‘Toxic’ Coal Train Application Tossed
![The Grand Canyon of the Eel River, from Dos Rios to the Humboldt Redwoods, is the most rugged landscape within the 196-mile Eel River system. [Photo from Staff / The Wildlands Conservancy]](https://kymkemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/twc_grand-canyon-of-the-eel-river_15.jpg)
The former railroad traced a path up the “Grand Canyon of the Eel River,” from Dos Rios to the Humboldt Redwoods, is the most rugged landscape within the 196-mile Eel River system. [Photo from Staff / The Wildlands Conservancy]
North Coast Senator Mike McGuire, a backer of the competing Great Redwood Trail project, just tweeted, “The Federal Surface Transportation Board has just tossed out the Toxic Coal Train’s application!…The North Coast has always known this dangerous project was dead on arrival
, and today the Surface [Transportation] Board confirmed it… .”
He added, “The best is yet to come with the Great Redwood Trail. We’re beyond thrilled to kick off the Trail Master Plan in the coming few months and we look forward to moving this once-in-a-generation project forward. It’s full steam ahead!”
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Outstanding!!!
Well, they might as well use the canyon, since there’s no water in the damn river anyway…
As for coal and diesel, there would be no “Trump Towers” or New York at all, without this stuff…
Even back when trains burned wood, we were searching for faster ways to pollute the air and pillage the planet, and the lust for gold and silver built Huntington Beach and the rest of the L.A.Wasteland…
Faster and in stupider places, speaking in planetary time, like West of Redway, where water has to be trucked in, along with Diesel for the “underground generators”…
It’s no fun to live near Briceland Road in Summer, as the water trucks come down the hill, one after the other, engine brakes burbling…
How much is a truckload of water anyway?
In “impoverished SoHum” there’s yet another rip-off Mateel event, this year being held in Mendocino County by my least favorite “non-profit organization”…
I’m glad the “Coal Train” is put away for another session, and next year, I hope Governor McGuire comes up with a less idiotic plan, among his yearly idiotic proposals, which is what he tends to specialize in…
Apparently they used fraudulent bank statements to support their bid.
Must be related to 45. Kidding aside, is wonderful news!
And it was also late.
I hope they tossed the application into a paper shredder!
As long as humans keep burning stuff to do stuff, like wood for heat, gas for cars, dung to cook and coal to generate electricity, the climate will continue to degrade.
Coal is filthy stuff, and China burns more than anyone else, but Humboldt “Diesel Grows” should be bombed with phosphorus, and, Diesel Pickups should be completely illegal to possess…
This stupid and senseless idea was poorly conceived by one of the worst politicians in CA, who will undoubtedly end up Governor, and then President…
Yep, ban those diesel trucks fruit eater, then, like pulling your lip over your head and swallowing, there will be no more fresh foods and supplies delivered to us!
TRUCKATARIANS, ARE WE NOW?
UNLESS YOU GROW ALL YOUR FOOD, KNIT YOUR KNICKERS, YOUR LIFE IS CARRIED BY TRUCKERS WHO BURN DIESEL
STFU WITH YOUR IGNORANCE.
Diesel pickups delivered my food?
Careful with that word, “ignorant”…
Anybody growing marijuana under diesel powered lights, should have to pay extra tax, like, $25/gallon, and, their farms should be “mitigated” when destroyed, by pouring concrete all over the entire operation….
How much does it cost, in environmental degradation, diesel fuel, trucked-in water, and setup, to grow dope this way?
Why not just grow poppies and cook up some nice heroin instead?
I know you don’t care about the irreparable harm you are doing to your planet, and I am certain that you can justify it all through some magical thought process, since you are just “feeding your family”, but reasonable processes, like growing weed in soil using sunlight and ambient water, and unreasonable processes like mining coal and transporting it long distances by burning diesel, comprise concerns of rational people, especially those of us who no longer have to work but still vote…
Communist China, India and Russia burn more coal than the rest of the world combined.
We burn coal all winter, go get it on National forest land, very easy to harvest, keeps us warm, and lasts overnight. Simple to start, light a plie of coal dust, put some big chunks in, and off it goes.
Hey Mcguire, the Chinese harvest coal with the most polluting equipment on earth. They are building many coal fired electric generators per year. Then, they burn thousands of tons per day to make the electricity to produce those piece of shit Teslas. They mine millions of tons of rare earth ore to make the unreliable batteries, at the expense of the forests over there. Hey Mcquire, did you know that? I’m sure you do, but you are on the Commie Chinese Party pay role, like your buddy who got busted with his pants down spying for them. Coal is responsible for much, more than 50%, of our electricity. All “green” energy only counts for less than 3% And it is not green. Enviromentalists hurt all of us, they spew bullshit about coal and other fossil fuel. But we have You Tube, and we can now make our own diesel from coal. Hey Mcguire, you are a liar.
You realize no one will listen right? The enviro nazis are so brainwashed when you try to use logic and point out facts that does not support their position the throw a dot like a child.
Fact is generationg electricity is the number one polluter in the US. That does not matter because when they.get in their electric car they don’t see smoke coming out of their car. Never mind the pollution of dead battries and environmental disaster of mining the metals.for said battries. Nope these udiots think their food comes from the grocriw.store not farms and ranches.
Your name is a good as your thought process.
You are confused, it is Rex Bohn that cashed in his communist Chinese pay check from Lee and Man.
https://www.leemanpaper.com/leeman/outbreak1/eng_index.html
Chesterton, you’re not even close. Coal accounts for 22% of US electricity generation. About the same as renewables at 20%.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us.php
Please forgive me for busting the renewable bubble….but burning biomass is extremely nasty, yet considered renewable. So fuck your battery laden prius, can you fit a sheet of plywood in there?
Yeah! What you said. Smart, cuz we have You Tube”. Crack me up.
Take a pill. No prius, agree on biomass, and if I could afford a sheet of plywood I could fit it in my full bed Silverado. Just saying the coal statistic is total bull. BTW in their breakdown of renewables, biomass was only 1.3% (of 20%).
I just love us truckararians.
At least he is not dumber than a doug fir.
Spot on…
Great news, now we just need to ensure that the dangerous off shore wind farm proposal gets crushed like the on shore proposal was a few years back. This decision should send a strong message that we as a county won’t rest until all avenues to bring economic prosperity, independence and success to the region and its residents are completely blocked. The fact that this opportunity – which could have served as a bridge to using the railroad for tourism, long distance public rail transit and sustainable cargo transport through Humboldt Bay – got as close as it did to becoming reality makes me shudder.
This is very good news.
Diesel powered vehicles are gross polluters.
Oh thank God. I was afraid someone might bring some good paying long term jobs to Humboldt. Now off to the welfare office to get my check.
We can stop using fossil juice and other stuff that screws up the environment tomorrow, if the people that want to do that can think of a way to do it without killing most of us.
The people that burn the most fuel the longest will rule the world. The greenies need to come up with a way to convert to whatever, while allowing this country to grow and prosper or sit down and shut the fuck up.
It’s going to take a balls to the wall capitalist, with our best interests in mind to pull that off.
Take the insurrectionist destroyers out of power, let capitalism do it’s thing and we can be independent and free.
The greenies have good ideas but don’t have a clue how to accomplish the goal without doing more harm than good, mainly because many are haters. They don’t care if their grandchildren speak Chinese and grovel at the feet of the party that’s pulling Bidens’ strings. I do.
We need something on the order of the Manhattan project. Everybody pays, everybody wins.
Feel free to ask for more advice if needed, ’cause I’m full of it up to here.
I agree, we need the govt to get behind renewables because it’s not as profitable as the old fuel source.we need to move forward, it’s the way of the world.
As for the ‘coal train’- it was never going to happen anyway. Red herring to get people behind the trail idea.
I’m not totally opposed to the trail but I like the idea of a high speed rail – someday- connecting us to the rest of the world. I’m not sure it’s smart to give up rail ROW for a trail that may be good for tourism, but also might turn into a homeless haven if not handled properly.
Take the time to read what the 1983 railbanking legislation created. You might find yourself onboard.
Our government screws up anything it touches. Go with the private sector…
You are full of something up to wherever, that’s true.
Environmental policies that tax traditional energy, before new alternatives are developed to effective and practical outputs, is not only incredibly dangerous and expensive for the working class, but may collapse modern society, at the rate things are going now. I won’t be surprised when the push for zero emissions leads to people burning furniture to keep from freezing.
Wonder if we cover that 10% of large bodies of water we could see a change in both electricity and water evaporation rate. Have you ever been beneath a solar array on a 100*f day and felt the polysilicon radiation effect. We need things like wind and air transfer hydro to produce a large hunk of electricity. If we don’t want large fans on the horizon or large tanks above and below ground on the south slope than we need the areas that do want it to produce hydrogen to power our electric plants,cars,and cooking. Isn’t it funny how Tesla’s are green and the old lifted Chevy is a lump of coal with one recycled over many years and the other spewing more and more pollution to be made and maintained, go look up lithium mining and see the environmental damage done with strip mining and settling ponds and it’s funny we’ve gone through PSPS and yet within my community there’s a dozen new charging stations going into Safeway alone. We need to step away from being a throw away society of last year’s phone and fashion and shiny new objects ever 4 years in our driveways, our old hippie friends wore till patches made up to much drove it till it couldn’t be fixed and used what was left to fix or improve the next one and build things on the Farm; further more they didn’t grow super weed full of high nitrogen feed in pvc and plastic green houses and yet their weed did help those in need as simple joints, tincture, butter not some bag of candy or ethically produced chocolate bar shipped in from halfway around the world to be melted into gods gift to the stoner.
In the first place I can’t even fathom how they would even begin to repair any of the track in Mendocino County alone 😂
Not to mention constant maintenance. Soft ground and numerous earthquakes of North Coast makes driving 900,000 ton trains around a dodgy proposition. The cargo would have to be extremely profitable for it to make sense economically.
We are ending coal reliance, and our energy costs are skyrocketing, but that’s ok we need to sacrifice our livelyhoods down a few notches, like a new third world country, but that’s ok, because india and china have ramped up their coal production that actually exceeds what the U.S. has ever produced!
If everyone jumped off a bridge, would you?
Energy costs are skyrocketing due to greed, but the powers at be would rather you pick a side and fight a fake battle in thinking it’s something else.
Look deeper than the news, reach out to actual people in India and you will hear differently.
Population of the US – 331,893,745. Current population of India 1,406,124,960. Current population of China 1,450,053,884. As you can see, both India and China are at least 4 times larger than the US population wise. India’s population is expected to grow by 350,000,000 this year making it the fastest growing country in the world. China’s population only is expected to grow by 196,000,000 this year.
“With less than 5 percent of world population, the U.S. uses one-third of the world’s paper, a quarter of the world’s oil, 23 percent of the coal, 27 percent of the aluminum, and 19 percent of the copper,” he reports. “Our per capita use of energy, metals, minerals, forest products, fish, grains, meat, and even fresh water dwarfs that of people living in the developing world.”
He adds that the U.S. ranks highest in most consumer categories by a considerable margin, even among industrial nations. To wit, American fossil fuel consumption is double that of the average resident of Great Britain and two and a half times that of the average Japanese. Meanwhile, Americans account for only five percent of the world’s population but create half of the globe’s solid waste.
Cranial-rectal inversion does no good. It doesn’t change the facts.
It’s difficult to assess whether the child is to be reprimanded, or the parent when it comes to behavior in response to stimulus.
The family unit or the individual is only able to engage in commerce as the corporation sees fit to produce, market, goods and services based on the supply and demand model.
The problem is simply in the pursuit of profit for shareholders, with very little regulation.
Single use containers and disposable packaging and lack of real education about how damaging the new model of living is for the planet.
So yeah, the guys who have gotten filthy fucking rich selling you shit you probably could live without..
Now think that they are in the position to dictate a radical shift in the way we conduct our lives.
Theu are most definitely, killing you softly.
Don’t worry the government will fix everything for us. Lol
Fact is, if you’ve got it, a truck brought it…
I am comforted to know that I can get 196 kinds of rubber dog shit at Target, choose from 500 kinds of shampoo, that one could always choose from 7000 kinds of bra, and, that plenty of 32%THC weed is available…
If I had another 70 years to hang around, I would start flipping houses and owning shit, like the 140 car-washes that Shaq has, and like my neighbor, who won’t own rentals but who owns “Storage Garages”…
Also, I would get a Government Job for at least 30 years, so I would receive an inflated pension, like my brother the underpaid school teacher who receives $70,000/year from his pension, and healthcare insurance for life, while I get $30,000/year from Social Security and have to pay $350/month for my “free” Medicare…
You can be a Coal Miner, you can be a builder of train tracks to nowhere, you could easily be about as smart as Mike McGuire, but Truck Drivers, these days, were mostly born in Mexico…
As for the 3 Billion Chinese and Indian Citizens, India and China are taking over, one business at a time, one house at a time, and 1 farm at a time…
The reason why weeds take over a fallow field, is because they flourish by extreme propagation…
I am glad I lived in the “Golden Age of Personal Transportation” and my favorite car ever, was the Plymouth Road Runner, which got about 8 MPG, and cost $2500 new.
Burning Coal and Diesel will eventually make California uninhabitable, but I will be gone, and Eureka will be underwater.
“Burning Coal and Diesel will eventually make California uninhabitable, but I will be gone, and Eureka will be underwater.”
Not true except for the part about you being gone.
In the last century, the sea level rose somewhere between 6″ to 8″. Ca. has an average altitude of 2900 feet, sea is never going to cover Ca. Eureka will move slightly away from sea as necessary, it has handled the 6″ to 8″ rise in the last 100 years with no problem.
Doubling co2 causes 1° temperature rise, so the impact of each co2 ppm increase is rapidly declining.
For example, co2 going from 100 ppm to 200 ppm = same effect as co2 going from 200 ppm to 400 ppm = same effect as co2 going from 400 ppm to 800 ppm. The temperature rise effect of co2 is logarithmic since co2 growth is linear.
Another way of looking at this is that co2 has to increase exponentially to make temperature increase linearly.
Increasing co2 has made earth about 10% greener since 1980 per NASA satellite photos. This is a very good thing.
USA is never going to an all windmill and solar panel powered grid cuz:
It would take vast amounts of land to make that happen
It would be a completely unreliable power grid
It would destroy our economy cuz of extreme expense
It would make us totally reliant on China, our #1 geopolitical enemy
It would create vast amounts of toxic waste from discarded solar panels and windmill blades and car batteries.
Key word: Developing
Watch planet of the humans. Many of the figures particularly about population are disingenuous China has huge demographic collapse looming and India is going towards 1/1 replacement in a short period. I don’t use more fossil fuels or resources than people in the 3rd world. I see the wealth and opulence and agree it happens but our country is ripe for a fall. Your consumption figures are decades old as well.
Once the Republicans run the train on democracy, then they can have their coal train..
As a long distance hiker and backpacker, i am thrilled the Great Redwood Trail will happen. Its going to be a world class epic hike!
I wonder what they even mean by “trail”?
Is it to be paved?
Existing trails all over the US are poorly maintained if at all.
It’s a nice idea, but very naive considering our current national and economic predicament.
The maintenance costs could be significant, and how to police it when local us it for a dirt bike trail?
It seems like a Marin county idea in a remote area that needs more than just international tourism to stay viable.
I’m not against the idea, but funding for maintenance needs to be attached to the project through legislation etc..
You can go hike it now. Why do you need the government to tell you that you are allowed. Public lands are for public use go use them and even if the train was running would one train every few days ruin the experience. I don’t believe so. What about the people who live where you travel for recreation. Why can’t they use the resources of the land to provide for themselves and their families. Why does your recreation take precedence over their jobs.
Ohhh when you get to Alderpoint and possibly visit the store keep your views about putting people out of work to yourself. The entire towns economy collapsed when the Louisiana Pacific mill closed. The current town is what is left. They hate people who think and talk like you because similar people destroyed their livelihoods before.
Way back when I used to have to study and cram for a test, and later dream about being naked at, Coltrane was the least toxic thing I could listen to without having to read a paragraph two or three times just to comprehend it. The application of the needle into the sweet grooves of vinyl was a meditation in itself. Without this never toxic Coltrane application, I would toss and turn all night worrying the dream of the test was true.
Liberal fear mongering at it’s best…There’s absolutely nothing toxic about a train load of Coal.
Coal is needed because new green technologies are not ready yet. The jobs that would have been created would have paid taxes and given working people jobs. The alternative this trail spends tax dollars to create jobs and also creates a self perpetuating bureaucracy that will grow like cancer. Absorbing private property and enterprise and in turn creating more bureaucracy. Our government is as dumb as the retards in idiocracy. Everybody knows crops need Gatorade it has electrolytes!!!
This thing is absolute baloney.. There are plenty of ports available to ship coal to China.. The first rule is to follow the money.. The only money here is McGuire’s Trail bux, public money.. Our money…. The domestic trail is fine but the trail up Eel River Canyon is a nightmare.. A huge amount of public money will be needed to construct it.. No toilet facilities.. No constructed campsites with fire protection.. The ranchers can easily see the huge fires resulting from city folks trying to make coffee and cook breakfast.. There is absolutely no way to prevent fires from the trail and McGuire knows that.. Secondly, the trail will involve at least 100 Native Village sites suddenly opened to artifact hunters.. Rock art sites opened to vandalism.. Mc Guire also knows that.. He sure isn’t talking about it but says the problems will be addressed in the future.. “It will be a long process..” That “process” will cost money all the way and that is the aspect McGuire is promoting.. Not hundreds, but thousands of Native people were murdered on the course of the trail.. Only 150 years ago.. Stephen Fleming’s Old property in right on the trail.. He likely led the Indian Island Massacre.. He lined the path to his cabin with Indian skulls.. So recently that I actually knew his daughter in law.. The Eel River Canyon aspect of the trail should be abandoned immediately before more of our money is spent on this destructive project..
China has close to 50 Mag-lev trains & can build hospitals in a week.