Interview With Bob McKee in 2016 Explores the Connection Between Cannabis and Solar Power

When Bob McKee passed away in January, a library of northwestern California knowledge slipped away from this earth. But luckily, a filmmaker had captured some of that library in the form of an interview.

In 2016, Jeff Spies spoke with him. Spies told us, “We filmed the interview as part of the production of a documentary film on the birth of the solar PV industry. We interviewed Bob several years ago to capture his story of settling in Southern Humboldt and helping create the community of homesteaders that was instrumental in launching the solar PV industry. Our documentary is called “Solar Roots – the Pioneers of PV” and you can view a teaser clip at this link. [Or see below.]

A quote sure to ignite controversy from the Solar Roots trailer: “Thank god for the marijuana business. That’s what made solar happen.”

The interview With Bob McKee delves into that connection but mostly explores the roots of the Back to the Land movement and the changes from the Sixties through the Eighties.

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Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago

Solar power is great, off-grid, but has become the “dual pane window” of the modern homeowner…

Solar is a great feeder of salespeople, the latest scam for “tin-men”, and, “Solar City” enriched some of the richest, like Elon Musk, the world’s most effective con-man…

Blaming the rise of solar electricity on the marijuana “industry” seems overly simplistic, and I remember a time when solar panels were inefficient, expensive, and unreliable…

My neighbors, a well heeled bunch much more wealthy than myself, are one by one installing these things on their roofs, while I contend that there are vast sections of unused federally owned lands that could easily be covered with the things, making electric power cheap and generally available far into the future, without each homeowner being coerced into owning his own “power company”, in order to charge his “plug-in hybrid car” without paying PG&E…

It’s a scam, folks, if you can afford to be scammed…

You homesteaders, enjoy your remote location and your private systems, but remember, you are a tiny minority, not the gen-pop…

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
2 years ago

True, a very privileged community of self important weed growers wanted all the comforts of the city, on dusty backroads.
I also enjoy solar, but it’s no panacea.
batteries for storage are a big reason why.
Not surprising the video didn’t mention the dark side of solar(the batteries).
The wire runs also take valuable resources like copper and aluminum.
Humans, even todays native Americans, just dont live natural lifestyles, so let’s not be too proud of ourselves.
Imagine 8 billion people powered by solar tech.
I’m sure the cumulative effect wouldn’t be much better than the oil extracted from the earth.
We are the only species trying to harness electrical power for our frivolous desires.

willow creeker
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2 years ago

Bobs point is that the mj biz brought in homesteaders in the hills, who were the ‘pioneers’ of off grid solar. That was happening decades before your rich neighbors were putting grid tie solar on their roof. The extra spending money was critical to supporting the local solar industry back in the 80s/90s.
Your other points are valid but don’t apply to this history lesson.

Fack Chuck
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Fack Chuck
2 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Home Power Magazine was my gateway to Solar/RE in the ’80’s and ’90’s. I don’t recall there being much mention of cannabis in those pages. (Perhaps if there had been then the magazine might still be in business?)

https://www.homepower.com/

Cetan Bluesky
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Cetan Bluesky
2 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Thank you.

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
Reply to  willow creeker

Crediting marijuana with the development of solar is overly simplistic, but you believe what you want…

Go back and read the “Mother Earth News” from the early 1970’s regarding homesteading, solar and wind power…

Marijuana Farmers may have developed local solar options, but many people in other areas conducted the development of solar/wind electricity, without growing any marijuana and without considering marijuana “essential”…

We are hooked up to PG&E, and I consider homeowner solar/batteries/electric cars to be too much risk of fire, and too expensive for most persons lucky enough to own homes, like myself.

Personal solar systems are lovely, if you can afford them. Electric cars like Fiskers and Teslas and even Hondas, are just too expensive, when a Honda Accord Hybrid costs less than $40,000 and has a projected lifespan of 10 years…

Teslas cost too much, but, they are becoming common with the techies in SF…

My daughter fights the whole paradigm, as a member of the group who refuses to own a personal vehicle at all, which is a sensible choice where UBER and pick-up rental cars are easily available.

Careful stewardship of the planet does not include flying empty jetliners, growing worthless crops in sensitive areas, and gross consumption of questionable consumer products that have to be trucked all over the place, including growing media (soil), water delivery, and gigantic V-8/Diesel powered pickups…

Mission Impossible
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Mission Impossible
2 years ago

Yes, but there are two sets of rules, and unfortunately it has made it very expensive to compete with the Corporate model.

Skunk 1
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Skunk 1
2 years ago

I replaced all my dual-pane windows with single pane. Cools down faster in the winter, heats up quicker in the summer, and I can hear what’s going on outside.

thetallone
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thetallone
2 years ago
Reply to  Skunk 1

Huh? You made your home less energy-efficient? Am I missing something?

Mission Impossible
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Mission Impossible
2 years ago
Reply to  thetallone

You forget the importance of air exchange

moviedad
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moviedad
2 years ago
Reply to  thetallone

The Joke?

moviedad
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moviedad
2 years ago

The ‘Musk-anatti’ are aware of you now.

izzy
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izzy
2 years ago

It was – and still is – a safer alternative to Aladdin lamps.

Panthera Onca
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Panthera Onca
2 years ago

When the car companies go to electric vehicles only, there will be no way for off grid homes to charge them. It is impossible to charge an 85KwH battery off grid every night. Ford will stop internal combustion in 2030, others will follow shortly thereafter. The old gas or diesel truck will skyrocket in price along with fuel. People will leave the land to move to town or have 440 volts of PG&E power from nukes, diesel generation, shitty hydro, and coal run to their off grid home/farm. Sounds like progress.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
2 years ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

The government fails to realize that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction,

qwerty
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qwerty
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

And what exactly are they failing to realize, specific to this topic?

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
2 years ago
Reply to  qwerty

That there will not be enough energy to power everything without fossil fuels

qwerty
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qwerty
2 years ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

Why would you need to charge it every night? If you’re on a homestead and you have to drive to town every day, you’re doing it wrong.

Lazy Lightning
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Lazy Lightning
2 years ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

A/C Coupling with a small grid tie inverter will charge a car off grid

Barf Heinz
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Barf Heinz
2 years ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

Progress is an illusion, humans have inhabited this planet for 0.001% of it’s existance. And what about when the sun goes to sleep?

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Penny
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Penny
2 years ago
Reply to  Barf Heinz

The sun falls asleep in 500
Million years from now so calm down down on giving up.

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 years ago
Reply to  Panthera Onca

If California switches over to mostly solar and windmills for our electric power and goes electric for everything (cars, etc), our power situation is going to have to get disastrous before the political party controlling California that got us into the mess will admit the fiasco. That may take many years.

After that, it is going to take quite a few years before sufficient nuke, diesel, hydro, natural gas, and coal power plants can be built and brought on line.

In that extended period when our electrical power is a fiasco, California will mostly be like a 3rd world state with small 1st world areas behind walls.

Jeff Spies
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2 years ago

Kym, Thanks for sharing, and I look forward to showing the public release of the film in SoHum once it is completed. Bob was a great storyteller, and played a key role in helping launch the solar PV revolution by creating the off grid communities that helped pioneer solar home power.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Spies

Did his family not participate in the genocide of native people’s? Or we just gonna look past that? Not saying he wasn’t a good fella, but I mean, the woke community isn’t gonna jump on that? Seems like a glaring reality that the McKee family surely snuffed out some folks to get all their land holdings, no??

qwerty
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qwerty
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

It is something that gets considered these days when a person’s legacy comes up.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

All the time.. but only when it fits whatever narrative we are trying to portray or follow

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Yes Kym, people do.
I believe you wrote that you were Antifa, and most of those types believe in the concept of collective guilt.
If we are going to tear apart history and judge it by the woke standards of the left, well then even small town founding fathers become subject to statue toppling.
I’m not for it, but the left started it

canyon oak
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canyon oak
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’m not saying that you are into collective guilt Kym, I think your better than that, but collective guilt is a standard being promoted mostly on the left nowadays, especially by those that started identifying as anti fascists back in 2016.
And yes, I do believe that most anti fascists are devotees to collective guilt, like their ACAB mantra implies.
collective guilt because is spiritually enlightened, not particularly accurate, and it’s even war inducing!
I do however feel that it’s a human thing we all do at times, when other means seem too exhaustive or invisible.. or when a chameleon political enemy seems near.
And your right about your “ he started it” quip.
All I’m trying to do with that is throw the activist lefts rules back at them.

And I’m not rippin on Bob McKee,
I’m “saying by showing”, that the fervor to criticize history, both large and small, cuts both ways.
I love the good old boys, I don’t judge them by todays standards.
The only reason why we are here, is because of them.

moviedad
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moviedad
2 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

You guys are going nowhere with that, “Antifa,” nonsense. Trying to create enemy-leftists wherever you can.
“Anti-Fascist” is not a bad thing. It will never be a bad thing.
If it ever becomes one, we’re dead as a nation.

moviedad
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moviedad
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

When it’s George Bush III? Hell yes!

Steve Lewis
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Steve Lewis
2 years ago
Reply to  qwerty

As to Bob McKee’s legacy, all the salmonid species and others that have bit the dust due to Bob’s unregulated ecological disasterous homestead subdivision developments, they will be coming to tear any McKee monuments down. They and the local tribes lost to earlier McKee types whole stole everything of value.

Justanotherperson
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Justanotherperson
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

And aren’t you also a settler colonialist descendant? You too, benefit from the genocide still going on

Smoky OG again
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Smoky OG again
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

Yer name sez it all buddy…
You Truly Are one misguided and disrespectful youth who knows nothing of the history or legacy of Bob McKee this region and the diverse community that inhabits it.
So enjoy life wherever you are but I’m pretty sure it’s under a fucking bridge.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Smoky OG again

Kind of under a bridge… But not all the way.. and factually that family is way less removed from the genocide that took place here in this region than most white European blood.. just saying.. you are welcome to your opinion and I’m always open to conversation. But insults just make you look mad, and being mad makes it seem like I rubbed a sore spot. Either way, I mean no harm
. How bout you?

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

I was just asking questions.. I’m okay with being wrong. Am I wrong? I’m not saying the McKee family did nothing constructive for people, and yes, 2/3rds of my blood comes from colonialist white settlers who certainly participated in genocide. The other half of my blood is indigenous Mayan. So maybe my perspective is different than a full blooded white? I don’t know. I’m okay with not knowing. But I do know about the history of our region, but I’ll refrain from calling names.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

Maybe you should try reading ‘Little White Father’ by Ray Raphael?

I haven’t read it, but I would like to.
I’ll bet it would be a good book.
And I’d also bet it isn’t a bad book…

Big Respect.

Real Big.

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Barf Heinz
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Barf Heinz
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

The Mayans were blood thirsty savages as well as some of our most cherished noble native Americans. And they were not a bunch of condescending keyboard warriors shaming others for their heiritage. Cheers.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Barf Heinz

Blood thirsty savages? Where’d u get that idea? Colonialist history?

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

misguided, you don’t read a lot do you?

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago

I read plenty

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

I’m sorry, I guess killing each other for sport is not blood thirsty it’s just good clean fun.

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“The Mayan Ball Game was a solemn experience, filled with ritual importance. Religious leaders attended, as did most chieftains and other government leaders. Sacred songs were sung and played. Other religious activities took place as well.

The winners of the game were treated as heroes and given a great feast. The penalty for losing a game was sometimes unusually harsh: death. The leader of the team who lost the game was sometimes killed. This fit in with the Mayan belief that human sacrifice was necessary for the continued success of the peoples’ agriculture, trade, and overall health.”

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago

I’ve read it too.. but do you really think the Europea ns were telling it like it is?

Mission Impossible
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Mission Impossible
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

Chichen itza ball court

They all spilled blood, peace is wicked mistress.

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

You should read his family history. Kym ran a great piece on him. Or did I hear it on KMUD? Dang- well anyways it sounded pretty clean on that terrible genocide. Not every old family here killed natives. Some did. Some paid others to do it for them. You’re angry? Go after the real enemy- but you’re gonna have to do some reading and educate yourself first on the subject. And sure- if ya come up w/ something real then let us know. And yeah it was KMUD one night they devoted the local news time to McKee- check it out in their archives.

Guest
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2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

Not necessarily.

Are you saying he was a good guy or not?

I don’t find anything to indicate he was anything other than a decent man. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree..

Reddick McKee, if that is who you are referring to, negotiated treaties for the Native Americans, it sounds like many of the treaties were rejected by the powers that be. I didn’t dig that deeply, but I refuse to believe Reddick McKee was a bad man just because there were very bad men back then.

I didn’t know Bob McKee personally, but I’ve always had a great deal of respect for the man, because, from what I’ve gathered,
he earned that respect, and, for me, that isn’t going to change.

Wikipedia has some good info on Reddick McKee. “Good” info.

He and Bob look a bit alike, too.

Pretty cool…

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F. Hue
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F. Hue
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Good? It was his job to take native American land, force them onto reservations and give the land to white men! So he was a little nicer about it…toot toot!

Mission Impossible
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Mission Impossible
2 years ago
Reply to  F. Hue

If you have learned anything about the history of man, it’s littered with struggle, and adversity. When nor dealing with feeding the community, you were defending your resources or trying to take others resources.

Don’t hate the player,

Hate the game.

Penny
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Penny
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Reddick McKee was also working directly with the us government for surveying and designating large tracks of Indian land to be sold for industrial purposes. His role was to asses the risk of the native population to allow the U.S survey crews to do their job safely. This
was the federal government’s way of creating economy in new areas of the country. Even if Bob’s start involved access to extremely large tracks of land confiscated by the federal government under the direction of his relatives, he had no control of that part of his story. In a way, his story of giving thousands of people an opportunity to own their own land is in alignment with the modern day reparations agenda. He sounded like a very nice and forward thinking man.

https://humboldtredwoods.org/area-history

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Penny

I literally never said Bob McKee was a bad man.. I met him several times and he was a genuine good guy.. I was just asking questions.. poking the bear, if you will.. and feathers seem to have been ruffled.

Penny
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Penny
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

I never literally said you did. I voiced my own opinion on his character. Geez, calm down. I agree with your angle and the point has mostly been missed. The left has no interest in reality, logic or personal accountability.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Was Bob related to Reddick?
Anybody know?

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Canyon oak

I can’t confirm it, but it seems very likely…

They do look quite a a bit alike…

And, just an FYI,

Just Southward of Shelter Cove, you arrive at “McKeesick Creek”, (locally known as “Dead Man’s Creek”, or simply just, “Dead Man’s”), and then, just a little further South, the next creek is “McKee Creek”…

(Probably Named for Reddick, not Bob).

It would be nice if someone could confirm if the two were related, though.

I’ve always assumed that they were.

Both of them were very land savvy.

Mission Impossible
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Mission Impossible
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

How does genocide look when it’s perpetrated against humans?

It sounds like a consistent footnote of man’s footsteps.

Heck, even when the natives perpetrated it on other tribes.

100% Profits to Charity
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100% Profits to Charity
2 years ago

David Katz and Charlie Wilson, the Solar GodFathers.

sgrocker
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sgrocker
2 years ago

Roger Herrick should be in there too

Solar Guy
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Solar Guy
2 years ago

I work in the solar industry. Our company has been in business here locally for 20 years. We mainly focus on residential solar, but do install smaller commercial arrays as well. We have been helping people switch from natural gas to all electric in their home. Our company has solar, electrical, hvac & plumbing licenses, so we can do all the work without subcontracting. By supporting residential solar you are supporting local businesses and local families. Big Utilities like PG&E have been lobbying to get rid of residential solar. They want to build huge solar arrays out in the desert then sell you back the power. Why do they want to do this? To keep control of their monopoly. If they get their way they won’t pass along savings to PG&E customers they will charge them more & more & more in the future like they always have. PG&E is ticker symbol PCG on the NYSE. They are publicly traded and really only care about profits and their shareholders. They could care less about you and I. Just look how they’ve handled the fires and now the tree removal this winter. These guys are scumbags and by removing residential solar they would be putting thousands of California residents out of work including many people in our local community. Don’t support Big Utilities and $PCG instead support local businesses and local families. Roof top solar along with a back up battery, electric heat pump instead of a gas heating & air conditioning & electric heat pump water heater instead of gas water heater is the future! Get away from gas and get into all electric homes! Thank you for your continued community support. We look forward to working on your next project!

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
Reply to  Solar Guy

40,000,000 Californians, and 140,000 Humboldtians…

How can you be opposed to providing mass scale solar and wind projects?

I guarantee that 0.000714% of the population can’t control a single thing that PG&E does, bad or good, but we need centralized energy solutions, not a bunch of wild hippie pot farmers with enough money to buy anything at all that they need, living in environmentally sensitive areas in multi-million dollar compounds on the mountaintops of the North Coast!

Playing a solar powered tape player to listen to the Grateful Dead, is one thing, growing deps using diesel generators is quite another…

Pot farmers are not the heroes of anything, and many of them are degrading the environment daily in a manner that does bring to mind the killing of Native Americans to steal their land and resources…

There is more than one way to look at this, but the Humboldt “Solar Revolution” is a “non-thing”, and solar and wind and “back to the land” was happening all over the country, from “The Farm” to Alaska…

I was fortunate to meet Bob McKee in 2013, and he impressed me as someone who worked for a living, for a long time. Like all old guys, he contained great wisdom and experience, and I am sure that he made a few bucks by selling those panels…

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago

Do you mean, 0.35%?

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 years ago

A little more info for the newbies. The whole north coast environmental movement sprang out from the first marijuana growers that tried to grow their crops on timberland. The timber companies sprayed with herbicides to kill non-conifers. The fact that they were killing the outlaw crops was just a big plus to them, because they didn’t want the growers planting on their land.

There was a major outcry. The growers used every angle that they could think of to get the spraying stopped. They Claimed birth defects, nausea, headaches and a plethora of other problems. Some true, most not.

But here we are….

Penny
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Penny
2 years ago

Wow. This might be the biggest conspiracy theory I’ve ever heard. Thank you for the laugh.

grey fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Penny

People seem to forget Rachel Carson and “Silent Spring” published in 1962. I am sure some of these marijuana growers were aware of the her and the book. Let’s give credit where credit is due.

Canyon oak
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Canyon oak
2 years ago

I think some of it might have also been cuz the purest hippies were drinking unfiltered water from the creeks like I still do, so that’s a thing to worry about when company land is in the same drainage..
Weed money is behind it all, like any other industry, nothing particularly profound.
And the internet..
The military and porn kickstarted the amazingly divisive internet, so another round of back patting all around for ruining the apple pie!

spam
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spam
2 years ago

My stepson born with a cleft palate due directly from his mom eating sprayed blackberries when she was pregnant (along roadside)…coulda sued but didn’t.

so whatevs, ernie

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 years ago
Reply to  spam

You should have sued! You’re not saying that the spraying didn’t start the environmental protests are you?

The Rotary club repairs cleft palates all over the world. You could Google it.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago

Wow, thanks Ernie,

A fine organization.

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago

Thanks for your share, Ernie…

Paul Modic
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Paul Modic
2 years ago

That’s not how it went down Ernie: The protests in the late seventies against spraying poisonous herbicides in the forests were not related to growers trying to keep lumber company land pristine for weed growing–back then there were plenty of other places to grow.

grey fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Paul Modic

Rachel Carson. “Silent Spring”

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 years ago

From the article:

“U.N. Warns of Devastating Environmental Side Effects of Electric Car Boom”

“The United Nations (U.N.) announced Sunday the electric car boom will result in a number of devastating ecological side effects for the planet.

While the shift to electric cars reflects ongoing efforts to reduce the world’s dependence on fossil fuels, the UN warns that the raw materials used to produce electric car batteries are highly concentrated in a small number of countries and their extraction and refinement pose a serious threat to the environment.

The U.N. trade body, UNCTAD, has issued a new report breaking down some of the unintended negative consequences of the shift, which include ecological degradation as well as human rights abuses.

The report notes that metals such as cobalt, lithium, manganese, copper, and minerals like graphite “play a significant role in energy-related technologies such as rechargeable batteries that are used in a variety of applications ranging from electronics to electric vehicles as well as in renewable energies such as nuclear, wind, and solar power.”

Several of these raw materials are quite rare and have few or no substitutes and they come from specific areas of the globe. More than half the world’s supply of lithium, for example, a key component of lithium-ion batteries, comes from beneath the salt flats in the Andean region of Chile, Bolivia, and Argentina.

The production of these raw materials “is often associated with undesirable environmental footprints, poor human rights and worker protection,” the report asserts.

In Chile, for instance, “lithium mining uses nearly 65% of the water in the country’s Salar de Atamaca region, one of the driest desert areas in the world, to pump out brines from drilled wells,” the U.N. notes, because nearly 2 million liters of water are needed to produce a ton of lithium.

This has “contributed to environment degradation, landscape damage and soil contamination, groundwater depletion and pollution,” the U.N. states.

In its report, UNCTAD estimates that some 23 million electric cars will be sold over the coming decade and as a result the market for rechargeable car batteries is forecast to rise by over 700 percent in just four years, from its current level of $7 billion to $58 billion by 2024.

Along with lithium, another key component of electric car batteries is cobalt, and two-thirds of all cobalt production happens in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), The U.N. observes.

The U.N. Children’s Fund (UNICEF) reports that about 20 percent of cobalt supplied from the DRC comes from artisanal mines, “where human rights abuses have been reported, and up to 40,000 children work in extremely dangerous conditions in the mines for meagre income.”

The U.N. also fears that cobalt-copper mines in DRC may contain sulphur minerals that contribute to Acid mine drainage (AMD), a phenomenon that causes pollution or contamination of surface water, thereby increasing the toxicity of rivers and drinking water.

“The environmental impacts of graphite mining are very similar to those associated with cobalt mining,” the report adds.

IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol said that in 2018, electric cars saved 40 million tons of CO2 worldwide, sufficient to reduce global temperatures by a mere 0.000018°C — or a little more than a hundred-thousandth of a degree Celsius — by the end of the century.

“If you think you can save the climate with electric cars, you’re completely wrong,” Birol said.”

End of article.

Mission Impossible
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Mission Impossible
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve Koch

Is it me or is the UN being seen as the voice of reason in the world?

The mental and psychological manipulation of our lives has entered the realm of tyranny.

This is and always has been about removing the ability to working class to defend themselves.

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve Koch

Just goes to show you, it’s always something…

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 years ago

“Thank god for the marijuana business. That’s what made solar happen.”

Pretty funny as a standalone comment but I’m sure we are missing context re: that quote. For example, maybe he just meant that local mj growers helped make solar happen around here (locally).

Below is a link to an article about the history of solar power. Feds started pushing solar power in response to the Arab oil embargo in 1973 and have been pushing it ever since.

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/solar/history-of-solar-power/

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago

What DOES it mean?

Isn’t that all that really matters?

grey fox
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2 years ago

One thing for sure is that his ancestors used solar power for a lot of things.

commenter
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1 year ago

(Testing here to see if it comes out in stanzas, looks as I posted it.
If it’s all jumbled together then no bueno)

The Weed Odyssey
Remember when we just put some seeds in the ground
and waited for October to come around?
In those early days the plants were very healthy
and after a few years we were all wealthy
From living on food stamps to thousand dollar pounds
there was never any powdery mildew around
We were beginners with the crops we were raising
it was a moment in time, the money amazing
Hiking for hours up and down mountains
looking for springs and places for gardens
There were lessons to learn especially about mold
the enemy within that destroyed the gold
Wood rats, ripoffs, and Camp claimed their share
copters invaded and the hippies got scared
We hid plants under trees and even up in them
with loppers we carved out our camo kingdom
After Camp came the nineties and the greenhouse years
hiding plants behind Reemay calmed the fears
Then the mites joined the mold in a symphony of terror
vacuuming webs off buds in the most stressed-out era
When predator bugs failed with Pyrethrum you bomb it
then the last hippie ethics were spewed like vomit
Growers counted the cash as the prices were soaring
exotic beaches in Costa Rica needed exploring
With houses and land the hippies became entangled
as the sinsemilla boomed across The Triangle
When coke came along we were like Hollywood
we snorted that sweet powder whenever we could
The frisky hippies had sex and then crying babies
and built country schools in the booming eighties
It was an unusual way for those kids to grow up
learning not to call the cops no matter what
Teenagers got the green thumb and planted out Usal
and biked the crop home in backpacks every fall
When medical was legalized the price dropped lower
every stoner from everywhere came to be a grower
If you still wanted to continue making bank
you had to grow a hundred plants of dank
It was harder to sell if your weed lacked aroma
the market wanted clones that put you in a coma
Hordes of wannabe trimmers came for awhile
foreign girls on the street greeted us with smiles
Everyone was in it for the cold hard cash
the colorful workers vanished after the crash
The whole mess was legalized in twenty sixteen
and the enforcer John Ford showed up on the scene
So that’s the story of a very green dream
we rode it for decades starting when young and lean
It was an utter surprise which dropped in our laps
a forty year boom which finally collapsed