HCSO Investigating Distribution of Anti-Semitic Materials
Every single Aspect of the COVID Agenda is Jewish, argues one flyer.
Press release from the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office:
The Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office has been made aware of a recent increase of offensive, anti-Semitic materials circulating in our community.
The Sheriff’s Terrorism Liaison Office, in coordination with state and federal law enforcement partners, is investigating the origin of this material and its distribution within our county. Anyone with information relating to the source or distribution of this material is encouraged to make a report utilizing the Sheriff’s Online Crime Tip Form at humboldtsheriff.org/report or contact the Sheriff’s Office Crime Tip Line at (707) 268-2539.
“I would like to thank the numerous members of our community who immediately notified my office upon finding these materials,” Humboldt County Sheriff William Honsal said. “Hate has no place in Humboldt County, and we will not tolerate the use of fear or intimidation to promote a hate-filled political agenda.”
To learn more about how to identify and report hate crimes in your community, visit https://oag.ca.gov/hatecrimes.
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Unfortunately, all they can be charged with is littering.
Hate crime laws are pretty strict. This seems to fall into that category..
I hope the FBI gets involved but I doubt it. These little infections do have a way of festering.
How would these pamphlets qualify as a hate crime?
So it’s not a hate crime is what you’re saying? Did you decide it no longer “seems to fall into that category”?
No I still feel that it’s a hate crime… But it appears free speech covers these hateful flyers
Hate littering?
Ms Kemp brought up that exact thing..
Part of the problem is people not considering it a hate crime.
The Anti-Defamation League, which tracks antisemitic behavior nationwide, found 2,717 incidents in 2021. That’s a 34 percent increase from the year before. That averages to more than seven antisemitic incidents per day.
In the past year alone, assaults increased 167 percent. And we saw examples of vandalism on the rise, harassment on the rise. So I think antisemitism really isn’t just, I would suggest, a Jewish problem. It’s an American problem.
But unfortunately…
In the United States, hate speech is protected by the First Amendment. Courts extend this protection on the grounds that the First Amendment requires the government to strictly protect robust debate on matters of public concern even when such debate devolves into distasteful, offensive, or hateful speech that causes others to feel grief, anger, or fear. (The Supreme Court’s decision in Snyder v. Phelps provides an example of this legal reasoning.) Under current First Amendment jurisprudence, hate speech can only be criminalized when it directly incites imminent criminal activity or consists of specific threats of violence targeted against a person or group..
My God am I glad that you aren’t in a position of power. Your desire to change the laws to fit your passing fancy is exactly why some sort of legal bedrock like the constitution is necessary and why the legal means of amending the document are sufficiently arduous to discourage whimsy.
Thank that from which you believe your life arises that it’s not a criminal offense to have and share a distasteful opinion.
How do these pamphlets qualify as a hate crime?
They might even be protected free speech. But, I’d think littering at least is a possible crime.
If there is no call for violence, I’m thinking it’s considered free speech. As ugly as it is.
Posting that on the internet is protected free speech. Spewing it onto my lawn and the lawns of scores of others is littering and similar to pooping on your neighbor’s property–highly frowned on.
That seems possible but littering isn’t a hate crime
Nope. Though it is a hate action that can be reported to the Sheriff’s Department.
Hate Has No Place in Humboldt County’: Sheriff’s Office, State and Federal Law Enforcement Launch Investigation into Antisemitic Flyers Found Throughout the County.
Humboldt County Sheriff William Honsal said. “Hate has no place in Humboldt County, and we will not tolerate the use of fear or intimidation to promote a hate-filled political agenda.”
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2022/jul/8/hate-has-no-place-humboldt-county-sheriffs-office/
Not to be overly picky, gf. But I have the exact same press release on my website. I do know about it.
Not sure why I did that.
It just upsets me that people just consider this littering. A terrible abuse of free speech and should not be tolerated.
Things like this lead to Synagogue shootings and other anti-Jewish actions..
This has been going on across the US for over a year..
Fringe-white supremacists blamed for anti-Semitic flyers distributed in Bay Area
The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting was an antisemitic terrorist attack
Bowers had earlier posted antisimetic comments.
Survivors, Loved Ones Describe ‘Pure Evil’ of Poway Synagogue Shooter. He yelled antisemitic slurs at the 40 to 60 people there, screaming that “Jews were ruining the world.”
Have you considered your Christian Taliban comments?
They sound like stirring up hate to me.
Has that led to any Christian church shootings?
Or this? n the past year alone, assaults increased 167 percent against the Jewish community..
I have a feeling the Christian Taliban may have a hand in this..
It’s interesting how you’re claiming to be concerned about the Jewish people while you stand with those against them.
The antisemitic congress critters are on your side of the isle.
Omar, Talib etc.
And how’s Biden doing with the Death to America and Israel, Iranian deal he has Russia brokering?
Jeez, Details, Details!
And could you explain exactly what Hillary’s Happy Camps were all about?
Who exactly was going to be sent there and for what purpose?
Maybe it’s the Liberal Socialist Taliban you should be concerned about.
My side? What side is that?
Omar and Talib may speak out on certain Israeli and Jewish issues but are hardly hate filled antisemitics..
This from back in March
Iran nuclear talks on hold over last-minute Russian demands. Think they are still going on?
And you better believe Israel is perfectly capable of defending itself..
I don’t like how Israel is handling the Palestinian issue. Does that make me anti-semitic?
The Israeli government and some Jewish groups use opposition to ANYTHING Israel does to undermine the critic.
NO, it does not make you anti-Semitic! It only makes you a critic of Israeli policies, full stop.
Israel exploits their relationship to the US to get away with murder, literally, and many more crimes against the Palestinian people/ culture all the time.
So, How do you think a group of LGBTQ+ and atheists would be welcomed if they chose to live in Palestine, considering their religious beliefs?
They wouldn’t be. . So what’s your point?
Of course those same groups wouldn’t be welcome in a lot of US Christian churches..
My point is they would be just fine in Israel.
And your allegiances seem a bit twisted when you support two opposing concepts.
Palestine is (an occupied) country. Not a church, or religion.
Palestine doesn’t want peace, look what happened the last time a Palestine leader agreed to peace, they murdered him.
And we all know who is really in control of things…
Yes it has. And bombings. And certainly anti Christian attacks have been rampant in other countries. Why would anyone think that inciting violence in another group cures violence? Why become what is hated?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/first-works-baptist-church-explosion.html
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/debra-heine/2017/09/25/nashville-church-shooting-sudanese-man-arrested-fbi-launches-civil-rights-investigation-n53692
https://reason.com/2022/06/21/janes-revenge-abortion-terror-group-or-terror-hoax/
Those sites have nothing to do with hate speech directed at Christian churches.
What exactly is your point?
And please tell me what church was attacked because of my Christian Taliban comment? And read up on what the Christian Taliban is referring to. It’s not hate speech.
PS. Attacks between religions have been going on for ages. The Crusades come to mind.
You questioned has hate speech leadto Christian church shooting and I said yes. And gave links.
And don’t get started on the Crusades unless you have at least some some reading about it. Religious wars have gone on just about forever and are never as one sided as anti Christians in the US like to announce. There are some great books on the loss of Jerusalem and its Christian dominance and its long fall to militant Islam. I recommend “Byzantium (Complete 3 Volume Set): The Early Centuries, The Apogee, Decline and Fall ” by John Norwich.
“in 614,( Jerusalem) fell to an invading Sassanid army under Shahrbaraz during the last of the Byzantine–Sasanian Wars. The Persians looted the city, and are said to have massacred its 90,000 Christian inhabitants.”
“In 1095, Pope Urban II proclaimed the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont. He encouraged military support for Byzantine emperor Alexios I against the Seljuk Turks and called for an armed pilgrimage to Jerusalem.” Frankly the Western European response to Islam was long and complicated and certainly not at all
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
And speaking of hate speech, you can lay this problem right at the doorstep of the Christian Church. For centuries they have spread this anti-Jewish hatred. “Christ killer” etc.
This started when they first started coming into power, and they were trying to get rid of the competition..
Well let’s look at a country where there is no religion,
North Korea, for instance.
It seems where there is no God, someone always steps into the position,
like Dear Leader.
Or China and the Uyghurs, or China and Tibetan Buddhists.
Where there is a void, something or someone will fill it.
So, what’s your preference?
And what did the Sumerians do?
And all the other non-Christian beliefs that prevailed.
Belief in higher powers existed long before Christians.
True but a very one sided perspective. Long before there even were such a thing as Christans, Romans had their issues with militant Isrealites. In fact, much of the Old Testament is filled with it. So did the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks and Egyptians. It can’t be ALWAYS the other guy’s evil bigotry.
Romans having issues with militant Jewish Palestinians kinda got Christianity going.
Not really. Rome had a lot of acceptable foreign religions. There only requirement for tolerance was that other religions acknowledge Roman gods too as not to attack Roman authority which was closely linked to Roman polytheism. In fact the Romans considered Christianity to be a sect of Judaism. The problems they had with both was the Jews and Christians insisting there was only one god and thus undermined the Roman government’s ancient link with religion. And monotheism’s insistence that everyone else was wrong and not to be left in peace. In the end such persistent and uncompromising beliefs won out. Or rather wore out their opponents.
Well, the OT is a one sided perspective. Not saying that as criticism, just that it is (and the NT as well).
Yes. It is a reflection of what they considered important. The universal song of “Me.” What is really putting things in perspective is that their obsessions and outrage barely rose up to the notice of other powers around them until they, as a British writer put it about America becoming dominant and ending the British Empire, “history ended.” At least other history did.
Give any reputable academic link to that idea. Frankly every religion sooner or later has become a tool to be misused by those who want power or are fearful of losing it. Atheism, Animism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Confucianism, Christianity – doesn’t matter. Whether you call them Monk Warriors, Crusaders, Hindutva, Jihadism, Zionism, etc the result is the same.
It’s good to be realistic as to where religious hatred can lead and not go there. It’s very insular to think that, because you live in a historically Christian environment and so get doses of criticism about it regularly, every other institution is better and it’s safe to hate Christianity. They aren’t.
What idea?
And is atheism considered a religion? That doesn’t sound right.
I
🤔🧐”They”???…,
🤔🧐 As opposed to…, “We”???…
🤦♂️
SMH.
“That doesn’t sound right”
No it doesn’t.
Maybe keep deleting and editing…
Would that be a sign of, “a habit of hiding “their” misdeeds”???
Religion or no religion.
I think so…
Definitely habitual.
Check this out.
Researcher Helmuth Nyborg and Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Ulster, compared belief in God and IQs. Using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 people, the authors found that the average IQ of atheists was 6 points higher than the average IQ of non-atheists.
Check this out.
Quote:
“And is atheism considered a religion?”
“That doesn’t sound right”.
Unquote.
-grey fox-
“According to anthropologist Jack David Eller, “atheism is quite a common position, even within religion” and that “surprisingly, atheism is not the opposite or lack, let alone the enemy, of religion but is the most common form of religion.” “
Check this out.
https://www.us.mensa.org/read/bulletin/features/intelligence-and-unbelief/
“The reason people of profound intelligence don’t always find theism to be irrational is because there is nothing inherently irrational about it.”
“It’s neither correct nor helpful to frame theism and atheism into a paradigm of intelligence values. It shows an ignorance of religions and those who believe in them — and those who don’t — and seeks to absolve people of their beliefs by reducing their choices through determinism. Intelligence doesn’t confer prudence, wisdom, or infallibility, as hard of a truth as that is to accept for those of us who have been blessed with it. No, in the end, intelligence only allows us to process information more effectively, and it is our will that determines what our mind is given to process.”
You are just giving me other people’s opinion..
I cited a study..
Link please.
Or at least credit it…
Or it’s just plagiarism.
At least I provided you with the link.
I take my cue from the squirrel..
Citing Richard Lynn as an authority puts you on pretty shaky ground anyway. Nyborg is not so attractive either. It is always off putting when the result of a purported scientific study declares the authors to be best.
Maybe some less subjective bugbear might be useful than religion. Or IQ for that matter.
I did cite other sources. And discussing those things is healthy as long as it doesn’t get personal but stays subjective. And you even got a mention in the discussion.
Of course this is just my opinion.
As far as using Lynn and Nyborg, that’s a complicated issue. There is people that countered that study if you look. Nobody said they were the best, or I didn’t anyway.
Speaking of intelligence..
Noted atheist Stephen Hawking…
Speaking of intelligence…
49% of Mensa members are Christians…
3.6% of Mensa members are atheists…
http://mwm.us.mensa.org/faq/people.html
What did the study say..
Do you have a list of all their IQ’s so we can compare?
When socialists created an ideology based on humanism, an abstract at best, they made it a religion. At least if you consider a god to be defined as spirit or supernatural entity having control over nature and individual humans. Socialist believe that control lies with collective humanity. And they called this new god Atheism.
Humans mostly can’t help it. They must have gods. It’s in their biology. Being on your own in the universe is not something most humans can tolerate even in small doses.
You are getting into philosophical area’s that are beyond me. I guess you are explaining to me about atheism being a religion. I never really thought about it.
I guess Mother Nature could be considered my god. I do believe in Her.
I don’t feel alone in the Universe. It’s a mystery to me that I don’t dwell on. It just is..
Lei’s not forget the Hedonists, there seems to be plenty of them around.
They must have gods. It’s in their biology.
False.
What did Christ say? Just asking since He is the root of Christianity.
If you don’t agree with him, it’s not Christianity, it’s a religion.
No one takes my life, I lay it down freely?
Forgive them Father, they know not what they do?
I am getting lost here. What are we talking about?
Atheism?
I agree with a lot your Jesus supposedly said.
But I don’t believe a lot that was attributed to him was actually said by him.
I like proverbs.
Just because I don’t love your Jesus (Christ) doesn’t mean I don’t agree with him.
Ever wonder what the world would be like if he had lived
To me he was a brilliant Rabbi and teacher
I’m saying Jesus himself didn’t hold anyone responsible for his death.
And people who claim to be Christian should believe what Christ said, or they may be a religious person but not a Christian. Christianity is based on Christ and what he taught.
IMO
I may be mixed up on my thinking about this. Shouldn’t a Christian act in a certain way in accordance with this Jesus’s teachings? Or at least try to. I realize nobody is perfect..
How would I recognize a true Christian?
. “A Christian is someone whose behavior and heart reflects Jesus Christ.”
Is that correct?
The Democrat Utopia you all voted for
What do things like this leed to?
ShutDownDC, a liberal advocacy group in Washington, D.C., said on Friday that it will offer up to $250 to service industry workers in the district for every sighting of the justices who overturned Roe v. Wade.
Driving the news: This comes just days after Justice Brett Kavanaugh was forced to exit a restaurant in D.C. after abortion rights protesters showed up outside the premises.
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Not much different than bounty hunting.
He should recuse himself or be impeached.
Either way, they better get used to it for becoming political and ajuducial.
Just because you didn’t get your own way doesn’t make it.ajuducial as you call it.
I think many voters are fed up with the 6-year temper tantrum by the left and there will be some changes coming.
If you can impeach a Justice, so can the GOP when they have the majority.
Impeachment hearings need a cause:
In his 2018 confirmation hearing, Kavanaugh was questioned repeatedly about Roe and Casey.
“It is important precedent of the Supreme Court that has been reaffirmed many times,” Kavanaugh said of Roe.
“It is not as if it is just a run of the mill case that was decided and never been reconsidered, but Casey specifically reconsidered it, applied the stare decisis factors, and decided to reaffirm it. That makes Casey a precedent on precedent.”
Are you forgetting what the lefts beloved RGB said, or is that inconvenient now?
Ha! As if the Warren Court wasn’t just that. Will it ever occurs to liberals or conservatives that carrying on with political agendas is a merry-go-round. Misusing government for political short games means the next spin of the wheel leads opponents getting to misuse it too.
Well protesting is a first amendment right and those justices do hear constitutional issues. Should they be protected from peaceful protesters?
And let Kavanaugh “eat cake”
Yeah. It’s reported though that he left the restaurant (out the back door) before he had his dessert. (That said, he did get his ‘just desert’ though).
They probably gave him his dessert in a doggie bag. Which is fitting.
Doggie Bag???
Fitting???
Oh the irony…
When will it cease???
Never???
Well then, you wouldn’t mind if Gavin is tracked and run out of restaurants and people banging pans and drums all night outside his house, right?.
Because I pretty sure some people don’t want him flying people into the state for free abortions.
If people want to waste time outside the Governor’s mansion banging pots and pans fine with me. Is he even there?
Would it be fine with you if you lived next door to him, and had young children, or had the flu?
By all means, uphold the First Amendment…
How is it that you feel about the Second Amendment again?
Double Standard?
If they had used an AR15 assault rifle and shot everybody in the restaurant I would say they over stepped their !st amendment rights..
Dependably reasonable.
Let me fix that 🙂
Dependably UN-reasonable.
Did you see this?
Researcher Helmuth Nyborg and Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Ulster, compared belief in God and IQs. Using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 people, the authors found that the average IQ of atheists was 6 points higher than the average IQ of non-atheists.
Did you see Forest Gump
“Life is like a box of chocolates.”
List of Christians in science and technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology
Check it out and then let’s talk IQ’s.
The page “List of Christians in psychology” does not exist.At wiki
Ever hear of atheist Stephen Hawking?
I could give you a list of 50 intelligent atheists. The study doesn’t say that some Christians aren’t intelligent. What does the study say?
Yep, and Carl Sagan, and Darwin..
Jeez
Darwin, the God killer..
I think it’s Darwin that’s dead.
Jeez- it’s hardly worth 6 IQ points to go to Hell for eternity. I’m gonna believe in God! (Pascal’s Wager)
Good one..
grey fox,
🤔🧐It going to be a little bit difficult for me to accept that atheists are 6 IQ points higher than believers, at least until we reach 70% fully vaccinated status in Humboldt….😁
Exactly.
(I assumed the facetious font was readily apparent…)
I guess that I shouldn’t do that…
Right.
🙄
You didn’t think that I was actually being serious, did you?
🔮I figured that you might…
You actually did think that I was serious, is that correct?
G…I stand corrected. The Gary refinery was built in the mid 70s. The expansion you cited was significant. I was quoting from an energy analyst. So much “info” is weaponized these days. There is too much bad info on this site I don’t want to contribute.
You were perfectly clear, just having a little fun…
I wonder if gf will look at the list I provided and start counting to 50…. and beyond…….
I want to know which one’s IQ falls short of the atheists.
Umm any special reason you posted a link to a wiki site that doesn’t exist?
Forget the humor font?
I don’t follow your links, they lead to spoof sites. How do I know that isn’t a Wiki spoof site..
You can’t find Wikipedia and type in the subject all by yourself and see what’s there, or are you afraid you stuck your foot in it and don’t want to find out the answer.
You won’t follow my links, but think I would follow yours. lol
Here I’ll narrow it down for ya…..
That’s a much shorter list.
And when somebody tells you to look up, they don’t mean look up…🙄
(facetious font…)
Wow, atheists are so much funnier than believers are, too…
My knee is never going to be the same…
You still don’t get the 🙄
You will figure it out eventually…
What’s to “get”?
There is really not much there.
I already figured that out.
No you haven’t. Instead of looking up try looking down..⬇️
Look at my thumb….👍…
I posted a shorter list, but Kym has to approve it, I’m sure she won’t approve a spoof.
Then I’ll wait for your next excuse.
LOL read the study again. What does it say..
And Ms Kemp has to approve it? That’s reassuring…
And I am not going to look at any lists you post. It’s meaningless. You and Guest took this waaaay to seriously..I posted the study as a joke. Didn’t you see the facetious font?
A 10-year-old who sat a Mensa IQ test has beaten both Albert Einstein’s and Stephen Hawking’s scores.
Freya Mangotra from Birmingham took the test in October when she was 10-and-a-half – the youngest age people are allowed to sit the test.
You should read what Wikipedia has to say about Lynn and Nyborg, the authors of your study claiming atheists have a 6 point higher IQ…
“Scientific racists” would be putting it mildly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn
Here’s a juicy tidbit…
“In 1995, Lynn was quoted by the media watchdog group Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) saying: “What is called for here is not genocide, the killing off of the population of incompetent cultures. But we do need to think realistically in terms of the ‘phasing out’ of such peoples … Evolutionary progress means the extinction of the less competent. To think otherwise is mere sentimentality.”
Helmuth Nyborg doesn’t have that much better of a reputation…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_Nyborg
“Nyborg is a controversial figure among the Danish public for his research on topics such as the inheritance of intelligence and the relationship between sex and intelligence. His article in Personality and Individual Differences, in which he reports a five-point average IQ difference in favour of men,[1] has led to strong reactions in the Danish public and academia, for example in an editorial by the Danish newspaper Politiken.[2] In 2011, he argued in an article that migration from third world countries to Denmark would cause a dysgenic effect on the country’s average IQ over time.[3]”
“In his research Nyborg has argued that white people tend to be more intelligent than blacks,[4] that immigration from non-Western countries leads to a decline in the average intelligence of the receiving Western country,[5] and that atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people.”
compared belief in God and IQs.[3] Using data from a U.S. study…
Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations elsewhere on Wikipedia. As a user-generated source, it can be edited by anyone at any time, and any information it contains at a particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or simply incorrect.
I am off to watch a Amazon Prime movie..
By Nyborg and Lynn.
Consider the source.
Both of them have been more or less discredited.
Especially Lynn.
Look them up.
“Scientific racists”…
You might want to choose a couple of different representatives…
They don’t sound very respectable…
They sound pretty damn whack to me…
🤔🧐Yep. Nyborg and Lynn…
A couple of real excellent role models…
Mentor material, even.
The proud boys would be proud…
Off to watch an Amazon Prime Movie? Again?
Bowing out so soon?
I see a regular pattern forming…
Hey guest, don’t look there, look at this shinny object over here.
A good psychologist is a rare find.
Kind of like that truly rare teacher that made a difference in many lives.
Wow, just wow! Yep, he stepped in it.
Now backpedaling….
Yep. With both feet, bare.
Squish!
Not gonna clean up that easy…
It’s funny how fast he’s backpedalling, and claiming it was all just a joke!
That’s actually the funniest part.
Did you check the link I posted? It’s pretty remarkable how many and who are sci-tech believers.
Anyway, I found it interesting.
I did just check it out…
And yes, it’s a very impressive list…
There is really no comparison.
Many more recognizable names, too.
The IQ thing was a stretch, for sure…
High IQ turns academics into atheists
Intelligence is a predictor of religious scepticism, a professor has argued. Rebecca Attwood reports.
Clearly another joke…
I should have listened to Darwin..
When I said I was joking I was being sarcastic. Didn’t you see the sarcastic font?
You are really going to repeat more of Richard Lynn’s bullshit?
I guess that stepping in it once wasn’t enough…
Wikipedia was kind to him compared to SPL.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/richard-lynn
“Richard Lynn is one of the most unapologetic and raw “scientific” racists operating today, arguing, among other things, that nations with high average IQs must subjugate or eliminate lower-IQ groups, which he associates with particular racial groups, in order to preserve their dominance”.
At least he is relevant on this article…
He has also researched egocentric bias, finding that people significantly overestimate their own importance in group discussions….
“A drowning man will clutch at straws”
-Thomas More-
(1534)
The irony of you using that phrase..
The irony of you using the word “irony”.
I’m just curious, which people?
“He has also researched egocentric bias, finding that people significantly overestimate their own importance in group discussions….”
First look down, then look up..
I’ll give you an easy 3 step answer..
1)Look up.
2)There is a link.
3)Click it.
“I also do not overestimate my own importance in group discussions.”
So, how would you rate it?
And who was the comment directed towards?
(It was a reply to “Guest”.)
Of course, there are examples of extremely intelligent individuals with strong religious convictions. But various studies have found that, on average, belief in God is associated with lower scores on IQ tests. “It is well established that religiosity correlates inversely with intelligence,” note Richard Daws and Adam Hampshire at Imperial College London, in a new paper published in Frontiers in Psychology, which seeks to explore why.
As predicted, the atheists performed better overall than the religious participants, even after controlling for demographic factors like age and education. Agnostics tended to place between atheists and believers on all tasks. In fact, strength of religious conviction correlated with poorer cognitive performance.
Here’s a sample test question…
What say you?
No cheating!
“A bat and a ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1.00 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?”
Is this the kind of thing you profess to be better at?
World leader material!
How much, grey fox?
Thought for the day….
Is God an atheist?
“That depends on whether God is aware that God is God. If God is unaware of that, then God is likely an atheist.”
Quora—
“Of course, there are examples of extremely [un]intelligent individuals with strong [un]religious convictions.”
[un] ‘Frontiers in Psychology’
More from ‘Frontiers in Psychology’
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6927908/
Intelligence is defined as general cognitive problem-solving skills. Since the days of Binet, psychologists have agreed that intelligence is much more complex than a single number and may be in fact divided into many subcategories. This is where the IQ test falls short. A Canadian study published online in the journal Neuron concluded that the IQ test is “fundamentally flawed,” seeing that its questions “grossly oversimplify the abilities of the human brain.” The report identified three indications of human intelligence: short term memory, reasoning skills, and verbal ability. None of these skills are at all accurately measured in the traditional IQ test. So what does the IQ test accurately measure? Well according to Laci Green, host of DNews, “What the IQ test did measured was how well Westerners might do in Western schools.”
While the IQ test may give an indication of general intelligence, it can’t measure the entire complexity of the human thought process. Creativity, emotional sensitivity, social understanding, and various acquired skills such as music or art, are excluded from test’s measurements of intelligence. If you’d like to get an idea of your IQ take this test, but just remember that whatever your score be, it doesn’t necessarily define how smart you really are.
https://www.medicaldaily.com/iq-test-accurate-way-measure-intelligence-or-are-mental-abilities-something-you-cant-put-297244
CBS News
IQ scores not accurate marker of intelligence, study shows
Could IQ scores be a false indicator of intelligence?
Researchers have determined in the largest online study on the intelligence quotient (IQ) that results from the test may not exactly show how smart someone is.
“When we looked at the data, the bottom line is the whole concept of IQ — or of you having a higher IQ than me — is a myth,” Dr. Adrian Owen, the study’s senior investigator and the Canada Excellence Research Chair in Cognitive Neuroscience and Imaging at the university’s Brain and Mind Institute said to the Toronto Star. “There is no such thing as a single measure of IQ or a measure of general intelligence.”
More than 100,000 participants joined the study and completed 12 online cognitive tests that examined memory, reasoning, attention and planning abilities. They were also asked about their background and lifestyle.
They found that there was not one single test or component that could accurately judge how well a person could perform mental and cognitive tasks. Instead, they determined there are at least three different components that make up intelligence or a “cognitive profile”: short-term memory, reasoning and a verbal component.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iq-scores-not-accurate-marker-of-intelligence-study-shows/
A new study argues that the score reflects both motivation and intelligence. Kids who score higher on IQ tests will, on average, go on to do better in conventional measures of success in life: academic achievement, economic success, even greater health, and longevity.
“For every argument there is a counter argument”
Unanimous Hippopotamus–
Yes I am an atheist. I do not consider myself more intelligent than everyone.. At best I have an average IQ. There is plenty of people smarter than me. That includes some on here. I also do not overestimate my own importance in group discussions As I have stated before,” the internet makes everyone look smart.”
I merely posted articles I found interesting. These are studies, they can be debated. You are responding..So we are having an intelligent discussion.
Don’t take it personally.
And what did you think of my thought for the day?
For the record I consider common sense and street smarts as a marker of intelligence.
How about deductive reasoning?
I am more into inductive or abductive reasoning myself.
But that’s just me.
You could use all three I guess..
I think there are many components to intelligence.
Who can say an autistic child that has perfect recall of a musical score he/she heard and can duplicate it isn’t exceptionally intelligent?
Even though other skills may be lacking.
I think the human mind, and it’s thinking is a mystery to those who pretend to understand it.
And there is intelligent animals. I have seen studies done with Crows and Ravens
that showed what great problem solvers they are.
No worries gf, I’m not taking it personally.
I have long maintained, Especially to Nooo that people shouldn’t be labeled.
We are all unique individuals.
As far as believing in God, I have nothing against atheists, everyone has the right to choose.
It’s not my job to”save” anyone, God is big enough to do that without my help. But I won’t deny my position either.
Don’t know why anyone would want to saddle kids with an IQ score to begin with.
To me, it just creates superiority, inferiority complexes, and leads those who work with those kids to biased opinions.
Kids mature at different rates, reasoning changes with experiences.
Are they well traveled, have they never left their neighborhood?
This all would affect IQ tests, but not reflect intelligence.
🤔🧐”I do not consider myself more intelligent than everyone”…🤔
What exactly does that mean?
. “Kids who score higher on IQ tests will, on average, go on to do better in conventional measures of success in life: academic achievement, economic success, even greater health, and longevity.”“For every argument there is a counter argument” and here it is…..
“Most Innovators are School Dropouts – Time for the Education System to Unlearn
Rabindranath Tagore attended college for only one day and left law school after a few months. Bill Gates decided to withdraw from Harvard to set up Microsoft in 1975. Steve Jobs quit Reed College after just one semester. Mark Zuckerberg dropped out of school in 2005 to work on thefacebook.com. Jack Dorsey dropped out of NYU in 1999, founded Twitter in 2006. Sachin Tendulkar dropped out of school to pursue cricket and is now ‘God of Cricket.’ Jan Koum dropped out of San Jose State University to work for Yahoo and then founded WhatsApp. Daniel Ek lasted only 8 weeks at college before founding Spotify. David Karp left high school at 14, launched Tumblr in 2007. Ritesh Agarwal, the founder of OYO Rooms, dropped out of college to sell sims, became the world’s second-youngest billionaire in 2020. Mukesh Ambani cut short his Ivy League education to join his family in running Reliance.
These are just a few of the many successful innovators who once decided they were better off without a formal education. Surprisingly, it ended pretty well for them.
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I disagree with this also, even though it makes a point.
I define success differently.
Foremost, they might want to separate religion from belief in God, they are not the same thing.
🤔🧐And when someone tells you to look at their thumb, they don’t mean , look at their thumb…,👍😁
Nope! Just well coordinated PROTEST!
What’s (delightfully) SHOCKING is that moderates and/or the left are using aggressive tactics, like the Republicans/the right have done for years and years!
Yes! Find the 6 right wing, lying Justices and protest against them as much as possible!!!
Protesting against people is a dangerous path. Imagine if protesters were to follow a doctor who performed abortions to a restaurant and yell that she was a baby killer and disrupt that person’s and all the other patrons’ meals. Where would you stand on that? I’d be against it. I intensely dislike what I know of Kavanaugh and his decisions. I’d support an individual refusing to be his server as I would the waiter to the the abortion doctor doing the same. But when multiple people gang up on one person or even a smaller group of people, that is dangerously like mob rule and vigilante justice.
Like the anti-abortion protestors?
Where clinics have to use escorts to protect women from protestors.
Speaking of doctors I believe a clinic doctor was murdered by a pro-lifer. Bet that Dr wishes the dude that murdered him had just protested outside his restaurant.
WASHINGTON — Nine anti-abortion protesters were indicted and accused of invading a reproductive health care clinic here in October, the Justice Department said.
The nine people “forcefully entered the clinic” and set about blocking two doors to the medical facility using their bodies, furniture, chains and ropes, the Justice Department said.
I would rather they just protested outside the restaurant where the clinic workers ate.
The pro-abortion people sound pretty tame to me.
2 wrongs don’t make a right.
And according to an earlier post if Kavanaugh is injured the whole group that offered $250 for sightings will be held responsible for any harm, correct.
Don’t forget, one man already went to his house with the tools and intent to kill him.
Also, you would be typing like mad if someone in deep red Montana put out a call like that on Gavin while he’s Va Caing there.
3 lefts make a right.
And are you done editing?
Anyway pro-abortion protestors have a long way to go to catch up with all the wrongs done by anti-abortion people.
And you really don’t seem to have a clue about my political preferences.
LOL..Worry that somebody might protest outside a restaurant that Gavin was eating at? Hardly..
I am done for the night.. “cya wouldn’t want to be ya”
Just kidding!
I’m not sure of your point…
People we don’t agree with did bad things so people we do agree with can do bad things?
I hope not.
A bad thing?
Like I said, protesting outside a restaurant is pretty harmless as far as I am concerned. And like TRB said, they stepped into the political arena by their biased ruling.
I wonder how many people in the restaurant agreed with the protesters. Would like to see those details.
Don’t you also wonder how many people in the restaurant didn’t agree with the protesters?
And here we are where people shot people over not enough catsup for their French fries. We got there through little steps where the envelope of what is unacceptable has been pushed and pushed and pushed as long as people can claim it is in the service of good.
Don’t you think that journalism should take some of blame for that? Care to back track a bit on it being ok to violate the law if it is “a bad law?” Trying get rid of a bad law is good thing but condoning routine disregard of law at an individual’s discretion means de facto no law at all. It should be a matter of great reluctance. Certainly not for commercial gain.
Perhaps this is unwarranted but an dividing of things so sharply into good and evil is not only a failure to see nuances that absolutely exist in real life but that failure to see nuances also deeply flaws your thinking, blinding you to the way most things in this world exist in a push me pull you of both positive and negative outcomes. I think your obsession with journalism being at least a partial root of all evil is so oddly constructed that I’m struggling to figure out how a news story like that which broke Watergate is intertwined in your mind with someone with a blog bloviating on any subject. You seem to lump that all together as one thing.
And you do the same with “anti-vaxxers” so that thatguyfromArcata’s reasoning is the same reasoning as Hot Coffee’s is the same reasoning as Guest, is the same reasoning as rollin. They are not the same people and they do not have the same arguments. Nor in journalism is Woodward and Bernstein’s value the same as Alex Jones.
As to breaking bad laws—breaking laws has both good and bad outcomes. Breaking the marijuana laws led to both good and bad–for instance, it supported a counterculture that pushed for more positive environmental changes both personally and in regulations from the government and vice versa it led to a culture in which people looked the other way at obviously criminal (as opposed to illegal) behavior. Being aware of how laws are used by the government to oppress people (the drug war was racist and used to prop up the Nixon administration and it fueled our migrant crisis and mass incarceration, particularly of minorities) crisis, leads to the thinking that breaking bad laws can lead to better laws.
According to Nixon advisor, John Ehrlichman, “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news…”Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
Was it worth it to be part of the underground backlash against government oppression and destruction of lives for their own corrupt ends? I think it was. You may not.
Whoopee! My “flawed” judgement of journalism comes from seeing the persistence of most journalist not being willing to address nuance at all. Hate Trump? Then the article is a bunch of cherry picked words to prove it. Love Trump and ditto. A reader has to get many stories from many sites just to even have a chance of understanding.
Or substitute pot for Trump- same thing. Taking flawed judgement (and I’m not going to waste time looking as to the completeness of your words) for some who wants to misuse an issue to gain does not prove the value or harm the issue has innately. I personally think pot use has many negatives. The nuances of which you routinely ignore. Basically you are doing the same thing anti vaxxers do to rationalize their comments. They ignore the nuances big time to focus on their fact of choice and dismiss the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
But even that is not the point I keep trying to make and you keep dismissing. The point is that, while misusing a law is bad, creating a belief that is okay for individuals to rountinely ignore laws at their discretion because they innately have that right is many times worse. It destroys respect for the law much faster and much more widely than any malfeasance. It is an idea that everyone can apply equally to every single law they find inconvenient. For some it may stay being willing to jay walk, which is not without harm, but no worse. But for other it means pummeling to death old man who they feel disrespected them. Laws are there to be a check. To break them weakens those checks and to promote the breaking of laws for everyone is death by a thousand cuts.
Keeping in mind nuance, mind you, this does not mean an evil law should be followed slavishly. Which seems to be the interpretation you apply to me. But it should be a solemn, thought out moral choice on big items. Not a “up yours” that is what your rose colored glasses about counter culture really is and lead the country to the point where compromise has become confused with weaselly. No compromise, no peace which seems to be the slogan of the hour.
A thought for you about the realty of nostalgia for one’s youth- many military veterans have a tendency to remember the camaraderie of war while trying to suppress the horrors it. I remember the counter culture too and it literally and metaphorically stunk more than it glowed.
Noo, pot use does have negatives. So does alcohol use–in my opinion many more than marijuana. Marijuana also has positives. I’ve watched people with mental illness successfully use it to cope. (I’ve watched people with mental illness get worse also–life just isn’t simple.)
I’m aware of your point that breaking bad laws can lead to breaking good laws. I agree. I pointed it out here: As to breaking bad laws—breaking laws has both good and bad outcomes. Breaking the marijuana laws led to both good and bad–for instance, it supported a counterculture that pushed for more positive environmental changes both personally and in regulations from the government and vice versa it led to a culture in which people looked the other way at obviously criminal (as opposed to illegal) behavior.
I also would say and, you ignore, that breaking bad laws can lead to better laws. Civil disobedience has a long history of change for the better–see Gandhi. Breaking marijuana laws helped restore legality which is leading to a number of medical benefits, and, I believe, societal ones. You have yet to acknowledge that.
I remember the counter culture movement–I remember Martin Luther King, jr., Women’s Liberation, pro environment, and Anti Vietnam protests as well as rampant drug abuse, woo woo spirituality, Charles Manson, etc.
I’m not sure what stunk more than glowed. But I am sure that our society leaned some valuable lessons that we would be the poorer for not having had…and a lot of those lessons came from people breaking rules and laws. The rule I have about breaking rules is be sure it is the right thing to do–stand up for yourself if you did the right thing but…be aware that you could be wrong.
So growing marijuana could have been wrong…I definitely see some of the downsides. But, as a whole, I’m glad to see where the rule breaking took society.
Those people you call anti vaxxers most of them have been vaxxed many times, a nuance you’ve never to my knowledge admitted. It seems to be deliberately antagonistic and disrespectful, not to mention lacking nuance.
And to be frank, you give the impression of thinking you’re above everyone else.
Laws are crucial to a civilized society.
Yet that requires lawmakers that apply those same laws to themselves,
not demanding people wear masks, stay away from family for Thanksgiving, while they wine and dine together without any thought of the life altering restrictions they just placed on others.
In almost every aspect of life we see the laws are applied to the little people, not to the lawmakers.
Did you read the San Jose Mercury when we learned just who was saturating the country with crack cocaine?
The president’s son is a drug addict, doing business he has no experience in, in China, that just happens to be flooding our country with deadly fentanyl.
There are people that smoke or ingest a little pot at night for pain relief, since the government has stopped doctors from providing any, and then there are people lying in the street dying from fentanyl poisoning.
With all that’s falling apart in the world, we have a society obsessed with what pronoun they will be called, rather than issues like the 3rd world starvation that will be the result of Ukraine and Russia’s war.
The additional homelessness that with come from inflation, and the cold people will suffer when they can’t pay their heating bills.
There is no telling the danger those justices would be in if the decision went the other way.
A protest outside a restaurant would be the least of their worries..
It’s more than the camel’s nose in the tent. There is not much of the civil limit camel left outside at this point. What goes around, comes around when standards of civil behavior are lowered. And defending such behavior at all costs in the name of an agenda leaves everyone vulnerable in their turn.
True, but …
The decision was the other way for 50yrs and I never heard of anyone protesting the Justices.
Maybe you could tell us when that happened.
RGB would be ashamed of what’s going on.
But the anti-abortion protestors sure took up the banner. And used a lot of violence to express their views..
Found this..
Chief Justice Warren Burger Talks About His Hate Mail
FEBRUARY 18, 2014
He voted for the original Roe vs Wade. And was a conservative judge.
Sure the other judges received their fair share.
It’s not a new thing
I don’t condone violence on any side.
I agree.
That would be stalking.
I would at least want the folks behind it identified so business owners could at least know not to hire them. They may not have facial tattoos yet to identify them for that purpose.
That may be, it seems like a waste of sherrifs office resources to me personally as there doesn’t appear to be an actual crime going on here.
I am curious about the littering claim even. What makes this fundamentally different than some religious group leaving their literature on my door or a lawn care company leaving a flyer on my door? Or are those just overlooked and accepted forms of littering too?
Overlooked and unacceptable also, and an important point in my mind, unlikely to make people feel threatened. One of the reasons I posted this story is so a Jewish person picking up one of these baggies wouldn’t think they were the target of hate–they would know that this was a general broadcast not one aimed at making them in particular feel unwanted. Religious tracts dropped onto properties freestyle seem non threatening but maybe that’s because I’ve seen them before. These flyers would make me feel like my borders had been invaded with someone else’s mental illness.
Bear with me as I think by typing…
How about…?
Hate littering…
Spewing hate at unsuspecting bystanders…
Allowing hate to fall into the hands of minors without their parents permission. Surely if a school nurse can’t hand your kid an aspirin without your permission, then randomly scattering hate literature where small children can find it, is exponentially worse.
I’m not sure that I think posting these flyers in public places like bulletin boards is actually illegal but…I also think its grounds for public shaming–their photo and name posted perhaps?
But I do think putting them on private property without permission is at a minimum littering.
todah rabah. (in Jewish cultures) Thank you; many thanks.
I agree with you on both the flyers and religious material.
“Surely if a school nurse can’t hand your kid an aspirin without your permission,…”
This brings up an interesting point. While the nurse needs permission for an aspirin, teachers and schools can teach CRT, groom children to be rainbow worshipers, help children obtain vaccines, and even help them get a sex change… all without the permission of the parents.
“Parental consent laws for vaccination vary by state and region, The Associated Press reported. A few places, such as Philadelphia and Washington, DC, allow kids 11 and older to consent to their own COVID-19 vaccines. In San Francisco, people ages 12 and older can give consent.”
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20220124/california-bill-kids-vaccinated-without-parental-consent
Personally, as a former teacher, I think kids 8 and older are capable of deciding if they need an aspirin but we all have different ideas of what kids are capable of.
Are kids 8 and older capable of deciding that they DON’T need an aspirin?
Wouldn’t those same kids, then, be capable of deciding that they DON’T need a vaccine?
I’d say 12. But, then of course, they’d also be capable of deciding that they do need a vaccine without parents’ consent which was where Lou seemed pretty Unhappy with.
In my experience children are much more capable of saying no, than they are of saying yes.
Always if anyone says no, as far as consent, it must be honored, no matter the age.
And I disagree with your assertion that at what age they can say “no”, in any way correlates to when they can say, “yes”.
Those are two very different concepts.
Remember it’s not just some kids that would be capable of making a proper informed consent decision, at a particular age, it would have to cover virtually all of them.
The question must be asked…
How old do kids have to be before virtually all of them, at that age, are capable of proper informed consent for a vaccine…
Aspirin might be12, but for the vaccine, or for any other medical procedures, 18 should be the minimum, IMO
Non parental consent at 12 for medical procedures is totally out the question as far as I am concerned, including a vaccine…
I could approve of something for my child that was a minor, but I cannot approve something for someone else’s minor children, nor would I wish to.
18 is the minimum, IMO, and that should remain the law.
There is a very significant difference, between the maturity necessary, of someone saying “no”, (ideally, it must be honored, but as a parent, some medical exceptions would, of course, apply), and what kind of maturity is necessary, before someone can appropriately say “yes”. That “yes”, if inappropriate, must never be taken for “granted”.
And there is no way that kids can be trusted as far as being aware of their complete medical history, and any allergies or contraindications, as far as a medical procedure.
That’s what parents are for, for what they are worth.
I would say kids 8 and 12 are more influenced by peers than actual medical information, and parents should decide. Aren’t the parents responsible for any medical bills if there are complications?
Don’t the parents have to care for the child if complications arise?
It seems the State wants to make all the decisions for kids and leave the parents with the costs and responsibilities for damages.
I’m thinking more of if a kid wants medical intervention and other appropriate authorities (such as doctors) agree, then the kid, whose body it is and whose life is most affected, should be able to make the decision even if parents disagree unless they can present compelling reasons otherwise.
Christian Science parents come to mind..
I agree with you by the way…
So if a school nurse and one doctor decided to put a child on Ritalin against a parent’s wishes, you would be on the side of the school?
And can the school persuade the child to go against the parents?
A child decides to rebel against their parent and……
I can imagine a future of many kids being taken by CPS, parents with huge legal bills and time off from work to argue over who has authority over their child.
Everyone loses except lawyers, and abortions increase, because who wants to live like that.
Letting them die: parents refuse medical help for children in the name of Christ
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/followers-of-christ-idaho-religious-sect-child-mortality-refusing-medical-help
Members Estimated
106,000 in the United States in 1990[2] and under 50,000 in 2009;[3] according to the church, 400,000 worldwide in 2008.[n 1]
Wiki
I suspect less in 2022, and how many of those do you think are children?
The parents, of course, could appeal the decision. And, being not a fan of Ritalin, this is a hard one for me. But parents, kids, outside adults all can make bad medical decisions. But only the kid has to live intimately with the results of that decision. If parents of an 8 year old have so little influence on the kid that s/he are inclined to follow medical authorities (not just random adults here but medical authorities) rather than their parents, I’m guessing that more often than not, that the child’s best interests are served by doing what the child wants.
I strongly disagree,
Not all parents can afford to legally challenge the state, which has unlimited resources, and political intentions.
Once you break the chain of Authority between child and parent, the child may become susceptible to the influence of any older person….
Be they a child molester, drug pusher, or any inappropriate influence.
You can’t just unglue a bond and then glue it back together as you please, especially after harm has been caused. It’s the parent the child will ask, why didn’t you protect me, I was only 8yrs old.
I do agree it will affect their child for the rest of their life.
It will affect the parent for the rest of their life also.
Somehow I don’t think it’s the kids asking for this, hmm
Im full on board with a law banning unsolicited messages delivered to our residences. It ought to include the shit they send through the mail. Seems to be about 75% trash and recycling at this point in the mail box.
For what it’s worth, I think that you’re goal of airing this crap out for public shaming and to help avoid an individual feeling as if they were targeted is the best approach in terms of spirit and actual efficacy. The types of people that propagate these ideas of a single insidious group of people working to destroy the rest of us thrive on perceived victim hood. When these people are formally censored or punished for this speech it only serves to strengthen their perception of victimization. Let them be publicly mocked for wasting precious printer ink and oatmeal on some juvenile trash.
Hmm,
I consider how Citizens with property on the border must think about the constant trespasses on their property.
Ok but then anyone putting out pamphlets is guilty of littering to
Yes, if you put unasked for pamphlets on private property. No, if you put up flyers etc on public space bulletin boards etc.
Hating the haters seems to fall into that category also
What specific crime(s) do you (or anyone who cares to weigh in) think could be charged?
If a shooter has a history with particular extremist groups online, anyone who has distributed promotional materials for said group should share criminal and civil liability.
If a person is involved in a gang related shooting and can be shown to be a dedicated fan of some musician who makes music celebrating gang life should that musician bear criminal liability?
Short answer:
No.
But your question is vague and general.
No different than yours.
What is “a history”, what is “[a] particular extremist group”, what are “promotional materials”, what does it mean to “distribute” them, and what does it mean to “share criminal and civil liability”?
This is where the rubber hits the road for free speech issues. It’s all fine and good to propose that “bad” ideas should be banned and punished but it’s little more than a platitude. Walk me through the mechanics of that program. There’s scarcely a legal idea that is more susceptible to political abuse.
Well articulated!
How about an antifa or BLM member spray painting people’s buildings, or looting stores?
Someone more capable than Sheriff Antifa-buses-are-coming needs to be leading this investigation.
It would not surprize me if there was a deputy or two involved
Preferably someone who can ‘Find Their A$$ with both hands & a map’, which Sherriff Antifa Busses are coming cannot!!!!
This is comical. Thank you for the good show!
Why has Joe Biden shipped nearly a million gallons of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve to China? The Biden family has an investment interest in the Chinese company that received the US government oil.
88% of Americans say Biden has put our country on the wrong track.
Wrong again. No surprise.
1 million barrels of oil would last the US 1.5 hours.
No impact, other than on your idea of what matters.
It was also sour oil, but don’t let facts get ya down.
He won’t..
And as you can see, where ever he goes it’s about Biden.. (who has been living rent free in his head for months)
I am surprised he isn’t blaming Biden for the hate flyers.
BDS in full flower
Why not. Biden has the most racist, bigoted past of any elected official ever. Likely he would be cheering to himself behind all the things he says only because of the liberal puppet strings he is attached to. He hasn’t fooled me or multitudes of others. He is still one of the most despicable pieces of human trash ever to walk the earth.
That’s a little extreme, even if you don’t care for the man as president. He’s a decent guy, who has given his life to public service. That’s worth something, in my book.
Does “given his life to public service” include the Biden family reaping tens of millions of dollars influence peddling and lobbying for adversarial foreign governments? Sounds like a business not public service. And why does Biden have US taxpayers bankrolling 80% of the Ukraine resistance effort and the EU a paltry 20%? The fight is on their doorstep and the EU should be picking up the lion’s share, not leaving American taxpayers with a trillion dollar tab for Biden’s Ukraine Strategic Blunder. We’ve got domestic priorities, America first.
Joe Biden did that!
No he is racist and is in no way a good man. Ridiculous!
He has not one shred of decency. If anything, my description is not harsh enough.
Wow. I must step in and say something. I went to the University of Delaware in Newark, Delaware where I “got woke”. Read a lot about the corporate history of Delaware from way back in the days of factory towns run by DuPont where the families were subjected to horrific chemical spills. When they protested they were shot down by militia…Delaware is the state where DuPont has it’s international headquarters and it is also the state where most predatory lending corporations are based. I’ll kkep it short by stopping there. Biden was a Senator from Delaware from 1972 to 2008. 36 years! To think that he is not working for these companies and is a wonderful public servant is…well, naive at best. Sure- his history has been whitewashed. But you should actually read a bit about Delaware history and politics before you spout off. Joe Biden is not your friend. It was a dark day when the DEM party nominated him for president…
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Should read Nancy Pelosi’s family history in Baltimore also.
Thanks- I will! Education, reading and learning are good things! Baltimore has some corrupt background for sure. I appreciated Pelosi’s stance against offshore drilling on the CA coast and some other environmental issues. Doesn’t mean she’s always correct or pure. Or even good. And I am highly suspect of what the DEM party has become…
Funny how I got 2 downvotes but no debate. Read history and educate yourself is basically what I’m saying. How can you downvote that?! Or hit me with something I didn’t include. You know- it’s entirely possible to be disgusted by both Trump AND Biden at the same time….
You are right! I don’t see who really believes anything Biden says.
Funny simpleton downvotes. Truth is that even DEMs don’t want Biden. He is rapidly converting many DEMs into REPs. But he was always more of a predatory REP in DEM clothing anyway….Also- REPs don’t want Trump to run! I’m cool w/ kicking them both to the curb and slowing the drama…https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-joe-biden-new-poll-run-election-president-1717171
I’m curious if you are sure about your understanding of the definitions of the words “MOST”, and”ANY”. You ok?
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Thats hardly the point joe biden was inserted into office to wreck us. So whoever is really running our country can start again without our constitution. If that oil would make diesel or even lubricant. This is not the time to ship it to an enemy. If its only 88 % that see he is sinking our economy WTF is wrong with the other 12% ??
If his family stands to profit from selling our reserves thats insider trading at least. Treason is more like it. But no doubt the morally void will argue that
US companies export 6 million barrels a day of refined petroleum products including gasoline and diesel.
Corporate greed did that-
Just as hate caused those flyers.
Biden is exporting oil to Communist China.
Echo chambers are boring, unintelligent and opposite of original
Well, I just checked LOCO and there’s been 2 comments in the last hour that might not bore you.
No echo there. hmm, isn’t that where you wanted everyone to go?
Looks more like they came here.
Your talking about 1.5 hrs every day.
Why would Biden cause the United States to come to a screeching halt for 1.5 hrs every day?
In order to line his pockets?
That means the equivalent of 1 out of every 16 Americans going without without fuel every day.
That has an impact, regardless of your idea of what doesn’t matter.
It definitely matters.
Maybe you should volunteer to go without fuel every day?
You call it ‘sour” oil.
That makes no difference, because…
It’s “OUR” oil. Let’s keep it that way.
And exporting refined petroleum products should be immediately curtailed until domestic refined petroleum becomes affordable again.
And you don’t get that it was NOT refined, it was sour crude.
And even still:
The US uses 20 million barrels per day, everyday.
1 million barrels is absolutely nothing.
Sorry to interrupt the hissy-fitters out there.
Right…
As if you weren’t comparing it to sweet.
The proper term would be crude oil, if you were comparing it to refined oil.
Spin it all you want.
If the oil is so useless, why are we keeping useless garbage oil in our strategic oil reserves? That should be the bigger issue although BiDUHn selling our strategic oil reserves to our enemies to companies Hunter had previous dealings with should warrant a federal investigation.
It’s not useless.
It needs refinement, and refiners in the US are bottlenecked.
But again, one million barrels is an hour of US consumption.
The whining is absolutely silly on so many levels.
The last new refinery in the U.S. was built in1959. Here’s the price at the pump for a gallon of gasoline in May of this year. Highest…Hong Kong-$11.00…Norway-$9.64 Denmark-$9.32…Greece-$8.71….Cheapest Venezuela-$.08….Libya-$.12….Iran-$.20. You see in the “Free” world petroleum prices are manipulated by whatever the market will bear. The President of the U.S. doesn’t even have a seat at the table. Big oil did that.
Meanwhile oil and gas executives are raking in windfall profits while consumers suffer at the pump. Last year, four of the major oil companies—Shell, Chevron, BP, and ExxonMobil—posted record profits, totaling $75 billion. In the fourth quarter alone, ExxonMobil was bringing in $97 million dollars in profit every day.
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/5-reasons-why-the-united-states-cant-drill-its-way-to-energy-independence/
Indeed Dave, Big Oil did do and will keep doing that.
“The last new refinery in the US was built in 1959.”
Really?
(Hogwash?)
Evidence please…
Here are 20 of just the latest, since 1975!
I’m talking major refineries. I don’t know what your list is but a medium size refinery produces more than all on your list put together. I can tell you that those have zero effect on pump prices. The biggest U.S. refinery processes over 600,000 barrels a day. The biggest CA. refinery at Carson does over 300,000 a day. I doubt many on your list even produce gasoline.
You didn’t say that.
Now you are changing your story …
Typical.
How Fauci-esque!
(Hogwash)
Link please.
Evidence please.
Sure thing Dave..
This is from 2010…
https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_04be809a-1393-5b9c-871c-3d82158580dd.html#:~:text=gallons%20of%20fuel%20.-,The%20refinery%20produces%20gasoline%2C%20diesel%20and%20kerosene%20as%20well%20as,manager%20of%20Marathon's%20Refining%20Division.
“The refinery produces gasoline, diesel and kerosene as well as asphalt from crude oil.”
“The expansion also establishes the Garyville facility as the fourth-largest refinery in the United States, said Rich Bedell, manager of Marathon’s Refining Division.”
At least make it a challenge.
That was way too easy.
I just picked this one from “my list”.
You could maybe use a new set of encyclopedias. Ones that don’t list JFK as President…
Yep.
Sooo bottlenecked that they are exporting 6 million barrels a day of refined petroleum products…
Makes perfect sense…🤦♂️
They just can’t crank it out any faster, so we should pay more, or go without.
There is simply nothing that can be done.
Whining?
That’s nothing compared to the ones that are about to blow a gasket…
Nationally, and even with some regions undergoing planned facility maintenance, American refiners are running at 93% capacity.
Along the Gulf Coast, utilization is 95%, and on the East Coast, 98%.
https://www.afpm.org/newsroom/blog/refining-capacity-101-what-understand-demanding-restarts
It’s the excessive export of refined petroleum that is causing the bottleneck.
Is that really so hard to understand.
Curtail exports of refined petroleum products…
“Bottleneck” problem solved!
It’s so simple, yet it’s somehow difficult to understand and accept?
SMH
🤦♂️
Obviously the way you put it, you made it sound worthless.
(I wasn’t the only one that read it that way.)
Exporting crude oil, isn’t going to “un-bottleneck” our refineries.
Exporting 6 million barrels a day of refined petroleum products proves that isn’t the truth, in any way.
And that crude oil will never come back to the United States as refined petroleum products.
And that is the truth.
Nope. The US does import refined petroleum products..
In 2021, the United States imported about 8.47 million barrels per day (b/d) of petroleum from 73 countries. Petroleum includes crude oil, hydrocarbon gas liquids (HGLs), refined petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel fuel, and biofuels.
Your confusing the import of “refined petroleum products” that DON’T include crude oil, with the import of “petroleum products”, that DO include crude oil…
They are not the same, so can’t be compared.
🔮I’m sure that you won’t accept that correction, even though it’s correct…
“Refined petroleum products” imported vs “petroleum products” imported equals…
apples vs oranges…
We exported almost twice as much refined petroleum products as we imported, by dollar value, in 2020.
That crude ain’t coming back.
The “petroleum products” that you mentioned that we import, don’t necessarily come from crude, especially not our crude, like LNG, which would be included in your “petroleum product imports, but not in our “refined petroleum products” exports.
Are the facts too confusing?
150 red flags at the treasury is an investigation.
And it ain’t good or Yellen wouldn’t be hiding it, and the Dems wouldn’t be changing the rules on getting it.
Exactly.
Oh, and here:
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTEXCH1&f=M
Trump loved China sales too. Look at the skyrocketing of sales during 2017 and 2018…..then Covid19.
Don’t let facts break your fall.
Oh, and just more deflection and smokescreen, to conceal a correction.
Common.
Trump filled the strategic reserve…
Don’t let facts cloud your vision.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTEXCH1&f=M
All trump did was fill the toilet. His only brush with energy policy was that weird sword photo op with the Saudis.
The line to get into the arena for the Save America rally with Donald Trump in Anchorage, Alaska.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YP8m8by4v0&t=31s&ab_channel=MustReadAlaska
Do they ever show how many people show up to listen to Biden?
We were energy independent and a net exporter. Gas averaged less than $3 a gallon under Trump. If after 18 months of this shit show you still hate Trump? Then your commitment to stupidity is impressive.
It was 55 cents under Nixon.
Bring him back!
(Gas prices for Presidents are stupid arguments)
Complete bullshit, gas hasnt been under three dollars a gallon in ca in almost twenty years
Pretty sure he was quoting the national average $2.39 a gallon when Biden took office jan 20, 2021
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W
Trump was able to strike win win deals all over the world, even North Korea, and the crooks hate him for it.
It messed with many 10%’s, not just Bidens.
Is that what Alex and Tucker told you?
Woopsie!
https://www.google.com/search?q=foxconn+jobs+after+trump&oq=foxconn+jobs+after+trump&aqs=chrome..69i57.10601j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie
Seems Trump also had a math problem.. And you can bet he got his cut of the deal..
That reminds me, it’s been days since I first asked you for the proof that I ever posted from the sources you claimed I did.
Still need more time, or just going to let your lie stand?
Yes, wait forever.
Sour oil is what gulf coast refineries were designed to refine.
You make it sound like it has no value in the US.
Sour oil can actually be more valuable than sweet oil, depending of different factors.
“Even where refiners are capable of processing light/sweet and heavy/sour, the economic calculus of which is best to process is constantly shifting.Moreover, and worth noting: even where a refiner can use light/sweet for a percentage of their total processing, their refineries always need some portion of heavy/sour”.
East coast refineries are tooled for sweet oil.
“In recent years, crude production has risen dramatically in Canada (heavy, sour crude) and the United States (high-quality light, sweet crude), providing these types of oil to U.S. refiners. The new U.S. production often sells at a discount to poorer quality crudes because of storage and transportation constraints. Refineries across the country are developing strategies to acquire the new domestic crude streams to replace more expensive imports of high-quality crude oil. Gulf Coast refiners are also seeking more access to Canadian crudes to replace declining supplies of heavy, sour crudes from Mexico and Venezuela (Venezuelan crudes, while heavy, tend to have lower sulfur content than Maya).”
Let’s not forget those 150 red flags at the Treasury Dept.
Biden Sold Oil From Emergency Reserves To Chinese Gas Giant Tied To His Scandal-Plagued Son
On Wednesday, Reuters revealed that more than 5 million barrels of oil from the nation’s Strategic Petroleum Reserves were sent overseas as part of President Joe Biden’s latest release initiated in March.
Some of that oil went to India, some to the Netherlands, and some was sent to China where the president’s son has engaged in years of potentially criminal business activity embroiling the Biden White House in scandal since the 2020 campaign.
more
On Thursday, the Washington Free Beacon published new details about the Chinese oil shipments from the U.S. emergency reserves that Biden promised were tapped to “ease the pain that families are feeling” in the United States from high energy prices.
…….
“The Biden administration sold roughly one million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to a Chinese state-controlled gas giant that continues to purchase Russian oil, a move the Energy Department said would ‘support American consumers’ and combat ‘Putin’s price hike,’” the Beacon’s Collin Anderson reported. “Biden’s Energy Department in April announced the sale of 950,000 Strategic Petroleum Reserve barrels to Unipec, the trading arm of the China Petrochemical Corporation. That company, which is commonly known as Sinopec, is wholly owned by the Chinese government.”
Sinopec is also tied to Hunter Biden, whose private equity firm, BHR Partners, bought a $1.7 billion stake in the company seven years ago.
Hunter Biden’s lawyer told the New York Times in November that the president’s son, “no longer holds any interest, directly or indirectly, in either BHR or Skaneateles.”
According to the Washington Examiner, however, Hunter Biden remained listed as a part-owner of the firm as late as March.
That’s so crazy he’s releasing the reserve strategically, instead of letting me burn it in my Suburban. I guess Biden is the the most extreme, demonic filthy mean all powerful, profoundly boring, weak, strong, evil, sensitive peace-nic angel of death of all time. TO INFINITY. so there
What’s your point with the sour oil comment?
Check this out.
It’s not like we don’t need our sour oil reserves.
Quite the contrary…
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=8130#:~:text=In%20recent%20years%2C%20crude%20production,of%20oil%20to%20U.S.%20refiner.
“In recent years, crude production has risen dramatically in Canada (heavy, sour crude) and the United States (high-quality light, sweet crude), providing these types of oil to U.S. refiners. The new U.S. production often sells at a discount to poorer quality crudes because of storage and transportation constraints. Refineries across the country are developing strategies to acquire the new domestic crude streams to replace more expensive imports of high-quality crude oil. Gulf Coast refiners are also seeking more access to Canadian crudes to replace declining supplies of heavy, sour crudes from Mexico and Venezuela”
We need that sour oil!
Don’t let the facts get you down.
We only store medium sour.
Go fish.
🎣
🤥
“We only store medium sour”
🤥
Wrong again. That’s false.
We store both sweet and sour.
Most recently 60% sour, and 40% sweet.
The sour is going quick.
Too quick.
Biden is not to be trusted.
The strategic reserve will be difficult if not improbable, to refill.
Biden is about to go begging the Saudis for sour.
No shit.
I posted those facts. You have them because of me.
Here’s your link you need.
If you’re going to use my comments, post a link, I like seeing you leech of me.
https://kymkemp.com/2022/07/06/1-new-hospitalization-291-new-cases-during-past-seven-day-period/#comment-1536363
Regarding your post about “Heavy Sour”, I replied we only store “medium-sour”.
But of fucking course I know we have a 60/40 ratio, I just posted that !
It’s the facts confusing people..
A day late a dollar short comes to mind..
And what’s going sour is certain people’s posts..
It’s not a mixed 60:40 ratio.
There are 4 storage facilities, with numerous storage areas, each. There are separate storage areas for sweet, and separate storage areas for sour…
It’s not like it’s all mixed 60/40.
That’s what you implied.
We need that sour crude that’s getting exposed.
Bottom line…
No shit its not mixed!
NO ONE SAID THAT EITHER!
FFS
Train wreck!
Uninformed trying to inform somebody that is already informed…..
It’s kind of tough.
Matter of factly saying that I’m waiting about 12 hours for half my comments to appear at times, the other half 12 more hours.
I’d like to be part of the conversations but Kym has more important matters.
It does seem you have been on monitoring for a long time, unless this is new issue
New issue.
I posed an everyday conservative arguement to HC in the form of a question and Kym thought it was over the top, regardless of my prefacing the whole thing with “I don’t agree with this arguement”.
It didn’t break a rule, but Kym didn’t like it.
She won’t respond to me, so I have no idea how long it’ll last, what other rules that aren’t written that I may break, and so on so on.
I’m trying to be patient about it.
Where did you post that?
I sure didn’t see it…
I’ll give you an easy 3 step answer..
1)Look up.
2)There is a link.
3)Click it.
That’s what I thought.
Like I said, I didn’t see it.
You didn’t “post” it, you “linked” it…
(That remains to be seen).
Maybe this will help…
1) tap it yourself.
2) cut and paste.
3) presto!
And since you’re on moderation, it isn’t really fair, so I will leave you alone.
I linked to my comment!
Your semantic games are over the top wastes of time.
It’s the look up part he missed. He read that and looked up at the ceiling..
🙄
I am sure he will appreciate that. Can I sign up?
🤔🧐A few choice insults would probably do it…
Then again, you could simply elect to become invisible…
Me either.
Has Donald Trump ever used his lilly soft hands to pump gas? Do you think DJ actually has any idea what fuel costs?
Actually it was Granholm who couldn’t answer that question when asked.
You really believe Biden? You still buy his lies?
But indeed that is what happened. Dismissing it as a drop in the bucket doesn’t change that. And he had the tools to do it as the current law allows to do at his discretion.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-us-reserves-head-overseas-gasoline-prices-stay-high-2022-07-05/
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/14/us-bans-exports-china-oil-459311
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/05/us/politics/us-china-export-controls.html
What “is what happened”?
https://kymkemp.com/2022/07/08/hcso-investigating-distribution-of-anti-semitic-materials/#comment-1536837
Probably explains why the price of gas is now dropping. Wait, what?
I thought that hydroxy Clore Quinn would have killed the parasitic Biden worm that’s eating these victims brains.
Says he that two years later still has a massive case of TDS.
I never see this discussed, so thought I might mention it. Chloroquine and hydroxychloquine can cause a degeneration in the retina – chloroquine retinopathy – with regular (even short-term) use. This damage can emerge long after cessation of the drug’s use. If you are regularly taking this drug without medical supervision, you should see a qualified ophthalmologist as soon as possible. Especially if you have no idea what you are doing as far as proper dosage. The risks are degeneration in visual acuity and night blindness. These are incurable once they occur.
A very good warning.
Thank you.
You’re (!) welcome!
And Trump said, What have you got to lose?”
Sight, would you believe?
He sure was a jackass.
Yes he is a jackass, but the country was sure running better, in fact the world was running smoother.
AND no one was mandated to take it.
It’s also used all over the world, and I haven’t heard of a mass epidemic of blindness, like I have of heart issues and blood clots.
That being said Penguinn is right to post the warning,
It was, and that’s actually pretty scary.
It’s not doing so great now. But I don’t see how a return to Trump will return things to “honky-dory-ness”. Biden has been a disaster, but we will never know how things would have worked out or not under Trump for an additional term…
I’m not sure when the slide really started, but it seems like COVID was the final stra, affecting both Presidencies.
Things were pretty out of balance in America, compared to the rest of the world, and things aren’t looking too good now…
I guess we better just count our blessings. Things could be much worse.
Most of the hundreds of millions of people around the world who have taken hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine (usually for malaria or some other infectious agent) prophylactically have only taken it over a short-course. The dosage is set and the medication is easily available. There are no issues as this is a very safe drug when taken as prescribed for these purposes. I do not really know, but my sense is that some in this country may be taking these drugs for extended periods of time and in completely unknown quantities. People who take the medication by prescription in this county are far more likely to be taking it for lupus, or a lupus-related condition, or for some cancers. It has to be taken regularly and usually for extended periods. All I can tell you – from first-hand experience – is that if you are taking one of these drugs here under medical supervision, you are monitored for retinal damage. Of course I never said or suggested there was a “mass epidemic” of blindness, because there isn’t. Just as there is no “mass epidemic” of heart issues and/or blood clots.
The point is that everything we do in life carries associated risks. People need to know those risks to the greatest degree possible and then make an informed decision as to how they wish to proceed.
I completely agree, as I said, it was good that you point out potential issues. And any drug or combination of drugs can be a health issue.
The vax can also cause harm.
I also stand by the fact many around the world take HCQ without any announced harm.
I would discourage horse paste or dosing without knowledge of what you’re doing.
I personally have some from a pharmacy, but I haven’t had the need to use them. I got very sick 11/2019, I suspect it was covid, I just slept and stayed hydrated for about a week and gradually got well.
This whole comment section is so off topic you people on here really arguing about Biden and trump wow
Every comment section of every article in the USA, gets taken over by these moronic off target useless rants
They also get the most comments and participation.
LITTER WHO WHAT WHERE .???? DID YOU HAVE A OFFENSE FOR THE RETALIATION OF NOTHING IS A BED OF LITTER 🚮🚯 SPRAY THEM LIKE A CAT MARKING IT TERRITORY ..?
i wonder if the flier maker would have been more successful in raising awareness about their issue(s) if they would have refrained from putting the star of david on the foreheads of some of those individuals, which does seem kinda offensive for going door to door… personally im not opposed to discussing some of these issues, like whos who in the biden administration, and disney, pedophilia grooming, and covid lies. maybe this flyering was done covertly by someone who wanted to alienate discussion of any of these issues. its all only about the antisemitism apparently, as far as the vast majority of comments go. is it completely the fault of the fool flier maker, or are people generally triggered by antisemitism? and could this be the work of social engineering, or brainwashing, telling us how to react and what exactly to focus on?… i dont know. its interesting, and i do sympathize with all jewish people who worry about being persecuted just for being jewish. i also worry about our gubbernmint and its chief executive and his advisors, disney pedophilia grooming and hollyweird generally, and maybe especially, covid totalitarianism… but there will be no thought of anything except antisemitism unfortunately. heres a forbes article about the original non khazar black jews getting force sterilized when they tried to move to the (jewish?) homeland. it always makes me laugh when my old friends think im a racist. complete reversal of the truth is the jNew World Order of the day. and in case you missed it michael chertoff from 911 is our brand new department of homeland security’s Disinformation Board head appointed by biden after the epic fail of the new programs inauguration. maybe the HCSO could enlist his aid to fight this scourge of terror in scotia. https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/?sh=57fd097d67b8
Thank you Chief Honsal for taking this hatred seriously.
I’ll never understand why or how anyone can hate someone else simply because of that person’s race or ethnic background.
👍
What happened to freedom of speech and freedom of press. Like I said commifornia. Now y’all are getting it. I don’t care what that paper says freedom of speech is the back bone of this country, period. I’m not saying I agree with what is said on the paper but you should have the right to say anything you want in this country whether it be ignorant or smart or racist or religious or positive or negative. Anything! Don’t like what they are saying well you have the right to speak back or say nothing at all you can say they are dumb or ignorant if you don’t like what they say. But your right is to have a voice and to speak freely.
I’m pretty sure that people’s right to say what they want does not include them tossing hate speech onto your lawn. No one has the right to take a dump on your property.
I agree you have a right to have a voice and to speak freely, but not to place it on people’s private property unless that person solicits it.
But I think that way about junk mail and spam phone calls too.
The content of this thread is disturbing. To see how many people have been propagandized against Biden, who IS a weak, ineffectual, supporter of the military industrial complex and the status quo system, but is NOT ‘the worst human do walk the earth’, nor does he have “the most racist, bigoted past of any elected official ever”, etc etc, is disconcerting. People will believe whatever they are told once they align with certain news sources.
Our system of communications is broken and our political dialogue is broken. The question is WHO or what group /country benefits from perpetuating such LIES?!!
WEF, Council on foreign relations, trilateral commission, bilderburg group, anyone who wants to prop up china as the new middle class profit pyramid scheme. You know, the real and verifiable 1%. The problem is many of your friends and neighbors are just too plain stupid to see the controlled demolition of our country and the artificially inflated importance of the new group the military industrial complex and banks will fleece for the next 100 years.
There is that pesky first ammendment we have to deal with though. But not to worry, the Spremes are working on nullifying it.
And the Dems are working on nullifying the Spremes unless they can rig the court in their favor.
I recall the outrage of commentors when the truckers were protesting, but now are all good with protests outside the Justices homes.
Its disturbing that so many on this thread are defending National Socialist Party, and Nazi Propaganda. Their leaflets are threatening, and make Jewish people in our county feel unsafe. Im not jewish and I feel threatened by the NSP desire to stir up hatred. It gives me the creeps. Its not ok to do that. Fuck those addle brained meth heads, bringing their ugly third reich revival bullshit here. They need deprogramming.
Free speech includes stupid speech.
Unfortunately yes..That should be made into a poster.
Yep, that’s just one of many
But it shouldn’t be a motto.
I was reading the Trinity Journal today and found myself disturbed by the news;
Active shooter training this week in 3 local schools.
We are finding it more normal to teach teachers how to drag dead students or decide which to students to leave behind in a shooter scenario rather than sell less guns to less people.
This guy knows what I’m saying:
https://youtu.be/mJBlgIA3K24
Reality diverges from your assertion.
Both domestically and around the world.
That’s a negative.
https://www.google.com/search?q=more+guns+less+deaths%3F&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&
Always trust the American Enterprise Institute! But why stop in 2013?
“From 2019 to 2020, the overall firearm homicide rate increased 34.6%, from 4.6 to 6.1 per 100,000 persons.”
I was waiting to ask him if he figured much out about the years they chose?
Buy that would only be the beginning of the break-down of AEI stats.
Violence and/or the threat of violence is how this system is based.
Punish the economic means of the common folk, and let’s see how much violence is needed to keep this system intact.
Although I tend to have a different opinion on what is being passed off as governance.
Personally I think Covid is more off a Satanist/Global banking cartel one world government agenda being pushed. They are only saying it out loud plain as day, go check out the Dr. Evil wanna be Klaus Schaub. He is head of the world economic forum, and every little puppet screaming build back better was once a member of his young global leaders group.
Maybe it was Don, Jr. “Taking the easy route is easy,” Junior said. “It would have been easier, as I said, to just build buildings in New York, be loved by everyone, not get involved, not get in the game, but I couldn’t do that and live with myself, frankly. I believe in this stuff too much. I appreciate those freedoms.”
Jeez….
The National Association of Hispanic Journalists (NAHJ) responded on Monday to a much-criticized comment by first lady Jill Biden calling the Latino community “as unique as the breakfast tacos here in San Antonio,” saying that the remark was culturally inappropriate.
“We are not tacos,” wrote the NAHJ in a statement criticizing Biden.
“NAHJ encourages Dr. Biden and her speech writing team to take the time in the future to better understand the complexities of our people and communities,” the group added.
Biden made the remark earlier Monday at the 2022 UnidosUS Annual Conference held in Texas, where she spoke on the Hispanic “Quest for Equity.”
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Seems they didn’t appreciate being called Latinx either.