1 Death, 5 New Hospitalizations, 384 New Cases During Past Seven-Day Period
Press release from the Humboldt County Public Health:
Humboldt County Public Health reported today the death of a resident aged 80 or older from COVID-19. Five new hospitalizations were reported, a resident in their 50s and four aged 80 or older.
An additional 265 confirmed positive cases of COVID-19 were reported as well as 119 new probable cases for the period between Tuesday, May 17, and Tuesday, May 24. The total number of confirmed cases in the county stands at 18,343. An additional 3,423 cases are reported as probable.*
Local vaccination data has been updated on the COVID-19 Data Dashboard. Highlights include:
- Since the last weekly report on May 18, an additional 109 residents completed their vaccine series.
- A total of 90,213 individuals, or approximately 66% of the county’s total population, have been fully vaccinated as of Tuesday.
Booster doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech Pediatric COVID-19 vaccine for individuals 5 to 11 years of age are now available at all Public Health vaccination clinics. Five months must have elapsed since completion of their primary series. The smaller booster doses for that age group were approved by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Friday.
OptumServe continues to offer rapid antigen testing and PCR testing services at the Wharfinger site. PCR tests are available only on a walk-in basis and must be specifically requested from the attendee. Walk-in attendees should receive only rapid antigen testing unless the attendee specifically states they require a PCR test. Appointments for antigen testing can be made at lhi.care/covidtesting or by calling 888-634-1123.
Vaccines remain readily available throughout Humboldt County and, as always, Humboldt’s vaccination and testing services are available free of charge. Walk-ins are welcome at all Public Health clinics and some pharmacy vaccination sites. Appointments can also be made at MyTurn.ca.gov.
Second booster shots of Pfizer and Moderna are available at all Humboldt County Public Health vaccine clinics for those 50 and older, as well as certain immunocompromised individuals, as long as it has been four months since their first booster shot. Those interested in a second booster can also check with pharmacies about availability. To check the availability of a specific vaccine, visit the vaccines.gov page, or text your ZIP code to 438829 to locate a nearby pharmacy offering vaccines.
As part of the federal government’s National COVID-19 Preparedness Plan, the nationwide Test to Treat Initiative was launched, with one Humboldt location at the Wharfinger Building. At Test to Treat locations, people are tested for COVID-19 and if a person tests positive, is 12 or older and treatments are deemed appropriate for them, Paxlovid antiviral medication will be administered at no charge. A registered nurse is onsite with a Telehealth link to a medical doctor in order to dispense medication, should the patient choose.
Please note: Public Health vaccine clinics will not be available on Monday, May 30, due to the Memorial Day holiday, and OptumServe’s Wharfinger site will be closed that day, as well.
See the schedule below for specific Public Health vaccination and testing clinic dates, times, locations and available services. Questions about clinic services can be directed to Public Health at 707-445-6201.
Blue Lake — Thursday, May 26, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Blue Lake Resource Center (111 Greenwood Road)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Walk-ins are welcome.Eureka — Friday, May 27, 1 to 8 p.m.
Wharfinger Building (1 Marina Way)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Walk-ins are welcome.Willow Creek — Tuesday, May 31, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Office (77 Walnut Way)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Walk-ins are welcome.Fortuna — Wednesday, June 1, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Fortuna Veterans Hall (1426 Main St.)
Ages 5 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Walk-ins are welcome.* “Confirmed cases” represent the total confirmed positive PCR tests results or detection of SARS-CoV-2 by genomic sequencing, and “probable cases” are individuals who:
- Have a positive antigen (Ag) test for COVID-19, or
- Were diagnosed by a health care provider with COVID-19 disease, or
- Have symptoms of COVID-19 disease after being in close contact with a person having a PCR-confirmed test result, or
- Were a decedent whose death certificate lists COVID-19 as a cause or significant contributing factor of their death, in the absence of a positive PCR test result.
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May Isis Bless Us!
The US spends at least $225 billion on mental illness each year in a broken system with no clear-cut solutions
https://www.businessinsider.com/cost-of-inequity-americas-225-billion-broken-mental-healthcare-system-2021-4
Problem is too many crazy people.
Why doesn’t Biden push hard for the $110 billion of unspent rescue plan school funding to be spent on school safety instead of CRT and union salaries? Because Joe doesn’t really care about our children’s safety, only his identity politics and special interest supporters. Just like Biden’s Illegal Immigration Invasion – it’s too make his billionaire donors richer while American workers’ wages are suppressed even as Bidenflation is killing American families.
Joe Biden did that!
Watch the news and try to stay informed! Biden tried to pass a trillion dollar rescue package. The Republicans voted it down. Who’s Fault.?
The Dems passed a $1.9 trillion plan triggered Bidenflation according to Obama’s economic guru, Larry Summers, it’s in the news, please stay informed.
CRT is not taught in public schools. It is college level. And unions are why we have any protection for workers. Unions are why we have weekends, 40 hour weeks, overtime pay and child labor laws.
Biden may be a doddering old fart, but he is not responsible for the ills our nation suffers. That can be laid squarely at the feet of big business which via political contributions and lobbying controls the agenda of congress and now apparently the supreme court as well.
👍
You actually believe that CRT lie when there’s dozens of documented cases of CRT incorporated into grade school lesson plans. Sad you willingly wear those blinders
Thanks you for so clearly demonstrating how Fox News can inculcate the gullible by misusing a phrase like critical race theory. In their minds, anything that shows people of European ancestry behaving badly towards other races is CRT. That’s despite American history quite literally being just that. It makes right-wing white folks uncomfortable and we can’t have that, can we?
That however isn’t CRT.
Do you think that white children should be raised being told that they are guilty and responsible for something that they had no part in? And do you think that (insert race other than white here) children should be raised being told they are victims, and that it is all the white mans fault? This is essentially teaching everyone to hate the white man. It’s called indoctrination. There are racists in every race. And to label all whites as racist is painting with a broad brush. Sounds like division.
And you’re feeding it
I believe that all kids should be educated about the real history of the country and frankly, some of that history is pretty fucking uncomfortable.
Exploring what our ancestors did isn’t indoctrinating people to “hate the white man“. It’s saying that folks did some appalling shit and they excused it at the time by saying people of other races weren’t really humans so it was okay. That includes genocide against numerous aboriginal tribes and enslaving people of African descent.
Hiding that history and the effect it has had on our country’s institutions and laws in the name of protecting white kids feelings isn’t doing anyone any good.
Current events are going to determine the future of the free world.
Get out if your safe spaces and figure it out.
There’s a huge war on the working class .
Again, you are painting with a broad brush. The colonists were Spanish and British. There’s a lot of people of “European descent “ that you are lumping in there. Teach the kids unbiased and accurate history I agree with you. Teach them things like indentured servitude, black slave owners, such as Anthony Johnson, the first slave owner in America. And teach them that the land was taken from the natives by force. Teach them that there were slaves in every race, and that Africans sold their own people into slavery. There were also slave revolts, where slaves massacred their owners and took their land. Yes history was ugly, but it wasn’t only the whites. Teach that
History is being quietly eliminated as a subject in K-12 schools. Every identifiable group vociferously objects to history not being taught “correctly” by which they meant they way they experience it. Since it’s impossible to resolve, it is becoming invisible. Which is the worse kind of education (no education) but it’s certainly less stressful. This is where a constant demand for making everyone feel acknowledged by blaming someone else has come down to- no one getting acknowledged lest it leaves someone angry.
Don’t decide to major in History if you want to get a teaching credential.
The concepts and principles of CRT are woven throughout the curriculum. Teachers are also overwhelmingly liberal. The school system is rotten to the core. Take your children out of government schools. States should provide tax breaks for people who remove their kids from these abusive indoctrination camps. Even if the state doesn’t, you’re better off getting your kids away from these deviants.
It’s more than a little funny that conservatives keep saying, “The best educated folks are all liberals!” and completely fail to recognize that as people learn more about the world, a significant majority of them tend to become more liberal.
That’s not elitism or indoctrination, it’s simply becoming more aware that the world is a big complicated place and not the 1950’s Leave it to Beaver world conservatives imagine and dream of.
👍 well said
I never said that. Spend a few days at a University and you’ll be treated to liberal stupidity on a level matched only by MSNBC and CNN.
I will state that those (liberals) who always claim to be open-minded are the most judgmental, close-minded, bigoted people I’ve ever met.
And don’t forget what Malcolm X said, “The white liberal is the worst enemy to America and the worst enemy to the black man.”
Hate to tell you this, but attending HSU made me more conservative, as I got a front row seat to thinking not rooted in reality (academia). Most of those people would not survive in the real world and their worldview is as false as their sense of superiority. HSU had classes that were incredibly indoctrinating. I took a class entitled “The Psychology of Women” that was nothing more than the promotion of women’s victimhood in the world and how they will never be on the same level as men. Disgusting. You’re take on things seems out of touch with reality. When did you attend university?
Education does not equal wisdom.
This country was made soft by comfort foods
Gas prices are creeping up… like Biden on a twelve year old
Ewww!
Here is something really creepy..
No Atheist Has Done This Much Damage to the Christian FaithLeaders of the Southern Baptist Convention reportedly chose to protect their denomination by hiding abuse—and then attempted to destroy the victims.
By Peter Wehner
So, grey fox, do you think Biden’s kinder-sniffing isn’t creepy?
Why are you always trying to divert attention from the truth that you find uncomfortable, towards something else?
Is Biden your idol?
Just one of them?
And Bidenflation is about to hit food really hard straining American family budgets. First Biden’s Baby Formula Shortage starved and hospitalized American babies and next Biden’s going to starve entire American families. I can hear the lefties’ answer already “let them eat soy, rice, and beans!”
Joe Biden did that!
This applies here I think.
What is with the democrats problem with Fox News? Answer: you hate free speech if it does not conform to what you believe because only your views. and thoughts are legitimate. But the determination of categorizing as legitimate is made by you guys. You know that is bullshit and so does the rest of America. You can turn the channel as I do, because the msm has entered my brain trajectory about 10 minutes over the last 20 years, mostly in the Lihue and Oakland airports. Therefore, the democrats have hit a brick wall, are stuck in the bog, the tank tracks are disabled on a rock wall, the guns are jamming, and the Jeep is out of diesel. In essence, their pooch is screwed and the holdouts are like those last Japanese soldiers holed up in the jungles of Guam, thinking they are still winning. They are not winning, the game is already over.
Are you one of the few that still think Biden is doing a good job?
Biden is mediocre at best. I didn’t expect much different from him because he’s a career schmoozer. It’s only in comparison to his predecessor that makes him look like he isn’t a complete fuck-up.
Biden is a total disappointment to the human race , he graduated at the top of his class according to him, what a liar. The American people can do better, this lying piece of sheet is a career politician with your money in his best interests, crack me up.
Interesting that you would bring up academic performance considering that 45 was a near-dunce and paid to have his papers written in college.
Atleast he didn’t lie about it, crack me up. The last guy that lied to me about his education was a real winner just like Joe Biden, how did this liar get elected ? Very much a disappointment
Trump certainly did not disclose those things. Claiming to be a high IQ “stable genius” is a lie as far as I’m concerned. Or maybe just delusional. Not a Biden fan either, BTW.
It depends on what kind of “stable” we are talking about.
Stables are where you might find a horse’s ass.
His uncle was probably fucking smarter than you realize. People who make that kind of wealth,don’t worry about your experience.
2000 Mules
So true.
I hated cheap gasoline, full employment, China and Russia on a short leash.
Biden is so much better.
The disaster of lowered expectations
Illegal immigrants get baby formula and food…American citizens get fentanyl
Here’s the lefties solution:
Social engineering at its best.
Sorry, but your buddy trump had a lot to do with the formula shortage when he slapped tariffs on the Canadian companies that made it. Canada said, ‘fine, we’ll sell it to someone else’. You know, you can look this stuff up.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/may/24/facebook-posts/importing-baby-formula-us-allowed-albeit-uncommon/
Trump had nothing to do with baby formula shortages, what are you talking about? Trudeau is a weak leader and shell of a wannabe “The man with no name” High Plains Drifter. Unfortunately, he most resembles Walter Mondale as a Tank Commander, Joe Biden as President, and John Kerry as a Professional windsurfer. Weak habenero saucey.
Pretty much same formula for Enfamil is used in Ensure. It’s the baby boomers taking food from babies mouths! I’d be willing Pelosi, Schumer, Warren, Biden, Feinstein and the rest of the old boomer creeps in office aren’t having problems getting their nutrients!
Keep pounding the truth out! It seems some folks skipped the 6th grade 1984, Frankenstein, and Lord of the Flies reading assignments and cribbed the notes for the oral report. Their loss. Our gain. Knowledge is nirvana, government statist fake news disinformation is for the gullible and weak minded. Hang loose and ten over.
Ignorance and Apathy at this level is dangerous.
Maybe the Gates foundation tells enough truth to clue those who can take a hint.
It’s so much easier to let them exterminate the believers
It’s all in the eye LL, the pronunciation thing, let’s all say it together:
ill-Lu-Meh-Naughty.
Shh you’re not supposed to say the quiet part out loud… Joe Biden did that!
Wrong.
plural noun, singular il·lu·mi·na·to [ih-loo-muh-nah-toh, -ney-
No, he’s Lou Monadi. If he was sick he’d be an ill Lou Monadi.
Leo Zagami
“When it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger and the world will be stronger and less reliant
on fossil fuels when this is over.””
-Joe Biden
Ala “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”…
Less reliant?
Or simply, less will be reliant?
Half as many driver’s paying twice as much per gallon…
Alf will no longer be able to afford to drive.
The profit actually increases because fuel taxes and road taxes will only apply to half as many gallons.
State coffers will suffer.
Authoritarian leftists tell those that can’t afford energy they’ve made unaffordable “let them walk, ride their bike, or take the bus, it’s healthy for them!”
Joe Biden did that!
Meanwhile Biden whips around in Air Force 1, polluting as he goes. Hell he’s not buying the fuel, we are
Sounds green new deal “ish” to me. This was the plan from day one
My you’re clever.
I gotta admit I could have never put that one together
We will never see lower gas prices. The current administration is doing its best forcing the public to go electric before our electric grid can handle it. Makes sense.
“poor kids are just as smart as white kids.”
“You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. And I’m not joking,”
“I mean, you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean,”
-Joe Biden
Start with a boy. Take away his father. Sit him in front of a screen all day. Feed him porn. Feed him an endless stream of content. Give him no moral formation. No guidance. No companionship. Give him drugs. Isolate him.
That’s how you make a school shooter. Rinse and repeat.
You forgot the part about handing him his phone bill after he turns 18.
Or just give them antidepressants or other psychotropic drugs.
And the Great Divider in Chief speaks! Although it’s a tone deaf tweet.
sickening
Disgraceful
What’s “May Isis Bless Us!” about when their actions show they mean to destroy America, like Joe Biden’s actions show?
I think (hope) he was talking about the goddess of fertility and motherhood… however this is confusing as well due to the fact that he supports murdering unborn children
You got it ,unlike some. Egyptian goddess.
Not ISIS..
Keep trying grey fox, there are still at least a couple that you haven’t refered to specifically yet…
You’re not giving up until you have mentioned every one, in every way, are you?
Don’t be a quitter!
Almighty Horus!
What are you talking about?
🤔🧐You’re getting “colder”😅😂🤣😁
Keep trying!!!
Moloch.
The liberals in this country worship at the altar of child sacrifice.
1300 abortions daily.
But lets freak out over a school shooting.
Maybe the shooter could have killed those kids with a forceps. Then the left would support it as late term abortions.
Dem’s attack on our Constitutional rights won’t save lives – it’ll take effective mental health professionals doing their job, screening and red flagging those disturbed people that shouldn’t be allowed to purchase guns. Why aren’t they held liable when they fail at their job and allow predators loose on society? And why didn’t Facebook warn local officials when the Texas shooter posted on their website that he was going to the elementary school with evil intent? They have automated processes to censor free speech but can’t implement automated processes to head off psycho killers?
It was never about human lives, only about winning elections
Dancing on graves.
Trump, Cruz Headlining the NRA’s Texas Conference This Weekend. For the Gun Lobby, It’s Déjà-Vu.
The parallels to Columbine and how the NRA decided to keep its annual meeting at the time are uniquely American and gruesome.
NRA Sets 1,000 Killed In School Shooting As Amount It Would Take For Them To Reconsider Much Of Anything
Here’s hoping you never experience a home invasion.
Yes, I really need two AK-47’s with high capacity magazines like Ramos had to protect my home..
That’s a goddamned lie. Ramos had an, as in single, AR15. Not an AK-47. If you don’t know the difference, pound sand.
Right, he had two AR15’s. One of which he took into the school and killed 19 children and two teachers.
Agreed. The young man purchased two AR-15 rifles within days of each other. Legally. And a background check was done each time. Funny, the politicians keep whining about “Universal Background checks” and those are already in place. Several gun shows in several states I’ve attended recently have background checks for ANY firearm purchase.
Background checks are already in place. I don’t get why they repeat that like it’s not happening.
Unfortunately, I don’t have an answer for what may make someone buy a firearm and shoot up an unprotected school, grocery store or venue. But I do know the 2nd Amendment protects yours and my right to arm ourselves, if we so choose. The crimes committed by the few do not override the rights of the many.
Are any of the politicians calling for gun confiscation going to give up their security details, give up their armored rides, take down their walls, and turn in their guns?
Can you name one?
Truth 👍🏻
Want to hear something really funny: attendee’s at Trumps’s big Friday NRA speech won’t be allowed to pack. Yep, all the trained conceal carry nutz can’t attend with their faux swinging deek. Hilarious. Should be the safest place in the world, if one believes the the gun-packer crowd.
I think they should all be allowed to pack at Donny’s NRA event. Then somebody should light a firecracker and duck as circular firing squad commences tween all the trigger-happy magamen. Do the country some good.
That is pretty funny. Thanks for the laugh
I’m trained and I carry. I love carrying a concealed firearm at the co-op. I know the hemp fiber clothed granola eaters would shit themselves if they knew. But I’m happy being armed in their unarmed presence.
Misinformation! Disinformation!
Misleading! Red Alert! Red Alert!
Sound Familiar?
High capacity is a misnomer. The firearm was designed to operate with a 30 round magazine; therefore, it’s a standard capacity magazine. Same for the AR 15.
There are 15 states that experience higher rates of home invasion robbery than California. All but 1 are Republican run states that have fewer restrictions on gun ownership than California.
Did you ever have a 340ish pound pissed off bear
charge you?
The sound of a gunshot will show you their booty instead of their teeth, and it’s a mighty good site to see him in retreat.
Did I say anything about gun confiscation? I owned guns. An army issue 45,, a Ruger 10-22 for varmints, an old 3 shot 410 that I used to kill our hogs with. They make 410 slug shells. One shot that hog was down.
Would have made a good home invasion weapon.
A Ruger 10-22 is a semi-automatic weapon with a cyclic rate of fire very similar to an AR-15 and the caliber is very similar to .223 as well, although lighter grain. (55 and 40, respectively). There are magazines and drums that increase the magazine capacity available for 10-22.
Ruger Mini 14 is also semi-auto and uses same ammunition as many AR-15’s.
Curious if the government will try to ban the “scary” looking guns again as they did in the 90’s and those of us that shoot just bought and shot the ones they ignored because their propaganda arm…errr! the MSM didn’t show them pictures of the many other common semi automatic fire arms.
There’s a school of thought that says BECAUSE the government put a ban on AR-15 and AK-47 in the 90’s and the law was allowed to sunset 10 years later, millions of people rushed out to buy the guns that were previously banned. The government itself is the best marketing tool the gun manufacturers have and they don’t have to pay a dime for that marketing.
Food for thought:
“The K-12 School Shooting Database shows that California has had the highest number of school shootings since 1970, with 158.“
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/school-shootings-by-state
California also ranks highest for mass shootings (257) from 2013 through august 2019.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/mass-shootings-by-state
California is also the largest state by far with the most schools and colleges. Try comparing the number per capita and get back to me.
How is that possible when California has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation? But then again, so does Illinois, where murders are ramapant in Lori Lightfoot’s Chicago.
Don’t forget that those stats include “mass shootings” where Bloods attack Crips, Crackers attack Aryans, Nortes attack MS13, etc. Not exactly an accurate accounting.
I provided 2 links- first one was school shootings, second one was mass shootings
UKRAINE is modern day theater of modern urban warfare.
Hope for the best, Prepare for this country to become a 1st world target for destruction.
Let’s see how liberal college degree helps when society collapses.
Concealed Carry,
You are using my material, AGAIN.
( We’ve talked about this)
That’s Fauci on how to stop the spread of monkeypox, and how it started…
I posted it days ago…
Hmmm. Looks a little too coincidental…
Anubis!
. Your material? You created that mime? Or did you lift it from a website?
Oh great guru and conissieur of satire, don’t you recognize satire when you see it, hear it, or speak it?
Do you not see the truth in it?🧅😢
And yes, you obviously are using my material. Use your imagination, not mine.
( You are forgetting to mention a couple of lesser gods)
Always the excuses. And the spin. Another of the reasons I have no respect for you. Why should I copy anything you do? I don’t even like you.
I don’t care. I’m trying to help you.
It’s my mission in life, to help other people. The stray sheep, etc…
What, you can’t take a joke, either?
Your constantly playing jokes on people.
Your so serious, lighten up!
There is help available…
*www.easiertodishitoutthantotakeit.com
Now how about those two other gods you missed, I gave you enough info to narrow it way, way, down… To the letter even…
Well the feeling is mutual, to say the least.
1300 abortions daily in the US.
Do you still care about children?
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
UVALDE, TX—In the hours following a violent rampage in Texas in which a lone attacker killed at least 21 individuals and injured several others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them” said one Idaho resident. Kathy Miller.
https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668
🤔🧐”Fiercely decries misinformation”…
“Links to”…, “The Onion”…
You can’t make this stuff up folks…
Actually , The Onion speaks more truth than a lot of the BS on here.
Hunter Biden Laptop Whistleblower Sues Schiff, CNN, the Daily Beast, Politico
The Delaware computer repairman who alerted authorities to the existence of Hunter Biden’s laptop sued on Tuesday Democratic Representative Adam Schiff, CNN, the Daily Beast and Politico, claiming that he suffered financial and reputational damage after they alleged that the leak was Russian disinformation.
“After fighting to reveal the truth, all I want now is for the rest of the country to know that there was a collective and orchestrated effort by social and mainstream media to block a real story with real consequences for the nation,” Mac Isaac told the Post.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-whistleblower-sues-schiff-cnn-the-daily-beast-politico/
the Daily Beast has already settled.
Yes ma’am.
You can tell that mostly by how the
quoted citizen, on an article about Texas, is from Idaho… Right?
Satire matters for more than one reason, but its main goal is to raise people’s awareness about the current state of affairs and to challenge their viewpoints by using humor and irony. It helps us confront the unpleasant reality and see the world as it is, so that we can improve it.
Paradoxically, satire often masks in order to unmask. It exaggerates in order to point to the real size of the problems that need to be dealt with. It amuses us, but it also educates us.
The truth is there..
Satire and irony are the only weapons available to a civilized person.
Unknown Ca. ??
Yes and as shown here it’s highly effective.
Much more effective than constant cyber bullying, which is not effective at all. A nation wide problem.
A study showed that men cyber bullies are more likely to be unsure of their sexuality, or suffer from impotence, have a need to control, and are prone to conspiracy theories.
They are easy to spot.
So, you’ve shifted from cyber bullying to quoting satire???
Smart move.
Your credibility could only improve…
Like I said, I had you figured out a looooong time ago.
Yep, AFTER I mentioned that I had you figured out… Soooo original… Not.
Typical.
Just more attempted plagiarism.
So, what your saying is…
It’s really Bullshit…
But, as long as it’s your Bullshit…
It really isn’t Bullshit…
(Par for the course)
Makes perfect sense…
I don’t think so. It’s satire. 100%
Your comment is just more satire.
💯
Yep, very true!
That’s what the cops in Uvalde must have all been saying amongst themselves, for an hour before they tried to do anything to stop Ramos…
“No way to prevent this”…
Just like you said…
The Onion has posted this same headline after 21 school shootings.
At this point it’s less satire than simple observation.
👍 This days issue devoted to the shootings.
Maybe if the atf were paying attention to gun purchases instead of focusing on parents speaking out at school board meetings (at the direction of Merrick Garland) they might have noticed an Hispanic individual with no known history of mental illness and no red flags purchasing an AR-15 on his birthday…
Or maybe not?
See, background checks are already in place in the US. Can’t ban the guns unless the 2nd amendment is overruled by another amendment. That’s not going to happen, so what is your solution as opposed to your snivel?
And this is Biden’s National Security Advisor, Lead Liar on our Ukraine policy? Boy oh boy, Biden really knows how to pick keepers.
“This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow. Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank,” Jake Sullivan released in a statement on November 1, 2016. “This secret hotline may be the key to unlocking the mystery of Trump’s ties to Russia. It certainly seems the Trump Organization felt it had something to hide, given that it apparently took steps to conceal the link when it was discovered by journalists.”
Is this one of Joe’s puppetmasters, running our country?
Joe Biden did that!
All of these comments and not one on-topic. Which is, for those with short attention spans or reading comprehension issues:
1 Death, 5 New Hospitalizations, 384 New Cases During Past Seven-Day Period
It seems this isn’t over.
Nope, looks like it is ramping back up into another summer surge. And for those wondering, the Omicron BA.2 variant that seems to be the dominant one appears to cause more symptoms than previous variants.
I’m back to wearing filtration masks when inside in public.
BA.4 and BA.5, two new Omicron variants sweeping South Africa, detected in U.S.
The new variants are thought to be more infectious than stealth Omicron and perhaps able to evade immunity, some experts say
Unlike in earlier waves of the pandemic that were marked by defined limitations on what people could do and how businesses could operate, officials have not demonstrated an appetite for renewed restrictions, unless hospitalizations dramatically worsen.
But it’s still important for residents to take action to reduce their infection risk, experts say — both to avoid potentially serious health consequences and reduce the chance of contracting long COVID, in which symptoms of illness, including fatigue and brain fog, can persist for months or years
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccines-offer-little-protection-long-covid-study-finds-rcna30467
Don’t bother getting your hopes up of vaccination preventing long COVID…
The protection ain’t looking good…
Don’t kid yourself.
That’s great for you. Please exercise your freedom of choice.
Easy to pick you out of a crowd.
The mask fools!
“It seems this isn’t over.”
No shit Sherlock! Keep sticking needles in your arm for a virus that was ten variants ago and it’ll never be over!
high vaxx, high case – by el gato malo – bad cattitude (substack.com)
Better shut the schools down again, cancel all events, everyone work from home. Hopefully the third booster will stop people in their 80s from dying of respiratory viruses!
The Anti-Vaccine Movement’s New Frontier
A wave of parents has been radicalized by Covid-era misinformation to reject ordinary childhood immunizations — with potentially lethal consequences
Get a load of this vaccinated hospitalizations graph for this week, it’s no wonder Kym is not including the link to the shit dashboard, it’s useless.
I did get a screenshot, somehow from the link on loco that is barely working, and then just crashes.
Looks like 10 vaccinated hospitalizations only for the last 8 straight weeks reported…
100% vaccinated hospitalizations for 8 weeks…
(10 out of 10)
Now that’s what I call a “potentially lethal consequence”
https://aflds.org/about-us/issue-briefs/issue-brief-california-assembly-bill-2098/
WOW: California Assembly Bill 2098 seeks to control doctors’ speech and professional opinions, by expanding State power to discipline those who don’t comply with their narrative.
California is turning tyrannical.
Indeed, public health should have been more cautious before trumpeting the PR claims of manufacturers as if they were valid scientific conclusions!
Now a whole lot more people are deeply skeptical of pharmaceutical companies and their apparent lackies in departments of public health from local to federal levels. If only these public servants hadn’t been hell bent on pushing misinformation like 95% efficacy against infection perhaps there would still be some public trust left
No one cares. Even the DHHs website crashes if you try to find info on COVID, so the health department and county government don’t give two shits, either. Curious why they don’t post numbers for the common cold or influenza weekly. Those are endemic as well. Why should COVID get special attention?
Lucky to make it to 80 and over, then things happen but “with covid” or “because of covid”?
Yes. An 80 year old dies. Tragic.
Everyone lock down!
Get out you Fauci masks!
Do what you’re told!
Blah blah blah, Biden this (my life is empty) Biden did that, blah blah blah.
Yes everything is Biden’s fault. Next thing you know he will get blamed for the Texas school shootings.
Nah. Biden can’t find his ass with both hands. No way he’s going to find a gun and shoot something up. But his handlers fell all over themselves getting him to Buffalo to speak because a white man shot, gasp, black folks! Curious if Biden will do a presser in Uvalde because a Hispanic shot up a predominately Hispanic school. Will a presser for Hispanic murders provide the same optics for the Democrats as a racist, leftist white man shooting up a grocery store in a predominantly black neighborhood?
I’m surprised your not blaming trump for the school shootings. I mean he’s only been out of office for 16 months. The inflation, baby formula etc. is all his fault right?
“I’m surprised your not blaming trump for the school shootings”
Give it a minute, TDS is alive and well.
https://theinfowar.tv/watch?id=629154aa33b70327655fbef1
Bombshell
I think the vaccination status of the individuals hospitalized is relevant and of interest in these reports.
Except the link to the dashboard is no longer included, after being 100% vaccinated hospitalizations for the last 8 reported hospitalizations by vax status, which occured over 6 weeks…
What is up with that?
Now you see it, now you don’t???
I’m curious if the trend continued, or what???
Kym, What happened to the link to the already difficult to access dashboard ?
I wonder if it is also missing from loco?
Ms Kemp is in on the conspiracy to deprive you of information. And HDPH purposely slows the site down when you try to access it. They have your IP address. It works fine for me. Of course my son works there as an IT tech so that helps.
Sounds Irish.
So we saw when the efficacy against infection went negative, now it seems that efficacy against hospitalization is negative. How long until efficacy against fatal infection is negative?
I’ve been on wondering the same thing myself… There may be a lag time involved… A month or two? 6 weeks?
But what is interesting, is that the COVID death graph for the approximate correlative time frame, shows only unvaccinated deaths…???
I had to ask myself, how could their be only unvaccinated deaths, yet at the same time, only vaccinated hospitalizations???
Because that would suggest that the unvaccinated deaths, were not hospitalized first?
But then it occured to me, that there would be a lag time from hospitalizations to deaths…
I tried to take a screenshot of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated deaths graph, but the dashboard wouldn’t cooperate with that…
Will try again…
Here is the corresponding graph for COVID-19 deaths…
Logically, unless all of these vaccinated hospitalizations survive, we would be approaching a period of only vaccinated deaths, or at least the vast majority of them…
Or for some unexplained reason, unvaccinated deaths aren’t being hospitalized first…
I see now, that the unvaccinated deaths are coming from the time period that there was a mixture of vaxxed and unvaxxed hospitalizations.🤷♂️🤦♂️
Don’t worry, once it’s only vaccinated people dying of covid the state will likely stop tracking that information and the proponents of maximum vaccination will likely lean on the excuse that it’s only elderly people dying anyway.
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When will it ever stop?????
The Onion explained that.
What. .? We could simply say that post term abortion isn’t murder either. War crimes against humanity haa nothing to do with the war machine. War isn’t about fighting evil, it’s about consolidation of power. We gotta do better with the brain they’ve given us.
The $53,000,000,000 we sent to Ukraine would secure all 130000 K-12 schools.
$400,000 per school.
American children….first!
No way! We’ve got to fund proxy wars to feed the military industrial complex. Don’t you know how important that is?
When they get as serious about security for schools as they do for tourists flooding the capital on 1/6/21 and as they are for the Supreme Court. Neither of which has had an active shooter, other than the trigger-happy cop who shot unarmed Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt. May God have mercy on her soul.
“Say Her Name!”
The new Congress will subpoena Pelosi and we’ll finally hear why she didn’t provide security for the Capitol and about all the ensuing cover up. The murderous Capitol cop likely already took a fat early medical (mental) retirement
The inanity of that argument that lawlessness can be channelled to be used for good only keeps the cycle of violence increasing. One side argues that violence such as destructive protesting, rioting, looting, squatting, drug use, fraud, rap or theft is a tolerated response to social ills perpetrated against anyone and another group argues that guns don’t kill people- people kill people. But both ends of the spectrum meet in one place- they one common attitude- that they decide they personally have the right to choose what laws to obey and what laws to disregard and any problems that occur are due to someone else. And keep making more and more laws and not enforcing them.
Well hello- life does not work like that. Cultivating a personal choice attitude about laws makes them subject to any old interpretation. Deliberate consistent contempt for some laws opens all laws to subjective evaluation and the stupidity of that soon should be clear. A crazed hormone mind ridden young man soon learns to focus all his angst on those who he thinks caused his problems. He has or can get a gun, which law or not, this country is awash in and has no respect for any law to give him pause. He dreams in violence because he lives in a culture that not only accepts violence and lawlessness but idolizes it. Idolized it in the name of culture by both left and right. So what does he do? Why takes his gun to the place he has problems and uses it- the school. The left wing is just as responsible for that result as the right.
The left will not check violence entering from crime, the borders, from media, homelessness or drug abuse. It wallows in blame and criticism. Then it expects that, having made everyone ever read to be angry, expects to eliminate weapons in a world that has lost respect for law. Hah!
Luv social media, herd of same-vein posters show up all at once, all at party together in its head.
Don’t lactate, vaccinate.
Tucker-Putin ‘24!
We didn’t have a baby formula shortage until men started getting pregnant
Ewww!!!
1st quarter GDP shrank 1.5%, 2nd quarter reported in couple months good chance official start of Biden’s Recession.
Joe Biden did that!
The next U.S. abortion battle is over pills, and it’s already begun.
One of the next legal battles has already begun in a Mississippi court.
That is where the manufacturer of a pill used to carry out medication abortions, Las Vegas-based GenBioPro Inc, has filed a federal lawsuit challenging the conservative state’s restrictions on the pill, used in more than half of all U.S. abortions.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/next-us-abortion-battle-is-over-pills-its-already-begun-2022-05-26/
It’s clearly a poison pill. P.O.I.S.O.N.☠️☠️☠️
How could the FDA or anyone else, approve of a poison pill?
It’s contraindicated to life itself.
What part of “poison” don’t you understand?
It kills.
What? Do you think it’s a fucking laxative?
A diuretic?
An emetic?
I guess if the idea of “The Prostitution State” based manufacturer of the “abortion pill” doesn’t sicken you, nothing will.
With friends like you, who needs emetics?
Another problem that needs to be addressed.
In middle school and junior high, Ramos was bullied for having a stutter and a strong lisp, friends and family said.
Stephen Garcia, who considered himself Ramos’s best friend in eighth grade, said Ramos didn’t have it easy in school. “He would get bullied hard, like bullied by a lot of people,” Garcia said. “Over social media, over gaming, over everything.
Bullying is a big problem, in schools, on the internet. Children learn from their parents and peers, we need to make sure they are educated about bullying, and the harm it can cause to others. I see it all the time on here. People hiding behind their anonymity. You get a good gauge of Americas mental health problems just by reading some of the comments you see online.
Schumer blocks GOP School Safety bill. Seems Democrat leadership* are less concerned with school safety than they are about taking constitutional rights away from Americans. Creepy Chuck wants our guns.
Everybody is looking for love and acceptance, mostly in the wrong places.
“All’s you need is Love”
What needs to be addressed is the fact that the psyche meds that they hand out like candy, are probably triggering these people…
I see a very long list of school shootings…
Cross reference those shooters with their medical records to see if their is a pattern of a correlation to psyche med prescription use and homicidal behaviour.
Simple.
I’d put money on it.
Psyche meds are not the panacea they are all cracked up to be, and represented as.
People think that these disasters are because there people aren’t given psyche meds.
That couldn’t be farther from the truth.
These mass shootings, I would wager, is precisely because they have been given psyche meds, and then they either snap while they are taking them, or snap because they stop taking them, but most likely never would have snapped if they were never given the psyche meds in the first place.
that’s what tucker said without doing any investigation. i am sure FOX regrets the timing of the incident and tucker’s live time slot. you do understand that they test the blood of the shooter for drugs live or dead. take a wild guess whether the data supports tucker’s claim or not. i guess you could google it before guessing.
I don’t know what tuckers claim was, and I already guessed.
Who’s data, and how long do you think that psyche meds stay detectable “in the system”
And why don’t you just spit it out for goodness sake???
What on Earth are you trying to say?
Stop speaking in riddles man!
Your starting to remind me of Jimmy Hoffa!
( Riddle was his middle name)…😅😂😁
Tucker? Fox? By all the gods! Has Guest gone over to the dark side. What’s next, campaigning for rep. Greene? Maybe his name is really Guess.
Did I miss something? Was Ramos on psyche drugs?
You tell me, grey fox.
Did you miss the point?
I said check it for a correlation.
Do you remember Aaron Bassler?
Do you remember his story?
Are you aware of the homicidal and suicidal side effects of psyche meds?
Of course you will dispute it.
Par for the course.
Did you figure out the gods you have missed so far yet?
🤔🧐You were so close, too….🤷♂️🤦♂️
Lucifer’s Pitchfork!
Calm down. I just asked a simple question.
🤔🧐Baby steps grey fox, you strode right by…😉 You jumped right over the “heat”, to an equally “cool” spot as before… That should narrow it down quite a bit. You actually already mentioned one, just in “Greek”, instead of “Roman”…( I hope I got that right.)
One “expression” is maybe a little more common than the other.
I remember my mother using one, probably because my grandfather was 100% Italian…
More hints you say?
You might not want to offend these gods.
🤔🧐(No, that’s not a hint…)😁
These are…
Both gods begin with the same letter, (8 points), (English spelling), one god has one syllable, and the other has three…
And both expressions begin with a synonym of “near”, and/or more appropriately, “from”
That it, no more hints…
(You must not be much Italian, or these probably would have already occured to you…)
I have an unfair advantage.
I would have already just told you, but for me, that is not advisable.
Try answering one once in a while.
🤔🧐Dig, grey fox, dig…
It’s down there somewhere, use your nose! Don’t give up so easy!👃😅😂🤣😁
“The suspect had no known mental health history, Abbott said.” CNN. which can be translated to no history of prescriptions for psyche meds currently or historical.
I didn’t say he necessarily did.
And no known mental health history means only that. Unknown.
He could have been self medicating, and/or, it is probably not that uncommon for a caregiver or family member, to provide, or dose others with, to make them more “manageable”.
Sometimes they do it all Willie-Nillie, on again off again, as “needed”, as they perceive it, playing doctor or psychiatrist on others, with their own meds.
A recipe for disaster. A dangerous game.
It’s something that I associate with the greatest of offenses.
I know for a fact it happens…
We know school closures and social isolation instigated by Fauci and the teacher’s union harmed the mental health of our youth but were they the “straw that broke the camel’s back” in Texas without which the TX massacre would have been avoided? It’s always one last thing that’s too much and with Fauci and unions total, selfish disregard for our youth’s mental health it’s entirely conceivable they’re responsible for Uvalde and Buffalo. And mental health professionals? Are we going to hear an apology from any of them? I doubt it, holier than thou lefties never have the humility to apologize when they’re responsible for shit hitting the fan.
Isis (Egyptian goddess) give him wisdom!
Holier than thou? Its the right that’s always saying “God is on our side”
Blame for things can be spread to both sides of the aisle. You think this was the first mass shooting?
Thor’s Hammer!
incidents while Trump was in office:
In November 2017, 26 people were killed at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.
In February 2018, 17 people were killed at a high school in Parkland, Florida.
In May 2018, 10 people were killed at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas.
In October 2018, 11 people were killed at a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
In November 2018, 12 people were killed at a restaurant in Thousand Oaks, California.
In May 2019, 12 people were shot and killed at an office building in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
In August 2019, 22 people were killed at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas
To be fair, I believe there were 24 under Obama. But mass shooting go back to the Johnson era.
And like The Onion said, “there is just nothing we can do about it”
Domestic Mass Shooters: The Association With Unmedicated and Untreated Psychiatric Illness.
A study done on shooters between 1/82 and 10/19
Conclusions: A significant proportion of mass shooters experienced unmedicated and untreated psychiatric disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34102649/
A man with a gun may be either a source of safety or a deadly threat. The determining factor is his character and state of mind.
It’s understandable why some, in the aftermath of a shooting, will ask, “Why are there so many guns in so many hands?” But I think the far more important question is this: “Why are there so many young men suffering from depression, depravity, and derangement?”
Your right, something is wrong and has been for a long time. Wish I knew the answer.
Look in the mirror. The ideology you advocate is at the root of the problem, congratulations. The ever growing government requires more and more resources. Both parents work longer and longer hours to feed the pig that is government, with no time left over for raising children who then turn out fucked up and learn from government schools to blame the “free market” for government created problems. Hittin close to home?
That is why imbeciles reflexively blame inflation on “greedy corporations” and are too stupid to understand that printing money to pay for everything ALWAYS ends this way. Had they been learning history in gov schools instead of learning that men are actually women, they would understand the root of this growing cancer.
Good point. Social media, big factor, the young male punks. And the mental health angle, ever present. Combination of background checks, mandatory mental-health pre-screening, and 8 hrs of community service in a gunshot-trauma ward should be required to buy a gun. MAGA: Make America Gunsafe America. Let’s get to work.
What’s interesting about that study is they only studied 35 out of 115 shooters, the others died during their rampage or shortly thereafter, and out of the remaining 35 they conclude a majority of them, (???) 28, had whatever issues…
So, a majority of the vast minority of them?
That isn’t very convincing, 80 out of 115, (over 71% of them) didn’t even live to tell the tale…
28 of 115 had issues.
24.3%
Hardly conclusive.
I in 4 people have mental illness.
That’s 25%.
Here’s the same link as grey foxes. He will want credit.
But, I prefer clicking my own links….
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34102649/
May Psyche Bless Us!
If you haven’t already you should read the other article. They make some good points..Why aren’t their more women mass shooters? They take psych meds. Ratio of people that that take psych meds to shooters.
I see part of the problem. I post an article,you take it as a personal dig to you. It’s not always about you. I merely posted articles about the subject. I personally don’t know if there is a correlation. I am not going to speculate on causes. Al I know is that these shooting are so fucking sad it’s enough to make a grown man cry.
That’s true, it’s beyond sad. I read a passel of them, read this one, I better be careful… The People that claim a connection to psyche meds end up dead…
Imagine that…
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20210225/mental-illness-not-a-factor-in-most-mass-shootings.
Stigma sucks.
I did notice that you did not take a personal stance, but it was a link opposite of my contention…
I guess I found that to be a little contentious.
The other interesting thing I found about the study that we both linked to,besides the obviously questionable conclusion that somehow 28 is a majority of 115, is that there were no “limitations” mentioned, as if it was in no possible way even a little flawed, even in theory.
Not very realistic, if you ask me…
I see part of the problem too, if you can give anybody the same credit, and that is that you take things a little too personally yourself sometimes… but not always…
And when I post one of my own theories, not just an article from someone else you have been a little to hasty to dispute it.
I put a lot more thought into my theories and “predictive projections” than you might imagine. And I don’t often just throw something out there that I haven’t put some serious thought into. (It happens)…
I’ve learned, from Kym mostly, that if someone make a statement that doesn’t make sense to me, I better be careful to do my homework, before I dispute it…🤷♂️ Or else🤦♂️… Yarmulke nosh time.
I do have a Costco sized 35 case of cokes, at the ready, just in case, but am currently fresh out of yarmulkes. (Nobody’s perfect).
I knew better than to dispute the 46 mile post, 34 or there about Avenue of the Giants, with a CalTrans family member…
But I foolishly did it anyway.
Kym was very graceful about it also.
Two lessons in one.
(Hat tip)
Here is another good article on the subject.
What’s behind the dubious claim that psychiatric drugs fuel mass shootings
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/aug/16/whats-behind-dubious-claim-psychiatric-drugs-fuel-/
Jesus wept!
Have we become so used to these shooting we don’t even really mention that 19 children died for no reason. . And I am just as guilty. The heartache the parents are going thru. All those wasted lives.
And we just jump right in to guns, causes, things about Ramos.
What a fucking tragedy…
My heart goes out to those children and all affected.
Well said grey fox, a good example…
I was noticing that as well about myself… I definitely glossed over the real tragedy… I need to pause and reflect on that l suppose… These were children, a lot of them, and also others, and the injured, including the officer.
It’s awful, and unimaginable.
How could I be so callous?
The “grief wheel” turns on an unsure path…
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction…
Hear, hear, grey fox… may the Lord bless the parents and family of the deceased and keep them all in His warm embrace.
The nation is mourning.
Only 24% of Dems and 18% of Independents are satisfied with the direction. Joe Biden with his radical progressive agenda has single handedly destroyed the Democrat party handing our country to conservative governance for many years to come, if we can survive the damage he’s done. That’s a big IF.
Joe Biden did that!
By his policies Biden is clearly following the old commie axiom:
“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”
Joe Biden did that!
Former President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia Charles Plosser, like Obama economic czar Larry Summers, says the origins of Bidenflation aren’t the pandemic, supply chain issues, corporate greed, or the Ukraine War but plain and simple the wreckless monetary and fiscal policies of the Biden Administration, Biden’s $1.9T American Rescue Plan was gasoline on an already red-hot American economy that caused inflation to explode (why it’s called Bidenflation). The only means to correct Biden’s catastrophic error is to raise interest rates substantially triggering the Biden Recession, even Biden’s Stagflation, and hundreds of billions of annual interest expense on our national debt. What’s Joe’s answer? More massive deficit spending. Biden’s War on Fossil Fuels and his radical progressive agenda is destroying America and he must be stopped at the midterms and held accountable in January 2023 Congressional oversight hearings
Joe Biden did that!
Yet Biden does nothing to help with the crisis he’s created. First and foremost we need Warp Speed energy independence. Joe, can you focus and simply get that done or will you need to be impeached for your treasonous destruction of America? What did he say, “let them drive an electric car (or take the bus)!”
Joe Biden did that!
CNN reporting yesterday that Biden’s Recession this year is inevitable. OMG, elections do have consequences and Blundering Biden really f***ed us.
Joe Biden did that!
Does the tech stock crash mean an end to California’s budget surplus? Shouldn’t we be saving for the inevitable “rainy day” instead of spending like drunken sailors on the Prog wish list?
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Remember Benghazi and Susan Rice’s line of crap on the Sunday talk shows? Yeah, appropriate the our Liar-in-Chief Joe Biden has appointed a documented liar to push his unconstitutional gun grab agenda rather than talking about rampant unaddressed mental health and school safety issues. And did you see the cops remained outside the classroom for an hour while the killing continued? What happened to run towards danger to save lives? And a teacher propped the previously secured door open just a few minutes before killer arrived? So many questions and so many personal failures for so many to live with, if they can.
Our poor Befuddled Biden the Liar-in-Chief even lies to Annapolis graduates: “I’ve been in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan of over 40 I think 38 times,” the president said.
A spokesperson for Biden’s National Security Council (NSC) said Friday the correct number of times Biden visited Iraq and Afghanistan is 21.
Someone tell Jill, this is elder abuse! Yup, Joe Biden sadly did that too!
“In” Iraq and Afghanistan 21 times… And…
“Out” of Iraq and Afghanistan 21 times…
“In” and “out” of Iraq and Afghanistan?
🤔🧐21 + 21 = 42 times.😁
“Alternate facts”… LOL.
Panties in a bunch? Joe Biden did that!
Those girls aren’t old enough to be reading these comments though
Brace yourself friends, Biden’s Blackouts are coming coast to coast this summer. That’s right, no lights or air conditioning unless you fire up (like many will) your gas fired home generator (does that help?). And did you know the proportion of coal generated electricity is actually higher as Biden’s War on Fossil Fuel has curtailed cleaner natural gas electricity production? That’s right, Joe Biden’s policies caused dirtier electricity, except of course when the electricity is out, Biden’s Blackouts, when, like a 3rd world country, Americans live sweating, overheated, in the dark. It’s a lot like Biden begging for oil from horribly dirty Venezuelan and Iranian production sources to then be transported in filthy tankers instead of from the cleanest source in the world, right under our feet near home, domestic fossil fuel producers and that’s for the good of our US economy, not autocratic dictatorships overseas. But Biden and his authoritarian leftists revel in these foreign autocrats, they have the absolute power Biden’s cabal desires, to suspend all our Constitutional rights and control every aspect of American lives. The midterms are the last chance to save our once great country, if it’s not already too late, so get out and vote then look forward to January oversight hearings when Americans will finally have the transparency we deserve, to understand how the puppetmasters behind the Crazy Uncle Joe facade have advanced their despotic agenda. Sadly, Blundering Biden did all that!
The 21…
Ahhh, grey fox,
Always so hasty…
Haven’t you heard?
Law enforcement chose to delay storming the school, as the children were dying, one by one…
Abbot says he is “livid”…
Where have I heard this scenario before?
Deja Vu?
Was their a jurisdictional conflict, as the border patrol pursued Ramos into the school?
Once he was in the school, did it become a local sheriff’s jurisdiction?
Did this cause a delay and resultant loss of life?
What caused the delay?
Trepidation?
Lack of leadership?
Do tell, grey fox.
Sounds like the cops were scared, shouldn’t have the fat job if they’re unwilling to step up when needed
Unfortunately, as with Firefighters, some of the undeserving cops’ true colors don’t come out for all to see, until the shit hits the fan, and they move, (or don’t move), to save their own skin, not the people who they are sworn to serve…
Sad, but true…
Human nature.
Yeah the school cop in Parkland (?) Florida was also out hiding behind his car when he needed to advance, confront shooter, and save kids. Bet he got a fat early retirement when he should’ve taken a long swim to London
You want to continue this unending back and forth with me, you go right ahead.
Just wondering if you had seen the update, that kind of changed the whole picture of what happened, and why.
You linked to satire that “nothing can be done”. And then you said that there was much truth in satire.
You may have been correct, unfortunately.
Sadly, the truth is, for an hour of killing, that the cops were aware of,
NOTHING WAS DONE!
The cops did nothing.
In this case, when it comes to satire, and not being able to do anything about mass shootings, it’s the cops that are the joke.
You list all of the victims.
Maybe list all of the not so brave cops,that didn’t do there jobs.
Would that list be longer than the list of victims?
Ramos is accused of mental illness.
What was wrong with the cops?
Self Preserving?
I’ve seen it in the fire service, it happens when shit gets real. That’s when people’s true colors come out. I’ve seen firefighters leave their partners hanging out to dry, while retreating to safety, not lifting a finger to assist their brave partner that rushes towards fire and danger, needing immediate assistance. I immediately helped that brave firefighter, as a civilian, in civilian clothes, while his partner dispicable took shelter and hid from the danger.
Not a good time to find this out about your partner…
These cops were yellow.
It’s dispicable.
That chicken firefighter probably kept his high paying job. ( He lost my respect)
Those cops?
They should be promptly terminated.
Cowards should be Publically humiliated then fired without pension, better than they did for the kids
You quote the onion saying “nothing can be done”…
Apparently, law enforcement agrees.
Maybe it’s their guns, that aren’t doing us any good???
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/texas-shooting-uvalde-school-police-response-1.6468355
“Before we nation-build the rest of the world, we should be building safe schools for our own children in our own nation,”
-Donald Trump
In his Friday NRA address, Trump doubled down on increased security at schools, then there was the mental health and culture issue by winger singer Cruz, et al.
Post-Columbine shooter events have shown that hardening schools more security, etc, doesn’t really work. And the Texas event, the shooter was surrounded by gobs of law enforcement for an hour as he banged away (so much for the “good guys with guns” argument, eh)
As to the mental health issue, when do the GOPers and magas start pumping big $$$ into mental health services, both in schools (to catch and help kids with issues, who can become shooters) and everywhere else. They won’t. Will take billion$ Nationwide to fund those who go into the psych, therapy, and social-work professions, and those mindful and caring people who do enter the field are center-left in orientation.
USA leads all countries in the world, by a long shot, in school shootings.
The troubling truth is, that as the cops have shown us, even if we “hire the professionals”, mental health professionals included, it’s unlikely that they will be in it for anyone’s benefit, other than their own.
It’s getting a little too slimy everywhere, and in every profession, when it comes to “where the rubber hits the road”.
Some badges need to be stripped, that is for sure!
And some retirement packages forfeited.
If you won’t go to bat, you need to be escorted out of the arena, sans jersey!
Anybody know what happens to soldiers if they pull that stunt?
True, the mental health “professionals” just chit chat, never act to prevent carnage, and submit their bill. They should be held liable for malpractice if they let one slip through.
Can mental health professionals report their patients, or is it like attorney client privilege?
Therapists do not have a good grasp on the way the mind works, the mind is still very much a mystery and therapy hasn’t changed much since Jung.
That pretty much leaves chit-chat and drugs.
Chit-chat can be helpful, but it certainly isn’t a cure all.
Even with attorney privilege they’re still obligated to report a planned future crime, just not historic information related to the crime they’re defending, at least that’s what they said on The Lincoln Lawyer
So then the maga-gop pols should stop whining about the mental health issue unless their willing to put up the big buck$ for schools and teachers.
The psych/therapy-in-schools concept is really about helping kids before they go astray.
Get up to speed.
Public schools have become such demonstrated failures that we need to at least equally support competitive educational models. The failed public schools are at least partially responsible for these monsters, along with Fauci’s school closures and social isolation that left the introverts to brood at home, alone except for company of weirdo websites (also contributed)
Ramos was bullied at school and over the internet long before Covid19.
There is a lot of incompetent quack mental health in professionals that don’t being doing what they are doing.
It can be a power trip, in a controlling position over other people, and there is a lot of abuse of authority, just like in law enforcement, or medical doctors.
I’m not even sure it would be a benefit in schools, if it’s overdone incompetently.
It could do a lot of harm…
Arm the teachers, pay them an extra $500 per month and require an annual or bi-annual gun safety course and certification?? Along with your mental health services suggestion? Which I wholeheartedly agree with btw
Arming teachers, not the best idea. Then there be a gun right there in the classroom all the time, for the teacher to always be distracted by (as opposed to teaching), and for somebody to make a grab at.
Isolation, violent music, violent movies, violent video’s, violent arguments in the home.
You will never own a home, you’re going to die from climate change, you’re a racist, there won’t be a good job for you, listen to schools not your parents.
Advertising, look what everyone has that you can’t afford, drugs, prescribed and street.
Covid lockdowns, cutting ties to family and friends. Parents stressed, not knowing if their job is going to be open or shutdown from one day to the next. And boys seeking attention from their fathers.
Look at the messages our young men are bombarded with 24/7. They are raised on sex, violence, disrespect for others, and images of things they can’t have, while surrounded by drug abuse.
And we wonder what’s wrong.
Is it healthy? Does it create sound minds?
“Look at the messages our young men are bombarded with 24/7. They are raised on sex, violence, disrespect for others…”
Yep. When will Trump stop?
You’ve been quite clear that you prefer the guy that sniffs and fondles children.
Rich fantasy life, invented stories by Rwingdinger msm.
Plus that assumes many or most teachers are going to be comfortable around guns and with confronting active shooters.
That isn’t the job they signed up for and we don’t pay them enough to deal with it. I’ve seen a lot of posts from a lot of teachers that state if you make them carry guns in school, they are quitting.
The proposal is Extra pay for those qualified to voluntarily carry a gun, not mandatory for all teachers
I respectful disagree, more armed good guys help when police (of questionable courage) are minutes away and then just stand around until the shooting stops, to stop the shooter early.
When will folks learn, that the solutions by politicians on the take for the gun-industry, and the gun industry itself, isn’t more guns. It’s a profoundly stupid idea.
And I respect your right to have a differing opinion than mine. Widespread gun ownership embodied in the 2nd Amendment was originally meant as a safeguard against a national standing army under control of a tyrannical central government threatening states and citizens, a threat more real in the present with the rise of the worldwide authoritarian leftist’s agenda than ever earlier in America’s history.
Joe Biden’s puppetmasters did that!
Actually it was right-wing militants involved in the Jan 6 insurrection . Not to mention Charlotte and Michigan . That’s where the danger lies.
Or just maybe it was left wing instigators, like in the Whitmer kidnapping case……..
Yet the very existence of those recordings and text conversations underscored defense lawyers’ theory of the case: that the supposed plot had been conceived and nudged ahead by a network of F.B.I. agents and informants who preyed on the worst instincts of their loose-lipped targets. The defense lawyers described the men on trial as big talkers who were never going to commit any kidnapping.
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Why is Nancy allowed to hide evidence?
Why does Nancy get to choose the representatives for the right?
There is no justification for that.
“Then there be a gun right there in the classroom all the time”
Oh lord, how scary! The gun might jump outta the teacher’s pants and start killing people all on its own.
“and for somebody to make a grab at.”
LOL. Yeah, because 7 year old’s are just like hardened prisoners at a Supermax, salivating, plotting, scheming, waiting for their opportunity to strike and break outta Ms.Jones class.
Oh, Rollin. Stop and think for more than a minute. Disturbed kids can start young. All that pro-militia and Jan6 garbage runs rampant amongst the maga online, which kids have easy access to on their phones. Don’t risk it, teachers getting sandbagged by Jr. wingdinger. Wouldn’t even need to bring a gun to school, gobs already handy in-class.
Oh … gotta run, Tucker’s on!
Yep, here’s what the Governor of Texas did just weeks before he said the shooter had mental health problems:
Gov. Greg Abbott said Wednesday that the Uvalde school shooter had a “mental health challenge” and the state needed to “do a better job with mental health” — yet in April he slashed $211 million from the department that oversees mental health programs. In addition, Texas ranked last out of all 50 states and the District of Columbia for overall access to mental health care, according to the 2021 State of Mental Health in America report. (Hixenbaugh and Siemaszko, 5/25)
Society needs to be healthy, instead of patching up one person at a time.
But that would mean everyone participated.
Apparently, Tim, it was the cops that were “mentally challenged”, and waited an hour after 911 calls from the school began pouring in, before they did jack shit, in the school where the shooter was.
Do you think it’s the cops that should do, and should have done, a better job?
How much more money have the cops been getting, to just let those school kids be murdered, while they twiddled their damn thumbs for an hour?
Is that where some of the $211 million dollar DHHS cut, including mental health money that Abbot cut went?
To the yellow cops?
And if so, just how much got obviously pissed away on them?
The mall cop more courageous than Uvalde school cops (at least in movies) .
Constitutional right to bear arms. Fine, let’s go back to the weapons used when that was written. Single shot black powder rifles and pistols.
How about this. Allow 3 shot rifles top or side loading, no magazines. Bolt or lever action. Hunter should just need one shot but in case. Same with shotguns, 3 shots. .Double barrel.
should be allowed I guess. Go back to revolvers ,the old six shooter. Or the derringer. Want to shoot assault rifles? Have ranges where people can rent guns, shoot away then turn them back in.
The most important part.
You get caught with an unlicensed or illegal gun, automatic 10 years.
Won’t stop shootings of course, but maybe we can slow things down, and avoid these mass shootings.
Nah!
If a pack of coyotes, or a pack of feral dogs, or a feral pet wolf hybrid, or a pack of wild pigs come through my curtilage, I want to kill them all, not just one at a time.
I don’t want them coming back.
A bolt action is too clumsy.
You say three?
I’m sot my friend, that’s not enough…
Let me give you a real life example…
Do you have lots of rattlesnakes in your neck of the woods?
I do.
I’ve killed 30 +
Most with a 12 guage pump action 18″ pistol grip “defender” loaded with low based, birdsized 7 1/2 or 8 shot, my preferred rattler weapon… Beats a shovel, my friend.
Here is how it went down.
Rattler in the garden sanctuary, a quick response to the gun cabinet, and back to the venomous, pit viper, intruder, top speed…
One miss, then one misfire, then it’s head and rattles vaporized, it’s coiled body now chunked into more manageable sections.
But that’s you’re recommended 3 shot limit, my friend, time to reload in your world, I want to be ready for that second misfire, or another miss, or that viper’s co-conspirator, without having to reload…
For home defense, I prefer at least five, if not seven.
Hunting is different. 3 should suffice for scattergun quarry.
Large game with a long gun?
3?
Sure, in a perfect world. And I respect your marksmanship and self control if it’s never taken you more than three shots to subdue an animal.
Not that it’s taken me more, very often.
Or that I can rightly remember that it has, more than about once…
I just don’t live in a perfect world, and I can think of instances, where clips of at least 5 or ten, would be in order.
Welcome to my world.
How the hell do you miss with a shotgun? And misfire? Need to buy better shells or take the weapon to a gunsmith. My old 3 shot 410 would have done a better job.
Cowboy up. Strap on a pair of six shooters, and a lever action 30.30. A double barrel shotgun with one shot is going to vaporize that snake.
Name me a home invasion that was stopped with an assault rifle. From what I have seen most burglars are shot with pistols.
Shaky? Winded? Poor eyesight?
Yes, and one rusty, pre dampened limited budget shell, I made sure that didn’t happen again… Gun was fine.
And like I said, it’s not home invasions that I’m most concerned with…
Pistols?
Haven’t heard of may three shot pistols for home defense?…
You mean like a derringer?
Not the best insurance…
Did I say 3 shot pistols? Believe I said six shooters. And derringers are deadly at close range. Fit right into a purse.
And instead of arguing with me over this, try offering solutions which is what I was doing. I am willing to listen to anyone that has a solution or an idea. Something needs to be done.
Enough debate we need real solutions and strong political will.
Who’s arguing?
MY bad, you said 3 shot rifles…
And as far as derringers, I’m fresh out of purses….
Shotguns are already limited to 3 shots for hunting…
And, I will pass on the hand cannon…
A .45 colt 1911 has always been on my wish list…
But, I need something with a bigger pattern… Something I can aim with just my ears…
For home defense, A 12 guage “defender”, with alternating high base loads, buckshot, slug, buckshot…, is hard to beat… Probably stop a bear…
That’s my point. The average citizen does not need an assault weapon or any semi automatic weapon, rifle or pistol for home defense or hunting. I offered a compromise to the NRA. That’s what we need, compromise and political will.
Sorry no Colt .45. Takes a clip. Go to the gun range check one out. Shoot to your heart’s content. Then turn it back in and go home happy.
Or get a .22 single action to shoot at tin cans. I had a Ruger single action .22 that was loads of fun. It’s fun, ammo is cheap. Pretend your at the OK Corral, practice your quick draw. Just don’t shoot yourself in the foot. And no I didn’t, but people have.
That’s where I guess we will have to agree to disagree. If somebody nefarious shows up to my place, with a semi auto, with a clip, I don’t want to be the guy with a single shot breech-loader, trying to defend my wife.
A double barrel side by side might be pretty effective at close range, but, I don’t want anybody getting that close…
You know what they say, don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.
And what you say might be true for the guy that has a house on a 2/4 acre lot in that city, with a police force close by, but out in the hills, the situation is a little different.
If what you suggest works for you, that’s great, it just might not work that great for everyone else.
Let me put it this way, the guy with the cannon that I can hear sometimes doesn’t bother me, I don’t like the sound of fully automatic small arms fire at night, that makes me very nervous…
But the sound of a good old, US made, .50 caliber automatic…, chunk,-chunk,-chunk…, chunk…chunk…chunk…, chunk,–chunk,-chunk…, at night, puts me right to sleep…
Go figure…
No offense but you missed a rattlesnake at close range with a shotgun. Now you are talking long range action.
If semi-automatic weapons were banned you wouldn’t have to worry. Do you own an assault rifle now for home defense.?
Get caught with a unlicensed or illegal weapon.
Automatic 10 years.
Quit telling me what’s wrong with my solution and tell me yours.
Of semi automatics were banned, only the crooks would have them.
Solution for what? School shootings like in Evalde?
Metal detectors would you believe?
If somebody is packing, the door doesn’t open…
Real cops?
No recess? Buses with armed security guards? No school outings?
Not just school shootings. The Vegas shootings. Semi-auto weapons. The Walmart shootings. The recent Tops Mkt shootings.
Caught with an unlicensed or illegal weapon.
Automatic 10 years
It’s going to take time and political will.
Unrealistic. It isn’t going to happen.
Even if such a law is passed, it won’t work.
Legal weapons will be plentiful.
Are you going to babysit these guys for ten years? Who is going to pay for that?
Not to mention the court costs…
It would bring the justice system to a standstill.
A car plowed into a preschool building in Anderson, CA, and injured 20 kids recently… That was just stupid permitting. It was an unreinforced masonry building, with giant windows, on a busy corner, with barely any setbacks from either street.
Is your plan going to stop that too?
I didn’t miss a “running” rattlesnake, with my bow and arrow, at longer range.
I know that I said it was a head shot before, but it was actually a “neck shot”, LOL.
You like to focus on my shortcomings.
Have you ever used a 12 guage pistol?
And I’d say 29 of 30 isn’t all that bad.
The last rattlesnake that I killed was in the crosswalk in front of the liquor store in Redway after dusk. Have you ever killed a rattlesnake with a siphon hose?
Pretty effective actually…
Sometimes you have to improvise.
And you never told me how many rattlers you’ve killed. Maybe zero?
So, how do you know if you would miss or not?
Like I’ve said before, you are better at asking questions, than you are at answering them.
Why is that? LOL
(See what I did there?)
You should try shooting clay pigeons with an 18″ pistol grip 12 guage “Defender” with a cylinder bore.
Great fun. Can’t miss, but you gotta be quick on the trigger…
I guess that makes me not the average citizen…
I’m ok with that.
Want stopping power?
Rarely in the annals of firearms awesome-osity has anything come along for the handgun-consuming public like Taurus International’s “Raging Bull.” It’s a five-shot revolver that ended the .44 magnum’s 43-year reign as the world’s most powerful handgun cartridge by shooting one that’s bigger
You could always go with the .460 Magnum S&W too but I don’t think my wrists could hold up to it for long.
I’ve shot a colt anaconda in .44 magnum with an 8″ barrel. It’s not even fun to shoot. Too loud. Too much kick to be accurate. Stings the hands after a couple cylinders of brass being cycled. No thanks. I LOVE my Glock 34. Semi auto. Striker fired. Safety on the trigger. Could secure a 33 round magazine for it (or the standard issue 17 round magazine) if California wasn’t rediculous about magazine sizes. Ok platform for competition shooting. Little large for concealed carry, but I like the full size barrel. 50 rounds of fmj for $20 instead of the $1.50+ per round for .44 magnum. Hand cannons are for people with more money than sense.
Why is this comment awaiting approval?
Is that the .454 magnum?
With a 260 grain bullet it develops a measly 1,871 ft pounds of muzzle energy.
You call that stopping power?
My 12 guage “pistol” grip, with a 2 3/4 ” 1 oz slug, develops 2,363 ft pounds of muzzle energy.
Over 126% of the .454 magnum in 260 grain…
And I’m almost positive it will take a 3″, 12 guage magnum 1 oz slug…
1,760ft per second for a whopping, and I do mean whopping 3,005 ft pounds of muzzy energy!
161% percent of that itty bitty .454 magnum with a 260 grain bullet!
Now that’s what I call, whopping-stopping power!…
How many rattlers have you killed?
Ever had to kill a 43 inch “hisser”, that raised up so high that it seemed like it was looking you in the eye and you could have just about reached out and touched it, with a bow and arrow?
Yep, my very first one. A “running” head shot with a compound bow.
If you think it’s the rattle that gets your attention, you’ve never had one hiss in your face.
Now that will get your attention!…
I’ve killed plenty, a couple only 6″.
I’ve shot the heads off of the what’s left of them, and the rest of them off their heads.
What’s left of them will strike at you without the head, for a long time, and just the head will even try and strike at you, and bare its venomous fangs, clear eyed, without any of the rest of them for just a little bit…
And I’ve skinned out plenty as well, and this you won’t believe, but if you kill one after sundown, and cut it’s head off, it’s heart will keep beating until sunup, and then suddenly it will stop, and if you kill one after sunup, and cut it’s head off, it’s heart will keep beating until the sun goes down, and then it will suddenly stop.
LOL, you gotta get up pretty early in the morning to skin that rattler that you killed the evening before, and you gotta have full eastern exposure if you’re gonna test it..It’s gonna have to be a pretty good sized one, maybe, over 30″, (I can’t remember if it was the 43″ one), and you’ll be pretty surprised to see the heart still beating the next morning when you open it up, but it’ll really get your attention, when the sun starts to come up, and it finally stops.
It’s creepy, let me tell you…
And you ain’t gonna find that info on the internet… So if you’re gonna dispute that one, good luck! It might take you a while.
Why does the left fuss about the guns, but when murderers and repeat arms offenders are caught and locked up, cry racism as an excuse to let murderers and offenders out of jail?
Got me. In fact can’t really figure out why you are asking me.
Why aren’t social media held accountable for Uvalde when they knew in advance S
alvador Ramos, 18, was known as the “Yubo school shooter” on social media? They have responsibilities and should be financially liable right along with Uvalde police.
Our 2nd Amendment rights are more important than ever as we’re potentially threatened by a national standing army under the control of authoritarian leftists, at least if they get their way. That’s why these same authoritarians want to abolish the 2nd, so they’ll have no resistance to their despotic agenda.
Joe Biden did that!
If the founding fathers had foreseen this happening, I am sure they would have set limits. It’s lack of political will for decades that has led to this.
The federal government is creating the problem with asymmetric warfare on the people.
Wash rinse repeat.
Dr Peter Breggin.
Will help you understand the method behind the chaos.
So will Dr Judy Mikovitz.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSxlwT6nJ8d/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link this one, have to listen to all the slides.
Breggin is a very smart man, and a very good Doctor.
Very rare indeed.
My fav quote by a Friday NRA meeting attendee:
“Why did it happen three days ago? I’m not sure that there are not forces someplace that somehow find troubled people and nurture and develop them and push them for their own agendas.”
— Jim Hollis, lifetime NRA member
Another full-on ‘the Left did it!’ conspiracy looper, right there.
And the law enforcement involved will say “we were just following orders” Where have we heard that before?
Sounds about right.
Or “we were waiting for orders”…
Standing around with their thumbs up their asses waiting for the problem to disappear, and they’re paid well with a big fat 3% each @ 20 for picking their noses instead of saving the children – for an hour. Names and shame then send them kicking rocks without any damn pension
I agree.
20 veterans each and every day commit suicide, as many as lost at Uvalde, so where’s the outrage, the call to action by our politicians? And the weekly losses in Chicago, not a peep. Sadly, as evidenced by his defining silence, Joe Biden doesn’t give a damn
It’s not a new problem.
In addition, mental health rates have risen 65% in the military since 2000, with 936,000 troops diagnosed with at least one mental health issue in that time, according to the new data.
The suicide rate for veterans is 1.5 times higher than that of the general population.
Comparing the rate among female veterans to non-Veteran adult women, the rate is 2.5 times higher.5 From 2001 to 2014, the U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs (VA) reports an increased suicide rate among women using VA health services from 14.4 per 100,000 to 17.3 per 100,000
Ah, vets. Being screwed, those warrior youth sent to battle by old men. Too bad the current militia-minded BSers aren’t sent instead. Wussies.
The constitutionalists are frauds when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. Over the decades, the NRA shifted the meaning in the American psyche, and the courts, hence fraud upon the American people given the 2nd Amendment, the right to “bear arms”, is to protect the State given the national military was weak at the time it was written. The time it was written. Bingo. When the need for a State militia was the predicate of the “right” guarantee, so as to protect the security of the State. The Security of the State! Today, a huge national defense establishment has assumed the role of the militia of 200+ years ago. Americans have been duped by the gun industry and political hacks. Period.
Uvalde is a perfect lesson
https://www.salon.com/2022/05/27/uvalde-timeline-exposes-an-ugly-truth-the-police-have-no-legal-duty-to-protect-you/
Two years before the massacre at Robb Elementary School that left 19 fourth-graders and their two teachers dead, the Uvalde Police Department boasted online about having its own SWAT team.
The department posted a picture on Facebook of nine heavily armed officers with the caption “Meet Our SWAT Team.”
But when terror came to the tiny Texas town, it’s not clear if tactical unit that seemingly trained for just such a moment turned out to respond, a law enforcement source said.
“There were so many officers, so many agencies involved,” the source said.
Guns are now the leading cause of death among young people in the U.S.
For decades, car crashes were the leading cause of death for Americans ages 1 to 19. But the gap between car crash deaths and firearms deaths began to steadily narrow in recent years. In 2020, gun violence overtook car accidents to become the No. 1 cause of death for U.S. children and adolescents.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/28/1101307932/texas-shooting-uvalde-gun-violence-children-teenagers
Don’t much care about gangbangers, they chose the life (and death) so sooner the better but innocents caught in cross fire is different – that’s why an armed citizenry is critical as society’s defensive line before the (often ineffective) cops arrive.
https://www.salon.com/2022/05/27/uvalde-timeline-exposes-an-ugly-truth-the-police-have-no-legal-duty-to-protect-you/
Retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens Calls For Repeal Of Second Amendment.
In an op-ed in Tuesday’s New York Times, the 97-year-old Stevens writes that a constitutional amendment “to get rid of” the Second Amendment “would do more to weaken the N.R.A.’s ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/597259426/retired-supreme-court-justice-stevens-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment
https://www.salon.com/2022/05/27/uvalde-timeline-exposes-an-ugly-truth-the-police-have-no-legal-duty-to-protect-you/
I have an idea.. Have a special police officer in every town who goes around and shoots anyone seen carrying an assault weapon.
How very Rodrigo Duterte or Vladimir Putin of you.
You’re suggesting an assassin? Hmmm, that’s a terrible idea. I’m pretty sure that would be against the law, and against the rules.
Are you trying to start a war?
Just an observation?
What is your definition of an assault rifle?
One capable of fully automatic or three round bursts with a selector switch?
Just a rifle that is semi automatic with a detachable clip?
What’s next, do you suggest that an officer guns down anyone with fentanyl?
That would probably save a lot more lives, young and old.
Have you ever considered moving to the Philippines? You would fit right in. Maybe you could be hired as Duterte’s right hand man?
And I hear Vladimir is in need of a few soldiers to replace…
They are already doing just as you suggest. But the people they are shooting, don’t necessarily have to be carrying any weapons at all.
Have you thought about that?
Just an idea.
If you want to be that guy, Zelenskyy could probably use your help, too.
Oh, you didn’t see the sarcasm font?
And if you don’t know the definition of an assault weapon look it up.
Gonna be pretty hard for your special police officer to see whether the weapon has a selector switch, isn’t it?
Oh, impress me with your gun knowledge oh great hunter of rattlesnakes.
I don’t hunt them, (only once, not my idea, I did find one), just run across them…
My place is crawling with them…
I don’t get a lot of visitors…
What makes you think that I hunt them?
Oh Great Hunter of Hand Fed Pet Hogs At Point Blank Range…
And I’m pretty sure that most States won’t sell you a gun with a selector switch…
For one thing they weren’t pets. They were raised for meat. Never named one Piglet or Wilbur.
And I have hunted deer and quail. Even went bow hunting one time. Avid salmon and steelhead fisherman. Not actually hunting but takes a certain skill.
Salmon and steelhead fishing is definitely a skill. I used to do a lot of it…
Not so much anymore. Never, actually.
Don’t bow hunt, and haven’t even killed a deer in many years…
Pigs run wild here… I’ve shot a few bear.
So what makes you think your guns/rifles won’t be next on the list?
I offered a compromise. Instead of giving me tired old cliches what is your solution?
That’s the problem, people don’t want to offer solutions
just the same old talking points, hoping the problem will just go away
Did you shoot them with their head in the trough?
No I led them out of the pen, tied them to a post, blindfolded them, gave them one last cigarette, then shot them.
Very merciful of you.
A cigarette?
But no last meal?
spoken like a true prison guard
News flash.
You’ve been raised like a farm animal.
I wonder how you would feel if the police were holding you outside while a mental case was killing your kids/grandkids
What is an “assault weapon?” You better be specific if you’re sanctioning state sponsored killings.
Well Texas lenient gun laws allowed Ramos to purchase those AR.15’s. So what he did could be considered a state sponsored killing..
You didn’t answer the question. What is an “assault weapon?” We can have a meaningful conversation if we define terms before engaging in debate. Otherwise, it’s kinda pointless as we can’t argue our positions based on common terminology. I can buy an AR-15 in California. The laws here are pretty strict. What position are you trying to convey?
He only asks questions, he doesn’t answer them…
Back at it are we? Want to start trading insults again?
How is the truth an insult?
Oh please. Headlines are full of “assault weapon used” “assault weapon ban”
You may get your way at home, but not with me. I won’t put up with it.
What are you even talking about?
Boy, you sure waffle, back and forth, from not putting up with “lies”, “misinformation”, and “disinformation”, being totally unacceptable, to “What’s the big deal?” “Everybody is doing it”…
Make up your mind…
Maybe you haven’t noticed?
You won’t put up with it, unless, of course, it’s you doing it, in which case you’re A.O.K. with it…
I’ve noticed.
I know, I know…
“What are you even talking about?”
He does, however, post a lot of meaningless links. And he did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
To add insult to injury Trump read off the names of the Texas school shooting victims at the NRA convention. Surprised he didn’t order a 21 gun salute.
That doesn’t seem very appropriate.
As a side note…
Ten days after getting his second booster dose, California Governor Gavin Newsom tests positive for COVID-19…
Seems to be the recurring theme.
Get your second booster dose …
Within a couple of weeks…
Whammo, get COVID-19.
https://deadline.com/2022/05/gavin-newsom-positive-covid-1235035122/
Ten days after saline injection
After the town begged the media to go away and let them grieve, Biden shows up for his photo op.
Meanwhile…..
There’s been no mention of the Asian man that murdered the Elderly Asian people attending church the Sunday before the school shooting.
I guess they didn’t matter.
As far as I’m concerned the politicians are also cowards.
There have been 216 mass shootings, including in Buffalo and Uvalde. Calls for new gun safety laws often follow these tragedies, but Washington has a long history of failed attempts at such legislation.
Dem’s unconstitutional gun grab is a no go, a well armed citizenry is our only safeguard against the rise of an authoritarian central government, a present growing threat. There are however many measures we should all be able to agree on: hardened schools, red flag laws, early mental health intervention, accountability (including liability) for mental health professionals that fail to report, social media that allow threatening posts without reporting to local law enforcement, and police that cowardly fail to act. We need more and better armed good guys amongst us, we can’t count on the police to be there or act properly to save lives even if they are. Us citizenry are mostly on our own.
Some good ideas, but getting politicians to act on them is the problem.
I would bet money that lobbyist’s from the NRA, the mental health industry, are in Washington right now trying to stifle any
meaningful legislation.
Trudeau is trying to outlaw handguns now…
Give them an inch, and they will take a mile…
Oath Keeper often?
Contemporary Mexican society experiences gun homicide at a higher rate than many other nations, despite strict gun laws. Firearms have played a significant role in the History of Mexico, and the country was founded with a strong presence and adhesion to arms, though Mexico has a long history of passing gun restriction laws
Brazil has the highest number of total gun deaths from all causes in the world, with 49,436 out of 250,227 worldwide. The United States has the second-highest number of gun deaths with 37,038.
That said, if one isolates the violent gun deaths and adjusts for population size by expressing the rate as the number of homicides per 100k people, the list changes significantly.
Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
The previous post, as was not reported on NPR.
(National Propaganda Radio)
https://www.npr.org/
Nancy Pelosi’s husband arrested for DUI…
Napa County Criminal Justice Network
05/29/2022
04:13 AM202200900
PELOSI, PAUL
White, Male, 6’2″, 200 lbs, Brown Hair, Brown Eyes
DOB: 04/15/1940, 8205/28/2022
11:44 PM Booking01: 23152(a)VC : M, 23152(b)VC : M – Bail: $5,000.00
https://services.countyofnapa.org/CJNetWeb/Public/BookingReport
How many people die from DUI drivers?
Don’t mess with Texas or the firearm industry.
The Texas Law That Has Banks Saying They Don’t ‘Discriminate’ Against Guns
Recent legislation requires firms to declare that they don’t “discriminate” against the firearm industry — or risk losing lucrative business with the state.
Texas also has had more than a million people, of unknown intentions, from over 100 countries, illegally cross its border in the last 4 months.
And Biden wants more.
Would you feel safe?
Would you hand over your guns?
I may be wrong, but I have yet to hear of an illegal immigrant involved in a mass shooting in the US…
We have plenty of homegrown people for that.
Well I know a Mexican who had part of his ear shot off because his girlfriend was wearing the wrong color ribbon in her hair.
And had a Mexican construction crew working, while 2 were always posted out front watching for gang banger drivebys.
Does killing a couple people at a time over and over again count? Or is that more acceptable to you?
Most Latinos I know, came here to get away from that, not to have it follow them.
So they were Mexican? So this occurred in Mexico?
2,000 Mules? All I know is that a whole lot of jackasses still believe the election was rigged and Trump won.
Trump’s ‘big lie’ hits cinemas: the film claiming to investigate voter fraud.
2000 Mules has been resoundingly debunked by factcheckers, but the film has earned praise from Trump and other Republicans.
American Schools Are Fantastically Depressing Places Sending A Clear Message: ‘Enter here and be FOREVER psychologically brutalized’
The phoniest trope in American life goes like this: We must find the cause of X so that it never happens again. Of course, it will happen again. We only pretend that the cause is a mystery. Let’s count the ways that school massacres happen.
The mayhem unleashed in a school shooting is just the rectified essence of the manifold derangements in our national life. Everything is out-of-whack, including our perception of what’s going on and what it means. There is almost nothing left of childhood in this land, in the way of young, unformed creatures assisted by adults who love them into a future worth being part of. We have forgotten how to be grateful for coming into this world at all, leaving us unworthy of being here. The quality of virtue, meaning that some things and some doings are recognizably better than others, was deceitfully replaced by the equity of nothing being allowed to be better than anything else. Truth and beauty have gone outlaw. Bad faith and wickedness rule, led by a Party of Chaos. So, really, what do you expect? And what do you deserve?
more @
https://anthony-brown.com/blog/?p=462
The power struggle between the haves and have nots is real. Believing in the honest intentions of the establishment power structure says everything about your naivete. It’s not a bad thing to be naive, but those young children maintaining a healthy imagination is vital. Old folks who haven’t learned anything about the nature of man/woman in power, must not be held as sages in our society.
Just because you refuse to accept the truth of how power operates, doesn’t mean people won’t steal from the blind deaf and dumb.
As dark as it seems, the world’s actors are telling everyone their plans, and have been for a very long time.
Just because you refuse to acknowledge it, doesn’t mean everyone else will.
MONTREAL—Less than two weeks after a gunman went on a rampage in Canada’s eastern province of Nova Scotia, killing 22 people in the deadliest mass shooting in the country’s modern history, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a long-awaited announcement: His government would ban “assault-style” firearms in Canada—a demand gun control advocates had spent decades pushing for.
On May 1, Trudeau enacted new regulations to ban the use, sale, and import of more than 1,500 models of firearms and their components. “Canadians deserve more than thoughts and prayers,” Trudeau said, echoing the fatalistic refrain of many U.S. politicians after every mass shooting.
Major gun reforms in Canada. A 28-day waiting period for purchases; mandatory safety training courses; more detailed background checks; bans on large-capacity magazines; and bans or greater restrictions on military-style firearms and ammunition.
Firearms in Canada are divided into three classes: nonrestricted weapons, such as ordinary rifles and shotguns; restricted, such as handguns and semiautomatic rifles or shotguns; and prohibited, such as automatic weapons
“Bad boys bad boys, what cha gonna do when they come for you”
https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again
Is there a definition of “assault-style” firearm?
Yes.
So no there isn’t
Not In Canada there isn’t, my friend…
Ahh once again the puppet master at work.
Yep, the “misleader” of the pack.
You still don’t get it. The squirrel and I post something then he steps back and let’s you try and take care of things. There is a word for that.
That’s all in your head.
Mlr doesn’t “let” me do anything, any more than he or I “lets” you do what you do…
I do what I want, as I imagine you do, and he does…
Nice try though.
From what I have seen, mlr posts something, and then lets you over-react.
Not as of May 28, 2020, there apparently wasn’t, and that was almost a month after your unlinked, undated, information…
https://globalnews.ca/news/6964855/canada-gun-ban-details/
“But “assault” or “assault-style” is not a legal weapons classification in Canada.”
“Instead, the term is a colloquial phrase generally used to describe high-power, rapid-fire guns, similar to the kinds frequently used by militaries (although automatic weapons, which most militaries use, are already banned in Canada)”.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6964855/canada-gun-ban-details/
I am not going to get into a big debate over the definition of assault weapons, which is where the squirrel was leading me to.
Here is a Wiki link. See what they have to say about it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon
And all this is a smokescreen over the real issue. Something needs to be done. Debating what is an assault weapon solves nothing.
Of course you are not, because their isn’t one, and you can’t produce, so you can’t win…
And the smokescreen thing is my material.
Your copying me again…
When you find an official definition, get back to us…
No excuses…
I gave you a link. And look up Bill Clinton’s assault weapons ban. Which included the AR.15.
Can’t win? Why is everything a contest with you?
You edited in that link…
It wasn’t there when I responded.
Sous that Wikipedia definition the one that Trudeau used?
I gave you a link, for what was going on in Canada…
Anything about a 20mm maximum bore in Wikipedia?
Do you figure a 10 guage duck gun is an assault weapon?
A mini 14 or a mini 30?
And as far as the contest thing…
I’m just holding you to your own standards…
You no like?
He’ll do that if you reply before waiting a half hour
Athena give me patience.
I am really trying here. Work with me on this personal thing.
There is no personal thing, unless it’s your thing…
This definition specifies a selector switch, for semi automatic and fully automatic…
“assault rifle”
,”military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire. Because they are light and portable yet still able to deliver a high volume of fire with reasonable accuracy at modern combat ranges of 1,000–1,600 feet (300–500 metres), assault rifles have replaced the high-powered bolt-action and semiautomatic rifles of the World War II era as the standard infantry weapon of modern armies.”
Don’t you need to legally define what you intend to ban?
Like I said I am not going to get into that debate. Read the Wiki link, and the Clinton ban.
It’s up to the politicians to do something about these shootings, which is what I am concerned about.
Read the Britannica link that I gave you.
Changing the definition like they did for the vaccine is bullshit.
Assault rifles have a selector switch, just like I said…
Your the one that wants to give a guy 10 years…
At least define it properly.
Definition of assault rifle
: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic fire
also : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault%20rifle
Here is one for assault rifle…
https://www.britannica.com/technology/assault-rifle
assault rifle, military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire. Because they are light and portable yet still able to deliver a high volume of fire with reasonable accuracy at modern combat ranges of 1,000–1,600 feet (300–500 metres), assault rifles have replaced the high-powered bolt-action and semiautomatic rifles of the World War II era as the standard infantry weapon of modern armies.
One definition. Read the Wiki link.
One definition. Read the Brittanica link.
That wiki link of yours waffles all over the place. Very inconsistent…
It changes while it’s changing…
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault%20rifle
What? Now it’s 2 definitions?
A Polysemy?
Good morning….
Look, why don’t you explain to why innocent Americans should suffer the consequences of single individuals that break the law, and be stripped of their ability to protect themselves?
Yes, I understand, in this case, that many American children suffered the consequences of the crime of a single individual. Who will protect us?
Law enforcement, you might say…
SWAT Teams…
But, there is currently an investigation, into the delayed response from the incident commander, Pedro Arredondo, whose force also included a SWAT team…
If we don’t have weapons to protect ourselves, then we will be in the same position as these unfortunate children, waiting an hour, trapped in a room with a gunman, while our high paid “saviours”despicably twiddle their self-preserving thumbs, literally right outside the classroom door…
Pedro Arredondo, being hailed as a coward, is hiding at home, in his own room now, scared to emerge, for fear of retaliation, and is demanding police presence, patrol, and protection, because of the perceived consequences, of his inaction against one 18 year old kid…
Do you think he deserves protection?
Or do you think that they should twiddle their thumbs for an hour, just outside his door, after HE calls 911 to report the shooting has begun?
Are we to all put our collective future and safety in the hands of such complete incompetence, along with our children?
If you think so, then you can go ahead and climb aboard the USS PEDRO ARREDONDO, with it’s overpaid, cowardly Captain, all by your little lonesome, with whomever will join you…
Not Me… No Thanks…
That ship ain’t seaworthy, if it’s not already sunk.
I think I will try to man my own ship.
May 1st, 2020.
2 years ago? Why post it
Well you really must think The US Constitution is a bad idea because that was written in 1787.
Well at least you posted the year this time…
What does the year or a link have to do with it. I thought it was a good idea. Nothing more nothing less.
It’s misleading, without the year it makes it look like it just happened 4 weeks ago… Not 2 years and 4 weeks ago…
Does that make a difference?
Here is an interesting fact..
Every day in the U.S., roughly 1 gun is stolen every 90 seconds. That amounts to around 380,000 stolen guns every year, many of which are later used to commit violent crimes. People buy guns to help protect themselves, but when they don’t protect them from being stolen, they’re putting themselves and their communities in danger.
Define interesting.
.
What drives gun violence, Einstein?
Cmon man use your HEAD
Gunpowder?
Primer?
The environment that’s will not be solved by political grandstanding.
Act like a slave
Get treated like a slave.
I’m beginning to lose patience with our economic shitshow not being the forefront of our discussion.
Yep, gonna make a great Trump running mate in 2024.
Marjorie Taylor Greene Razzed for Insisting ‘Fake Meat’ Is Grown in a ‘Peach Tree Dish’
Jeremy Fuster
May 29, 2022, 6:25 pm
First there was “gazpacho” police. Now Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has made another equally as amusing vocabulary flub in an attempt to get across her latest conspiratorial claim about Democrats and “fake meat,” which she says is manufactured in a “peach tree dish.”
The extremist Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene triggered a wave of viral jokes on Wednesday after ranting about the “gazpacho police” patrolling the Capitol building in Washington DC.
Greene was apparently mixing up the famously cold Spanish soup gazpacho with the Gestapo – the brutal Nazi-era secret police in Germany.
Don’t you mean…
“the brutal Nacho-era secret police in Germany?
Because people seem to have gotten their knickers in a bunch over me defining an assault weapon I am reposting this. Why they are so bothered over my definition I have no idea. Maybe Lucy can figure it out. Anyway here is the weapons I think should be allowed.
Constitutional right to bear arms. Fine, let’s go back to the weapons used when that was written. Single shot black powder rifles and pistols.
How about this. Allow 3 shot rifles top or side loading, no magazines. Bolt or lever action. Hunter should just need one shot but in case. Same with shotguns, 3 shots. .Double barrel.
should be allowed I guess. Go back to revolvers ,the old six shooter. Or the derringer. Want to shoot assault rifles? Have ranges where people can rent guns, shoot away then turn them back in.
The most important part.
You get caught with an unlicensed or illegal gun, automatic 10 years.
Won’t stop shootings of course, but maybe we can slow things down, and avoid these mass shootings.
Apparently, according to a doctor, community gardens bring down gun violence.
I’ll give you a buck for your first 20 sessions
See if this helps. This is how California defines assault weapon.
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/blog/california-assault-weapon-definition/
Grey fox, let’s expand this debate just a bit…
Let’s compare response times, for say, local law enforcement to arrive, and for a SWAT team to arrive between your location, and mine…
I figure the fastest any Law enforcement could come to my aid would be 15 to 20 minutes under ideal conditions, and would be unfamiliar with the area, and probably lose their way… And a SWAT team? 2 hrs minimum, before they could arrive… And would certainly be unfamiliar with the area… By then the damage would likely be done, and the assailant?
Far, far, away…
What would be the response time to your location?
Let’s quit going on tangents and focus on the real problem, these mass shootings.
I offer a solution, MLR offered a solution. What is your solution? Other than a metal detector on school doors.
I listened to a doctor describe her solutions… I already mentioned it, and you didn’t acknowledge it.
Community gardens, she mentioned, lowered gun violence…
She may have mentioned other things that others had already suggested.
The community gardens, is what was different.
Another thing to add to the list. Mental health seems to be a big issue.
I like Canada’s 28 day waiting period.
Required gun safety classes.
Deeper background checks
Why did you delete your post about the 1994 federal weapons ban that ultimately, wasn’t upheld?
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/13/750656174/the-u-s-once-had-a-ban-on-assault-weapons-why-did-it-expire
“Times were different then. More Americans said they worried about violent crime and the threat associated with criminals armed with powerful weapons.
So among other things, Biden and Democrats got behind stricter sentencing guidelines and expanding the category of federal crimes punishable with the death penalty.
At the time, Biden defended the legislation against charges of weakness by saying: “We do everything but hang people for jaywalking in this bill.”
Hang people for jaywalking?
Biden is an idiot.
Obviously has been, since at least 1994…
And the Democratic party tanked after this passed…
“Biden has come to rue much about the 1994 legislation.
It led to a surge in prison populations that has since been reviled as “mass incarceration” that proved disproportionately injurious to African Americans. Biden has been upbraided for it by his rivals since this year’s Democratic presidential contest began.
But in 1994, the most immediate consequence of the crime bill was a backlash against the assault weapons ban among gun advocates.”
Wasn’t upheld? It had a sunset provision. It expired and cowardly politicians never reinstated it.
Wasn’t renewed. It also allowed those that already possessed the weapons to keep them…
Do you support something similar?
Nope. But initially what started the thread was MLR asking me if assault weapons had a definition. I said yes.
I thought this all started by you saying that anyone caught with an illegal weapon should get a mandatory minimum of ten years on prison.
And as far as whether there is a definition, all you said was yes, you didn’t give the definition.
There are many different “definitions”.
That is part of the problem.
And you still haven’t chimed in on the cops incompetence in Uvalde, and how much of a difference that made.
If Ramos had a a pair of “six guns”, he still would have had plenty of time to do plenty of damage, thanks to that incompetence.
Even with a breechloader, it would have been awful, if he wasn’t immediately confronted by competent law enforcement.
Don’t kid yourself.
Gues you missed my post about Uvalde’s supposed swat team.
Different definitions? Right. The NRA’s and the Federal Government and the State of California’s.
I lend no credibility to anything the NRA has to say on the issue or about anything for that matter.
Got a link for that?
Don’t confuse suicides with homicides.
I’d say you are wrong…
These weren’t hard to find…
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/mental-health/stop-conflating-mass-shootings-with-mental-illness/
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/blaming-mass-shootings-nations-mental-health-crisis-harmful/story?id=84973562
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/974716
So you don’t think a person that kills another person, especially a mass shooter, does not have mental health issues?
Sorry, I believe anyone that kills another person is not right in the head. Would anyone in their right mind go into a school and kill 19 children and two teachers? Your definition of mental health and mine seem to be far apart.
Did I say that? Nope.
You did.
Do shooters and mass shooters have mental health issues?
No more than anyone else.
25% of the perps had mental illness.
25% of people have mental illness.
Same same.
You are looking for a scapegoat.
Your playing the blame game.
Like I’ve said before…
Blame is non therapeutic.
Blame is not a solution.
Blame doesn’t help anyone.
Blame is lame.
These people have much more serious mental health problems that the average.
4% of mass shooters have mental illness.
96% of them don’t.
79% of the general population don’t qualify, apparently.
21% do.
In the United States, in 2020, 21% of adults experienced mental illness.
5.6% experienced serious mental illness.
Are you qualified to diagnose mental illness?
Or are you just playing Doctor?
Here you go again with the %. Give us the numbers. Makes a difference.
Your depending to much on the opinion of so called “mental health experts” They can’t really know what goes on in a persons mind. Hot Coffee already brought that up. They are giving you their opinion on what is considered mental health.
Don’t need to be a doctor to know that someone who goes into a school kills multiple children has serious mental health issues.
You sound angry.
Was Ramos angry?
Fauci and Weingarten are substantially responsible for the recent mental health mass killings of our youth. When will they apologize?
Move closer to law enforcement?
Wasn’t this ultimately overturned?
Your good at asking questions, how are you at answering them?
Easy for you to say if you live very near HCSO or EPD, etc…
Why won’t you tell us how near you are to protection?
Too close to home?
Let me ask you this, can you understand how the further one gets from LE protection, the more one might feel the need to be prepared to protect themselves?
The fiasco in Eureka yesterday, that looked like more of a photo op for EPD and HCSO than a hostage response, resembled what it must have looked like in Uvalde, TX.
Highly paid Cops and Sheriff’s everywhere…
More equipment than you could shake a stick at…
But… Very little action… Like they didn’t know what to do…
It’s a good thing that the guy wasn’t actually shooting, he would have had quite a bit of time to do so…
Was their confusion as to leadership?
Jurisdiction?
All’s well that ends well, I guess…
It didn’t end well in Uvalde, grey fox, you blame the weapons…
You don’t mention the botched response…
Maybe the solution is better cops?
Yeah, I suggest better cops.
Train them. Test them. Weed out the cowards. Get rid of them. They have no business on a police force.
The ban expired on September 13, 2004, in accordance with its sunset provision. Several constitutional challenges were filed against provisions of the ban, but all were rejected by the courts. There were multiple attempts to renew the ban, but none succeeded.
Maybe this had something to do with it?
The resulting cowardice may have been Democratic…
“Adding in the blowback over the assault weapons ban — particularly intense in the rural South and West — turned the midterm into a debacle for Democrats. They lost control of both the Senate and House, the latter for the first time in 40 years.”
Multiple attempts? Really?
Befuddled Biden calls Monday for banning high caliber 9 mm handguns that blow up a lung preferring limits to .22 that can be surgically removed. I don’t know about Crazy Joe but if I’m shooting then I want them to stay down with the first hit.
Better be using armor piercing rounds , otherwise they will return fire and blow you away. By the way, armor piercing ammo for pistols is illegal in Calif. But not for rifles.
” Penal Code 30315 PC is the California statute that makes it a crime for a person or company to possess armor-piercing bullets and ammunition. A violation is a felony punishable by up to three years in county jail.
More mass shooters are using body armor, but attempts to regulate its purchase have failed.
Tops Mkt shooting. A retired Buffalo police officer who was working as a security guard fired multiple shots at the gunman. The authorities said that the suspect was struck but was wearing body armor and managed to return fire, killing the security guard.
And here comes………
Wayne Lapierre has your thoughts and prayers in mind, cuz their also his thoughts and prayers. Thank you, Wayne. Cuz we can stop the carnage if we just all … think and pray more.
Yep