Lasers Spotted Over Hawaii; Japan Blames Chinese Satellite For The ‘The Matrix Code’…..

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1 year ago

Are Biden’s border policies to blame for fentanyl deaths? Experts say no…

Deaths from fentanyl jumped 23% in President Joe Biden’s first year in office to more than 70,000, but they’ve been increasing since 2014 and also rose during Donald Trump’s administration.

Although immigration encounters at the southern U.S. border have spiked under Biden’s watch, experts say most of the fentanyl coming into the U.S. from Mexico is coming through legal ports of entry. The vast majority of people sentenced for fentanyl trafficking are U.S. citizens, data shows.
Politifact~

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1 year ago
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The fentanyl story is becoming very interesting. China has in the past been a supplier of the precursor chemicals needed to make the stuff. The Mexicans are getting these supplies in shipments that are exported across our border from the U.S.. The Chinese are concerned about this shit getting loose over there. India who has a huge generic drug formulating industry is getting in. The Sinaloa cartel has people on the ground in India. Small world.

beginning to have some concern about this stuff getting loose over there. India which makes a ton of meds is becoming a new source

grey fox
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1 year ago
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That’s to complicated for some on here to understand. Easier to just blame Biden.
50 years and $1 trillion has been spent on “The War On Drugs”

Think it’s time for a new plan?

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1 year ago

“The worst kind of arrogance is arrogance from ignorance.”
— Jim Rohn

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1 year ago

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230207/The-safety-profile-and-the-actual-known-adverse-effects-of-COVID-19-vaccines-in-at-risk-and-healthy-individuals.aspx

“In addition, vaccine booster-associated myocarditis/pericarditis in males was reported in US universities, requiring hospitalization. Overall, data on myocarditis development post-COVID-19 vaccination can not be ignored since the frequency of vaccine-associated myocarditis is not lower than that with COVID-19.”

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Thanks.

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1 year ago

What’s Biden’s plan to prevent Medicare trust insolvency in 5 years and Social Security insolvency in 10? Only choices are raise eligibility ages or taxes so which does Uncle Joe propose? People need to know so they can plan for retirement.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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In particular, Biden wants to make more wages subject to the Social Security payroll tax. Currently, Americans pay this payroll tax only on income up to $160,200. Under Biden’s campaign plan, any income above $400,000 per year would also be taxed.

Also make corporations pay more in taxes,

Yet Republicans have always liked lowering taxes for the rich.

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1 year ago

For those that want to dispute a Pulitzer award winning investigative journalist, who then sabotaged the Nordstream pipeline if not the US? Who else has the motivation and capacity? Willingly wearing blinders doesn’t make the obvious untrue.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Hersh won the Pulitzer way back in 1970 for My Lai reporting. An event with lots of witnesses and photos.
He has been involved in several conspiracy controversies and has been called out for them by fellow journalists.

His latest concerning the Nordstream was based on information from one anonymous source.

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Ah, Vietnam, started by another lie.
Gulf of Tonkin.
………..
Kuwait..lie
babies dumped from their incubators.

…………
Ollie North
Iran Contra……….
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Weapon and drug runners..
Are you starting to get the picture?

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Anyone that read Hersh’s article knows he has much more than a single anonymous source but some enjoy their blissful ignorance, living like an ostrich, as we play dangerous games with our nuclear weapons peer

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1 year ago
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“but some enjoy their blissful ignorance”
Exactly, and they get down right cranky if you disturb it with a dose of reality

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Jun 12 2022BALTOPS 22: A perfect opportunity for research and testing new technologyBALTIC SEA – A significant focus of BALTOPS every year is the demonstration of NATO mine hunting capabilities, and this year the U.S. Navy continues to use the exercise as an opportunity to test emerging technology.

In support of BALTOPS, U.S. Navy Sixth Fleet partnered with U.S. Navy research and warfare centers to bring the latest advancements in Unmanned Underwater Vehicle (UUV) mine hunting technology to the Baltic Sea to demonstrate the vehicle’s effectiveness in operational scenarios.
Experimentation was conducted off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark, with participants from Naval Information Warfare Center (NIWC) Pacific, Naval Undersea Warfare Center (NUWC) Newport, and Mine Warfare Readiness and Effectiveness Measuring (MIREM) — all under the direction of U.S. Sixth Fleet Task Force 68.
BALTOPS is an ideal location for conducting mine hunting experimentation due to the region’s unique environmental conductions such as low salinity and varying bottom types. It is also critical to evaluate emerging mine hunting UUV technology in the Baltic due to its applicability with Allied and partner nations. This year experimentation was focused on UUV navigation, teaming operations, and improvements in acoustic communications all while collecting critical environmental data sets to advance the automatic target recognition algorithms for mine detection.
“In prior BALTOPS we demonstrated advanced capabilities to detect, re-acquire, and collect images of mine contacts, and transfer those images in near real-time to operators through the use of a specialized Office of Naval Research UUV,” said Anthony Constable, Office of Naval Research Science Advisor to U.S. Sixth Fleet. “This year, through the work of NIWC Pacific and NUWC Newport, we are showing that this capability can be integrated into programs of record by executing complex multi-vehicle UUV missions with modified U.S. Navy Fleet assets.”
An additional critical objective was to continue to increase the communication range and data transfer capability in order to give the operators more flexibility in mine hunting operations. Advancements in communication technology, demonstrated this year, have shown a significant improvement in operating ranges over currently used systems. This provides additional standoff flexibility to the U.S. Navy in conducting safe mine hunting operations.
BALTOPS also provides a unique opportunity for the U.S. Research, Development, and Acquisition communities to exercise the current and emerging UUV technology in real-world operational environments. This year featured the current and future programs of record for mine hunting UUVs in the MK-18 and Lionfish systems. Both systems were put through the paces over 10 days of mine hunting operations, collecting over 200 hours of undersea data.
“The major benefit of the BALTOPS experimentation is to provide advanced mine hunting capabilities to the operator in the field. By exercising the future capabilities, U.S. Sixth Fleet can provide valuable feedback to help guide the Navy acquisition community responsible for mine hunting UUV development and procurement,” said Lt. Joshua Lynn, U.S. Sixth Fleet Experimental Lead for BALTOPS. “This year we have seen the near- and long-term future in mine hunting UUV technology and we are excited to see how quickly the technology and capabilities are improving.”

https://sfn.nato.int/newsroom/news-archive/2022/baltops-22-a-perfect-opportunity-for-research-and-testing-new-technology

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Last June, the Navy divers, operating under the cover of a widely publicized mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that, three months later, destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.
Two of the pipelines, which were known collectively as Nord Stream 1, had been providing Germany and much of Western Europe with cheap Russian natural gas for more than a decade. A second pair of pipelines, called Nord Stream 2, had been built but were not yet operational. Now, with Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian border and the bloodiest war in Europe since 1945 looming, President Joseph Biden saw the pipelines as a vehicle for Vladimir Putin to weaponize natural gas for his political and territorial ambitions.
Asked for comment, Adrienne Watson, a White House spokesperson, said in an email, “This is false and complete fiction.” Tammy Thorp, a spokesperson for the Central Intelligence Agency, similarly wrote: “This claim is completely and utterly false.”
Biden’s decision to sabotage the pipelines came after more than nine months of highly secret back and forth debate inside Washington’s national security community about how to best achieve that goal. For much of that time, the issue was not whether to do the mission, but how to get it done with no overt clue as to who was responsible.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

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BALTOPS22: A look behind the curtain09 June 2022

From U.S. Naval Forces Europe and U.S. Sixth Fleet Public AffairsNAVAL STRIKING AND SUPPORT FORCES NATO BASE, Portugal – Every year, U.S. Naval Forces Europe and U.S. Sixth Fleet, along with Naval Striking and Support Forces NATO (STRIKFORNATO), gathers Allies and partners throughout Europe to participate in exercise Baltic Operations (BALTOPS). This year marks the 51st iteration of BALTOPS—the premier, maritime-focused exercise in the Baltic Sea.

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Each participating nation brings indispensable military expertise to the table, but different languages, different military structures, and diverse backgrounds create a unique environment for coordination on a massive scale. Navigating the challenges associated with this is no easy feat, yet Ally and partner nations continue to execute year after year. That is because exercises, like BALTOPS, provide a unique training opportunity to work in close coordination – often face-to-face – and strengthen combined response capabilities critical to preserving freedom of navigation and regional security. 
This year, more than 45 ships, over 75 aircraft, and 7,000 personnel are tasked to execute a series of complex events throughout the two-week exercise. One may ask how it is possible, but a key piece to the puzzle lies within the exercise control group (EXCON).
EXERCISE CONTROL
Planning for each iteration of BALTOPS is a year-long process that begins as soon as the previous exercise ends. And perfectly positioned to plan this exercise, is STRIKFORNATO — a rapidly deployable joint headquarters that plans, commands, and controls NATO maritime operations within the Euro-Atlantic region.
If you were to walk into STRIKFORNATO headquarters, in Oeiras, Portugal, you would witness an international team of military experts, working meticulously to create plans and contingency responses for both real-world and exercise scenarios.
In addition to planning BALTOPS, the team is charged with the challenging role of serving as exercise control throughout the exercise itself. The EXCON maintains the overall operating picture during the exercise and ensures scenario progressions run according to plan.
“It’s a large and complex exercise,“ said Royal Navy Cmdr. Anthony Wallace, BALTOPS exercise lead. “We have broken down focus areas into syndicates and assigned subject matter experts as the leads of those syndicates. During the exercise, they work to ensure their respective events are planned and executed successfully.”

more @

https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/3057254/baltops22-a-look-behind-the-curtain/

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1 year ago
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Mr. Hersh himself refers to a single source for the actual info about the explosions that destroyed Nord Stream pipelines. “Last June, the Navy divers, operating under the cover of a widely publicized mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that, three months later, destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.” https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

“It’s somebody who seems to know quite a bit about what was going on,” Hersh told TASS.” https://tass.com/world/1573519

grey fox
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1 year ago
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You may as well be talking to a brick wall.
And HC is running interference for him by stringing all those articles together

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1 year ago
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What interference exactly? The articles are related to each other, so I posted them together.
The links should all be acceptable.
Do you ever stop complaining about me?
Oops, you say it’s calling me out.
So what exactly is your gripe this time.

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1 year ago
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I really think your motive is to stir up sh*t between ms K and myself because you want me banned.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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Yes , that’s the plan…You got me…

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

What’s you’re journalistic standard for accepting as accurate something in a case like this?

Would he have to have someone willing to go on record and risk their career, freedom, and perhaps life for it to be acceptable? Because in that case very little of the military and intelligence crimes of the world would ever be “accepted”.

Does this reporter have a history of lying or misrepresenting sources?

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago

The reporter has a recent history of taking single sources to base a story on and that isn’t necessarily going to give you a wrong answer but…it can. It’s not like I’ve never done it but, if that source has an agenda, you and your readers can get screwed. Again, I am not saying the story isn’t true but that caution is a reasonable response.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Agreed, caution is always called for whenever you’re dealing with “sources” within the military/intelligence nexus. Those people are professional liars who are often engaged in major crimes so its hard to take anything at face value.

But the nature of that world also means that a single source is often the only thing that can ever be expected.

From my perspective Mr. Hirsch’s story does align with the most likely scenario. No one else has as much motive to disrupt russian-european petroleum partnerships as the US does and no one profited as much from the act.

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1 year ago
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Who’s paying you, and maybe some of the others? How much $ do you contribute here to get a pass spreading propaganda? How many here get fooled, waiting for signal to rush doors or become cover for those who do? An extinct species of giant squirrel discovered in Siberia 2019, making a comeback here? If Trump is nominee will you vote for him 3rd time. This so easy, drafting questions to sow doubt?

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1 year ago
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You’re anxious for nuclear WW3?

Sigh
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1 year ago
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Loo moo natti

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1 year ago
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NATO…???

(Which is not specifically the US, but includes the US.)

grey fox
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1 year ago

@augieray
Remember all the speculative BS from the Covid deniers that suggested pulling kids into online learning was adding to teen suicides. That was absolutely wrong. In fact, school attendance RAISES teen suicide rates.
“Returning from online to in-person schooling was associated with a 12-to-18 percent increase in teen suicides.”
I’m not advocating against in-person education, but
1) the COVID deniers were wrong AGAIN, and
2) We need to make education safer for kids.

grey fox
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1 year ago

2 NIAID Studies Highlight COVID-19 Nasal Vaccine Potential

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/covid-nasal-vaccines

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1 year ago

Woke far left BBB extremists now rabidly trying to ban USB cables because they only have 2 genders (male and female) .

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1 year ago
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Will they ban Hardware stores?
Plumbing has only 2 genders as well.
If you eliminate Electrical and Plumbing Departments, I guess you still have paint,
After all, there’s nothing else in this world that needs fixing, so let’s dwell on the ridiculous.

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1 year ago
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Hilarious! Yes paint has neutral colors so it is still safe from them .. for now 😂

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1 year ago
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Next RWNJ’s “talking points”. Hardware stores. You are too funny.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Actually there are fittings to change male to female or the other way. You can also join two male fittings together. Same with female fittings. Some fittings are male and female.
Electrical wiring has a neutral wire

Plumbing and electricical are very adaptable.
And non-judgmental

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1 year ago
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And the objective of the adapters, which are also 2 genders, is to unite the 2 original genders.
Only a male adapter fits a female receptor, and only a female attaches to a male fitting.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Your missing the point.

Hope this doesn’t upset you That’s one fitting.

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1 year ago
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What you fail to disclose about your male/female adapter is that it will just sit in the plumbing bin until it’s needed for it’s intended purpose. Which is to connect to its proper receptacle, being male or female.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

But in the real world they have a choice as to who they couple with.
And shouldn’t be judged for that.

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1 year ago
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I don’t need to judge anyone to realize there are universal laws, you know like gravity, or don’t stick an active electrical cord into water..
And yes people have choices, as they should.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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And it’s called an adapter. So can be changed to be something else.

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1 year ago
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https://kymkemp.com/2023/02/08/two-new-hospitalizations-says-humboldt-county-public-health/#comment-1607821
Didn’t we already establish what it’s called?
It still has no perpose until properly used.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Your still missing the point.
That fitting is both male and female. You can’t call it either. Just like you can’t label peoples gender by your interpretation. Let them call themselves what ever they want. Not your place to judge.

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

My judgement is that there are universal laws that apply to this universe, and changing them to whatever you want isn’t one of them. Yes, you can try it, but the laws still have consequences.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Your judgement?
The Universe is in a constant state of change.

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Yes, but the laws that hold it together are not in constant change.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Quantum physics . Spooky action at a distance. The Universe is a lot weirder than you think.

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1 year ago
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☕,

You know what is hilarious…???

Somebody calling that fitting an “adapter”…

It might come in handy if a guy needed an “extension”, but it isn’t gonna adapt jack shit, other than fixing the pipe, or coupler, being an inch “too short”.

You see, that fitting is a 1/2″ MIP × 1/2″ FIP…😂

So when you put it on the leading end of your 1/2″ Male Iron Pipe fitting, viola!, you now still lead with… wait for it… 1/2″ Male Iron Pipe… Nothing has changed…

Except the length. One additional inch…

Same thing if you put it in a female fitting, you just end up with another female fitting… But you added an inch…

In practice, except in very limited constrained circumstances, I reallyo don’t see much use in it…

Like tits on a boar…

As far as being male or female it doesn’t change anything. So, calling it an adapter…???

Nonsense…

It changes nothing…

So calling it an “adapter” is nonsense, it’s more of an “extension”, or a “street” coupler…

It’s a hybrid “close nipple”/ “coupler”…

( A “street” elbow is male on one end and female on the other…)

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Pretty funny
People can pretend whatever they want, but reality remains the same.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Best to check wheels on bandwagon before jumping on…

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I said it was a fitting. I was talking about the other fittings. But yes the pic is also called an adapter

grey fox
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grey fox
6 hours ago
Reply to HotCoffee
Your missing the point.

Hope this doesn’t upset you That’s one fitting.

So laugh that off.
And here is the description for the fitting I posted a pic of.

Anderson Metals Brass Pipe Fitting, Adapter, 1/2″ Male Pipe x 3/4″ Female Pipe
So actually you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Cussing at me doesn’t make you any more correct than you were before you said F.
Need a nap? You’re getting cranky.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Ummmm what are you talking about? Cussing at you?
This is getting stranger and
stranger.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

“So actually you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.”

Sorry cussing at Guest

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

I’ll take care of this…

Here is the same EXACT picture…

EXACT, scratches and all…

Complete with description… “1/2″ male pipe × 1/2” female pipe”…, as can be very clearly seen…

Some people just can’t admit it, even when faced with incontrovertible proof they are absolutely, positively, wrong…

And that, too, is a fact…

I fact checked my statement, before I made it, to be sure…

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

What you didn’t check was that it also comes in 1/2 male to 3/4 female. See my screenshot at Ca Covid report.
And actually the size doesn’t matter as you can see it also calls it an adapter. You just proved yourself wrong.
Good job.

And I quote you;
“ So calling it an “adapter” is nonsense, it’s more of an “extension”, or a “street” coupler

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Guest
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1 year ago
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“Extension…”

Just like I said…

If it doesn’t change diameters, or thread configuration, it doesn’t “adapt”, or change anything…

Also called extension nipples…

Available in 1/2″, 3/4″ and 1″ “extensions”…

Primary use is to raise sprinkler heads slightly without a major job…

Constraints, like I said…

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Bluefin-BREX025-1-2-Brass-Extension-Piece-Lead-Free

https://www.amazon.com/FPPI-Extension-Nipple-Brass/dp/B08BLQN62B

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

😂 You posted a screenshot shot of it. They describe it as an adapter.
Jesus, you were wrong and still can’t admit it.

The Real Brian
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Extensions are nothing but extensions of the same configuration.

What you posted is an adaptor.

Male to female.

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Wrong.

Spacial conception is hard.

Thread it over pipe and you still have pipe.

Thread it into female threads and you still have female threads.

Nothing changes but length.

As far as Male to female…???

Or vice-versa…???

A coupl[ing] converts male to female.

And a pipe or nipple converts female to male.

Simple.

Try it.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

What’s wrong is you not admitting the fitting in the pic is called an adapter..

The Real Brian
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Nope.

A coupling is adjoining two male or female pieces.

So couplings are generally the same on each end as it “couples” two of the same together.

You posted an adapter.

Apparently there is no hole deep enough for you.

Go back to the pic YOU POSTED WHERE IT SAYS ADAPTER and get a shovel.

These are couplings:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ace%2C+pvc+couplers&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj0wrWFgJj9AhVuEN4AHZgqCWYQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=ace%2C+pvc+couplers&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoECCMQJzoECAAQQzoFCAAQgAQ6BwgjEOoCECc6BAgAEAM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgYIABAIEB46BwgAEIAEEBg6BQghEKsCOgQIIRAKOgQIHhAKUPwEWIA_YPBBaAFwAHgIgAHZBogBzziSAQ4wLjUuMTIuMC4zLjEuMpgBAKABAbABBcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=bQ_tY7TYMe6g-LYPmNWksAY&bih=723&biw=384&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

I posted the screenshot of the fitting (adapter) at the California Covid report.

And you are also wrong about the street elbow. They come in a variety of different ends. Some are just open at both ends.

Just Google street elbow image

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

No matter what kind of end it has, it will only accept the opposite gender to make a connection.
Is that simple enough for you?
If a fitting has 2 female openings it is still a single female fitting, same with a MIP.
And it doesn’t matter if it’s a brass fitting, abs fitting, copper fitting, PVC fitting, etc.
You don’t go in the store and ask for a coupler with 2 female ends, you just ask for a coupler of whatever type of pipe you’re using..

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Your still missing the point.

And yes you would ask for a coupler (coupling) with two female ends. Depending
But good for you. At least you know the terminology
that Guest is struggling with.
Actually they are called a coupling but coupler is close enough
“Close enough for Government work”as we say in the plumbing trade.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

PS there is all kinds of different couplings also.

Look into pneumatic couplings.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Wait I see what’s wrong. Sorry I am a little slow at times.
I was using plumbing fittings as an anology but you have trouble with analogies..My bad. Will also try to avoid them with you.
Or maybe I am just really bad at analogies..

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HotCoffee
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1 year ago
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What’s really funny is I have ordered for four different Ace hardware stores, for all nine departments, during 20 years in the industry.
I also knew and worked all nine departments.
The orders came out of Yakima, Washington.
I’ve been to several Ace Conventions to place orders all over the Country. I know several store owners.
So, you telling me to go to Amazon to see a plumbing fitting was hilarious.
Would you like to talk about P traps or putting in a garbage disposal?
Did you know that you place your orders for Christmas in May? Most of them are for the Housewares Dept. That would be dept. 6.
Electrical is dept 4, Hardware is #5

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HotCoffee
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1 year ago
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PS My entire family has been in the building trades, except my Grandmother ,she worked at UCSF in cancer research.
………..
Want to talk roof patch, Ace wants you to sell their brand, but most customers prefer Henry’s.
And almost every salesperson hates those red vests and that duck.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
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Hmm,

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
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Nighty night gf,
let me know if you need help with that wagon. 🙂
Ace sells wheels too.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Not me that needs the education.. (not mentioning any names) I was the handy man that came into the store to buy that 1/2 in. coupling. Or that 30 amp circuit breaker..Got any painters tape? Drywall screws? I need a bolt that expands once its in place. Got any of those? I will also take that hex key set. Where is your roofing materials? Shed needs a new roof. I can talk shop with you all day long.
That wasn’t my bandwagon. But I could repair it. Personally I would have checked to see if it was safe to get on on before doing so.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

PS: I didn’t tell you to go to the Amazon site. I told Guest. That’s twice you got crossed up. Hopefully after a good nights sleep things will be clearer.
Garbage disposal.. Did you know there is a fitting at the bottom to use in case of jams? 1/4 in hex key works if I remember right.Also a reset button if it kicks out.

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HotCoffee
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

What ever.
It was late and I did get tired.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Just glad you didn’t get hurt when the wheels fell off that bandwagon..
Sorry couldn’t resist. Time to move on.

Thatguyinarcata
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1 year ago
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Why are you speaking about people as if they are plumbing fixtures?

grey fox
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1 year ago

Sighs…Analogy. You have to go to the beginning of the thread. This is really about the whole he, she thing. I countered with fittings that can change gender. And showed one that is neither male nor female but both.
A bad analogy I guess. Actually turned into the usual rabbit hole then got into who knows more about plumbing..And finally Ace hardware..LOL Chalk it up to a RHBB comment section…Don’t take it to seriously.

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Thatguyinarcata
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1 year ago
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Plumbing fittings don’t change “gender”. That would lead to a major failure of the system. You need every connection to have a securely joined male and female fitting of the same thread type to have a leak free plumbing system.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

Started as a joke between Lou M and myself about how much language would need to be changed to make it gender-neutral.
As usual, gf jumped in to show his superior knowledge, this time in plumbing.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Nope, not my point at all. But I do know my plumbing. And you just did what you complained about. Jumped into a conversation.. LOL…

My point was about judgmental people.

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Once again you have underestimated me. Look up a copper fitting elbow. Open at both ends..
Think you would have learned by now

Copper 90° Street Elbows
3/4″ FTG x Copper 90° Street Elbow
An apology and a retraction from you is in order

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

PS:
Applications. Street elbows are available with bend angles of 90°, 45°, and 22.5°

Anderson Metals 06230-08 Brass Pipe Fitting, 90 Degree Forged Elbow, 1/2″ x 1/2″ Male Pipe

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Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
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“Open at both ends”… LOL.😂

“But I do know my plumbing.” … LOL 😂

“Some are just open at both ends.” LOL😂

Come again…???

What does that even mean…???🤪😜🤷‍♂️

“Open”, you say, as in female?

You might want to fact check that…

Link please.

“An apology and a retraction from you is in order”…😜🤪…LOL😂

Stop.😂 Just stop…😂

It’s too much…!!!

“Look up a copper fitting elbow”…

“Open at both ends”….🤔

“Once again you have underestimated me”…

“Think you would have learned by now”…

SMDH…

ROTFLMFAO…

That’s too damn funny…

(“Street” elbows are male on one end, female on the other, regardless of whether they are threaded fittings or not…)

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

You’re wrong.

Time to admit it.

You just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper…

Here is a link to Merriam Webster…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/street%20elbow

“street elbow
noun
: a pipe elbow with a female thread on one end and a male thread on the other”

And here is a link to Wikipedia…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_elbow

Argue with Merriam Webster, and Wikipedia for a while, will ya…

You’re wasting time.

(The angle doesn’t matter.)

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Oops…I was thinking of 90’s.. God, the great gf was wrong.. Time to retire.

Call it what you want. It’s just one of many types of elbows as far as I am concerned

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Actually the great gf was only half wrong.. Copper street elbows are open at both ends..

Guest
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1 year ago
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*

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Giant Squirrel
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1 year ago

Let’s hope the public isn’t gullible enough to buy UFO speculation from the government’s intentionally vague description of the objects sighted Alaska, Canada, Montana, Michigan, Uruguay, and green lasers stroking from the heavens.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Big Tech is sophisticated enough now to project any image they choose, blurring the lines between reality and deception.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Now they’ve allowed one to transit to center of our continent and then shot it down over Lake Huron? Are we sure Biden isn’t chasing birthday balloon gottaways for political reasons?

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

The only thing I’m sure of with Biden is you can’t be sure of anything He says or does.
Just ask CornPop.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

They’re multiplying…………..
‘Unidentified object’ downed over Lake Huron, 3rd this weekPresident Joe Biden on Sunday ordered an “unidentified object” shot down with a missile by U.S. fighter jets Sunday over Lake Huron, and it was believed to be the same one tracked over Montana and monitored by the government beginning the night before, U.S. officials said.

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/unidentified-object-downed-over-lake-huron-3rd-this-week/?trk_msg=9I5O1JO0BNIKJBPPT0JD0P4JC8&trk_contact=9BJIFDA52N6DI17FT70JT5ABG8&trk_sid=09K2VGN87N1SIVGQKVEHU6447S&trk_link=IV0B9J0ATDR4R1O5GSP2U4UKDG&utm_email=C4DCF5A3246124E0748DA4E38A&g2i_eui=hWtcry%2B1OC7XmN4b3Uoq3Q%3D%3D&g2i_source=newsletter

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

“The liberal is always mistaken because he does not distinguish between the consequences he attributes to his intentions and the consequences his intentions effectively include.”
—Nicolás Gómez Dávila (1913 – 1994) Columbian philosopher

The old “unintended consequences” excuse

Sigh
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Sigh
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

School is again in, brought to you by moderates:
For long time, Ukraine’s relative Putin-puppet, Yanukovych, couldn’t speak Ukrainian. His opponent in the early millennium election years, Yushchenko, was poisoned in an assassination attempt (gee, who’s the king of poisoning: Putin). Yanukovych kissed kremlin ass, was eventually convicted of high treason by Ukraine.

Thatguyinarcata
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Thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

When was that quote given and what do you think he meant by “liberal “?

A liberal minded person supports liberty. It’s simple language.

There’s been a concerted effort to usurp this word for authoritarian purposes. Using quotes that speak against the true definition of “liberal” just serves that authoritarian purpose

grey fox
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1 year ago

This is unconfirmed, but there are reports that a high attitude ballon was seen over the area at the time of the Nordstream 1 pipeline explosion….🎈

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

The reason the Nordstream sabotage allegations in the Seymour Hersh article need to be thoroughly investigated and either substantiated or refuted is because, if true, Biden is subject to impeachment for violation of our Constitution, undertaking an act of war without advance Congressional authorization. If our journalists won’t then Congress must, no executive privilege or national security justifications for concealing or redaction any damning evidence from those with appropriate security clearance.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Is the 400,000 tons of greenhouse gases released by the Nordstream sabotage even more than will be saved by Biden’s trillion dollar Green New Deal spending?

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Sigh
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

You’re right, Russia is demanding investigation (yeah, that Russia) and reputable news organizations STILL haven’t substantiated the allegations. Why do you support Putin in this?

Sigh
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Sigh
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Nice try giant lou guest hot hot hot … but not really. That’s Russian foreign ministry … again. So, still not substantiated it was US that blew it up. In meantime, we wait for credible sources to step forward into the light and back each other. Personally, I wouldn’t mind if Joe did y chance approve it. To think, before Russia invaded Ukraine Trump withheld military aide to … Ukraine, and did so for domestic political purposes (and to kiss his buddy Putin’s ass planning and prepping invasion). Substantiated. This the stuff you won’t hear from rightwingers here … in support of Putin. Stranger than fiction, this new rightwing. Crack us up.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Sigh

This is stranger than fiction, and it became non-fiction.

https://kymkemp.com/2023/02/14/metallic-balloons-may-be-an-electrifying-valentines-day-gift-if-not-secured/#comment-1608374
………………

A distraction from Nordstream?

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Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

What other credible responsible agency… razor theory and all?

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

US embassy warning Monday morning for all Americans to leave Russia immediately

Sigh
Guest
Sigh
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Be consistent, man. Seymour Hersh is FIVE years older than too-old cognitive-decline Biden. Why do you support Putin?

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

Three new dangerous chemicals were found on the train that derailed in East Palestine, Ohio:

“We basically nuked a town with chemicals so we could get a railroad open… I was surprised when they quickly told the people they could go back home.”

https://t.co/knBBhR07Q5
Huge environmental disaster. Why hasn’t Mayor Pete made a visit yet and blamed the derailment on racism?

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

New video shows Ohio local waterways filled with dead fish

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
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Vinyl chloride headed towards the Mississippi River, killing everything in its path, but they say the water is safe to drink..

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Party control of Ohio state government – Ballotpedia

The Republican Party controls the offices of governor, secretary of state, attorney general, and both chambers of the state legislature. As of February 10, 2023 

Thatguyinarcata
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Thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Railroads are all under federal jurisdiction

grey fox
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1 year ago

Could Aquaman have been involved in the Nordstream 1 explosion? The navy had a program to train dolphins to plant mines. Could it have been a rogue group of dolphins?