California’s Latest Statewide COVID-19 Information

California COVIDPress release from the California Department of Public Health (CDPH):

Today, the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) released the most recent statistics on COVID-19 and updates on the state’s pandemic response. The most up to date data is available on the state’s COVID-19 data dashboard.

Statewide COVID-19 Data

Rates of cases, hospitalizations and deaths are highest among unvaccinated individuals and lowest among boosted individuals.California Covid stats This is true for all age groups. See additional data for unvaccinated and vaccinated cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

Vaccinations

  • 76,821,177 total vaccines administered.
  • 83.7% of the eligible population (5+) has been vaccinated with at least one dose.
  • 46,090 people a day are receiving COVID-19 vaccination (average daily dose count over 7 days).

 

Cases

  • California has 9,106,031 confirmed cases to date.
  • Today’s average case count is 13,903 (average daily case count over 7 days).
  • Unvaccinated people are 5.0 times more likely to get COVID-19 than boosted individuals (May 16, 2022 – May 22, 2022).

 

Testing

  • The testing positivity rate is 8.6% (average rate over 7 days).

Hospitalizations

  • There are 2,687 hospitalizations statewide.
  • There are 294 ICU patients statewide.
  • Unvaccinated people are 7.4 times more likely to be hospitalized than boosted individuals (May 16, 2022 – May 22, 2022).

 

Deaths

  • There have been 91,006 COVID-19 deaths since the start of the pandemic.
  • COVID-19 claims the lives of 14 Californians each day (average daily death count over 7 days).
  • Unvaccinated people are 8.2 times more likely to die than boosted individuals (May 9, 2022 – May 15, 2022).

 

ADDITIONAL UPDATES

 

Slow the Spread: Get Vaccinated and Boosted for COVID-19

The risk for COVID-19 exposure and infection continues as a number of Californians remain unvaccinated and unboosted.

Real-world evidence continues to show that the vaccine is preventing severe illness, hospitalization, and death. Public health officials urge Californians to get vaccinated and boosted as soon as possible.

It is recommended that every individual over the age of 5 receive their primary COVID-19 vaccine series and booster dose.

Find a vaccine near you by visiting myturn.ca.gov or calling 1-833-422-4255. The consent of a parent or legal guardian may be needed for those under age 18 to receive a vaccination. Visit Vaccinate All 58 to learn more about the safe and effective vaccines available for all Californians 5+.

Your Actions Save Lives

Protect yourself, family, friends and your community by following these prevention measures:

  • Sign-Up for COVID-19 Policy Alerts: COVID-19 Policy Alerts provide up-to-date information regarding CDPH COVID-19 guidance and policy

    , including changes to orders, mandatory guidance and more. Registrants will receive prompt email alerts to updated guidance and policy available on our website as well as accompanying translations. Sign-up for the COVID-19 Policy Alerts emails today.

  • Wear A Mask When Recommended or Required: Under California’s mask guidance, masks are strongly recommended for all individuals in most indoor settings. Masks are required for everyone in high transmission settings like emergency shelters, health care settings, correctional facilities, homeless shelters and long-term care facilities. Local jurisdictions may have additional requirements beyond the state requirements based on local conditions.
  • Upgrade Your Mask: Good fit and filtration continue to be the best way to get the most out of your mask. The best masks for preventing COVID-19 include the N95, KN95 and KF94. If you don’t have access to one of these masks, wear a surgical mask or a surgical mask with a cloth mask on top. If you choose a fabric mask, opt for one with three or more cloth layers. No matter what kind of mask you wear, check the fit by avoiding gaps above the nose or on the sides.
  • Isolation and Quarantine Guidance: CDPH updated its Isolation and Quarantine Guidance, as of April 6, 2022. CDPH no longer recommends quarantine for individuals who are exposed to COVID-19 and have no symptoms. Additionally, CDPH added recommendations for workers in certain high-risk settings (healthcare settings, long-term care settings and shelters, among others).

 

  • My Vaccine Record is an easy way to show vaccination status at venues or businesses that require proof of vaccination. Visit myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov today to get your vaccine record.

 

  • Wash hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds.

 

  • Travel Tips: Delay travel (both domestic and international) until you are fully vaccinated. See the CDC’s full travel guidance. If you decide to travel, the state’s travel advisory recommends that all travelers arriving in California test for COVID-19 within three to five days after arrival, regardless of their vaccination status.
  • Add Your Phone to the Fight: Sign up for COVID-19 exposure notifications from CA Notify. Also, individuals who test positive for COVID-19 – including those who test at home – are able to alert others of a potential exposure more quickly and conveniently. Individuals can now initiate the notification process as soon as they are aware of their positive test result. For more information, please visit the “Notify Others” page on CA Notify.

 

  • Answer the call or text if a contact tracer from the CA COVID Team or your local health department tries to connect.

 

  • Check with your local health department about local conditions. Local health jurisdictions can implement protocols that are stricter than state guidance.

 

Tracking COVID-19 in California

Health Care Workers

  • As of June 9, local health departments have reported 163,894 confirmed positive cases in health care workers and 581 deaths statewide.

 

Testing Turnaround Time

  • The testing turnaround time dashboard reports how long California patients are waiting for COVID-19 test results. During the week of May 29 to June 4, the average time patients waited for test results was 0.8 day. During this same time period, 90% of patients received test results in one day and 98% received them within two days.

Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C)

  • As of June 6, there have been 998 cases of Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C) reported statewide. MIS-C is a rare inflammatory condition associated with COVID-19 that can damage multiple organ systems. MIS-C can require hospitalization and be life threatening.
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grey fox
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1 year ago

Once again, use caution folks. Be respectful, especially around the elderly and immune-compromised. And remember there is a still a lot of unknowns about Covid19.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Unknowns? Calm the drama.

Even a basic search on the super scrubbed pro-fauci interwebs tells you straight up “that about 81 percent of people with COVID-19 have a mild or moderate illness. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)Trusted Source, most people with mild to moderate COVID-19 can recover at home.”

And that’s with 60% of us being amorphous flesh mountains fueled on KFC and big gulps.

It’s a bad cold . Whoo. And the booster brigade has done little, to nothing to stop the vaxxed from easily getting it and spreading it. It’s not if you’re going to come down with it, it’s when. No shame. It’s ENDEMIC. People need to get over themselves.

AkbarD
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

I agree – get vaxxed, wash your hands, and go do some living.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
1 year ago
Reply to  Akbar

The “get vaxxed” part is a joke. Omicron and the 6000 variants to follow easily evade the 1.0 version of the mRNA vax. And besides, anyone who wanted it already got it, and 2 more! It’s comedy gold that people STILL think it’s their job to tell others to run out and get the low efficacy experimental injection when it’s nothing more than extra risk. Extra troubles. And low effectiveness at actually preventing infection. By all accounts we have the super-spreader vaxxed to thank for skyrocketing case rates.

Nick
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Nick
1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

William Harmon
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William Harmon
1 year ago
Reply to  Akbar

if you aren’t vaccinated, congratulate yourself for not following the herd over the cliff…

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Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  William Harmon

Of all the foolish remarks that appear here, that is one of the most egregious. “Mongolia was late to the global clamber for Covid-19 vaccines. For nearly a year officials boasted that there were no local cases. Then came an outbreak in November. Two months later, political crisis precipitated by the mishandling of the virus led to the sudden resignation of the prime minister. The prospect of continued coronavirus restrictions threatened to throw the country into further political turmoil.”

Although, despite the allegation of this commenter, there were many cases found before vaccinations became available. In fact protests about covid restrictions and people not getting treated for covid caused the Mongolian prime minister to resign in 1/21 and restrictions were relaxed. And the increase in vaccinations occurred after this, not before. The program was intiated in 3/21 but not until after 5/21, when covid cases had already spike for more than a month, was the government able to get a significant amount if the less effective Sinopharm and South in vaccines.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Mongolia

https://thediplomat.com/2021/04/mismanagement-fuels-mongolias-covid-19-spike/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/20/business/coronavirus-vaccine-mongolia.html

Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

Cmon mannnn…..errrguhugerggug…Getting a shot, which is not a vaccine, is not safeguarding you from anything as the results show. It is a cold virus which is incurable, it is endemic and changes colors like a chameleon. The vaccine for Polio is a true vaccine, developed by Jonas Salk. It worked. His employee and future cohort was Dr. Malone. I think the record speaks for itself then and especially now with Dr. Malone. American heroes.

moviedad
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moviedad
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

Maybe stop attacking baseless, unfounded statements with your ‘Commie,” facts based on historical evidence!
[Sarc]
Ha!

Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Two words for you: long COVID.

Liberty Biberty
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Liberty Biberty
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Long is a word. COVID is a scam.
It is especially important for the cranial compromised to get another booster however

Timb0D
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Thank you for the excellent reminder. LB watches FOX, no doubt.

Nick
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Nick
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Two words for you: LONG VACCINE.

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Before, the excuse was…
“Delta”…

Being vaxxed only helps prevent long COVID, maybe 15% of the time.

Why don’t you explain why the boosted are dying at twice the rate of the merely vaccinated, infections at nearly twice the rate, and hospitalizations are nearly 1.5 times the rate, statewide recently, please?

Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Perhaps it has to do with the data that those 65 and older are more likely to have gotten the booster than other age groups? As that population is more likely to be hospitalized and to die from complications associated with COVID it simply demonstrates that there’s only so much the vaccines can do for this group.

Nevertheless, you are still far more likely to get COVID, get hospitalized, or die from COVID complications if you are unvaccinated than if you are either vaccinated or vaccinated and boosted.

You’re using the relatively small absolute differences between numbers (e.g. 0.1 and 0.2 deaths per million vaccinated and boosted) and blowing up their significance. And then ignoring the still large absolute difference between the unvaccinated and the other groups.

This note is on the table for the California data:

  • Calculating rates by vaccination and booster status is affected by several factors that make interpretation of recent trends especially difficult. Factors including immunity from prior infection, waning protection related to the amount of time since vaccination, and differences in prevention and testing behaviors by age and vaccination status, have a growing impact on data over time. Despite these limitations, data continue to show that COVID-19 vaccination significantly reduces risk of infection and severe disease. CDPH continues to evaluate ways to present this information in a way that better accounts for these limitations.
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Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

I’m not talking about the disadvantage of being unvaccinated, only you are

Just exactly how much more likely that they had the booster?

And you just blew up the significance of this group being hospitalized or dying from complications associated with COVID-19.

And you are suggesting that “the still large absolute difference between the unvaccinated and the other groups”, is somehow significant?🤷‍♂️

But “double” for boosted vs vaccinated is insignificant?🤦‍♂️

It’s the large absolute difference,(100%), between the unvaccinated vs boosted, and the unvaccinated vs vaccinated, that you are minimizing, as if it had no significance.

“Out of 33 million people” in California.

52.8 unvaccinated deaths for May 8 to 15.

That isn’t even in question, that is a stand alone given, and not part of the debate.

6.6 boosted deaths vs
3.3 vaccinated deaths.

Double. (It’s backwards.)

And you don’t address the fact that vaccination, MAYBE, prevents 15% of long COVID, if that.

Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

From the state data:
84.5% of the 65+ age group is vaccinated.
75.9% of the 65+ age group is boosted.
= 8.6% of the group is vaccinated but not boosted.

Which means there are roughly 9 people in that age group who are boosted for every 1 person in that group who is vaccinated but not boosted.

Hence if the mortality rates were equal you’d expect 9 boosted deaths for every 1 vaccinated death assuming the booster did nothing to reduce mortality compared to vaccination alone. Since it’s lower than that ratio (e.g. 2 to 1), it appears that being boosted does reduce mortality rate.

I’ll readily admit that’s an oversimplification of the data to help explain the discrepancy. If you want more clarity, get qualified as a public health statistician or bioinformatic specialist and figure it out.

But as the database note stated — it’s complicated by time since vaccination and booster shots, any previous exposure to COVID and all the other factors that go into it.

A 15% reduction in the chance of long COVID isn’t great but it’s not 0 either.

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

That’s some pro-jabber pretzel logic, Tim.

Grab some coffee.

If the mortality rares were equal, well then, they would be equal.

Exactly.

If there was one vaccinated death per million, there would be one boosted death per million….

They are in separate groups, Tim, they are not all in the same group. That’s where you erred.

It doesn’t make a bit of difference how many of each there are my friend.

That has been adjusted for.

Your trying to say that all things being equal, (vaccinated or boosted makes no difference), that if they put a useless red dot on 90% their foreheads, (that represents the booster), that 9 times as many people (per million), with useless red dots on their foreheads would die, compared with those with no useless red dot on their foreheads (per million).

That is wrong. In each group, per million, red dots or not, the vaccinated and/or boosted, would die of COVID at exactly the same rate. (Per million)

Your explanation doesn’t pass muster…

Being boosted, compared with being only vaccinated, represents a doubled incidence of COVID deaths, nearly 1.5 times the incidence of hospitalizations, and nearly twice the number of infections, per million.

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Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I was interpreting the data as being per million population, not per million vaccinated or per million boosted because that wasn’t clearly stated in the data I looked at.

For vaccinated for the day of May 15th the death rate was 0.01223022 per 100k and for boosted it was 0.0157765 per 100k. Which when rounded goes to .1 per million and .2 per million. That makes a 25% difference look like 100% difference.

I don’t have access to enough data to tell if that’s statistically significant, especially since there are so many confounding variables.

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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

And from the state data… (CDC),

91.4% of 65+ is vaccinated, and 76.9% of them, (not 76.9% of their total population), have one or more boosters.

So, only 70.3% of 65+ are boosted, compared to the 91.4%, of them, that are vaccinated.

A 21.1% difference.

But, the 21.1% difference, between the vaccinated and the boosted, doesn’t factor into the equation at all, as far as the significantly increased outcomes of the boosted vs the merely vaccinated, per million.

And as far as the raw numbers of breakthrough COVID deaths…

Considering that about 4 out of 5 of the 65+ that are vaccinated, are boosted…

That means that in total, (not per million), there are about 8 boosted COVID deaths, for every
merely vaccinated COVID death.

So if you put a green dot on the forehead of those 65+ that are only vaccinated, and added a red dot to those that have also been boosted, then statistically,on average, in raw numbers, out of every 9 breakthrough COVID deaths, only 1 will have a green dot, (merely vaccinated), and about 8 will also have a red dot, (boosted).

You were saying, Tim ???

Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I’m saying we both could be a bit better at trying to interpret the data — my initial impressions were wrong because I was hasty in looking at the data but I also believe you are misinterpreting (or over-interpreting) the differences.

You are right that the data is 75.9% of the booster-eligible population is boosted, which means they have to be vaccinated first to be counted, and I interpreted that incorrectly. Thanks for that clarification

However, the data isn’t showing the draconian difference you are implying either. I posted another comment that’s awaiting approval, probably because I typed the email in wrong, that explains part of it.

The daily data shows a slightly higher rate of death per 100k for boosted vs. vaccinated (note the rate for vaccinated looks like it includes the boosted so it’s not the rate for just vaccinated) but it’s not clear that it is statistically significant given that we don’t know the general health of boosted vs. not. It doesn’t seem to be double the rate that you are implying.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Slightly higher?

It appears to be double.

100% more, it appears.

(Additional detail, as I have previously mentioned, would add clarity, but that isn’t being provided.)

And you didn’t separate the two groups.

They are separate, and both are population adjusted… Per million.

Also, the “vaccinated” rate does not look like it includes the “boosted”, it’s a lower number, not a higher one…

One thing I need to clarify…

The comparison that I used was an equal comparison, of unvaccinated, vaccinated, and boosted, by the stated numbers per million, as if each group contained the same 33 million… Apples to apples…

But that is not the true case, so, for example, the daily unvaccinated deaths would only be about 13.2. instead of 52.8. because only about 23% of the the population is unvaccinated.

Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

You are comparing rounded numbers at the per million rate. The difference between the more precise numbers is smaller — for May 15th the difference from the chart is .0122… for vaccinated per 100k vs. .0157… for boosted. Those round to .1 per million and .2 per million.

Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Interesting.

All I have been able to access is the rounded to the tenths place per million information.

I realize it’s not detailed enough for proper comparison, but it’s all I could access.

Where are you seeing that?

How do I get there?

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Tim
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Tim
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I went searching through the source data. There’s a ton of it and not all the numbers make sense to me because I’m not sure of how they are defining their variables and formulas.

This is the one I got those numbers from:

https://data.chhs.ca.gov/dataset/covid-19-post-vaccination-infection-data/resource/c5978614-6a23-450b-b637-171252052214

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Thanks. I will check it out.

Is that just for California?

It looks like it from the link…

Still not quite sure how they would come up with .157× 8.2 (1.2874) being 1.6?

But you might just be looking at only May 15 specifically.

The information from the chart from this article is a seven day average…

Not disputing what you are saying, just an observation. It likely varies to some degree every day…

I have already been complaining that the information should be provided rounded to the hundredths or thousandths place, for proper comparison.

Thanks for finding it and providing it.

So, for May 15, the boosted deaths were 1.3 times the vaccinated deaths, not double…

That is a lot different…

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Thanks for digging in to this. I thought the numbers
presented sounded a little inflated.

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

I am sure that the increased boosted hospitalizations vs merely vaccinated hospitalizations estimations are ten times more accurate…

Same with case counts being almost double for boosted vs merely vaccinated.

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Do these numbers sound inflated?

Raw COVID deaths for The 9 most recent days reported…

Unvaxxed, vaxxed, boosted, left to right.

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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Hospitalizations, raw numbers…

Same order… Same dates…

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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Cases, raw numbers, 7 most recent days reported, same order…

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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Adjusted cases, per 100,000, same 7 days, same order…

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Adjusted hospitalizations per day, per 100,000… same 7 days, same order…

For May 15 alone, boosted hospitalizations were 1.41 times higher than merely vaccinated hospitalizations…

7 day average, 1.40 times higher for boosted hospitalizations, vs merely vaccinated hospitalizations.

I said nearly 1.5.

Pretty accurate.

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Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Here are the adjusted deaths, per million… Same seven days, same order.

Boosted deaths are 1.19 times the merely vaccinated deaths.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

For cases May 15th, boosted cases rounded DOWN to 1.99 times the merely vaccinated cases, as you can see…

I said “nearly double”.

I’d say that is plenty accurate.

(Not inflated in any way).

For cases, 6 day average, actually, most recent reported…
Boosted cases 2.01 times merely vaccinated cases.

(also not inflated)

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grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Amazing Grace
. I make a simple statement to Tim and you post 8 with screenshots, that I won’t even read,to try and prove something to me that I don’t even reallycare about. All that time and energy. You could have been reading a good book, watching a documentary.

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Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

That is the horrible quagmire that is being laid out. Someone who doesn’t object to spending huge amounts of time in supplying endless details that they announce proves themselves right (more importantly in their minds, proving someone else wrong) then gloatingly announces the necessity of others doing the same whether they want to or not, is engaging in pettifoggery. If you allow them to control the debate, they think they win (in their own minds at least) because they either make you waste time supplying counter information which they subsequently dismiss anyway or they take reluctance to waste your time in reacting to every detail they supply as proof they are right. In other words, the goal is not a discovery of the best information, it is to “win” in their rigged game.

But there is an easier path if wanting to oppose them in that this particular group of anti vaxxer commenters never derives their idea independently. So it is guaranteed that someone somewhere has already seen other internet anti vaxxer’s say the same thing and has dealt with it. All you have to do is a search of bits of their contentions and – voilà- someone will have already done the leg work for you. In this case, addressed this particular case of misinformation by noting they are comparing apples to oranges. ““As noted on the COVID-19 Index, in order to draw these important conclusions the data must be analyzed to control for factors including, age, repeat testing, recent or direct exposure to COVID-19 and pre-existing conditions among others.”” which of course they fail to do because it doesn’t give the preferred answer. https://www.factcheck.org/2022/06/scicheck-vaccinated-people-not-more-susceptible-to-covid-19-than-unvaccinated/

As long as Kym allows unlimited posting in comments, the paranoid and obsessed, no matter how wrong, can and do out post everyone else who is not equally obsessed with their version of winning any debate. At the end, whether you attempt to reason or not, they will drag it down to personal attacks. It’s the first and only rule of their game.

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thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

I absolutely love that your positioned has developed into;

“The people who disagree are not worth engaging with because they don’t even have original thoughts, so I will prove them wrong by posting something I found on the internet that addresses a different question! That will show them how foolish they are. ”

The fact remains, an initial series of vaccinations appears to reduce your chances of acute covid complications. For the vast majority of people the risk of those acute complications is extremely low to begin with. And the full risk profile of the mrna injections remains a bit amorphous, although there is certainly a number of acknowledged serious risks related to these new products.

As it stands now the additional doses don’t appear to offer any additional benefit. But they certainly carry an additional bit of unknown risk. For some reason however, our various public health agencies have chosen to embrace a strategy of minimal nuance. People are encouraged to accept each additional dose as quickly as it is made available to them, and anyone who encourages any hesitation is to be dismissed.

For reasons that are obvious to many of us, this full throated endorsement of a product with no established safety profile beyond 2 doses (and the clinical trials underpinning that short term assessment are currently under a federal False Claims Act lawsuit from a whistleblower alleging outright fraudulent data collection) doesn’t inspire much confidence in the agencies providing it

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago

“Embrace a strategy of minimal nuance?” Really? Says the relentless purveyors of misinformation and propaganda … You know the “it’s only the flu, magnetic arms, you’re all going to die or be made sterile or get cancer, generic reprograming, ADE, Dr. Malone-inventer-of-mRNA-vaccines, fearful of being taken over by the New World Order or LGM (that your choice), etc” never-nuanced hysterics. Masters of the “if you can’t make any sense, turn it into a personal attack” debaters.

Yes, my position has evolved from a principle of respect for everyone as having a but of the truth to TheRealBrian’s belief that some people are so relentlessly stupid as to be a danger to the constinued survival of the species.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

Shaming others for personal attacks while resorting to deeming the opposition “relentlessly stupid” makes me laugh.

Nooo
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Nooo
1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Let’s contemplate the difference: an attack on ideas is at the level of thought while an attack on the individual is at the level of personal emotion. So, when constantly choosing straw-man diversions, expect the response to be contempt for that which is universally considered contemptible.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  Nooo

If you spent half the effort addressing the actual comments made by actual people that you spend assembling your strawman of every absurd comment you imagine someone has made you might actually be able to rejoin the conversation.

No one in this conversation has said any of those things that you claim are the bedrock of our beliefs. I feel embarrassed for you reading that. I hope that it offers you some mental solace, because it sure doesn’t make your stated position on the value of and appropriate strategy regarding covid vaccination seem at all credible.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
1 year ago

The futility of trying to get through to some people is so great it’s often better to laugh and walk away. Accusing everyone else of “pettifoggery” and personal attacks is classic irony. And hilarious. To reduce legitimate and proven concerns as trivial and time-wasting pettifoggery is a weak attempt at making the disturbing truths, and anyone repeating them, go away. (And a chance to brandish the the word pettifoggery. 😜)

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thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Yes, at this point I believe that Ms nooooo is actually engaged in some high level satire designed to lampoon the pfaithful.

On many threads her posts are the most convincing arguments against accepting these injections.

Guest
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Guest
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

I averaged the 7 days up to, and, May 15…
From your link… (Thanks)

1.039 unvaccinated deaths per million…
(not 1.6, as they say for whatever reason)

0.133 vaccinated per million…
0.158 boosted per million…

Unvaccinated 6.6 times as likely to die of COVID than boosted…
(not 8.2, as they say for whatever reason)

Unvaccinated 7.8 times as likely to die from COVID than merely vaccinated…

Boosted 1.2 times as likely to die of COVID than merely vaccinated.

grey fox
Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

I will take the vaccine odds any day.
Same people saying not enough study done on the vaccines, are the ones saying don’t worry about Long COVID.

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

You deleted your question about how many people were realistically represented…

Very clever grey fox…

Very clever…

Nevertheless,

I will leave my reply…

Here it is…

“I can answer that…

I already had it written down…

On May 15th, 8 unvaccinated deaths, 4 vaccinated deaths, and 3 boosted deaths.

An inclusive, per day, seven day average, was 5 unvaccinated deaths, 1.3 vaccinated deaths, and 2.4 boosted deaths.

You did see Tim’s link, didn’t you?

It’s all there.

I’ve tried to get into that data before, but not only did it look ominous, it wouldn’t open or froze up n me.

The trick is to go right to “page 47″, the last page, which is the most current page…

Let me see if I can get some screenshots…

I’m no Welshman, I let go of grudges quickly.

It’s part of being a Christian.

There are many facets to it, not just top and bottom.

I couldn’t bear holding every grudge for 200 years.

My back is already shot…

🤔🧐But don’t get any ideas…😁”

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grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

The reply I deleted was to Tim not you.
But since you think it was directed at you.
Of those 15 people, list ages, prior health conditions. What led them to get COVID-19 in the first place. Previous life style. Heavy drinkers, smokers, bad diet, no exercise, not taking any precautions. What vaccines did they receive. So many variables to consider.

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Who the hell is Dr. John Moore? Your Chiropractor?

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Ask less questions, pay more attention…

Helen Keller.

https://kymkemp.com/2022/06/10/californias-latest-statewide-covid-19-information/#comment-1526708

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._Moore

You seem to be only asking questions, just looking for external validation, not for answers.

Try Siri, or Alexa…

How did lunch go?

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Reply to  grey fox

You got about 1 in 6 2/3rds chance, (15%), of your vaccinations preventing long COVID, which probably decreases with multiple infections.

I wouldn’t bet the ranch on it…

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1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

The number that is double is the RATE. Not the raw numbers. Out of the total population of boosted Individuals the RATE of infection, hospitalization, and death is higher than the RATE of those occurrences out of the total population of simply vaccinated people.

The data is presented in a way to control for the population size discrepancy that you are trying to use to justify dismissing the apparent reality that additional vaccine doses make infection, hospitalization, and death MORE likely to occur

Timb0D
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1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Is it “logic”al to chance a moderate illness? If so, when is the last time you wished to have one? It’s no fun being sick, in my opinion.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Timb0

Mild to moderate illness is what the breakthru infections produce. The vax is not the shield people have been brainwashed into thinking it is. Look around! It’s the rare vaxxed and boosted that hasn’t been infected with covid. So we are all chancing moderate illness. There’s so many sick vaxxed AND boosted people it’s embarrassing. We’re all going to get it, and probably more than once . Look up endemic . Covid-19 is something we will live with going forward. It’s like any common viral infection, which are notoriously hard on the weak and old. For them there will be hit and miss vaccines but use logic. If we were able to vax our way out of the flu we would have done it five decades ago.

AkbarD
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1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

I get the flu vax every year – sometimes I still get flu, but my doc says it lessens the severity. He says the same is true for Covid. I trust my doc because he is really smart, and actually went to med school. I say get vaxxed, wash your hands, and do some living.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Akbar

2 out 3 ain’t bad

moviedad
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moviedad
1 year ago
Reply to  Akbar

Medical school?
Phffft!
How’d he vote?
Ha!

Rimme
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1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

So then, 19% who had it had more than a mild or moderate illness? If so, your 81% ain’t nothing to crow about; means nearly one outta five got kinda ILL according to your cdc-sourced data.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Yes, a “bad cold” that has killed more than one million of our fellow citizens. Be dismissive of that if you want. But understand that it just makes you look like a jerk.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Xebeche

1 million dead from covid. Lol you poor thing

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1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Insurance analyst from Wall Street discovered disability data from Dept of Labor.

“This is real-time data…We added another 3 million disabled individuals in this country in 2021, going into 2022…It’s a disaster. It’s grim.”

This is a 10% increase in disabled people in 1 year.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Always one person responsible
Fantasy land.

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1 year ago
Reply to  moviedad

The one person lookin back in thwith mirror….

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

WHO report out today says Wuhan lab leak covid origins needs to be better investigated vs zoonotic. About time but likely to be blocked by Fauci and Chinese

grey fox
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1 year ago

LOL, that report came out days ago. Bottom line. It’s still a hypothesis, says so in the report

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

That sounds hypocritical.

Has the zoonotic origin been proven?

Not even close.

Or is that what you are talking about is “still a hypothesis”?

You didn’t specify.

Bottom line…

“A hypothesis”, applies to both a zoonotic origin, and a lab leak origin, at this point…

Can you correctly rule out one hypothesis any more than the other?

I don’t think so.

But, it seems that you have.

When it comes to a zoonotic origin…

You failed to even mention that ” It’s still a hypothesis”…

(It hasn’t been proven…)

Neutrality would be the prudent course, don’t you think???

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Reply to  grey fox

When did the CDC get the flu and Fauci’s farcical bioweapon mixed up? They’re one and the same, ain’t they?

“Masks won’t help.”

“Wear masks.”

“The vaccines will prevent illness.”

“No, wait, the vaccines won’t help.”

“Fuck it, I’m going to a baseball game since no one else can go, and I ain’t wearing a mask, neither!”

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

Yeah, “unknowns”, like why the boosted are twice as likely to die in California, Statewide, as the merely vaccinated as of May 15th the most recent report.???

And why they are failing to even mention the fact???

“THE BOOSTED” ARE DYING OF COVID-19 AT TWICE THE RATE OF THE MERELY “VACCINATED”!…

WHY???

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AkbarD
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1 year ago
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More tinfoil!

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1 year ago
Reply to  Akbar

It’s right there in black and white, from this article’s dashboard, Akbar…

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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

They just scream the lies louder to drown out these disasterous stats. Talk about astounding!!!

rollin
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1 year ago
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That chart says the unvaccinated are 8 x more likely to die of Covid??

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1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

Unvaccinated: 1.6 per/million

Vaccinated: 0.1 per/million

Boosted: 0.2 per million.

They write…

“Unvaccinated are 8.2 times more likely to die of COVID than boosted….”

What they don’t write…

“Unvaccinated are 16 times more likely to die than the “merely vaccinated”.”

But even those two descriptions might be confusing.

It should say…

The vaccinated are 1/16th as likely as the unvaccinated, to die from COVID-19…

“But, (twice as likely) the boosted are actually only 1/8th as likely as the unvaccinated, to die from COVID-19…”

“So the boosted are twice as likely to have died of COVID-19 as the merely vaccinated, but un-boosted.”

“For each vaccinated person that died of COVID-19, 2 boosted individuals died of COVID-19, May 8, 2022, to May 15, 2022.”

It’s all true, but there is no way that they will make that kind of a true statement.

They don’t mention the merely vaccinated, and how they compared to the unvaccinated and boosted.

That is concealed.

rollin
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rollin
1 year ago
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OK I got it. I would just ignore this part though:

“For each vaccinated person that died of COVID-19, 2 boosted individuals died of COVID-19, May 8, 2022, to May 15, 2022.”

It’s prolly nuttin, not a trend or anything. SADS is like, totally normal bro, unless you’re a racist, conspiracy theorist, anti vaxxer.

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

“Unknowns”?”…

Do you mean why they keep repeating this obvious lie…

“Rates of cases, hospitalizations and deaths are highest among unvaccinated individuals and lowest among boosted individuals.”

Not lowest among boosted individuals!
Lowest among vaccinated but un-boosted individuals. In all categories.

Boosted compared to merely vaccinated,are nearly 1.5, nearly 2, and 2 times as high, respectively.

The boosted are suffering much more numerous outcomes, of all kinds, compared to the merely vaccinated.

The most notable, deaths are twice as high for the boosted as they are for the merely vaccinated.

A shocking, alarming statistic.

And it’s not even being mentioned…

My father and his second wife, (81 and 70’s), both boosted ×1, Pfizer, both tested positive for COVID-19 last Thursday. He’s not doing as well as his wife…

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1 year ago

“California’s latest statewide covid-19 Mis-information”

Hayforker
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1 year ago
Reply to  Nick

Pure 100% propaganda.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Nick

28 year old Bieber cancels show after getting Ramsay Hunt Syndrome; partial facial paralysis.

Ramsay Hunt syndrome is a complication of shingles that can lead to temporary facial paralysis.

Shingles is basically a malfunction of the central nervous system, resulting from exposure to viruses and pathogens (read: “vaccines”).

This is still just the beginning.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10905347/Ju

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You can’t possibly think that there are guarantees, I mean legal , solid, binding guarantees that being vaccinated guarantees you ANYTHING more than HOPE.

Plenty of healthy people in my life vax/unvax…some are obviously better at their health choices, so getting vaccinated means nothing, but to those unfortunate souls who’ve spent years taking their immune system for granted. ..well , do you feEl lucky?

It amaze’s me that we can’t see what a billion dollar bonanza for big pharmaceutical is doing to our country.

It amazes me that people think that health is entirely up to the professionals to tell you how to navigate choices.

The fact that these huge pharmaceutical companies and our non elected health officials are presiding over a cluster fuck of a managed crisis.

You don’t the answers for my life, just as I don’t have the answers for yours, but we should agree that we must look to the past atrocities of the peaceful populations to know we can never let our guard down

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1 year ago

Ends with “we must look to the past atrocities of the peaceful populations” but opens with Bieber photo. Sitcom material LOL!

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1 year ago
Reply to  Rimme

A childish mind will be dominated,….you are pretending to be asleep. Poor thing. What happens when the trucks stop bringing you food?

Grow up and grow your own .

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Rimme
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1 year ago

Vax to Bieber to food trucks, all connected, their out to get us.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“the sudden and unexpected passing of Deputy Dist. Atty. Kelly Ernby…”

Tell us how “sudden and unexpected” equates to Ms Ernby sick and eventually dying from covid. Please. Because that is not the typical path of a Covid demise.

But because she was anti-mandate of course her passing will be pointed back to her unvaxxed status. And the press release from “famous dead anti vaxxers ” told you so, right? …. A deeper investigative dive seems in order.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“Ernby died of complications due to COVID-19 but Wagner says she was home when it happened.

She was gardening, a blood clot took her life. She was not in the hospital suffering from COVID, he said.”

There’s the deeper dive.

The double standard and double speak is so obvious. Medical providers are identifying blood clots and pulmonary events post-vax as non-related and “coincidental” (not causative) conditions.

How then, can anyone in good faith directly link her random death from a blood clot –gardening for God’s sake— to Covid? Astounding!! And ridiculous. But they do it because it furthers the agenda and the divide. Smh.

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thatguyinarcata
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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, doesn’t the same question go the other way? Why are the dominant cultural media forces in our world unwilling to even acknowledge the risks of these vaccines?

Why are we told for months on end about the hardship caused by the illness while anyone who talks about the hardship caused by the proposed treatments is shouted down and smeared?

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym all information on vaccine vs no vaccine is subjective. There is way to many variables. If you look at the health of people by just there outside appearance one that is subjective. Maybe just realizing for once that you are extremely biased. Trying looking at things from other angles. Emotion always rules out logic.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Jabba the hut

Any information on vaccine death is censored.

Just googled ” vaccine death” in order to prove it.

You won’t find even one testament to a vaccine death that way on Google.

Counterintuitively, Kelly Ernby’s (anti-vaccine) supposed COVID death is front and center…

Propaganda?

It’s not that there haven’t been any vaccine deaths.

There have been many.

So why are they being concealed?

Censorship? (Yep)

Are we being duped?

(Yes, that is a rhetorical question.)

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Reply to  Jabba the hut

I did find this under “vaccine death”…

It’s not a case study, so it must have slipped through the cracks…

Yet, it has much darker implications…

https://unherd.com/thepost/study-into-mrna/

“…these preliminary results stand in sharp contrast to the unambiguous message from public health agencies and governments worldwide, which granted emergency authorization to the vaccines based on evidence from the trials that the vaccines reduce the likelihood of getting symptomatic covid. From a purely scientific perspective, preventing symptomatic covid is an interesting outcome to study. From a public health perspective, prevention of covid symptoms is not as important as prevention of death or disease transmission, which the randomized trials did not study. Dr. Stabell Benn and her colleagues have now looked at overall mortality for the first time.

At the very least, the plain implication (since both sets of vaccines are available) is that public health authorities should have recommended the cheaper adenovector vaccines over the mRNA vaccines all along for most patients.

In other words, the international move to de-authorise the AstraZeneca vaccine across Europe and elsewhere looks like it may have been a mistake, and that AZ was actually a better option than the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.”

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rollin
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1 year ago
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“It astounds me that folks make wild leaps of speculation without any proof”

What’s astounding is that your odds, according to NIH/CDC data, of getting this ultra rare condition, is 338 per 100k if you have been covid vaccinated, vs 5 per 100K unvaccinated! Yet, your conclusion is that it is “wild speculation” and there’s NO proof! Unfuckingbelievable!

 His 26 YEAR OLD wife just had a blood clot, another known side effect of covid “vaccines” (and ultra-rare event for a 26 year old). I guess it would be “wild speculation” to question if the “vaccines” could be responsible? Do you know what the CDC is doing, if anything to find out? Answer: NO!

What is astounding is your willingness to bury your head in the sand (along with the rest of the vaccine cult). You all criticize anything that disagrees with your religious adherence to this failed experiment as “misinformation”. You “trust the CDC/Faucci blindly (except VAERS) despite its/his shitty ass track record. You ignore tens of thousands of deaths and injuries and lazily use Politifact/ Reuters factcheck in place of an actual argument. We are about to begin “vaccinating” babies and children who are virtually at NO risk from covid. It’s disgusting! Their blood will be on all of your hands. Luckily (for you) you won’t be able to see it with your head buried in the sand.

/stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-cause-of-justin-biebers-facial?s=r

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1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

Well fuckin said.

rollin
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rollin
1 year ago

Thank you. Bet your bottom dollar an actual rebuttal will not be forthcoming. And notice the petty, Orwellian disabling of the link, lest you be tempted to commit a thoughtcrime by reading wrongthink. It’s so fucking pathetic.

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1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

Our ancestors weren’t perfect, but most of them we more connected to the reality of farming and making stuff with their hands. Salt of the earth types. The community looked after the elderly and the children with a deeper understanding of tradition and values.

It saddens me to see how disconnected people have become when it comes to believing strangers who have zero interest in your well-being, thinking they should be trusted when they have no accountability.

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1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

“Bet your bottom dollar an actual rebuttal will not be forthcoming…” You’re spot on.

The loud mouth, bossy pro-vaxxers never rebuttal ANY legit counterpoints. They dig in their heels, adjust the blinders and ear plugs, and walk away from the mess they made. Indignant that they can’t have their way. I’ve seen it over and over. Some folks are so biased and “invested” in the pro-vax, (anti-choice) cause they are absolutely unwilling to entertain another POV, even when backed by mountains of evidence that challenges their perspective. Astounding, is right.

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1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Maybe not “caused” by the COVID vaccines,, but maybe “triggered” by the COVID vaccines…???

“A consequence.”

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/shingles-after-covid-vaccine

And then maybe be the Ramsay Hunt Syndrome is a result of the flareup of shingles triggered by the vaccines?

Not a direct link, but an indirect one?

Doesn’t Ramsay Hunt Syndrome have an association to Shingles virus?

So the link would possibly be…

Step 1)

COVID vaccine triggers a latent shingles virus flare-up…

Step 2)

The latent shingles virus flare-up then triggers the Ramsay Hunt Syndrome…

Not impossible, actually quite plausible.

The COVID vaccine being virus free, does not preclude it from being a possible trigger to a shingles virus flareup, which could be then responsible for the Ramsay Hunt Syndrome.

I need to look into whether Ramsay Hunt Syndrome is similar to Bells Palsy, as it is triggered by shingles or a similar virus.

https://www.tampabayhearing.com/ear-education/bells-palsy-and-ramsay-hunt-syndrome/

Herpes simplex?

Herpes zoster?

I believe triggering a Bell’s Palsy flare up, is also a possible side effect of the COVID vaccines…

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00451-5/fulltext

Not necessarily a direct viral link, of course, but definitely a possible consequence, (a side effect.)

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8450380/

“Varicella-zoster virus reactivation and idiopathic facial paralysis have often been reported in association with several virus vaccinations, including influenza and hepatitis B. It is therefore not particularly surprising that cases of both conditions in relation to SARS-CoV-2 vaccination have recently been published, as mentioned above. Evidence of peripheral facial paralysis has even emerged from a phase III clinical trial with COVID-19 vaccines4. That article reported that 844 (0.6%) of the 133,883 cases of adverse reactions to mRNA COVID-19 vaccines received by the World Health Organization pharmacovigilance database by the beginning of March (considering that more than 320 million people had been vaccinated) were facial paralysis events (749 cases were with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and 95 with the Moderna vaccine).”

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Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The virus that causes Ramsay Hunt syndrome is the varicella-zoster virus which is the same virus that causes chickenpox and shingles. It is carried and lies dormant in the vast majority of the population.

These viral pathways can be re-activated as a side effect of inflammation, fever and stress to the organism from routine vaccination efforts like the mRNA vax for Covid -19

While you and loads of other people posing as “health experts” like to appear as a Portals of Truth scrubbing the internet of all the crazies , unfortunately you are operating with an incomplete understanding of the risks, and causation of Ramsey Hunt syndrome.

Shit exactly like this, that luc montagnier warned everyone about from the start! But it was ignored .

Here is a case study.
” there are limited data on the negative effects of immunological reactivation following vaccination. We report 10 incidences of herpes zoster reactivation within 7-21 days of getting the COVID-19 vaccination.” Link trashed.

Original reply had a link to study and did not clear moderation. Google the quote to find it , I guess. Looks like guest also replied with loads of the same info. Will you agree that yes it’s “caused by a virus “… a latent virus that has been reactivated through triggering event. Like vaccination.

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rollin
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rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“The link was disabled when I saw it. I thought you had done it.”

My apologies

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1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

🤔🧐Like the zoonotic origin theory? 🦇🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

rollin
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rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Be careful not to speak of that, especially with a link. That is double plus bad and a thoughtcrime that may get you unpersonned.

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1 year ago
Reply to  rollin

Seems like a good place to post this comment…

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/the-insanity-of-mandating-camp-boosters-for-kids

“…are heart problems associated with boosting such a small risk that they are outweighed by the risk of hospitalization for COVID-19? Not at all: Recent data from Israel show that a small number of kids and young adults, especially young males, are more likely to suffer serious and potentially life-altering consequences to their heart from the booster than to be hospitalized with COVID-19.”

And I’ve just been wondering, about why the COVID outcomes, cases hospitalizations and deaths, have been more likely for the boosted vs the merely vaccinated, by 2 times, 1.4 times, and 1.2 times, respectively?

Maybe it has to do with the fact that they significantly extended the expiration dates of so many of the vaccine and booster doses, and went ahead and gave them to people after they would have initially expired and should have been discarded. Wouldn’t it
especially apply the booster doses, as they were given last?

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1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

From the above link…

“Evidence of increased risk with no gain in protection isn’t stopping camps, schools, or the CDC from pushing third shots for children and teens”

rollin
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rollin
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I don’t believe it has anything to do with expiration dates. It has to do with the AMOUNT of mRNA introduced to your body, increasing the body’s immune reaction to attack “infected” cells. This was warned about.

I posted this link (among others) a year ago. Maybe they were disabled because Kym Kemp knows more about mRNA than world renowned virologist/immunologists. A Wikipedia link, however, maligning Dr. Bhakdi as a misinformation spreading conspiracy theorist is perfectly legit. That and a Politifact factcheck.

Go to 11 minutes if you can’t watch the whole thing:

https://youtu.be/7UD7fbBbRxA

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1 year ago

Did you delete it because you realized all you had to do was click his link and then actually satisfy your own request by a little simple navigation?

That’s what I was wondering…

And as far as who should satisfy your latest request…

After you, you know what they say…

You’s first.

And, maybe they were just stupid, and we’re taking extra unnecessary risks, because they were misled to believe that they were more protected than they actually were, by being boosted, as Dr. John Moore suggested…

Look that one up…

You ask, “not taking any precautions?

They got vaccinated and boosted didn’t they?

Doesn’t that mean that they took precautions?

You don’t seem to think so.

Does that mean they were stupid?

You don’t seem to think so.

Maybe they got vaccinated and boosted, because they always had been being stupid, and intended to keep being stupid?

I sort of think so.

Dr. John Moore seems to agree.

Rimme
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Rimme
1 year ago
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You ok?

grey fox
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1 year ago
Reply to  Rimme

He was replying to me. Got bumped down here for some reason.
Do you know who Dr John Moore is?

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1 year ago
Reply to  grey fox

I already posted this information…

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-booster-shot-infection-rate/

“…John Moore, a professor of microbiology and immunology at Weill Cornell Medical College, told CBS News.”

“So, one of the dynamics here is that people feel, after vaccination and boosting, that they’re more protected than they actually are, so they increase their risks,” he said. “That, I think, is the major driver of these statistics.”

Does he think that means that they must be stupid?

Do you think that it’s because they must be stupid?

I mean they got vaccinated and boosted, that’s what he’s talking about…

So that means that they are taking extra risks?

Bullshit!

That’s prevention, right?

He says it’s because “they feel that they’re more protected than they really are, so they increase their risks?

Bullshit!

Is that really why, in CA, recently, the boosted are 2 times more likely to be infected, 1.4 times as likely to be hospitalized, and 1.2 times more likely to have died, than the merely vaccinated, all from COVID?

Booster anyone?
No thanks.

Did they trade an ounce of prevention for taking a pound of risk?

Or is there something that we are not being told?

Like less works more, and more works less?

Something stinks!

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