Searching for Man Who Assaulted 60-Year-Old Bicyclist

[Bicyclist cartoonized from Cal Poly Humboldt image of a bicyclist ]

[Bicyclist created from Cal Poly Humboldt image of a bicyclist ]

An unknown man assaulted a 60-year-old local artist and bicyclist on Big Lagoon Park Road this last Thursday, May 12 at approximately 7:45 a.m. the victim, told us that the suspect was a white male in his mid twenties with short, dark hair. The victim said the man was approximately 5’10 and weighted about 175 pounds. He said the man was driving a black Nissan Maxima, with a white California plate with the number 8YUR993.

The victim told us that he was riding his bicycle on the narrow road when the vehicle began overtaking him from the rear. He said the driver honked at him several times. But, he explained, “I was lawfully maintaining my lane.

The victim said, “I turned around and looked and this guy barreled through probably 18 inches off my shoulder.” Motorists are supposed to be at least three feet from the bicyclist when passing them.

But the motorist didn’t keep going. He stopped prior to the stop sign. “He got out of his car, berating me, saying he could beat the shit out of me,” The victimtold us. “Clearly you can–I am 60 and you’re are 25,” The victim said he replied.

Nissan Maxima

Stock photo of a Nissan Maxima from here.

The victim said he attempted to explain that the law allowed him to “take a lane” to the man when he was “sucker punched.”

“Out of the blue, he clocked me,” The victim told us. “I took my bicycle glove to my mouth. My glove was just red…full of blood…He severed my lip and displaced three of my teeth.”

He said he asked the man, “Why did you just do that?” The victim said the man stared at him and was “menacing.” After that, the victim said, “He declared one more time ‘Fuck you’ without any sign of remorse and drove away.”

The victim says he somehow managed to make his way home. “I had to go to Urgent Care, then the ER in Arcata, then the dentist,” he told us. “My teeth were knocked out of place…[the punch] altered the position of my upper teeth…they were punched in…Basically the impact was such [the dentist] couldn’t put my teeth back in place…He had to shave down the inside of my upper teeth so that there was no conflict [with the lower teeth].

In addition, he told us he needed stitches for his lip.

The victim is asking if anyone has any information please immediately report to Humboldt County Sheriff at (707) 445-7251 and reference case #202202499

“I’m deflated

,” the victim told us, “I love the beauty of where I live, but I’m really saddened…Nonetheless, I am charging on. If I let him win, I lose. Luckily, I have strong bones. 10 years older…I could have been dead.

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elvis costanza
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elvis costanza
2 months ago

It takes a real POS to sucker punch anyone, let alone a senior minding his own business. I hope they find that jerk.

Two Dogs
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Two Dogs
2 months ago
Reply to  elvis costanza

There are still states where “The last person you want to try to harm is an old man”, because it might very well be the last person you try to harm.

Mr. BearD
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Mr. Bear
2 months ago
Reply to  Two Dogs

I have no idea what you are trying to say

Taco
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Taco
2 months ago

That kid is so tough. I miss riding my bike around eureka and seeing all the scum out at 8 in the morning on a Saturday. Heads up, the sheriff issues ccw’s in that county. Might want to invest in one and next time use your right to defend yourself.

Country Joe
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Country Joe
2 months ago
Reply to  Taco

Great advice.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago

There’s a moral to this story.

You need to recognize that big lagoon road isn’t a typical road. The fact that you didn’t pull over makes you look like were part of the problem. Next time , yield, and save yourself a trip to the doctor.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 months ago

Victim blaming is shitty. So are turds who violently attack others without real justification.

longwind
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longwind
2 months ago
Reply to  I like stars

Yes yes. Being considerate is nonetheless its own reward.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  longwind

Pull over and let people pass on one lane roads and the problem is solved

Boogie Brew
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2 months ago

Another moronic comment. Get off your pathetic high horse “motorists own the road” mentality: A cyclist is also a vehicle who has a right to use the same lane as any vehicle would. Do you really believe that the victim was deliberately trying to prevent the bully punk who attacked him from being able to pass? Seriously? Driver / POS: Slow down and wait to pass in a courteous manner till it is safe to do so….Problem Solved.

Just Sayin
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Just Sayin
2 months ago
Reply to  Boogie Brew

No it’s fairly simple. Bicyclists think they own the road. They can’t maintain the speed limit yet wish to push people into passing in the other lane. When you operate a car on a narrow back road it’s common courtesy to let quicker vehicles by. Bike riders are narcissistic asf and want to play Russian roulette with life. I guess being dead right is worth it to a narcissist?

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Just Sayin

yup

Grumpy Old GruntD
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Grumpy Old Grunt
2 months ago
Reply to  Just Sayin

Kneeland is a good example of dangerous narrow road with a lot of bikes. Some bikers allow cars to pass some don’t.

William Harmon
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William Harmon
2 months ago
Reply to  Just Sayin

so true…

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Lost
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Lost
2 months ago
Reply to  Just Sayin

How often do you commute on a bike?

Boogie Brew
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2 months ago
Reply to  Just Sayin

Wow, so you truly believe the bicyclist was DELIBERATELY trying to block a vehicle from passing? Do you even posess the mental ability to consider that perhaps they simply weren’t ABLE to pull out of the way at that particular point on the road? Ignorant motorists, (like yourself), think they own the road and every other road user needs to immediately get out of their way. Pathetic and very narcissistic attitude, (you’re the pot calling a kettle black). Now what if the other person sharing the road was on a horse? Would you posess a similarly pompous attitude?

izzy
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izzy
2 months ago
Reply to  Boogie Brew

There’s often a considerable distance between theory and reality.
The roads today are full of half-cocked lunatics waiting for an excuse.
If a “right” needs to be defended in the real world, be sure to be up to the job first. For your own sake.

Jim
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Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  izzy

WTF does this even mean?

Echo
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Echo
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

It’s very thorough, think about it.

Party pooper
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Party pooper
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Avoid fights if you don’t want to get in one. I know a few feisty old folks just itching get knocked like that. Theyre just Lucky I’ve got respect…Aaand gettn closer to their demographic. Avoid fights. Look at pro boxing: even a winner gets his ass beat.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  Boogie Brew

Cyclists, and I am one, have a responsibility to share the road, that’s all. I’ve seen holier than thou, try to essentially say fuck off to cars. I wasn’t there, but I know big lagoon, and if that cyclist was 3ft in the road when there was a car behind him, and he didn’t pull to the side to let him pass, than he Definitely created the issue.

Responding
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Responding
2 months ago

So, if I understand you then a cyclist should pull to the side to let cars pass?How often is a car going to need to passion 101? Every 5-10 minutes? Maybe once a minute? You can see how what you are really asking for is for cyclists to stay in places where there are no cars at all. You’re asking them to stay on the sidewalk. And I’ve seen people get plenty pissed about that, too (I would agree with them). So, what you’d really be asking for would be for them to go away entirely.

I drive a car. I understand how cyclists may look to people who don’t ride bikes because they can’t behave like cars–at least not entirely. But this doesn’t make them beneath consideration, arrogant or deliberate. That’s your own irritation. That’s your own bad day being projected. Decent people don’t punch someone who slowed ’em down for–what, a minute? Instead, they try to see things from that person’s perspective. Why might have this cyclist been in the middle of the lane? Perhaps because if they pull over for every car they’ll never get anywhere or perhaps because they recognize the danger in riding right on the edge of the road, essentially inviting cars and trucks to squeak by them. You keep your lane or you end up in the ditch anyway.

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rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Boogie Brew

” Do you really believe that the victim was deliberately trying to prevent the bully punk who attacked him from being able to pass?”

Absolutely! They do it all the time. Hence the reason the Nissan was beeping his horn repeatedly. If he’da just been courteous instead of being a self-righteous dickhead bicyclist, he wouldn’t be fixing his teeth right now. Bet he won’t do that again.

Party pooper
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Party pooper
2 months ago
Reply to  Boogie Brew

Yes. Actually he was. While he LEGALLY in the right, practically speaking he knew he was “taking his lane” which means taking up the whole lane, and going slower. Which is legal, but a little risky in any case. That rule is meant for urban traffic, when cars and bikes travel at close to the same speed. First off, every one knows Nissan Altima drivers are crazy, Maxima’s are just overpowered Altimas. Let’s say you wanted to take your lane on the freeway, common sense tells you that traveling at 15 mph, while other vehicles are coming at 65 would be dangerous. This guy could have easily been wiped out by a nice little old grandma too, had she looked away from the road for a sec. Lucky the guy didn’t have a body in the trunk, and ready for another. I drive a truck with loads that sometimes means I travel slower than the fastest traffic. I get the middle finger all the time if I don’t pull over. I just know it makes people mad, can’t do anything about it, but there’s no reason to antagonize them, I certainly don’t do it on purpose.

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago
Reply to  Boogie Brew

It has nothing to do with “owning the road. Motorist are happy to share the road. That in no way should mean that cyclist get to force motorist to idle behind them (hoping not to be rear-end by other motorist) because the cyclist cant bother to be the slightest bit inconvenienced on their pleasure cruse.

Mr. BearD
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Mr. Bear
2 months ago
Reply to  well . . .

“Motorist are happy to share the road.”

As a lifelong cyclist I would have to say many are not happy about it. Some are downright angry about it

Mr. BearD
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Mr. Bear
2 months ago
Reply to  Boogie Brew

“Do you really believe that the victim was deliberately trying to prevent the bully punk who attacked him from being able to pass?”

Actually, we have no idea if he was

Jim
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Jim
2 months ago

Bicycles have as much of a right to the public roadways as cars do.

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

You have a right to be an asshole, it doesn’t mean you should exercise that right.

Don T MattaD
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Don T Matta
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

Ir seems ro work well for you!!!

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Don T Matta

Ya ya, I know. I’m a racist anti vaxxer.

Onlooker
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Onlooker
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

The driver did not have the right to violently assault anyone, however.

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago
Reply to  Onlooker

No he didn’t (and he clearly should not have). But what the bicyclist did is equivalent to splitting in someone face.

I cant say I would be highly personally offended if a bicyclist did the same to me. They are basically saying “fuck you, Im more important.”

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Onlooker

agreed

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Yes, AS MUCH, not more ,as the law currently grants them.

Mr. BearD
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Mr. Bear
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

If I was going 12mph in a car I’ll move over and ley people by

Josephine
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Josephine
2 months ago

I agree with you to a degree. It’s not a moral thing, it’s just common sense. 1. The caveat to every right of way law in California is, “but you can’t insist on it.” 2. Pedestrians always have the right of way in California, but that doesn’t make steel less strong when it impacts flesh.
3. “Because I was right” doesn’t make one less culpable of engaging in a power struggle.
Oh, Let the cryers, cry. Go get glad in these same pants you just got mad in.
It doesn’t make the bicyclist at fault for his own assault.
The situation is a reminder to us all that anger and rage are flooding the American bloodstream at this time, a reminder for us to use extra patience when engaging with situations that seem even potentially volatile.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  Josephine

“The situation is a reminder to us all that anger and rage are flooding the American bloodstream at this time, a reminder for us to use extra patience when engaging with situations that seem even potentially volatile.”

Well said…

Act accordingly….

We could very well end up at each other’s throats because the billionaire funded, controlled demolition team is much better at avoiding our wrath.

George Head
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George Head
2 months ago

You should read the CA Vehicle Code. You’re an idiot. Cyclists have the same rights to the road as motorists (except on limited-access highways, and even then there are exceptions).

https://www.onlinedmv.com/registration/vehicle-codes/ca-california.html

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  I like stars

Looks like there’s been too much victim blaming and not enough critical thinking about cause and effect

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Seeing stars
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Seeing stars
2 months ago

Like poor people pay a sizable amount of the taxes in the US. And like foreign aid is always directed at helping poor people anyway. More than half of US foreign aid is for long term development and military aid to support US policies. Only about 15% goes to humanitarian aid. Of course inside the US 65% of the budget goes to humanitarian aid- from social security to WIC. Seems a lot of critical thinking is needed indeed.

Old TiredD
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Old Tired
2 months ago
Reply to  Seeing stars

Social Security should be paying recipients MORE not less.

Seeing Stars
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Seeing Stars
2 months ago
Reply to  Old Tired

Never said anything about too much being spent. Just that it was.

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Old Tired

So, Warren Buffet should be getting more welfare, err, I mean social security?

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

I would be surprised if Buffet was actually collecting it. He gives billions away and still gets richer. I’d bet if he had never given any away he’d be worth more than Musk.

Fred elliott
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Fred elliott
2 months ago
Reply to  Seeing stars

What the he’ll does any of this bullshit have to do with a old guy who feels entitled to hold up traffic just to be a duck and getting punched in the head for it, answer- nothing.

Jim
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Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  Seeing stars

You win the non-sequiter of the week award.

ThrivalistD
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Thrivalist
2 months ago
Reply to  Seeing stars

Your sources regarding 65% of our national budget goes to humanitarian aid?

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  I like stars

Think about how hard it would be for each of these participants to accept responsibility for their position.

40 billion dollars to Ukraine is what happens when America can’t manage it’s checks and balances

Last edited 2 months ago by Corporate Serfdom
Villian
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Villian
2 months ago

I see said the blind guy. It’s cheaper to just run over people on a mountain road, and Russia’s unprovoked attack on its’ neighbor is somehow the fault of the United States budget.
But now your inhumanity makes some sense, after all; what would you expect from a person who supports the massacre of civilians, bombing hospitals and schools not to mention raping children. Why of course the United States should stand four square behind old Vlad, and while we’re at it we should give back Alaska. I think we should just send back Melania. 🙄
BTW; let’s be sure those rape victims don’t have access to abortion, or even pre-natal care, because as you’ll be glad to explain; rape is always the woman’s fault. And those lazy taker infants! Oy! Who’s gonna pay for that?

Jim
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Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

Nice. Thanks for saying it. (btw, no ‘ needed for “its”, unless a contraction for “it is”.)

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

FUCK THE OLIGARCHS, and the bootlickers who enable them, oh, and try to get along out there, there’s plenty of hair triggered people who have nothing better to do than put a fist into your face.

Act accordingly

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

 “Russia’s unprovoked attack on its’ neighbor is somehow the fault of the United States budget.”

Oh, but Russia’s unprovoked attack is somehow the fault of the US taxpayer, therefore we the people should “budget” $40Billion, that we don’t have, to Ukraine, because Zelensky’s less of a piece of shit than Putin? 

Liberalism is a mental disorder! 

Don T MattaD
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Don T Matta
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

CONservative ignorance is a full blown Mental Illness!!!

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago

Are you gonna tell that to a guys face, then cry about them rights you seem to think you DESERVE?

Not Blind
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Not Blind
2 months ago

Uh oh! I found an insult! Oh, and it’s been up for over half a day. Rules for some, but not for others?

Seeing Stars
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Seeing Stars
2 months ago
Reply to  I like stars

Yes, anyone who assaults someone simply because they got angry over being frustrated, even after the frustration has ended, is a thorough going jackass. But victim blaming might be too harsh a response for this comment.

“Taking the lane” is legally permitted point because it makes the bicyclist “visible” and so less at risk from motor vehicles. It can also, in theory, keep a motorist from unsafely passing on a narrow road without shoulders. In this case, since he was getting honked at, being overlooked was not an issue. And being honked at several times made it totally clear. So unless there was no place for a bicycist to pull over to let this idiot go by, he pushing the other guy’s buttons deliberately, legal right or no legal right. It merits thinking about.

Villian
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Villian
2 months ago
Reply to  Seeing Stars

I’d suggest you double check the vehicle code before you start running up on cyclist. There is NO EXCUSE for what happened to this man. NONE.

Seeing Stars
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Seeing Stars
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

No excuse but there was something that was in his control.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

What if that old man used to be a young punk???

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

“There is NO EXCUSE for what happened to this man.”

The cyclist was being a dick and has undoubtedly learned some manners.
Let me guess, you believe in mandatory vaccines, you believe Antifa/BLM have the right to violence, and you believe this guy has the right to be an asshole cause the VC says so, but you don’t believe in the 1st or 2nd amendment?

It’s like I have crystal ball.

Party pooper
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Party pooper
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

Nah. I’m with you on this case, think antifa is a lame name, but am an antifascist. Black Lives Matter doesn’t have a right to violence, but actually in most situations, most people out for BLM whatevers, don’t engage in violence. So it’s a non issue. I believe in the 1st., (Thanks for the forum Kym), but think the 2nd amendment is out of date, and invalid reasoning for gun ownership, BUT WHO’s GONNA STOP ME? You can grease up, and bury a sixty year old AK, and it will work fine for generations. We may disagree on politics, but it’d be fun hanging out. Welcome to AMERICA bubba!

Party pooper
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Party pooper
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

Legally, I can walk into a huddle of homeless guys in the street, and insult their moms. Is that wise?

Maximus
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Maximus
2 months ago
Reply to  I like stars

Many, if not a majority, of bike riders act like assholes. Not saying this guy did, but just watch how they act on the road.

Joe
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Joe
2 months ago
Reply to  Maximus

You’re right. “Roadies,” are the WORST! Why they choose to ride Fieldbrook Road, among many other narrow roads, is beyond me.

Jim
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Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  Joe

Because it’s enjoyable and drivers need to chill and be patient. But you knew that, right?

Don T MattaD
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Don T Matta
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Not just that but also because Usually there is less traffic to deal with!!!

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

I cant even imagine putting my entertainment over other peoples right to commute.

Jim
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Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  Maximus

Look in the mirror. Bicyclers are the vast minority of road-users. If you can’t deal with that, you’re the asshole.

Jim
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Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Because it’s enjoyable and drivers need to chill and be patient. But you knew that, right?

Party pooper
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Party pooper
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

A hypothetical: a flat bed is driving Hwy 36 East. The driver is a staunch Trump supporter. The truck is hauling a load of new recumbant bikes to an orphanage. A Tesla is driving to RedBluff with three elder BLM activists for the giant Pelosi rally. The slow truck is not legally obligated to pull over until there are five antifa busses behind him. Should everyone just be patient, and enjoy the ride?

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Look At the minority of people who have this world by the balls…

That kid needs to be trained to harness his anger into pursuits that will hold the true minority to account for this shit show

Some guy
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Some guy
2 months ago
Reply to  I like stars

To be fair, there are tons of bicyclists who ride around with this elitist attitude. Have you ever heard the phrase “would you rather be right or rather be happy?”. It’s usually applied to relationships. Elitist bicyclists choose to be right instead of being happy. It goes a bit further, they tend to choose being right over staying safe. Always citing laws of the road as if it’s going to swing people’s opinions.

My dad is a bicyclist. He does this same stuff too. I love him but he’s a pain in everybody’s butt riding around as if he’s a car.

Humboldt Hill guy
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Humboldt Hill guy
2 months ago

I would say that the cyclist was 100% in the legal right — that bicyclists are considered moving vehicles and have the right to the full access to the lane. Additionally, cyclists are encouraged on narrow roadways to take the lane.

But you are correct, if some belligerent road rage assh*le is behind me on a narrow country road honking the sh*t out his horn — better to signal to pull over and let the asswipe pass.

In the meanwhile — I think it’s good that everyone now knows his license plate and hope the cops catch up to him — a 25 year old hyper macho dude beating up a guy in his 60’s — now that’s a real man.

Seeing Stars
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Seeing Stars
2 months ago

We’re all lucky that most people are more sane than that driver. And most bicyclists just want to get along too.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago

(Corruption is legal BTW).

When you are held to account for your expectations , just recognize the laws of the jungle. People in 3rd world countries could teach us a few things about the reality of life.

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago

To be logically consistent, bicyclist should be subject to laws preventing he obstruction of traffic and minimum speed.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago

25 mph zone.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago

what if the cyclist were a tractor? speed limit 25, short road, passing available just ahead.

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

Obvy, a tractor can’t just move over to allow room like a bicycle almost always can.

William Harmon
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William Harmon
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

what if the kid were an ambulance transporting your relative who is having a life or death crisis where ever second equates to a withering chance of survival?

lights and sirens, you say.

what if it’s a woman in labor trying to make it to health services?

what if it’s a father trying to drive his son who’s arm is mangled from an accident with farm equipment, and is bleeding out?

maritime law dictates that you yield to vessels of greater mass. seems common sense here.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago

25 mph zone, short enough to wait

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago

“Next time , yield, and save yourself a trip to the doctor.”

Spot, fucking, on!

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

https://battleplan.news/watch?id=627f96d5b7204774a396c1cd

Too many people are majoring in the minors

bobbi mileham
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bobbi mileham
2 months ago

There’s usually space to give a bicyclist. And the time to do so.
Both are required to obey the rules of the road. The bicyclist was in more jeapordy of injury than a driver surrounded by metal. All the driver had to do was hang back and wait until it was safe to pass. Enjoy the ride.

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago
Reply to  bobbi mileham

All the cyclist has to do is pull over to the shoulder.

Susan Nolan
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Susan Nolan
2 months ago

As a bicyclist, I may move to the edge of the road or even stop and get off to allow cars to pass, especially on narrow route with light traffic like Big Lagoon Road. Politeness, safety, peace of mind.

Thesteve4761
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Thesteve4761
2 months ago

Up yours.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  Thesteve4761

If I was into that kinda thing… if not, you’d be the old man complaining about his rights.

Farce
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Farce
2 months ago

This is another case for capital punishment. We will be told this violent angry punk can’t be put in prison because the prisons are too crowded…because we are housing violent murderers that shouldn’t even be there anymore. Misplaced Compassion is to blame

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

This probably will be moderated and no one will see it. I agree, this young thug needs some serious institutional attitude adjustment. As a former full-time bicyclist this dick deserves to be punished.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  NorCalNative

As a full time cyclist, you should know about yielding to traffic, and taking responsibility for not impeding the flow of other traffic.

We all have to take responsibility for our actions.

Even the Ukrainians need to clean up their own mess

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
2 months ago

Dude chill out and read your DMV handbook on bicycles. You might learn something.

Your ignorance on this issue is not cool.

Seeing Stars
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Seeing Stars
2 months ago
Reply to  NorCalNative

The point trying to be made is not reading the rights of a bicyclist. It’s not about rights at all. I was with a person once who grabbed my arm and pulled me into busy traffic saying “we have the right of way.” I told her that would be look nice on her tombstone.

William Harmon
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William Harmon
2 months ago
Reply to  NorCalNative

just because The State advocates a behavior, doesn’t make it Right.

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago
Reply to  NorCalNative

The law is simply wrong here.

Villian
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Villian
2 months ago

Yo serfdom! Have you ever called the police? What about the fire department?
Really? 😱
Well I guess the next time a brushfire is running at your property you’ll be responsible and clean up your own mess.
Just remember; using those other services is in face socialism, and for a person like you I’m sure that’ll never do. 🙄

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

I always yield to traffic that needs to get somewhere faster than me, it’s simple , it’s easy, especially on a bike.

How about when that cyclist is holding up a fire engine or ambulance or someone late for work, does that not seem fair?

Villian
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Villian
2 months ago
Reply to  Farce

Dude! Put down that pipe!
Most of your commentary is simply immature and inane, but that one was off the hook. Day drinking much?

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  Villian

Says the guy who thinks it’s just too much to ask for a bicycle to scootch over a foot or two instead of being an arrogant dick.

Oh, that’s right, you’re on the side of the arrogant dick. Nevermind.

O'Quivvy
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O'Quivvy
2 months ago

“The victim said he attempted to explain…”
Near fatal error.
That was the victim’s best opportunity to cut his losses.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  O'Quivvy

There is no explanation which honors the suspect. Shame on you for victim blaming.

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

“There is no explanation which honors the suspect.”

Teaching arrogant, dickhead bycyclists manners is not honorable?

Thousand dollars the bike guy was a lib. Any takers?

Boogie Brew
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2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

The arrogant dickhead is clearly the perp who attacked an elderly individual. Thousand bucks says they are a right-wing oil burner without care for fellow man or the planet. [edit]

Larry Jetski
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Larry Jetski
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

If I see a guy yelling, pounding on cars, yelling at people, machete on his belt, walking down the street, am I honoring him, or just avoiding him as I cross the street?

Ten_of_DiamondsD
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Ten_of_Diamonds
2 months ago

The perp likely drives that road on a regular basis…

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 months ago

Or he is from somewhere else in California and is at some vacation rental or something like that. Which maybe why he hasn’t been arrested.

Seeing Stars
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Seeing Stars
2 months ago

Or he’s on meth and doesn’t care. Or not on meth and still doesn’t care.

Ten_of_DiamondsD
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Ten_of_Diamonds
2 months ago

In the Facebook comments, a person identified the perp as a neighbor.

A license plate number only works if the registration is current and valid. Some people buy vehicles used and never register the vehicle, or if they move, don’t update the address. There are other issues that I will not list as it will only serve to give wrong doers more ideas.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago

Please forward your information to Humboldt County Sheriff.

Ten_of_DiamondsD
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Ten_of_Diamonds
2 months ago
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It’s not my information. It’s publicly posted in the Facebook comments on Redheaded Blackbelt’s page under the post of this story.

Don Burget
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Don Burget
2 months ago

they have his plate number, go get him

dgale
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dgale
2 months ago
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You’re assuming it is his plate and not just the plate on the car Tweaker McTweakface decided to steal today so he can drive around and be a spun out tool.

Prometheus
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Prometheus
2 months ago

Drivers get very frustrated following a bicycle going 10 MPH, especially when they think they own the lane. Common sense and sharing the road probably would avoided this situation. Driving below the speed limit entails risk and danger. If you drive significantly slower than the normal flow of traffic, there is a chain reaction. Drivers behind you will become impatient and start jumping from lane to lane.
However, the driver acted most inappropriately.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 months ago
Reply to  Prometheus

Are you familiar with the road this happened on? Because your scenarios don’t really apply where this happened. Anyone who thinks they should be able to barrel down the roads in that area is an a$$hole. Which he proved by beating up an older man.

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago

How do you know he was “barreling down the road”?

Prometheus
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Prometheus
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

Someone sounds biased…

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

because i was there at full throttle, pushing max, at least 20 mph in a 25. no reason for jack to throttle, nor punch,

Prometheus
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Prometheus
2 months ago

Adhering to the speed limit isn’t considered to be barreling down the road, by any stretch of the imagination. A lack of common courtesy resulted in road rage.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  Prometheus

not

Hum Doc
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Hum Doc
2 months ago
Reply to  Prometheus

“A lack of common courtesy resulted in road rage.”?
No.
A fellow deliberately chose to commit assault. It is that simple.

Corporate Serfdom
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Corporate Serfdom
2 months ago
Reply to  Hum Doc

Choices were made, things could have gone differently, but people are getting tired of listening to people explain shit, just move your ass to the shoulder and wave.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  Prometheus

Short narrow road in park setting, 25 mph. Auto driver, at 7:45 AM, was clearly out of his mind.

Buzz
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Buzz
2 months ago

There’s no excuse for that kind of violent reaction.
But geez, what point are you trying to prove by impeding traffic and not just getting out of the way for someone to pass?
That’s common sense for cycling in rural areas.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  Buzz

25 mph zone

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

your point?

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

no reason for aggressive driver in such a zone.

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

How do you know he was aggressive driving?

Larry Jetski
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Larry Jetski
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

Wishful thinking. There’s the way things should be, and the way they are. Obviously no reason, and yet for reasons unknown, this was an especially aggressive driver. Best avoided. Maybe next time, save the bike-right-of-way lesson for the Pri-i around the Plaza.

StoptheplanetIwantoffD
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StoptheplanetIwantoff
2 months ago

“I was lawfully maintaining my lane” translates to “I was being a complete jackass and impeding the flow of traffic”.

John
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John
2 months ago

Oh, pu-leeze. [edit]

Buzz
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Buzz
2 months ago
Reply to  John

I think the lane-maintaining cyclist is the real Donkey here.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  Buzz

25 mph zone

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

point??

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

cyclist was not impeding traffic, point.

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

Nice diversion. Are you running for office? That has nothing to do with the 25 MPH speed limit. You lose.

Don T MattaD
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Don T Matta
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

On your head???

John
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John
2 months ago

You don’t know anything. Admittedly, I don’t know anything either. Nobody does, except the two directly involved in this incident and any potential witnesses. I believe the guy who said he got sucker-punched, though.

Larry Jetski
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Larry Jetski
2 months ago
Reply to  John

Most of us believe the punchee too. Seeing where things went wrong, doesn’t mean the puncher was right. Is anyone debating that the driver got worked up enough to assault the guy.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 months ago

How do you “translate” the driver who was so impatient that he then took the time to stop and beat someone up.

Has it occurred to any of you remotely defending this that maybe the driver was already an asshole who though HE owned the road.

A road, again, that is not one anyone should be in a hurry on.

Larry Jetski
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Larry Jetski
2 months ago

Again, should be, vs., is.

Old TiredD
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Old Tired
2 months ago

If you want off the planet, then get off. You’re totally wrong.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago

Short narrow road in park setting, speed limit 25 mph. How was cyclist “impeding flow of traffic”?

Larry Jetski
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Larry Jetski
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

25mph-10mph=15mph difference. We already established the Maxima Douche was a jerk, so who’s to say he didn’t WANT to go 35?

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago

Exactly!

Yep Humboldt
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Yep Humboldt
2 months ago

what a low life loser coward this wannabe tough young jerk is.. hope he’ll be recognized and found.. I mean with the license plate, what is taking so long…?

O'Quivvy
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O'Quivvy
2 months ago
Reply to  Yep Humboldt

What is taking so long?
HumCo law enforcement, that’s what.

Maximus
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Maximus
2 months ago

hmmmm

Last edited 2 months ago by Maximus
Eurekan
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Eurekan
2 months ago

Seems kind of dumb that the authorities have the plate number yet they’re still looking for the suspect. Internet says it’s a 2010 maxima sold in Texas in 2016. With that newer license plate it seems like it was recently registered to a new owner and new plates were issued.

Joe
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Joe
2 months ago
Reply to  Eurekan

Go apply! The authorities are in desperate need of good help!

John Adams
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John Adams
2 months ago

You may be entitled to use half the road just like a car but when you are empeding traffic you are supposed to pull over and let people pass. But I think the guy that hit you is a asshole, just like you for not pulling over.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  John Adams

Very short, narrow road, park setting, speed limit 25. What if the cyclist were a tractor?

redwoodninja
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redwoodninja
2 months ago
Reply to  matthew

A tractor would be required to have a slow moving vehicle sign the bicycles are not

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  redwoodninja

nonetheless an approaching vehicle would have to yield to a slow moving obstacle ahead of they. fucking slow down and mind each other,

Al L Ivesmatr
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Al L Ivesmatr
2 months ago

Over the last 40 years of road and mountain biking, the best offense is to practice defense by yielding to tons larger things which can run you over and smoosh you. Yield in my mind doesn’t mean stopping as that is unrealistic (unless absolutely necessary which is rare) but instead means getting as far over on the side of the road as possible while maintaining riding speed and allowing the big things to pass. In that way you will not be hit. And never ever stop if some mad man in a car tries to impede your passage and confront you in his car. Ride around or turn back by all means necessary and avoid the lunatic. It’s like an ant versus an elephant. Natural Selection.

justsayin
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justsayin
2 months ago

Very objective reporting. Was there any way you could have said “The Victim” more? Looks like you let “The Victim” write the story because we all know no self entitled bicyclists ever intentionally assert their right to clog up the road based on what they want and their self entitled attitudes.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 months ago
Reply to  justsayin

I hope you are not one of the folks that complain about the crazy speeders and tailgating on 36 or elsewhere.

Because their “argument” could be the same. “Get out of my way”.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  justsayin

The road in question is off the highway in a park setting, very short, very narrow, posted speed limit 25 mph. There is no “clogging up the road” nor “self entitled attitudes”. FYI.

rollin
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rollin
2 months ago
Reply to  justsayin

Exactly! They ignore every stop sign, lane change and every other “road rule” but then wanna throw the DMV handbook in your face to justify being road hogging assholes.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  rollin

yuck

Jim
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Jim
2 months ago

Having worked at Big Lagoon Elementary, there are some real psychos in that area.

Dogbiter
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Dogbiter
2 months ago

It’s said here that bicyclists have the same rights as cars on a public road. Does that extend to things like stopping at stop signs? Signaling before a turn is made? Riding on the
sidewalk? Riding two abreast at 15 mph (or less) on a posted 30 mph road?
All these are things I see every day. If you have the same rights as cars…….. act like it! I drive West End Road every day and the crap I’ve seen bicyclists do on that narrow, winding road would take pages to relate.

Prometheus
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Prometheus
2 months ago
Reply to  Dogbiter

You nailed it…Never force the issue…It’s 4,000+ pound vehicle against a 200 pound bicyclist. Al Ivesmatr made a logical contribution above…

Mariahgirl
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2 months ago
Reply to  Dogbiter

Yes, I see a lot of bikers riding two abreast or riding closer to the traffic lanes than the side of the road and they make no move to get out of the way and most don’t stop at stop signs. I’m sorry but I think there are roads bicyclist should avoid because there is no room for them and cars to ride safely, the road going to Fort Bragg is one. The work being done on some of our highways is to add bike lanes and I don’t see bicyclists paying for any of it. If they want to use the roads maybe they should have to register the bikes and have insurance just like a motor vehicle.

Grumpy Old GruntD
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Grumpy Old Grunt
2 months ago
Reply to  Mariahgirl

Kneeland Road is especially dangerous. Two bicycles riding side by side without regards to traffic is an accident waiting to happen.

Ten_of_DiamondsD
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Ten_of_Diamonds
2 months ago
Reply to  Dogbiter

Dogbiter, I see motorists run stop signs, not signal 200 ft in advance of turning, parking on or across sidewalks, staring at their phones while driving, and cutting over the centerline in turns, to name a few things. All this I see everyday!

Motorists are driving vehicles that can inflict way more damage than any bicycle, so which road user has the greater responsibility to operate in a lawful manner?

Tony SD
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Tony S
2 months ago

This piece of trash should spend at least 8-10 years behind bars. This POS is a vicious animal, a danger to society and needs to serve justice.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 months ago

It makes me uncomfortable when vehicles follow closely behind so I always pull over at the first opportunity and let them by no matter the road. Easy for me.

Hum Doc
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Hum Doc
2 months ago

Hence you are still around and able to post on this forum.

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
2 months ago

Key words being…first opportunity. Was the cyclist given a safe chance to pull over?

Teach our youngest to practice PEACE!!
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Teach our youngest to practice PEACE!!
2 months ago

As a Country and a society we have become an angry nation. Everyone seems to want to blame everyone else. Why? I suppose Covid-19 is a reason. But it can’t be the only reason. The Country has lived with a violent history. The Gov’t has spent more dollars tax dollars on weapons then on finding ways to make life more human. I served in Vietnam where our military killed 3.2 million Vietnamese citizens. Nearly 59,000 young men and some women average age 19.5 years old. B-52’s dropping bombs from 70,000 feet and not taking into consideration horizonal winds at lower levels moving the ordinance to places where villages were located. Or our troops burning down villages because the soldiers believed there were Viet Cong were hiding there. Why? All because we HAD to win. We haven’t been successful beginning with Korea. The budget of wars would most likely surpass the costs of health insurance for every American. The Costs of paying for everyone who wanted to attain a post-secondary degree. The Country’s infrastructures would be the best. Along with Covid-19 maybe the amount of money we spend on our our military is out of control. Making weapons has become a major industry. We have a reputation of being a violent people. Many Countries in this world dislike us including both Countries that border us. Why? Currently there are too many places in our own Country where we dislike each other. We are a multi-ethnic people and kill each other because of that. We may have the World’s worse corrupt Government. Why? When has being TOO MUCH not enough? We need to teach our youngest PEACE. It’s too late for us.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 months ago

And now we do it again in Ukraine

Teach our youngest to practice PEACE!!
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Teach our youngest to practice PEACE!!
2 months ago

Exactly, and for what and where will we next use our weapons inappropriately? Wherever the Military Corporations insist the Congress and President elected order us to start another war. And our young men and women will come back in body bags including the murder and destruction of foreign men, women, children their houses and churches and hospitals and anything else standing. We are no better than Putin. Is that what America has become? Thank you for your actual unintended nonservice!!!

Zipline
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Zipline
2 months ago

3000 lb vehicle vs 125 lb bike + fragile human. His obituary can read “He had the right of way”

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago

THE LAW IS WRONG! Bicyclist should have to pull over and yield to motor vehicles. Otherwise a horribly unsafe situation is created as car unexpectedly come upon a cyclist doing 9% of the posted speed limit without warning as the round a corner.

In this case the law is clearly and directly counter to basic courtesy, which is why drivers become justifiably irate and violent.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  well . . .

violence is NEVER a valid answer.

well . . .
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well . . .
2 months ago

Refusing to move over for motorist (even though you dont have to) is on par with motorist throwing thumb tacks all over the road. Two wrongs wont make a right so please people, do not throw out thumb tacks to deter cyclists from the roads! Just because they are unbelievably rude does not mean we have to sink to their level.

The real reason cyclist refuse to move to the shoulder is that the types of tires they use are extremely sustainable to puncture, and shoulders often have sharp rocks, sticks, ect. You would think that they would upgrade to a bit tougher tire so that they can be courteous and take the shoulder (or bike lane) as needed. The other reason is that they do not want to lose momentum on hills. I though we are not supposed to be in any hurry?

If cyclist comport to basic human courtesy, motorist wont have to do things like throw thumb tack s all over the roads.

Grumpy Old GruntD
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Grumpy Old Grunt
2 months ago

lecturing a loser that stops his car, gets out and approaches you not smart. Maybe in a perfect world but not today. Rage is in nowadays.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 months ago

No matter who you think had the right a way, It’s illegal to punch anyone in the face.
The perp should pay all damages and medical costs, have license suspended for one year, therefor doomed to riding a bicycle for 1 yr.
Bicycle riders should also need to be licensed and insured.
The way they ride aggravates, and scares the heck out of motorists.

And for some reason I thought bike riders were supposed to ride facing traffic.
Did they change that?

Last edited 2 months ago by HotCoffee
Tony SD
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Tony S
2 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

In regard to cyclists required to ride against traffic, that has never been the case. That would be against the law.

With that said, pedestrians have to walk against the traffic, which is law.

Cyclists scaring the heck out of motorists???

Richard Finch
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Richard Finch
2 months ago

At least the victim can console himself with the knowledge that he was in the right and refused to let the perpetrator exploit him. Maybe the perp even learned something from the victim’s lecture on rules of the road. Maybe the victim learned something too: that sometimes it’s better (or safer) to let these things go. Even when you are in the right.

Last edited 2 months ago by Richard Finch
Richard Finch
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Richard Finch
2 months ago
Reply to  Richard Finch

Even when you are in the right.

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago

While bicyclist may have held entitled lawful attitude, there is no logic which results in being violently assaulted. Hate on bicycles all you want, still a society where violence is an answer is not best.

George Head
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George Head
2 months ago

Where are the police on this?

Laura Hall
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2 months ago

Driving AP road all the time in my old Toyota when I see a car coming up behind me I pull over asap. It’s simple road ethics. DMV manual can state whatever it states it’s doing the right thing like getting the fuck out of the way…..

matthew
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matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  Laura Hall

Big Lagoon is a park, not at all similar to AP.