Interview by Epoch Times About ‘How Progressives Sold Our Rural Towns to Foreign Drug Lords

California Insider, hosted by Siyamak Khorrami with The Epoch Times*, interviews Jorge Ventura, about his new “documentary” Narcofornia subtitled How Progressives Sold Our Rural Towns to Foreign Drug Lords.

The title is a hint that the “reporter” in this case has a point of view to push so don’t expect straightforward information from the video.

One watch through left this reporter uncomfortable with the lack of adherence to facts by Jorge Ventura. One cringe worthy moment is where he mangles the meaning of trimmigrants. He claims, “A trimmigrant is someone who is a migrant who has been brought up by a cartel or illegal growers who has been forced to trim and grow marijuana.” A simple Google search would have told him that while some trimmigrants are abused, the word refers to people who voluntarily travel to an area to trim marijuana–they are choosing to get a job, not being forced into servitude.

Nonetheless, the interview is worth a watch for those interested in the cannabis cultures of northern California.

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*Be aware that the Epoch Times is known for conspiracy theories and is closely affiliated with the religious Falun Gong movement.

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Thatguyinarcata
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Thatguyinarcata
1 year ago

I’m trying to get through it, but 20% of the way through and the grammatical and factual errors are hard to wade through

Two Dogs
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Two Dogs
1 year ago

We can divert attention to the periphery of this situation all we want, but it doesn’t change what is at the core. This guy has that part right. This is a sanctuary state with too many self centered people walking around with their eyes wide shut. It won’t work out well for anyone except the politicians and the criminals.
To me, Kalifornia is the shining house on the hill that everyone would love to live in, but the cesspool is full.
This isn’t about the definition of trimmigrants. It’s about looking down the road, making life and death decisions for your children. Make sure “Your” history isn’t the only one out there for them.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Two Dogs

Can you offer any specifics of what you’d do different in CA? Mississippi is different than California. Do Mississippi’s policies make it a better place to live, or an easier place to make money?

SickofSocialists
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SickofSocialists
1 year ago

Mississippi is a great place to live and work, unless you are in Gulfport or Jackson. Pretty much the same as any state: Cities are cesspools full of crime, rural areas are great, and the city folks blame the rural areas for all of their issues.
Long past time to wall of the cities and move on with life.

KemperCountyBornandRaised
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KemperCountyBornandRaised
1 year ago

You don’t know what you’re talking about in reference to Mississippi. The work is scarce unless you wanna be a teacher, nurse or fast food worker. And those are low wage jobs your ca minimum wage is miles ahead of MS.You’ll be lucky if you get a rigging job off the gulf coast or you decide to get a cdl and then your on the road barely in Mississippi. Move there and talk to me again, I’ve been a Californian for six years now because of lack of work in my home state

Thatguyinarcata
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Thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  Two Dogs

I’m really not sure what you’re talking about. California has its problems and there are plenty of aspects of the state’s administration that I disagree with, but havinging traveled extensively in the states our little slice of paradise is still my favorite place and the only place I’d want to live and raise my kids.

Thatguyinarcata
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Thatguyinarcata
1 year ago

Also, $49 billion worth of illegal weed in siskyou? Siskyou weed isn’t broaching $500. So there’s 98 million pounds of weed grown in siskyou?

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago

They are pricing it out at full retail dime bags on the streets of Miami. And probably then some.

Smoky OG again
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Smoky OG again
1 year ago
Reply to  Hayforker

In other words LYING!

Thatguyinarcata
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Thatguyinarcata
1 year ago

Well, that’s some pretty low quality reporting at the end of the day. There’s definitely some fucked up shit happening in siskyou and other eastern CA counties, but this dude Mr ventura is ridiculous.

We definitely need “Washington DC ” to step in because the Minnesota hmong cartels are stealing dogs to grow weed and fraudulently voting their way into power so that they can continue their 100 billion dollar illegal weed business. That’s definitely what’s happening. Trust me bro

Xebeche
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Xebeche
1 year ago

😂😂😂😂😂
What kind of dogs grow weed in Minnesota?

Old oak
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1 year ago
Reply to  Xebeche

The answer is such low hanging
Fruit. Good for a quick chuckle. But probably would get censored or banned as its “offensive”.

Vang clan is not around where I’m at right now. They seem to lay low, like to hunt/fish with questionable ethical practices. And grow weed.

I’d like to see an immigration policy for the Karen and Kachin people of Burma . They have been fighting a long war against the junta for a a noble cause.

Actually
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Actually
1 year ago
Reply to  Old oak

What is this answer that should be obvious

Old oak
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Old oak
1 year ago
Reply to  Actually

Im sure you can figure it out if your think about it.

Hint.. it’s a slang word for a mixed breed dog.

moviedad
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moviedad
1 year ago
Reply to  Xebeche

Huskies!

Timb0D
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1 year ago
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Smokin’ adorable ones.

Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
1 year ago

Closely associated with Falun Gong movement? So, a movement in China which is religious is a bad thing? The followers deserve prison time and organ removal against their will? Wow. Is there a problem Americans have with that? I think so, since religion is banned in China. And the only god is their fake flying spaghetti monster leader who they must bow to under extreme duress. Under that logic, as far as being known for conspiracy theories, every article from nbc, cbs, abc, cnn, msnbc, pbs, etc needs to have an annotation saying they are known for pushing and promoting conspiracy theories given their track record: the Russian Trump fiasco now proven false; the real Hunter Biden laptop at the time promoted as fake; the police report by Tara Reid of a sexual assault by Biden never proven inaccurate by anybody while her animals were harmed and she had to leave her home due to threats on her life, as she currently flounders looking for work and has been told she cannot be hired because it would expose the companies to retaliation with IRS audits and god knows what other forms of silencing; the phone call between the dwarf in Ukraine and Trump proven to be of no consequence; the Pelosi husband scandal of which everyone has an inkling of what really was going on and backed up by a top Bay Area reporter who got removed as the fall guy after a call from Nancy, the Epstein client list which the news has no interest in because most of their democrat hero’s would go down in a ball of flames if ever exposed, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. It’s curious that the Pelosi reporter took the fall but his editors didn’t, isn’t it. He didn’t make it up and what he stated was approved by the higher ups as no news reporter goes solo with stories. But the editors and station managers didn’t go away, did they! Classic fall guy, take out the lowest rung and let everyone else slide if they keep their mouths shut. Example made, shut your mouth or your life is ruined. Boom. Very convenient for everyone except the award winning reporter who now flounders like Tara. Why would Tara Reid be threatened just prior to 2020 when the incident occurred a decade + earlier, have to move from her home to another state, can’t find a job, animals harmed, if what she reported to the police wasn’t true? It is true or nobody would care and she wouldn’t be harassed. She would be written off and ignored as another nutcase. Tara Reid be a nut but that proven liar whom attempted to disparage Judge Kavanaugh, hero. Democrats cannot deal with reality and will crush any dissent for speaking the truth, will prop up proven liars and denounce truth tellers, and the biased news could careless.

I guess life isn’t fair when you are dealing with powerful creeps who look at the rest of society as bugs to be crushed. And the compliant media looks the other way because it’s their team. Maybe an intrepid reporter can become the next Watergate hero by actually finding and exposing that list of perverts of Epstein or provide the real story of Tara Reid or expose the real underbelly of the progressive mota industry. Let the chips fall where they may, republicans, democrats, black market organized crime all need to be exposed and it is our right as citizens to know what our elected leaders are really up to as they work for us and we pay their salaries and golden parachutes. You would think every reporter in the world would go for that but something tells me they want to wake up in the morning and drive to work in a car with working brakes. They know they are dealing with defective dangerous people who can rub them out like erasing the words on a chalkboard. Yep. Political affiliation bias is supposed to be a no no in the news business but we all know that is truly not the case given the above examples going one direction all the time, everytime. Americans need to wake up and realize they don’t take orders, we order those whose salaries we pay. Stop being compliant sheeple, the politicians deserve nothing but scorn and ridicule, everyday and all the time. It will keep them in line and afraid of their real bosses, us. Someday, the citizens will wake up and like Clint said in High Plains Drifter, “hell has come to town” and the entire town will be painted red. I suggest watching that movie as it says alot about our current predicament with supposed good people looking the other way for convenience. Maybe not so good people huh, sheeple with masks who bend over for experimental shots because their false gods ordered them to.

sohumjoe
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sohumjoe
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

^^^ the rantings of a lunatic ^^^. TAKE YOUR MEDS!!

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1 year ago
Reply to  sohumjoe

From one lunatic to all the rest, we don’t call them “trimmigrants”, we call them “trimsients” which is more accurate…

Yes, the giant cartels were buying up large real estate holdings, but now marijuana is mostly grown in areas closer to major highways and large population centers, simply because it’s cheaper to farm nearer town.

The drought and the fire profile of Northern California will necessarily limit production, eventually, and the highly divisive and cohesion-less folk who live out in the boonies, while not necessarily ignorant hicks, are unable to form together and produce economically.

There is also a tendency to inflate the “quality claims” of NoCal pot, and if there is one single gram that actually tests over 30% THC, I would like to try it…

Your weed isn’t special, your lifestyle is nearly at an end, and commercial dope production will be in the hands of billionaires’ corporations some of which will be actually funded by Cartels…

Only by taking the money out of drug dealing, will the “drug problem” be corrected, but I doubt if this will occur in the next 25 years…

This item is twisted, and a little reactionary, even for this blog, but was mildly entertaining… I give it a 3 out of 10, and next time, consider the source…

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1 year ago

OH and some of the people working in Marijuana Production are actually “slaves”, or abused persons under the control of criminals…

Villian
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Villian
1 year ago

You really need to have your meds looked into for interactions dude. every time I read your ramblings they’re farther from reality.
Perhaps it’s from reading the “Epoch Times”.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Villian

Everything pretty much interacts, and have you seen the list of “side effects” of Ibuprofen?

The distance from reality grows ever longer, in the comment section of RHBB, and the most amazing fact here is that a sober retired teacher actually reads every word of every comment to see if it fits the “format”…

I don’t have hardly that much energy, and whenever I do, I will go make some bracelets or a necklace to sell in the spring…

Sometimes I eat a “gummie” but weed is famous for “gumming” you all up, so I don’t smoke it any more, and other than that, I take a Beta-Blocker and that is it. Haven’t had a drink in over 30 years.

Myself, I blame 20 years of schooling and 40 years on the day shift…

pcwindhamD
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1 year ago

Channeling Dylan?

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Earthquake weather again this morning
1 year ago

So many people have misused the term “Cartel” that we’ve forgotten the definition. You say
“Cartels buying up land”, but what you really mean is
“Non whites buying up land”
A “Cartel” is competitors coming together to dictate prices. Which is a great idea. If there were any Cartel formed around GROWING weed, I’m all in. Current weed prices paid to growers is the best evidence against any true cartel existing in the weed biz.

Uri
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Uri
1 year ago

This is not a white vs brown or black issue. in fact the Russian cartels I would think are made up of people who happen to have white skin. And I have yet to hear of Black cartels growing weed.
Weed prices are much higher where it can be sold illegally which is why it is being smuggled to those places.

Country Joe
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1 year ago

No cartel criminals are buying up land…

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  Country Joe

So the cartel guys that had the two acre grow in Myer’s Flat weren’t cartel guys? Like just about every commenter said they were? We’re you all lying then? So Mexican cartels aren’t setting up grows on the Native’s land in Covelo like the residents say? My sweet Bulgarian friends who tell me that they’re part of an organization aren’t cartel? Nicest cartel guys ever but still drug cartel. Specialize in prostitution actually. The Chinese who are buying up land in Siskiyou aren’t cartel?

Go smoke some more dope.

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Earthquake weather again this morning
1 year ago

That is a list of foreign nationalities you’ve heard of growing weed. Nothing you said fits the definition of a cartel by itself. A conspiracy, a race, or an business organization alone, even if it’s engaged in illegal activities, doesn’t make it a cartel.

Country Joe
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1 year ago

You misunderstood my post. Cartel criminals have been buying land here for decades…We finally got rid of the one’s in Myers Flat…Out near Ft. Stewart, a couple of Russian guys helped me jump start my 51 Willys jeep. Nice guys but still Cartel…
Go ye and smoke more dope…

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right
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right
1 year ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Yeah they are.

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In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago

Go to Covelo you dink.

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1 year ago

Dink! Good point. Compelling, but I’m still not convinced you know what the definition of a cartel is. Look it up! I’ve been to Covelo! Are they organized to set prices anywhere? Cartel sounds tough. The term was abused by US news media to strike fear in a Midwestern heart when they discuss Mexican drug organizations. Even back when it may have been more accurate, describing the Columbian cocaine organizations, having a Medellin “Cartel” competing with a Cali “Cartel”, almost undercuts the claim.

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1 year ago

They don’t have to organize in Covelo. They are organized before they arrive. They organize by experience, family or contacts. It’s like Wal-Mart with an established pattern or maybe a franchise. The pattern is set, the funding given and the product distributed accirdingly. If the contacts are race based, the cartel is race based. Family of course is born race based. But controlled by violence is part of the pattern.

Your racist stereotyping is rampant as shown by the words “strike fear in a Midwestern heart” as if no one other than native born white people live there. Or maybe it’s just geological ignorance. Or maybe you’re a drug dealer apologist.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

What if people from Illinois, or Ohio came here to grow weed. Is it a cartel?!

ABA
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ABA
1 year ago

Another day, another openly racist comment left up on Redheaded Blackbelt for 11 goddamn hours. What’s it going to take?

Old oak
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Old oak
1 year ago

Who owns the entire downtown mainstreet
Of The town of Weed CA?

Why is round valley/coveloco all industrial greenhouses that are not permitted/legal but there is nothing done?

What is Asian Bubba?

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1 year ago
Reply to  Old oak

car·tel
/kärˈtel/

noun
an association of manufacturers or suppliers with the purpose of maintaining prices at a high level and restricting competition.

Is bubba going for more money? Is it just sold to Asians? Are you prevented from growing it to reduce competition?
Again, nobody’s showed me an example of a cartel in operation. “Cartel”is used as a buzz word to describe a grow operated by an ethnicity other than northern European.

cranky old lady
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1 year ago
Reply to  sohumjoe

OMG, yes!!!

This poor thing has been swallowed by Q.
🤣

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  sohumjoe

What happened to the rules on no personal attacks?

Timb0D
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Is that comment all it would take. I’ve seen worse on bubble gum comics.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
1 year ago
Reply to  sohumjoe

Hes right

guest`
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1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Turn off Fox News it is completely rotting your thinking.

cranky old lady
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1 year ago
Reply to  guest`

Oh, no… that rant is beyond Faux News; they’d even disown that screed as waaaaaay beyond rational. Al L Ivesmatr is completely delusional and beyond the bounds of reality. Poor thing is material for a locked psych ward.
😜

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Earthquake weather again this morning
1 year ago

Or a Senator. Hey, we may disagree on politics, but he keeps to the theme way better than Herschel Walker can! Probably less of of a hypocrite too, and shoot, resides in Georgia as much as Walker does!

Country Joe
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1 year ago

Hershel isn’t part of the establishment…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

What happened to the rules on no personal attacks?

Timb0D
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

On poor Mr. Walker, or on the cranky old lady? Has everyone hit their head hard on the corner table here?

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  guest`

You get the facts and truth at Fox News… Our biased and corrupt lame stream media is the propaganda arm of the democrat party. Honest and fair Journalism is dead.

Actually
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Actually
1 year ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Lol. All news outfits have a bias, it’s unavoidable. The left wing leaning networks bug me too. Fox News however is so blatant and outrageously over the top that it causes me concern when people take the networks spin as “truth”.

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  Actually

All networks spin but Fox doesn’t spin to the left…

Bridey
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Bridey
1 year ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Spot on, CJ! And for comic relief and varying viewpoints —> Gutfeld!

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  Bridey

Greg’s funny on occasion…

Timb0D
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1 year ago
Reply to  Country Joe

You’re just fishing for negative discourse Country joe. Get the band back together.

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  Timb0

A typical response from the left…No dissent here or you’re trolling. The Band of Brothers…

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Thanks for proving our point!D
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Thanks for proving our point!
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Kanye.Elon.Trump.all lives matter.-
Birds of a feather , yo.
All of your soliloquies sound like Charlie Brown’s teacher. “ wah wah wah wah wah”. Very effective communicator! Taking notes!
Bahaha just kidding!! But keep screaming crazy into that echo chamber,and keep the weapons out of your home. You’re like one comment away from a red flag law, Bruh. I worry about the safety of those in your orbit.

Xebeche
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Xebeche
1 year ago

THANK YOU SIR

fishkiller
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fishkiller
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Thanks for that Al !
I agree 100%

Timb0D
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1 year ago
Reply to  fishkiller

There’s some logic somewhere in your universe—somewhere.

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Mel Bell
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Oh the irony in people who believe and re-spew nonsensical rants originally told on some dark corner of the internet by this 20-something kid in the Philippines who spends his time banging sex robots…. But yes, my guy, we’re all the “sheeple” 🤔

If I had no shame, I’d start a cult and make millions off these Qs.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Mel Bell

Who is the chesty guy?

Mel Bell
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Mel Bell
1 year ago
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The young buck with the mustache is Q, the chesty guy is his dad, who helps his son come up with all the nonsense. I highly recommend checking out the HBO Docuseries about these two, it’s hilarious (I believe it’s called ‘Q: Into The Storm’ or something along those lines).

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1 year ago
Reply to  Mel Bell

Q is a son of a moob?

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Well…amongst most of the people I know the use of the word “sheeple” is very established and has been for decades. Personally I’ve heard it quite a bit since 1984- the re-election of President Reagan. It might be derogatory but it is also taken as a dismissive fact that humans exhibit certain behaviors- mimicry and flocking- similar to prey animals. these are natural and subconscious behaviors that happen when we do not think independently and use free thought to analyze and debate our actions. These behaviors can be manipulated by those who study them to persuade us en masse to vote or shop against our own interests and even our very own survival! Yes- we are being manipulated at all times by the unscrupulous and immoral to do things that fatten their wallets and thin our own. And once a certain percentage of us are swayed in a particular direction then the flock is sure to follow…despite all rational arguments. “Sheeple” might appear to be a petty put-down but it actually carries a lot of weight behind it since this simple term can condense so much social philosophy into one word. It does come out in frustrated rants sometimes but this is not the fault of the word…it is a symptom of the writer’s frustration at our human behavior- which we still do not generally admit yet we keep doing! We pretend to be an intellectual species, always using thought and debate to guide us and yet we are really a mass of animals moving in animal behavior, guided by those who have figured out the language with which to manipulate and move us. Please do not censor. Please do not ban this word. There is no suitable replacement for this. “Sheeple” and sheeple behavior is at the root of many of our societal problems. And if people feel insulted by being called “sheeple” then I would encourage them to read more, look into thoughts and philosophies that are opposed to their own, speak with others who hold different traditions/religions/customs and expand their mindset…Do Not be a “sheeple”. Evolve and become another frustrated independent- thinker who gets angry and sometimes shouts out “Sheeple!!” Sheeple- You are going the wrong way!!

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I don’t find the word sheeple offensive. Your site and therefore your call, but it’s not a niche phrase as suggested.

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ChefJeff
1 year ago
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By some peoples’ logic, you are either a sheeple for following the leader, or a snowflake for acting on your own impetus. Kind of a false paradigm

Actually
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1 year ago
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That is a great way to put it, thanks.
Usually when people use the word sheeple to me it seems like a way of putting down anyone who might disagree with you in any form.

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1 year ago
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To be fair there are a lot more offensive and personal comments on this thread than “sheeple”. BTW I support your policy regarding personal attacks on fellow commenters and think it should be better enforced. In my humble opinion I think it would encourage people to be less lazy and more thoughtful in their comments.

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1 year ago
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I agree. And I am one who sometimes sinks to personal insults, especially when they do it to me first! But yes- restricting us from personal attacks does make us search for better ways to express our position and actually makes us work more intelligently…to find a more clever way to insult that person LOL! It’s good for us to use our minds and our vocabulary. Poor Kym having to referee this motley crew ha ha…Thanks, Kym!

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1 year ago
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That is a gross over generality. People have few leaders. Most are followers. Independent people are often persecuted. And government is increasingly persecutorial. That’s dangerous., regardless of whether its left or right.Politically, there is no difference between the far right and the far left. Political thought is circular, not linear.We must preserve the right to free speech and fight censorship at all costs, or loose our freedom, And discourage one sided viewpoints and preach individualism as a right.

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1 year ago
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👍

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1 year ago
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Except there seem to be very, very few independent people in comments. It has been a sad lesson learned from the covid pandemic that almost all comments that are not factual can be traced back to some bloody group of websites or another and people are just repeating what they read there without having done much thought about it. Sheeple or Nazi or Sky Daddy or fascist or anti vaxxer or pro jabber – just about any labeled pigeonhole of contempt- is short hand for being done with others as having a rational or interesting point worth debating. How can free speech be useful by expressing nothing but contempt?

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1 year ago
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Maybe in comments on this website or the lost coast outpost. But two liberal Humboldt county websites certainly isn’t the measure of independent thinkers. The first amendment makes no limitations on free speech except in the pornographic and defamation arena, and the latter is inapplicable to public figures absent a showing of malice as well as damage. Censorship based on political opinion should not be tolerated, but unfortunately its increasing. The Epoch Times, criticized herein, was dead on in its excellent coverage of the now confirmed Clinton campaign and fbi effort to publicize the bought and paid for Steele dossier was indeed a lie. Another article was about the origins of covid 19, and was supported by credible evidence. The present article appears naive, but the fact remains there are many bad actors in the marijuana industry, as virtually everyone in this area knows already. In the criticisms herein, most not related to the specific article have not specified the basis for the opinion the Epoch times is never a credible source of information. That goes directly to the point you are making.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Even teens see what a tool the likes of epoch is.

As to
“not specified the basis for the opinion the Epoch times is never a credible source of information.”

Well, that appears to be the standard for too many these days. That there’s actually some accuracies within a story. Mighty low bar there.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Sigh

Well as to the Steele dossier, their article has been proven accurate. The origins of covid has yet to be confirmed. But the article didnt make a conclusion, it was based on the statements of a lady who actually worked in the lab. And the Chinese government has been stonewalling the entire matter. So maybe you and Kym shouldnt be making blanket statements disparaging the publication as a far right conspiracy theory entity.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

There’s just so many sources, even non-partisan sources, of analysis. Here’s just one, by folks who do real digging and analysis. Shows nice far right leaning bent, that Epoch, even beating out Tucker by a smidge. Impressive!

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Country Joe
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1 year ago
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We’ve known for some time, thanks to the efforts of special counsel John Durham, that the Steele dossier was a Clinton-camp fabrication. 
Now we know why the allegations it contained were so lurid, clumsy and (to anyone with an iota of sense) obviously fake.

neonnettle.com › news › 15276-new-york-times-admitsNew York Times Admits Anti-Trump ‘Steele Dossier’ Was Fake

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Reply to  Kym Kemp

Word, online idiot back from Thanksgiven…Is creeple OK

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“Sheeple” is making it into the dictionaries, but there doesn’t seem to be a consensus on it’s meaning…

Except there is a consensus it is derogatory…

One definition is “lemming”…

Another is “compliant”…

Not many antonyms for “sheeple” can be found…

One is “free- thinker”…

I found a celebrity character comparison that rates “sheeple” vs “conspiracist” on alternate scales of 1/100 to 100/100.

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/characters/stats/149/

A 1/100 sheeple compared to a 100/100 conspiracist, and vice versa…

Beth Dutton, for example, was like a 98/100 on the “conspiracist” scale…

That would be the equivalent of a 2/100 on the “sheeple” scale….

Conversely…

Ned Flanders, for example, scored high on the “sheeple” scale…

83.2/100

I guess my point is, at least in this comparison, “conspiracist”, is being used as an antonym, for “sheeple”…

So, at least in this comparison, “sheeple”, and “conspiracists”, would actually be considered opposites, not one and the same…🤷‍♂️

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1 year ago
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Weird. I guess we run in very different circles. If I remember correctly your circle also thought “legalization” would be wonderful, just like the newspapers said……hmmm….

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1 year ago
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👍

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1 year ago
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TL;DR

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1 year ago
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I haven’t spoken to my cousin since he called Obama voters that nasty word, and that was in his first term as president. Guess who I voted for, twice?

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1 year ago
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My down votes aren’t taking. Bigger bummer.

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HotCoffee
1 year ago
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But crankyoldlady and sohumjoe comments are fine?

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1 year ago
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Hail Kym

Lost Croat OutburstD
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Lost Croat Outburst
1 year ago
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My upvotes aren’t “taking.” Bummer.

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In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
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Baaaa Kym baaa. Get your booster yet?

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1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Good rant! And I agree especially with the part about “get the truth out and let the chips fall where they may”. The manipulative lying is done by both DEM and REP and all maintaining power in a narrative built upon twisted morals. The partisan fighting we do between ourselves is wasted energy as most of the elite have more to gain from maintaining each other than in representing us commoners. But let’s get back to this actual article- progressives pushing fake “legalization” only give cannabis over to the same corporate/military/industrial complex that the conservatives support. They are both sides taking away from the people and achieving the same goal- $$$ for the already-wealthy and powerful be it corporate or cartel.

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Except for it was not progressives that pushed the fake legalization. Conservatives saw it as a cash grab, an opportunity for a sin tax. And being completely unethical as they are they had no problem with collecting that sin tax even though they think that smoking cannabis is morally incorrect.

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1 year ago
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Not sure how you would think that conservatives pushed for legalization? seems like a fabricated assumption.

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1 year ago
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Do you consider John Boehner a conservative?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/03/us/politics/john-boehner-marijuana-cannabis.html
How about Paul Ryan?

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1 year ago
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And tax revenue for the government to waste

moviedad
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moviedad
1 year ago
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It’s better for them if we think they’re wasting it.

Country Joe
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1 year ago
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Does this mean the military will have Cannabis Bombs in the future? My maladroit attempt at humor… Let’s not forget that it was a Conservative and Republican President Eisenhower that stated, “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist.”
Eisenhower spoke as someone who had seen the horror and lingering sadness of war, saying that “we must learn how to compose differences not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose.”

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1 year ago
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Trump was a fiasco all by himself

Jeffersonian
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1 year ago

That’s a non sequitor

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1 year ago
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But one of the “sheeple” words I mentioned. Trump too is inevitable short hand for flicking off those who disagree with no effort to understand or explain.

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1 year ago
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Again, no specifics from you. And, a non sequitor.

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1 year ago
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Responding to…”the Russian Trump fiasco now proven false…”
-Al L. ivermectin
Way earlier this morning!(another close call!)

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1 year ago
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TL;DR

No, members of Falun Gong do not deserve to be imprisoned or have their organs stolen. Nobody said they did.

But, they are also a cult with a dubious relationship with the facts and like all religious organizations, the leadership is extremely suspect.

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1 year ago
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Those damn sneaky Quakers. Watch out for those Methodists. Or that damned sneaky Dalai Lama. Not to mention Martin Luther King… Curse them all…

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1 year ago
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I didn’t read past your blasphemy against the FSM. May you be touched by his noodly appendage.

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1 year ago
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R’amen!

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1 year ago
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Word. 9000

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1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

I notice that you didn’t mention FOX. Hahaha. I guess we know your news channel.

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1 year ago
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So, the idea here is to fight “crazy” with more “crazy.” Try the Reynolds extra-heavy BBQ strength foil for your next fedora.

Country Joe
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1 year ago
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On this we agree…”Democrats cannot deal with reality and will crush any dissent for speaking the truth.”

Country Joe
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1 year ago
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That’s what I get for grouping…I’m crushed.

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1 year ago
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Remember Polonius – Brevity is the soul of wit.

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1 year ago

The Epoch Times is a well known fountain of misinformation. I would take every assertion you read or view on line, with them as a source, with a grain of salt.

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1 year ago
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Yes, it’s a rag, but it seems that the press in general has become very partisan for one side or the other. I saw this once explained as 1) in the early years of the Republican the press was hyper-partisan, often evidenced by the papers’ names such as the Podunk Democrat or the Bumsville Republican. 2) As paper pulp, printing costs, and distribution costs declined in the 20th Century, papers tended to try to play it more down the middle in an effort to attract a wider audience which would attract more advertising. 3) As online ads decimated the classified ad revenue stream, and anyone can set up a news site, news outlets have become much more partisan again. These days you have to take all news with a grain of salt.

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Even worse than that, too many “national” news sites have become very slim on news altogether. It doesn’t matter which way they spin, they put up a big photo of something vaguely related to the article, like a stock photo of the Supreme Court Building or a police car or a tree, have a sentence that is a promise of information, full of words like “could mean” or “will look at the issue later” or “not since 2001” or “unexpected report” then an endless rehash of earlier articles. It’s 90% explaining what one bit of info means in the writer’s opinion and 10% fact. Any real information has to be searched out from local sources if interested. And good luck with that especially on international news.

One website after another has gone from a basic list of stories in various categories that can be clicked on to read to random headlines, one after another to be scrolled through, each a with giant stock photo and a line of what it’s about and a bunch of links to past articles. Click, scan, discard repeated as long as can be tolerated. As if McDonald’s had put a news menu in a drive through. Sometimes, when clicked, the writing is so prolix that it’s hard to even tell the point of it. As if their assignment was to write a 500 word essay in school. Are they all independent contributors paid by volume?

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1 year ago
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Why do news programs scream out their headlines like the comet is seconds away?

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1 year ago
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Entertainment makes more money than news, so, news becomes entertainment because one of the general purposes of journalism in the US is to make money. Telling the truth or bringing light to a subject is secondary.

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1 year ago
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It’s like reading papers from mid-1800’s.

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1 year ago
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What you explain has always been the case with newspapers in the US. Objectivity is a myth.

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1 year ago
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Agreed…

Surprised to see Kym acknowledge their sham-reporting-scam-website for a peek at trim/local culture.

They should be carrying Kyms reporting.

They are clout-chasers anyways.

moviedad
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1 year ago
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“Clout-Chasers”!
Like only replying to Elon on Twitter?
Ha!
Or,
“Joe Rogan! When are going to acknowledge our love-baby!?”
JR, “Bro, you’re a dude.”
“Hater!”
That is a great term.
Clout-chaser, not Hater.

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Thanks for proving our point!
1 year ago

Roll out the foil hats, folks!
Btw, Ron was rockin a sick foil hat last week. Best part is… Ron is far less cray than the epoch times and some of the freaks in this comment section!
✌️

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1 year ago

The dude may not know the precise meaning of “trimmigrant” in our local vernacular, but it is absolutely true that some crews have been trafficked. Anyone who employs (or has employed) such a crew, is no better than the slave master(s) who run it.

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1 year ago

BEWARE OF EPOCH TIMES?

Then why would you print this.Are you part of the conspiracy…are you upset your getting shafted by blackmarket.

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1 year ago
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Thanks for the laugh Ms. Kemp.. Just some of the comments made my day..But you must have known this article was going to cause a bit of controversy..
Good for you..

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I too appreciate you posting this article/video. Its not pretty but it is what it has become in Siskiyou and other places. I can understand how someone like Jorge would find it somewhat unbelievable.

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I didn’t watch the video. Frankly I have no time for Epoch News. But how can you not see the connection between having supported illegally activity for decades, with all its continuous and determined frustration of inconvenient labor, tax and land use laws, treating other with respect while they are violating the law just because you have empathy for them as oppressed by government too, and not see how eviscerating the law allows criminals to thrive under your cover, take what they want the way they want and not care about the damage?

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Now this I agree with…

Jorge doesn’t present well, but he is covering a story that needs reporting…

The out-of-control dope farming is exacerbating crime and degradation all over Northern CA, and the government is yawning, while ignoring the needed solutions.

Pot-tax-revenues must be spent on legal controls, but the shadow of Mt Shasta falls on unusual activities.

Visions of a range war, a major military intervention, and a gross exodus from Shasta, Siskiyou and Modoc are flashing through my mind…

The Seniors of Northern California are witnessing lawbreaking on a totally new scale, but the life-cycle of an overproduced product which can basically not be sold at a competitive price, comprises “farming gone wild” and a large social problem which the government will have to deal with.

Minnesota indeed, Butte County is full of Hmong, just like Yuba, Nevada and all down the Central Valley, and, dope is grown by the “about to be broke”, all over California…

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1 year ago

“Visions of a range war, a major military intervention, and a gross exodus from Shasta, Siskiyou and Modoc are flashing through my mind…”
Really!? Do you have any idea why people from Laos came here? Their parents actually fled a real military intervention. Ask them what it was like. Probably nothin like the stress you’re feeling slurping biscuits and gravy at the Black Bear Diner.

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1 year ago

Actually I find “biscuits and gravy “ quite disgusting, and I only eat Oatmeal with Cranberries and Raisins with a banana on top…

Bringing the Hmong, Laotian and Vietnamese to the Country was the biggest mistake made associated with US involvement in Vietnam…

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1 year ago

No it wasn’t. Bringing people in while wallowing in nation self contempt certainly was. How can anyone ask with a straight face newcomers to respect this country while they themselves constantly deride at every turn?

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1 year ago
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Well our Country makes big decisions that affect people all over. Sometimes that decision can be a mistake. It’s not unpatriotic or contemptuous to discuss those decisions.
I’d say if bringing our allied proxy fighters back here instead of abandoning them was a mistake, perhaps the bigger mistake was going out of our way to fight a communist boogie man in Asia. (really just the dying days of colonialism: to ask the French to leave Vietnam equated to “Communism”)… We sent our young men to die for what? The communist tide still swept SE asia, perhaps worse(Cambodia) than if we hadn’t intervened. In any case, now we buy socks and underwear from Vietnam.

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1 year ago

It’s unpatriotic to do nothing else but criticise. Even to the point of hatefulling dismissing those who manage to find even a slight positive.

None of that about Viet Nam was as simple or easy as you imply. It had almost nothing to do with the French except they left a vacuum for China to enter. China supported Viet Nam. It also supported the Khmer Rouge. Same with North Korea. That we buy underwear from Viet Nam has more to do with communist retrenchment in Russia’s Soviet Union, Viet Nam attacking the Khmer Rouge and China invading Viet Nam then the uselessness of the Viet Nam War. Would North Viet Nam be an entity like North Korea without it? Would North Korea be like Viet Nam if there hadn’t been a stalemate? IDK but I do know it is not that simple.

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1 year ago
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“It’s unpatriotic to do nothing else but criticise.”
Agreed!
That, and Perm-on-mon’s opinion about biscuits and gravy….
We’ve found common ground!

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1 year ago

Like many things, radical agenda viewpoints usually contain some small percentage of correct information. However their equally radical opponents use the garbage parts of the radical agenda to discredit the correct information too. What is really needed is an agenda filter. Not agenda filtering.

You know what the difference is between the Epoch Times and Progressive Press Releases? The Epoch times makes good fire starter.

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1 year ago
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The dark art, of correct info sprinkled with a little BS. What it used to be, anyway. Then the internet and advent of the smart-device, the latter of which became the biggest ever hypodermic of BS, straight into the masses. Everyone had access, but it was a new breed of far-right political operative that mastered it. (They learned millions of Americans, hooked for decades on TV and Hollywood, we’re easy targets for injection, for infection, to win elections.). Said operatives knew they could inject not small amounts of bad info, but heaps of it. Worked well enough, for long enough, even scurrying along in alt-media world. But most consumers are learning to reduce their intake, the downside of over consumption just too large. But along will come a new breed of Svengalis, with new flavors, and a mix of old and new millions to eat up. Good fire starter.

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1 year ago

This is total race baiting and fear mongering. Not surprised considering the source.

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1 year ago

The Epoch Times
Newspaper
DescriptionThe Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television. Wikipedia
First issue date: 2000
Owner(s): Epoch Media Group
Founder(s): John Tang
Headquarters: 229 W. 28th St. New York, NY 10001; U.S
Founded: May 20, 2000; 22 years ago
Language: Multiple, mainly Chinese and English

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Yep humboldt
1 year ago

Why would you post this nonsense here and help them get an audience…?

Giant Squirrel
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1 year ago

Agricultural products should be grown on agricultural flatland and not in our rural mountains where other people have located for peace and quiet.
And why is this Biden high level nuclear waste security appointee still on our payroll after being arrested for switching luggage tags and stealing expensive luggage filled with women’s clothes? Was this the most qualified applicant for the job? Woof, woof!

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1 year ago
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Qualifications clearly are irrelevant to this administration. The examples are numerous. When you begin your search for the perfect, most qualified candidate by specifying the only race and gender you’ll consider, you are clearly no longer interested in the highest qualifications and experience.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Maximus

Herschel Walker

Maximus
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1 year ago

What’s your point?

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1 year ago
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The Republicans were trying to look cool and hip in Georgia by finding a black candidate. Obviously his qualifications were only skin deep. I almost feel bad for Walker getting dragged out of a comfy retirement for this! Republicans have become a party of magical, emotional thinking.

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1 year ago

So you feel the need to attempt a redirect toward a Senate candidate rather than addressing the actual issue. And if Walker’s skin color is an issue for you, how do you feel about Warnock? Double standard? Or just racist toward any Black man who steps outside the plantation?

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Read what I wrote! Warnock seems fit for the Senate. What qualifications does Walker have? It’s not racist to point out that it appears Republicans thought they’d have a popular candidate in Walker, but he sounds so incompetent when he talks it seems they couldn’t see past his outward appearance. Miss Lindsey sure likes him!

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1 year ago

Apparently you can’t see past his outward appearance either. Not sure who Miss Lindsey is.

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1 year ago
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“When you begin your search for the perfect, most qualified candidate by specifying the only race and gender you’ll consider, you are clearly no longer interested in the highest qualifications and experience.”
Wisdom by Maximus

Maximus
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1 year ago

Exactly. Look at the Biden administration and you’ll find numerous examples.

Country Joe
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1 year ago

Hershel volunteered but sadly he’s not part of the establishment…

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1 year ago
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Well-stated, Maximus…

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1 year ago
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Men who steal women’s clothes are very deviant. This guy stole a woman’s underwear and clothes in a place where he could be easily caught on camera and id’ed. He has so far kept the clothes and the bag. It is a major red flag and it is disturbing that he has national security clearance and is a sick underwear thief.

But you know, if he steals women’s clothes all the time it would explain his wardrobe choices.

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1 year ago
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Deviance is now the norm. Groomers are found in close proximity to children performing their “art”.

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1 year ago
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Not the most qualified and a criminal. Must be removed from the government payroll immediately.

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Neverlayup
1 year ago
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Right! This non identifying theif should be in jail!

Giant Squirrel
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1 year ago

Biden’s Illegal Immigrant Invasion allowed 73,000 “gotaways” to enter the US in November snuggling who knows what, in addition to hundreds of thousands claiming “asylum”. Might we anticipate many terrorists and known criminals amongst those avoiding contact with officials?
Iillegitimate Joe did that!

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1 year ago
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I actually relocated here to drive large loud tractors and run giant pumps, and harvest all the APPLES, and prune the redwoods while thumping Humperdinck.

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1 year ago

Biden has sent the air marshalls to the border to serve lunch to illegal immigrants and police bathrooms, be ready to protect your own next airflight
Iillegitimate Joe did that!

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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Ford, Carter, and Reagan were president when we offered asylum to our proxy ground pounders in South East Asia.

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1 year ago
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That’s a lot of snuggling.

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1 year ago
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All of the conservative growers and dairy operations depend on taking advantage of the immigration status of illegal aliens. None of them support securing the border.

Giant Squirrel
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1 year ago
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Ought to have a temporary worker program admitting millions but $10,000/day fine for employing illegals

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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

I agree. A functional system of immigration would mean the best and brightest would have a reasonable expectation of being able to come here legally, by the book, being able to enjoy the privilege, and being subject to any restrictions citizenship allows.

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1 year ago
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Just simply not allow a business to deduct wages paid to people not legally authorised to work when filing taxes.

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1 year ago
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That’s because we just fly in on airliners.

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1 year ago

It’s the great schism. Those that truly know the industry and those that want to control the industry. It’s no secret that “mountain” justice exists and has forever in Nor Cal. Money n drugs = thugs. Individual or gooberment groups thugging is thugging. Sure there may be individuals involved that are legitimate, but the thugs worm their way in and take it over on every level. Trim tramps, trim hoes. That was the original base. The girls that would come around just in time for the weed and the money. Screw the boss cause a lot of family drama, party all night scene. Never really were any outsiders that ran anything and we didn’t mess with the boss or you could wind up in the trunk! Now in our more modern debacle freaks try to fill the boots of a lost legacy. They havent got a clue how to do it. Cute story Jorge but ya got a lot twisted in the wrong direction.

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1 year ago

After I ended that comment I thought about it a little bit longer it also used to be quite an honor to get invited to a trim scene. Very tight-lipped not everyone was welcomed in specific requirements. One being don’t screw the boss but many did and wound up getting in a lot of trouble . You’d be kicked off a crew pretty quick if the Mrs found out that you were messing with her man . You didn’t talk about it if the word got out you wouldn’t have any more work. Typically 6 to 10 ladies, maybe a few guys doing buck n hang. These much larger Crews that camped or stayed in town permanently was not really a thing until around 2006 and after. ❤

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moviedad
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1 year ago

In some cases it was wannabe’s unknowingly inviting real, tough-ass killers into their nest.

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1 year ago

Just did a Google maps flyover of Dorris and Siskiyou area.. 2022 pictures.. WTF.? I see nothing like what is described.. When I go to good old Trinity Pines near Hayfork, it’s nothing but huge grows.. I ee absolutely nothing similar in the Dorris area.. More needs to be looked at here..

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1 year ago
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Hey let’s leave the Pines out of this. Thanks

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1 year ago

No mention that CAMP is still raiding illegal grows.. He cites one murder in Mendocino County, none in Siskiyou and fails to document all his other acts of criminality.. I think a great deal of his report is invented.. Newsom doesn’t want to be seen as tough on crime..? Bad for his image.? Are you kidding me.?

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1 year ago

The story, the reporting and what is actually happening — all a shit show. Feel bad for so many involved and impacted.

I so love where I am now.

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1 year ago
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Hey! Did you guys get dumped on yesterday? I bet it’s beautiful there.

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1 year ago
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We get to see the snow looking up at the mountains, but don’t often get much over a few inches on the ground here. I call it the best of both worlds.

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1 year ago
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That’s incredible!

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1 year ago
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From the house this morning

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1 year ago
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There’s some snow there, kinda expected more. But I suppose the big storm will be coming the next couple days.

Country Joe
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1 year ago
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Beautiful

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Ben Schill
1 year ago

When I see fabrications coming from Ace Ventura, I become deeply suspicious of the entire report..

moviedad
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moviedad
1 year ago
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Ace’s data is not always perfect. But, his heart’s in the right place.

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1 year ago

Epoch Times

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1 year ago

Having spent a fair amount of time recently in Siskiyou Co and cleaning up a former grow site I can understand some of the problems.
I’ll agree that Jorge could be a bit more polished the issues he is raising are real. What strikes me is how so many people in Humboldt were horrified that the farmers drew some water to save there livestock yet seems to somehow ignore the stealing of water to feed illegal grows.
He made a good point toward the end as to how this is a major problem for legal growers and how prop 64 needs a rethink.

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1 year ago
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Trashy growers are terrible. I’ve cleaned up a few sites, also cleaned up some properties that were not grows and were in terrible shape also. Anyway, what bothers me is the political blame game. We are all divided enough, this kind of garbage doesn’t help.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Scott Greacen

For the comments.

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1 year ago
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I just revoked my friends of eel river allegiance based upon your comment

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1 year ago
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It’s good to hear/read other opinions and reports. Even if you don’t like the source, which I understand, it’s still good to monitor the enemy regularly.

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Reply to  Scott Greacen

Ok Scott! As if you haven’t devolved into shrill hyperbole when having to think of weed, or anything South of Arcata. Tell us again what you “know” about Panther Gap! I remember a lot of nonsense about how imaginary grows in Bull Creek dried it up during summer. Somehow these trespass grows on State property, big enough to dry up the creek were never discovered. There must still be cartels (cue dark music) growing in Bull Creek because it still goes subterranean in summer!

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  Scott Greacen

For the same reason RHBB reports far left trash…Fair and honest.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
1 year ago

The Epoch times has some excellent articles. Apparently, the author of this one is limited in knowledge. But it does show that the industry attracts a lot of evil.

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The Real Brian
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1 year ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

And Dr. Suess. has some very happy patients.

🤣🤣🤣

willow creeker
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1 year ago

Plenty of conservatives in on the feeding frenzy a few years back. One example of a local lawyer whose name rhymes with mill marnum and a big tract of land in the mattole valley come to mind.
Money doesn’t have a political party or much of a conscience.

mark
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mark
1 year ago

Cannabis Industry Impacts to the Environmental health of the Illinois River Basin & the Community Well-Being – Illinois Valley Soil and Water Conservation District

Impact Report_Cannabis & Water.pdf – Google Drive

There was some pretty good money made by locals when ganja was deregulated in Oregon. Tax receipts were of course…lacking…as the industry is generally a cash business. There was one credit union in Salem that would bank ganja cash. Fed problems… bank charters and scheduled drugs.

Eventually, the banking end of the industry gets rough. Most all the growers I know that quit… either didn’t like how rough the people were that handled the buys, they could not grow “organic” and compete with the organized/funded, or the price just dropped so far down, better off growing other crops.

The Hispanic/South American workers here in the Rogue Valley often work under horrible conditions. A few of them have been murdered. Some of them get treated ok. There is no housing for them. Basically, the ganja industry is importing more homeless poverty folks..with the illegal immigration workers. Sheriff doesn’t jail them, ICE doesn’t bother them..basically, they are given a ride by authorities to Interstate 5.

Just how it is.

Villian
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Villian
1 year ago

The “Epoch Times” is little more that the Amerikkkan version of “Der Strumer”, the propaganda rag Goebbles used to lure sixty million Germans to their destruction.
It’s wall to wall racism, paranoia and calls for violence with a connection to reality that’s tedious at best.
That is how propaganda works. It’s meant to keep people anxious and at each other’s throats. The comment section here is proof of its’ effectiveness.

The “Epoch Times” does have a few uses though. Birdcage liner, hamster bedding and kindling come to mind.

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Dave Kirby
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1 year ago

Epoch Times is as extreme right as any internet nutball blog quoted here.

Mark
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Mark
1 year ago
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“Farthest Right”
Amerika

Not quite racial…but not diversity or equity planks. Some times Brett Stevens has some good insights on how “tribal” groups get along…or don’t. He seems to struggle with the changes that come from previously ordered societies with immigration and the mixing of traditions and peoples via the ease of travel…..become non ordered societies. When immigration causes more poverty… tents on the streets..drugs. Anyway.. always the competition for the few jobs also.
They are over there with the “it’s ok to be white” …which is ..one imagines.. is the counter to “children’s drag queen reading hour”.
The migration to like kind people’s red/blue state is an example of how people deal with change they can’t absorb. The difference between Portland Oregon and Baker City Oregon.
Just how it is.

Country Joe
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1 year ago

Due to the lack of OBiden’s border security, 400,000 criminal illegal aliens invade our nation in only the last 2 months and 4 million since he became POTUS. Many are from gangs and cartel members preying on innocent American citizens. The flow of fentanyl coming across our southern border killed 120,000 Americans in the last year alone. Anyone that voted democrat for OBiden and Newscum is directly responsible for the chaos, rapes, murders, human trafficking and flow of drugs across our southern border.

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1 year ago
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I haven’t heard of any sca-wee migrant caravans since president Brave Capable B-list Celebrity. Don Jon used to keep us appraised of how easy it was to just waltz right into the Country. Maybe the caravans turned around when they realized Americans are forced to be polyamorous communists now, thanks to Biden’s dictates.(AKA Obiden; to indicate the nefarious connection to former BLAAAHCK President Barack Obama)

Country Joe
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1 year ago

OBiden’s conduct at the southern border is an impeachable offense…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

What really happened with the Hunter Biden story suppression by Twitter will be published on Twitter at 5pm ET!
🍿

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1 year ago
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Fox news is fightn mad nobody cares!

Country Joe
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1 year ago

Fox News has been number one in the ratings for years now. Informed Americans watch Fox.

Just a guy
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Just a guy
1 year ago

In the search to claim Fake News, this is the B.S, we get. What happened to common sense and rational thinking.

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  Just a guy

There’s nothing fake about Hunters laptop or the evidence and information it contains.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Go ahead…tell us

Country Joe
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1 year ago

Our biased and corrupt DOJ and FBI will be forced to tell you all about it soon.

Mark
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Mark
1 year ago
Farce
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1 year ago
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Bummer. Used to enjoy the kind and gentle scene of the old Ruch Barter Fairs. Y’know- before it was all about growing huge amounts of weed and stacks of cash and greedy assholes greenrushing everywhere about these parts…

Hayforker
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1 year ago
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Dude I would goto the barter fair as a kid. Basically forgot about it after all these years. Thanks for reminding me!

Mark
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Mark
1 year ago
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Word is that a Hispanic female’s ID etc was found on Sterling Ck Trail. Got the cadaver dogs out… I always enjoyed the llamas in the pasture there at the bottom of the hill by the store. Good vibe..

Hayforker
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Hayforker
1 year ago
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Oh shit, not good.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

16% of Biden voters would have switched their vote if the laptop story wasn’t unconstitutionally suppressed. Therefore with Twitter’s release today of internal documents of censorship leading up to the electio , Joe Biden is demonstratably our Illegitimate President

willow creeker
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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

You are nothing if not….consistent. Hey, please give it a rest. It’s tiresome.

Giant Squirrel
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1 year ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Recent poll results 79% of electorate believe the election outcome would have been different if laptop story not suppressed. Uor friend Creeker is apparently amongst the 1 in five or simply believes “by any means”

willow creeker
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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

I definitely think Hunter Biden is a morally compromised person, as many sons of powerful people are. I doubt his influence peddling rivals that of Uday and Qsay (Eric and Don jr) but even if it does rise to the level of criminality, and doesn’t reflect well on Joe, I surely would still vote for him over Trump any day, and so would many Americans.
But my point, was, please stop making every comment thread into a Biden thread. It’s tiresome. And you are not changing anyone’s minds.

Sigh
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Sigh
1 year ago
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Ah. It’s Friday Night Folies.

We see you’re citing that 16% number again. Source being a skimpy little poll of, what, 1700 people. As to who conducted that poll (note: this is important in the world of polling-credibility), none other than the Media Research Center (MRS), noted rightnut tool. Cool factoid was MRS was started by ONE very wealthy Anonymous Funder. Can you say utterlywealthy (read: no friend of actual working conservatives), can you say anonymous (hiding, so biased he was).

Some of MRS’ biggest current funders:
Mercer Family Foundation, personal tool of a right wing hedge fund billionaire.
Sarah Scaife Foundation, personal pet project of Scaife family (big banking, oil, aluminum).
Lynda and Harry Bradley Foundation, big givers in nutter world. Why Harry, he once thought the Russians were behind the development of social programs in the USA … but later, one of his own henchman caught dining with Russian fascists.

Lovely group, these folk, no doubt looking out for the little gop voters in the world. So glad they care so much about us.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

More shocking: 60%of democrats would have shifted their vote if it turned out Biden was really Ivana Trump dressed up and re-pronouned. It’s been alleged too that 37.5 % of Republicans in Wyoming(28 voters) would have switched their vote to Cheney, if they believed in true Conservative values, rather than imaginary, mystical thinking about the second coming of Jesus showing up in the form of an Orange NY tv celebrity with the softest hands.

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Timb0D
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1 year ago

I recall when “Better Red than Dead” meant something entirely different than it does now in California’s rural reaches.

AndNowYouKnow
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AndNowYouKnow
1 year ago
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Victims, Boomers and Old hippies whining about Nukes used the term “Better Red Than Dead”.

Victors and Patriots still adhere to the term “Better Dead Than Red”.

Destroy Socialism and Destroy Communism.

onrust88
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onrust88
1 year ago

More idiots on parade.

Neverlayup
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Neverlayup
1 year ago

Sounds like what useless sleepy joe is doing!

Big Rick
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Big Rick
1 year ago

RE: Falun gong note at the bottom

You guys see a swastika and immediately freak out they cry about Nazism. You call this stuff a conspiracy? Did you even research it at all? I mean this even comes off of wikipedia, one of the most undermined and infiltrated supposed information websites on the internet:

“The practice initially enjoyed support from Chinese Communist Party (CCP) officials, but by the mid-to-late 1990s the government increasingly viewed Falun Gong as a potential threat due to its size, independence, and spiritual teachings. By 1999, government estimates placed the number of Falun Gong practitioners at 70 million. During that time, negative coverage of Falun Gong began to appear in the state-run media.”

It sounds like these guys made a religion about spiritualism and helping one another which was against the viewpoint of the Chinese government. That’s why they got so much flack from everybody for years.

By all means you are calling the Buddhist School in Ukiah, which teaches love and compassion and virtue, a Nazi training camp.

😂

HotCoffee
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1 year ago

Matt Taibbi

The files so far……………… in an easy-to-read format.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1598822959866683394.html

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HotCoffee
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1 year ago
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Don’t look for it on CNN or MSNBC, they’ve been neutered by the DCC.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Controversy equals fame. Fame equals money.
Follow the money.

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Steve Koch
1 year ago

I don’t know how good or bad the story is but I admire RHBB for being open-minded enough to print something that makes her side of the political aisle look bad and was sure to bother many of her readers.

I predicted that California Dem elites would not support local mostly white, rural farmers growing mj in our beautiful, environmentally sensitive hills and mountains.

Giant Squirrel
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1 year ago

New poll finds majority of Americans have lost trust in the US military believing the increasingly politicized military leadership of the Biden Regime will order military personnel against US citizens to enforce authoritarian edicts. Although Squirrel appreciates the concern with military leadership, it’s unlikely our patriotic service members will follow unconstitutional orders to act with force against their fellow Americans, the clear role of civilian police rather than military that’s reserved for foreign adversaries.
Iillegitimate Joe did that!

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PenguinnD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

The continuation of the erosion of trust which began in 2018 when 70% reportedly had trust in the military.
Who was President in 2018? Joe Biden, Squirrel?
“Researchers saw a similar drop in confidence in law enforcement in recent years (down from 50 percent to 39 percent).”
Law enforcement is on a state and local level, so who is responsible for this drop?
Complex issues rarely have simplistic answers.

HotCoffee
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1 year ago
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Why Silicon Valley’s WOKE fear MUSK: Musk is an entrepreneur. He does not need a job or money. He beat BIG BANKS with PAYPAL. He beat DETROIT with TESLA. He beat NASA with SPACEX. And he will beat COMMUNIST censorship with TWITTER.
And now……

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/PL_Yk.DvoARpfG0AAwLb0A–/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTE5NDtoPTQwO2NmPXdlYnA-/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2020-12/02246f50-3412-11eb-bfdd-de89f8b3b8b8

Tesla Semi unveiled with tri-motor setup, megawatt charging tech

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1 year ago
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Nothing in the link about a semi truck. I was wondering about the COST!
Describe how Musky “beat Detroit, and big banks” people use Paypal, but has it displaced traditional banking? Tesla has had un precedented success ENTERING the car market, and making inroads against the big three, but outside of LA, Marin, and Austin…not so much…
So then beating “Communist censorship”!? If Communism’s relationship to Twitter was only made up hyperbole, then yes, I guess it would be easy to beat. Why just this morning I beat back marauding communist gnomes by fixing a steely glare upon them. They quickly retreated to the treeline.

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trout fisher
1 year ago

Egad, the Epoch Times is the equivalent of supermarket tabloid National Enquirer. Siskyou county is Republican, there’s plenty of right-wing pot growers. Like Trump buddy, sleazoid Lev Parnass, who owns pot related crap all over CA

Man lover
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Man lover
1 year ago

Can’t believe how twisted people are in humco, pound prices making you reach for anything that gives comfort

Prometheus
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Prometheus
1 year ago

Progressives = Democrats

Californian’s are getting what they voted for…

resident
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resident
1 year ago

LONG LIVE ELON