Prayer and Politics Converge at Anti-Abortion Rally in Eureka Yesterday

A mom stands with her two young-adult kids at the rally, all holding signs reading “I AM THE PRO-LIFE GENERATION” as traffic passed in from the Bayshore mall in Eureka, Sunday October 2, 2022. [All photos by Ryan Hutson]

A mom stands with her two young adult kids at the rally, all holding signs reading “I AM THE PRO-LIFE GENERATION” in front of the Bayshore Mall in Eureka, Sunday, October 2, 2022. [All photos and video by Ryan Hutson]

Yesterday afternoon, a group of about two dozen people gathered in front of Eureka’s Bayshore Mall for the annual silent rally against abortion – a prayer lineup asking for the end to abortion across the nation. The prayer chain opposing abortion took place in 653 various cities and towns from coast to coast, according to the event website. Traffic passed on the busy highway in front of the string of demonstrators offering a steady flow of honks of various tempo and fervor, and several passing shouts of disapproval with the occasional middle finger. 

The religious pro-life group advocated strictly in favor of a “right to life” stance which asserts that “life begins at conception,” despite there being no scientific consensus on that point. 

Below is video livestreamed on Facebook from the event.

[Readers who can’t see the video showing our livestream above should be able to view it at this link: https://www.facebook.com/RedheadedBlackbelt/videos/842823436727427 ]

Life Chain members believe that the clock of life starts ticking at conception, and that every “viable” pregnancy should be carried to term – finding no exceptions for rape or incest. 

Bruce Campbell, introduced as the group’s designated “spokesman,” explained that the fellow church-goers are in favor of a national prohibition on abortion, only making an exception for cases where the mother would otherwise die, such as with a non-viable pregnancy, he said. Campbell explained that the group is praying for an end to abortion, and that “all those who have been touched by abortion would find healing,” adding “…we believe the source of that healing is Jesus Christ.”  

Referring to the group’s stance against abortion in case of rape, Campbell suggested that rape was not a very common circumstance, but, he was not able to elaborate when asked what data he was aware of pertaining to the frequency or infrequency of rape.  According to RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network), “1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed, 2.8% attempted). About 3% of American men—or 1 in 33—have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.”  

Abortion is the Loving option reads a sign at a prayer vigil in Eureka.

“Adoption the loving option,” reads a sign at the prayer chain.

When asked if a rape victim would be expected to carry a pregnancy to term, assuming the pregnancy was “viable” by medical standards, Campbell stated, ‘Yes’, and added that adoption was available as a fail-safe. 

Royce Dunn, founder of the Life Chain in the late 1980’s, wrote many resources to guide local leaders as the movement expanded.  The group’s website, offering materials for local faith leaders to source from, states “Life Chain strives to use peaceful, prayerful signage that is not graphic or political.” Official signage approved for the national event includes a multitude of options, most of them referencing Christianity. The approved slogans noted on the website, many of which were seen at the rally, included “ABORTION KILLS CHILDREN,” “JESUS FORGIVES AND HEALS,” “ADOPTION: THE LOVING OPTION,” “LORD, FORGIVE US AND OUR NATION,” “ABORTION HURTS WOMEN,” and “THE PILL & IUD also KILL CHILDREN.”

Two of the signs available for participants to hold at the anti abortion GATHERING

Two of the signs available for participants to hold.

In the wake of the Supreme Court decision overturning women’s reproductive rights in at least 12 states, the long-held religious belief that abortion is sinful may contribute to deepening political divides.  Pro-Choice advocates for abortion and women’s reproductive care contend that access to contraception is critical to healthcare, and to women’s rights, but the Life Chain movement believes that contraception is potentially assisting in murder of unborn babies, and therefore are not promoting birth control, but rather focusing on pregnancy care. 

Not all of those who are religious are anti-abortion, Clergy For Choice, a local group of religious leaders including several denominations of faith, advocates for women’s reproductive rights to include abortion, and attends local rallies in support of Pro-Choice politics. A member of Clergy for Choice, Rabbi Naomi Steinberg said at a recent rally celebrating Roe vs. Wade prior to the SCOTUS overturning the 50 year legal precedent, “when abortion was established as right many decades ago, religious leaders were at the forefront of that movement, because we recognize the gross injustice that happens when people are forced to follow through on pregnancies that they cannot accommodate in their lives.” Rabbi Steinberg added, “this is especially a burden for the poor and people of color.”  

Aside from the array of disgruntled gestures or profane shouts coming every so often from the passing traffic, no real opposition to the anti-abortion surfaced.  One counter-protestor, a passerby who stopped to take photos and declare his stance as pro-abortion, smashed a cigarette between his fingers and tossed it over the fence as he stated defiantly to Life Chain protesters standing nearby that he was “pro abortion” and that he was there to support freedom of speech.  

Wearing a hat reading “KILL YOUR LOCAL PEDOPHILE” a man who was not with the main group attended to support the cause, and held a Right to Life sign provided by the Life Chain organizers. [All photos by Ryan Hutson]

Wearing a hat reading “KILL YOUR LOCAL PEDOPHILE,” a man who was not with the main group attended to support the cause, and held a Right to Life sign provided by the Life Chain organizers. Next to him another anti-abortion supporter held an American flag. Both men were masked and hid their faces as they were being photographed. [All photos by Ryan Hutson] 

While the prayerful protesters stood with signs referencing religion and family, there were a handful of community members among the parishioners who showed up to support the anti-abortion cause from a political standpoint. One man wearing a mask waved a flag, while another, similarly masked, was wearing a hat reading, “KILL YOUR LOCAL PEDOPHILE” while holding a sign covered with an American flag and the words “Life…the first INALIENABLE RIGHT.”

They clarified that they were not part of the prayer chain, but they were anti-abortion.

When speaking with the man wearing the provocative hat, we noted that the phrase was likely to raise eyebrows. He replied that he perceived there to be many comparably extreme and illegal acts “that the other side doesn’t get held accountable for.”     

As he shrugged off the idea of getting in trouble for an extrajudicial killing of pedophiles, the man waving the flag asserted that a vigilante who caught a pedophile in the act of defiling a child, would be “more than within [their] rights to dispatch that person.” He didn’t address that that hat slogan seems to be directed more broadly than at just those who are actively assaulting a victim.

While we were conversing with the pair, the spokesperson for the initial group, Bruce Campbell, approached and politely noted that not all those gathered at the event held the same views as the prayer chain organizers. He preferred to keep the event spiritual and focused on their perceived views of the Bible. 

Though the religious group and the political pair did not agree on some aspects of what constitutes life that could not be terminated, they both still had the same core belief that abortion is wrong.   

 

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1 year ago

The pro-forcing 10 year olds to have their father’s baby after he rapes them because Jesus says so people should go behind the mall and actually do something Jesus-y instead of standing around looking like hypocrites and assholes.

Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
1 year ago
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You do realize that America is founded on Judeo Christian principles and Americans are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as endowed by their creator, right? Endowed by their creator, hmmm, what is that referring to? Inconvenient facts really tend to piss the progressives snd leftists off because it diminishes their self important power grabbing nature making them realize they have no control over anything but their own life and nobody else’s. And I love it! Gaia is not yo momma.

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Permanently on Monitoring
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Church ladies do not belong in between other women and their healthcare needs.

Belief in an Omnisciescent, Ever-Living Invisible Being who also Controls Everything, makes about as much sense as a Sound-Bath Healer/Yoga Teacher who refers to herself as a:

Happiness Engineer / Wellness Architect / Energy Alchemist 

Women should have access at will to Healthcare Services, and Churches do not belong in Hospitals or Governments.

Believe what you want, and Peace be With You…

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suspence
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Wait, you’re talking about God or religion as factual? No, that’s why it’s called faith, because there is nothing factual about religion. Sorry for that inconvenient fact.

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In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
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You believe in the current money system. You exchange your life’s energy for pieces of paper just because a government entity told you that it’s worth something. You have “faith” that when you bring that paper to the store that the clerk will “believe” it has value as well and exchange that paper for produce. You cling to your “faith” in paper, that it will be worth something, even though the current administration is destroying the “value” of that paper that you have “faith” in. You get up everyday “believing” that the paper is still worth something.

That’s a lot of faith and you are placing it in people, people who fail us all the time. Maybe you should look to how many inanimate objects you have faith in, how many crappy people you have faith in, and examine why you do before you ridicule others about what they have faith in.

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1 year ago

I trade beans.

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suspence
1 year ago

I didn’t ridicule anyone. I’m pointing out a gross misstatement by Al L. Also, your analogy doesn’t hold water. I get the paper, I get the house or car or groceries or whatever. It’s tangible.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago

false equivalence. I can go to the bank or store with my paper and get the value of that money as printed on it.

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Hey…Kool-aid!
1 year ago
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Don’t drink the kool-aid kids!

Rebecca Dimmick
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Rebecca Dimmick
1 year ago
Reply to  suspence

Sorry, but your the one who doesn’t know the facts about Christ! There are facts and truths in regards to Christ. Christ is not a religion in the first place.

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suspence
1 year ago

Oh my bad, you mean Jesus Christ who was born by the virgin Mary. Good one Rebecca. Al L referred to the “their creator”, I thought that meant God in Christianity. I know Jesus walked the earth, not sure he was born by a virgin or resurrected. If you want to believe that, go ahead, but it is certainly NOT a fact.

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Non-fiction
1 year ago

There is no “factual” evidence that Christ existed in the flesh.
Look it up.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

No. Many of the “founding fathers” were actually Deists, ALI.
Jesus never said anything about abortion. He defended women in the bible. You are a misogynist.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

In many ways America was founded DESPITE Christian principles. Abortion never played into religious principles until quite recently. For most of the last 2022 years you were fairly likely to die before the age of 5.

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Nooo
1 year ago
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There were Christian prohibitions against it documented in the 1300s. In other cultures, such as ancient India, Romans, Greeks, Assyria, Babylonia, documentation exists that abortion was illegal if the father objected. The fetus was considered his property. If he didn’t, the woman was generally free to do what she wanted.
The more women where considered property, the less she was allowed to choose as she wished. However, the fact there were written laws shows it was widely done despite what fathers wanted. Which too has always been true.

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Sara
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

If being forced to birth- regardless of circumstance isn’t a gross violation to one’s right to “life, liberty and happiness” then wtf is???? And you’re gonna have to clarify the substance of the argument of “power grab” of us liberals/progressives. Because not a single one of us spent 50 years to remove an essential right that allows any pregnant American to decide what their life’s trajectory is. The GOP seized the ultimate power grab on half the population.

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
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Too bad for that argument that there are plenty of Democrats throughout history who were anti abortionists.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  Sara

exactly…

Steelhead
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Steelhead
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Religion always has come along with rules , rules usually targeted at taking away the joy’s of life . Rules that
target our souls . Rules that take away from our individuality . Rules that go against human nature . Rules that have
killed culture’s across the world . Rules that have killed languages . Rules that have burned books . Rules that
have burned down sanctuary’s and buried reprieve . Religion has taken away from the worlds so much more that it
has ever provided . Religion is a destructive force created by man . It was created by the minority as a tool
to manipulate the majority . A way to stop revolt , and tranquilize the soul .Religion looks good on paper but the
realities are so much more dark .

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1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

You do realize we also have the freedom of religion , and even the Bible talks about abortion. This is not pro life it’s forced birth its well known that a fetus created from incest will more then likely have some kinds of genetic malfunctions. Further more if life is so important what about all of “gods creatures ” why are they not protesting slauter houses . The founders also were very clear about separation of church and state. Ask yourself do you really believe the rich, the politicians are going to be forced to follow these laws , absolutely not and we all know it this is just for the poor. We have also seen a uptick in religious leaders talking about how women need to kept out of higher education and jobs like Healthcare, engineering and science some have been calling us witches and how we need to be burned at the stake again. What better way to achieve this goal then forced birth.

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David Swanson
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Well, not according to the Deists who wrote the Constitution, but why read it and find out you do not know what you are talking about. Did you know that Gods taught his only son that “Life begins at the first breathe”. That is likely why even though abortion was not uncommon BCE there is no mention of it in the Bible.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  David Swanson

How do you know what “God” taught his son? Where in the bible does it say that?

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Dano

It’s when God breathes life into Adam in Genesis. *duh*

Alethia
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1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

You are ignoring The People who were and are here before colonization. Shame on you.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  Alethia

It is typical of the religious…

trout fisher
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trout fisher
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

“A lighthouse is more useful than a church.” Benjamin Franklin
“Christianity is the most perverted system to have ever shone upon man” Thomas Jefferson
You are mistaken, America was not founded on judeo christian principles

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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  trout fisher

That is really selective- Benjamin Franklin was known for his womanizing and alcoholism despite pronouning that chastity and temperance were fundamental to morality. Thomas Jefferson pronounce slavery to be a moral depravity yet accumulated slaves at a monstrous rate.

John Adams, on the other hand, owned no slaves even though he married into a slave owning family, and is now admired for his respect for women well in advance of his times, said-
“…while it is rioting in rapine and insolence, this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world; because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion.”

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

That is a lie. It was founded on liberty and democratic principals which is the antithesis of religion.

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onrust88
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

You guys always conveniently forget about the separation of church and state clause in the Constitution. Idiots on parade see God everywhere even in the Constitution where it is not mentioned. Actually, America was founded by people who understood how important it was to have freedom from religion. The creator was mentioned in the Declaration of Independence but not the Constitution. They are separate documents. Methinks you enjoy pissing off the progressives and liberals who actually read more than obtaining truth or understanding. It is the conservatives who insist on taking away our freedoms and subjecting them to the whims of cheap religion and expensive Capitalism.

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Nooo
1 year ago
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Nowhere any early reference to the founding of the Constitution is there mention freedom “from religion.” Only freedom “of religion.” The separation if church and state is to protect religion from the state and not to protect the state from religion. What kind of an education must a person have to think that was the purpose of separating church and state? We are doomed by current educational ideology who can even get that right.

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Sawanobori
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Remember Kansas! These folks go way beyond abortion, they want your condom and no diaphragms, pills or IUDs. Forget tubal ligation or vasectomy the Sperm and Egg Police will see to that

Country Joe
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1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Spot on. The left is kvetching.

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Non-fiction
1 year ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

Incorrect Al.
This country was founded by a strong secularly focused plurality of religious and atheistic viewpoints.

Lookup who signed the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

Stop with the bullshit wishful revisionist claptrap

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
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“Stop with the bullshit wishful revisionist claptrap” says the person leaning on their own massive “bullshit wishful revisionist claptrap.”

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1 year ago
Reply to  guest`

Jesus of Nazareth never took on abortion.. he would have been out behind the Mall with food or something helping those who were born into tough situations.

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago
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Toilet paper is more useful than a church.

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
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Why would anyone think such nasty invective makes them look better than those they apply it to? Frankly it’s the same human defect to spread hate on religion as those who use religion to spread hate on others. It is the same pathetic self indulgence in both.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

I use toilet paper every day. It is more useful than a church.

Vective
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Vective
1 year ago
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Peace & love new age hippies who support and affirm life choices don’t fit into the tidy, neat boxes you have laid out. What now?
Not all longhairs support the leftist agenda, join covens, or condone distortions of reality.
Live like everyone is watching. Make choices you won’t regret. Forgive like it isn’t insane to do so.

The Real Brian
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1 year ago

Over 30,000 abortions per year in the US are from rape.

Fuck the prayer chain. Yall suck.

Adrienne Floreen
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1 year ago

If you were at this protest, please talk to me. You are going the wrong way. Look, idiots, I am pro choice, but that doesn’t mean I like abortion. I am also that non-viable fetus you are talking about. I was born with a “fatal” birth defect that many people have abortions if they find their fetus has! If you want women not to have abortions, you shouldn’t try to make abortion illegal because some women actually need abortions. Yes, they NEED them! For a laundry list of reasons. So if you want to stop women who don’t “need” an abortion from having one, here’s a few suggestions. First get men to immediately act excited, overjoyed, and run out and get their unemployed asses jobs when the woman they’re f’n says she’s pregnant now. No more of that “so are you gonna KEEP IT” blabbing. Make sure you tell her parents that this sentence is also now outa the question. Then make sure that if she wants to, she can stay at home during her pregnancy (meaning a solid house, not home in the tent) and have enough food to eat and the daddy or someone he hired there to help her as much as she needs. That will prevent a lot of abortions. You can also say one sentence that I have said to 5 women who were pregnant and confided in me that they wanted an abortion, it’s “don’t do it if you think you will regret it later,” because most women who want abortions are actually a bit morally conflicted and actually think it’s a baby they are killing because they have to. So yes, you can be both pro choice and pro life if you understand humans and their nature and the reasons for their behavior. You people make me sick. You aren’t helping women or babies. You should direct your energy in a different direction, if you just stopped trying to make abortion illegal and actually spent your time/money helping women not need/want to have them you’d do more good than harm, but the laws you are trying to pass will harm women trying to get pregnant with IVF and women who tragically find out their pregnancies are ectopic and awful stuff like that, you’re just throwing time and money at harming the women you claim to wanna help. I suggest you watch the videos I made about the overturning of roe/wade on my YouTube channel, you might get a different perspective because you’re all so up in your own club it’s likely you’d never, in person, converse with the likes of me.

Seth
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Seth
1 year ago

My wife and and I are pro-life and we adopted in addition to our own kids but we are strongly pro-choice (the right and freedom for a woman to make her own decision).

Those folks with the signs are just anti-abortion and down to the gritty, all about removing the freedoms and rights from others.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
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Killing someone is not a right.

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1 year ago

I always assumed the 1911 in your handle refers to the 1911 model auto loader handgun. A hand held tool used for sending a lead projectile out to a target at high speed, primarily to kill it.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
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hahahaha. Good one!

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago

Yet killing women by restricting their access to health care by government decree does seem pretty righteous in your book. The idiocy is thinking abortions so not occur even If decreed illegal. Such laws just make it riskier. But what the heck. They’re only women.
Real delusional to make a rigid, across the board exception for women in the general “government bad, don’t tread on me” types philosophy. Makes it clear what the real thinking is. Treading on not-me is perfectly fine. In fact treading on not-me is exactly what is wanted. Practically a meme in real life.

lol
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lol
1 year ago

a fetus is not someone.

Alf
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Alf
1 year ago
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A fetus is more of a someone than the violent criminals most of the pro choice crowd refuses to abort through capital punishment.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Alf

Not until you get baptized! Slow your roll there bud. SkyMaster6000 ain’t got no time for you unless you got baptized.

another guest
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another guest
1 year ago

your buddy in the picture thinks its his right to –

“kill your local pedophile”

too bad your old pervy uncle eddie decided to hide his face…
maybe so his own vicitims wont identify him

btw dude, calling yourself 1911 really doesnt drive good message of christ of peace love and forgiveness message home, unless youre actuall not a christian??????

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Dano
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Dano
1 year ago

It isn’t a “someone.”

robash141
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robash141
1 year ago

If you’re so got up about the “sanctity of life” why do you have a threatening blog handle.

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago

How simple are the ideas of anti abortionists. That one magic rule of morality works no matter what… And that they are the ones to make up that rule. And, like so many aspects of the idea that women are not allowed to decide for themselves about much of anything, that the proper “spokesman” for the annunciation of that rule is someone who is never going to pay with his life or future for the imposition of that rule. If his rule kills his wife, the next rule is that he needs to go out and get another wife.
In fact, that was the first example of that philosophy in action I ever saw. A friend of my mother had 11- no twins, all single births- children and the 12th one killed her. They used to be so cute going for walks- the tall husband heading up the line and the children following along in graduated size from oldest down to youngest with the wife at the end holding onto her latest. For awhile I watched the family, after the mother’s death, continue their daily walks like ducks but without the mother bringing up the rear. But within a few months, the wife’s replacement took up the last place because, of course, raising then 12 young children and working to support them was impossible for the man alone. The result for her was her death. The result for him was a new- surprise, surprise- wife half his age. And that was “right to life”… Just not for her.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

These christian men just want to wear their wives out with childbearing until they are dead so they can replace them with a younger model to do it all over again. They don’t expect men to take responsibility for financially or emotionally supporting their kids. They only care about controlling women.

If they cared about children they would adopt. If they really thought every fertilized egg was a baby they would insist on each and every IVF produced embryo was implanted and born and they would VOLUNTEER for that. But it isn’t about embryos or babies that already exist needing homes and we all know that.

And they will never go behind the mall and welcome the sick, the hungry, and the strangers over there.

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
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Oh quit It. If you want to look for men with multiple wives producing multiple children, there are plenty of examples of that in both non Christian religions and among those without religion at all. There was one man in our area with 63 (last I heard) acknowledged children paying no child support and with no marriages at all.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
1 year ago

Let’s pray Biden drops his green policy so people can afford fuel to get to the clinic. Let’s pray for Bidens mental health to hold out 2 more years, could you have found an older guy? Ridiculous.

Me
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Me
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

And there you go again…off topic as usual.

Trump 5150
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Trump 5150
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

At least Joe (according to you) had a measurable amount of “mental health” going in…unlike his predecessor! Zero, nada, goose egg!

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Grow up. Biden has zero to do withy energy prices.

Alf
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Alf
1 year ago
Reply to  Dano

Back on subject. Joe is, however guilty of conspiracy to commit mass murder. He talks a lot about his demands to keep murdering babies. Definitely not my POTUS. He is just garbage that hasn’t made it to the landfill yet.

BigRick
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1 year ago

All you people arguing about stupid politics for absolutely no reason when we all need to come together as a community to physically remove the pedophiles.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
1 year ago
Reply to  BigRick

Killing babies isn’t political, it’s wrong.

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago

Killing women is wrong. Worse is telling a woman she is expendable. Worse than even that is telling her she had no voice in the matter. And even worse again is telling her that she’s too stupid, immoral or unloved to be allowed to decide what morality is.

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

Well, taking away a woman’s right to her own assigned bathroom, taking away her right to play all womens sports, sharing locker rooms with biological males, among other rights stripped from women has set this precedent that women are expendable. The woke folk set this up. They can’t even define a woman. I can- woman means “womb of man”. I know personally that my wife hates unisex bathrooms because she has to sit on a pissed on toilet seat. Biological males are smashing records in womens sports, is that fair? Let’s not forget that planned parenthood was created to cull the black population. Personally, I am pro choice with limits and exceptions for rape and incest.

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Xebeche
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Either you have seperate gender bathrooms in your house or YOU are pissing on the seat.

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  Xebeche

Cute, but we don’t have bathrooms at our house. We have an outhouse, and I piss outside in nature. Obviously, I was talking about public bathrooms.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Xebeche

Some homeless people don’t have a bathroom to use. Since you are open to anyone using your bathroom could you hand out maps and hours you are willing to let anyone in your bathroom at home.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Thank you for noticing women are losing ground and rights.

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
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👍🏻

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Some of this may be true (not the origin of the word but like in many things, assuming lead to misunderstanding) but then it has nothing to do with the issue of abortion. Self righteousness over abortion long preceded women’s sport regulation, locker rooms or even bathrooms. If women are disrespected because of “wokeness” as in gender self identification and that lead to the current fiasco, then they would be the ones who opposed abortion. But it’s just the opposite. You can’t logically get to blaming “wokeness” for anti abortionists.

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

I agree with your last statement. I was blaming wokeness for the erosion of womens rights, not for anti abortionists. However I do stand by my definition of a woman. Unless you can come up with a better one…

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Yes, wokeness is a real problem when it comes to women’s rights. Men are not women even when they say so, even when they take hormones, even when they get their penis inverted. Men are not women and we should all stop playing along with a delusion at best and a disgusting fetish at worst. Protect women are girls from sex pests and creeps.

I doubt Planned Parenthood is equipped to defend women’s rights anymore because they think anyone “who feels that way” is a woman now and your money you donate to them will also be spent on puberty blockers for kids, hormones for creepy men, and various other things that Planned Parenthood has branched off into. If a transwomen demands a pap smear despite not having a cervix to get cancer the clinic will play along with the perv and give him a “smear”. Woke!

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  guest`

This is a non-issue. Grow up.

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Dano

It’s a waste of resources better spent on women and it is making a doctor or nurse play along with a pervert. You will excuse anything as long as it doesn’t impact you as a man.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

False equivalence and wrong.

onrust88
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onrust88
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Must be real tough on her at home.

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Yes. I want bathrooms for women who don’t identify as women because they don’t need to because they are actually female.

And I’d like the sex pests who claim they identify as women to go back to the men’s room because the men still have a bathroom to themselves.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago

They are not babies!!!

BigRick
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1 year ago

If you can’t see how this is being used as a political bargaining chip and a pawn in some Grand game then you need to open your eyes because you’re about to lose the game.

Farce
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Farce
1 year ago
Reply to  BigRick

Death penalty for pedophiles…Now is that something we can finally all get behind together?. Or….oh here come the Misplaced Compassion People with some argument about why it’s not nice….

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Name*
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Nobody likes pedophiles! I doubt there’s as many as some people think. Obviously pedophilia was chosen as the Democrats vice because it’s universally disgusting. It’s so over the top that the obsession over it by some Trump supporters is almost funny. Bannon wouldn’t have gotten out the troops by saying “they like weed and hot chocolate”. If you are worried about aliens probing you, that could be stressful. You can relax a bit if you find out aliens have never made it here, and are unlikely to be a life form willing to probe you. So far the politician doing the most pedophilia has been Republican Representative Matt Gaetz.

HottCoffee
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HottCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Name*

You’re behind the times,

February 5, 2020

Read more at: https://www.shethepeople.tv/blog/rebranding-pedophiles-minor-attracted-people/

Do you know about MAPs?

No, I am not talking about geographical identities. A MAP (Minor Attracted Persons) is, in fact, a rebranding Pedophiles are trying to give themselves. Yes, these are people who are attracted to children below the age of consent.

MAP as a community, openly admits to having sexual feelings towards underage children and wish to normalize this so-called attraction. MAPs argue that they should not be villainized as long as their attraction is not acted upon, or in some cases where they have consent from the child. Did a shiver just run down your spine?

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Why do the terms we use matter?

Minor attracted person or ‘MAP’ is a widely acknowledged term used in the global Sex Offender Research and Sex Offender Treatment Community.

We did not invent this term.

MAP is NOT an attempt to ‘rebrand’ or ‘polish’ pedophiles. MAP is an umbrella term that includes:

Pedophile: an individual attracted to a pre-pubescent child;

Hebephile: an individual attracted to a pubescent child (11-14) and;

Ephebophile: an individual attracted to a post-pubescent child (i.e., a teen, 15-19).

These terms define an ‘attraction’ not a ‘behavior.’ By using these terms we under no circumstances are condoning or accepting the sexual abuse of children.

https://theglobalpreventionproject.org/maps

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  HottCoffee

Just call them men who wank to raping children, and produce child rape films, and consume child rape films and rape the children themselves if given the opportunity.
Do not give them a sanitized name or pretend that what they are is acceptable in any way shape or form. Child rapists is what they should be called. Sick fucking fuckers who want to fuck children. DO NOT GIVE THEM A SANITIZED NAME.

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Name*
1 year ago
Reply to  HottCoffee

There’s more folks like you obsessed with the topic than anyone else. I’m guessing like five old wierdos in Vancouver, and the the Qanon crew. It’s the political red herring de jour.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  HottCoffee

Give me a break, it is a blog…

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

The problem with the death penalty is our justice system is not infallible, especially when it comes to minorities.

Alf
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Alf
1 year ago
Reply to  Dano

It has a significantly higher percentage of accuracy than the 0% accuracy of condemning innocent babies to death like abortionists.

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  Farce

Pedophile example, or as the woke call it, a minor attracted person (MAP):

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The Real Brian
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1 year ago
Reply to  BigRick

That’s what Q said.

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another guest
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another guest
1 year ago
Reply to  BigRick

like you?
no need for a trial, or evidence
maybe its you big rick???

no need for a trial or evidence, just big rick

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Dano
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Dano
1 year ago
Reply to  BigRick

Start with the churches…

BigRick
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1 year ago
Reply to  Dano

I don’t see Christian/Catholic pastors circumcising babies and then sucking the blood out of their dicks.

Only rabbis do that. It’s a fact. It’s even been videotaped multiple times.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  BigRick

Nah the churches are just letting priests, ministers, pastors, and reverends rape children and covering it up. Praise Jesus!

Raymond Esquire
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Raymond Esquire
1 year ago

killing a soul before it can make its own choices is a very evil thing to do. The abortion clinics are ran by evil people. Most of the workers are just typical useful idiots (a term used by their masters to identify them) unbeknownst to them. An abortion is a direct attack on Gods creation. Enough is enough and it’s time for a change!

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago

Great. Now women are expected to be soul incubators. I don’t believe in ghosts or souls. This is bullshit.

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Name*
1 year ago

So no soul killing before 18? This is going to be a blow to all the high school musicals in the works.

Dano
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Dano
1 year ago

Where is the soul located?

Bill
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Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Dano

…bottom of the feet.

Sara
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Sara
1 year ago

Every single one of these people believe, wholeheartedly, that they know better about your life than you do. That’s the whole basis to their movement- their revocation of your rights. They know better than you because they don’t care who raped you or your eleven year old daughter- god and they say you better be forced to go through a pregnancy cause rape wasn’t traumatic enough. And ya know every kid loves to grow up and find out they exist because of rape. It’s great for self esteem they care so much about. They know better than all the women who abort to save their life from a life time attachment violent partner. Ignore the fact if you’re pregnant you’re more likely to die of homicide than any pregnancy complication. They know better than your doctors- don’t forget that as they make women carry fetuses without brains to term. Because “god” or some bs. Or they make you marinate with an atopic pregnancy until it burst your Fallopian tube and you almost die AND lose the ability for any further pregnancy. Because even though it’s well documented ectopic pregnancies will kill your and never produce a bubbly infant. These are just some examples of how much more about YOUR life they know. The belief is so strong they’ve legally forced it on you. Because that makes perfect sense. Who cares WHAT the circumstance- birth the baby. As simple minded and basic as that opinion is. And ya know what’s even crazier??? After they force your life changing decision on you and the potential life, they won’t be ANYWHERE to help you deal with the consequences. No where. I mean you might find them judging you in church with your bastard child they forced you to have.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

Who benefits most from choking off Russian natural gas revenue and has the technical capacity for the Nord Stream sabotage? They’re likely responsible for the worst ever man caused environmental disaster, offsetting a decade of US efforts to mitigate climate change.

Me
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Me
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

REALLY OFF TOPIC.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Me

abortion isn’t an issue worth discussion in California – the baby can be legally killed even as its head is naturally exiting the birth canal and that won’t change. I figure unloved and unwanted babies often turn out career criminals preying on society so better their moms kill them while it’s legal for the sake of society

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago

The whole abortion argument is failing miserably for the democrats, because the open borders are bringing Latino Catholics into the country. Catholics oppose abortion. They will lose the Latino voter base over this inconvenient fact..

willow creeker
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1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

Have you been watching the polls lately? While many Latinos do have conservative values, the overall trends are going very much in the Democrats favor.

Lou Monadi
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Lou Monadi
1 year ago
Reply to  willow creeker

This article from Nevada just yesterday says otherwise.

“But with only 37 days until the midterm elections, there are warning signs: At the doors, on the phones and on the streets, Latinos are threatening to stay home. And that is despite the presence of the first-ever Latina elected to the U.S. Senate, Catherine Cortez Masto, at the top of the ballot. “

“Disgruntled over the economy and unhappy with their post-pandemic job quality, these voters, many of whom Democratic groups identify as once lifelong supporters, could sit this one out.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna49906

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Name*
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Name*
1 year ago
Reply to  Lou Monadi

All that Border “invasion” talk might have been a double edged sword though. Might have at best seemed ridiculous to those that know, or maybe even insulting… Latinos sittn it out doesn’t mean more repuligan votes either.

jd
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jd
1 year ago

Abortion is the effect not the cause the cause is no access to good health coverage the cause is a high cost of living with a stagnant minimum wage and these same gop occultist will keep voting against things that will actually help women to make the decision to keep a baby you want a poor woman to be forced to give birth but you don’t want her to get food stamps you don’t want her to get free medical care where does that make sense they talk about God and Jesus I’m pretty sure Jesus would give food and Medical Care they continue to vote against even their own self-interest because it’s well known that the majority of red States also have the highest number of participants in assistance programs I truly believe it has nothing to do with saving babies it is a tactic that’s being used to force more people into poverty and create a higher influx of generational poverty in this country what better way to control people than to have them be poor , sick and uneducated

Just sayin
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Just sayin
1 year ago

i like ice pops!

Martin
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Martin
1 year ago

The one person shown that I completely agree with is the older lady holding a sign that says Adoption “The Living Option.” The one I don’t like is the man or woman wearing a hat that says, “Kill Your Local Pedophile.” Trying to incite violence will not work. Abortion is a subject that will be batted back and forth for a long time to come.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Martin

Child rapists are the only people I think everyone should be allowed to murder. A child raped by one of those fuckers lives with that for the rest of their lives.

Martin
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Martin
1 year ago
Reply to  guest`

I completely agree with you except for the murder part. They are exactly the name you called them, but we can’t become the old west again and go around shooting or hanging people. We have to follow the court laws, which I will admit are very, very lacking in punishing these people. The laws of the land need a lot of work to stop rapists, killers, etc., slipping through with a slap on the hand. [edit]

izzy
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izzy
1 year ago

“life begins at conception,” despite there being no scientific consensus on that point. 

Abortion is one thing; life is another thing all by itself. “Science” has a way of blinkering some issues. Conception is part of the ongoing phenomenon we call life. It’s a moving target.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  izzy

A cell dividing on Mars would be called life by scientists

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

And would also be called a parasite- “A parasite is an organism that lives on or in a host organism and gets its food from or at the expense of its host. ”

Does not resolve any issues because life as defined by science is not enough.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

“a parasite”
If you want to kill your future daughter and end her choices, just label her a parasite.
When China instituted it’s one child policy, it was the females that were aborted, causing and large imbalance between males and females.

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Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Sigh. Spin,spin,spin. I didn’t label anything. I just said the applying the scientific definition of life was a stupid criteria as shown science equally defining a fetus as a parasite. But if you insist on using Giant Squirrel’s definition of life for a fetus, YOU are equally labeling an unborn child as a parasite. You would want to do that, would you?

Seven Pounds of Pressure
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Seven Pounds of Pressure
1 year ago

This issues is really to hard for the commons. Maybe the all knowing state government can get more deeply involved. pregnancy should not be a right but a privilege. Every pregnancy should be decided on a case by case basis by a judge and jury. Let the gods of government decide who lives and who dies.

All hail the state powers.
All hail the powers of the state.

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago

Women do not need judges and juries to decide. Get in the sea.

HottCoffee
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HottCoffee
1 year ago

The new data released by Guttmacher include several notable trends (see table with abortion incidence and rates by state and region):

  • In 2020, there were 930,160 abortions in the United States, an 8% increase from 862,320 abortions in 2017.
  • Similarly, the abortion rate increased from 13.5 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 in 2017 to 14.4 per 1,000 women, a 7% increase.
  • In 2020, about one in five pregnancies ended in abortion. More specifically, the abortion ratio (the number of abortions per 100 pregnancies) increased from 18.4% in 2017 to 20.6% in 2020, a 12% increase.
  • The increase in abortion was accompanied by a 6% decline in births between 2017 and 2020. Because there were many more births (3.6 million) than abortions (930,000) in 2020, these patterns mean that fewer people were getting pregnant and, among those who did, a larger proportion chose to have an abortion.
  • The number of abortions increased in all four regions of the country between 2017 and 2020. The rise was largest in the West (12% increase) and Midwest (10% increase); abortions increased 8% in the South and 2% in the Northeast.
Name*
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Name*
1 year ago
Reply to  HottCoffee

Nobody wanted to have babies during the Agent Orange administration?

Seven Pounds of Pressure
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Seven Pounds of Pressure
1 year ago

Kinda like a social credit score but for child bearing.

Credit score too high = termination of pregnancy because the child would be privileged and use up to many natural resources.

Credit score to low = termination of pregnancy because the child would be a nonproductive member of society.

Credit score in target range = no termination/”forced to carry.”

Of course, the bar would be set both extraordinary high and relitvely low.
The grade scale would also be selectively enforced depending on the whim of a few in power.

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago

Get in the sea.

sohumjoe
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sohumjoe
1 year ago

While I disagree with their view, I do like that they are nice people and are just voicing their POV. That right there a textbook example of how to do a peaceful protest.

Mendo gramma
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Mendo gramma
1 year ago

Get your religion out of my uterus.

Rebecca Dimmick
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Rebecca Dimmick
1 year ago
Reply to  Mendo gramma

Close your legs and you wouldn’t have to worry about it

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
1 year ago

Unless a brutal man forces them open, then she does.

trout fisher
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trout fisher
1 year ago

Prayer is used by the lazy to make themselves feel like they are doing something, if you want to do what Jesus did, take a homeless person into your home, offer them food, a shower and wash their clothes.

Rebecca Dimmick
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Rebecca Dimmick
1 year ago
Reply to  trout fisher

DONT judge

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago

I’m judging. Christians are about thoughts and prayers not so much about going behind the mall and doing something Jesus cared about and said so. No, they focus on shaming women over abortion which Jesus never said to do.

These Christian men rape children in their churches and cover it up. We have the Baptists about to implode over child rape. The Catholics are famous for shuttling around rapist priests who raped children. The Mormons are infamous for raping multiple child brides and keeping them in breeding compounds dressed in weird prairie clothes. They want to rape and force women to have babies because they really worship their IDOL in their pants. Thats right, they are worshipping their own dick and pretending it is Christian piety and morals. Thoughts and prayers indeed *wank*wank*

Kym Kemp
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1 year ago
Reply to  guest`

Tarring everyone with the same brush–from Christians to cops to comedians rarely results in accuracy or improving the world.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

There are a few comedians and cops I don’t like but I didn’t mention them. 🙂

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Wait have I ranted about Eddie Izzard on this site yet? /s

trout fisher
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trout fisher
1 year ago

“A lighthouse is more useful than a church.” Benjamin Franklin
“Christianity is the most perverted system to have ever shone upon man” Thomas Jefferson

Brian
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Brian
1 year ago

It’s so nice to see healthy smiling faces. These are good people with a good message. Quite unlike the other side.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian

Except when “these … good people with a good message” confront a woman walking into a Planned Parenthood for something like, actually planning her parenthood, throwing accusations from frowning faces without knowing, or even bothering to find out, why the woman is going in there in the first place. Both sides are quite alike.

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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian

Yes, I see some religious based luxury beliefs. Unfortunately, they are all going to hell according to their scripture. They don’t go behind the mall and welcome the stranger, they don’t comfort the afflicted, they don’t feed the hungry, and clothe the naked, instead they attack women because they can’t read the bible and this is the long and short of their religion standing in the street like hypocrites with their perfect health, good nutrition, and clean clothes.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God. These people are damned.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
1 year ago
Reply to  guest`

…standing in the street like hypocrites…
Reminds me of Matthew 6.1-6

guest`
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guest`
1 year ago
Reply to  guest`

I don’t like you either.

Pharmstheproblem
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Pharmstheproblem
1 year ago

Bottom line is we all live with our decisions!

The Real Brian
Member
1 year ago

Don’t be daft.. That’s only IF you get a choice.

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/01/416421/five-years-after-abortion-nearly-all-women-say-it-was-right-decision-study

Five years after having an abortion, over 95 percent of the women in a landmark UC San Francisco study said it was the right decision for them.

The findings, published Sunday, Jan. 12, 2020, in Social Science & Medicine, come as many states are requiring waiting periods and counseling for women seeking abortions, based on the assumption that they may regret having them.

But the researchers at UCSF’s Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health (ANSIRH) found no evidence that women began to regret their decisions as years passed. On the contrary, the women reported that both their positive and negative feelings about the abortion diminished over time. At five years, the overwhelming majority (84 percent) had either positive feelings, or none at all.

Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
1 year ago

Nice to see some young smiling faces enjoying their protest. This compared to scrunched bitter frowns and foreheads, beet red enraged faces, and steam coming out of every orifice as witnessed at every pro abort, climate change, stop the nukes, got no science rally you see nowadays. Nobody likes protesting or witnessing protests with raging blue haired grannies with hair above their lips carrying upside down American flags or humans who glue their butts to windows. Sorry pro abort liberals, you lose again and got worked by young people with smiling faces whose very presence caused you to lose your vacated minds. Now that is hilarious to say the least.

Stillwantstoknow
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Stillwantstoknow
1 year ago

Are you The Creator of souls? You know nothing.
DON’T WANT TO GET PREGNANT?
GET YOUR TUBES TIED.
Use birth control.
Or abstinence.
Human fetuses are life and life comes not except through them.
NO FETUS=NO HUMAN LIFE.
We are their voice.
Abort yourself if you wish.

Stillwantstoknow
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Stillwantstoknow
1 year ago

Do you value your own life?

Humboldt
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Humboldt
1 year ago

If one doesn’t want to get an abortion, fine. That’s their choice.
Just keep it to yourself.
Why some have the need to try to tell others what to do is unfathomable.
It goes back to patriarchal religions.
Men standing in a pulpit and telling people what to do.
We can think for ourselves.
We need to shuck off patriarchal religions.
We don’t need Taliban in America.

Stillwantstoknow
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Stillwantstoknow
1 year ago
Reply to  Humboldt

I am speaking for the soul that cannot yet voice it’s own opinion.

I have a hard time killing things lately… spiders, ants, etc. they don’t have voices and cannot speak to me to ask me not to kill them. But they can try to express With body language their desire to not have their life ended by me.

I didn’t give life to anything as far as that goes and I don’t want to take life away from another living thing.

How much more so should we respect human life?

The womb is a God given sacred space to love, protect,and grow a miraculous, new, unique, human being. To nourish and love. It’s a privilege and a gift.

If you can’t care for him/her, bless a family that desperately wants to bear children but cannot. Ask them their opinion on abortion.

“Live and let live”

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guest`
1 year ago

Great another dude that thinks women are soul incubators.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

California law allows partial birth abortion, wouldn’t 15 weeks be good enough?

Jay
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Jay
1 year ago

“THE PILL & IUD also KILL CHILDREN”…..say what?! There are other arguments here that I majorly disagree with but this was the most ridiculous one of all.

Ben Round
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Ben Round
1 year ago

It would be interesting to run a 10 years study on young people (teens+) in these type protests and see if they have or their girlfriends have an abortion. Many have said “NO!” until they have to decide.

Bill
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Bill
1 year ago

Alright, first off, why is the spokesperson for removing women’s bodily autonomy invariably a man? In the same way, it is always a man killing doctors providing abortion services!
Next, how do you get from zygote to inhibition of formation of a zygote? Nevermind the fallacy that life begins at conception! It does not! That cluster of cells is just that. Not special, particularly as a human! But my point is, if IUDs, and contraceptives are killing potential babies, what about douche? Or pre-ejaculatory withdrawal? Anal sex? Is that a liner? Blow jobs? Or condoms? Is masturbation mass murder?
They want every coital act, consented, conscious or not to result in a sacred life. It’s just not!
No! Fuck these people!
They pop up in election years to help draw the lines of the great divide. Shilling for “conservatives” who stroke them with judges on one hand and fleece their pockets with the other.
Get the hell away, and take your sanctimonious Jesus with you!

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

To those saying a woman is pregnant with just a cluster of cells, I’m wondering, what are you made of exactly?
What makes you different from any other clump of cells?
When and what suddenly makes that clump human?
Why should you continue to make more cells when another clump shouldn’t.

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Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

The difference is that a cluster of cells that doesn’t require the body of a woman to live does not have to worry about nourishment and protection from a woman because they supply that for themselves in one way or another. No woman should be held hostage on your say so against her own best interest to provide life to another being any more than your say so alone can remove her kidney or liver or even blood to allow another to gain by it. You have no right to so many of those things. Your preferences DO NOT MATTER in anything other than your own choices. It is a serious infringement in another to think you do.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

Was that your position on mandating C 19 shots? Or did other peoples bodies suddenly become your business?
You didn’t seem to care if unvaccinated women died, telling them not to even show up at hospitals.

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Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Again… I never said mandating covid vaccination was a good idea. Outside of hospitals or schools, I think it was not good to mandate vaccination. And that only because hospitalized people and school children are both vulnerable and constantly exposed to others carrying infectious diseases. I just said that 99% percent of the anti vaxxers’ objections were not only wrong but just plain stupid.

It would be so great if people would actually read for comprehension rather than reading the first couple of words and rushing to criticize things that were never said. Creating a fictional commenter out the reader’s consolidating everything they ever heard anyone else say and deciding it all applies to people who never said any such thing seems to be a constant.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

Many people read your comments and will apply their own take a way from what was said.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

I think I have the right to state my preferences. Just like you’re doing.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

Apples and oranges, every pregnant woman was once a clump of cells feeding on her mother. Again, why are her clump of cells more important than her future child’s?
You have no idea who that child could turn out to be.

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