Protestor holding a hanger overhead. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
Thousands of protesters across the nation took to the streets yesterday holding signs and chanting slogans after the U.S. Supreme Court handed down one of the most controversial and anticipated decisions in their history. Yesterday’s decision overturned Roe V. Wade and allowed states to ban abortion.
North Coast Representative Jared Huffman said, “This decision by the radical SCOTUS goes against the will of the people and has hurled the U.S. down a terrifying path of stripping away fundamental freedoms. We cannot accept a world where our future generations have fewer rights than those that came before them.”
He joined a number of prominent Democrats in passionately repudiating the decision. Representative Ilhan Omar, for instance said, “The reversal of Roe will be recorded in the history books in the same nauseous tones as decisions like Dred Scott, Korematsu, Plessy, and Buck. This is an institution that has legitimized slavery, concentration camps, and eugenics. This decision is the same.”
On the other hand, many abortion opponents were ecstatic. Former Vice President Mike Pence said, “Today, Life Won. By overturning Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court of the United States has given the American people a new beginning for life and I commend the Justices in the majority for having the courage of their convictions.”
And closer to home, Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Roger Rees, the only counter protester at yesterday’s pro choice rally at the Humboldt County Courthouse in Eureka, called this a “wonderful day.” He said, “We are now in a position where the states get to decide if they are going to allow the killing of innocent human life.”
Below are images our reporters captured at yesterday’s rally held in front of the Humboldt County Courthouse in Eureka.
Over a hundred abortion rights supporters gathered at the courthouse Friday after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
Eureka City Councilwoman and candidate for Humboldt County Supervisor, Natalie Arroyo who spoke at the event, stands in the crowd of protesters wearing pink. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
One demonstrator came dressed like a character from “The Handmaid’s Tale.” [Photo by Mark McKenna]
Woman holds a child and a sign at yesterday’s rally. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]
Members of Clergy for Choice attended the rally. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
Though a large number of the crowd were women, a number of men participated in the protest, also. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]
Don’t like abortions? Get a vasectomy read one of the many signs. [Photo by Ryan Hutson]
A supporter of Abortion Rights raises their fist as they honk their horn while driving by the Courthouse on Friday. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
A lone Pro-Life supporter and prominent attorney, Deputy DA Roger Rees, showed up to the protest Friday. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
The crowd listened as Eureka Councilmember Natalie Arroyo spoke in support of the right to choose. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
A man held a sign reading, “No Forced Pregnancy.” [Photo by Mark McKenna]
Handmade signs vied with preprinted posters to capture passersby’s attention. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
Symbolizing the concerns pro choice proponents have about women dying trying to preform abortions, a spray painted large coat hanger adorns a banner displayed during yesterday’s protest. [Photo by Mark McKenna]
Note: Although witnesses on the scene reported hundreds of protesters at yesterday’s rally, a count from photographs shows the number is more likely less than two hundred.
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That’s silly. Nobody was forcing anyone to get one. Were all here because that’s what most people want, to have a baby. If you don’t think abortion is the right choice, don’t do it. If it’s so obvious, and clear cut, you wouldn’t need a law. Do you need a law to control the decisions of the women in your life? Do you need shenanigans to elect lying activist Supreme Court justices to force a change in an accepted ruling that goes against popular belief? If so you have a fragile position.
You’d think people who were horrified by that idea would be horrified by using the government to impose their beliefs as anti abortionists. Surprise, surprise! Turns out despite their grand pronouncements they really didn’t believe it at all.
Except when the Senate acts in bad faith by refusing to consider an appropriately nominated candidate when President Obama had nearly a year left on his term and then rushed through Barrett’s nomination just a few weeks before an election.
If the Republicans take control of the Senate after the mid-term elections, you can bet that no candidate for the Court will be considered for the remaining 2 years of the current administration. And if a Democrat wins the next presidential election, they’ll continue to stonewall for an entire term if they can get away with it.
Those tactics worked well in Germany during the 1930’s. Somehow I’m not at all surprised to see the GOP using the same playbook. After all, their Demi-god kept “Mein Kampf” by his bedside. 🙄
The only funny thing is their standard bearer (as judged by sad boy wearing the red MAGA style shirt)soft handed born rich NY tv celebrity Don Jon Trump, has had more of his prospective progeny aborted than 99.9% of the population. It raises the spectre that it’s a red herring issue to motivate ignorant fundamentalists. While this is getting re hashed Trump’s out there spending all your campaign contributions on bailing his fails, and not even committing to running again! Ol can’t shoot an elephant at point blank Wayne Lapierre took all your donations now too, and spent it on his fluffy ass! What a bunch of simple marks.
Only thing the orange baffoon had going for him was, he wasn’t a career politician. Wait til the next non career politician wins the presidential seat, the day is coming quick. Ole Joe is seeing to it, he’s gonna fast track it , crack me up. Bye free loaders
Do you know how much money Musk has gotten from our government ? Free loaders? And honestly, I truly admire and appreciate what Musk has done for space travel (NASA) as well as for electric cars. The amount of $ he receives is breathtaking . You should be much more concerned with that, than with some disabled person or a family in dire need of funds. To literally feed their family and keep them in a house.
and the orange guy played an even shittier game than all the other shitty guys. I know you say you’re only around 50, but I’m starting to think you’re in the boomer years. Also, you should start charging rent to Brandon. Or is it sleepy Joe? Or is it o’l Joe? Maybe my own brain is slipping, and I should put knee pads on or something.
The musks are who i was talking about, but if you feel disabled people should be on the list too then thats ok. I include anyone that gets a government check without working for it. You assume too much bud, the orange baffoon had a good circus going but ole Joe trumps his hands down. Crack me up. Like i said , if a non career politician gets to the white house with half a brain, people are going have to start making a hard honest living, no handouts for backpains or big business for supposively being green. All the same, budget surplus , freeloaders hit the road.
I see your more of the career politician type, same type for the last 60 years, that’s gotten us here. Time for change bud, no government has been proven to last forever, just like the weather it goes in cycles.
Let’s hope for the good of our nation, that republicans run the board, in the 2022 and 2024 election cycles and stop the destructive and ruinous policies of the left. Remember the democrats blocked a supreme court nomination of Bush using the same tactics. Don’t get me wrong, both sides of the aisle act in bad faith much too often. Let’s drain the DC sewer with term limits and return power to the people.
Weak argument these days. How would it have gone if Obama was afforded his responsibility to select during his term. Not just select; the Senate never even had a hearing. How would it have gone if Trump was denied a nomination as well just because it was his last year?what if Kavanaugh and Barrett were able to speak to their convictions at hearing, instead of lying?
Are you then among the cohort so willing to forget that trump never got a majority of the vote….in either election. He did not and does not represent a majority of voters.
You do realize that there will be absolutely no change to California’s abortion laws and policies. The court’s controversial but expected ruling gives individual states the power to set their own abortion laws.
What they don’t realize, is it will be easier and be able to abort later in a pregnancy here in California. People these days have no foresight. Supreme court just did California pro abortion people a big win, but they don’t even realize it, crack me up.
Dude, have you ever known anyone in your life who had an abortion? Did they ever talk to you about it? Have you ever known anyone who had a late term abortion? Have you talked to them about it?
I’m not trolling. I’m truly asking you if you’ve ever known anyone who had an abortion, late term or early on, because either way I can assure you, no one in those situations felt like it was an easy fix . NO ONE.
IT IS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM A LAZY CONTRACEPTIVE.
it is truly the most unpleasant, traumatic, heart breaking form of reproductive autonomy. It’s also very painful. We don’t do this on a whim, it’s a very hard decision to make. Stop believing these Facebook memes that make it out to be some sort of easy out for “sluts”. Abortions are not easy, ever. They hurt our hearts, our bodies, our minds.
Also, please stop trying to spread the idea that late term abortions are just given Willy nilly. You can’t just roll up, with no reason and ask to abort a late term pregnancy. It has to be something very dire, and I think you know that.
I said nothing in favor or against abortions bud. All i said is California will loosen its abortion rules in the next 90 days , BECAUSE NOW IT IS UP TO THE STATE. You don’t have to preach to me about pros or cons of an abortion, I’ve got no skin in that game, i got cut along long time ago. I raised my kids , changed thousands of diapers, took a year off work just to be with my kids when they were young, took them all over the nation as kids . Put them through college, bought them cars , houses and gave them careers to be proud of. If someone thinks they need an abortion, fine, i really don’t care either way.
Your comment makes no sense. Most people who are speaking out about a woman’s right to choose what they do with their bodies are of child bearing age. Roe v wade was 49 years ago. What does that mean? Our mothers had the choice to have an abortion and didn’t! We are pro-choice and not pro-abortion!!!!
So, what you’re saying is denying women control of their bodies is justified because it insures a steady supply of labor? Or is that cannon fodder?
I seem to recall you ranting about your right to control your body and not get vaccinated. Your potential to kill hundreds with your careless, selfish actions never seemed a factor then. 🙄
A series of polls by YouGov found that Americans don’t know much about abortions in general, like when abortions are typically performed (in the first six weeks), who gets them (people with kids), and how prevalent they are (42 percent of unplanned pregnancies end in abortion). The number of abortions in the US jumped 8 percent from 2017 to 2020, after decades of decline.
These “pro life” idiots don’t realize that abortions numbers don’t change if abortion is made illegal, it’s just that it will be less safe and we will lose more living mothers and what’s inside of them.
Didn’t Kavanaugh and Gorsuch just commit perjury too?
People have children when they are ready. People still want kids, when it makes sense. Unwanted children end up as meth heads if they are poor and in perpetual therapy if they are well off
If someone supports a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy to pursue a better life, wouldn’t they also support a man’s right to abandon his child for the same reason?
It’s self righteous fanatics like you that have reduced the US to a theocracy. If that word’s too big for you it means you’re cheering for sharia Law, but from a different book.
If you’re a woman you’ve just been made a second class citizen. Next you’ll lose access to birth control and eventually your right to enter into a contract.
Just like the good old days. 🤪🤬🤬
If you grow up in the ghetto wearing hand me down thrift store clothes, with no father and a crackhead prostitute mother, who slaps you around and tells you she wishes you were never born, going to school hungry, unable to read, selling drugs, in a gang and end up in prison. Your mother should have had an abortion!
For example the life of judge Clarence Thomas started exactly like that. Until a fateful day when after their house was destroyed by fire and his mother then remarried, his grandfather took over his care ..His father had abandoned the family to go north when Judge Thomas was 7 years old, and his harried poverty stricken mother sent him to live with his grandparents in Savannah, the first time he lived in a house with a toilet. His success, he has told friends, was due to his grandfather’s insistence that he go to school and work hard.
It troubles me that life has thoroughly gotten harder for so many. The idea of having a family and raising a family has become a very difficult financial choice.
It troubles me that our children have become a resource to be exploited.
It troubles me that reproduction is seen more as a problem, rather than a solution.
So much energy fighting the invisible chains of mental slavery.
You know that most of them are in China and India, right?
China’s women are fighting to have more than 1 child.
And those having a pity party here might reflect on the lives of Uyghurs women.
yeah Im aware of general human population distributions, so what?
Referring to the protesting of our supreme court no longer being a democratic institution is stupid and insulting, no idea how you see this as being related to the Uyghurs.
Division of People who are controlled by the very same system that has moved their agenda farther ahead than ours#
The Revolution will not be televised
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Prometheus
1 year ago
All this is wasted effort over a decision that will change absolutely nothing related to abortions in California. Now it’s just an issue of States Rights…It is sad to see so many protesting, to murder their unborn children, when birth control is such a viable option.
My judgment from the pictures of the pro-abortion crowd is that none of them should have to worry about having an abortion. Severely overweight with purple hair and metal stuff hanging out of your face and disgusting meaningless tattoos is the perfect pregnancy prevention.
All you folks who want women to “choose life” so you can shoot the kid later…just don’t get an abortion. If you feel like every woman must have every pregnancy, then figure out a way to make that decision, the next 18-20 years, easier. If raising kids weren’t such a struggle for so many, nobody would even consider an abortion.
“If raising kids weren’t such a struggle for so many, nobody would even consider an abortion.”
Lol. If working wasn’t so time consuming, no one would be poor.
Raising children is harder, harder than almost any other long term thing people will ever commonly do in life.
Don’t start things you can’t or have no will to finish.
Don’t start a fight you can’t win.
Don’t put more on your plate than you can eat.
Don’t take risks you can’t pay out on.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
Don’t make promises you can’t keep.
Take responsibility for the risks you take. If you don’t think sex can lead to conception, pregnancy, and child birth, go talk to people who can tell you how it works.
What if you are raped? Some states are making it illegal to abort a stillborn. A lot of red states are actually making contraceptives illegal.
Also “don’t have sex if you don’t want to get pregnant” is pretty repulsive when you are putting the burden entirely on the woman.
What if you are married, have a bunch of kids and have no legal access to contraceptives in a red state. Just keep cranking out babies cause it’s your duty as a Christian mother? The extreme example of that is the Duggar clan. Is that what you want America to look like? Pedos cranking out babies into a society that provides no help?
Life is sacred for conservatives until the baby is born, after that they are on their own because it is somehow evil to provide a social safety net for citizens?
A couple of legislators from Ohio and Missouri tried to include terminations of ectopic pregnancies as also illegal. One especially moronic male legislator tried to get a requirement that an ectopic pregnancy be “reimplanted”. A bunch of idiot men deciding what’s best for the wimmins and the blastocysts, even though an ectopic pregnancy is a fatal thing.
I’m not surprised they’d go after any form of birth control.
I don’t feel like every woman should have a pregnancy. I think that’s a really bad idea. And who wants to shoot kids? Only monsters do that. I’m sorry, but you aren’t making sense
People who have sex should use the necessary precautions/protection. If you get drunk or are fooling around and forget about protection and precautions and end up with a pregnancy, both parties should do the responsible thing and bear the brunt of the outcome, not the innocent even if unborn child. However, regarding this ruling, all it does is return the subject of abortion to the states to make their own ruling. You live in Cali so your fine. Chill.
Still not getting your point. Is it people get shot? Or kids grow up? I mean most people don’t get shot in their lifetime and we all start as babies, and grow into kids, and someday adults. So what are you saying exactly, spell it out for me, remember, I’m ignant.
The schizophrenia between the two pillars of the Republican party. I mean the public rallying points of being pro gun and anti abortion. Guns are used to kill people. I’ll listen harder to a Quaker or somebody’s opinion on abortion, who is at least morally consistent on killing in general.
I’m not a Republican. In fact, I think republicans are a much bigger problem and a lot less intelligent than democrats. Probably the least intelligent lot in the entire US.
Hopefully this clears up a little of your confusion
Listen bud if you can’t figure out that statement you are the problem. I’m neither Republican or Democrat, I know both parties bear the entirety of the responsibility for the condition of our country today.
Democrats are unified in a cohesive manner. The lockstep of that party is incredible. If Leader Pelosi says one thing every single democrat is parroting that party line from AOC in DC to pink pussy hat lady down to the guy who doesn’t know what bathroom to use.
Republicans have no such unity and are disorganized at best and one or a few always sell out to the Democrats’ wants. Also I watch every Republican talk about how they hate government handouts and all the government programs and blah blah blah. Yet every single Republican dutifully pays their taxes and funds all the stuff they hate because it’s the law der hehe.
So democrats have passed a lot of shit laws but in the end it’s the “silent majority,” ya know, the “working class,” the Republicans who have funded every single last bit of it.
Then I listen to the real smart ones talk about civil war. It’s like you idiot! Stop paying your taxes first! Sure talk about civil war and provide your supposed enemy funds until the day you decide to pull the trigger? On a well-funded enemy who bought their weapons with your money?
Stop paying taxes, but but the gubbamint will take my land! Well change is never easy and requires sacrifice. Milk toast wimpy disorganized Republicans who have funded every single social program and government handout they complain about. Yes you are public enemy Number 1!
Seems as though you can’t connect any dots. So you are saying that Republican tax payers haven’t funded every single social program that Democrats have brought into existence? While at the same time bitching about them? And believing that voting will solve things while one of your RINO’s always flips and ensures the democrat agenda gets pushed through Congress?
I’m saying the ones who continually fund the Democrats and bloated government are a much bigger problem than the actual government itself. Are you saying I’m wrong?
Guns and abortion. Guns are made to kill people. The main argument against abortion is that it’s a life, such a precious life. So precious, I will decide for you. So I could understand being against abortion, if you were also anti gun. The argument for gun ownership comes down to making a decision to end a life on your own terms should you see fit.
Tell me what other platform Republicans have now. Let’s see how many Republicans vote to holiday the Federal fuel taxes.
$20? 42 cents per gallon on diesel, or the 18 cents, I can’t remember which one is state or Federal , but if you burn 300 gallons a week driving bullshit around for people, it adds up. $180?
Besides taxation, and highway maintenance is Socialism.
“Besides taxation, and highway maintenance is Socialism.”
No, it’s not socialism. It’s in the Preamble to the US Constitution…promote the general welfare…
General welfare means providing the infrastructure needed for free trade, commerce, and transportation. In later years it led to clean drinking water and sewage treatment. Could have led to free electricity, but by then the politicians were corrupt and getting too many kickbacks from the developing oligarchs.
But I digress. The general welfare in the Preamble had nothing to do with taking from those that do and giving it to the can’t do’s or will not’s. THAT’S Socialism. And it’s high time to end it. Case in point is Kalifornistan. Some of the highest taxes in the nation and the highest homeless rate in the nation. If anyone wants to see that socialism doesn’t work, look at those numbers right there. And idiots keep electing vermin who tell you they need to raise taxes for this n that and nothing gets done, but the abject poor and homeless keep swelling. Idiots even DIRECTLY vote to impose taxes on themselves with bond measures and such.
“There just ain’t no accounting for people so educated, that they ain’t got a lick of common sense…”
Alright, I’m going to one-up all of you. How about this one.
What if we, the mob of fools……make abortions legal, but the only legal means of abortion is to perform it with a standard firearm. You must compromise with your countrymen. If there is no middle ground, we will all fail. Someone ship guns to planned parenthood so this can all settle and be let to pass.
“If raising kids weren’t such a struggle for so many, nobody would even consider an abortion.“
It’s only a struggle when one feels they “have” to have a tv, computer, internet, every damned streaming service and cable channel, two cars on loan in the driveway of a huge house with no savings, credit cards maxed out and no will to work (and work hard). Then votes Democrat so they keep having to pay more of their income in taxes leaving less to pay the bank, the auto loans, the landlord, the cable company and then wonder why they don’t have any money to feed their kids or buy diapers. That’s IF it’s a married couple. Even more desperation ensues when a woman decides to fornicate with a boy man, that still rides a bmx bike around, with no job, no future and can’t find his ass with both hands.
What does the world owe ignorant wretches that make stupid decisions?
“Stupid is, as stupid does…” Forrest Gump
We’re about four generations removed from hard working people raising large families in two or three room houses, no running water and no electricity. Ask yourself how your great or great-great grandparents raised your predecessors.
“Ain’t no accounting for people so educated, they ain’t got a lick of common sense.” Grandpa
That’s funny… I always think that all the Pro-Lifers I see are definitely the people no one would want to procreate with. Maybe they should save their opinions for laws that actually impact them. As a 35 yr old female, why are you all so obsessed with my uterus? It’s because you’ll never get in it.
35 and talking of your ‘future children’. Time to come down to reality or at least admit you can’t have it all in life. Waiting forever to have kids but still planning to have kids past 35 is pretty irresponsible and selfish considering the increased negative effects to the abilities of someone born to somone relatively old in terms of child bearing years versus someone younger.
I meant wanted as if I get pregnant and chose to keep the baby it would be a wanted child. As opposed to the thousands of women who will now have to carry unwanted babies to full term. Personally I don’t really want kids, but if the situation was right I wouldn’t be opposed, but it would have to be a perfect situation. I’m currently sitting in España on an extended 3 month vacation… I’m completely content with my choices thus far and happy with my life ❤️ Cheers 🍹
If 35 is too old for you… you’re definitely an incel. Little advice: it’s amazing what a human being can accomplish if we break the constraints of the ideologies we believe define us (yes, that includes getting yourself a girlfriend)
Meh, I have my kid, and women for the most part have tired me out. Maybe I have bad taste, maybe I’m a bad picker. Maybe I wore them out. Anyway, just not interested. Check back in a few years, you’ll still be too old though.😉
This is one more insult flying above the radar . Kym incel? Basically sexually harassment right there. And making the inference that ” in my 1911…” is single and through fault of his own?! I don’t see how hurtful and unnecessary zingers like this remain. But for an entire year every single post of mine is hand handled. 🤷♀️ Must have done an unforgivable thing.
No worries mate! I eat it up, I just wish Kym would stop censoring my rebutted, but we all know what side she plays for, it’s all good, haven’t you seen? Even with Biden and a full Democrats Congress, we’re winning on the issues that matter. Must really burn them up lol.
Me too. The conversation is putty, and that moderating hammer sculpts it discussion willy-nilly. I guess the bigger the burn the more desperate and chaotic the efforts…lolz for real.
Interesting interpretation. I think by virtue of the fact that they use a direct address of if “you”… and not, if “one” … It is an obvious attack. Didn’t you already have a big explanation how using one makes it more generic but if you say you it is interpreted as a personal attack
That’s what I thought you said….
I read it to say (based on the stated objection to dating older than 35) if 35 is too old, then – in my 1911 -is def an incel. And you don’t even address the unsolicited advice about how if he breaks constraints and “gets a girlfriend ” he’ll accomplish more …what the hell! He never ask anybody for that.
Incel is a derogatory term and allowing trash like that thoroughly muddies your “rules.” It makes the moderation look persona bias l first. And policy second.
Maybe Kym could have a calendar that shows off the bodies of toxically masculine men and compares them to the latter? Let’s have a body contest bud! I’ll be your huckleberry 😉
I love it, thank you for the correction. I’ll have to double check ya, but it’s been pretty embarrassing that I’ve been saying one of my favorite movie quotes wrong.
Yeah I didn’t think I had it wrong, but I am always willing to check someone’s correction and accept it if I turn out to be wrong. Seems like a very rare quality these days.
Yo 911, I’ve read some truly disgusting remarks in this forum, but you just took the prize. If you want to know what’s wrong with our country, just look in the mirror.
See if it cracks.
Thank you, I try. I’m just someone who takes care of myself. I had to listen to some truly repugnantly unhealthy individuals trying to lecture me about health for two years because I refuse to take an experimental crap jab. Sorry bud, gloves are off when it comes to health. Just a word of advice, I’m not PC, I love extreme sports, shooting guns, fighting, beer, and babes, but I will take the shirt off my back for anybody who needs it and I always try to stand up for what is right, as outlined in the 10 Commandments, and I certainly believe in earning my keep.
You make a very good point… For those of us that are knowledgeable, this is much ado about nothing, as abortion laws in California will remain exactly the same.
Yeah gee how could anyone care about people who don’t live in the borders of their states? It’s not an issue of states rights it shouldn’t issue a human rights, which are now in a longer protected.
ya that’s a quandry. Sensetive subject when a woman is feeling threatened about reproductive rights, when the obvious solution is right in front of them.
Ha! Slavery was never made illegal! The plantation just got extended from the east to the west coast and from Canada down to Mexico.
Ever hear of property taxes? If you rent you have to work to pay your rent and you don’t get to stop. If you are fortunate enough to “buy” a house, then you have to pay property taxes on it for the rest of your life, or else the government takes it from you. That’s forced labor under duress. And it s a scam. Work your entire life to be able to pay money to pretty much lease land from the government. You don’t actually own it, and you have to keep working to pay the government to keep it, otherwise your out on the street. You ever watch Animal Farm?
And besides, I’m guessing you typed your comment from an iPhone or computer, each of which has chips with conflict metals in them mined by forced child labor. So don’t go bring up slavery when you fully support it, just like I fully support it and anybody who owns an iPhone or shoes supports it. I’m sure it would be mighty inconvenient if you had to make your own shoes or pay the price that shoes would cost if they were made by non-slave labor, just as it might’ve been mighty inconvenient for them southern plantation owners to start picking their own cotton or having to pay to have it picked. Just mighty inconvenient, but as long as it’s not-in-my-backyard, it’s ok. You can virtue signal against it while supporting it all you like.
There’s a spectrum of behaviors. You had Irish slaves, indentured servitude, cults. We still have young Mormon boys building Amazon terminals without pay. There was also the Barbados plantation style slavery based on kidnapped Africans that was imported to the coastal Deep South. Your little “slave wager” comparison is pretty weak compared to what went on. Order a pizza and play grown up video games.
Bye! Hope the boat isn’t named Titanic! But it won’t be ‘cause I’m sure you’re going to take a clipper ship or other sailing vessel, ‘cause… global warming. AMIRITE???
Slavery? Can’t get people to work for 30 bucks a hour,they want 70. Robots on the way, slavery is too funny. Maybe a slave to the government handout, i can see that it the future.
The unemployment rate is at 3.6% currently for all of US. 4% to 5% is (was? it’s been awhile since I took economics in school) considered “full employment”.
California is at 4.3%. Texas is 4.2% for comparison.
Seems like people are working. Just not at places that have help wanted signs, mostly fast food joints around here.
It’s not the pay that’s the issue. It’s the inability to retire to your own land and work it and provide yourself your own food and resources while being able to tune out of this society, WITHOUT still paying the government, since you paid to supposedly own your property. Property taxes completely destroy that option. I would like to actually own the land I supposedly own, not have to continue to work to pay a tax to a government so I can continue to keep what I supposedly own. That’s a problem man!
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trout fisher
1 year ago
Dead Kennedy’s said it well
Peggy Sue Got pregnant
And was addicted to fifteen drugs
She went down
To the abortion clinic
And was accosted
By right wing thugs
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There’s a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky
Little Mary
Was just eleven
And she was raped
By her own dad
Danny Quayle said
“Have that baby”
But another choice
She said
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There’s a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky
Annie’s pregnancy
Would kill her
Doctor’rs warning
Gave her strife
Fudnamentalists
Said “Jesus take her”
She said, “I want
My right to life”
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There’s a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky
Kathy had two
Kids already
And an abortion
Is what she chose
Christian showed her
A bloody fetus
She said “That’s fine
I’ll have one of those.”
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There’s a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky
Tanya lived for
Revolution
Wanted to overthrow
The state
She had fifteen
Commie babies
Phylis Schlafly
Ain’t that great?
the sex pistols had a damn good take on the issue as well
Bodies
She was a girl from Birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was a case of insanity
Her name was Pauline, she lived in a tree
She was a no-one who killed her baby
She sent her letters from the country
She was an animal
She was a bloody disgrace
Body, I’m not an animal
Body, I’m not an animal
Dragged on a table in a factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby screaming
Body, screaming, fucking, bloody mess
Not an animal, it’s an abortion
Body I’m not an animal
Mummy, mummy, mummy, I’m an abortion
Throbbing squirm, gurgling bloody mess
I’m not a discharge
I’m not a loss in protein
I’m not a throbbing squirm
Ah! Fuck this and fuck that
Fuck it all the fuck out of the fucking brat
She don’t wanna a baby that looks like that
I don’t wanna a baby that looks like that
Body, I’m not an animal
Body, an abortion
Body, I’m not an animal
Body, I’m not an animal
An animal
I’m not an animal
I’m not an animal, an animal, an-an-an animal
I’m not a body
I’m not an animal, an animal, an-an-an animal
I’m not an animal
Mummy! Uh!
Good chart. I’m confident the majority support legal abortions for the 1% in your first six categories but that support diminishes quickly for the 99% of “convenience” abortions your stats show, particularly after 12 weeks when the baby has a heartbeat and feels pain when dismembered in the abortion procedure. Online abortion pills are the most convenient means for women to get rid of their babies, growing in popularity and easy in ALL STATES as buying shoes even after this Roe decision
What are the stats on physical ability to breast feed? Why is there an infant formula “shortage”. Why is it hard to breast feed and maintain a family sustaining job at Waffle House on a minimum wage? Why would a woman work at Waffle House instead of simply choosing to be rich and successful like Amy Barret, or Ginnie Thomas. Maybe we should craft a law that limits a woman’s choice to be unsuccessful.
So we agree abortion kills human life but the question is whether we care considering the stage of brain development. Yeah, that’s the question with differing answers amongst the public
Many women aren’t sure they’re even pregnant at 12 weeks.
Here’s a reality check squirrel bait, if men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament.
This isn’t about babies health or your F@#ked up version of morality. It’s about subjugating over half of the population. It’s about producing sufficient canon fodder to launch against the “evil muslim hoards” in the Middle East in your so called final conflict.
You do realize the men who wrote that poppycock were starving monks stoned on ergot and psilocybin? Then King James took your bible to Parliament for final approval.
That might explain how they found people named Matthew, Mark, Luke and John in the Middle East.🙄
Word of god my ass. More like word of misogynist old men hungry for younger women and control.
Just because no reason was given doesn’t mean there wasn’t one. Including the categories listed above it because many women don’t want to publicly admit any of those reasons because of the trauma.
Jared Huffman is a fraud who has joined the squad. Most other countries have time limits on abortion save for medical exigencies. The Supreme court ruling does not make abortion illegal. It simply says it’s up to the individual states. They went too far with their ruling, though. They should have simply said the Mississippi 15 week law was within that states power to enact, based on scientific evidence of fetal viability. On the other hand, one certainly shouldnt be able to throw a baby in the trash can at birth. That really disturbs me, as does a total ban on abortion by some states. I wonder how the Court would have ruled if Schuler, Pelosi and company hadn’t chastised the new justices. Payback is a bitch, Chuckie. That goes for you too, Jared.
Chastised? I do remember a couple of the recent controversial newbies being asked if they were just there to overturn R vW. So do you think getting “chastised” forced them to reverse their long standing opposition to lying?
Why wouldn’t they be proud of their stance? If it’s so popular? It’s cool for a lifetime appointment to the highest court to lie, or omit the truth under direct questioning? Look up the word “Honor”, and “Conviction” in the dictionary.
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Gavin'sComb
1 year ago
Notice all the photos of the “crowd” are side shots?
Ok you two. This is why nobody takes Republicans seriously anymore. You notice your solo white male counter protest? Help that goofball out by developing an argument in support of your position.
just following part lines as instructed by Grand leader Pelosi.
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Al L Ivesmatr
1 year ago
The usual crew showing up again, constitutional ignoramus’ as there is no right to an abortion or healthcare. Sorry liberals, you are protesting for rights which never existed in the first place. That is what is so beautiful about the Constitution, it is up to every individual to take care of themselves, to acquire their own healthcare, payed for by themselves, not everybody else. If you cannot pay, then through the goodness of the taxpayers, there is free healthcare for those in need as well as gov provided healthcare for seniors over 65. It is really pretty simple. And if you get pregnant, it is nobodies fault but your own. Hence, in California you can still get an abortion. In Oklahoma, you will need to go to a pro abortion state. Another simple concept the usual crew doesn’t understand, states rights as spelled out in the Constitution. As an example, the reason they don’t understand is that they would never allow open carry in California and the dems would wig out if the Republicans followed their path and said every state must be the same. Since Arizona and many other states are open carry, then all states will be open carry. For some reason, hmmm, I don’t think the democrats would like that very much. And for guns, it is a right guaranteed in the Constitution, unlike abortion or healthcare.,So democrats, you lose in your mindless, unwarranted, and constitutionally illegal national takeover attempt.
“The usual crew” being women and the people who think women are people the same as men, right? Cuz when you come down to it, this is really about putting women in their “place”, somewhere under the men.
So, is this what the pro-abortion stance comes down to, meme? Because a couple wants to have sex for more than procreation, they want the option of killing a developing human baby because they’re irresponsible?
If a couple wants to have sex for more than procreation, there are simple and effective ways to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.
And yes, one of them may involve ass-wiping after the act is committed.
Wow. Health care is not a basic human right according to you. You want to force women to have children they cannot afford and then say tough luck. Your lack of compassion is stunning.
Occasionally accidents happen, but the whole point of birth control was to give women a choice, and condoms to give men a choice.
If either of you don’t use it responsibly, where’s your compassion for the baby?
Aborting a human is “ healthcare ?” Agreed, there are some ( very few) instances when an abortion may be warranted. There are SO many easily available contraceptives out there now , but I get that some times really bad situations happen. But …. You should know when you are pregnant well before it actually arrives right ? So at some point this little fetus is a human! Where’s the cutoff ? If you are the parent and you go ahead and give birth , can you still abort he/she ? After all it’s your “ choice “ right ? Maybe up to 18 ? It’s just “ healthcare “ right 🤷♀️
So ya got drunk, made a bad decision, had some unprotected sex, and now regret it. So the correct course of action is to take the easy way out and prevent a viable human from having a chance at life by having an abortion? Seems like the real stand-up way to go about life, parents must be proud.
Were people never taught that sex is an act of reproduction and comes with potential consequences of disease as well? I don’t understand the disconnect where people engage in the reproductive act, for fun, don’t use any contraception, and then are surprised once they are pregnant?
A. That’s not a viable human being, it is part of the woman.
B. Mothers with unwanted babies get shame, not pride.
C. Who says the reproductive act isn’t fun?
A. Please provide evidence as to the contrary that it is not a viable human. Science says it is, as an egg upon fertilization, possesses the 4 metrics that science has determined constitutes life.
B. Most mothers who have their children fall in love with them and want them. There are mothers who don’t want their kids, there is an option for that, it’s called giving them up for adoption. If you are mother and make it known to your child that they are unwanted, then shame is well deserved.
C. Just because something is fun doesn’t mean it’s right. I believe people who smoke meth and engage in criminal behavior think it’s fun, do you support them too?
Yeah it is! Just do it responsibly. Wrap it up and make sure the woman is on the pill. If she isn’t, it’s your choice to take that risk but I wouldn’t advise it.
Your arguments work if you divorce women from emotion. Just give em up for adoption! Abortion! Such an easy decision! Why, she’s probably glad he split, and her job sucks so she can have a fun entertaining termination!
Shooting guns is fun. A gun is designed to terminate life from a distance by pulverizing vitals with lead. If you are pro gun, and anti choice, you lost any appearance of consistency.
Women who don’t want their children should give them up for adoption because it seems they may have already divorced themselves of any emotion. You honestly sound a little unstable, I wouldn’t recommend you go buy a gun anytime soon.
A. Please provide evidence as to the contrary that it is not a viable human. Science says it is, as an egg upon fertilization, possesses the 4 metrics that science has determined constitutes life.
No science doesn’t say that. Religion says that.
Can the fertilized egg (i.e. the zygote) survive apart from the uterus? If not, it isn’t a life but a developmental stage on the path to “life”.
A fertilized egg and developing embryo are incapable of maintaining homeostasis on its own — that’s why it is completely dependent upon the womb to do so. The mother provides homeostatic conditions.
Well, to be fair, contraceptives can fail also (probably a very small amount of cases). But I definitely agree that there could have been many preventative steps that could have been utilized before we get to the abortion step. They didn’t outlaw plan b, did they? That’s still an option for those who were a bit careless with their “night moves.”
This is merely a symptom of the larger problem which you alluded to earlier. People’s lack of (in my opinion) education on the outcomes of sexual intercourse and accountability for their actions.
That’s the thing, nothing was outlawed, abortion was not made illegal, in fact, here in California absolutely nothing will change. The states get to decide what to do with the abortion topic. The majority in California seem to want it, so it will stay. The majority in other states will want it as well, so it will be available in those states, some will place restrictions on it, and others may outlaw it completely, but that is supposed to be based on what the majority of the populations of THOSE states want.
If the majority wants it, it will stay, if it doesn’t, it will go. Seems pretty counterintuitive for Californians to be upset about the minority in other states not getting what they want regarding abortion. If the script were flipped, that means the minority would get what they want in California and abortion would be outlawed, I’m sure Californians would have a fit about that, so maybe mind our own business and other states should mind theirs?
That’s the thing, nothing was outlawed, abortion was not made illegal,
That is demonstrably false. Because of a mix of trigger laws and old laws that were on the books but never enforced, there are now a number of states that have made abortions a criminal act.
You do realize this is the United States of America, right? That means all of us have inherent rights that we all should be fighting to protect. The right to make private medical decisions is one of those, it’s as simple as that.
Abortion pills are available online nationwide and are effective to 10 weeks. This hasn’t changed for anyone with Roe decision, nothing’s changed in California and many other states constituting a majority of the population
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Trying to convince people that want to take us back to horse and buggy days because … climate change… that science has evolved in the 50 years since abortion was erroneously legislated from the bench seems counter productive. Especially since they see it as a right in the Constitution that they can’t cite. But the “woke” ones are convinced that the only way to murder their unwanted child (because they cannot logically think through cause and affect) is by the most violent means possible. In the meantime, they want to screech at those of us that would protect ourselves from violent predators that would harm us post-term, that we should not have the means to protect ourselves from that violence with the tools allowed us in the Constitution that we can show them in writing all day everyday.!
You cannot make up a more illogical script that these “oh so educated” simpletons adhere to.
“…by the most violent means possible.”
So a child of a mother, in but their 240th month of gestation walks up to you and attempts to rob you with force…you don’t agree with using a super mild form of violence like shooting his guts with lead? I mean, Second Amendment bro!
But remember, our system of checks and balances gives proportional representation to land, and not population in the Senate. The Senate is the gatekeeper for the more popularly represented House. Let’s say everyone is equally mobile in Alabucky. Unpopular laws lead people to just move to another state. Easy right? Florxas would still get two senators despite now having only twelve residents. Like Wyoming now.
Are you joking or just ignorant? You do realize the Missouri law stops women from getting abortions that are products of incest and rape. Incest to you is considered “getting drunk and making bad decisions” ??????? May god help any woman in your family tree….
Except Missouri has been trying to enact a travel ban for abortion (multiple attempts already) and Texas is trying to do the same thing. It’s clearly unconstitutional but they are trying nonetheless.
State’s rights should protect incest? Are you serious right now? Dude I’m all for states rights, I’m originally from Michigan, but PROTECTING INCEST?? “If you get raped and impregnated by your dad, you have to have to baby or go to Kansas!” How on earth can you actually make that argument. Are you a product of incest yourself? Cause that’s the only explanation for a utterly moronic and deeply disturbing opinion like that.
You’re defending Missouri’s “state rights” to make it illegal for women who get impregnated by rape or incest from obtaining an abortion, saying they can simply go to Kansas. Essentially Missouri is protecting incest and rape pregnancies by forcing women who are impregnated by incest and rape to go full term, and by you defending Missouri’s states rights to do just that, you are in fact defending incest and rape pregnancies. So you’re cool with incest, rape and inbred children? That’s messed up, dude….
No I tkink emotinally over stepped your boundries. You made a statment of fact and I made a statement of fact. In fact I proposed an option. I’m still searching for information on Missouri’s abortion bill banning abortion in the case of incest or rape.
[edit] you didn’t emotionally overstep anything with me. You just overstepped because you’re pro states rights to defend incest and rape, which is totally twisted, dude. Also, a simple google search will suffice for your research[edit]
Takes two to tango. Then: “…once they are pregnant?”
“Sorry babe, I’m not ready to be tied down yet, besides what would happen if my girl found out? See ya, I’m going back to my important jerb”
Or ” “it was her irresponsible CHOICE to be so drunk at the party that I had to fornicate her! My dad gave the school a million bucks, I can’t take time off to change diapers!”
She couldn’t take a birth control pill before she got drunk at the party or slept with the sorry babe dude?
Couldn’t keep a morning after pill or two at home?
There are women who are victims, and many that just play victim but actually actively instigated their own situation.
Be truthful.
I’m a woman and I know a few women who thought if they got pregnant they could capture or have the means to control “their” man.
You should meet my most fundamentalist Christian friend’s kids. Hate to say it, but they never learned about that stuff. Wishfully thinking by adults who should know better left them ignorant. They end up doing weirder riskier stuff. No details out of respect. It’s sad.
Oh, quit yer bitchin’ “ladies”. You can still kill your babies, just not up until the moment of birth…hopefully. At least if you have abortions you won’t be raising more pro-abortionists. Maybe you will abort yourselves out of existence.
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Not Blind
1 year ago
Who is forcing you to have sex (not including rapes)? No one. Who is responsible for utilizing contraceptives? BOTH parties. How does this effect you or any other Californian? It doesn’t.
If you want to direct your indignation appropriately, offer to shuttle people from anti-abortion states to here to get their medical procedure performed. But that would actually take effort and not just lip service… Were you even at this protest?
Hmm… This reply was to “Sarah” who has mysteriously disappeared…
Texas. So pro life. So pro life, that even 100:1 in force, with all the weapons and armor available, the Law sat around while 19 (post conception) kids were killed. A mom ran in and rescued her kids, and now faces prosecution for her act. It’s almost like this is more about a bunch of men posturing, but not taking any responsibility for consequences.
That has nothing to do with what I stated. Please stay on topic if you want to discuss abortion. Gun violence in schools is another matter entirely. The posturing is entirely on you at this point.
Well, the same day, the court also took on, and struck down a hundred year old gun law in NY. So it points to the obvious dissonance with this whole Reverence for Life bullshit.
Yew haw cause we cain’t trust the gubbament to protect us citizens from the swarm of illegal invaders coming across our southern border. We gots ta do it ourselves now ya know? Yee haw bang bang!
Those are two non related cases with two different rulings. I can conflagrate two unrelated events as tied together as well; but you’d probably call me a conspiracy theorist, right? I didn’t mention anything on congruity of ethics in these proceedings; you did. Maybe that’s your prejudice showing?
Perhaps a DNA test should be preformed in pro abortion states and the man should have to attend the procedure and watch his child be dismembered.
Then men might take sex more seriously.
Two people do it. One of them gets stuck with the baby. Let that one make the law. If you are a woman and don’t want an abortion, don’t do it. What if we just let woman lawmakers, and justices vote on this? What do you think the outcome would be?
The man doesn’t get a say or a choice if the woman has the baby.
She has all the rights and that’s why she gets “stuck” with the baby, the baby is sometimes used as a pawn to control the man.
These are typical situations.
I think many men would take the baby if given a choice,
she gets 9 months and the wear on her body, he gets 18 yrs or more and the wear on his body.
He might even have another woman who wants to help raise the baby.and that might really piss her off.
There are many scenarios, but as it stood and still stands, the woman is the only one with rights, none for the father or the baby.
She doesn’t even have to tell the father she’s pregnant, she can even take the morning after pill before she knows if she’s pregnant,
How much power called choice does she need?
I think we need more solutions than kill the innocent baby.
One would be a birth control pill for men.
Pills for feral cats would be useful to.
That’s why We the People need our guns! Them law enforcement can’t be trusted to do the dern job right!
I mean look at all these damn pot grows around the country. They have an entire sheriff’s department and a satellite, millions of dollars, and state of the art weapons and ammo and what? Gimme a group of 20 men and half the budget of the sheriff’s department and we’d have every pot grow in the county eradicated in 24 months.
Yee Haw! Bang! Bang!🔫🔫🔫
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Your privacy rights are next
1 year ago
I dont think folks get that this is really about privacy laws. scotus will now go after all privacy rights, make gay marriage illegal, and other christian nationalist agenda items. Along with big biz agenda.
Time to be done with scotus. 6 people placed by presidents who get to make all the decisions is bullshit.
I guess babies being born into situations like being traded for sex, sodomized,beaten, starved, tortured etc is better than death.
Christians are sick fucks, damn.
They only care about the fetus not the child once its born. Theyre the first ones to then complain about welfare moms, poor parenting and unwanted kids who usually end up in jail.
I soooo wish CA, OR &WA could join as one and secede from this country, we would have such a productive country!!!
I guess babies being born into situations like being traded for sex, sodomized, beaten, starved, tortured etc is better than death.
Logic says that those babies aren’t coming from the women having abortions.
Those people when found should be sterilized and doing long terms in prison.
The supreme court left it up to individual states to decide and we all know how California thinks of abortions. These protesters look like a bunch of morons!
So the Court just opened a can of worms. What if CA outlawed any gun. Got your States Rights, and satisfies the “every life is precious” crowd.
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Pazuzu
1 year ago
No one wants to impregnate these losers anyways thats why they have the time to hold there cardboard babies
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KelKay
1 year ago
Can someone please explain how taking rights away from American citizens is in any way a good thing? I do not consider myself a “liberal”… I have continuously voted for members of both major parties. I truly believe in the old Land of the Free & Home of the Brave. Get vaccinated or don’t, I don’t care, it’s your body. Buy a gun if you want, smoke some green and marry whatever sexual orientation you wish (as long as they’re consenting). Like I said…. Land of the FREE. Why is the same consideration not applicable for child bearing aged women? In all honesty, why do you all care so much about what other people do?
It stinks of incels in this comment section. Sorry y’all can’t get laid but get a life, no one cares about your opinions on laws that do not effect your body at all.
The reason I’m commenting is my initial question. Please answer it instead of throwing illogical and irrelevant comments back at me. Why is it ok to take away any freedoms previously granted to American citizens?
Because it was unconstitutional legislation from the bench in 1973 and it’s not a right or freedom guaranteed in the Constitution to murder our unborn future citizens.
I, and several others have pointed out these facts elsewhere in the comment section.
However, should you reside in the United Socialist Counties of Kalifornistan, you’re still going to enjoy the pleasure of state sanctioned murder, should you so choose. The vermin running this state will find ways to funnel its indentured servants earnings to the abortion clinics that launder that money back to their wallets or purses while throwing a few crumbs to those that will not so they can continue garnering votes from the parasitic class under the guise of “helping the less fortunate” as the numbers of lower middle class continue to decrease while the abject poor and homeless increase.
In the meantime, those that do will continue having their earnings stripped to continue the flow of money up to the oligarchs who pull the strings of the vermin (politicians).
When life actually begins is a dispute as old as time. As a woman it’s still my body and I should have the FREEDOM to choose what I want to do. Once again, please answer my question: why is it ok to take away freedoms previously granted to American citizens? It’s remarkable to me how these stark republicans preach FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM but dance around my question regarding abortion rights when I ask it.
If a man’s penis is in your body, does that mean you then have the right to do anything with it, including things that are destructive biologically to it even though it was invited in?
If you’ve read any of my comments you would know I’m clearly defending products of rape and incest. And in that regard, if a man’s penis is in my body as a product of rape or incest, then yes, I would like to do anything “biologically destructive” to it that can be done (which I’m not sure what that means, and I’m genuinely intrigued. Please provide examples, not being sarcastic at all… Genuinely want to know.)
an example of ‘biologically destructive’ would be engaging in oral sex and then biting off a man’s dick because it was technically inside your body. The point i’m making is that just because something is in your body, does not necessarily imply there is logic to support doing whatever you want to it much more than to things that aren’t in your body. Rape and incest are not ‘invited’. Few abortions are the result of rape. How many drunk drivers are just surprised soon-to-be-fathers who’s wives waters suddenly and unexpectedly broke, because if it has ever happened that a father has driven drunk with his wife to deliver to the hospital, that people should support drunk driving.
You have the freedom to exist….let’s say in a few year’s society decides you’re not a benefit to climate change, so we can just exterminate you, to make our lives better. After all you’re a burden, as are the mentally ill, the physically handicapped, autistic…hmm, where does it end?
You’d be fine with that, right? After all, it’s our world, our choice.
I am a college educated 35 year old healthy woman. I primarily work as an accountant and have always contributed my fair share of taxes to the good ole USA. You’re honestly comparing me to an unborn fetus? I’m not condoning abortions in the 3rd or even 2nd trimester… I’m talking about literal sacks of cells. How do you truly not see the difference?
I’ll say the same this to you as to the others then, if you’re so morally above me and pro-life, then can I have your address? I’ll give it to the women who are forced to give birth to their rape and incest babies. They can drop the unwanted children off at your door, which will unquestionably have mental and psychological issues, and you can spend your life and your money taking care of those children. But it’s all good, Since you’re sooooooo pro-life right?
When will you people learn this will one day affect you, too. Nothing breeds criminality more than an unwanted child in an unnurtured environment.
As a 71-year-old woman who’s raised 2 kids, and many of their friends, I would think a college educated 35-year-old healthy woman might better spend her energy
creating a nurturing environment for all people not only babies to live in, instead of supporting killing them, but it might cost some of your precious money and time out of your life…. I’ve heard people that do that are called heroes and much loved in their communities.
Look around, some amazing people were raised in an un-nurtured environment, and they usually had a mentor.
I’ve had kids of wealthy parents come over that would rather have a plate of rice and beans at my house than eat steak at their own, especially if they got to help make it, money isn’t everything.
Also, since you care about human life so much, can I have your address? I’ll give it to the women who get impregnated by rape and incest and can’t obtain abortions. They’ll drop their unwanted inbred and rape babies off at your door for you… and you can spend your life (and money) taking care of those children who will undoubtably have medical and psychological issues. But you welcome them, right? You know… since you care so much about human life.
And how many abortions do you really believe that situation accounts for out of the multi-millions of abortions?
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steve
1 year ago
When I was a kid, there were women dying from ” back-room abortions “, and I fear that will be so again. Also, orphanages of unwanted kids, many with special needs.
The stupid, ignorant comments here do nothing to make me less happy to live in California where we will continue to be a state that supports women, and their constitutional right to privacy. Shame on your comments. This comment section has become a room of bigots, wing nuts and the bottom of the barrel of humboldt culture.
Uh, sorry to burst your bubble, but these viewpoints are exactly representative of your friends and neighbors. Remember; you get to comment too. Does that mean that YOU’RE a bigot, wing nut, or other “deplorable?” Not everyone shares your opinion. Figure it out.
“The University of Pennsylvania is being paid by Bavarian Nordic,” the 2014 document states. Biden joined UPenn after leaving the vice presidency in 2017. Anthony Fauci used approximately $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to pay Bavarian Nordic for the vaccine and the Biden administration has used over $100 million in taxpayer funds to buy the monkeypox vaccines.
As I also reported, the University of Pennsylvania makes massive money off Coronavirus vaccines. UPenn gets paid by Pfizer’s vaccine partner BioNtech in licensing payments for mRNA technology and UPenn even makes more money if Pfizer-BioNTech sells more vaccines and gets more FDA approvals from the Biden administration, thanks to a deal UPenn made in 2018 when Biden worked for the university.”
Euthanasia might be better healthcare than we get. My Dad’s MIA in Kaiser, supposed to go to a care facility, they didn’t know he was coming, nobody tells my Mom nothin. We don’t know where he’s at. Time to file a writ of habeas corpus! Before the Supremes get rid of that. My Grandma in law (90) had back pain, took what they gave her, her neighbor’s a doctor, pointed out they prescribed her anti depressants!? Never explained what they gave her. Now they’re telling her, “oh you better wean yourself off that slowly!” Shes uptight, but definitely not depressed.
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Paul Revere
1 year ago
I don’t understand the point, California it’s legal so no issue here to kill your babies. The constitution never eunumerated any right to abortion, Meaning the federal government never had a right to force States to allow it, only the states have the right to decide as per the constitution. If you want federally protected right to kill babies there is a process called constitutional amendment, there are 2 ways to do it, state convention or Congress.
I sincerely doubt a constitutional Congress will ever be called, as any amendment to the constitution could be challenged or changed. I think that’s a big roadblock for the state of Jefferson as well.
You know, you could state a point and back it up instead of just insulting others. Maybe try that? Why are they creeps? What don’t you agree with? That’s how adults discuss things.
The constitution never enumerated precisely which day of the week you have a right to a fair trial. Go ahead and complain all you want to the wall about your secret indefinite detention.
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Rimme
1 year ago
All this not-in-the-constitution talk by the “pro-life” crowd. It’s cover. Go read the actual history of abortion in the USA (not Christian-machine backed sources … who like to conveniently edit Hx).
18th through 20th Century Hx, in particular, is men (led mostly by society-leading all-male doctors, politicians, businessmen) behind closed doors sticking their dicks in women most any time they wanted to. Whether women wanted IT or not. Then women being left with the resulting decision, OR, the man swinging his other dick (the fist, and/or financial power) decreeing “get rid of it”.
It’s best not to try and be too sophisticated, lawyerly, high-minded, over what’s really always been an issue of swole: men, swinging dicks of all kinds, ejaculating everywhere, then either walking away or decreeing what happens next. Today, cuz they can’t ejaculate at will nor slap women around so easily anymore, the old male-mindset still has dick pushing into women’s minds. Eject!
Fun Fact: MoveOn.org was created specifically with the intent to shift attention away from Bill’s lascivious proclivities. Obviously their job isn’t done (although that propaganda campaign has itself moved-on to pursue other objectives.)
Ah, but then all the involvement with Harvey Weinstein, Epstein, Podesta’s etc. kinda outed them.
They all Dems and Repubs still want Julian Assage dead.
This is the 21st century when women buy medical booty pops, breast implants, Botox, all just to keep unwanted men away, right….
Buy another Stacy Abrams novel. LOL
There’s plenty of participation by both sides.
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ULTRAMAGAMAN
1 year ago
Woman holding the kid with the sign that says, “I deserve better than this shit” is really going to have some explaining to do to that kid in 20 years.
Me devoted Catholic mum had me and several siblings before Roe. She wanted abortions but they were illegal and her church demanded she have children she didn’t want. She was a complete unfit mother who’d go to prison for abuse by today’s criteria. She wrote letters to celebrities trying to sell us off. Finally her church gave us away. Me brother Anthony went to the Catholic Nebraska Boys Farm where he was sexualy, physically abused for a decade before turning 18 and let go. I had a similar fate. It would really had been better not to have been born. To start out in life with such heavy burdens is the true crime here. Not all women are fit to be mothers as not all men are fit to be fathers. Adoption is not the answer.
66 years old, Atheist, Queer and Proabortion.
The solution would be killing the people running the Nebraska Child Prostitution ring that was ran by Larry King. If you kill those adults instead of the conceived, you wouldn’t have that going on. Instead, this country is so corrupt, it lets publicly disclosed child sex traffickers working to blackmail the government go free while we debate the merits of the value of snuff out the growth of life.
Are you saying the case of Larry King of the Nebraska republican GOP in the 80’s I think is a completely made up story. I don’t know what pizzagate is but I doubt the story of the Israeli spy called Jeffrey Epstein doing the same on a more elaborate scale is not something to scoff at as non-sense conspiracy ‘theory’. Do you think that Epstein & Maxwell are not real people?
The Franklin child prostitution ring is, and was determined to be a hoax. King and others in the credit union were busted for embezzlement. As i said, state AND federal grand juries found it to be so. In fact one of the false accusers went to prison for 4 1/2 years for it.
I’m just interested why you went back over 30 years to a discredited case instead of correctly pointing out Epstein.
Oh, Pizzagate? You know, the one where Hillary and other Democrats were running a child abuse ring out of the basement of a specific pizza joint?
One that didn’t have a basement, btw. But that didn’t stop some idiot from bringing a gun to said pizza place to “save the children”. Thankfully he didn’t hurt anyone, but he did fire off some shots from his tacticool rifle. He was sentenced to 4 years.
Why are you posting a link to pizzagate and not to information about Boys Town in Lincoln Nebraska that Larry King was using as a source for underage kids to traffic parties targetting US politicians for blackmail. I smell an Israel supporter who thinks Jeffery Epstein didn’t do any wrong.
Uhm, what? Care to expand on that rather slanderous comment?
You brought up the King “scandal”, I pointed out that it was found to be absolute bullshit.
Crap like that and Pizzagate do more harm to actual victims of pedophiles, because false accusations make people more skeptical of actual reported abuse. And like I said, why did you bring up an old discredited thing instead of leading with an actual case of abuse (Epstein).
Qanon and Pizzagate are fake conspiracy theories to discredit and distract people from the real stories of child sex trafficking targeting the government. Democrats and Republicans have been targeted. This is not a Trump / Clinton moron analysis that you probably want.
The original comment was about Boys Town in Nebraska. You brought up Jerry Springer level of sophistaction with Pizzagate and Qanon. You obviously think the kids used from Nebraska were lying. I won’t try to convince you of anything you are clearly opposed of analyzing or have made a complete determination on already. I will share information with people who do want to know more though, and people like you will be exposed. Do you think the government is honest?
Why do you clearly avoid the subject of what Jeffrey Epstein was doing. He was working for Mossad and running child sex trafficking rings targeting the US government for blackmail of influential individuals. Do you think that is not true? If you ignore Nebraska as well as your favored subjects of Qanon, isn’t it enough to know about Jeffrey Epstein to think that ignoring what he was doing while putting effort to talk about other issues seems to support them and their activities by saying it was not real.
I’m not “avoiding” Epstein. He’s dead, Maxwell is prison. As it should be. If any of his pals, including Bill Clinton or Donald Trump were involved, put them in prison as well.
I don’t know how to make it any clearer to you.
Because you may not think you are a QAnon type, but….
Qanon is bullshit. The gulf of Tonkin and the US lying about Vietnam was real. The goverment does lie. The CIA sold drugs to domestic drug dealers inside the continental united states. You seem to have some Brady Bunch version of government conduct and history.
How does a jury lie. You may know but I can’t think of a way a jury lies. I thought a jury just makes a decision of guilty or not guilty, on a spectrum of potential charges. Do juries get up and talk and argue issues? I can expose the information than a smart reader could then conclude from reading that you are likely interested in putting effort to discredit something that should not be worth your effort unless you are into some weird things.
The documentary that was produced by The Discovery Channel (in the 90’s I think) was removed because all the claims the kids made it it were lies right. All the articles about Larry King were lies right. You have even concluded that other related claims to animal and child sacrifices were also far out BS claims and not based on anything of substance, just imagination and desire to destroy the credibility of people targeted by the accusations is sounds like.
Paul Bonacci, one of the kids to tells his story was full of it and making false claims it sounds like you think.
And why post a wikipedia link to the pizzagate distraction and not to the government version of the the actual boys town prostituion ring wikipedia article. The article gives the coverup version of the story, but at least keep it relevant if you are trying to present the cleansed version of the story, wikipedia made it easy for you but you prefer to do straw man arguments by bringing up some moron targeting moving like Qanon and the associated Pizzagate dumbed down stories of no substance or information.
William Barr has been around to cover up child sex trafficking planned by his father since at least back to the time of Larry King in Nebraska. Letters were sent to him notifying him of what was going on but he instead helped to cover it up. The same thing is happening with another ‘Jeffrey Esptein type of Character’ in the form of Michael Goguen, who also working on behalf of an intelligence agency. He currently lives in Whitefish, Montana and has similar connections that Jeffrey Epstein also had. He is involved in sex trafficking and is backed by intellginece agency funding by hiding the money in the cover of his ‘venture capital’ career. He is no different. There are multiple Jeffrey Epstein’s out there and they are doing a job planned by people above them. Jeffrey Epstein was just one of many agents targeting the US government. If you think I’m full of it, maybe look up ‘Operation Snow White’ and see what even the Church of Scientology was capable of doing to the US government if you think decades and decades of ongoing blackmail operations are something to try to downplay and act as if they are not realistic threats.
Very relevant story. Thank you for that perspective.
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geoff cooper
1 year ago
It’s official now–America will be dictated to by the Pope of the Roman Groomer Church, a man who wears a dress and has never had sex (with an adult woman).
It’s not Catholics, it’s the “Evangelicals”. As Barry Goldwater (no libby there) said:
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
It’s both — 5 of the 6 justices who voted to overturn Roe are Catholics. Barrett was a member of an ultra-conservative Catholic cult. Gorsuch was the only justice voting to overturn who isn’t Catholic and he was raised Catholic but now apparently attends an Episcopal church.
That’s true. And a good point. However, the “Moral Majority” crap that started gaining political power in the 80s was led by Protestants.
I do get finally get to chuckle, though, now that the Southern Baptists are finally having to confront their own abuse by church elders, pastors, etc. Finally.
big fingers, small screen, ya got what I meant, right?
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Kurt Russel
1 year ago
The Democrats are going to try to use this ruling as a way to energize people to support them in the midterms. They’re going to promise to pass legislation to legalize abortion etc.. but that’s not going to be politically viable. If it was, they would have done this a long time ago.
Definitely works for me. I have my issues with the democrats; the homelessness issue which they have a blind spot about, the permissiveness on drug culture etc but an issue like this trumps others. Womens freedom is very important to me and taking freeedom of privacy away is not what the court should be doing in this time. Also, most of the country agrees with me so, I guess this will be a losing issue politically with the backward thinking republicans.
The Democrats move forward, maybe sideways but trying to go forward. Republicans are clearly the party of backwards.
That, or…
The Republicans are going to try to use this ruling as a way to energize people to support them in the midterms. They’re going to promise to pass legislation to outlaw abortion etc.. but that’s not going to be politically viable. If it was, they would have done this a long time ago
The Republicans have an energized base already for the midterms if you believe your own polls. Banning abortion outright is much less of an issue for working class republicans than gas prices, inflation, foreign aid and entanglements.
The naive fantasy that liberals and democrats will become “the party of peace” again is ridiculous. The diehards are more numerous and bloodthirsty than any of the Supposed white supremacy nazis that the left continually cries wolf about. I don’t think we’ll get too much rioting over this, but we’ll see.
It’s their game plan to make it seem like they care more than the REPs and that there is a big difference between the parties. But both parties are run by the mega-wealthy for the mega-wealthy and both are militaristic and corporate- owned. Neither party cares about you or me or any of my neighbors. The DEMs under Clinton and Obama had the presidency AND both houses but never passed legislation assuring abortion rights, just like they have not under Biden. It’s a smokescreen and you are all being played…They have $$$$ and if one of their family needs an abortion they will just fly to a state like CA and get it done in a nice care facility with Netflix and excellent food. They do not care about us. Get it through your head. It’s just a game to them…working the masses into frenzy and laughing, laughing at their country clubs
And that is exactly why the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs Wade. The Supreme Court attempted legislation from the bench in 1973. That’s unconstitutional and abortion is not a right enumerated in the Constitution. Therefore, it is only Congress that can pass a bill that needs to be signed by the president to become a law. If Congress is split on the issue, it will remain up to the states to legislate based on their constituents wishes.
But demanding it NOW like the child told no in the candy aisle is just going to garner pro-choice people a lot of resentment and bitterness. Chances are no one is going to listen to, act on, or give into your demands.
It’s weird because at 2 different recent points the DEMs have controlled the House, Senate and Presidency. Why didn’t they pass that legislation? They didn’t even introduce it! So…what’s up with the DEMs?? Why do they take such a big stand yet do nothing?
no, just as much as they don’t want SCOTUS telling them what thet can do with their bodies, the don’t want the federal government telling them what they can do with theit bodies.
Having the freedom to choose is far, far different than telling anyone what to do with their bodies. If it’s about freedom, then why haven’t answered my question: why is it ok to take away rights previously granted to American citizens?
Hi Lemmings. I hope this abortion sideshow distraction is sufficient to keep you idiot human monocrop busy in your empty echo chamber skulls while we devalue the currency your lives are completely intertwind with and dominated by and you keep bickering about non-issues. People who feel the need to ask the government for what they are allowed to do are the problem. Do what you are going to do. You want to end the growth of your conceived (egg fertilized by sperm that is rapidly proliferating cells and developing as a unitized biological entity of organized cells) isn’t that on you as much as anything else. Heroin and meth are illegal and that stuff is available. You really think the police are going to come get you for snuff out the growth in your belly. Your bigger problem is asking the government for permissions. By asking for permission and being dissappointed by their answer, you lost your own rights and power and authority. If you need the government to help you, and that’s why you ask of their approval and stance, then it makes sense to be concerned about their determinations.
Why not decriminalize abortion instead of making it legal or illegal. Every time you idiots go looking to the government to tell you what’s right or wrong you lose no matter what the answer is.
I will also now be a prick and point out the obvious. Judging by protest pictures, half the women at the protests supporting abortion would be lucky to have sex with someone who would stick around, and many look very far from being physically healthy for the good of carrying a child through a full term pregnancy.
Abortion is not something to be proud of or fight for any more than deforestation.
Ummmmmm back alley abortions are drastically different than legally obtained medically provided abortions by doctors. Are you not familiar with basic OBGYN practices??? I’m confused by your comment, are you condoning the use of coat hangers by saying they’re the same as a doctor administered abortion, or condoning doctors risking their licenses and freedoms to perform illegal yet medically sound abortions?
If a coat hanger is the best a person can figure out then maybe that is what they should use. Without being versed in abortion practices, I’m willing to talk out my ass by stating that there has to be at least a few other realistic alternatives than using a coat hanger. That’s like saying if the government banned masturbation, it would mean you are now technically forced to masturbate with pineapples. Of course when you are going to shove a coat hanger in one of your orifices, you have to be sure to first travel to a back alley also, it’s not effective at home in your bathroom with the heater on.
That’s awesome, no one wants to be told what to do, that makes sense then. This probably means these people are largely bound to become or at least try to become small business owners and self employed. That gives me hope for this country, reversing the trends.
When you can’t handle anyone else telling you what to do, that’s when you know you can only work for yourself. I’ve been there too and I know the sentiment. I’m so glad these people want to take the reigns of responsibility and risk into their own hands.
Those states banning abortion already have the highest childhood poverty rates, the highest teenage abortion rates, and most meth addicts. The problem just got a whole lot worse
Yeah, the “pro-life” crowd is seriously mis-named. They are simply the pro-fetus crowd — once born they don’t give a flying fuck about what happens to the baby or the mother.
The point continually ignored by anti abortionists is that making an abortion illegal doesn’t stop them. Never has in all of history and never will. It just means safe abortions disappears. The old ways of toxic substances, poisonous herbs herbs and unsanitary coat hangers become what’s left. Along with misusing over the counter or internet feticides with news worthy results of damaged babies and dead mothers.
Anti abortionists have now surrendered any control over abortions.
Ha you went from anti vaxxer to anti abortionist. Very general term. I am pro choice with limits. Many people think like me. Also, the scotus did NOT ban abortions, keep that in mind.
It’s not all about you and what you think. For some, removing that Federal right is exactly that- an outright, full spectrum government ban. The Supreme Court did not say some abortions or under certain circumstances. They said there is no right, no level of Federal protection to stop extremist views. Women are going to die from this. Women who didn’t want an abortion but needed it as a medical necessity. They are going to be refused medical care in the name of abortion bans.
“But disaster struck soon after the couple from Washington arrived on the Mediterranean island, they told Insider. Andrea’s water broke, and her placenta started detaching at just 16 weeks. Her pregnancy was no longer viable.
But the traumatic experience became life-threatening due to Malta’s ban on abortion. ”
In places where there is no protection from anti abortion fanatics, someone’s opinion about anything that could possibly damage a foetus is enough.
” One such case, in El Salvador, which has one of the strictest abortion bans in the world, has gone all the way to the Inter-American Court of Human Rights, where a ruling is expected by the end of this year. Manuela, a 33-year-old woman who went to hospital to seek treatment after a miscarriage, was sentenced to 30 years in prison for homicide. She died in jail in 2010.”
“According to a 2012 survey, about 6% of American pregnant women admit to using illicit drugs, while 8.5% drink alcohol and 16% smoke cigarettes.” If she does any of these things, someone somewhere will consider that to be a chargable abortion. “At the root of these cases is the idea that women, once they become a mother, should put their foetus first no matter what, said Emma Milne, a legal scholar of gender and crime who teaches at Durham University in the UK.”
Holding up home made, and PP produced signs at a county courthouse has no effect other than to make the participants feel good about themselves. BTW, abortion is still legal in California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, the hysteria skips over the legalities in favor of mass emotion.
How dare they care about women not living in California. Strange that anti abortionist protest away at planned parenhood offices throughout California where abortion is legal. Do you trivialize them too?
I’d say our democracy died yesterday, but the DNC did that back in 2016. What we’re seeing here is the result of forty years of concentrated corruption on both sides of the aisle with Republicans leading the charge against human rights and the Democrats wringing their hands as they seek a compromise.
Compromise never works when dealing with fanatics of any stripe and in spite of Democrats lifting the glass ceiling for a select few, they’ve always been happy to throw anyone without a seven digit+ annual income under the bus.
I read a headline today calling the GOP “The dog who caught the car”. I assure you this is just the first wave of attacks on human rights and dignity by those who’ve been working diligently to reduce the US to what Germany was in 1936.
Sadly, they’re winning.
I’m just glad my Pop’s not here to see the country he fought fascism for becoming everything he put his life on the line to fight against.
I trust neither party any more.Tthey are liars and manipulators serving their mega-wealthy backers. But I hold out hope that there may be people of good quality from either side of the aisle who might step up. Never expected Liz Cheney to step up and embrace truth and transparency for instance. But yeah- good on her. I have friends from all sides of the political spectrum who hold good morals and values. We can debate and argue but we are stuck together in these uncertain times. I’d rather talk about chainsaws or solving problems than political posturing any day. I won’t play into their bullshit or let it make me dislike my neighbor…I was taught that this is what it means to be American from the WWII vets- all races, all viewpoints at the table makes us stronger and makes us free. And I will not vote on party lines or gender lines or color lines…I want the best person for each job!
The “authoritarian leftists” never once sought to force anyone to have an abortion nor to keep a pregnancy against someone’s will. That is not authoritarian anything. That designation applies to those who use government to do that- i.e. The Authoritarn Eighties.
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burning bush
1 year ago
I think the arguments a lot of abortion supporters try to make would make a lot more sense if they were about the right to sterilize your self by your own choosing. If you are so against a cause and effect reaction, a known chain reaction, or an if this then that scenario, maybe those people should really consider sterilizing themselves. Otherwise they just seem selfish and irresponsible and spiteful of their own biology and natural functions. If you sterilize yourself there is no debate and killing, there is no conception to kill off. Many problems arise in life and get worse when people are set on unrealistic expectations and results. One unrealistic expectation is that you can reap the pleasures of life without the tertiary work and associated effects and functions.
Birth control pills mess with a woman’s hormones, because they are high levels of hormones in a pill form. If you want things that go against logic, you will bring about other problems. The cycle gets worse as each step tries to be compensated for by coming up with another ‘fix’ instead of going back to the source and cause for what is not healthy.
It’s not just young women, locally you can’t get a vasectomy very easily because St. Joe’s prohibits it and they control the vast majority of local health care providers.
Even in places where you can, it’s frequently rejected for young males without kids because “you might want kids in the future“.
The opposite of not protecting abortion/ making abortion illegal is NOT Roe v Wade.
RvW was the MIDDLE GROUND.
Allowing choice.
The opposite of not protecting abortion/making it illegal is TERMINATING ALL PREGNANCIES.
That is extremism. And no pro choicer is making that arguement.
The opposite ends of the middle ground.
RvW/ choice IS THE MIDDLE GROUND.
Anyone here arguing for the dismantling of RvW IS AN EXTREMIST.
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jack bourne
1 year ago
All I see is a bunch of angry confused women, who did not realize what sex is really about. They probably got pregnant when they were young, killed there unborn babies, now don’t know how to deal with the grief of what they have done, so they have to tell themselves a bunch of lies about how it wasn’t a child or make up excuses in their minds for why what they did was acceptable. Its very sad. I also see alot of women who are immature, do not make good mothers, are not responsible people and are unfit for being mothers. As for the men, i see alot of looser guys who would not make good fathers and are too immature to support a women much less any children.
First of all, f*ck off with your assumptions. I am not confused nor have I ever had an abortion, and I feel I can speak for a lot of women in that regard. All we want is our previously granted right as an American citizen to safe medical procedures, if we so choose.
Second, please tell me more about what YOU think women should think sex is really about, “Jack” ………….
I know what you wrote is no joke. These women actually go on to hurt people and are spreading the ideology that a person is not responsible for the results of their actions and there is always an easy way out. Some of them do go on to eventually have kids. Don’t have kids with a women who thinks like them, I’m sorry to say. They hurt the fathers later and only see their own life as worthy of making considerations. All I wanted was to raise my kids right but women like these act without logic and cause problems, maybe, from my limited experience. People like these are also susceptible to wanting to indoctrinate their own kids with un-examined ideologies that are about group think and loss of family strength and autonomy and unity. These kinds of women can become a physical trap where you a trapped between doing what is best for your child and what you are allowed to do based on what the government is telling them is the latest thing to think.
Okay none of that stuff would have happened to me if my dick wasn’t so small. There I said it god damn it. Are you happy. I’m beyond moses you shithead.
The Democrats must be thrilled at the Supreme Court at the moment. They were set to lose much at the next election due to inflation, gas prices, city crime, etc. Then along comes the Supreme Court to eliminate a legal right and Trump crows about successfully fulfilling his campaign promises and many States legislaters get caught being responsible for abortion laws they passed to restrict abortion only with the expectation it would never happen. Talk about changing the odds in one fell swoop. Suddenly from whiny sure losers,the Democrats get on the right of a popular issue. Way to go, Supreme Court.
Don’t be silly. That misses the point that it is not personal. Most who has a differing opinion with the current direction of Democrat politics must be appalled. The Supreme Court has just changed the team members. Now people who might have found some common ground with conservatives have to decide how important all those other issues are in the face of finding themselves aligned with anti abortionists. It was hard enough for most people finding enough common ground with a party filled with anti vaxxers and conspiracists and gun clingers. Too bad, so sad but the line has been drawn to the right of most Americans and they de facto find themselves aligned with Democrats.
All the morons arguing about bodily autonomy during vaccine mandate period are nowhere to be seen. That fool who goes by Strawberry, who lead that movement in Arcata definitely wasnt carrying signs on the plaza today. So much for caring when it’s not about yourself…
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Old School
1 year ago
Please let’s get with the program. Birthing people is the proper term for people that can produce crotch droppings.
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
1 year ago
Only 6 other countries in the world allowed on demand abortions as late as the US yesterday including China and North Korea. Online abortion pills are available nationwide, no change to abortion access from Roe decision for the majority of Americans
Texas already had the most restrictive abortion laws in the U.S. — and they just got tougher. On Wednesday, a new law took effect that adds penalties of jail time and a fine of up to $10,000 for anyone who prescribes pills for medication abortions through telehealth or the mail.
And I am sure other states are working on similar laws..
What nonsense. “In the past, virtually universal access to contraception and abortion for its citizens by a national government service was a common way for China to contain its population in accordance with its now-defunct one-child policy.[11] It was scaled back when the policy was removed in 2015 in favor of a two-child policy and in turn was replaced by a three-child policy.[12]” China treats women as baby factories- encouraging abortion when the Party worried about overpopulation, banning it when the population retracted. Allat the whim of the Communist Party. So now it is to be at the whim of the State in the US as if the women’s uteruses here have become owned by the State and not the women at all. Congratulations on the political alignment with the PRC.
Yep, for someone who’s prolly ordered up gobs of abortions he carried nutter-water on this one. Why, I hear loud hymnals in town right now, however unintelligible the singing in tongues.
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Two Dogs
1 year ago
The best thing to come out of this is that the protesters are outdoors having fun and enjoying that warm California sun.
You might never know who you are standing next to at the store, until you see them holding a sign that makes no sense.
Don’t kid yourself, and if you have daughters, you should care. Or granddaughters. They should have a right to terminate what might be causing them harm.(look up ectopic pregnancy)
And for the love of biology, please read up on ectopic pregnancies. also, on when and where a fetus starts to actually feel pain. No one is just doing abortions, at a viable age, for no real reason.
Late term abortion stories are propaganda. Okay, I mean the ones that are supposedly done at the whim of the woman. When they truly do happen, it’s for serious reasons. You KNOW THAT.
ugh. It’s like I’m talking to a boomer who is stuck in his 10 year old body and mind set. Please, Lone Ranger stop acting like an old man.
Wow- so Hilary Clinton being so sure of herself and kicking Bernie in the balls so she could somehow lose her sure election to Trump is now bearing actual bitter fruit for all women?! Wow- who could have seen that coming? Thank Hilary Clinton and her campaign managers for all of this. We knew from the moment that Trump beat her that this day would come- it’s zero surprise. And to think- all she had to do was respectfully debate with Bernie and his supporters instead of driving them all away…Enjoy all that is starting to arrive you Hilaridiots!!
WASHINGTON, June 25 (Reuters) – President Joe Biden’s administration indicated it will seek to prevent states from banning a pill used for medication abortion in light of the Supreme Court ruling overturning the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling, signaling a major new legal fight.
The administration could argue in court that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) approval of mifepristone, one of the pills used for medication abortions, pre-empts state restrictions, meaning federal authority outweighs any state action
Yes, the FDA has approved it, but someone has to prescribe it. And the user needs to seek a prescription for it.
So many hurdles to jump through and Merrick Garland is saying that …”the states can’t do this and the states can’t do that…blah blah blah…DOJ says…derp derp derp…”
Mitch McConnell did the whole country a favor by not letting Garland get a confirmation hearing. Garland is a self-deluded simpleton!
Roe vs Wade decision……..
The decision is not legally legitimate. It is part of a far-right political conspiracy. It is the latest in a long train of reactionary decisions legitimizing state surveillance, police violence, mass deportations and corporate domination of the electoral system. It was issued by a court that does not constitute a democratic branch of government but a battering ram for medieval clericalism and bigotry.
The court is now dominated by fascistic ideologues. Three of the justices voting with the majority in Dobbs (Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett) were appointed by Donald Trump, the would-be dictator who conspired with two of the justices (Alito and Thomas) to orchestrate a coup attempt on January 6, 2021, seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and establish a dictatorship.
Dobbs is the judicial continuation of Trump’s coup attempt. It is being wildly celebrated by the far-right across the country, which views it as a testament to their power and prospects for the future.
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Joe
1 year ago
Go read Freakanomics or use logic.
In Chapter 4, called “Where Have All the Criminals Gone?”, Levitt expands on the crime and abortion correlation previously discussed in the book’s introduction. He starts with a case study on Romania. When Nicolae Ceausescu became the communist dictator of Romania, he made abortion illegal. The aim was to boost Romania’s population in order to strengthen the nation. Before that point, abortion rates were high in Romania, with four abortions for every live birth.
Within one year of the abortion ban, the Romanian birth rate had doubled. These children born after the abortion ban would lead especially miserable lives, less successful in school and in the workforce on average than children born before them. They were also likely to become criminals. The abortion ban continued until Ceausescu lost his grip on Romania, when in 1989 he was captured and killed by protestors largely consisting of the youth of Romania—the ones who would not have been born, had he not instated the abortion ban.
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burning bush
1 year ago
I can tell there were many deep thinkers out there at the protest when I scroll briefly through the pictures and the first one I read says ‘Don’t Like Abortions, Get A Vasectomy’. I would equate that to something like ‘Don’t Like Drunk Drivers, Go Drink Yourself to Death!”
Thanks for providing clear evidence that not everyone is a deep thinker.
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burning bush
1 year ago
I hope to have sex one day. I don’t even know what to think about this stuff that people get so worked up about. Is it really a big deal? All I see is people who must be having sex so I’m actually kind of jealous of these people that they even get to have sex. I don’t know what to think about the maybe having kids part though. That sounds like a lot to deal with. But I hear sex is awesome. Fingers crossed that my day comes. I try to practice so I’m ready if it happens.
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burning bush
1 year ago
If I hit a pedestrian with my car, should I stay and wait for the cops and face the punishment of potential manslaughter charges. No, absolutely not, especially if I’m on my way home from having an abortion. Can you imagine how traumatic it would be to go to court and potentially jail? It would be already bad enough that i’d be facing massive vehicle repair bills if I even know where to get the work done and all the inconvenience such would cause for at least a few weeks. The police need to understand that the accident was bad enough, I just can’t deal with any more than that. Sorry folks, I just can’t. RIP post man. (Sorry, I mean mail carrier, I mean postal worker, I mean nice thing who I don’t want to describe too much because it’s not nice to ‘they’.)
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burning bush
1 year ago
As someone who tries to help out by running a needle exchange program and passing out new syringes, I’m starting to think there is a need for coat hangers now. I might order some boxes and try to drive by the next protest to hand them out.
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Do you people realize if you’re parents were so gun ho about abortion, all you zesty, angry people wouldn’t be here!
That’s silly. Nobody was forcing anyone to get one. Were all here because that’s what most people want, to have a baby. If you don’t think abortion is the right choice, don’t do it. If it’s so obvious, and clear cut, you wouldn’t need a law. Do you need a law to control the decisions of the women in your life? Do you need shenanigans to elect lying activist Supreme Court justices to force a change in an accepted ruling that goes against popular belief? If so you have a fragile position.
Now I wonder how many of those people believe that everyone should be forced to get a vaccine?
or how manty are against the death penalty
You’d think people who were horrified by that idea would be horrified by using the government to impose their beliefs as anti abortionists. Surprise, surprise! Turns out despite their grand pronouncements they really didn’t believe it at all.
what popular belief is that ?
That a woman can choose for herself what to do with herself. And, if you don’t want to do that thing, then don’t do it, and mind your own business.
Supreme Court justices aren’t elected. They are nominated by the legitimately elected President and confirmed by the legitimately elected senate.
Except when the Senate acts in bad faith by refusing to consider an appropriately nominated candidate when President Obama had nearly a year left on his term and then rushed through Barrett’s nomination just a few weeks before an election.
If the Republicans take control of the Senate after the mid-term elections, you can bet that no candidate for the Court will be considered for the remaining 2 years of the current administration. And if a Democrat wins the next presidential election, they’ll continue to stonewall for an entire term if they can get away with it.
Those tactics worked well in Germany during the 1930’s. Somehow I’m not at all surprised to see the GOP using the same playbook. After all, their Demi-god kept “Mein Kampf” by his bedside. 🙄
The only funny thing is their standard bearer (as judged by sad boy wearing the red MAGA style shirt)soft handed born rich NY tv celebrity Don Jon Trump, has had more of his prospective progeny aborted than 99.9% of the population. It raises the spectre that it’s a red herring issue to motivate ignorant fundamentalists. While this is getting re hashed Trump’s out there spending all your campaign contributions on bailing his fails, and not even committing to running again! Ol can’t shoot an elephant at point blank Wayne Lapierre took all your donations now too, and spent it on his fluffy ass! What a bunch of simple marks.
Only thing the orange baffoon had going for him was, he wasn’t a career politician. Wait til the next non career politician wins the presidential seat, the day is coming quick. Ole Joe is seeing to it, he’s gonna fast track it , crack me up. Bye free loaders
Do you know how much money Musk has gotten from our government ? Free loaders? And honestly, I truly admire and appreciate what Musk has done for space travel (NASA) as well as for electric cars. The amount of $ he receives is breathtaking . You should be much more concerned with that, than with some disabled person or a family in dire need of funds. To literally feed their family and keep them in a house.
and the orange guy played an even shittier game than all the other shitty guys. I know you say you’re only around 50, but I’m starting to think you’re in the boomer years. Also, you should start charging rent to Brandon. Or is it sleepy Joe? Or is it o’l Joe? Maybe my own brain is slipping, and I should put knee pads on or something.
The musks are who i was talking about, but if you feel disabled people should be on the list too then thats ok. I include anyone that gets a government check without working for it. You assume too much bud, the orange baffoon had a good circus going but ole Joe trumps his hands down. Crack me up. Like i said , if a non career politician gets to the white house with half a brain, people are going have to start making a hard honest living, no handouts for backpains or big business for supposively being green. All the same, budget surplus , freeloaders hit the road.
It must be illustrated. I don’t think he can read!
I see your more of the career politician type, same type for the last 60 years, that’s gotten us here. Time for change bud, no government has been proven to last forever, just like the weather it goes in cycles.
Any proof to support your slanderous remark about Mein Kampf? Your analogy of the GOP is laughable but predictable propaganda.
https://libertyfirst.org › is-biden-creating-a-fourthIs Biden Creating a ‘Fourth Reich’ in America? – LIBERTY FIRST
Let’s hope for the good of our nation, that republicans run the board, in the 2022 and 2024 election cycles and stop the destructive and ruinous policies of the left. Remember the democrats blocked a supreme court nomination of Bush using the same tactics. Don’t get me wrong, both sides of the aisle act in bad faith much too often. Let’s drain the DC sewer with term limits and return power to the people.
Weak argument these days. How would it have gone if Obama was afforded his responsibility to select during his term. Not just select; the Senate never even had a hearing. How would it have gone if Trump was denied a nomination as well just because it was his last year?what if Kavanaugh and Barrett were able to speak to their convictions at hearing, instead of lying?
Stuck on a conspiracy theory loop…
Are you then among the cohort so willing to forget that trump never got a majority of the vote….in either election. He did not and does not represent a majority of voters.
And yet our government has seen it ok for so called “Collateral” damage in over 60 years of conquest control of other countries….
This is the best thing that’s happened in this shitty country since 2016. Celebration is in order.
still a great country, celebrate that.
You do realize that there will be absolutely no change to California’s abortion laws and policies. The court’s controversial but expected ruling gives individual states the power to set their own abortion laws.
What they don’t realize, is it will be easier and be able to abort later in a pregnancy here in California. People these days have no foresight. Supreme court just did California pro abortion people a big win, but they don’t even realize it, crack me up.
As someone pointed out the other day, it’s plain to see why you’re the LONE Ranger!!!Just sayin’ ya know!!! ;op
Stand proud Don and pump that biden gold into your car. You are a true Bidenaire.
this type of logic eludes the sensitivities of activist that are protesting the courts ruling
Dude, have you ever known anyone in your life who had an abortion? Did they ever talk to you about it? Have you ever known anyone who had a late term abortion? Have you talked to them about it?
I’m not trolling. I’m truly asking you if you’ve ever known anyone who had an abortion, late term or early on, because either way I can assure you, no one in those situations felt like it was an easy fix . NO ONE.
IT IS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM A LAZY CONTRACEPTIVE.
it is truly the most unpleasant, traumatic, heart breaking form of reproductive autonomy. It’s also very painful. We don’t do this on a whim, it’s a very hard decision to make. Stop believing these Facebook memes that make it out to be some sort of easy out for “sluts”. Abortions are not easy, ever. They hurt our hearts, our bodies, our minds.
Also, please stop trying to spread the idea that late term abortions are just given Willy nilly. You can’t just roll up, with no reason and ask to abort a late term pregnancy. It has to be something very dire, and I think you know that.
I said nothing in favor or against abortions bud. All i said is California will loosen its abortion rules in the next 90 days , BECAUSE NOW IT IS UP TO THE STATE. You don’t have to preach to me about pros or cons of an abortion, I’ve got no skin in that game, i got cut along long time ago. I raised my kids , changed thousands of diapers, took a year off work just to be with my kids when they were young, took them all over the nation as kids . Put them through college, bought them cars , houses and gave them careers to be proud of. If someone thinks they need an abortion, fine, i really don’t care either way.
And if your parents knew how babies were made….
Your comment makes no sense. Most people who are speaking out about a woman’s right to choose what they do with their bodies are of child bearing age. Roe v wade was 49 years ago. What does that mean? Our mothers had the choice to have an abortion and didn’t! We are pro-choice and not pro-abortion!!!!
Exactly
They also had a future that needed people to be cogs in the wheel of capitalism. Economics, is a huge factor in people’s minds.
So, what you’re saying is denying women control of their bodies is justified because it insures a steady supply of labor? Or is that cannon fodder?
I seem to recall you ranting about your right to control your body and not get vaccinated. Your potential to kill hundreds with your careless, selfish actions never seemed a factor then. 🙄
A series of polls by YouGov found that Americans don’t know much about abortions in general, like when abortions are typically performed (in the first six weeks), who gets them (people with kids), and how prevalent they are (42 percent of unplanned pregnancies end in abortion). The number of abortions in the US jumped 8 percent from 2017 to 2020, after decades of decline.
These “pro life” idiots don’t realize that abortions numbers don’t change if abortion is made illegal, it’s just that it will be less safe and we will lose more living mothers and what’s inside of them.
Didn’t Kavanaugh and Gorsuch just commit perjury too?
i see your using the alarmist approach
Try to keep up…. Absolutely nothing will change in California and most other states. Much ado about nothing.
But neither would you, and that would be a plus.
People have children when they are ready. People still want kids, when it makes sense. Unwanted children end up as meth heads if they are poor and in perpetual therapy if they are well off
If someone supports a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy to pursue a better life, wouldn’t they also support a man’s right to abandon his child for the same reason?
It’s self righteous fanatics like you that have reduced the US to a theocracy. If that word’s too big for you it means you’re cheering for sharia Law, but from a different book.
If you’re a woman you’ve just been made a second class citizen. Next you’ll lose access to birth control and eventually your right to enter into a contract.
Just like the good old days. 🤪🤬🤬
As compared to a society of Hedonism…..
Linked to the egoistic pursuit of short-term gratification by indulging in sensory pleasures without regard for the consequences.
Mostly centered around sex and drugs, but also includes looting, murder and mayhem.
There is a lot of space for a civilized society in between the extremes, if only people wanted it and were willing to say no to the extremes.
If you grow up in the ghetto wearing hand me down thrift store clothes, with no father and a crackhead prostitute mother, who slaps you around and tells you she wishes you were never born, going to school hungry, unable to read, selling drugs, in a gang and end up in prison. Your mother should have had an abortion!
abortion won’t change that
But the future is unwritten.
For example the life of judge Clarence Thomas started exactly like that. Until a fateful day when after their house was destroyed by fire and his mother then remarried, his grandfather took over his care ..His father had abandoned the family to go north when Judge Thomas was 7 years old, and his harried poverty stricken mother sent him to live with his grandparents in Savannah, the first time he lived in a house with a toilet. His success, he has told friends, was due to his grandfather’s insistence that he go to school and work hard.
Grandpa should have gotten a vasectomy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
So would our unborn souls be sitting on clouds in heaven lamenting this?
No, you just go to purgatory, a kind of limbo..
Hilarious. These people worship a disgustingly evil deity.
gotta believe in something
It troubles me that life has thoroughly gotten harder for so many. The idea of having a family and raising a family has become a very difficult financial choice.
It troubles me that our children have become a resource to be exploited.
It troubles me that reproduction is seen more as a problem, rather than a solution.
So much energy fighting the invisible chains of mental slavery.
You know that there are over 7 billion humans on Earth right? Reproduction stopped being a possible solution billions of people ago.
End of homosapien,
Rise of HomoDeus?
I dont see the relationship to what I was saying and I didn’t read Homo Deus but I did read Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind.
“I dont see the relationship to what I was saying and I didn’t read Homo Deus”
Looks like you have some catching up to do.
Connect some dots
You know that most of them are in China and India, right?
China’s women are fighting to have more than 1 child.
And those having a pity party here might reflect on the lives of Uyghurs women.
Don’t you know that genocide is just merely “cultural differences?”
yeah Im aware of general human population distributions, so what?
Referring to the protesting of our supreme court no longer being a democratic institution is stupid and insulting, no idea how you see this as being related to the Uyghurs.
Division of People who are controlled by the very same system that has moved their agenda farther ahead than ours#
The Revolution will not be televised
All this is wasted effort over a decision that will change absolutely nothing related to abortions in California. Now it’s just an issue of States Rights…It is sad to see so many protesting, to murder their unborn children, when birth control is such a viable option.
My judgment from the pictures of the pro-abortion crowd is that none of them should have to worry about having an abortion. Severely overweight with purple hair and metal stuff hanging out of your face and disgusting meaningless tattoos is the perfect pregnancy prevention.
All you folks who want women to “choose life” so you can shoot the kid later…just don’t get an abortion. If you feel like every woman must have every pregnancy, then figure out a way to make that decision, the next 18-20 years, easier. If raising kids weren’t such a struggle for so many, nobody would even consider an abortion.
Pro tip: Get yourself a decent father that sticks around and you won’t need handouts
Disconnected from reality much?
Go back to your tree.
I guess if I used my real name, you could save yourself some wasted comment space! Keep basing all action on Ill informed assumptions sad boy.
don’t use abortion as an instrament for birth control
Learn to spell
okay
It’s not.
Did I suggest that?
” If raising kids weren’t such a struggle for so many, nobody would even consider an abortion.”
“If raising kids weren’t such a struggle for so many, nobody would even consider an abortion.”
Lol. If working wasn’t so time consuming, no one would be poor.
Raising children is harder, harder than almost any other long term thing people will ever commonly do in life.
Don’t start things you can’t or have no will to finish.
Don’t start a fight you can’t win.
Don’t put more on your plate than you can eat.
Don’t take risks you can’t pay out on.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
Don’t make promises you can’t keep.
Take responsibility for the risks you take. If you don’t think sex can lead to conception, pregnancy, and child birth, go talk to people who can tell you how it works.
Ok then don’t forget sex Ed, and planing parenthood, and maybe basic biology in school. Drivers Ed and shop classes too.
What if you are raped? Some states are making it illegal to abort a stillborn. A lot of red states are actually making contraceptives illegal.
Also “don’t have sex if you don’t want to get pregnant” is pretty repulsive when you are putting the burden entirely on the woman.
What if you are married, have a bunch of kids and have no legal access to contraceptives in a red state. Just keep cranking out babies cause it’s your duty as a Christian mother? The extreme example of that is the Duggar clan. Is that what you want America to look like? Pedos cranking out babies into a society that provides no help?
Life is sacred for conservatives until the baby is born, after that they are on their own because it is somehow evil to provide a social safety net for citizens?
“A lot of red states are actually making contraceptives illegal.”
Please list the states that have banned contraceptives.
I’m lookin’ Hugh … can’t find verbage stating that. Must be trying alarmist tactics .
I don’t think any have yet passed bans but some have certainly proposed it. Reversing Roe will likely energize that effort.
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/05/19/some-states-already-are-targeting-birth-control
A couple of legislators from Ohio and Missouri tried to include terminations of ectopic pregnancies as also illegal. One especially moronic male legislator tried to get a requirement that an ectopic pregnancy be “reimplanted”. A bunch of idiot men deciding what’s best for the wimmins and the blastocysts, even though an ectopic pregnancy is a fatal thing.
I’m not surprised they’d go after any form of birth control.
“wimmins”?
you people get all up in arms when someome farts and blames you.
How is your post related to the subject of abortion?
That’s a good one. I also have a riddle that requires great intellect…
What is the correlation to playing russian roulette and head wounds?
Exactly
I don’t feel like every woman should have a pregnancy. I think that’s a really bad idea. And who wants to shoot kids? Only monsters do that. I’m sorry, but you aren’t making sense
Talk about not making sense.
Read your own poppycock
People who have sex should use the necessary precautions/protection. If you get drunk or are fooling around and forget about protection and precautions and end up with a pregnancy, both parties should do the responsible thing and bear the brunt of the outcome, not the innocent even if unborn child. However, regarding this ruling, all it does is return the subject of abortion to the states to make their own ruling. You live in Cali so your fine. Chill.
Kids grow up to be people who get shot by ol jam stick 1911s
Still not getting your point. Is it people get shot? Or kids grow up? I mean most people don’t get shot in their lifetime and we all start as babies, and grow into kids, and someday adults. So what are you saying exactly, spell it out for me, remember, I’m ignant.
The schizophrenia between the two pillars of the Republican party. I mean the public rallying points of being pro gun and anti abortion. Guns are used to kill people. I’ll listen harder to a Quaker or somebody’s opinion on abortion, who is at least morally consistent on killing in general.
I’m not a Republican. In fact, I think republicans are a much bigger problem and a lot less intelligent than democrats. Probably the least intelligent lot in the entire US.
Hopefully this clears up a little of your confusion
Not the old we’re smarter than you BS…The leftist talking points are getting very old. How about something new.
Listen bud if you can’t figure out that statement you are the problem. I’m neither Republican or Democrat, I know both parties bear the entirety of the responsibility for the condition of our country today.
Democrats are unified in a cohesive manner. The lockstep of that party is incredible. If Leader Pelosi says one thing every single democrat is parroting that party line from AOC in DC to pink pussy hat lady down to the guy who doesn’t know what bathroom to use.
Republicans have no such unity and are disorganized at best and one or a few always sell out to the Democrats’ wants. Also I watch every Republican talk about how they hate government handouts and all the government programs and blah blah blah. Yet every single Republican dutifully pays their taxes and funds all the stuff they hate because it’s the law der hehe.
So democrats have passed a lot of shit laws but in the end it’s the “silent majority,” ya know, the “working class,” the Republicans who have funded every single last bit of it.
Then I listen to the real smart ones talk about civil war. It’s like you idiot! Stop paying your taxes first! Sure talk about civil war and provide your supposed enemy funds until the day you decide to pull the trigger? On a well-funded enemy who bought their weapons with your money?
Stop paying taxes, but but the gubbamint will take my land! Well change is never easy and requires sacrifice. Milk toast wimpy disorganized Republicans who have funded every single social program and government handout they complain about. Yes you are public enemy Number 1!
You know I voted for Trump right?
Seems as though you can’t connect any dots. So you are saying that Republican tax payers haven’t funded every single social program that Democrats have brought into existence? While at the same time bitching about them? And believing that voting will solve things while one of your RINO’s always flips and ensures the democrat agenda gets pushed through Congress?
I’m saying the ones who continually fund the Democrats and bloated government are a much bigger problem than the actual government itself. Are you saying I’m wrong?
“The schizophrenia between the two pillars of the Republican party.” Could you explain this…
Guns and abortion. Guns are made to kill people. The main argument against abortion is that it’s a life, such a precious life. So precious, I will decide for you. So I could understand being against abortion, if you were also anti gun. The argument for gun ownership comes down to making a decision to end a life on your own terms should you see fit.
Tell me what other platform Republicans have now. Let’s see how many Republicans vote to holiday the Federal fuel taxes.
Why would anyone vote for the $20 gas tax holiday? Our roadways maintenance needs funds
$20? 42 cents per gallon on diesel, or the 18 cents, I can’t remember which one is state or Federal , but if you burn 300 gallons a week driving bullshit around for people, it adds up. $180?
Besides taxation, and highway maintenance is Socialism.
“Besides taxation, and highway maintenance is Socialism.”
No, it’s not socialism. It’s in the Preamble to the US Constitution…promote the general welfare…
General welfare means providing the infrastructure needed for free trade, commerce, and transportation. In later years it led to clean drinking water and sewage treatment. Could have led to free electricity, but by then the politicians were corrupt and getting too many kickbacks from the developing oligarchs.
But I digress. The general welfare in the Preamble had nothing to do with taking from those that do and giving it to the can’t do’s or will not’s. THAT’S Socialism. And it’s high time to end it. Case in point is Kalifornistan. Some of the highest taxes in the nation and the highest homeless rate in the nation. If anyone wants to see that socialism doesn’t work, look at those numbers right there. And idiots keep electing vermin who tell you they need to raise taxes for this n that and nothing gets done, but the abject poor and homeless keep swelling. Idiots even DIRECTLY vote to impose taxes on themselves with bond measures and such.
“There just ain’t no accounting for people so educated, that they ain’t got a lick of common sense…”
Who drives 6000 miles a week? Commercial can simply raise prices
Alright, I’m going to one-up all of you. How about this one.
What if we, the mob of fools……make abortions legal, but the only legal means of abortion is to perform it with a standard firearm. You must compromise with your countrymen. If there is no middle ground, we will all fail. Someone ship guns to planned parenthood so this can all settle and be let to pass.
Play your anti-gun games elsewhere. Your logic is skewed.
“If raising kids weren’t such a struggle for so many, nobody would even consider an abortion.“
It’s only a struggle when one feels they “have” to have a tv, computer, internet, every damned streaming service and cable channel, two cars on loan in the driveway of a huge house with no savings, credit cards maxed out and no will to work (and work hard). Then votes Democrat so they keep having to pay more of their income in taxes leaving less to pay the bank, the auto loans, the landlord, the cable company and then wonder why they don’t have any money to feed their kids or buy diapers. That’s IF it’s a married couple. Even more desperation ensues when a woman decides to fornicate with a boy man, that still rides a bmx bike around, with no job, no future and can’t find his ass with both hands.
What does the world owe ignorant wretches that make stupid decisions?
“Stupid is, as stupid does…” Forrest Gump
We’re about four generations removed from hard working people raising large families in two or three room houses, no running water and no electricity. Ask yourself how your great or great-great grandparents raised your predecessors.
“Ain’t no accounting for people so educated, they ain’t got a lick of common sense.” Grandpa
That’s funny… I always think that all the Pro-Lifers I see are definitely the people no one would want to procreate with. Maybe they should save their opinions for laws that actually impact them. As a 35 yr old female, why are you all so obsessed with my uterus? It’s because you’ll never get in it.
Oh… bless your little baby box!
Thank you 😊 and my future (and wanted) children thank you, too ❤️
👍🏼
35 and talking of your ‘future children’. Time to come down to reality or at least admit you can’t have it all in life. Waiting forever to have kids but still planning to have kids past 35 is pretty irresponsible and selfish considering the increased negative effects to the abilities of someone born to somone relatively old in terms of child bearing years versus someone younger.
I meant wanted as if I get pregnant and chose to keep the baby it would be a wanted child. As opposed to the thousands of women who will now have to carry unwanted babies to full term. Personally I don’t really want kids, but if the situation was right I wouldn’t be opposed, but it would have to be a perfect situation. I’m currently sitting in España on an extended 3 month vacation… I’m completely content with my choices thus far and happy with my life ❤️ Cheers 🍹
…… “As opposed to the thousands of women who will now have to carry unwanted babies to full term….. “
the right to terminate wasn’t taken away, where they can do it was.
Lol, well said!
Sorry, I don’t date older women
If 35 is too old for you… you’re definitely an incel. Little advice: it’s amazing what a human being can accomplish if we break the constraints of the ideologies we believe define us (yes, that includes getting yourself a girlfriend)
Meh, I have my kid, and women for the most part have tired me out. Maybe I have bad taste, maybe I’m a bad picker. Maybe I wore them out. Anyway, just not interested. Check back in a few years, you’ll still be too old though.😉
This is one more insult flying above the radar . Kym incel? Basically sexually harassment right there. And making the inference that ” in my 1911…” is single and through fault of his own?! I don’t see how hurtful and unnecessary zingers like this remain. But for an entire year every single post of mine is hand handled. 🤷♀️ Must have done an unforgivable thing.
No worries mate! I eat it up, I just wish Kym would stop censoring my rebutted, but we all know what side she plays for, it’s all good, haven’t you seen? Even with Biden and a full Democrats Congress, we’re winning on the issues that matter. Must really burn them up lol.
Me too. The conversation is putty, and that moderating hammer sculpts it discussion willy-nilly. I guess the bigger the burn the more desperate and chaotic the efforts…lolz for real.
“If 35 is too old for you… you’re definitely an incel.”
The person is not saying 1911 is an incel. They are stating that an incel is a person that won’t be with anyone older than 35.”
While that isn’t a statement I agree with, it’s a statement that follows the rules.
Interesting interpretation. I think by virtue of the fact that they use a direct address of if “you”… and not, if “one” … It is an obvious attack. Didn’t you already have a big explanation how using one makes it more generic but if you say you it is interpreted as a personal attack
That’s what I thought you said….
I read it to say (based on the stated objection to dating older than 35) if 35 is too old, then – in my 1911 -is def an incel. And you don’t even address the unsolicited advice about how if he breaks constraints and “gets a girlfriend ” he’ll accomplish more …what the hell! He never ask anybody for that.
Incel is a derogatory term and allowing trash like that thoroughly muddies your “rules.” It makes the moderation look persona bias l first. And policy second.
Just wait til you get out of highschool! And then remember… No hugging and dancing! You know what that leads to.
You GO girl! 👍
You hit the nail on the head.
Have you looked in a Mirror, lately, that didn’t Vaporize immediately or sooner??? Just curious is all!!!
Maybe Kym could have a calendar that shows off the bodies of toxically masculine men and compares them to the latter? Let’s have a body contest bud! I’ll be your huckleberry 😉
The actual line was. “I’ll be your huckle bearer.” That was a common term for a pall bearer in the mid nineteenth century.
I love it, thank you for the correction. I’ll have to double check ya, but it’s been pretty embarrassing that I’ve been saying one of my favorite movie quotes wrong.
Val Kilmer said “huckleberry” in Tombstone. Twice to Johnny Ringo.
Even titled his autobiography “I’m your huckleberry”
Either the script was wrong or Val Kilmer recited his lines wrong, but that’s what he said.
“I’d stake my life on it…”
Yeah I didn’t think I had it wrong, but I am always willing to check someone’s correction and accept it if I turn out to be wrong. Seems like a very rare quality these days.
Yo 911, I’ve read some truly disgusting remarks in this forum, but you just took the prize. If you want to know what’s wrong with our country, just look in the mirror.
See if it cracks.
Thank you, I try. I’m just someone who takes care of myself. I had to listen to some truly repugnantly unhealthy individuals trying to lecture me about health for two years because I refuse to take an experimental crap jab. Sorry bud, gloves are off when it comes to health. Just a word of advice, I’m not PC, I love extreme sports, shooting guns, fighting, beer, and babes, but I will take the shirt off my back for anybody who needs it and I always try to stand up for what is right, as outlined in the 10 Commandments, and I certainly believe in earning my keep.
Yes, I’m one of THOSE guys.
He probably goes around telling everyone about his huge penis size or how qualified he is at any job or sport. He’s full of crap!
So kym, you let this comment stand but not my rebuttal? Seems like some bullpucky to me
Blatant bias?
Yeah it is. I just figure with a name like Spanky, we know how he spends his time on the computer.
If the comment I just posted gets moderated then you are very biased in your rules. But I already knew that. Remove both or let both stand
Its not about penis size or bank acct size , but both of mine are huge , crack me up and I’m your strawberry.
Lol! Attaboy!
Spot on…
You make a very good point… For those of us that are knowledgeable, this is much ado about nothing, as abortion laws in California will remain exactly the same.
Yeah gee how could anyone care about people who don’t live in the borders of their states? It’s not an issue of states rights it shouldn’t issue a human rights, which are now in a longer protected.
ya that’s a quandry. Sensetive subject when a woman is feeling threatened about reproductive rights, when the obvious solution is right in front of them.
I see your name becomes you
What solution exactly?
joining the 21st. century
Hahaha!😄✌️🍺
A few more years and slavery will be legal again.
The only thing after that is to all get ourselves onto boats and head back to Britain….
Ha! Slavery was never made illegal! The plantation just got extended from the east to the west coast and from Canada down to Mexico.
Ever hear of property taxes? If you rent you have to work to pay your rent and you don’t get to stop. If you are fortunate enough to “buy” a house, then you have to pay property taxes on it for the rest of your life, or else the government takes it from you. That’s forced labor under duress. And it s a scam. Work your entire life to be able to pay money to pretty much lease land from the government. You don’t actually own it, and you have to keep working to pay the government to keep it, otherwise your out on the street. You ever watch Animal Farm?
And besides, I’m guessing you typed your comment from an iPhone or computer, each of which has chips with conflict metals in them mined by forced child labor. So don’t go bring up slavery when you fully support it, just like I fully support it and anybody who owns an iPhone or shoes supports it. I’m sure it would be mighty inconvenient if you had to make your own shoes or pay the price that shoes would cost if they were made by non-slave labor, just as it might’ve been mighty inconvenient for them southern plantation owners to start picking their own cotton or having to pay to have it picked. Just mighty inconvenient, but as long as it’s not-in-my-backyard, it’s ok. You can virtue signal against it while supporting it all you like.
Oh mercy me! Someone downvotes my comment! What? Don’t like someone saying the quiet part out loud?
Exactly!!! There May be hope for you yet!!!
I forgive you for attempting to place me in a box that I don’t fit in
There’s a spectrum of behaviors. You had Irish slaves, indentured servitude, cults. We still have young Mormon boys building Amazon terminals without pay. There was also the Barbados plantation style slavery based on kidnapped Africans that was imported to the coastal Deep South. Your little “slave wager” comparison is pretty weak compared to what went on. Order a pizza and play grown up video games.
Ya know, in Central American countries the citizens don’t pay property taxes and can actually own their property. Interesting fact
I can recommend a great Realtor. 🙄
Interestingly enough, I lived in Central America for a large part of my childhood. Soy puro salvatrucho.
This… the vermin we have elected and the oligarchs they worship have forced the system to funnel money up…
That’s been the plan since JFK was shot. We’re just now living the end game.
Coming up next: “The Final Conflict” with a cast of millions.
When it comes to economics I prefer Milton Friedman
Exodus! Movement of Queen’s people…
Have fun over there. Enjoy a cucumber sandwich and some twinnings for me!
Lol , and i thought you made somewhat reasonable arguments once in awhile.
Bye! Hope the boat isn’t named Titanic! But it won’t be ‘cause I’m sure you’re going to take a clipper ship or other sailing vessel, ‘cause… global warming. AMIRITE???
Slavery? Can’t get people to work for 30 bucks a hour,they want 70. Robots on the way, slavery is too funny. Maybe a slave to the government handout, i can see that it the future.
Spoken like a person who has never hired anybody.
BUT, your show was canceled when the real Lone Ranger found out what kimosabie meant. 🙄
Too funny, yep I’ve never hired anyONE, crack me up. You got me on the floor rolling, see you around.
The unemployment rate is at 3.6% currently for all of US. 4% to 5% is (was? it’s been awhile since I took economics in school) considered “full employment”.
California is at 4.3%. Texas is 4.2% for comparison.
Seems like people are working. Just not at places that have help wanted signs, mostly fast food joints around here.
It’s not the pay that’s the issue. It’s the inability to retire to your own land and work it and provide yourself your own food and resources while being able to tune out of this society, WITHOUT still paying the government, since you paid to supposedly own your property. Property taxes completely destroy that option. I would like to actually own the land I supposedly own, not have to continue to work to pay a tax to a government so I can continue to keep what I supposedly own. That’s a problem man!
Dead Kennedy’s said it well
Peggy Sue Got pregnant
And was addicted to fifteen drugs
She went down
To the abortion clinic
And was accosted
By right wing thugs
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There’s a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky
Little Mary
Was just eleven
And she was raped
By her own dad
Danny Quayle said
“Have that baby”
But another choice
She said
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There’s a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky
Annie’s pregnancy
Would kill her
Doctor’rs warning
Gave her strife
Fudnamentalists
Said “Jesus take her”
She said, “I want
My right to life”
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There’s a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky
Kathy had two
Kids already
And an abortion
Is what she chose
Christian showed her
A bloody fetus
She said “That’s fine
I’ll have one of those.”
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There’s a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky
Tanya lived for
Revolution
Wanted to overthrow
The state
She had fifteen
Commie babies
Phylis Schlafly
Ain’t that great?
Or will the fetus
Be aborted…
the sex pistols had a damn good take on the issue as well
Bodies
She was a girl from Birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was a case of insanity
Her name was Pauline, she lived in a tree
She was a no-one who killed her baby
She sent her letters from the country
She was an animal
She was a bloody disgrace
Body, I’m not an animal
Body, I’m not an animal
Dragged on a table in a factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby screaming
Body, screaming, fucking, bloody mess
Not an animal, it’s an abortion
Body I’m not an animal
Mummy, mummy, mummy, I’m an abortion
Throbbing squirm, gurgling bloody mess
I’m not a discharge
I’m not a loss in protein
I’m not a throbbing squirm
Ah! Fuck this and fuck that
Fuck it all the fuck out of the fucking brat
She don’t wanna a baby that looks like that
I don’t wanna a baby that looks like that
Body, I’m not an animal
Body, an abortion
Body, I’m not an animal
Body, I’m not an animal
An animal
I’m not an animal
I’m not an animal, an animal, an-an-an animal
I’m not a body
I’m not an animal, an animal, an-an-an animal
I’m not an animal
Mummy! Uh!
Good chart. I’m confident the majority support legal abortions for the 1% in your first six categories but that support diminishes quickly for the 99% of “convenience” abortions your stats show, particularly after 12 weeks when the baby has a heartbeat and feels pain when dismembered in the abortion procedure. Online abortion pills are the most convenient means for women to get rid of their babies, growing in popularity and easy in ALL STATES as buying shoes even after this Roe decision
What are the stats on physical ability to breast feed? Why is there an infant formula “shortage”. Why is it hard to breast feed and maintain a family sustaining job at Waffle House on a minimum wage? Why would a woman work at Waffle House instead of simply choosing to be rich and successful like Amy Barret, or Ginnie Thomas. Maybe we should craft a law that limits a woman’s choice to be unsuccessful.
Tadpoles have heartbeats and feel pain, and just like a 12 week old fetuus, they don’t have human minds
So we agree abortion kills human life but the question is whether we care considering the stage of brain development. Yeah, that’s the question with differing answers amongst the public
No we dont agree, a foetus is a clump of cells, The Bible says life starts at the first breath
Genesis 2:24 ?
The scotus ruling was just a clump of words, what are you so upset about
That’s a hollow argument. All life is is literally clumps of cells
You? You’re quoting the Bible? I thought that was a fairy tale.
Many women aren’t sure they’re even pregnant at 12 weeks.
Here’s a reality check squirrel bait, if men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament.
This isn’t about babies health or your F@#ked up version of morality. It’s about subjugating over half of the population. It’s about producing sufficient canon fodder to launch against the “evil muslim hoards” in the Middle East in your so called final conflict.
You do realize the men who wrote that poppycock were starving monks stoned on ergot and psilocybin? Then King James took your bible to Parliament for final approval.
That might explain how they found people named Matthew, Mark, Luke and John in the Middle East.🙄
Word of god my ass. More like word of misogynist old men hungry for younger women and control.
Just because no reason was given doesn’t mean there wasn’t one. Including the categories listed above it because many women don’t want to publicly admit any of those reasons because of the trauma.
The screeching will go on for weeks.
I was disappointed that there were zero anti-trump signs or pussy hats. I mean, was this even a real protest?
Trump is gone no one gives a shit about that loser
Lots of people care. Haven’t you heard about the January 6th witch-hunt? Dozens of people are watching the proceedings. Dozens!
Especially from the “CONservatard types!!!!
The optics don’t bear that out so far.
“We cannot accept a world where our future generations have fewer rights than those that came before them.”
the pathetic irony of this statement….
Jared Huffman is a fraud who has joined the squad. Most other countries have time limits on abortion save for medical exigencies. The Supreme court ruling does not make abortion illegal. It simply says it’s up to the individual states. They went too far with their ruling, though. They should have simply said the Mississippi 15 week law was within that states power to enact, based on scientific evidence of fetal viability. On the other hand, one certainly shouldnt be able to throw a baby in the trash can at birth. That really disturbs me, as does a total ban on abortion by some states. I wonder how the Court would have ruled if Schuler, Pelosi and company hadn’t chastised the new justices. Payback is a bitch, Chuckie. That goes for you too, Jared.
Hey, back off. I like Jared Huffman. And I keep getting gladder and gladder to be a Californian. Two countries would be fine.
Chastised? I do remember a couple of the recent controversial newbies being asked if they were just there to overturn R vW. So do you think getting “chastised” forced them to reverse their long standing opposition to lying?
I don’t recall overturning RvW was a question posed but certainly wouldn’t expect any nominee to answer even if asked
Why wouldn’t they be proud of their stance? If it’s so popular? It’s cool for a lifetime appointment to the highest court to lie, or omit the truth under direct questioning? Look up the word “Honor”, and “Conviction” in the dictionary.
Notice all the photos of the “crowd” are side shots?
The courthouse lawn is not that deep, fronted by the sidewalk and busy street.
Is Jared Huffman a woman?
I believe he identifies as being able to get pregnant.
Ok you two. This is why nobody takes Republicans seriously anymore. You notice your solo white male counter protest? Help that goofball out by developing an argument in support of your position.
Got ANY Evidence to back up that belief???
If he is, so what? Have you looked in his pants?
BIOLOGICAL SEX IS NOT GENDER! REEEEEEEEE!!!! MEN CAN GET PREGNANT TOO!!! 😆😂🤣
I doubt it, but I’m not sure about you though!!!
just following part lines as instructed by Grand leader Pelosi.
The usual crew showing up again, constitutional ignoramus’ as there is no right to an abortion or healthcare. Sorry liberals, you are protesting for rights which never existed in the first place. That is what is so beautiful about the Constitution, it is up to every individual to take care of themselves, to acquire their own healthcare, payed for by themselves, not everybody else. If you cannot pay, then through the goodness of the taxpayers, there is free healthcare for those in need as well as gov provided healthcare for seniors over 65. It is really pretty simple. And if you get pregnant, it is nobodies fault but your own. Hence, in California you can still get an abortion. In Oklahoma, you will need to go to a pro abortion state. Another simple concept the usual crew doesn’t understand, states rights as spelled out in the Constitution. As an example, the reason they don’t understand is that they would never allow open carry in California and the dems would wig out if the Republicans followed their path and said every state must be the same. Since Arizona and many other states are open carry, then all states will be open carry. For some reason, hmmm, I don’t think the democrats would like that very much. And for guns, it is a right guaranteed in the Constitution, unlike abortion or healthcare.,So democrats, you lose in your mindless, unwarranted, and constitutionally illegal national takeover attempt.
“The usual crew” being women and the people who think women are people the same as men, right? Cuz when you come down to it, this is really about putting women in their “place”, somewhere under the men.
Except for cases of rape, which is a criminal act, the only way a woman gets under a man is by allowing him to get on top. That was her choice.
Hmm, all these strong women that are too weak to say NO.
Sex is for more than procreation ass wipe!
So, is this what the pro-abortion stance comes down to, meme? Because a couple wants to have sex for more than procreation, they want the option of killing a developing human baby because they’re irresponsible?
If a couple wants to have sex for more than procreation, there are simple and effective ways to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.
And yes, one of them may involve ass-wiping after the act is committed.
nope, it’s simple. Making proper decisions in life, not relying on the government to make them for you.
Wow. Health care is not a basic human right according to you. You want to force women to have children they cannot afford and then say tough luck. Your lack of compassion is stunning.
so life has a price on it’s head ?
Occasionally accidents happen, but the whole point of birth control was to give women a choice, and condoms to give men a choice.
If either of you don’t use it responsibly, where’s your compassion for the baby?
Aborting a human is “ healthcare ?” Agreed, there are some ( very few) instances when an abortion may be warranted. There are SO many easily available contraceptives out there now , but I get that some times really bad situations happen. But …. You should know when you are pregnant well before it actually arrives right ? So at some point this little fetus is a human! Where’s the cutoff ? If you are the parent and you go ahead and give birth , can you still abort he/she ? After all it’s your “ choice “ right ? Maybe up to 18 ? It’s just “ healthcare “ right 🤷♀️
Sex isn’t a guaranteed right
The Tenth
So ya got drunk, made a bad decision, had some unprotected sex, and now regret it. So the correct course of action is to take the easy way out and prevent a viable human from having a chance at life by having an abortion? Seems like the real stand-up way to go about life, parents must be proud.
Were people never taught that sex is an act of reproduction and comes with potential consequences of disease as well? I don’t understand the disconnect where people engage in the reproductive act, for fun, don’t use any contraception, and then are surprised once they are pregnant?
A. That’s not a viable human being, it is part of the woman.
B. Mothers with unwanted babies get shame, not pride.
C. Who says the reproductive act isn’t fun?
Hey, women! Get PISSED now.
A. Please provide evidence as to the contrary that it is not a viable human. Science says it is, as an egg upon fertilization, possesses the 4 metrics that science has determined constitutes life.
B. Most mothers who have their children fall in love with them and want them. There are mothers who don’t want their kids, there is an option for that, it’s called giving them up for adoption. If you are mother and make it known to your child that they are unwanted, then shame is well deserved.
C. Just because something is fun doesn’t mean it’s right. I believe people who smoke meth and engage in criminal behavior think it’s fun, do you support them too?
Is sex ever acceptable except for pro-creation?
Yeah it is! Just do it responsibly. Wrap it up and make sure the woman is on the pill. If she isn’t, it’s your choice to take that risk but I wouldn’t advise it.
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
God hates fornicators, but He loves good Christian sex.
Your arguments work if you divorce women from emotion. Just give em up for adoption! Abortion! Such an easy decision! Why, she’s probably glad he split, and her job sucks so she can have a fun entertaining termination!
Shooting guns is fun. A gun is designed to terminate life from a distance by pulverizing vitals with lead. If you are pro gun, and anti choice, you lost any appearance of consistency.
Women who don’t want their children should give them up for adoption because it seems they may have already divorced themselves of any emotion. You honestly sound a little unstable, I wouldn’t recommend you go buy a gun anytime soon.
Second Amendment Bud. Until CA voters in the Bay, and LA decides to outlaw EVERY gun. Because it’s all about LIFE, and States Rights.
Amen brother! 2nd Amendment was written so We the People could protect Ourselves against the greatest taker of life of them all: the gubberment!
A. Please provide evidence as to the contrary that it is not a viable human. Science says it is, as an egg upon fertilization, possesses the 4 metrics that science has determined constitutes life.
No science doesn’t say that. Religion says that.
Can the fertilized egg (i.e. the zygote) survive apart from the uterus? If not, it isn’t a life but a developmental stage on the path to “life”.
4 metrics of life: ability to maintain homeostasis, metabolism, cell division, response to stimuli.
A fertilized egg and developing embryo are incapable of maintaining homeostasis on its own — that’s why it is completely dependent upon the womb to do so. The mother provides homeostatic conditions.
The mother provides nutrients
Biology wasn’t your best subject, was it?
That’s just the four metrics to receive benefits.
WOW! okay your m o is becoming clear to me now
Well, to be fair, contraceptives can fail also (probably a very small amount of cases). But I definitely agree that there could have been many preventative steps that could have been utilized before we get to the abortion step. They didn’t outlaw plan b, did they? That’s still an option for those who were a bit careless with their “night moves.”
This is merely a symptom of the larger problem which you alluded to earlier. People’s lack of (in my opinion) education on the outcomes of sexual intercourse and accountability for their actions.
That’s the thing, nothing was outlawed, abortion was not made illegal, in fact, here in California absolutely nothing will change. The states get to decide what to do with the abortion topic. The majority in California seem to want it, so it will stay. The majority in other states will want it as well, so it will be available in those states, some will place restrictions on it, and others may outlaw it completely, but that is supposed to be based on what the majority of the populations of THOSE states want.
If the majority wants it, it will stay, if it doesn’t, it will go. Seems pretty counterintuitive for Californians to be upset about the minority in other states not getting what they want regarding abortion. If the script were flipped, that means the minority would get what they want in California and abortion would be outlawed, I’m sure Californians would have a fit about that, so maybe mind our own business and other states should mind theirs?
That’s the thing, nothing was outlawed, abortion was not made illegal,
That is demonstrably false. Because of a mix of trigger laws and old laws that were on the books but never enforced, there are now a number of states that have made abortions a criminal act.
You do realize this is the United States of America, right? That means all of us have inherent rights that we all should be fighting to protect. The right to make private medical decisions is one of those, it’s as simple as that.
Abortion pills are available online nationwide and are effective to 10 weeks. This hasn’t changed for anyone with Roe decision, nothing’s changed in California and many other states constituting a majority of the population
Six seeds from the wild cucumbers fruit. They grow wild in Texas too.
Trying to convince people that want to take us back to horse and buggy days because … climate change… that science has evolved in the 50 years since abortion was erroneously legislated from the bench seems counter productive. Especially since they see it as a right in the Constitution that they can’t cite. But the “woke” ones are convinced that the only way to murder their unwanted child (because they cannot logically think through cause and affect) is by the most violent means possible. In the meantime, they want to screech at those of us that would protect ourselves from violent predators that would harm us post-term, that we should not have the means to protect ourselves from that violence with the tools allowed us in the Constitution that we can show them in writing all day everyday.!
You cannot make up a more illogical script that these “oh so educated” simpletons adhere to.
“…by the most violent means possible.”
So a child of a mother, in but their 240th month of gestation walks up to you and attempts to rob you with force…you don’t agree with using a super mild form of violence like shooting his guts with lead? I mean, Second Amendment bro!
Contraception will soon be on the chopping block. You’ll see.
where did you get that idea?
You should read the Thomas opinion on the case — he clearly states that contraception is next on the block along with gay marriage.
his opinion was not a statement of fact
It is a statement of intention by a sitting Supreme Court justice. You’d have to be incredibly naive to think it won’t be pursued in the coming year.
well I guess my naivety isn’t based on fear or speculation.
But remember, our system of checks and balances gives proportional representation to land, and not population in the Senate. The Senate is the gatekeeper for the more popularly represented House. Let’s say everyone is equally mobile in Alabucky. Unpopular laws lead people to just move to another state. Easy right? Florxas would still get two senators despite now having only twelve residents. Like Wyoming now.
So it would only take a few libs moving to Wyoming and left would gain control of two more Senate seats? Sounds like a plan!
Are you joking or just ignorant? You do realize the Missouri law stops women from getting abortions that are products of incest and rape. Incest to you is considered “getting drunk and making bad decisions” ??????? May god help any woman in your family tree….
well then you/they will have to go next door to Kansas to get the proceedure. States rights.
Except Missouri has been trying to enact a travel ban for abortion (multiple attempts already) and Texas is trying to do the same thing. It’s clearly unconstitutional but they are trying nonetheless.
State’s rights should protect incest? Are you serious right now? Dude I’m all for states rights, I’m originally from Michigan, but PROTECTING INCEST?? “If you get raped and impregnated by your dad, you have to have to baby or go to Kansas!” How on earth can you actually make that argument. Are you a product of incest yourself? Cause that’s the only explanation for a utterly moronic and deeply disturbing opinion like that.
I didn’t post anything about that.
You’re defending Missouri’s “state rights” to make it illegal for women who get impregnated by rape or incest from obtaining an abortion, saying they can simply go to Kansas. Essentially Missouri is protecting incest and rape pregnancies by forcing women who are impregnated by incest and rape to go full term, and by you defending Missouri’s states rights to do just that, you are in fact defending incest and rape pregnancies. So you’re cool with incest, rape and inbred children? That’s messed up, dude….
No I tkink emotinally over stepped your boundries. You made a statment of fact and I made a statement of fact. In fact I proposed an option. I’m still searching for information on Missouri’s abortion bill banning abortion in the case of incest or rape.
[edit] you didn’t emotionally overstep anything with me. You just overstepped because you’re pro states rights to defend incest and rape, which is totally twisted, dude. Also, a simple google search will suffice for your research[edit]
https://fox4kc.com/news/no-exceptions-for-rape-incest-in-missouri-abortion-trigger-ban/
Takes two to tango. Then: “…once they are pregnant?”
“Sorry babe, I’m not ready to be tied down yet, besides what would happen if my girl found out? See ya, I’m going back to my important jerb”
Or ” “it was her irresponsible CHOICE to be so drunk at the party that I had to fornicate her! My dad gave the school a million bucks, I can’t take time off to change diapers!”
She couldn’t take a birth control pill before she got drunk at the party or slept with the sorry babe dude?
Couldn’t keep a morning after pill or two at home?
There are women who are victims, and many that just play victim but actually actively instigated their own situation.
Be truthful.
I’m a woman and I know a few women who thought if they got pregnant they could capture or have the means to control “their” man.
You should meet my most fundamentalist Christian friend’s kids. Hate to say it, but they never learned about that stuff. Wishfully thinking by adults who should know better left them ignorant. They end up doing weirder riskier stuff. No details out of respect. It’s sad.
I’m a single dad
Not terribly surprised about that.
Oh, quit yer bitchin’ “ladies”. You can still kill your babies, just not up until the moment of birth…hopefully. At least if you have abortions you won’t be raising more pro-abortionists. Maybe you will abort yourselves out of existence.
Who is forcing you to have sex (not including rapes)? No one. Who is responsible for utilizing contraceptives? BOTH parties. How does this effect you or any other Californian? It doesn’t.
If you want to direct your indignation appropriately, offer to shuttle people from anti-abortion states to here to get their medical procedure performed. But that would actually take effort and not just lip service… Were you even at this protest?
Hmm… This reply was to “Sarah” who has mysteriously disappeared…
Texas. So pro life. So pro life, that even 100:1 in force, with all the weapons and armor available, the Law sat around while 19 (post conception) kids were killed. A mom ran in and rescued her kids, and now faces prosecution for her act. It’s almost like this is more about a bunch of men posturing, but not taking any responsibility for consequences.
That has nothing to do with what I stated. Please stay on topic if you want to discuss abortion. Gun violence in schools is another matter entirely. The posturing is entirely on you at this point.
hormones must of enterfered with the thought process
Well, the same day, the court also took on, and struck down a hundred year old gun law in NY. So it points to the obvious dissonance with this whole Reverence for Life bullshit.
Yew haw cause we cain’t trust the gubbament to protect us citizens from the swarm of illegal invaders coming across our southern border. We gots ta do it ourselves now ya know? Yee haw bang bang!
Those are two non related cases with two different rulings. I can conflagrate two unrelated events as tied together as well; but you’d probably call me a conspiracy theorist, right? I didn’t mention anything on congruity of ethics in these proceedings; you did. Maybe that’s your prejudice showing?
? stay focused …
Save the children?
are you on your third margarita
Perhaps a DNA test should be preformed in pro abortion states and the man should have to attend the procedure and watch his child be dismembered.
Then men might take sex more seriously.
Two people do it. One of them gets stuck with the baby. Let that one make the law. If you are a woman and don’t want an abortion, don’t do it. What if we just let woman lawmakers, and justices vote on this? What do you think the outcome would be?
The man doesn’t get a say or a choice if the woman has the baby.
She has all the rights and that’s why she gets “stuck” with the baby, the baby is sometimes used as a pawn to control the man.
These are typical situations.
I think many men would take the baby if given a choice,
she gets 9 months and the wear on her body, he gets 18 yrs or more and the wear on his body.
He might even have another woman who wants to help raise the baby.and that might really piss her off.
There are many scenarios, but as it stood and still stands, the woman is the only one with rights, none for the father or the baby.
She doesn’t even have to tell the father she’s pregnant, she can even take the morning after pill before she knows if she’s pregnant,
How much power called choice does she need?
I think we need more solutions than kill the innocent baby.
One would be a birth control pill for men.
Pills for feral cats would be useful to.
That’s why We the People need our guns! Them law enforcement can’t be trusted to do the dern job right!
I mean look at all these damn pot grows around the country. They have an entire sheriff’s department and a satellite, millions of dollars, and state of the art weapons and ammo and what? Gimme a group of 20 men and half the budget of the sheriff’s department and we’d have every pot grow in the county eradicated in 24 months.
Yee Haw! Bang! Bang!🔫🔫🔫
I dont think folks get that this is really about privacy laws. scotus will now go after all privacy rights, make gay marriage illegal, and other christian nationalist agenda items. Along with big biz agenda.
Time to be done with scotus. 6 people placed by presidents who get to make all the decisions is bullshit.
I guess babies being born into situations like being traded for sex, sodomized,beaten, starved, tortured etc is better than death.
Christians are sick fucks, damn.
They only care about the fetus not the child once its born. Theyre the first ones to then complain about welfare moms, poor parenting and unwanted kids who usually end up in jail.
I soooo wish CA, OR &WA could join as one and secede from this country, we would have such a productive country!!!
Yeah, maybe Texas across to Florida could split off too. Oh wait, we tried that before
I guess babies being born into situations like being traded for sex, sodomized, beaten, starved, tortured etc is better than death.
Logic says that those babies aren’t coming from the women having abortions.
Those people when found should be sterilized and doing long terms in prison.
Go spend your money on Ukrainians pensions.
IMPEACH GORSUCH AND KAVANAUGH!
https://www.google.com/search?q=gorsuch+perjury&oq=gorsuch+perjury&aqs=chrome..69i57.5757j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
The supreme court left it up to individual states to decide and we all know how California thinks of abortions. These protesters look like a bunch of morons!
and you sound like a trump-et
okay Hillary
So the Court just opened a can of worms. What if CA outlawed any gun. Got your States Rights, and satisfies the “every life is precious” crowd.
No one wants to impregnate these losers anyways thats why they have the time to hold there cardboard babies
Can someone please explain how taking rights away from American citizens is in any way a good thing? I do not consider myself a “liberal”… I have continuously voted for members of both major parties. I truly believe in the old Land of the Free & Home of the Brave. Get vaccinated or don’t, I don’t care, it’s your body. Buy a gun if you want, smoke some green and marry whatever sexual orientation you wish (as long as they’re consenting). Like I said…. Land of the FREE. Why is the same consideration not applicable for child bearing aged women? In all honesty, why do you all care so much about what other people do?
It stinks of incels in this comment section. Sorry y’all can’t get laid but get a life, no one cares about your opinions on laws that do not effect your body at all.
“…no one cares about your opinions on laws that do not effect your body at all..”
Psssttt… that’s why you’re here commenting on the first place.
The reason I’m commenting is my initial question. Please answer it instead of throwing illogical and irrelevant comments back at me. Why is it ok to take away any freedoms previously granted to American citizens?
Because it was unconstitutional legislation from the bench in 1973 and it’s not a right or freedom guaranteed in the Constitution to murder our unborn future citizens.
I, and several others have pointed out these facts elsewhere in the comment section.
However, should you reside in the United Socialist Counties of Kalifornistan, you’re still going to enjoy the pleasure of state sanctioned murder, should you so choose. The vermin running this state will find ways to funnel its indentured servants earnings to the abortion clinics that launder that money back to their wallets or purses while throwing a few crumbs to those that will not so they can continue garnering votes from the parasitic class under the guise of “helping the less fortunate” as the numbers of lower middle class continue to decrease while the abject poor and homeless increase.
In the meantime, those that do will continue having their earnings stripped to continue the flow of money up to the oligarchs who pull the strings of the vermin (politicians).
You may keep contributing to your enslavement.
Human life is aborted and that bothers some, like murder, it’s a morals issue
that and using abortion as birth control.
To reduce the number of abortions, and increase adoption, you should work harder fighting for gay marriage.
WTF ! must be getting late and your getting punchy
When life actually begins is a dispute as old as time. As a woman it’s still my body and I should have the FREEDOM to choose what I want to do. Once again, please answer my question: why is it ok to take away freedoms previously granted to American citizens? It’s remarkable to me how these stark republicans preach FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM but dance around my question regarding abortion rights when I ask it.
If a man’s penis is in your body, does that mean you then have the right to do anything with it, including things that are destructive biologically to it even though it was invited in?
If you’ve read any of my comments you would know I’m clearly defending products of rape and incest. And in that regard, if a man’s penis is in my body as a product of rape or incest, then yes, I would like to do anything “biologically destructive” to it that can be done (which I’m not sure what that means, and I’m genuinely intrigued. Please provide examples, not being sarcastic at all… Genuinely want to know.)
I hope your accounting skills are better than your reading skills.
“even though it was invited in”
an example of ‘biologically destructive’ would be engaging in oral sex and then biting off a man’s dick because it was technically inside your body. The point i’m making is that just because something is in your body, does not necessarily imply there is logic to support doing whatever you want to it much more than to things that aren’t in your body. Rape and incest are not ‘invited’. Few abortions are the result of rape. How many drunk drivers are just surprised soon-to-be-fathers who’s wives waters suddenly and unexpectedly broke, because if it has ever happened that a father has driven drunk with his wife to deliver to the hospital, that people should support drunk driving.
….”rape and incest.” on that subject we agree
You have the freedom to exist….let’s say in a few year’s society decides you’re not a benefit to climate change, so we can just exterminate you, to make our lives better. After all you’re a burden, as are the mentally ill, the physically handicapped, autistic…hmm, where does it end?
You’d be fine with that, right? After all, it’s our world, our choice.
Hypothetical of course…maybe.
I am a college educated 35 year old healthy woman. I primarily work as an accountant and have always contributed my fair share of taxes to the good ole USA. You’re honestly comparing me to an unborn fetus? I’m not condoning abortions in the 3rd or even 2nd trimester… I’m talking about literal sacks of cells. How do you truly not see the difference?
I’ll say the same this to you as to the others then, if you’re so morally above me and pro-life, then can I have your address? I’ll give it to the women who are forced to give birth to their rape and incest babies. They can drop the unwanted children off at your door, which will unquestionably have mental and psychological issues, and you can spend your life and your money taking care of those children. But it’s all good, Since you’re sooooooo pro-life right?
When will you people learn this will one day affect you, too. Nothing breeds criminality more than an unwanted child in an unnurtured environment.
As a 71-year-old woman who’s raised 2 kids, and many of their friends, I would think a college educated 35-year-old healthy woman might better spend her energy
creating a nurturing environment for all people not only babies to live in, instead of supporting killing them, but it might cost some of your precious money and time out of your life…. I’ve heard people that do that are called heroes and much loved in their communities.
Look around, some amazing people were raised in an un-nurtured environment, and they usually had a mentor.
I’ve had kids of wealthy parents come over that would rather have a plate of rice and beans at my house than eat steak at their own, especially if they got to help make it, money isn’t everything.
Still waiting on that address……
You give me yours, and we can pile the dead babies on your porch.
So don’t have an abortion. I have an option to get a hip replacement. Doesn’t mean I want one.
States Rights uber Allis.
Also, since you care about human life so much, can I have your address? I’ll give it to the women who get impregnated by rape and incest and can’t obtain abortions. They’ll drop their unwanted inbred and rape babies off at your door for you… and you can spend your life (and money) taking care of those children who will undoubtably have medical and psychological issues. But you welcome them, right? You know… since you care so much about human life.
And how many abortions do you really believe that situation accounts for out of the multi-millions of abortions?
When I was a kid, there were women dying from ” back-room abortions “, and I fear that will be so again. Also, orphanages of unwanted kids, many with special needs.
There’s online pills arrive in couple days nationwide
They are trying to make those inaccessible as well
Get some spares for future while you can
you can still abort in cerain states, all I want to happen is that people use common sense prior to creating life. And adoption is a wonderful option.
How many kids have you adopted?
none, you ? adoption is another option other than abortion
The stupid, ignorant comments here do nothing to make me less happy to live in California where we will continue to be a state that supports women, and their constitutional right to privacy. Shame on your comments. This comment section has become a room of bigots, wing nuts and the bottom of the barrel of humboldt culture.
Uh, sorry to burst your bubble, but these viewpoints are exactly representative of your friends and neighbors. Remember; you get to comment too. Does that mean that YOU’RE a bigot, wing nut, or other “deplorable?” Not everyone shares your opinion. Figure it out.
” Figure it out.” PLEASE DO!!!!
I have. Have you? How many quips do you lazily offer us with no substance or position other than hatred for others?
Stupid ignorant protester signs that say…
“Abortion is healthcare”, are sickening…
When the focus of healthcare becomes abortion, we are lost as a civilized society.
Such protesters may as well sport banners that say…
“EUTHANASIA IS HEALTHCARE”…
Abortion is euthanasia, no matter how you slice it.
And for all the people who haven’t figured it out yet, here is another very good reason to keep your dick in our pants, and/or shut your holes…
https://www.drugtopics.com/view/world-health-network-declares-monkeypox-outbreak-a-pandemic
This must have been what Biden was talking about needing more money for…
Not a dime, or such things will never end…
Not a dime.
So what Fauci lab produced this monkeypox variant?
Yep…
Fauci teamed up with Biden and his pet research group , University of Pennsylvania, to play games with monkeypox…
https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-fauci-funded-monkeypox-vaccine-maker-paid-bidens-host-university-for-clinical-trial-of-monkeypox-vaccine/
“The University of Pennsylvania is being paid by Bavarian Nordic,” the 2014 document states. Biden joined UPenn after leaving the vice presidency in 2017. Anthony Fauci used approximately $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to pay Bavarian Nordic for the vaccine and the Biden administration has used over $100 million in taxpayer funds to buy the monkeypox vaccines.
As I also reported, the University of Pennsylvania makes massive money off Coronavirus vaccines. UPenn gets paid by Pfizer’s vaccine partner BioNtech in licensing payments for mRNA technology and UPenn even makes more money if Pfizer-BioNTech sells more vaccines and gets more FDA approvals from the Biden administration, thanks to a deal UPenn made in 2018 when Biden worked for the university.”
Bavarian Nordic helped Biden get elected…
Holy shit! You believe the world was free of germs prior to 2020? Time for bat soup!
Questioning US government Dr Birx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oEciovyT44&ab_channel=TheRandomArchivist
2:20
Should The United States Be In The World Health Organization?’: Jim Jordan Grills Dr. Birx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GE62rNmXfA&ab_channel=ForbesBreakingNews
Brix has some interesting things to say, you really should listen to her, it’s very short.
Euthanasia might be better healthcare than we get. My Dad’s MIA in Kaiser, supposed to go to a care facility, they didn’t know he was coming, nobody tells my Mom nothin. We don’t know where he’s at. Time to file a writ of habeas corpus! Before the Supremes get rid of that. My Grandma in law (90) had back pain, took what they gave her, her neighbor’s a doctor, pointed out they prescribed her anti depressants!? Never explained what they gave her. Now they’re telling her, “oh you better wean yourself off that slowly!” Shes uptight, but definitely not depressed.
I don’t understand the point, California it’s legal so no issue here to kill your babies. The constitution never eunumerated any right to abortion, Meaning the federal government never had a right to force States to allow it, only the states have the right to decide as per the constitution. If you want federally protected right to kill babies there is a process called constitutional amendment, there are 2 ways to do it, state convention or Congress.
I sincerely doubt a constitutional Congress will ever be called, as any amendment to the constitution could be challenged or changed. I think that’s a big roadblock for the state of Jefferson as well.
The State of Jefferson is already road-kill. Nobody cares except a few creeps.
You know, you could state a point and back it up instead of just insulting others. Maybe try that? Why are they creeps? What don’t you agree with? That’s how adults discuss things.
The constitution never enumerated precisely which day of the week you have a right to a fair trial. Go ahead and complain all you want to the wall about your secret indefinite detention.
All this not-in-the-constitution talk by the “pro-life” crowd. It’s cover. Go read the actual history of abortion in the USA (not Christian-machine backed sources … who like to conveniently edit Hx).
18th through 20th Century Hx, in particular, is men (led mostly by society-leading all-male doctors, politicians, businessmen) behind closed doors sticking their dicks in women most any time they wanted to. Whether women wanted IT or not. Then women being left with the resulting decision, OR, the man swinging his other dick (the fist, and/or financial power) decreeing “get rid of it”.
It’s best not to try and be too sophisticated, lawyerly, high-minded, over what’s really always been an issue of swole: men, swinging dicks of all kinds, ejaculating everywhere, then either walking away or decreeing what happens next. Today, cuz they can’t ejaculate at will nor slap women around so easily anymore, the old male-mindset still has dick pushing into women’s minds. Eject!
Quite an erotic fantasy you’re wallowing in, Rimme.
Please, tell us more…
“Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
Clinton like to use cigars…were you complaining then?
Fun Fact: MoveOn.org was created specifically with the intent to shift attention away from Bill’s lascivious proclivities. Obviously their job isn’t done (although that propaganda campaign has itself moved-on to pursue other objectives.)
Didn’t know that.
Ah, but then all the involvement with Harvey Weinstein, Epstein, Podesta’s etc. kinda outed them.
They all Dems and Repubs still want Julian Assage dead.
Ah, the Queen of deflection. Welcome!
anger issues ?
This is the 21st century when women buy medical booty pops, breast implants, Botox, all just to keep unwanted men away, right….
Buy another Stacy Abrams novel. LOL
There’s plenty of participation by both sides.
Woman holding the kid with the sign that says, “I deserve better than this shit” is really going to have some explaining to do to that kid in 20 years.
I deserve better than to have to work.
Me devoted Catholic mum had me and several siblings before Roe. She wanted abortions but they were illegal and her church demanded she have children she didn’t want. She was a complete unfit mother who’d go to prison for abuse by today’s criteria. She wrote letters to celebrities trying to sell us off. Finally her church gave us away. Me brother Anthony went to the Catholic Nebraska Boys Farm where he was sexualy, physically abused for a decade before turning 18 and let go. I had a similar fate. It would really had been better not to have been born. To start out in life with such heavy burdens is the true crime here. Not all women are fit to be mothers as not all men are fit to be fathers. Adoption is not the answer.
66 years old, Atheist, Queer and Proabortion.
The solution would be killing the people running the Nebraska Child Prostitution ring that was ran by Larry King. If you kill those adults instead of the conceived, you wouldn’t have that going on. Instead, this country is so corrupt, it lets publicly disclosed child sex traffickers working to blackmail the government go free while we debate the merits of the value of snuff out the growth of life.
You mean the one that was declared a “carefully crafted hoax” by state and federal grand juries?
It was Pizzagate, before Pizzagate was cool.
False conspiracy theories are damaging to actual victims.
Are you saying the case of Larry King of the Nebraska republican GOP in the 80’s I think is a completely made up story. I don’t know what pizzagate is but I doubt the story of the Israeli spy called Jeffrey Epstein doing the same on a more elaborate scale is not something to scoff at as non-sense conspiracy ‘theory’. Do you think that Epstein & Maxwell are not real people?
The Franklin child prostitution ring is, and was determined to be a hoax. King and others in the credit union were busted for embezzlement. As i said, state AND federal grand juries found it to be so. In fact one of the false accusers went to prison for 4 1/2 years for it.
I’m just interested why you went back over 30 years to a discredited case instead of correctly pointing out Epstein.
Oh, Pizzagate? You know, the one where Hillary and other Democrats were running a child abuse ring out of the basement of a specific pizza joint?
One that didn’t have a basement, btw. But that didn’t stop some idiot from bringing a gun to said pizza place to “save the children”. Thankfully he didn’t hurt anyone, but he did fire off some shots from his tacticool rifle. He was sentenced to 4 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory
Lol. You trust pedophiles.
Why are you posting a link to pizzagate and not to information about Boys Town in Lincoln Nebraska that Larry King was using as a source for underage kids to traffic parties targetting US politicians for blackmail. I smell an Israel supporter who thinks Jeffery Epstein didn’t do any wrong.
So many Triggers, so few based on actual facts.
a lot of scare tactics
Uhm, what? Care to expand on that rather slanderous comment?
You brought up the King “scandal”, I pointed out that it was found to be absolute bullshit.
Crap like that and Pizzagate do more harm to actual victims of pedophiles, because false accusations make people more skeptical of actual reported abuse. And like I said, why did you bring up an old discredited thing instead of leading with an actual case of abuse (Epstein).
Qanon and Pizzagate are fake conspiracy theories to discredit and distract people from the real stories of child sex trafficking targeting the government. Democrats and Republicans have been targeted. This is not a Trump / Clinton moron analysis that you probably want.
The original comment was about Boys Town in Nebraska. You brought up Jerry Springer level of sophistaction with Pizzagate and Qanon. You obviously think the kids used from Nebraska were lying. I won’t try to convince you of anything you are clearly opposed of analyzing or have made a complete determination on already. I will share information with people who do want to know more though, and people like you will be exposed. Do you think the government is honest?
Why do you clearly avoid the subject of what Jeffrey Epstein was doing. He was working for Mossad and running child sex trafficking rings targeting the US government for blackmail of influential individuals. Do you think that is not true? If you ignore Nebraska as well as your favored subjects of Qanon, isn’t it enough to know about Jeffrey Epstein to think that ignoring what he was doing while putting effort to talk about other issues seems to support them and their activities by saying it was not real.
Uhm…again, what?
I’m not “avoiding” Epstein. He’s dead, Maxwell is prison. As it should be. If any of his pals, including Bill Clinton or Donald Trump were involved, put them in prison as well.
I don’t know how to make it any clearer to you.
Because you may not think you are a QAnon type, but….
Qanon is bullshit. The gulf of Tonkin and the US lying about Vietnam was real. The goverment does lie. The CIA sold drugs to domestic drug dealers inside the continental united states. You seem to have some Brady Bunch version of government conduct and history.
I don’t think the Nebraska kids were lying, grand juries did. take it up with them.
The McMartin thing also comes to mind.
Oh, go ahead and “expose” me. “rolls eyes”.
How does a jury lie. You may know but I can’t think of a way a jury lies. I thought a jury just makes a decision of guilty or not guilty, on a spectrum of potential charges. Do juries get up and talk and argue issues? I can expose the information than a smart reader could then conclude from reading that you are likely interested in putting effort to discredit something that should not be worth your effort unless you are into some weird things.
That’s a lot of words to say nothing about what I said.
I didn’t say the grand juries lied. The grand juries found the accusers were lying.
Oh please “expose”. I look forward to the “exposure”. That’ll learn me!
I am “discrediting” things that were, you know, discredited already.
How you leap from that to..whatever…is weirdly fascinating.
The documentary that was produced by The Discovery Channel (in the 90’s I think) was removed because all the claims the kids made it it were lies right. All the articles about Larry King were lies right. You have even concluded that other related claims to animal and child sacrifices were also far out BS claims and not based on anything of substance, just imagination and desire to destroy the credibility of people targeted by the accusations is sounds like.
Paul Bonacci, one of the kids to tells his story was full of it and making false claims it sounds like you think.
And why post a wikipedia link to the pizzagate distraction and not to the government version of the the actual boys town prostituion ring wikipedia article. The article gives the coverup version of the story, but at least keep it relevant if you are trying to present the cleansed version of the story, wikipedia made it easy for you but you prefer to do straw man arguments by bringing up some moron targeting moving like Qanon and the associated Pizzagate dumbed down stories of no substance or information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations
William Barr has been around to cover up child sex trafficking planned by his father since at least back to the time of Larry King in Nebraska. Letters were sent to him notifying him of what was going on but he instead helped to cover it up. The same thing is happening with another ‘Jeffrey Esptein type of Character’ in the form of Michael Goguen, who also working on behalf of an intelligence agency. He currently lives in Whitefish, Montana and has similar connections that Jeffrey Epstein also had. He is involved in sex trafficking and is backed by intellginece agency funding by hiding the money in the cover of his ‘venture capital’ career. He is no different. There are multiple Jeffrey Epstein’s out there and they are doing a job planned by people above them. Jeffrey Epstein was just one of many agents targeting the US government. If you think I’m full of it, maybe look up ‘Operation Snow White’ and see what even the Church of Scientology was capable of doing to the US government if you think decades and decades of ongoing blackmail operations are something to try to downplay and act as if they are not realistic threats.
me too, I turned out okay
roflmao…. you again, like a hemeroid. I see your stll angry at me and the world for past issues. Word of advice, get over it, she lost !
Rolmaosmhisogtfo… Why you should never practice your comments out loud at the mirror.
some should just tap out and move on
Very relevant story. Thank you for that perspective.
It’s official now–America will be dictated to by the Pope of the Roman Groomer Church, a man who wears a dress and has never had sex (with an adult woman).
It’s not Catholics, it’s the “Evangelicals”. As Barry Goldwater (no libby there) said:
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
It’s both — 5 of the 6 justices who voted to overturn Roe are Catholics. Barrett was a member of an ultra-conservative Catholic cult. Gorsuch was the only justice voting to overturn who isn’t Catholic and he was raised Catholic but now apparently attends an Episcopal church.
That’s true. And a good point. However, the “Moral Majority” crap that started gaining political power in the 80s was led by Protestants.
I do get finally get to chuckle, though, now that the Southern Baptists are finally having to confront their own abuse by church elders, pastors, etc. Finally.
Families damaged by betrayal makes you chuckle? Hmm
Self-righteous assholes getting their comeuppance amuses the hell out of me.
Pope’s a democrate
big fingers, small screen, ya got what I meant, right?
The Democrats are going to try to use this ruling as a way to energize people to support them in the midterms. They’re going to promise to pass legislation to legalize abortion etc.. but that’s not going to be politically viable. If it was, they would have done this a long time ago.
Definitely works for me. I have my issues with the democrats; the homelessness issue which they have a blind spot about, the permissiveness on drug culture etc but an issue like this trumps others. Womens freedom is very important to me and taking freeedom of privacy away is not what the court should be doing in this time. Also, most of the country agrees with me so, I guess this will be a losing issue politically with the backward thinking republicans.
The Democrats move forward, maybe sideways but trying to go forward. Republicans are clearly the party of backwards.
Of course it’s legally viable. But they don’t need to actually do it to win elections this year. All they have to do is promise.
That, or…
The Republicans are going to try to use this ruling as a way to energize people to support them in the midterms. They’re going to promise to pass legislation to outlaw abortion etc.. but that’s not going to be politically viable. If it was, they would have done this a long time ago
The Republicans have an energized base already for the midterms if you believe your own polls. Banning abortion outright is much less of an issue for working class republicans than gas prices, inflation, foreign aid and entanglements.
The naive fantasy that liberals and democrats will become “the party of peace” again is ridiculous. The diehards are more numerous and bloodthirsty than any of the Supposed white supremacy nazis that the left continually cries wolf about. I don’t think we’ll get too much rioting over this, but we’ll see.
Oh and I saw what you did there haha
It’s their game plan to make it seem like they care more than the REPs and that there is a big difference between the parties. But both parties are run by the mega-wealthy for the mega-wealthy and both are militaristic and corporate- owned. Neither party cares about you or me or any of my neighbors. The DEMs under Clinton and Obama had the presidency AND both houses but never passed legislation assuring abortion rights, just like they have not under Biden. It’s a smokescreen and you are all being played…They have $$$$ and if one of their family needs an abortion they will just fly to a state like CA and get it done in a nice care facility with Netflix and excellent food. They do not care about us. Get it through your head. It’s just a game to them…working the masses into frenzy and laughing, laughing at their country clubs
“wonderful ” I see what ya did there…. lol
Leaving abortion up to states, is like leaving slavery up to states. We need to make a womans right to abortion federal law NOW
And that is exactly why the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs Wade. The Supreme Court attempted legislation from the bench in 1973. That’s unconstitutional and abortion is not a right enumerated in the Constitution. Therefore, it is only Congress that can pass a bill that needs to be signed by the president to become a law. If Congress is split on the issue, it will remain up to the states to legislate based on their constituents wishes.
But demanding it NOW like the child told no in the candy aisle is just going to garner pro-choice people a lot of resentment and bitterness. Chances are no one is going to listen to, act on, or give into your demands.
It’s weird because at 2 different recent points the DEMs have controlled the House, Senate and Presidency. Why didn’t they pass that legislation? They didn’t even introduce it! So…what’s up with the DEMs?? Why do they take such a big stand yet do nothing?
no, just as much as they don’t want SCOTUS telling them what thet can do with their bodies, the don’t want the federal government telling them what they can do with theit bodies.
Having the freedom to choose is far, far different than telling anyone what to do with their bodies. If it’s about freedom, then why haven’t answered my question: why is it ok to take away rights previously granted to American citizens?
this decision didn’t take away your ability to choose
Yeah, yeah, like an E.R.A. amendment.
Oh, wait……
Hi Lemmings. I hope this abortion sideshow distraction is sufficient to keep you idiot human monocrop busy in your empty echo chamber skulls while we devalue the currency your lives are completely intertwind with and dominated by and you keep bickering about non-issues. People who feel the need to ask the government for what they are allowed to do are the problem. Do what you are going to do. You want to end the growth of your conceived (egg fertilized by sperm that is rapidly proliferating cells and developing as a unitized biological entity of organized cells) isn’t that on you as much as anything else. Heroin and meth are illegal and that stuff is available. You really think the police are going to come get you for snuff out the growth in your belly. Your bigger problem is asking the government for permissions. By asking for permission and being dissappointed by their answer, you lost your own rights and power and authority. If you need the government to help you, and that’s why you ask of their approval and stance, then it makes sense to be concerned about their determinations.
Why not decriminalize abortion instead of making it legal or illegal. Every time you idiots go looking to the government to tell you what’s right or wrong you lose no matter what the answer is.
I will also now be a prick and point out the obvious. Judging by protest pictures, half the women at the protests supporting abortion would be lucky to have sex with someone who would stick around, and many look very far from being physically healthy for the good of carrying a child through a full term pregnancy.
Abortion is not something to be proud of or fight for any more than deforestation.
👏🥳👍👍👍✌️🤙
Indeed…
Ummmmmm back alley abortions are drastically different than legally obtained medically provided abortions by doctors. Are you not familiar with basic OBGYN practices??? I’m confused by your comment, are you condoning the use of coat hangers by saying they’re the same as a doctor administered abortion, or condoning doctors risking their licenses and freedoms to perform illegal yet medically sound abortions?
If a coat hanger is the best a person can figure out then maybe that is what they should use. Without being versed in abortion practices, I’m willing to talk out my ass by stating that there has to be at least a few other realistic alternatives than using a coat hanger. That’s like saying if the government banned masturbation, it would mean you are now technically forced to masturbate with pineapples. Of course when you are going to shove a coat hanger in one of your orifices, you have to be sure to first travel to a back alley also, it’s not effective at home in your bathroom with the heater on.
they don’t wanna be told what they can do or where they can do it or by whom.
That’s awesome, no one wants to be told what to do, that makes sense then. This probably means these people are largely bound to become or at least try to become small business owners and self employed. That gives me hope for this country, reversing the trends.
When you can’t handle anyone else telling you what to do, that’s when you know you can only work for yourself. I’ve been there too and I know the sentiment. I’m so glad these people want to take the reigns of responsibility and risk into their own hands.
👏
Those states banning abortion already have the highest childhood poverty rates, the highest teenage abortion rates, and most meth addicts. The problem just got a whole lot worse
Yeah, the “pro-life” crowd is seriously mis-named. They are simply the pro-fetus crowd — once born they don’t give a flying fuck about what happens to the baby or the mother.
Life begins at conception and ends at birth.
Old saw, but still holds true for the “pro-lifers.
source ?
The point continually ignored by anti abortionists is that making an abortion illegal doesn’t stop them. Never has in all of history and never will. It just means safe abortions disappears. The old ways of toxic substances, poisonous herbs herbs and unsanitary coat hangers become what’s left. Along with misusing over the counter or internet feticides with news worthy results of damaged babies and dead mothers.
Anti abortionists have now surrendered any control over abortions.
Ha you went from anti vaxxer to anti abortionist. Very general term. I am pro choice with limits. Many people think like me. Also, the scotus did NOT ban abortions, keep that in mind.
It’s not all about you and what you think. For some, removing that Federal right is exactly that- an outright, full spectrum government ban. The Supreme Court did not say some abortions or under certain circumstances. They said there is no right, no level of Federal protection to stop extremist views. Women are going to die from this. Women who didn’t want an abortion but needed it as a medical necessity. They are going to be refused medical care in the name of abortion bans.
“But disaster struck soon after the couple from Washington arrived on the Mediterranean island, they told Insider. Andrea’s water broke, and her placenta started detaching at just 16 weeks. Her pregnancy was no longer viable.
But the traumatic experience became life-threatening due to Malta’s ban on abortion. ”
https://www.businessinsider.com/woman-denied-life-saving-abortion-is-hellscape-of-roe-v-wade-repeal-2022-6
In places where there is no protection from anti abortion fanatics, someone’s opinion about anything that could possibly damage a foetus is enough.
” One such case, in El Salvador, which has one of the strictest abortion bans in the world, has gone all the way to the Inter-American Court of Human Rights, where a ruling is expected by the end of this year. Manuela, a 33-year-old woman who went to hospital to seek treatment after a miscarriage, was sentenced to 30 years in prison for homicide. She died in jail in 2010.”
“According to a 2012 survey, about 6% of American pregnant women admit to using illicit drugs, while 8.5% drink alcohol and 16% smoke cigarettes.” If she does any of these things, someone somewhere will consider that to be a chargable abortion. “At the root of these cases is the idea that women, once they become a mother, should put their foetus first no matter what, said Emma Milne, a legal scholar of gender and crime who teaches at Durham University in the UK.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59214544
Savita Halappanavar’s death in Ireland as well. It was so awful that Ireland repealed the constitutional ban on abortion.
Just last week some judge in Brazil would not allow an 11 y/o rape victim to get an abortion. ELEVEN years old.
I noticed that too, Auntie O just loves
that anti crap.
I’m going to start calling her Anti Nooo
In other words, you’ll call her “yes”.
I’m sure she won’t be bothered one bit.
5 stars on yelp
Holding up home made, and PP produced signs at a county courthouse has no effect other than to make the participants feel good about themselves. BTW, abortion is still legal in California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, the hysteria skips over the legalities in favor of mass emotion.
How dare they care about women not living in California. Strange that anti abortionist protest away at planned parenhood offices throughout California where abortion is legal. Do you trivialize them too?
👇 James Woods Truth Bomb 💥
When you have 90 percent of what you want, think twice before insisting on the other 10 percent.
~ Thomas Sowell
Please read the Kagan, Soto Mayor, Breyer dissent
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/24/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-breyer-sotomayor-kegan
I’d say our democracy died yesterday, but the DNC did that back in 2016. What we’re seeing here is the result of forty years of concentrated corruption on both sides of the aisle with Republicans leading the charge against human rights and the Democrats wringing their hands as they seek a compromise.
Compromise never works when dealing with fanatics of any stripe and in spite of Democrats lifting the glass ceiling for a select few, they’ve always been happy to throw anyone without a seven digit+ annual income under the bus.
I read a headline today calling the GOP “The dog who caught the car”. I assure you this is just the first wave of attacks on human rights and dignity by those who’ve been working diligently to reduce the US to what Germany was in 1936.
Sadly, they’re winning.
I’m just glad my Pop’s not here to see the country he fought fascism for becoming everything he put his life on the line to fight against.
True the authoritarian leftists mean to impose total control over our lives ostensibly to “save the country”.
Midterms are our last hope
I trust neither party any more.Tthey are liars and manipulators serving their mega-wealthy backers. But I hold out hope that there may be people of good quality from either side of the aisle who might step up. Never expected Liz Cheney to step up and embrace truth and transparency for instance. But yeah- good on her. I have friends from all sides of the political spectrum who hold good morals and values. We can debate and argue but we are stuck together in these uncertain times. I’d rather talk about chainsaws or solving problems than political posturing any day. I won’t play into their bullshit or let it make me dislike my neighbor…I was taught that this is what it means to be American from the WWII vets- all races, all viewpoints at the table makes us stronger and makes us free. And I will not vote on party lines or gender lines or color lines…I want the best person for each job!
The “authoritarian leftists” never once sought to force anyone to have an abortion nor to keep a pregnancy against someone’s will. That is not authoritarian anything. That designation applies to those who use government to do that- i.e. The Authoritarn Eighties.
I think the arguments a lot of abortion supporters try to make would make a lot more sense if they were about the right to sterilize your self by your own choosing. If you are so against a cause and effect reaction, a known chain reaction, or an if this then that scenario, maybe those people should really consider sterilizing themselves. Otherwise they just seem selfish and irresponsible and spiteful of their own biology and natural functions. If you sterilize yourself there is no debate and killing, there is no conception to kill off. Many problems arise in life and get worse when people are set on unrealistic expectations and results. One unrealistic expectation is that you can reap the pleasures of life without the tertiary work and associated effects and functions.
Birth control pills mess with a woman’s hormones, because they are high levels of hormones in a pill form. If you want things that go against logic, you will bring about other problems. The cycle gets worse as each step tries to be compensated for by coming up with another ‘fix’ instead of going back to the source and cause for what is not healthy.
It is very rarely ALLOWED for a young woman, especially without children, to be sterilized.
It’s not just young women, locally you can’t get a vasectomy very easily because St. Joe’s prohibits it and they control the vast majority of local health care providers.
Even in places where you can, it’s frequently rejected for young males without kids because “you might want kids in the future“.
The opposite of not protecting abortion/ making abortion illegal is NOT Roe v Wade.
RvW was the MIDDLE GROUND.
Allowing choice.
The opposite of not protecting abortion/making it illegal is TERMINATING ALL PREGNANCIES.
That is extremism.
The opposite ends of the middle ground.
RvW/ choice IS THE MIDDLE GROUND.
Anyone here arguing for the dismantling of RvW IS AN EXTREMIST.
The opposite of not protecting abortion/ making abortion illegal is NOT Roe v Wade.
RvW was the MIDDLE GROUND.
Allowing choice.
The opposite of not protecting abortion/making it illegal is TERMINATING ALL PREGNANCIES.
That is extremism. And no pro choicer is making that arguement.
The opposite ends of the middle ground.
RvW/ choice IS THE MIDDLE GROUND.
Anyone here arguing for the dismantling of RvW IS AN EXTREMIST.
All I see is a bunch of angry confused women, who did not realize what sex is really about. They probably got pregnant when they were young, killed there unborn babies, now don’t know how to deal with the grief of what they have done, so they have to tell themselves a bunch of lies about how it wasn’t a child or make up excuses in their minds for why what they did was acceptable. Its very sad. I also see alot of women who are immature, do not make good mothers, are not responsible people and are unfit for being mothers. As for the men, i see alot of looser guys who would not make good fathers and are too immature to support a women much less any children.
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the unaddressed grief that must find harbor in the hearts of the poor women who have chosen to kill their children out of inconvenience….
How dare they not be inconvenienced at your direction. How dare they want not to risk their livelihoods, health, future because you demand they do.
Yeah right, Bozo.
First of all, f*ck off with your assumptions. I am not confused nor have I ever had an abortion, and I feel I can speak for a lot of women in that regard. All we want is our previously granted right as an American citizen to safe medical procedures, if we so choose.
Second, please tell me more about what YOU think women should think sex is really about, “Jack” ………….
Love and procreating
Sex is not a right.
I know what you wrote is no joke. These women actually go on to hurt people and are spreading the ideology that a person is not responsible for the results of their actions and there is always an easy way out. Some of them do go on to eventually have kids. Don’t have kids with a women who thinks like them, I’m sorry to say. They hurt the fathers later and only see their own life as worthy of making considerations. All I wanted was to raise my kids right but women like these act without logic and cause problems, maybe, from my limited experience. People like these are also susceptible to wanting to indoctrinate their own kids with un-examined ideologies that are about group think and loss of family strength and autonomy and unity. These kinds of women can become a physical trap where you a trapped between doing what is best for your child and what you are allowed to do based on what the government is telling them is the latest thing to think.
Mmm, them some sage sausage-party words and sword slaps right there.
You’re right but I’m not bothered.
Very moses.
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Okay none of that stuff would have happened to me if my dick wasn’t so small. There I said it god damn it. Are you happy. I’m beyond moses you shithead.
And worse yet, if my dick wasn’t so small, the condom would have simply stayed on and I wouldn’t have any of that to complain about.
Bravo bravo
I see a lot of presumption about other people based on nothing other than a rather depauperate imagination.
It’s hard to support people you don’t respect.
The Democrats must be thrilled at the Supreme Court at the moment. They were set to lose much at the next election due to inflation, gas prices, city crime, etc. Then along comes the Supreme Court to eliminate a legal right and Trump crows about successfully fulfilling his campaign promises and many States legislaters get caught being responsible for abortion laws they passed to restrict abortion only with the expectation it would never happen. Talk about changing the odds in one fell swoop. Suddenly from whiny sure losers,the Democrats get on the right of a popular issue. Way to go, Supreme Court.
Then it’s good news? Good for you!
Don’t be silly. That misses the point that it is not personal. Most who has a differing opinion with the current direction of Democrat politics must be appalled. The Supreme Court has just changed the team members. Now people who might have found some common ground with conservatives have to decide how important all those other issues are in the face of finding themselves aligned with anti abortionists. It was hard enough for most people finding enough common ground with a party filled with anti vaxxers and conspiracists and gun clingers. Too bad, so sad but the line has been drawn to the right of most Americans and they de facto find themselves aligned with Democrats.
If they’ve got majority public support then Dems will sweep midterms
you could make a living predicting human nature
All the morons arguing about bodily autonomy during vaccine mandate period are nowhere to be seen. That fool who goes by Strawberry, who lead that movement in Arcata definitely wasnt carrying signs on the plaza today. So much for caring when it’s not about yourself…
Please let’s get with the program. Birthing people is the proper term for people that can produce crotch droppings.
Only 6 other countries in the world allowed on demand abortions as late as the US yesterday including China and North Korea. Online abortion pills are available nationwide, no change to abortion access from Roe decision for the majority of Americans
Texas already had the most restrictive abortion laws in the U.S. — and they just got tougher. On Wednesday, a new law took effect that adds penalties of jail time and a fine of up to $10,000 for anyone who prescribes pills for medication abortions through telehealth or the mail.
And I am sure other states are working on similar laws..
So this was before Roe decision?
Yup. The change is that law is no longer able to be challenged, which it had been, by the Federal government.
What nonsense. “In the past, virtually universal access to contraception and abortion for its citizens by a national government service was a common way for China to contain its population in accordance with its now-defunct one-child policy.[11] It was scaled back when the policy was removed in 2015 in favor of a two-child policy and in turn was replaced by a three-child policy.[12]” China treats women as baby factories- encouraging abortion when the Party worried about overpopulation, banning it when the population retracted. Allat the whim of the Communist Party. So now it is to be at the whim of the State in the US as if the women’s uteruses here have become owned by the State and not the women at all. Congratulations on the political alignment with the PRC.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_China
The Bidenflation thing, that’s all Joe’s fault. Roe decision…
Donald Trump did that!
Yep, for someone who’s prolly ordered up gobs of abortions he carried nutter-water on this one. Why, I hear loud hymnals in town right now, however unintelligible the singing in tongues.
The best thing to come out of this is that the protesters are outdoors having fun and enjoying that warm California sun.
You might never know who you are standing next to at the store, until you see them holding a sign that makes no sense.
covid spreading event. I see the same woman out there protesting , is the same woman that was protesting covid vaccines earlier.
Seems the jab has been lowering the sperm count, so maybe abortions won’t be such a big deal after all.
Stop.
Don’t kid yourself, and if you have daughters, you should care. Or granddaughters. They should have a right to terminate what might be causing them harm.(look up ectopic pregnancy)
And for the love of biology, please read up on ectopic pregnancies. also, on when and where a fetus starts to actually feel pain. No one is just doing abortions, at a viable age, for no real reason.
Late term abortion stories are propaganda. Okay, I mean the ones that are supposedly done at the whim of the woman. When they truly do happen, it’s for serious reasons. You KNOW THAT.
ugh. It’s like I’m talking to a boomer who is stuck in his 10 year old body and mind set. Please, Lone Ranger stop acting like an old man.
Hot coffee I thought I was replying to Lone Ranger
sorry about that rant. He does inspire me.
lol I didn’t get that memo
Wow- so Hilary Clinton being so sure of herself and kicking Bernie in the balls so she could somehow lose her sure election to Trump is now bearing actual bitter fruit for all women?! Wow- who could have seen that coming? Thank Hilary Clinton and her campaign managers for all of this. We knew from the moment that Trump beat her that this day would come- it’s zero surprise. And to think- all she had to do was respectfully debate with Bernie and his supporters instead of driving them all away…Enjoy all that is starting to arrive you Hilaridiots!!
WASHINGTON, June 25 (Reuters) – President Joe Biden’s administration indicated it will seek to prevent states from banning a pill used for medication abortion in light of the Supreme Court ruling overturning the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling, signaling a major new legal fight.
The administration could argue in court that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) approval of mifepristone, one of the pills used for medication abortions, pre-empts state restrictions, meaning federal authority outweighs any state action
Yes, the FDA has approved it, but someone has to prescribe it. And the user needs to seek a prescription for it.
So many hurdles to jump through and Merrick Garland is saying that …”the states can’t do this and the states can’t do that…blah blah blah…DOJ says…derp derp derp…”
Mitch McConnell did the whole country a favor by not letting Garland get a confirmation hearing. Garland is a self-deluded simpleton!
True that, Garland’s non-stop partisan behavior as AG demonstrates he was never competent to be a Justice
He is very competent for those he serves
Roe vs Wade decision……..
The decision is not legally legitimate. It is part of a far-right political conspiracy. It is the latest in a long train of reactionary decisions legitimizing state surveillance, police violence, mass deportations and corporate domination of the electoral system. It was issued by a court that does not constitute a democratic branch of government but a battering ram for medieval clericalism and bigotry.
The court is now dominated by fascistic ideologues. Three of the justices voting with the majority in Dobbs (Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett) were appointed by Donald Trump, the would-be dictator who conspired with two of the justices (Alito and Thomas) to orchestrate a coup attempt on January 6, 2021, seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and establish a dictatorship.
Dobbs is the judicial continuation of Trump’s coup attempt. It is being wildly celebrated by the far-right across the country, which views it as a testament to their power and prospects for the future.
Eric London
WSWS
Go read Freakanomics or use logic.
In Chapter 4, called “Where Have All the Criminals Gone?”, Levitt expands on the crime and abortion correlation previously discussed in the book’s introduction. He starts with a case study on Romania. When Nicolae Ceausescu became the communist dictator of Romania, he made abortion illegal. The aim was to boost Romania’s population in order to strengthen the nation. Before that point, abortion rates were high in Romania, with four abortions for every live birth.
Within one year of the abortion ban, the Romanian birth rate had doubled. These children born after the abortion ban would lead especially miserable lives, less successful in school and in the workforce on average than children born before them. They were also likely to become criminals. The abortion ban continued until Ceausescu lost his grip on Romania, when in 1989 he was captured and killed by protestors largely consisting of the youth of Romania—the ones who would not have been born, had he not instated the abortion ban.
I can tell there were many deep thinkers out there at the protest when I scroll briefly through the pictures and the first one I read says ‘Don’t Like Abortions, Get A Vasectomy’. I would equate that to something like ‘Don’t Like Drunk Drivers, Go Drink Yourself to Death!”
Thanks for providing clear evidence that not everyone is a deep thinker.
I hope to have sex one day. I don’t even know what to think about this stuff that people get so worked up about. Is it really a big deal? All I see is people who must be having sex so I’m actually kind of jealous of these people that they even get to have sex. I don’t know what to think about the maybe having kids part though. That sounds like a lot to deal with. But I hear sex is awesome. Fingers crossed that my day comes. I try to practice so I’m ready if it happens.
If I hit a pedestrian with my car, should I stay and wait for the cops and face the punishment of potential manslaughter charges. No, absolutely not, especially if I’m on my way home from having an abortion. Can you imagine how traumatic it would be to go to court and potentially jail? It would be already bad enough that i’d be facing massive vehicle repair bills if I even know where to get the work done and all the inconvenience such would cause for at least a few weeks. The police need to understand that the accident was bad enough, I just can’t deal with any more than that. Sorry folks, I just can’t. RIP post man. (Sorry, I mean mail carrier, I mean postal worker, I mean nice thing who I don’t want to describe too much because it’s not nice to ‘they’.)
As someone who tries to help out by running a needle exchange program and passing out new syringes, I’m starting to think there is a need for coat hangers now. I might order some boxes and try to drive by the next protest to hand them out.