4 New Hospitalizations

Press release from Humboldt County Public Health:

Covid feature

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Humboldt County Public Health reported today four new hospitalizations including a resident in their 50s, one in their 60s and two in their 70s. No new deaths were reported.

An additional 119 confirmed positive cases of COVID-19 were announced as well as 45 new probable cases for the period between Tuesday, Sept. 13, and Tuesday, Sept. 20. The total number of confirmed cases in the county stands at 21,831. An additional 5,105 cases are reported as probable.*

Both of the new bivalent boosters—the Moderna (18 and older) and Pfizer (12 and older) versions—are being distributed at all Public Health vaccine clinics. Moderna stock is more limited, but according to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the two mRNA boosters are equally viable. Appointments can now be booked online at MyTurn.ca.gov. Walk-ins continue to be welcomed.

The new boosters are single-dose and are designed to combat both the original virus strain as well as Omicron subvariants BA.4 and BA.5, which are now the dominant COVID-19 viruses in the U.S.

To be eligible, individuals must have completed their primary series dose(s) at least two months prior to receiving an updated booster. According to the California Department of Public Health, people should wait three months following a COVID-19 infection to receive a bivalent booster. People can receive the updated booster regardless of previous booster doses received. The updated bivalent boosters replace the previous monovalent booster vaccines for individuals 12 years of age and older. Children ages 5 to 11 can still boost their immunity with the monovalent boosters.

Local vaccination data has been updated on the COVID-19 Data Dashboard. Highlights include:

  • Since the last weekly report on Sept. 14, an additional 44 residents completed their vaccine series.
  • A total of 91,538 individuals, or approximately 67% of the county’s total population, have been fully vaccinated as of Tuesday.

Vaccines remain readily available throughout Humboldt County and vaccination and testing services are free of charge. Walk-ins are welcome at all Public Health clinics and some pharmacy vaccination sites. However, vaccines for young children ages 6 months to 5 years old require preregistration. Appointments can be made at MyTurn.ca.gov. Questions about clinic services can be directed to Public Health at 707-445-6201.

OptumServe offers rapid antigen testing and PCR testing services at the Wharfinger Building seven days a week. Walk-ins will receive only rapid antigen testing unless the attendee specifically states they require a PCR test. Appointments for antigen testing can be made at lhi.care/covidtesting or by calling 888-634-1123. Wharfinger testing runs from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and is closed from 11 a.m. to noon and 4 to 5 p.m.

See the schedule below for specific Public Health vaccination and testing clinic dates, times, locations and available services.

Arcata— Thursday, Sept. 22, 11 a.m. to 1:30 p.m.
Arcata Transit Center (925 E St.)

Honeydew— Friday, Sept. 23, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.
Honeydew Elementary (1 Wilder Ridge Road)

Petrolia— Friday, Sept. 23, 3:30 to 4:30 p.m.
Mattole Valley Resource Center (167 Sherman St.)

Eureka— Saturday, Sept. 24, 11 a.m. to 2:30 p.m.
Jefferson Community Center (1000 B St.)

* “Confirmed cases” represent the total confirmed positive PCR test results or detection of SARS-CoV-2 by genomic sequencing, and “probable cases” are individuals who:

  • Have a positive antigen (Ag) test for COVID-19, or
  • Were diagnosed with COVID-19 disease by a health care provider, or
  • Have symptoms of COVID-19 disease after being in close contact with a person having a PCR-confirmed test result, or
  • Were a decedent whose death certificate lists COVID-19 as a cause or significant contributing factor of their death, in the absence of a positive PCR test result.

 

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov
Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/3246
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Humboldt Health Alert: humboldtgov.org/HumboldtHealthAlert

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grey fox
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1 year ago

True

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

“It’s been a long strange journey “

From Jan. 2020 until Sept. 2022
Almost 3 years!

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Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Strange? More like ridiculous, covid is a joke. Kind of like saying a green policy has nothing to do with less oil production. Less oil production equals higher crude prices. Bidens green policy equals higher fuel prices. Accept the truth!

Martin
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Martin
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

He speaks the truth. It has been a long, and getting longer journey!

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

You seem to believe only supply determines price. Actually it is a combination of supply and DEMAND. Less demand equals lower price. Accept the actual truth.

rollin
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rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Penguinn

Less demand DOES NOT equal lower price IF the supply is even lesser. If liberals understood economics, they would not be liberals. Accept THAT fact.

Cy AnseD
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1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

What drop in supply?

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Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
1 year ago
Reply to  Cy Anse

There can be no defense of this administration. Unless you are looking to upset the country that your ancestors probably sacrificed everything to get here , because of tyranny of the country or the lack of economic opportunity in their respective birth countries. What we are seeing is strategic, and by design. The majority of kids graduating today have little hope of owning anything unless their parents help them with a massive down payment. The bond market doesn’t lie, we need to stop printing money, because it’s going to devastate our future generations.

Call it out or be a part of the problem

rollin
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rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Cy Anse

You’re showing a chart that ends part way through 2020. This may be news to you, but we’re in 2022, You get an F for incomplete. Try again. Furthermore, much of that “crude production” is exported, hence less supply.

If liberals understood economics, they wouldn’t be liberals.

Cy AnseD
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

No, the graph is up through 2022, you are simply not reading it correctly.
And if you can’t grasp that the export/import market is part of the overall supply issue that affects pricing then you really don’t understand economic principles.

rollin
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rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Cy Anse

US oil production is down from both 2019 and 2020. Perhaps you forgot, but we had a pandemic in 21. Back to the drawing board. Your grade remains F.

Crude Oil Production (eia.gov)

Libertybiberty
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Libertybiberty
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

You must be exhausted

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

Meanwhile Biden’s policies cost another $2 trillion loss in American wealth just today. He’ll have us all dependent on government handouts before he’s done.
Joe Biden did that!

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Not according to this dude..

From an article posted by another commentator.

“ Mr. Armstrong explained that God had blessed America with the world’s highest per capita income because of a promise He had made to Abraham. He warned that God would take away America’s blessing if it rebelled against Him”

God Did That!

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Hat tip to Guest. Thanks for the laugh..
Got any more articles from The Trumpet?
😂😂😂

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Cost of food up 13 percent, thanks to EXTREMELY high costs to ship. Bidens green policy is to blame for this. Poor get poorer , thanks Joe

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Never underestimate the power of the many to be controlled by the few

Libertybiberty
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Libertybiberty
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

How about that Pastor Greg Locke.

Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Just read a great article with a great point concerning sanctuary liberal enclaves like MV. . Stated Alindky rule cinco is ridicule. There is no adequate defense and it infuriates the culprit. Yep, cannot even help poor travelers of color, need to cast them off the Uber cool survivor island which houses 17,000 during the winter and 217,000 in the summer. It is fall now and soon winter. My god, is there any human decency left? Money mouth, mouth money. Ridicule.

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago

Well that’s a switch…

(It’s what I’ve been saying it all along…)

San Francisco Chronicle…

“Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, said the COVID-19 pandemic could have started with a lab leak but cautioned that there is no evidence currently available to support the theory. “There’s always a suspicion. There’s always the issue that something really nefarious has happened — which is understandable because there’s always a possibility,” Fauci said Wednesday during a wide-ranging conversation about the pandemic as part of The Atlantic Festival 2022. “I think you’ve to keep an open mind for every possibility. But an open mind and a possibility does not equate with a probability.” He asserted that despite many conspiracy theories, he does not control the world’s scientific community.”

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Fauci, the corrupt loser, is finally coming clean…

He sure is singing a different tune all of a sudden…

Someone must have uncovered the truth…

It’s been so fucking obvious all along…

I wonder if the bat💘pangolin tryst adherists will continue to clutch desperately at their previous ridiculousness as Fauci himself leaves them wallowing on their own in the guano and keratin dust?

How embarrassing.

Will they finally admit their naive folly?

Sounds like they are about to be schooled.

Fauci definitely held the purse strings.

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

👍

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Here is Fauci May 5, 2020…

https://abc7news.com/amp/coronavirus-origin-conspiracy-theory-fauci-dr-anthony/6152892/#aoh=16638090828700&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

‘FAUCI: EVIDENCE SAYS CORONAVIRUS ‘COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ARTIFICIALLY OR DELIBERATELY MANIPULATED’ IN LAB’

WASHINGTON — Dr. Anthony Fauci is refuting an unsubstantiated theory linking the origin of the novel coronavirus outbreak to a possible accident at a Chinese virology laboratory.

” In a wide-ranging interview with National Geographic published Monday, Fauci said: “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats, and what’s out there now is very, very strongly leaning toward this [virus] could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated-the way the mutations have naturally evolved. A number of very qualified evolutionary biologists have said that everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that it evolved in nature and then jumped species.” ”

“Subsequently asked about the possibility of a virus originally from the wild escaping from a lab, Fauci continued: “But that means it was in the wild to begin with. That’s why I don’t get what they’re talking about [and] why I don’t spend a lot of time going in on this circular argument.” ”

________________________

Fauci is an unabashed liar…

He has gone from not getting it, to getting it…???

Sounds to me like he got caught lying.

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Resist
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Resist
1 year ago

“4 New Hospitalizations” , the headline declares…

From WHAT? And, so what?

In any given week I’d be willing to bet that more individuals than 4 are hospitalized from any number of afflictions.

This isn’t a press release, it’s misinformation from a government agency.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
1 year ago
Reply to  Resist

It’s an institution of power and control that demands your attention.

People are speaking up, and the institutions have been hijacked by people who think they can pull off what Hitler, and Stalin, and Mao could not.

laura cooskey
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laura cooskey
1 year ago
Reply to  Resist

Right! The entire first paragraph never mentions any reason these people have been hospitalized. The possible reasons for such journalistic negligence range from just plain careless, irresponsible writing, perhaps due to an education that didn’t bother to teach that a paragraph should make a clear point about who, what, when, and where… especially the lead paragraph in a press release; to an actual conscious attempt to lead us astray (make us think those are Covid hospitalizations without technically lying). Pessimistic, disappointed me thinks that normal modern incompetence is the reason; conspiracy-minded me thinks the latter is possible.

grey fox
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1 year ago

CDC report: More than 80 percent of US maternal deaths are preventable.

The COVID-19 pandemic has served to exacerbate this already damning state of affairs.

A Commonwealth Fund study in April also found that US women of reproductive age (18 to 49) have the highest rates of death from avoidable causes, including pregnancy related complications, far outpacing deaths of women in 10 other high-income countries.

As women are 14 times more likely to die from giving birth than from a safe, legal abortion, the reactionary ruling of the US Supreme Court in June, tearing away the constitutional right to abortion by overturning the 1973 landmark Roe v. Wade decision, is certain to increase the already abysmal maternal death rate.

wsws.org/en/articles/2022/09/21/ypee-s21.html

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Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Hate to bring bad news, most get old and frail and die from sort of flu.

PenguinnD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

No.
Here are the top causes of death for adults over the age of 65, starting with the number one cause: heart disease.

  • Heart Disease.
  • Cancer.
  • Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD)
  • Cerebrovascular Disease (Stroke)
  • Alzheimer’s Disease.
  • Diabetes.
  • Pneumonia and Influenza.
  • Accidents.
Mega meme
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Mega meme
1 year ago

No info on whether or not these
“ hospitalized “ individuals were vaxxed or not.

rollin
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rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Mega meme

Exactly, and silence from the vaccine cult about that uncomfortable FACT.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

Scientists were worried about a particular COVID variant this fall. They didn’t expect its offspring.

But Centaurus is no longer a worry, Dr. Raj Rajnarayanan, assistant dean of research and associate professor at the New York Institute of Technology campus in Jonesboro, Ark., told Fortune.

Instead, one of its children, BA.2.75.2, has outcompeted it, eliminating it as a threat—but replacing it with a more formidable one.

It’s one to watch this fall, he says—for more reasons than one.

https://fortune.com/well/2022/09/21/scientists-watching-centaurus-omicron-covid-variant-offspring-immune-evasion-monoclonal-antibodies-fall-winter-surge-forcast-model-prediction/

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Mega meme
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Mega meme
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Gee wow, you and your buddies are addicted to worry and fear. Maybe get off the internet for a bit and travel or something. Go to a concert in a large city , your little fear bubble will kill you one day.

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago

This week, 4 new hospitalizations…
and 164 new cases….

Last week, 2 hospitalizations, and 82 cases…

67% of the population is vaccinated and/or booster once or twice…

New booster rollout…

And hospitalizations and cases double in a week…

Things aren’t adding up.

The vaccines and boosters aren’t working.

Let’s go back in time 21 months, to the first vaccine rollout, and see what Fauci the liar had to say back then…

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/12/15/946714505/fauci-predicts-u-s-could-see-signs-of-herd-immunity-by-late-march-or-early-april

‘Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April’ [2021]

‘Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s senior official for infectious diseases, predicts the United States could begin to achieve early stages of herd immunity against the deadly coronavirus by late spring or summer. And if that happens, Fauci anticipates, “we could really turn this thing around” toward the end of 2021.

“NPR’s Rachel Martin asked Fauci how many Americans need to receive the vaccine to have an impact on the number of COVID-19 infections.”

“I would say 50% would have to get vaccinated before you start to see an impact,” Fauci said. “But I would say 75 to 85% would have to get vaccinated if you want to have that blanket of herd immunity.”

Martin asked Fauci, who has agreed to join President-elect Joe Biden’s administration as chief medical adviser, about his level of optimism regarding the distribution of the first round of vaccines across the country this week.

“Does this feel like the beginning of the end to you?” Martin queried.

“It does in some respects,” Fauci said. “It’s bittersweet that we have the beginning of what will ultimately be the end game of this pandemic.”

_________________________

“It’s bittersweet that we have the beginning of what will ultimately be the end game of this pandemic.”

-Fauci- (on 12-15-2020)

WTF???

“Bittersweet”???

Only a fucking monster would say such a thing, 300,000 Americans were dead at the time.

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Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

Bidenflation has robbed 13% from Americans’ buying power since Joe Biden’s inauguration. The lefts’ answer – live with 13% less, ride a bus or bike, eat lab meat.
Joe Biden did that!

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

Can We Be Human in Meatspace?
In thinking about technology, three questions are fundamental. What is technology for? What are we for? And how is our answer to the first question related to our answer to the second?

https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/can-we-be-human-in-meatspace

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago

The Dirty War over Covid

A necessary backlash to the pandemic regime led its participants to dark places

https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2022/10/03/the-dirty-war-over-covid/

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Unsustainable Alarmism The crisis mindset is a finite resource — and we’ve exhausted it.

https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/unsustainable-alarmism

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

The first word of the headline on your article…..
“Essay”
Unsustainable Alarmism
Note the “Essay…
1a : an analytic or interpretative literary composition usually dealing with its subject from a limited or personal point of view. 2a : effort, attempt especially : an initial tentative effort.

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

What dirty war? You can’t read the full article unless you log in!
At least in clears one thing up.. “ Dr. Fauci is retiring,”
The part I was able to read was quite a hit piece..

At least the link wasn’t neutered like a lot of your links…

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Try again, you get three free articles, if you’re smart enough to close the subscribe page. Just click the down arrow.

Maybe explain WHY you think it was a hit piece. If you can.

And thanks for the added snark remark. The one thing I can count on in your responses.
Or move along to your MTG obsession.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

From what I could read..Not going to bother reading the rest.

“The CDC lies prostrate. The last pockets of masking-and-distancing fighters have been exiled to exotic reaches of blue jungles”.
Another article they have there. “Why Big Business Loves Abortion” tells me all I need to know about that website…..

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

In other words, you only read what you already want to hear….
Thought so.
It’s actually a fairly balanced article.
But you would have to read more than the first sentence to know that.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Really? You don’t think Big Business would be involved in
Abortions?
Why not??

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

 “Why Big Business Loves Abortion” was the headline of the article I referred to.
But yes Big Business is involved in the abortion issue…

Abortion Is a Business Issue
“Women make up half of the work force, but the issue’s divisiveness has led many companies to keep quiet on the issue for now.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/04/business/dealbook/us-businesses-roe-wade-abortion.html

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Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Why do you bother with him? Same Ole same ole

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Giant Squirrel

I’m defending the reasonableness of others reading the articles, while showing how shallow narrow-mindedness is.

My reply isn’t necessarily for him, even though it’s posted to him.

But you’re right,…..same ole, same ole.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/statement-anthony-s-fauci-md

‘Monday, August 22, 2022’

‘Statement by Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.’

“I am announcing today that I will be stepping down from the positions of Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and Chief of the NIAID Laboratory of Immunoregulation, as well as the position of Chief Medical Advisor to President Joe Biden. I will be leaving these positions in December of this year to pursue the next chapter of my career.”

“While I am moving on from my current positions, I am not retiring.”

_________________________

Emphasis on…

“I am not retiring.”…

(THAT MEANS HE’S QUITTING!!!)

Fauci is a quitter.

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I agree He quit that position.
I just wonder what cushy position he’s going to show up in next.
Possibly at WHO?
His ego wants to keep “the power”. to mandate.

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

But your article say he is retiring.. So that part of your article is incorrect?
What other parts might be incorrect?

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

It would probably be prudent to keep in mind that Fauci is an unabashed, compulsive liar…

I suppose that it’s possible that anyone that keeps insisting that Fauci is retiring, contrary to what Fauci himself says, must have finally come to the realization that Fauci is a compulsive liar, and is keeping that in mind…

What else are they incorrect about or compensating for?

Let the deflections and the diversions begin…

Aaand…ACTION!!!

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HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I think it’s a money ploy, if he says he retires he keeps his pension, if he says he quits he doesn’t?
So in action he quits, but in financial nomenclature he retires.
Then he moves on to another lucrative position.

By saying he’s stepping down, leave his statement open-ended, so he can play it either way.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

I think you are right…

It’s how to squeeze out every last dime, and maximize his future income…

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

🤷‍♂️
So he is retiring but he isn’t retiring?

Fauci is believed to be a millionaire, though likely on the lower end of that definition. His wealth is estimated at $5 million according to Celebrity Net Worth, a site that researches the fortunes of famous people.

Don’t think he is to worried about money…

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thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Boy, you’ve got to be trying not to pay attention to argue that rich people don’t care about money

grey fox
Member
1 year ago

Well you can bet he isn’t complaining about the price of bread..

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago

“Animals which were outlawed and not allowed to be in a market where people can be in contact with them were actually brought there because they bring in a lot of money,” Fauci said. “That’s the thing that you really want them to come clean on.” ”

What kind of animals are “outlawed and not allowed to be in a market where people can be in contact with them”?

Sounds like infected lab animals is what he is talking about.

And that, my friend would be a lab animal, lab escape, lab release, lab origin.

Call it what you want, it came from a lab, no matter how you slice it, intentionally, or accidentally.

Fauci is spilling the beans, however honestly, or dishonestly.

He is trying to implicate China, to absolve his own culpability.

Let’s not forget, there were two strains released, A and B.

There is evidence that B was released before A.

That would suggest a lab association.

Two different strains of a zoonotic origin would not emerge anywhere near each other, or nearly simultaneously, and definitely not near each other, AND simultaneously.

But if different groups of numerous lab animals infected with B and then A, were sold to the wet markets, in subsequent events, there you have it…

A lab release, with the wet market as an amplifier, times two. It took numerous spillovers for the viruses to “take root”, and spread. At least 8, from what I have gathered.

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“The most recent research indicates that COVID-19 started in wildlife available at the market.”

-Kym Kemp-

This is surely possible.

Please consider that the “wildlife” that was available for sale at the “wet market” could easily have included black market experimental animals that could easily have included animals intentionally infected with coronavirus, in a lab such as the nearby WIV, for such things as passage adaptation experimentation, etc.

Both could be true.

As Fauci doesn’t specify, for whatever reason, what he means by his cryptic statement:

“Animals which were outlawed and not allowed to be in a market where people can be in contact with them were actually brought there because they bring in a lot of money,” ”

Maybe he was talking about live animals, that were of species known to have the potential to transmit coronavirus to humans, and/or that came from a lab, illegally, or well at least immorally.

Please see my attached post on china’s “updated rules” concerning “safe carcass disposal” not to include “returning to the market”, from August of 2021.

The virus could have started, or emerged, or been amplified, VIA the wet market, from intentionally infected animals from experimentation at the nearby lab, that were sold to a vendor there, from an unscrupulous individual entrusted with the proper disposal of the infected lab animals, who profited more, by disposing of them improperly, for human consumption, possibly on an ongoing periodic basis…

It has been estimated that it would have taken at least a dozen separate zoonotic “transfers”, for the outbreak to have “succeeded”. It must have required multiple animals, over time, for that to have happened, also, please consider there were more than one initial strain doing the original infecting.

Some say that weakens the lab origin theory, but I would beg to differ.

It would not be at all unusual for a lab to be experimenting with more than one strain of coronavirus, especially if there was passage adaptation going on…

There is a precedent, that resulted in a disease outbreak.

The man made millions.

(It’s a strong motivator for wrongdoing, and it has happened before.)

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Care to explain how Dr. Fauci, [who is retiring in December] made millions off this?

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1179747.shtml

Laboratories in China have paid insufficient attention to biological disposal, Yang said.

Lab trash can contain man-made viruses, bacteria or microbes with a potentially deadly impact on human beings, animals or plants.

Some researchers discharge laboratory materials into the sewer after experiments without a specific biological disposal mechanism, Yang explained.

A minor SARS virus infection in Beijing and Anhui in 2004 was resulted from insufficient management and improper inactivation process at a lab, according to the People’s Daily.

The small outbreak originated at a diarrhea lab of the virology department affiliated with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the article said. After the virology department was sealed off, no SARS patients were found.

Medical staff and experts have long been asking for better regulation and supervision of biological research institutes in China, but with mixed results.

A top academician at the Chinese Academy of Engineering earned 10.17 million yuan ($1.46 million) by illegally selling off lab animals and experimental milk, according to a report in the Shanghai-based The Paper.

Li Ning, a leading expert at transgenic technologies at China Agricultural University, was sentenced to 12 years in prison on January 2 for grafting 37.56 million yuan.

Management on biology labs is an issue not just for China. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also launched actions in August 2014 to improve its laboratory safety following incidents where research fellows failed to process virus samples properbly.

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This politico article is worth a read.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin-chaos-under-heaven-wuhan-lab-book-excerpt-474322

‘In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened’

“The original Chinese government story, that the pandemic spread from a seafood market in Wuhan, was the first and therefore most widely accepted theory. But cracks in that theory slowly emerged throughout the late winter and spring of 2020. The first known case of Covid-19 in Wuhan, it was revealed in February, had no connection to the market.”

“In May, Chinese CDC officials declared on Chinese state media that they had ruled out the possibility that the seafood market was the origin of the virus, completely abandoning the original official story.”

“The Wuhan Institute of Virology had openly participated in gain-of-function research in partnership with U.S. universities and institutions. But the official told me the U.S. government had evidence that Chinese labs were performing gain-of-function research on a much larger scale than was publicly disclosed, meaning they were taking more risks in more labs than anyone outside China was aware of. This insight, in turn, fed into the lab-accident hypothesis in a new and troubling way.”

“A little-noticed study was released in early July 2020 by a group of Chinese researchers in Beijing, including several affiliated with the Academy of Military Medical Science. These scientists said they had created a new model for studying SARS-CoV-2 by creating mice with human-like lung characteristics by using the CRISPR gene-editing technology to give the mice lung cells with the human ACE2 receptor — the cell receptor that allowed coronaviruses to so easily infect human lungs.”

“After consultations with experts, some U.S. officials came to believe this Beijing lab was likely conducting coronavirus experiments on mice fitted with ACE2 receptors well before the coronavirus outbreak—research they hadn’t disclosed and continued not to admit to. In its January 15 statement, the State Department alleged that although the Wuhan Institute of Virology disclosed some of its participation in gain-of-function research, it has not disclosed its work on RaTG13 and “has engaged in classified research, including laboratory animal experiments, on behalf of the Chinese military since at least 2017.” That, by itself, did not help to explain how SARS-CoV-2 originated. But it was clear that officials believed there was a lot of risky coronavirus research going on in Chinese labs that the rest of the world was simply not aware of.”

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I don’t know about you, but the lab leak theory sounds a lot more plausibe to me.
that the wet market origin theory.

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1 year ago
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 “don’t know about you, but the lab leak theory sounds a lot more plausibe to me.
that the wet market origin theory.”

That’s because you don’t actually know how any of this works.
It continually astonishes me how people without education or experience in a field claim to be better arbiters of information than those who have devoted their entire lives to a particular discipline.

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1 year ago
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🤔🧐

“I AM FAUCI !”

– Cy Anse-

😁

Did you miss this?

In late 2017, top health and science officials at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing attended a conference in the Chinese capital. There, they saw a presentation on a new study put out by a group of Chinese scientists, including several from the Wuhan lab, in conjunction with the U.S. National Institutes of Health.

Since the 2002 outbreak of SARS—the deadly disease caused by a coronavirus transmitted by bats in China—scientists around the world had been looking for ways to predict and limit future outbreaks of similar diseases. To aid the effort, the NIH had funded a number of projects that involved the WIV scientists, including much of the Wuhan lab’s work with bat coronaviruses. The new study was entitled “Discovery of a Rich Gene Pool of Bat SARS-Related Coronaviruses Provides New Insights into the Origin of SARS Coronavirus.”

These researchers, the American officials learned, had found a population of bats from caves in Yunnan province that gave them insight into how SARS coronaviruses originated and spread. The researchers boasted that they may have found the cave where the original SARS coronavirus originated. But all the U.S. diplomats cared about was that these scientists had discovered three new viruses that had a unique characteristic: they contained a “spike protein” that was particularly good at grabbing on to a specific receptor in human lung cells known as an ACE2 receptor. That means the viruses were potentially very dangerous for humans—and that these viruses were now in a lab with which they, the U.S. diplomats, were largely unfamiliar.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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In case your wondering he is referring to an article I posted earlier. Why he posted to Arcata guy just now I have no clue.

grey fox
21 hours ago
Dr. Fauci who is retiring from the NIH in December had this to say about COVID-19 origins…

Fauci says the Chinese government is ‘probably’ hiding something about the origins of COVID, but he’s not sure it’s a lab leak.

Evidence so far “strongly favors a natural occurrence” over a lab leak.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-china-officials-probably-hiding-something-about-covid-origins-2022-9?amp

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1 year ago
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Just like trump said 2 years ago. Lol🤣🤣

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The previous rules must have been inadequate…

https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3144005/china-tightens-lab-animal-rules-amid-calls-covid-19-laboratory

“The bodies and tissues of animals used in experiments should be disposed of safely. Animals used in experiments cannot go back on the market. The treatment process needs to be fully traceable,” the draft says.”

“Since the outbreak of Covid-19 in China … the Chinese government and society as a whole have become much more aware of or concerned about animals used for different purposes in China, and human-animal relations, which is one of the very few or the only positive in the aftermath of the pandemic,” Cao said.”

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I don’t think most journalists are focused on the difference between whether he is retiring or quitting, as they don’t see it as relevant to the point they are trying to get across, therefore they don’t differentiate.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Tell it to Guest. He is the one making a big fuss over the word…

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1 year ago
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I didn’t reply to you.
I replied to Guest.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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🙄
You take things so seriously.
I know your reply was to Guest.

You must be all kinds of fun at your right-wing tea parties…..

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1 year ago
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Hmm, strange, you didn’t notice I drink Hot Coffee.

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1 year ago

LOL….

In his first TV appearance since a court-authorized search of his Florida home last month, Donald Trump reasserted Wednesday that any documents taken from the White House to Mar-a-Lago were declassified while he was in office, adding that a president can carry that out “even by thinking about it.”
Trump Floats Nutso Claim FBI Agents Were After Hillary’s Emails During Mar-A-Lago Raid…

Trump/”Peach Tree” Greene 2024!

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For your information. That is true. The president can do that🤣🤣

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1 year ago

ARCATA – Sunny Brae woke up Saturday morning to find anti-semitic flyers identical in content and delivery method to the ones distributed in Arcata and other areas of Humboldt on July 4.
Delivered to driveways in sandwich bags weighted with sand, apparently during the night, the flyers appear to be downloaded Internet hate propaganda.

https://www.madriverunion.com/articles/anti-semitic-flyers-again-land-in-arcata-driveways/

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Wow this is even more scary than COVID at this point. Haha, the media reporting this and then citizens repeating will give the midnight delivery person more publicity than they could have expected. Well played.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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So just pretend things like this don’t happen and will just go away?
The haters will quit hating?
The litters will quit littering?
You throw shit on my property I am going to say something..

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1 year ago

I’ve been tracking fentanyl poisoning for the last 3 weeks.

Based on NIH data, 154 Americans die each day.

That’s the equivalent of 38 mass shootings.

❗️In the last 21 days, 3,234 Americans died from fentanyl poisoning.

That’s the equivalent of 808 mass shootings or a 9/11❗️

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1 year ago

The difference being that fentanyl overdoses are largely self-inflicted. Victims of mass shootings are not. So maybe stop with the false equivalence rhetoric?

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1 year ago
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Another difference is that fentanyl is a Chinese passive warfare weapon. Guns are an inherent right in the constitution. It is also the duty of the federal government to protect the states against invasion. Scores of enemy combatants are flowing through our border using that Chinese passive weapon against US Citizens.

I don’t condone mass murder, but I do adhere to protecting our country against any enemy… Foreign or domestic. The Chinese and their puppet in the White House are the enemies of the people of the United States of America.

#FJB

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1 year ago
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Tim, price is TRUTH.

IS that simple enough to understand?

Cy AnseD
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1 year ago

“price is TRUTH”.

¿Que?

grey fox
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1 year ago

“YOUNGSTOWN, OH—Addressing a rally this week with a lazy attempt to appeal to his supporters, former President Donald Trump said, ‘I’m Mr. Q the pedophile or whatever,” in a half-assed attempt to pander to QAnon. “Yeah, that’s right, it’s me, Mr. Q, the pizza demon, and I have kids in my basement and who knows what else..
https://www.theonion.com/i-m-mr-q-the-pedophile-or-whatever-trump-says-in-ha-1849569089

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Remember all that fussing you did over Matt Gaetz?

Career prosecutors recommend no charges for Gaetz in sex-trafficking probeInvestigators see credibility challenges for two of the main witnesses in the probe of the congressman’s past dealings with a 17-year-old
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/23/gaetz-no-charges-sex-trafficking/

Would you like some salt with your crow?

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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“Where their is smoke there is fire”
Also:

“Senior department officials have not made a final decision on whether to charge Gaetz, but it is rare for such advice to be rejected, these people told The Washington Post, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the deliberations. They added that it is always possible additional evidence emerges that could alter prosecutors’ understanding of the case.“

Gaetz: “He has also said the only time he had sex with a 17-year-old was when he was also 17.

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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“Don’t count your crows before they are hatched”

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Gaetz campaign paying former Epstein lawyer amid sex trafficking investigation
A new filing shows how Gaetz is spending the funds he’s raised amid the scandal

grey fox
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1 year ago
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An aide to former President Donald Trump testified to the House Select Committee investigating January 6 that GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida sought a preemptive presidential pardon relating to a Justice Department investigation examining whether Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, a source familiar with the aide’s testimony.

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1 year ago
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Where there is lab leak smoke, there is fire.

HotCoffee
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1 year ago
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👍

grey fox
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1 year ago

Dr. Fauci who is retiring from the NIH in December had this to say about COVID-19 origins…

Fauci says the Chinese government is ‘probably’ hiding something about the origins of COVID, but he’s not sure it’s a lab leak.

Evidence so far “strongly favors a natural occurrence” over a lab leak.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-china-officials-probably-hiding-something-about-covid-origins-2022-9?amp

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🤔

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🧐

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🤔🧐Bumbling buffoon Biden blunders badly, by buying bogus bivalent boosters bigly, blowing $billions.😁

Biden foolishly purchased 171 million doses of untested bivalent boosters, but only 4.4 million doses have found recipients…

https://fortune.com/2022/09/23/how-many-americans-updated-covid-booster-vaccine-omicron-4-million-pandemic-is-over/
Since his signature new booster campaign rollout, only 4.4 million doses have been utilized.

What a waste. What a maroon.

But don’t blame Biden saying “The pandemic is over” for the poor uptake…

The poor uptake is precisely the reason why he said “The pandemic is over”…

He had to say that as soon as he realized he blew it, and the bivalent booster uptake was dismal, and his signature new booster campaign, still in it’s infancy, was already an abject failure.

It’s all the dishonesty from all the health officials, and the fact that any benefit the boosters may provide is fleeting, not to mention the unknown side effects, that has caused vaccine hesitancy to plateau.

How could the health officials and the Biden administration be so foolish to think that a completely untested new booster vaccine would be well received?

And that’s before all the bullshit lies that they told about it suddenly being good for a year, and especially Ashish Jha’s completely asinine, previous disproven, tired old manipulative claim that getting the new bivalent booster had to be done in order to protect “Grandma”!

The Novavax vaccine has fared even worse…

Only 6,278 doses have been received…

That’s out of 772,900 vaccines delivered.

How many millions of Novavax doses did Biden purchase in error?

I knew the Novavax uptake would be abysmal, but the uptake was much less than I had anticipated.

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1 year ago
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Why did Ashish JHA lie about the booster “protecting Grandma”

From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Latest updates:

‘White House COVID booster imperative: “get it by Halloween” ‘

“Those deliberating when to get the updated bivalent booster against COVID-19 shouldn’t wait too long, according to the White House COVID-19 response coordinator.”

“In an interview for Andy Slavitt’s “In the Bubble” podcast, Dr. Ashish Jha, the White House COVID-19 response coordinator, said high-risk individuals should get the new shots right away and everyone else should get it in early fall. “I think it’s really important for people to get it by Halloween,” he said. “Why Halloween? Because three weeks after Halloween is Thanksgiving, and there’s a lot of travel, and you’re seeing family, and you’re seeing friends. And few weeks later, it’s the holidays.” ”

“Jha added that one of the primary reasons the Biden administration is considering making the vaccines available annually like the flu shot is because they expect the virus to follow a seasonal pattern. “We know respiratory viruses circulate at much higher levels in the fall and winter,” Jha said. “It’s a really good time to get yourself protected. And even if you yourself are on the low-risk side, you’re going to have family and friends you’re going to see. You don’t want to be the person who gives it to your grandma.” ”

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That was proven to be a lie long ago…

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-contagious-study-003864880369

“The study found no significant overall difference in how long patients with the delta or omicron variants were capable of spreading the virus, regardless of vaccination status, according to two authors of the study.”

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It’s these sorts of ongoing, proven lies that create vaccine hesitancy.

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Giant Squirrel
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1 year ago

Biden’s policies are destroying another trillion of American market wealth just today, Friday. The leftists’ intent is clearly a dependent society voting Democrat to assure ever increasing handouts
Joe Biden did that!

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1 year ago

https://www.investors.com/news/technology/novavax-stock-hits-low-as-challenges-mount-for-covid-shot/

Only 6,278 Novavax doses have been administered, out of 772,900 delivered.

That’s only 0.8% of delivered doses that have found recipients.

Over 99% of delivered doses have not been utilized.

What a waste, Biden ordered millions of these unnecessary Novavax vaccines…

Only 6,278 have been accepted by people.

I recognized the stupidity of that as soon as he did it.

Looks like I was right.

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1 year ago

Biden-Harris purchase 3.2 million Novavax vaccine doses…

So far, only 6,278 have gone into people’s arms…

That’s only 0.196% of Novavax vaccines that were purchased by Biden-Harris, that have been accepted by Americans.

Over 99.8% of those vaccines purchased are now unutilized surplus.

What an idiotic waste. Biden is a moron.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/07/11/biden-harris-administration-secures-3-2-million-doses-novavax-covid-19-vaccine.html

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Only 4.4 million out of 171 million new bivalent boosters purchased for $4.94 billion, have been given so far, over three weeks into Biden’s signature new untested bivalent booster rollout campaign…

That’s only 2.57% of the vaccines he purchased that have been used.
That means we have only benefitted by $12,695,800,
out of that $4,940,000,000

That’s dismal.

97.43% of the new bivalent boosters that Biden purchased haven’t gone into Americans arms yet.

But the cost for them has come out of Americans pockets already, and it’s been handed to the vaccine manufacturers…

What a scam!

Joe Biden did that.

He is just sinking us deeper and deeper in debt.

We must never forget that!

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Cont.

That means that,
$4,813,042,000 of that,
$4,940,000,000 that Biden spent,
on new bivalent boosters,
hasn’t been justified, so far.

The madness must stop!

Giant Squirrel
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Giant Squirrel
1 year ago

Biden’s policies are going to rob 20% of home value by 2023, stealing $100,000 from the average American homeowner.
Joe Biden did that!

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago

Novavax -6.37% today.

Good thing that Biden invested in Novavax, right?

Joe Biden did that.

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Novavax: (past month) -42.53%

Novavax is a loser.

Joe Biden wants to protect us all with a big-time loser.

What is he thinking?

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1 year ago

And finally, Novavax, in the last year…

-73.80%…

Let’s go Brandon!

Biden bought 3.2 million Novavax vaccine doses.

Of those 3,200,000 that he purchased, only 6,278 have been administered.

That was genius, Joe!

Way to blow our dough!

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The plot to eliminate animal protein is well ahead of your plans to keep eating it.Farmers across the world are in open revolt against their governments. In India, thousands of farmers have stormed New Delhi, alleging collusion between the Prime Minister and major agricultural corporations. In the Netherlands, new restrictions on nitrogen emissions from fertilizer that threaten to destroy farmers’ livelihoods have driven battalions of tractors into the streets—and conflicts with the police. In Sri Lanka, the President’s sudden decision to ban chemical fertilizers and impose universal organic farming recently led to massive protests and the collapse of their government. Similar environmentalist policies are about to be imposed in Ireland and Canada, where just last year truckers shut down the city of Ottawa over COVID vaccination mandates.

continued..

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1 year ago
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Writing for National Review, Andrew Stuttaford predicts an impending farmer’s uprising in Canada in response to what he calls Canada’s “war on beef.” The phrase echoes a common belief on the American right that leftists seek to hyper-regulate or outright ban animal protein in the same way they do guns or fossil fuels. The Foundation for Economic Education began talking about a “war on meat” as early as 2019.
more..

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1 year ago
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Senator Joni Ernst referenced “the left’s war on meat” to advocate her TASTEE Act last year. John Daniel Davidson of The Federalist recently warned that “America is Next” for a farmer uprising, due to the climate policies that Democrats are imposing here.

Lots of links and the story continues, so go here to to read the rest….

https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-meat-replacement-hypothesis/

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1 year ago
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“Overall, we rate The American Mind Right Biased based on story selection and editorially positions that align with the political right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing and lightly promoting a conspiracy theory regarding the deep state and replacement theory”
Media Bias~

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Fake News: Newspaper fact checkers were once a rarity. Now they’re in a position to determine what people can read online, despite their own checkered past. So, who keeps the fact checkers honest?
X In the past, fact checkers tended to focus mainly on debunking urban myths or clearly false claims made by political leaders. But lately, fact checkers have appointed themselves as arbiters of the credibility of news outlets. And now, giant tech companies like Google and Facebook have enlisted these “experts” to weed out “fake news.”
If a fact-checking outfit deems a story not entirely true, for example, Facebook can limit its reach on its News Feed. Google now includes a “fact check” box on its main search results page to help “people make more informed judgments.”
The problem is that fact checkers themselves can be unreliable sources for what’s true or not. Fact checkers make their own mistakes. They sometimes change ratings based on new information. Or they make determinations based on arbitrary standards that can change from one review to the next.
Case in point: PolitiFact called a 2012 Mitt Romney campaign ad its “lie of the year” for a statement about Jeeps being made in China. PolitiFact admitted that the “lie” in the ad was actually the “literal truth.”
We had firsthand experience with errant fact checks when Snopes published one in April claiming that IBD had “resuscitated” a “false” claim about 3.5 million more registered voters than eligible voters. In fact, we’d published that editorial eight months earlier — as was obvious from the time stamp on the article itself. (It went viral this spring on Facebook.) Snopes later rewrote that section of its fact check — but never acknowledged its original mistake. It also changed the ruling on the underlying claims from “false” to “mixture.”
Fact checkers also often “check” opinions, rather than factual claims, even though two people can form diametrically opposed opinions based on the same facts.
Worse, many media “fact checks” use other media sources to check facts, apparently forgetting that journalists get their facts wrong almost as often as politicians. (Take a look at the list of corrections on any given day in The New York Times.)
On top of this are legitimate complaints of political bias among fact checkers, who often seem to spend most of their time trying to debunk claims made by conservatives rather than liberals.

investors.com/politics/editorials/fact-checkers-big-media/

HotCoffee
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Thankfully, Real Clear Politics has stepped into the breach by creating what it calls Fact Check Review.
Not only does the site regularly review problematic “fact checks,” it constantly updates a database on fact checks published Snopes, FactCheck.org, PolitiFact, New York Times, Washington Post and the Weekly Standard.
It then rates them based on how often each site checks opinions rather than facts. In July, for example, a quarter of the Post’s “fact” checks were of opinions, as were 18% of Politifact’s. It also looks at how often fact checkers rely on other news outlets to verify claims. In July, 90% of Snopes fact checks used other media sources.
There’s a bigger problem with this fact-checking trend, however. As the Weekly Standard’s Mark Hemingway explained: “It’s basically a way for a bunch of reporters with no particular expertise to render pseudoscientific judgments on statements from public figures that are obviously argumentative or otherwise unverifiable. Then there’s the matter of them weighing in with thundering certitude — pants on fire! — on complex policy debates they frequently misunderstand.”
In the end, the best way to judge the veracity of claims being tossed around is to become better informed about the issues, not contract out that job to people who aren’t necessarily qualified to do for you.

grey fox
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1 year ago
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“Overall, we rate Real Clear Politics as right-center biased based on source selection that leans right. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to some sources that have failed fact checks.”
Media Bias~

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Looks like Biden new untested bivalent booster vaccine rollout campaign fiasco is a complete failure…

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/updated-covid-booster-shots-doses-administered-cdc-rcna48960

“At least 4.4 million people have received an updated Covid booster since the start of the month, according to data released Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That number represents around 1.5% of people currently eligible to receive the shots in the U.S.”

“Dr. Scott Roberts, a Yale Medicine infectious disease specialist, said the relatively low booster uptake was “demoralizing.”

“I would expect a much higher proportion of Americans to have gotten the booster by this point,” he said.”

“The fact that this booster came out days before Biden said the pandemic is over is a huge mixed message,” he said. “Now it’s going to be that much harder to convince those at risk who are on the fence to get a booster.” ”

“Still, the U.S. has seen an uptick in overall demand for Covid shots since the booster rollout began: The U.S. is currently administering around 314,000 Covid vaccine doses per day, as a weekly average. That’s nearly triple the number from the start of the month.”

Even at 314,000 a day, it will take over 544 days to go through the 171 million doses that Biden foolishly purchased…

That’s over 18 months…

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🤔🧐Overall, we rate Biden a numbskull.

And that goes for the rest of his administration as well…

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grey fox
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1 year ago
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Says the man {or woman} who gets their economic news from The Trumpet…
😂😂😂

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Hmm,

Hydroxychloroquine blocks SARS-CoV-2 entry into the endocytic pathway in mammalian cell culture
https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-022-03841-8

grey fox
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1 year ago

Don’t think we have to worry about a US farmers uprising any time soon.
If anything modern day farming practices are wreaking havoc on the environment.

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1 year ago
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Grow all your own food and don’t expect the world to revolve round your comfort zone.

Matt Gaetz is vindicated.

Prosecutors recommended NOT to bring charges against him.

Congressman Gaetz will win re-election this November & serve as a member of the Republican House majority beginning in January.

grey fox
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1 year ago

Rep. Matt Gaetz Votes Against Capping Insulin Prices, Says People Should Just Lose Weight

The Florida congressman said “the price of insulin increases as waistlines increase.”

Corporate Serfdom
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1 year ago
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Well you can’t win them all.

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1 year ago

Seems the person that fusses over everyone else’s links won’t post any links. So much for transparency.
I wonder how many of those insurances, disaster payments, and other subsidies go to small farmers and how much to Big AG.

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Issue SummaryUSDA could improve the efficiency and effectiveness of its farm programs.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) administers a number of programs to support farm income, assist farmers after disasters, and conserve natural resources. USDA has also provided ad-hoc assistance to farmers who faced trade disruptions or who have lost sales due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In 2020, USDA spent about $46 billion in payments to farmers ($30 billion of which came from COVID-19 relief programs).
However, USDA could improve how it administers some of these programs.

  • For instance:
  • USDA created the Farmers to Families Food Box Program to help with the COVID-19 pandemic. Between May 2020 and May 2021, USDA purchased fresh fruits and vegetables and meat and dairy products for distribution to food banks, community and faith-based organizations, and other nonprofits. It did this to achieve 3 goals: provide food to the needy, maintain food distribution jobs, and create alternative outlets for food producers who lost customers (like restaurants). The program achieved its first goal—USDA’s data shows that more than 176 million boxes were delivered to the needy. However, one lesson USDA learned during the program was that it should have been collecting data to assess the other 2 program goals. USDA could apply this lesson learned to better assess similar food programs.
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  • For certain farm programs that help support farmers’ income, payment recipients are required by law to be actively engaged in farming. However, USDA has had difficulty in the past verifying whether recipients were actively farming. USDA has improved its reviews since then, but some issues remain. For example, USDA waived 251 reviews that it said had been done recently and didn’t need re-review yet. But there wasn’t a record of a recent review for 76 of them. 

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In the United States, the vast majority (nearly 96 percent) of the 2.2 million farms are family owned and operated.
The average farm size in the US is roughly 460 acres.

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Under Trump, Farm Subsidies Soared and the Rich Got Richer
Biden and Congress Must Reform a Wasteful and Unfair System

By Anne Schechinger, Senior Analyst of Economics

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2021

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Anne Schechinger

Midwest Director

Accuracy. EWG has worked to ensure the accuracy of the information it provides through its products and services, including through EWG’s web, database, e-mail, and mobile application properties. The product ratings, images, conclusions, recommendations, and findings that appear on EWG’s web, database, and mobile application properties, or in e-mail messages, reflect EWG’s research at the time of publication. Please be advised that this information frequently relies on data obtained from many sources, and accordingly, EWG cannot guarantee the accuracy of the information provided or any analysis based thereon. Moreover, in light of evolving regulatory and market conditions, subsequent product reformulations, and other factors, this information may no longer be current.

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/our-experts/anne-schechinger

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Me thinks she has a bit of media bias.

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?…🤷‍♂️

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This has been interesting but veered off the main topic which I was alluding to.

Which was an article you posted stating this “

“John Daniel Davidson of The Federalist recently warned that “America is Next” for a farmer uprising, due to the climate policies that Democrats are imposing here.”

https://kymkemp.com/2022/09/21/4-new-hospitalizations/#comment-1563472

Once again I state “farmers in the US are not likely to be uprising any time soon.

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Time will tell.

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US farmers are just going to retire. The average age of US farmers is already above the retirement age, and it’s even worse when you look at wide acreage farmers.

US farm policy has been broken for a generation or two and has left our food production capacity in critical danger.

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“She was 12, I was 30.”

(Sssnnnniiiiffff…..)

Biden went off script…

How awkward…

“You gotta say hi to me,” Biden said mid-
speech at the National Education Association headquarters in DC. “We go back a long way. She was 12, I was 30. But anyway, this woman helped me get an awful lot done.” ”

Maybe he could have phrased that one a little bit differently?

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Thanks, Joe Biden…

The Stock Market Tanked…

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/overnights/3658984-on-the-money-stock-market-tanks-as-interest-rates-spike/

“Dow at lowest since 2020 as recession fears grow
Markets are plunging as they process the latest interest rate hikes from the Federal Reserve in its battle to fight 40-year-high inflation. ”

“The Dow Jones Industrial average dropped nearly 500 points to hit 29,590 at market close on Friday — its lowest point in nearly two years. Since the Fed started raising interest rates in March, the index has lost more than 13 percent of its value and is down more than 19 percent on the year.
Other indices have followed suit. ”

“The S&P 500 fell 65 points to close at 3,693 on Friday, down more than 15 percent since March and almost 23 percent on the year.
The technology-heavy Nasdaq dropped nearly 200 points, or 1.8 percent, to close at 10,867, down almost 20 percent since March. ”

“The background: The Fed has raised its baseline interest rate range by 3.25 percentage points from near-zero levels in March. Consumer inflation did come down slightly over the summer, falling to 8.3 percent in August from 8.5 percent in July and 9.1 percent in June.” ”

“But the little headway made by the Fed in fighting inflation comes at the price of slowing the economy and potentially even driving it into a recession, a trade-off that some market commentators don’t think is worth it. ”

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Recession, here we come!

Joe Biden did that…

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Inflation: Up. ✓

Stock Market: Down. ✓

Let’s go Brandon. ✓

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Biden’s s latest delusion…

He thinks he’s the Shah of Iran…

https://thehill.com/policy/3658414-biden-administration-eases-sanctions-to-boost-iranian-peoples-internet-access/

“With these changes, we are helping the Iranian people be better equipped to counter the government’s efforts to surveil and censor them,” Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Wally Adeyemo said in a statement.”
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What could go wrong?

At least they got their priorities straight…

Do you think that Biden should be more focused on helping Americans, instead of being so focused on helping Iranians?

Meanwhile, Newsoms is focused on helping White Sharks, instead of focusing on helping Californians…

Shah.., Sharks…

Makes perfect sense, no?

NO.

Liberalism must involve a mental disorder…

People actually vote for these idiots…

Birds of a feather, I guess…

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Is anyone paying attention?

Iran Making Plans For Latin America As Nuclear Deal Nears
8/26/2022

“Iran’s play in America’s backyard” is the headline by the official government news website IRNA heralding new hopes of expanding influence in Latin America.
The article tried to give credit to hardliner President Ebrahim Raisi for making more inroads in Central and South America, particularly drawing attention to the election of a leftist president in Columbia.

Plenty more @

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202208266561

And Biden plans to give them billions $$$.

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Iran Looks To Shanghai Roadmap Amid Isolation From West
9/16/2022

Leaders at the Samarkand summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) have emphasized a long-term global economic shift away from the United States.
A global trend away from using the dollar has been more pronounced in SCO states, with non-dollarized Russia-China trade rising about 50 percent in early 2020 after being 10 percent in 2015.
But the trend has accelerated between at least some SCO states with US and western European sanctions against Russia over the Ukraine crisis. Gazprom, the Russian gas major, last week said China would pay for gas in roubles and yuan rather than in dollars and euros.
An SCO declaration Friday said that “interested SCO member states” had agreed a “roadmap for the gradual increase in the share of national currencies in mutual settlements.” The SCO – comprising China, India, the Kyrgyz Republic, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, Russia Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan – is in the process of admitting Iran.
President Ebrahim Raisi has been more positive about SCO opportunities than predecessor Hassan Rouhani, whose efforts to increase trade with Europe – including bringing energy majors to Iran – were thwarted by the US. In 2018 Washington left the 2105 Iran nuclear deal and imposed ‘maximum pressure’ sanctions that threatened punitive action against any third parties dealing with Tehran.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202209160002

So why is Biden helping Iran?

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https://nypost.com/2022/09/23/dow-falls-below-30000-on-recession-worries/

‘Dow tumbles below 30,000 as lingering inflation scares off investors.’

“Wall Street’s main indexes all tumbled to close well down on Friday, as rattled investors continued to reposition themselves amid fears the Federal Reserve’s hawkish rate policy will help tip the American economy into recession.”

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We’re sunk now.

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https://fortune.com/2022/09/23/recession-fears-dow-hits-new-2022-low-markets-sell-off/

‘Recession fears hit the Dow hard as it plummets to a new 2022 low amid markets sell-off’

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Bad News Biden…

https://www.knoxfocus.com/columnist/nbc-poll-has-bad-news-for-biden/

“The most recent NBC poll has very bad news for Joe Biden. And, as the parent of leftwing MSNBC, NBC’s polls are usually more favorable to the Democrats than most other polls.”

“The NBC News report was headlined “Biden’s job approval falls to lowest level of his presidency amid war and inflations fears.” ”

“The lead paragraph read: “Amid Europe’s largest land war since World War II, 7 in 10 Americans expressed low confidence in President Joe Biden’s ability to deal with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in a new NBC poll, and 8 in 10 voiced worries that the war will increase gas prices and possibly involve nuclear weapons.” “

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🤔🧐,

First Biden says:

“The pandemic is over”…

Then Biden says:

“The pandemic isn’t over”…

Apparently, Biden has lost it…

Because, now Biden says:

“The pandemic “is not where it was”…

😁

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/biden-backpedals-pandemic-is-not-where-it-was-not-over/

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The Dow has fallen 6,994.65, (19.12) % from it’s January high of 36,585.06, to 29,590.41.

Very close to bear territory, only 321.93 points to go…

As soon as it drops to 29,268.48, we will be in bear territory.

That could happen as early as Monday or Tuesday.

(Stocks tend to go up on Monday, and then drop Tuesday.)

Might hit bear territory by Friday…

Joe Biden did that.

The Biden Administration will probably try to redefine Bear territory, but that would require them to admit it’s Bull.

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“U.S. stocks, as measured by the benchmark S&P 500 index, officially fell into “bear market” territory in June 2022. This represents a decline that exceeds 20% of the peak value of the index. The technology-heavy NASDAQ Composite Index (which includes about 3,000 common equities) and the Russell 2000 Index of small-cap stocks both dropped into bear market status earlier in the year.

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PS: The S&P 500 is considered a better reflection of the market’s performance across all sectors compared to the Nasdaq Composite and the Dow. The downside to having more sectors included in the index is that the S&P 500 tends to be more volatile than the Dow.

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Right on schedule…

Dow slides into bear territory, again, second time in the last 4 days…

Down today over 330…

Joe Biden did that.

Let’s go Brandon.

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Stock market corrections are great times to buy

Though there are no guarantees in the stock market, buying an index fund, or a basket of high-quality stocks within a major index like the Dow or S&P 500, during a correction is about as close to a surefire long-term investment strategy as you’re going to get..

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A massive 84% of all shares held by American households are owned by the wealthiest 10%. These figures come from a 2017 study by the economist Edward N Wolff who used data from the Survey of Consumer Finances to reveal just how skewed US stock ownership is.

“It’s Wall Street greed stupid”
Unanimous Hippocampus~

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Changing the definition of a recession didn’t help…

https://fortune.com/2022/09/22/jerome-powell-message-investors-recession-unemployment-soft-landing/

“Jerome Powell has a tough message for investors: Tighten your seatbelts, because recession and unemployment are coming.”

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Balderdash! Poppycock!

Not what he said at all…

Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell says inflation fight may cause a recession. WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Reserve delivered its bluntest reckoning Wednesday of what it will take to finally tame painfully high inflation: Slower growth, higher unemployment and potentially a recession.

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The Biden Administration changing the definition of a recession didn’t help…

https://fortune.com/2022/09/22/jerome-powell-message-investors-recession-unemployment-soft-landing/

” ‘Jerome Powell has a tough message for investors: Tighten your seatbelts, because recession and unemployment are coming’ ”

“The Federal Reserve delivered its bluntest reckoning Wednesday of what it will take to finally tame painfully high inflation: Slower growth, higher unemployment and potentially a recession.”

Speaking at a news conference, Chair Jerome Powell acknowledged what many economists have been saying for months: That the Fed’s goal of engineering a “soft landing” — in which it would manage to slow growth enough to curb inflation but not so much as to cause a recession — looks increasingly unlikely.

” “The chances of a soft landing,” Powell said, “are likely to diminish” as the Fed steadily raises borrowing costs to slow the worst streak of inflation in four decades. “No one knows whether this process will lead to a recession or, if so, how significant that recession would be.” ”

” “We have got to get
inflation behind us,” Powell said. “I wish there were a painless way to do that. There isn’t.” “

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Cont.

” “So the (Fed’s) forecast is an implicit admission that a recession is likely, unless something extraordinary happens,” said Roberto Perli, an economist at Piper Sandler, an investment bank.”

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https://fortune.com/2022/09/21/long-ugly-recession-dr-doom-nouriel-roubini/

‘Prepare for a ‘long and ugly’ recession, says Dr. Doom, the economist who predicted the 2008 crash’

“One of the first experts to forecast the 2008 recession is sounding the alarm bells that another big economic downturn is on the way.”

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Biden says US is not in a recession…

Biden says The pandemic is over…

Who does Biden think he is?

Does he think he is Simon?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-says-no-surprise-economy-slowing-down-economy-enters-technical-recession

Anyone that thinks that the recession that is coming, (or that we are already in), is not going to be long and ugly, is delusional.

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https://wap.business-standard.com/article/international/economist-roubini-expects-a-long-ugly-recession-stocks-sinking-40-122092301308_1.html

‘Roubini, who has warned through bull and bear markets that global debt levels will drag down stocks, said that achieving a 2% inflation rate without a hard landing is going to be “mission impossible”
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“It’s not going to be a short and shallow recession, it’s going to be severe, long and ugly,” he said.”

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“Yet the NBER typically doesn’t declare a recession until well after one has begun, sometimes for up to a year. Economists consider a half-point rise in the unemployment rate, averaged over several months, as the most historically reliable sign of a downturn.”

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Guest. ding dong ding dong🔔
ByIsabelle Lee+Follow
July 25, 2022, 8:39 AM PDT

Economist Nouriel Roubini said” the US is facing a deep recession as interest rates rise and the economy is burdened by high debt loads.”
The dude has been saying recession since July.

You seem to forget we have already had this debate.
Does “if we do go into a recession it will not look like past recessions” ring a 🔔?

“National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) is officially tasked with identifying U.S. recessions.”

Ring a 🔔?

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When factoring whether we are currently in a recession, it’s important not to confuse job growth, with job recovery.

Many jobs were lost when COVID struck as lockdowns occurred.

There has been very little, if any, job growth since, we just got back to where we left off.

That’s a false indicator recession factor, IMO.

And it’s kind of hard not to increase consumer spending, facing out of control inflation, so that’s a false indicator as well…

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/29-months-later-all-the-jobs-lost-to-covid-19-are-back-6542485

Let’s not kid ourselves.

That would be delusional.

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What’s delusional is you thinking that article has anything to do with the US going into a possible recession.

“ Slower, but still strong U.S. job growth.”
Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 315,000 in August, and the unemployment rate rose to 3.7 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Notable job gains occurred in professional and business services, health care, and retail trade.Sep 2, 2022

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PS: read the above article again…,Jesus!
Pay attention to the words “job growth” and “wage growth”

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Wage growth is not close to keeping up with inflation so put that show pony back in the barn. Job growth as claimed is mostly reclaimed jobs from covid lockdown policies.

Don’t worry, these folks and many more will be laid off if things keep up in the current direction.

I’m sure your welfare check will keep coming in, but also isn’t keeping up with inflation.

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Thank you.

The Fed’s policymakers are forecasting unemployment rising from 3.7% to 4.4% in the foreseeable future…

About a million jobs lost…

Maybe that was for 2023, but I can’t remember…
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“In their quarterly economic forecasts Wednesday, the Fed’s policymakers also projected that economic growth will stay weak for the next few years, with unemployment rising to 4.4% by the end of 2023, up from its current level of 3.7%. Historically, economists say, any time unemployment has risen by a half-point over several months, a recession has always followed.”

” “So the (Fed’s) forecast is an implicit admission that a recession is likely, unless something extraordinary happens,” said Roberto Perli, an economist at Piper Sandler, an investment bank.”

“Fed officials now foresee the economy expanding just 0.2% this year, sharply lower than their forecast of 1.7% growth just three months ago. And they envision sluggish growth below 2% from 2023 through 2025. Even with the steep rate hikes the Fed foresees, it still expects core inflation — which excludes volatile food and gas costs — to be 3.1% at the end of 2023, well above its 2% target.”

“Powell warned in a speech last month that the Fed’s moves will “bring some pain” to households and businesses. And he added that the central bank’s commitment to bringing inflation back down to its 2% target was “unconditional.” ”

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Some people can’t handle the truth…

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Which is why you quote Laura Ingraham and The Trumpet….

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🙈🙉

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And it looks like you are right about this, too…

“Mike Konczal, an economist at the Roosevelt Institute, noted that the economy is already slowing and that wage increases — a key driver of inflation — are levelling off and by some measures even declining a bit.”

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https://forums.tcm.com/topic/271345-shallow-recession-calls-are-%E2%80%98totally-delusional%E2%80%99-roubini-warns/

‘SHALLOW RECESSION CALLS ARE ‘TOTALLY DELUSIONAL,’ ROUBINI WARNS’

“So much for what Biden and his advisors have been saying the past few days…”

“Economist Nouriel Roubini said the US is facing a deep recession as interest rates rise and the economy is burdened by high debt loads, calling those expecting a shallow downturn “delusional.”…”

” “There are many reasons why we are going to have a severe recession and a severe debt and financial crisis,” the chairman and chief executive officer of Roubini Macro Associates said on Bloomberg TV Monday. “The idea that this is going to be short and shallow is totally delusional.”….”

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645 startups w/ layoffs ∙ 81670 employees laid off ∙
[LIVE] Tracking all tech startup layoffs since COVID-19. Data is compiled from public reports.

https://layoffs.fyi/

List of Top Companies That Have Laid off Their Employees in 2022Sep 17, 2022

https://startuptalky.com/companies-laying-off-employees/

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/23/business/stock-market-today.amp.html#aoh=16640685738776&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

“Sept. 23, 2022
Stocks nose-dived, government bond prices plummeted, the pound dipped against the dollar, oil prices slumped and cryptocurrencies wobbled on Friday as investors, already worried about rising interest rates and stubbornly high inflation, started quaking at the growing likelihood of a recession.”

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Jesus wept!
“US markets have been in bear territory since June!”

What part of this are you not understanding?

You must be a Trump follower. He also believes the US stock market is an indicator of the economy.

Think The Stock Market Is A Leading Economic Indicator? Think Again

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The stock market is legalized gambling with somebody else’s money.

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Of course I’m a trump fan. There’s no arguing that life wasn’t better with him as a president it’s not even an argument you sound silly

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The Dow looks like it will plummet into bear territory for the first time this year, next week…

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Despite market fears and warning signs, many economists say the economy is simply too healthy at the moment to consider current conditions a recession.

Peter Essele, head of portfolio management for Commonwealth Financial Network, says the latest U.S. jobs report should reassure investors.

“It’s difficult to rectify how some are claiming the economy is in recession when job growth remains well above long-term averages and wage growth is the strongest in decades,” Essele said.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/is-a-recession-coming/

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Nothing to worry about guys. The economy is doing great. I think that narrative will change after midterms.

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“You can fool all of the people some of time; you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time.”
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“But what’s clear to me is that some damn fool is going to fool himself all of the time”
Some guy I met in a bar-

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“The stock market has traditionally been viewed as an indicator or “predictor” of the economy. Many believe that large decreases in stock prices are reflective of a future recession, whereas large increases in stock prices suggest future economic growth.”

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Guess you didn’t get the memo:

“We explain why the stock market and the economy are not the same.”

https://www.morningstar.com/articles/1034789/short-answer-stock-market-vs-economy

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PS:
“Think The Stock Market Is A Leading Economic Indicator? Think Again”

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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/24/health/pfizer-ceo-positive-covid-19/index.html#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16640579537040&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

‘Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla tests positive for Covid-19 again’

Takes 4 doses of (Pfizer?), and still gets COVID-19 around August 15, 2022.

Takes Pfizer’s Paxlovid and gets COVID-19 again, within 6 weeks…

Paxlovid rebound?

Says he’d hasn’t gotten the 5th shot, the bivalent booster, because it hasn’t been 3 months since he’s been sick with COVID-19…

That’s not saying much for his products, is it?

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https://www.foxnews.com/media/laura-ingraham-biden-team-fanatics-crashed-economy

‘LAURA INGRAHAM: Biden and his team of fanatics have crashed this economy’

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😂😂😂
Laura Ingraham and Fox News?

You really are scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
At least you didn’t quote Tucker Carlson.
Though their credibility is on a par with each other.

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