SHUSD School Board Meeting Highlights Unruly Students, Staffing Issues and Litigation Threats From Parents Dissatisfied With COVID Protocols

Southern Humboldt UNified School District Board meeting

The most recent meeting of the Southern Humboldt Unified School District (SHUSD) School Board on January 13th highlighted some issues that the district is facing amid the ongoing pandemic. Litigation threats loom from parents unhappy with the district’s implementation of quarantine protocols; COVID illnesses and exposures stretch the already short-staffed district even thinner; On-campus parent volunteers paint a disturbing picture of “outright abusive” behavior on the Miranda Junior High campus.

COVID Protocol Questioned-

During the school board meeting, a parent voiced concerns about implemented protocols by stating, “We need to begin living with COVID which a lot of the student body and staff have gained immunity to it and re-adjust our policies where healthy children are staying in school. We need to stop harming these children with continuous practices of testing, contract tracing and quarantining.”

Masks in Court gavel

A letter to the board signed by Shelby and Trell Messenger, stated that a group of parents wanted to discuss the district’s implementation of the CDPH guidelines that they feel are ineffective and harmful. The letter states, “In particular, the contact tracing and unnecessary and ineffective quarantining of HEALTHY students needs to stop, and we are prepared to start taking more aggressive action to put an end to this arbitrary and ineffective process.”

The letter says that a San Diego judge ruled that the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) guidelines were not mandates and thus up to the discretion of the school district itself. She cited an article from the California Globe as proof that the district can disregard CDPH guidelines. However, Judge Freeland dismissed the lawsuit filed by the Let It Breathe group, stating that Governor Newsom was acting under his emergency authority in enforcing the mask mandate. Although the lawsuit filed by Let It Breathe was dismissed, the founder believes the judge’s ruling means that districts are allowed to make their own decisions regarding masking, testing and quarantining, according to a Los Angeles Times article.

The Messengers’ letter also states, “I wholeheartedly support our district and public education and want to work together on the numerous, massive issues we face as a district. However, I am not going to idly sit by and watch the mental health of our youth and the quality of the education that they receive continue to decline because our district is prioritizing policies that appear to do little (if anything) to mitigate the spread of this virus.”

When asked for comment, Jessica Willis, President of the SHUSD School Board, told us that the district is not allowed to discuss any litigation, even the threat of litigation.

In contrast to the parents asking the district to disregard the CDPH guidelines, other parents requested the district to do more.

A Redway Elementary School parent asked the district to provide an N95 mask for every student attending in-person classes. Another parent requested twice weekly testing and more transparency from the district regarding current COVID cases to allow parents to make information-based decisions about their child attending school.

“I think we can do better,” South Fork High School parent, Darcy Bell, stated.

In regard to the wide range of parental concerns, the district plans on holding a special meeting to discuss the district’s COVID protocol, although the meeting has not been scheduled at this time.

Board President Willis told us,

We understand that there’s parents out there that are upset, and we understand why they’re upset. There’s going to be mandates that we have to follow. So, we …want to be able to educate people so [that] we [can] come to an understanding of why we’re following those mandates; so that we’re at least all on the same page, even though there’s going to be people unhappy about it. [We want] our staff and parents [to] know what the protocol is, and why.

Understaffed-

Although the district was able to fill a few positions, they remain severely understaffed – a condition exacerbated by COVID illnesses and quarantine.

Three of the five  Seven of the districts ten school bus routes remain cancelled this week due to bus driver shortages. At school sites, some administrators and staff are out, some very ill, according to SHUSD Superintendent Stefanie Steffano-Davis.

Administrators applauded staff members for stepping up during the staff shortage and keeping the school sites running. Assistant Superintendent Saundi Phillips said, “I am so grateful for our staff, support staff, our admin staff, and teachers, who are weathering the storm. [The] last two weeks, …has been probably [been] the toughest two weeks I’ve ever gone through and [we] couldn’t have done it without our amazing support staff.” Phillips has been filling in at Redway Elementary School after several key staff were out sick.

Tori Miclette, Director of Human Resources, reported to the board that the state was reducing fees and requirements for those wanting to join the district. The Humboldt County Office of Education (HCOE) is offering online reservations for those who need to take the paraprofessional exam.

The district is in need of teachers, substitute teachers, campus supervisors, custodians, and more. For current job postings and information about employment, visit the Southern Humboldt Unified School District website.

Unruly Students at Miranda Junior High-
Miranda Junior High Logo

Miranda Junior High Logo

After a video surfaced of desk-flipping at Miranda Junior High (MJH), several parents reached out to the school to help on-site.

Parent volunteers are reporting that students are disruptive, talking over teachers, using inappropriate language and racial slurs. Cell phone use in class seems to be a major issue.

Parent volunteer Dee Dee Bullock Deane Cardoza said, “To establish a social and behavioral supportive platform for the students, I feel they need to first go over the school handbook and the contracts that all students signed at the beginning of the school year. This helps them understand their role at Miranda Junior High campus and how they have been abusing it.”

Shelby Messenger questioned the board whether they could effectually enforce discipline policies when there aren’t enough personnel, currently, to implement detention.

In a letter to the board, Casandra and Shanon Taliaferro wrote:

Most problems seem to stem from lack of consequences (or rewards), lot’s of down time and cell phone privileges. The enrichment period at the beginning of the day is anything but enriching. The students are allowed to use their phones and just goof off. This sets the rambunctious and chaotic behavior pattern for the REST of the day…These students are CONSTANLTY throwing things, cursing, shouting racial slurs and making racial or sexual gestures, talking over the teachers (like ALL of the students, not just the “bad” ones), getting physical with each other, leaving class, going to other classrooms they don’t belong, destroying bathrooms, vaping, mobbing the door, mobbing Donna’s office and who knows what else!?. It’s CONSTANT. One of the teachers uses a speaker and MIRCOPHONE as to not get talked over…It is systemic and extreme bullying behavior.

MJH Principal, Forrest Cord, voiced appreciation for the parent volunteers and said the school was implementing a new discipline system and encouraged parent input. The school scheduled a meeting to address the issues with parents and volunteers.

Of Note-

-SHUSD Director of Fiscal Services, Vanessa Foquette, has resigned and is taking a job at the HCOE. Steffano-Davis and the board said she’d be greatly missed.

-The district has done a walk-through of the old Miranda Junior High campus with consultant Thompson|Dorfman and a Live Like Geno Foundation representative. They hope to facilitate staff housing and a community center at the defunct site. Steffano-Davis says that Senator Mike McGuire is supportive of the project.

-The board approved discipline policy previously discussed regarding athletes caught with a controlled substance. Student athletes will be banned from participating in sports for 30 days or for the remainder of the season, whichever is longer, after completion of the initial 3-day school suspension.

-The board clarified policy that allows the South Fork High School principal the authority to open or close the campus for breaks and/or lunch, at their discretion based on current circumstances.

-January is School Board Recognition Month. Steffano-Davis expressed her appreciation for the board and said, “I urge all Community members to join me in recognizing the dedication and hard work of local school board members and then working with them to create an education system that meets the needs of our children.”

The SHUSD School Board meets the 2nd Thursday of every month. Visit the district website to view the school board agendas.

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Zipline
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Zipline
2 years ago

Extremely simple solution. Close the school permanently. Let all staff go. Problem solved.

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Radical.

State of the art thinking, there…

Schools shouldn’t be open, period.

You are seeing 500 cases/day and the kids are going to school?

Some parents just don’t get it… Free masks and testing 5 times a week? Where the heck do you think you are, Newport Beach?

At this point, especially at South Fork HS, if the kids won’t behave, send them home to learn to trim and pinch and do “farm work”…

There is literally nowhere in the regular world of California that is affordable, but after the “Big Recession” that is about to happen, school won’t matter anyway…

My advice: Move to Alturas, before it gets expensive.

Zipline
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Zipline
2 years ago

Alturas….aah…if you lived here you’d be home now.

Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
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Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
2 years ago

“…they need to first go over the school handbook and the contracts that all students signed at the beginning of the school year. This helps them understand their role at Miranda Junior High campus and how they have been abusing it.””
At a Junior High!? This type of thinking is why they don’t respect you! I’m not sure of the answer, but I’m also not so sure of the overall concept of a giant consolidated school trying to absorb kids from all over a huge geographic area. It really is more of a prison model. Funny you mention Alturas. Susanville High is kinda the model SF is trying too. One highschool for a huge rural county.
Susanville was busy covering up a popular suicide challenge, right before covid “ruined” the students’ lives.

Don T MattaD
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Don T Matta
2 years ago

Don’t let the door hit you, on your way out!!!

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago

Probably good advice! Very beautiful out there.
(But shhhhh about that).

fishkiller
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fishkiller
2 years ago

You mean “great reset”?

Koastdog
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Koastdog
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Actually more investment is needed. While building teacher housing is extremely important. It would make more sense to rebuild the jr. High school as a jr high school. The separation between age groups is over looked as a part of the behavioral problem and the high school and jr. High need rooms for electives. Bring back art, music, auto shop and life skills. Keep the kids interested.

Zipline
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Zipline
2 years ago
Reply to  Koastdog

Just don’t ask for more property tax increases to pay for it. Home schooling….the way to go. Then you can bitch to yourself when things don’t go as expected….

Permanently on Monitoring
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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Bulldoze the school and clear the site. Use student labor.
Now the kids will know how to work, drive equipment, and lift heavy stuff…
Build a new school, using only rocks and sticks… more valuable real-world skills…

If kids can’t behave themselves at school, they should be made to work for 40-50 years, to learn self-sufficiency…

COVID isn’t going to go away, and you will have to learn that nobody gives you anything!

Life is like getting a “golden ticket”… Don’t waste your time!

suspence
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suspence
2 years ago

One doesn’t “drive equipment”. An operator operates heavy equipment, FYI

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
Reply to  suspence

Lots of “equipment” is driven, like pickups, dump trucks, harvesters… I agree with you if it’s a loader, grader, CAT D6 or bigger…

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago

I like the sentiment here… teaching kids a trade and having them work for a living. But tearing down the school and all is a bit out there.

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Good one. Um, but yeah, the whole property tax thing for school funding needs to change. Do it like in Finland. In fact, property tax alone is bogus. Tax the rich.

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Zipline
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Zipline
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Jim for President!!

Connie DobbsD
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Connie Dobbs
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

… with “rich” being anyone who has a nickel more than you do.

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

I homeschool my kids and find myself bitching to myself from time to time… Homeschooling isn’t perfect but if there is a time to do it, to me, this is the time.

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago
Reply to  Koastdog

For sure. I had Industrial Arts in junior high and wood shop in high school. There was also metal shop and auto shop available. Plus I got in with a backpacking group. I was not a “bad” kid, but I was a bored one. These things save me. I became a carpenter, and a naturalist.

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Simplistic solutions for complex problems rarely work. Conservative minds tend to think this way.

Zipline
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Zipline
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

There are no complex problems. People make them complicated. Simple solutions are always the best.

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

People often lack the sense to even make things complicated, but the often do make complicated messes…

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Permanently on Monitoring
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

At least I suggested a solution.

The trouble with teenagers, is you have to baby-sit them for seven years, during which time they just want to get high, drink beer, and copulate…

Often, even when you think they are home in bed, they have simply jumped out a window, and run off to drink beer, get high and copulate…

I had permissive parents, who probably thought of themselves as “beatniks”, but I still was expected to behave in school, act with morality, and not get anyone pregnant…

I suggest putting your kids in band, forcing them to go to summer school, or making them work for anything “extra” to earn their own money…

Gives them a “real world” view…

Raise your kids to be mercenary, and to have a view to making a good living. Teach them that if they don’t invest in anything, they will never have anything.

Behave yourselves in school, or it might be taken away!

Brainwashed
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Brainwashed
2 years ago

that’s not the SoHum way. Parents are here want to be their kids’ friend and allow them to drink alcohol and smoke marijuana.
As much as I oppose government interference, the county should step in and take over both the middle and the high school; this district is a joke.

This Is My Name
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This Is My Name
2 years ago

Sounds like the parents need to discipline their children.

Sounds like the school needs to suspend or expel some students.

Sounds like all parties share fault.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

This! Some student (we all know who) made a swastika on the homecoming field because he wanted to make a few kids in particular (Jewish, vaccinated, elected by the student body to positions of influence) feel uncomfortable. Now he’s spitting on other kids and we all have to pretend his parents aren’t the ones complaining. It just hurts to be a parent here who is free thinking. Why can’t we make our kids behave.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago

Hey parents. Hey School leaders. Make the flippin schools cell phone free and you’re going to start having the kids use their brains again imagine that. The Dismal effect of social media on our school aged people’s truly independent thinking. It rather causes this group think of let’s be lemmings and jump off the cliff. Do stupid pranks and behaviors, everybody wants to be a YouTube or TicTok Star. A lot of these kids with apps on the phones don’t even know how to spell, type or read any more. Check it out… reading levels are going down massively. Fine motor skills what are those? Just slide your finger on the screen and something will happen. It’s a huge problem pretty much driving every issue below it.

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moviedad
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moviedad
2 years ago

You can’t ban phones now. That Jinn is out of the bottle.
School shootings, natural disaster, terrorism, parents want their kids to have their phones.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago
Reply to  moviedad

They can have their phone just can’t use them during school hours. They’re turned off on the campus. If caught using them whatever the decided repercussions are. Like at your place of employment for example you cannot sit playing on your phone all day. There are certain requirements and standards to be held. School is one of the places we learn those. ❤

Hayforker
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Hayforker
2 years ago
Reply to  moviedad

Parents are the root of the problem.

No Joke
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No Joke
2 years ago

Ok, how are they going to enforce it? Searching every student’s backpack and pockets every time they enter the building? What if parents don’t consent to have their child searched?

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago

Hey! These kids are going to be “influencers” and have popular YouTube channels! Don’t kill their careers!!!

jd
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jd
2 years ago

I like that my daughter could get ahold of me from school , she called to let me know that a boy had taken her stuff during class and thrown it across the room while she picked it up everyone laughed at her and nothing was done to the boy she wanted me to come get her . The school didn’t try to reach me

Time lord
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Time lord
2 years ago
Reply to  jd

Sorry that happened. Diferent times. In my day, we told our parents when we got home. Some schools the principal sent notes home with both kids and or a phone call meeting. We did have to deal with it on our own and not call home immediately.

Charlie
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Charlie
2 years ago

Defund schools now!

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Hayforker
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Hayforker
2 years ago
Reply to  Charlie

Haha yes or offer property tax waiver for homeschool/private school

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago

Hey if these kids are acting up and being total assholes that’s on both the parents and the school system. I remember getting my mouth washed out with soap in elementary school in the mid 80s for swearing.

You’re all soft and kids can sense that. They don’t respect you. This is all on you guys not the kids. Maybe try disciplining them and cut the hippie bullshit.

ABA
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ABA
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Violence is the answer!

Pharmstheproblem
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Pharmstheproblem
2 years ago
Reply to  ABA

No not violence but accountability is! Discipline is. Kids act out they should be kicked out! Parents need to be held responsible for their children!

treehugger
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2 years ago
Reply to  ABA

so you think the only kind of discipline is violence? try taking away their precious cellphones or videogames as punishment.. i guarantee you will get their attention.

suspence
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suspence
2 years ago
Reply to  ABA

If washing a mouth out with soap is violence in your book then, yeah, super soft. America in general is way too soft these days.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  suspence

In my book, it’s poisoning.

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

In the late 80’s, the “teachers cannot touch kids” law went into effect. It’s been downhill since.

Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
Guest
Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

I went to school in Oakland, in the ’80s, where the “teacher touches a kid, you get your ass beat” law was already in effect.

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

Some states still allow corporal punishment. We had the paddle in my elm school in the Bay Area in the ’60s.

NorCalNative
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NorCalNative
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

When I was in grade school in the 60s I had a teacher gag me with a rag, tie my hands to my ankles and stash me behind her desk.

She did this to the future Student Body President of the school, i.e., me.

Consultant
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Consultant
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

That’s a valid point.

Joe
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Joe
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

Yup! South Bay Elementary. 1983. Got my ass paddled by the principal, then had to go stand on the drain pipe for an hour!

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ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

We used to get spanked in the principles office in elementary school in the early 80’s. Only took once or twice and we learned very quickly. Slap them across the knuckles with a ruler. Fear works! Just look at the pandemic as a model.

On another note, it is my personal belief that Gavin newsom is unfit to lead. Does anyone remember that his children were going to school the whole time during the lockdowns? He is a scumbag.

Now the schools are lowering standards in an act of desperation: “ Tori Miclette, Director of Human Resources, reported to the board that the state was reducing fees and requirements for those wanting to join the district. ”. Gee let’s let under qualified, glorified babysitters replace credentialed teachers. That’ll fix it. Not. Let’s lower the bar even more, Maybe get some child molesters to teach the children. What an absolute shitshow!!

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

“Swats” were a thing when I started Junior High in Miranda.

And then, suddenly that practice ended.

Anybody else remember why?

ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

From what I recall, the swats stopped, and then they started teaching us about child abuse. I remember my mom was chasing me around the house with her wooden spoon and I picked up the phone and said “I’m going to call child abuse on you”. Boy that really pissed her off and when my dad got home he swatted the shit out of me. Then he handed me the phone and told me to go ahead and call child abuse. That was the last time I threatened to call child abuse lol
Those were the good ole days

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

Actually, it finally stopped at MJH, after a kid that got paddled’s dad came to the office, and asked the principal to show him the paddle that was used to paddle his son.

And then that kid’s father proceeded to soundly paddle the principal.

And that ended that.

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Locals Only
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Locals Only
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

When was that LOL ? Prior Mr Morris and Mr Young ?

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Anti-corporal punishment laws. Which is mostly a good thing imo because abuse is not far away. But I see your point.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Nope, see above…

Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
Guest
Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

Reducing fees…to become a teacher? To join the district!?

Are you fucking kidding me? So I can be disrespected by everyone at a low paying job? Where do I sign up? But seriously, how does the amount you pay for education make you a better teacher? Higher education for teachers and doctors should be free.

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ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago

You get what you pay for..

Time lord
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Time lord
2 years ago

Yes, and people that go into medical field. Free or cheap tuition and housing…Only way out this mess is through education and health care , mental health, prevention.

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

And also what an idiotic post. Newsome has kept CA from being any worse. Teacher requirements currently do not teach teachers effectively, yet are over-the-top as to what they do require us to have/ be/ do. We all have to have DOJ and FBI background checks. No one is going to change that. Your comment is of the knee-jerk variety.

ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

So you think it’s ok that his children stayed in school while our children were not allowed to attend?

ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Soft on kids, soft on crime? Yeah newsoms strategy sure is working well isn’t it?

The king
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The king
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Wow Jim, thinking people are idiotic because they know newsome is part of the problem. Are you the kind of teacher that pushes your beliefs on kids instead of the facts? I got news fir you, no rich politician with their kids in private school, have a clue about how tough things are in real life. They are very sheltered, filtered, and privileged/spoiled, especially newsome with his aunt pelosi paving his position

Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

You want torture, try 8 years of Dominican Nuns! You just did not mess around with those folks.

beetlejuice
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jim Brickley

I had a nun throw a pointer stick at me for not paying attention..

The king
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The king
2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

She threw a pointer stick at you? Sounds like a very tough childhood, I am glad you turned out ok.

beetlejuice
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2 years ago
Reply to  The king

Well except for having to wear this eye patch I am fine

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

I truly hope that you are just joking.

Jim Brickley
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Jim Brickley
2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Well the Nuns we had carried these 4′ long Rosaries on their side. They could whip that thing around like a Bolo and bring a kid down at 10′. Than there was the ‘ball closet isolation cell’. You piss them off, they’d lock you up in that thing for hours, pitch black! Little wonder you see bumper stickers saying, ‘I survived Catholic School’!

well . . .
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well . . .
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

I was threatened with being paddel with a canoue paddel in 1987. In hindsight it is pretty clear that it was a hollow threat. Sure didn’t illicit the response the principle expected from me.

In 1999 my brother was removed from class by the police, jailed overnight, then sentenced to community service for refusing to participate in the morning PRAYER. This was in Mississippi.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

We can stop the flu, N95s all around, we can do it. We can stop world hunger also , taco bell all around. We can stop climate change, no N95s and no taco bell all around. Crack me up, we in trouble chasing our tails. Panicked people make rotten choices.

Just say no and mean it
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Just say no and mean it
2 years ago

If your kid is mad at you, you’re doing your job correctly.

Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
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Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
2 years ago

I got news for ya. Your kid is the one sneaking around, and lying to you. What job are you doing? Creating an angry sneaky liar of a grown up? Are they gonna be living close by to come over and help you out , or sneaking around on their spouse somewhere across the country? Im lucky to have good communication with my teenager. Thus, I could tell you much of the bad things the children of Important People, and Law and Order types are doing. Funny thing is, after REDACTED dating REDACTED, our family got… investigated…no dirt, just soil.

Melissa Burger
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Melissa Burger
2 years ago

If I had nothing to do and had a teacher’s license, like Shelby, I would start teaching at the South Fork campus to make positive change myself. Shelby’s bitching and suing is only harming and getting in the way of Stephanie Stephano Davis’s amazing progress. Shelby clearly has too much time on her hands and is trying to create a witch hunt. She clearly doen’t care for the health and survival of her own children against covid. [edit] I guess I have to go to the next board meeting because I am super into making sure my kids stay alive and don’t kill anybody else with covid.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

“Shelby….Your stupidity”?

That’s an insult, pretty clearly.

Kym, what do you think?

Does that comment quality as an insult? I kind of think so. But your the judge…

Edit? Or delete?

Time for a little magic?

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

That it’s an insult is obvious.

That it’s “No insult”, is your opinion, and I strongly disagree.

It would be unfortunate if that comment is not edited or deleted.

There are rules. They are being disrespected? Isn’t that the issue?

The whole article is about rules being disrespected an broken.

And then a parent disrespectfully breaks the, no insults”, commenting rule, and I just think the rules should apply.

I see that sort of insult, as where, potentially, part the student bodys” problem, is originating.

Children learn what they live, and they’ve been spending more time at home.

Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
Guest
Can't make anyone happy. All of the time.
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Time to review the conduct code, and contract! Sign it again, Then ball it up shove into your mouth, and scream in a safe space. Then fill out this questionaire identifying areas where we can continue our operational excellence, and really live our personal truths.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Huh?

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Contracts are for 18+.

beetlejuice
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You think those thumb votes are so important, well guess what…

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Good morning,

I hadn’t even noticed the down-votes, and what you maybe haven’t noticed, is that I’m not even trying to win a popularity contest.

I consider the downvotes an indication of having spoken the truth. Plus, as you have so duly noted, 5 of them you could generate yourself, so, why should I even consider that accurate, until I hit at least 6 of them?

beetlejuice
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Perhaps a quiet e-mail to Ms Kemp…

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Perhaps it’s her well deserved day off.

beetlejuice
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Think about what you just said.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

I hadn’t realized it was her day off when I posted that objection to what I consider an insult to another commenter. But I had realized it by the time you suggested the “quiet email”.

Sooo, think about what you just said.

I’m going with, it’s her day off, and that is the only reason that comment has remained. And if you don’t mind, I will still object, respectfully, whether the comment it is deemed appropriate for removal, or not.

Somewhere recently, the discussion turned to, if you never mention it, or ever do, then why didn’t mention it get mentioned before?

So are we supposed to mention it or not?

It seemed to me that the message was, either, “if you ever intend to mention it, then always mention it, or maybe it was, don’t even bother mentioning it”.

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2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

🤔🧐Well guess what, poof!

That insult is gone…

Like I said, RHBB is magic!

And I really like magic!😁

well . . .
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2 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Thank you, Kym.

ShelbyD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

Melissa,

Did you read the actual letter that I sent to the board? I’m not suing the district and many of us parents are asking for a conversation and an evaluation of policies.

I will continue to speak up for what I feel is right. And you can continue to take things out of context since you’re just observing from the sidelines and chiming in here or there to sling insults at me [edit]. Glad to hear I’ve finally pissed you off enough that you’re actually going to “maybe” attend a school board meeting. That will be a big help, Melissa.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

I read your letter and it is clear you are threatening a lawsuit. School policy (set by CDPH) is set with the intention to keep students as safe as possible, in these unprecedented times. God forbid the district were to follow your fallacious suggestions. Your threatened frivolous lawsuit would be preferable to the actual public health risk (and ultimate lawsuits) the district would face that following your suggestions would create. You are trying to stir up trouble here and it is not appreciated.

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2 years ago

In the past, with a different School Board, I have considered a lawsuit myself…

It would have been justified.

The Covid19 approach the school is taking, not only doesn’t seem to be working, it seems to be being haphazardly and inappropriately applied.

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2 years ago

Stir up trouble?

It seems that the troubles have already been well stirred.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

🤔🧐 Hmm…, I’m pretty sure that,

“…anybody else with covid.”,

already has covid.🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

Brian, this comment isn’t against the rules but you could as easily attack me for someone in my martial art having been corrupt. This is a long stretch to attack Shelby.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

She doesn’t do that, Brian. You are accusing her of following a practice that essentially had a corrupt CEO that was booted years ago. That’s some pretty far stretching you are doing there to tar her with the same brush. You made your point. Move on.

The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I provided a link.

She does indeed tout a scandal ridden agency on her resume for attracting kids pyramid scheme yoga.

No, not 1 employee, the fucking founder. The FOUNDATION.

And if you opine the problem was only 1 guy 20 years ago….

…..google “yoga controversy”, “guru abuse” and head down the rabbit hole.

Don’t contribute to that ignorance.

I’m not attacking Shelby for sexual abuse, I’m attacking Shelby for poor judgement.

I have no reason to not do that.

How many commentors attack people in public or organizations for even getting a financial contribution from Jeffrey Epstein?

I never heard you say to them: “Back off”

Even Trump was smart enough to backpedal his relations with Epstein, but hey, what I’m talking about is just angry Brian shit.

Got it. Thanks again.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Brian, attacking another commenter is another story than attacking ex President Clinton. The whole point of that rule is to keep me from having to deal with “your mother wears army boots” sorts of comments being flung constantly. I’d like a discussion of ideas and once again you are attacking someone personally. I gave you some freebie comments because you were connecting it to her judgement. But if you’re not done, I am.

The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

So if Clinton drops in and comments, you would not allow any more Clinton insults? Really?

Because Shelby is part of the story above, and others prior.

It’s totally fair game to use her positions and statements as a way to question her judgement.

I went on a 5 minute search of public statements by Shelby to better understand her as a person.

Here’s another example that breaks what you’re saying to me into ridiculous;

John Sakowicz

You also let hygienic insults against me stand, they’re still fucking there.

And I been moderated for my 3rd year after biting back at 1911.

But you fucking left those insults there.

Didn’t you?

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I would allow more leeway as he is a public figure…as I did a tiny bit with Shelby. Brian, your hands were working hands. Some folks have snobby attitudes towards working people and have never handled a tool. They perceive your hands as dirty.

ShelbyD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

If you tout a money fraudulent and also a lying sex crime adulterer guru as your teacher on your resume for classes for kids, you better believe I’ll be a pain in your ass.

Brian, where did I “tout a money fraudulent…lying sex crime adulterer” as my teacher? Furthermore, where did I put this on a resume for classes? Please, do share! Because your link provides no evidence of this.

I clicked on the link that you shared (had never seen it!) and it was a cut and paste from the FB page I created for parents who expressed interest in these classes. And what it actually says is that I “will incorporate positive psychology concepts” into the yoga practice for kids ages 9-12. I then go on to state what positive psychology is and that I learned these concepts at “Kripalu (a world-renowned yoga center).” I already clarified that the teacher of this course was Tal Ben-Shahar, Ph.D.

For someone so interested in facts, the truth, and preventing the spread of “misinformation,” I would expect a little more from you, Brian.

treehugger
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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

“I would expect a little more from you, Brian.”.. there’s your mistake right there 😉

treehugger
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2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

damn.. [edit] never discussing the subject at hand but instead attacking the poster.. either accusing them of being multiple posters, calling people trolls (look in the mirror) or delving into their personal life, which is really just wow.. over the top weird/neurotic.. try developing your critical thinking skills so you can actually join into the conversation instead of just always attacking others in multiple ways. sorry, kym, this prob breaks your rules.

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2 years ago
Reply to  treehugger

It’s pretty sad that when several posters are creeped out by the behavior of another poster, they can’t say so, without breaking the rules.

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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

I will attest to also being majorly creeped out by that comment, and also being hesitatant to reply.

Unfortunately, I also see the, as yet, unmoderated comments.

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treehugger
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

you CAN say it (you just did)! .. you just have to do it in a certain way. i appreciate kym not deleting my comment (at least not all of it.. i knew i couldnt call someone creepy.. my bad).. i do try to respect her rules.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  treehugger

To clarify, you can be creeped out by Brian’s behavior. You can’t call him “creepy.”

treehugger
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

👍

LETTING GO
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2 years ago
Reply to  treehugger

Attack the messenger

ShelbyD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

LOL. Oh, Brian! I have to agree with Kym–this is a stretch, to say the least. Yes, I took a course in Positive Psychology years ago at Kripalu. It was a 10-month online program led by Tal Ben-Shahar, Ph.D. That is the extent of my study at Kripalu.

And, yes, I did teach yoga to kids for a quick minute here in SoHum in an attempt to bring more offerings/options to the youth of this community.

Kripalu does attract “world-renowned” teachers. As is the case everywhere, some people in leadership positions do deplorable things, and I certainly do not condone, nor do I follow teachers who engage in the type of behavior you mentioned here. You are correct–Desai established Kripalu, however, he was asked to step down from his position in 1994 amid revelations of sexual misconduct and abuse of power. Kripalu took action in response to his misconduct, and that was almost 20 years prior to when I enrolled in this online course.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

👍

The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&source=android-browser&q=child+hospitalizations+up+in+US+with+omicron#ip=1

Do you now see the uptick in child hospitalizations that you argued with me about?

And why would anyone tout a sex fraud and money fraudulent school on a resume.

It’s like saying, “I’m a sucker, but proud!”

Of course, that’s what your yoga training resume reads like.

For all the dogma about mind/body harmony, yoga is a multibillion-dollar business worldwide, and perfecting the Tree pose doesn’t guarantee tranquility.

Indeed, a number of teachers interviewed by the Globe describe yoga as an often hypercompetitive community — studios vying for teachers, teachers vying for students — rife with mistrust and backbiting.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/09/25/business/toxicity-land-enlightenment-this-yoga-dispute-has-community-tied-up-knots/

What a waste of time and money!

Everyone can fucking stretch and breathe in spandex for free.

We don’t need instructors or fees. But you never saw that, surely.

You wanted to SELL it to the kiddies. The pyramid at work.

Now, I’m sure you had good intentions….but, if you want to know the WHY of decisions made by people, wouldn’t you think it be wise to know something about their decisions in the first place?

treehugger
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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

“Everyone can fucking stretch and breathe in spandex for free.

We don’t need instructors or fees. But you never saw that, surely.

You wanted to SELL it to the kiddies. ”

..you are off the hook today, brian.. thanks for the laugh!

treehugger
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2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

brian, if you’re so “real”.. why don’t you tell us your last name so we can delve into your past and then judge by what we find whether or not your opinions are valid/worthy.. ?
actually though, your comments and style of interacting says all we need to know about you.
i thought you made a big deal about leaving this “troll filled” comment section and going over to the NCJ or LOCO.. but you’re still here.. what up?

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2 years ago
Reply to  treehugger

Excellent point.

It’s like lobbing grenades while claiming “sanctuary”.

And it is a double-edged case in point, as to why commenters remain anonymous.

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Country Joe
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2 years ago
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There was a time on social media when I always used my name but with all the sociopaths hanging in the ether waiting to troll, it just wasn’t worth it…The anonymity of social media provides a sanctuary for craven dolts…

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2 years ago
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👍

beetlejuice
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2 years ago
Reply to  treehugger

What I think is creepy and hypocritical is anonymous commentators telling other commentators to post their real names. Shelby chose to do so and will have to deal with that. She seems perfectly capable of defending herself.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

👎

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2 years ago
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👍 to guest

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2 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Burger

Our community’s children feel like there are no consequences and that they should act as they please in the classroom.

Meanwhile the parents are having a fit at the school board meeting because there is a consequence to their own choice not to vaccinate. They don’t like that refusing to vaccinate makes their kid more likely to catch and spread infection and thus their child must be isolated when exposed. The consequences of their choices hurt their own child and they never pause to reflect who is causing the problem, who made the choice.

Quite a bind we’re in with people who can’t accept consequences for their choices, seen both in classrooms and school board meetings in our otherwise lovely area.

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2 years ago
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🤔🧐Those are limited over-simplifications, and they are not coming from “me”…

You seem to have missed a few things, that Shelby has brought up, or well, are choosing to not address them, as well.

Her concerns shouldn’t be minimized, or criticized.

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2 years ago
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Why can’t her concerns be criticized? Freedom of speech for me but not for thee? Or is it because she’ll sue?

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2 years ago
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🤔🧐I didn’t say couldn’t be, I said shouldn’t be.🤷‍♂️😁

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2 years ago

Sounds like a whole lot of entitled parents who wish this was all over, so would like to legally force everyone to play into their wishful fantasy world. THIS IS LIVING WITH COVID!! Like what do y’all think we’re doing here?? This protocols are keeping kids in school!! If your kid is vaccinated, there is NO QUARANTINE NEEDED if they are symptom free. Like how is that complicated?? DO BETTER FOR THEM! At my kids school, which is wayyyyy larger than any of those tiny ass schools down there seem to have gotten their lives together and be handling it without threats of legal consequences to school staff already tired as hell and about to all quit but parents wanna keep on like they’re some unlimited supply of educators. Especially in rural areas. If most kids are able to do the simple task of wearing masks and not abusing their educators, what’s up with y’all kids?? I mean you guys are raising them, not the school. Props to the parents who actually decided to do something besides complain and threaten, who went to volunteer their time to help out.

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2 years ago

Gee no consequences so they act out? just like when they get older! The whole state is already like that.

beetlejuice
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2 years ago

Vaping? cell phones? Why are these even allowed in school? Some of this behavior is TikTok inspired no doubt..

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2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Insults? Disrespect?

Why are these even allowed in school?

Some of this behavior is domestically, even maternally inspired, but, pray tell, where from could it possibly coming from?

🍔?

beetlejuice
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2 years ago
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McDonalds?

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2 years ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

🤔🧐Nope. You must not be familiar with 🍔.😁

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beetlejuice
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2 years ago
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Hamburgers smile? This is getting kind of creepy..

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2 years ago
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The proper punctuation is present.

beetlejuice
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2 years ago
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Hamburger period smile is even creepier

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2 years ago
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It wasn’t before. Now it is.

ShelbyD
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2 years ago

 [We want] our staff and parents [to] know what the protocol is, and why.”

I too would like to understand the WHY behind our protocols, and that was what prompted my letter to the board in the first place.

When questioned about the need for/effectiveness of certain measures the district doesn’t seem to be able to convey the “why” aspect beyond “this is a law we have to follow.” That leads me to wonder if these protocols are about health and safety in our district.

How do we know that these measures are making anyone safer at this point? These measures have not been evaluated in our district, nor have any goals been set in regards to lifting the measures. What’s our goal here with masking and quarantining kids? Is it to get to zero covid? Is it to avoid trouble with the state? Depending on who you ask, you get a different answer. I have not been able to get a clear answer which is why I and others are requesting a discussion with the district.

In particular, we are questioning the quarantining of Covid-recovered students who were potentially “exposed” again, yet their previously positive case had not been verified on a PCR test (it was verified on a rapid test) and therefore the school was considering these kids to NOT have had Covid in the last 90 days, thus quarantining exposed students yet again for no reason other than “following a flow chart.”

There have been nonsensical, arbitrary rules being followed that the administration agrees make no logical sense. Many other states have abandoned contact tracing for quite some time now. Some students have been quarantined four times in five months, and never came down with Covid–that’s FORTY days of quarantine for these healthy teens. Another example–one of the students who was a positive case was going to be able to return to school before one of the close contacts (who was a covid-recovered student) could return.

Many parents are questioning this rigid adherence to policy which in some cases makes little sense or is impossible to implement in a way that supports the overall health and wellbeing of the students and staff at our schools, Covid and otherwise.

As you can clearly see, there are some serious behavior issues at the schools. And it’s not out of the realm of possibility that measures designed to mitigate the spread of Covid could be causing more harm to our schools with little benefit. We don’t know because we aren’t evaluating what we are doing, we aren’t EVEN DISCUSSING what we are doing. Just because you think something is keeping you safe, does not make it so. Covid doesn’t seem to be going away regardless of what measures the district takes, yet these measures are having a very clear impact on the quality of education we can provide. Given this is year three, I think it’s more than reasonable to insist that we start talking about these things.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

My child is one of those kids who have been quarantined multiple times and not once has tested positive. Missed school for no reason. I have talked with several other parents with the same story. Asked my child if it was possible to stay 6 feet away from other students in classrooms so we could avoid anymore quarantining and my child told me that is impossible.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Parent

The positive and/or quarantined and unvaccinated kids have been spitting at other students in the halls and targeting vaccinated students. If this is how many are acting just waiting for their parents, I can see why they can’t be trusted to stay six feet apart.

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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Renae

Who’s giving out vax status to the students? Medical info. is supposed to be confidential.

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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Sounds like those that test positive, regardless of vax status, are being herded into an obvious waiting area, plain for all to see, for the parents to come pick them up, and that is what is not very confidential, and it’s leading to problems, and the school staff is too clueless to properly handle it confidentially.

The students that test positive are being stigmatized, and are apparently reacting to that.

It sounds like the school at some point, is parading these students that test positive through the school, in the presence of other students.

That doesn’t seem very wise.

Are they trying to shame them?

ShelbyD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

the school staff is too clueless to properly handle it confidentially.

I don’t believe that to be the case. It’s such a small school, and the principal respects confidentiality, on her end, 100%.

What happens is that the kids are called in to meet with her and then when they come out they will tell everyone what happened (or they will discuss via text/social media). And students freely share whether they test positive for Covid and many freely share their vax status. One can quickly piece together any happenings at the high school just by talking to a handful of students, regardless of how strict the staff is with confidentiality. This has been my experience, at least.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

Yes, Shelby, I am sure there is a lot of truth in that…

I had thought about that…
If a kid just disappeared from school for a few days, it would say allot in itself.

And also if their parents come to pick them up, that is a pretty sure sign as well.

I hope things smooth out soon, and thanks again for all your efforts.

ShelbyD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Yep, exactly. It just seems unavoidable, for the reasons I mentioned, and with what you point out here. I actually love the SFHS principal and most of my efforts are because I see what a toll this is taking on not only the students but also on her.

She has the potential to do amazing things, but she can’t do those things when she’s spending 90% of her time contact tracing, talking to parents about contact tracing and mask issues, responsible for teaching a science class, along with 5 other periods which a long term sub is more or less covering, mentoring a new principal, and dealing with a million other things. Yet she does it all with a calm and cool head, which I find amazing.

Ultimately, it is the opinion of many that what we are doing is not working. These policies remain unevaluated and this makes absolutely no sense. Just because you THINK something is keeping you safe, does not make it so. Where are the statistics that show that ANYTHING we are doing is working? (I know you know, just sayin’)

And thank you for all your efforts as well! Also, I appreciate you and others coming to my defense in instances where individuals are struggling to argue ideas, so instead take the easy route of attempting to smear and discredit.

Regardless, will keep pushing on…there’s a larger group than we know that are silently questioning W.T.F. is going on, and more are starting to speak out and question what all this is for at this point. It’s time to zoom out and look at the big picture. Other public health crises are mounting and if we don’t start paying attention there could be consequences that last for generations. It’s worth talking about–for the sake of our children at the very least!

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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

I agree, however, spitting is a serious offense, and if done as an adult can have serious repercussions.
This would be a good time to nip it in the bud.

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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

I agree, but standing in the classroom doorway, questioning vax status, or any other medical history, and barring entrance to only the unvaccinated is also a pretty serious offense.

Would that also have serious repercussions, if done as an adult?

That also should be nipped in the bud, IMNSHO.

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ShelbyD
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

I do not disagree that spitting is a serious offense and this needs to be addressed. I had not heard that this was happening (until reading it here today), nor have I seen it. I also was not on that campus this week. I definitely will bring it to the principal’s attention. However, chances are high that if this was happening this week, she’s aware of it and dealing with it as best she can.

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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

The kids all seem to be open about their beliefs on this matter

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2 years ago
Reply to  Renae

Hmm…
No mention of whether or not, “the negative and/or quarantined or unquarantined and/or vaccinated kids”have been “targeting” the positive and/or unvaccinated or unvaccinated kids?

Is that unheard of, or are you just not mentioning that for some reason?

It sounds to me like you are targeting, “the positive and/or quarantined and unvaccinated kids yourself, so it’s obviously happening. Is that AOK with you?

Can the vaccinated and/or negative kids be trusted to stay six feet away from them?

You didn’t mention anything about that…

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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I haven’t heard of vaccinated kids placed on isolation spitting at other kids and laughing about it.

The parents who complained the loudest at this school board meeting were the parents of the spitters. That’s really significant when they’re arguing that their kids can just stay six feet away. Frankly their kids are assaulting others in the halls (that’s what spitting at people is considered when you’re an adult) and the parents apparently can’t stop or control that… but they’ll make the kid keep a certain distance? That’s hard to believe. This isn’t a new problem. The spitters have been doing this for months.

Parents need to come together and demand good behavior of our children regardless. Obviously kids at this school feel free to act out without consequences. Their parents don’t even know. How can we know when there’s no attempt to notify people? But then the main complainers at every meeting are the parents of the problem kids so I think the school is afraid to cause an issue.

ShelbyD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Renae

“Renae,”

I have talked to several parents tonight. Parents of students at SFHS. Parents who talk openly and regularly with their kids and who are well connected with the students at the school.

We are on to your trolling, “Renae.”

Beyond the fact that after talking with our kids we can find no evidence of any of these things you mentioned throughout this comment section, I also saw the comment you just posted, right before you deleted it–that one really gave it away. You know, the one where you said that it was my daughter who was spitting and yelling at people. Yeah, well you made it quite clear you don’t know my daughter AT ALL. LOL. Why did you delete that? Were you worried it would be so easy to disprove and ultimately give you away?

Sheesh. some people.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

I deleted it for alleging an assault by a known minor (your child) without proof.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Renae

Isolation? At school?

Isolation is abuse.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Renae

Funny, my kids are not vaccinated and have told me kids who are vaccinated sometimes stand at the doors of the classrooms and ask the other kids if they’re vaccinated and if they say no the vaccinated kids tell them they shouldn’t be allowed in the classroom. It is absolutely no ones business, especially the other students, to know who is vaccinated or not vaccinated. Kind of sounds like segregation coming to me. I’m sure there will be people bashing me for not getting the Covid vaccine for my kids and my self but it’s a personal decision. I am not an anti vaxxer, my kids have all their other vaccines.
And don’t we know by now that vaccinated people can catch and spread Covid just like anyone else.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Parent

Just as I had suspected.

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2 years ago
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Kids who are vaccinated are a very small minority in our school district. Of course it’s a personal decision but it’s hard to believe that a tiny minority is making life so hard for the unvaccinated majority that it’s justified to assault vaccinated students.

If your kids didn’t make it to class, they were probably part of the crowds vaping in the bathroom. “The less than ten percent who are vaccinated wouldn’t let us in class” doesn’t sound right.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Renae

I didn’t say my kids didn’t make it to class in time. Now you’re just assuming and trying to throw stones. I asked both my kids about unvaccinated kids spitting on vaccinated kids and both said they had never seen or heard of that. So to me unvaccinated kids spitting on vaccinated kids doesn’t sound right.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Parent

Kids trying to deter entrance to classrooms, sounds just as believable as the spitting, if not moreso, to me.

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2 years ago
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Everyone has the right to decide but spitting in the halls is uncalled for. My kids have seen it but not been victims of it. It’s happening. It’s not acceptable. Every kid at South Fork seems to know about it. If your kids haven’t seen it then maybe they’re the perpetrators.

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2 years ago
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Have you spoken to every kid at South Fork or Miranda Jr High? Probably not. I can’t speak for every student at SF or MJH but between my 2 kids and some of their friends they don’t seem to be aware of it. You’re right it is absolutely unacceptable. I can promise you my kids do not spit at other students or anyone else as they know they would be in huge trouble. My youngest however has been a victim of being asked if she is vaccinated and told she shouldn’t be allowed to enter the classroom because she is not. So, are your kids the perpetrators of that? Was it one of your kids who tried to block the door from my child? Was it one of your kids asking other students of their vaccination status? Because that is also unacceptable. Don’t go accusing someone’s kids of doing something horrible unless you want a finger pointed back at you or in this case your kids.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

Shelby,

What is pretty clear to me up until now, but especially from this article, is that as far as the administration, staff, and school board seem to be concerned about, has absolutely nothing to do with the students health, it is all about the health of the administration and staff.

One would think that one could assume that the students health and welfare would be of utmost concern, and would come first, as far as decision making is concerned, but I’m just not seeing where this is even being mentioned by anyone other than you, Shelby, and I find that a shameful indication of the priorities being set by the administration, the staff, and the school board members.

I reread the whole article, word for word, just to make sure I wasn’t mistaken.

But alas, NOT ONE WORD, NOT EVEN ONE, IN THIS ENTIRE ARTICLE, WAS EVEN VAGUELY IN REGARDS TO THE STATUS OF THE STUDENTS ILLNESSES OR HEALTH! NOT ONE!

Plenty of references, though, to the pitiful staff and administrators and their pathetic plights, and how self-important and mutually appreciated THEY ARE, and how THEIR illnesses are such a ginormous factor, and must be prioritised. SELF-APPLIED, SELF-IMPORTANT, KUDOS ALL AROUND!

AND NOTHING BUT DEROGATORY STATEMENTS ABOUT THE STUDENTS…

That is clearly what all the testing, contact tracing, and quarantining is all about…

It’s not about keeping the kids healthy at all, it’s about keeping the pathetic old farts and fogies from facing their own mortality, totally regardless of the students health.

And it makes me sick!

How’s that for not trying to win a priority contest?

Dave Kirby
Guest
Dave Kirby
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

It seems to me that seeing as how the district is understaffed and substitute teachers are difficult if not impossible to find then any attempts to keep teachers and staff healthy is a genuine concern.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Kirby

I did not say it was not a genuine concern.

Do you really think that the health and we’ll being of the staff should really be so highly prioritised over the health and we’ll being of the students to the point that the concern and consideration for the students becomes non-existent?

I dont. I think that is backwards.

I said that what was quite apparent to me was there was a genuine lack of concern at that meeting, and in the article, for the health or the well being of the students, in that it was never even mentioned once by anyone other than Shelby Messenger, bless her soul.

Can you find anywhere that any appropriate consideration, by staff, at all, was directed towards the students, as far as there health and welfare is concerned?

If so, please point it out.

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RealityCheck
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RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

So many illogical fallacies.. I dont even know where to begin…
How does 1 simply over look 2 years of meetings and lengthy discussions regarding how to best protect the health and safety of the students??? And then at the first mention of the concern for the Teachers health and safety you accuse them of being selfish??? Seriously, do you even live around here?

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  RealityCheck

Because it’s been clear all along that it’s been all about the teachers and staff.

They might have disguised their true motives, by pretending it was “all about the kids”, like they do about everything, but that as usual, was just a ruse to protect themselves.

That’s like a hospital and it’s administration and staff acting like their true motivations are all about the patients well being.

Give me a break.

Might be a few of them, but they would be the minority, that’s for sure.

And what makes you think that I live around here, same logic?

RealityCheck
Guest
RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You obviously do not personally know any of these Teachers, theres no way that you could know any of them personally and come to the same conclusion.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  RealityCheck

So you can’t either?

Because there is nothing in there about the well being of the students. Nothing. Not one word.

When did that cease to be a concern, and the concern became only the staff and administrators?

RealityCheck
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RealityCheck
2 years ago
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Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  RealityCheck

Please note. Insults are not allowed. I tolerate them towards myself but not others.

RealityCheck
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RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Ok.. Blackbelt Cherry Picker is more like eh?

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RealityCheck
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RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

That was pretty nitpicky of you.. and a stretch to call it an insult. but I’m not surprised by your pettiness any more. [Edit]

Kym Kemp
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  RealityCheck

I’m fairly tolerant of insults and rudeness towards myself. But it is still breaking the rules and you can still get banned so feel free to see how far my patience with rulebreakers stretches.

RealityCheck
Guest
RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Simply addressing the well being of the Teachers does not equate to less concern for the students, nor does it equate to the only concern being for the staff and administrators. Again.. please research illogical fallacies. Kym you could benefit from studying up on the list of illogical fallacies as well.

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ShelbyD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Kirby

Dave,

I completely agree with you on this point–it is a genuine concern. It is a genuine concern of mine as well. The thing is, many of us feel that we should be talking about whether or not what we are doing is actually keeping staff healthy. Can we do things differently, in a way that might serve everyone better? I have had numerous discussions with many different staff members who are frustrated, for various reasons.

And how do we know that any of these measures actually serve to keep teachers and staff healthy, especially at this point? We have not evaluated a single protocol that has been implemented.

Also, I would think that mental health, stress, and all of that is factored into your thoughts on what constitutes health. The staff hold a variety of beliefs and have a variety of risk factors. There are staff members that are ready to move on because of the current situation. In other words, we stand to lose staff either way. And of course, people don’t want to speak to this because look what happens, this comment section is a perfect illustration! You get demonized, “othered,” and treated as if you don’t care when that clearly is not the case.

Who dat?
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Who dat?
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Staff doesn’t make these decisions. Board and administration do. School staff is solid.

RealityCheck
Guest
RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Finally, after 2 long difficult years for all parties involved, the concern for the health and safety of the Teachers is formally mentioned and discussed and here you are.. complaining about the discussion. Your skewed perspective makes it clear that you dont come to meetings, volunteer or participate in school functions.. which would explain your misguided rant.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  RealityCheck

Blah, blah, blah.

It’s been all about them all along.

You mean formally admit it?

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

Who’s kid was standing at the classroom doorway asking kids if they were vaccinated, and telling them if the weren’t, that they shouldn’t be allowed into the classroom?

SMH
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SMH
2 years ago

This kids that are bringing narcotics to school, vaping, flipping desks… should be expelled. At the point where teachers can’t teach and they are disrupting the whole class. South Fork has had this problem for many years and need to take some responsibility. Start making an example out of these kids.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  SMH

Pills, allegedly.
Alleged narcotics.
That hasn’t been confirmed, yet, has it?

I recall some rumors that one particular teacher, a newbie, around the time I went there, who shall remain unnamed, actually allowed some students, who shall also remain unnamed, to do coke in class, as long as they railed some out for him, too.

That was the beginning of the end for South Fork, as far as I’m concerned.

Guess
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Guess
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Aw that sucks I just got to drink with Kitts

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guess

It wasn’t Kitts.

Jim
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Jim
2 years ago

This crappy behavior of the students is something that has been going on for a long time, but to a lesser degree. As a part-time teacher for the last 30 years I have seen and experienced the erosion of values, civility, and over all behavior. Except in a few select schools where values and good character traits are explicitly taught, consequences are arbitrary and inconsistent from student-to-student, and with individual students. This stems, imo, from a culture of permissiveness perpetuated by parents. As a teacher I’ve had conversations with parents of troubled behavior being my fault, the principal’s fault, the school’s fault. Rarely have I seen or heard about parent’s taking action to actually change the way things are done around the home in order to reign in the “inappropriate” behavior of their child. By “inappropriate” I mean sexual assault, vandalism, swearing at teachers, staff, and other students. Kids bring to the rest of the world what they experience at home. This is all on parents.

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Very well said, thank you. 🔺

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Well said.

RealityCheck
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RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

👍👍👍👍

local observer
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local observer
2 years ago

you don’t threat litigation if you have talked to an attorney. therefore these numb nuts or nut have not talked to an attorney and are blowing luke warm air.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  local observer

More aggressive action could actually just mean writing to their congressmen. It doesn’t necessarily mean litigation.

Guesty
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Guesty
2 years ago

Our school has not allowed parent volunteers since the beginning of the pandemic which I find disturbing.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago

Hey everybody stick your noses in a book and start to learn!!! School is for learning not learning to manipulate the world vis fake ove the top emotions for self serving purposes. All this Cry-Baby whine, whine, me-me-meeeee!!! it’s tearing down Society. Really dismal situation to be in. The shits going to hit the fan really bad and another couple years when these kids are grown ups.

Country Joe
Member
2 years ago

Spot on…Open our schools immediately using proper mask and or vaccine protocols…Closing schools for years is causing mental, physical and emotional health issues with our children. The vast majority of masks being worn currently are ineffective against Covid…

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Then make the kids wear them right… oh wait that would be an affront to parents who don’t believe in masking who are inundating our school board with complaints that their decisions have consequences.

Country Joe
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Spot on…There’s absolutely no reason not to issue N-95 masks to everyone, especially if the result is returning students to school. In my humble opinion, decisions have consequences for vaccines, especially children but not a mask indoors…

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

Extended daily mask wearing is not healthy

ShelbyD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

“N95 masks are approved by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, and are designed to filter up to 95 percent of particles, according to the CDC. KN95s are supposed to meet a comparable Chinese standard, but there is no Chinese regulatory agency ensuring that, said Anne Miller, executive director of Project N95, a nonprofit organization that distributes free N95s and children’s masks in the United States.

The CDC has warned that about 60 percent of imported KN95s in the United States are counterfeit. However, there are U.S. firms that make KN95s that are of high quality, Miller said.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/01/10/cdc-weighs-n95-kn95-masks-guidance-omicron/

According to the CDC (1/14/22):
“Although respirators may be available in smaller sizes, they are typically designed to be used by adults in workplaces, and therefore have not been tested for broad use in children.”

Sky PilotD
Member
2 years ago

Teachers need to be credentialed but school board members only need to have a pulse. What’s wrong with this picture folks ???

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago

How can you expect children to obey their parents when Gavin keeps taking away parents authority and giving it to the State?

California bill would let children 12 and up get COVID-19 vaccine without parent’s approval
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/590809-california-bill-would-let-children-12-and-up-get-covid-19-vaccine

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

You can blame Newsom but meanwhile there are parents complaining to the school board that their students should be free to spit at others (they felt a certain way as the majority at their school, like they’re discriminated against as the majority so it’s okay) and thus we all accept spitting as the new status quo. I’m pretty sure Newsom didn’t make a law that it’s okay for Covid exposed students to spit at others. We need to expel students who act this way – but also keep in mind that their parents said it’s okay. Very strange position for school board members.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Are you talking about kids that simply aren’t wearing a mask?

That is what you’re talking about isn’t it?

That’s what the Newsom reference is all about.

You are equating not wearing a mask, with being exposed and spitting at other kids, is that it?

So you are not talking about literally spitting at other kids, is that it?

Not wearing a mask is spitting at others?

Oh boy🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

Sal T. Nutz
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Sal T. Nutz
2 years ago

Look at how all of you are acting on here? and then wonder why the students are acting out at the schools! Kids are completely out of control and have NO consequences because their parents refuse to admit, recognize, and realize, and take action at the fact that plain and simple, “your kid is a fucking asshole, and YOU created such asshole”. It all starts at home, oh but some of you won’t have the courage or common sense to admit that either. YOU are the one that wanted to have your kids, how is it fair to the rest of society that you created spoiled entitled disrespectful assholes at home and now the rest of society has to deal with them. How can all the adults be with each other walking, working, talking, hanging out around town and be friends and buddies when each other’s kids are being assholes to one another? that alone makes NO sense. When I was a kid, my parents’ friend’s kids were my good friends and we didn’t do half the stuff that’s happening at Miranda JRHS. So once again, it all starts at home!

Worried about you kids mental health but yet “your time” is more important? your girl time and yoga pants and uggs are more important than your kid’s mental health? your growdozer and farms and buddies are more important than your own kid’s mental health? take time away from “your” time to actually be a parent, you wanted to give birth to kids, act like it! it’s not the school’s job to raise your kids because is obvious by reading all of your comments that you don’t approve of the work the schools are doing, and then expect the schools, teachers, principals, teachers aides, hell maybe even the janitor to somehow fix why your kid is acting out? and when that doesn’t happen what do YOU ALL do? get mad and act out like you all have been on this entire post. Aren’t the parents and schools supposed to work together?

You ask to know the “WHY” on a lot of stuff which we all want to know, but if you finally get the “why” answered, and lets say it will be a good enough “why” will you be happy?
Litigation? suing? I’ve lost perfectly healthy no pre-existing conditions at all close family members due to Covid, so are you gonna tell me that their cause of death was faked only to add a number to some statistic? So screw other people’s mourning because of your beliefs? Some of you think Covid is a hoax and a mask is some form of control, well, I rather be safe and alive than dead that’s for damn sure, and no that doesn’t make me a complying sheep. Litigation and law suits? so that means I can file a law suit against anyone that gives me Covid right? Because I’m pretty sure that’s what’s going to start happening next.

All this doesn’t even have a feeling of being because of Covid, all this has more of a political feeling, Covid is the secondary title. Wear a mask? Not wear a mask? vaccine? no vaccine? Trump? Biden? this is what all of this feels like. To which everyone is entitled to have their opinions about. I personally think is pathetic how people act and fight and defend these so called Presidents, some act like either Trump or Biden are knocking on your door to make sure you have food to eat every day, day in and day out. Some act like Trump or Biden are knocking on your door every single day to make sure your kid’s mental health is alright. You think your resident gives a shit about your kid’s school? Hell, Eureka and Fortuna don’t give a shit about your kid’s school, you think your president gives a shit about your litigation or law suits? All this is doing is ruining the little resources we have locally to maybe somehow keep our schools operating. And you wonder why there’s no teachers that want to come teach in this shit show! What’s next? you all complaining that you have to drive to Fortuna and Eureka to take your kids to school there? Oh great, let’s go fuck up another school district with our “entitlement and lack of consequences because nobody can tell us what to do” attitude!
And with the twister of bullshit we are all surrounded with, EVERYEONE is forgetting that we all have to work together if we are going to attempt to try to make all of this work! TOGETHER!

ShelbyD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Sal T. Nutz

Aren’t the parents and schools supposed to work together?

YES! This is what we should be doing…working together. Unfortunately, this is not happening. I, and other parents, have been requesting a conversation with the administration and board for over four months now. We have offered countless creative solutions and ideas of ways we can support. Many of us ARE supporting in ways that the district allows. For instance, MJH parents are just now being let on campus (no parents were allowed on campus until recently) and have organized to fill the gaps. But it took things getting to a crisis level before they considered that it might actually be MORE dangerous to our kids to restrict parent volunteers. All I know is that things cannot keep operating as-is without serious consequences, and we should be talking about these issues and working towards solutions. Stating “we plan to take more aggressive action…” is one way to make a request heard, and does not mean “we plan to sue the school district,” in this particular instance, anyways.

Health of our schools
Guest
Health of our schools
2 years ago

There was another board meeting today. I hope we get a report.

It angers me that Shelby takes precious time out of a school board meeting to attack the schools who are trying their best to provide a safe and educational place for our kids. How about some constructive solutions, Shelby? What if there was a kid who tested positive who was sitting next to your child and your kid wasn’t declared close contact, wasn’t sent home to quarantine and was asymptomatic and gave her 90 year old grandpa Covid which landed him at St Joes fighting for his life? Do you know how many false negatives there are? Do you think the board, principals and superintendents are not caring people who do their very best to keep the schools open and functioning as possible in the midst of a terrible pandemic? With fewer teachers? Some of whom are sick with Covid because you didn’t believe in contact quarantine? Or vaccinations? And exactly how do you know that people have gained immunity? It’s not a given.
Where is the parent responsibility in all this? Where are the parents who could help take kids’ temperatures at the beginning of the day, remind them to wear their masks properly, sit in classes to help maintain order? Instead of blame how about constructive solutions? How about some of you, who post irrelevant nonsense about yoga teachers, ridiculous rumors and even threats of litigation, get off your laptop and head on over to Miranda and find a way to be part of the solution?

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ShelbyD
Member
2 years ago

Health of our Schools,

How about some constructive solutions, Shelby? 

I have offered 20 pages of constructive solutions to the board and administration and have spent hundreds of hours conversing with educator friends across the nation, with SHUSD staff, parents, and other concerned community members in an effort to build on this document and find solutions.

I requested a meeting to discuss how we can implement some of these ideas and/or bring stakeholders together to find other creative solutions to some of the problems we are facing that will be around for the foreseeable future (like staffing, for instance). When I requested the meeting, the board president at the time (Collett Fenske) wanted to see my ideas, that is when I emailed the document I had put together to everyone (along with countless other suggestions along the way, some of which have been implemented).

There still has yet to be a meeting. I’m doing my part and I don’t “complain” without offering suggestions–I know how hard everyone is working.

To address all of your other questions–hopefully, the board and admin will be discussing these protocols sooner rather than later and you can keep an eye out for that meeting, if it happens, and join in. I would gladly answer them all in person and I think they are all worthy of discussion.

Pat Bitton
Guest
Pat Bitton
2 years ago

Call me old-fashioned (and I’m sure someone will) but why do kids need to have cellphones with them in the classroom?

Health of our schools
Guest
Health of our schools
2 years ago
Reply to  Pat Bitton

in case there’s another lock down ..the internet is blocked for the students

RealityCheck
Guest
RealityCheck
2 years ago

They dont need phones for a lockdown.. the parents want them to have cell phones in case of a lockdown.

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RealityCheck
Guest
RealityCheck
2 years ago

Now tell the nice people why access to wifi had to be blocked!?!

Knowledge
Guest
Knowledge
2 years ago

Baker for director of directors. Let a genius handle this.

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Seth
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Seth
2 years ago

“In particular, the contact tracing and unnecessary and ineffective quarantining of HEALTHY students needs to stop, and we are prepared to start taking more aggressive action to put an end to this arbitrary and ineffective process.”

I consider that a declarative threat and confrontational, not a request to “discuss”. Threat of what – yelling? lawsuit? violence?

ShelbyD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Seth

Yes, when taken out of context this quote can absolutely not be seen as a request to discuss when you read it in isolation. Context matters. Did you read the letter? Because in bold, I say this: “As concerned parents, we are requesting a conversation about our district’s policies.”

Also, this: “I would like to see this agendized for discussion”

And this: “Thank you for your continued dedication and service to our community”

I’m wondering, what your thoughts are on the other points I brought up in this letter:

1. The American Academy of Pediatrics, alongside the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and the Children’s Hospital, declared that the pandemic-related decline in child and adolescent mental health has become a national emergency. The AAP also states that, “School policies should be regularly reviewed, especially school transmission data, and adjusted to align with new information about the pandemic; administrators should refine approaches when specific policies are not working.14”
School policies should be guided by supporting the overall health and well-being of all children, adolescents, their families, and their communities and in addition to creating safe working environments for educators and school staff. This focus on overall health and well-being includes addressing the behavioral/mental health needs of students and staff.”
2. From Pew Trusts, a global NGO established in 1948 that seeks to improve public policy and inform the public: “According to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, emergency department visits for suspected suicide attempts among adolescents jumped 31% in 2020, compared with 2019. In February and March of this year, emergency department visits for suspected suicide attempts were 51% higher among girls aged 12–17 than during the same period in 2019.

3. From the New York Times: Data now suggest that many changes to school routines are of questionable value in controlling the virus’s spread. Some researchers are skeptical that school closures reduce Covid cases in most instances. Other interventions, like forcing students to sit apart from their friends at lunch, may also have little benefit.

“Behavior problems have increased. ‘Schools across the country say they’re seeing an uptick in disruptive behaviors,’ Kalyn Belsha of Chalkbeat reported. ‘Some are obvious and visible, like students trashing bathrooms, fighting over social media posts or running out of classrooms. Others are quieter calls for help, like students putting their head down and refusing to talk.’”

4. From Professor Ellen Townsend who specializes in self-harm: The long-term consequences of harms to young people (or indeed people of any age) have not been accounted for in policy making. All other harms are being trumped by Covid-19 which is not how a holistic and compassionate public health system should operate. We must name and account for the harms caused by lockdowns in robust cost-benefit analyses and impact assessments which must be transparent and published.”

Seth
Guest
Seth
2 years ago
Reply to  Shelby

I sure did. It’s a declative statement, and an imperative statement as well. and I consider it a threat. It is in no way qualified as other than that in the text of the letter.

“….we are prepared to start taking more aggressive action to put an end to this arbitrary and ineffective process.”

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Seth

Not really enough to bunch up the old BVD’s that badly, IMNSHO.

Maybe the Board will finally actually listen now…

RealityCheck
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RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Seth

You can consider a roll of toilet paper a threat… doesnt mean that it is…and you are no way qualified as other than just another commenter in the text of this thread.

Yep Humboldt
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Yep Humboldt
2 years ago

The whole staff needs to go on strike, teachers included until parents and students realize what they have and start showing some respect for the situation. Kids are acting like this because there are no consequences, as stated, but that starts at home… I know this is dreaming of a world going back to normal , but these kids are the future… and that doesn’t make it look very bright does it …?

RealityCheck
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RealityCheck
2 years ago
Reply to  Yep Humboldt

👍

Reggie Menniweathers
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Reggie Menniweathers
2 years ago

My mom would of wore me out if I was going to school acting like that

Consultant
Guest
Consultant
2 years ago

God bless the Messengers and god bless freedom!

wtf
Guest
wtf
2 years ago

Sounds like it’s time to call in Cesar Millan, a la South Park. For students and parents alike. Before ALL the teachers quit. How much fun would that be?

So, just what happens when an out of control kid finally gets permanent suspension? Do they even do that anymore? A 50 mile drive to the next school?

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago

168 hours in a week. 6 hour school day minus the breaks and lunch around 30 hours of class room time a week. Besides sleep. What are the kids doing with the rest if their time?? The schools given the limited time kids are there to focus on education. All off this other fun and games is robbing the rest of their “education” Adults afraid to adult.Jerk adults supporting dismal mindsets and blind eyed parenting. The teachers can’t teach because its out if fashion. What a mess.

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago

Absolutely agree with you, especially 🔺 the last few sentences. Seems so off track. Sound’s like no one is having a good school experience.

Prometheus
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Prometheus
2 years ago

Open our schools immediately using proper mask and/or vaccination protocols…Enough is enough and our children are suffering mentally, physically and emotionally…The vast majority of masks currently worn are ineffective against Covid…

I like stars
Guest
I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Prometheus

Schools are open.

RealityCheck
Guest
RealityCheck
2 years ago

While everyone was arguing about who drilled all the holes in the boat, and who is going to fix them…the boat just sank and you all drowned.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

I complained on behalf of my Jewish children when a student made a swastika on the field during homecoming. The response was such that we let it go. I was told basically that the student who did this had more important parents and this could do as he wished. I’m not an important person so my kids apparently should get used to death threats.

Kym Kemp
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

What year did this happen?

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

🤔🧐Don’t ask me.🤷‍♂️ First I have heard of it.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

It was about 8 years ago. I know the leadership is different but the general complaint that the school isn’t offering a safe or educational environment seems to be the same.

Parent
Guest
Parent
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I deleted what I thought guest was talking about as I thought he/she was talking about a more recent incident until I saw their comment below.
Regardless of when it was that sort of behavior should never be tolerated with any kind of leadership

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Parent
Guest
Parent
2 years ago
Reply to  Parent

I didn’t see guests answer below. I don’t know about 8 years ago as my kids were still in elementary school that long ago.

Kym Kemp
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Parent

Thank you.

Pick 🌹Penny🌹
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Pick 🌹Penny🌹
2 years ago

Thank you to all who are working and volunteering at our schools. Although my son is at the high school, I am willing to come in and help with volunteer work at the junior high campus. The disrespect and unruly behavior cannot continue and I’ll gladly come in if you want my help.
Feel free to reach out by contacting the office at the High School or contact me through Facebook messenger.
Sincerely-
Penny Pick

Health of our schools
Guest
Health of our schools
2 years ago

Penny.. please go into the office and offer your help.

RealityCheck
Guest
RealityCheck
2 years ago

I think it’s time the Teachers take a stand and march against the abuse that they are subjected to daily from students and parents alike!

If the behaviors and actions from these students and parents were recorded and uploaded they would go viral.

ShelbyD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  RealityCheck

I think it’s time the Teachers take a stand and march against the abuse that they are subjected to daily 

I completely agree with you. Covid and school closures provided the perfect opportunity for teachers to strike–to demand reform (in my opinion, anyway). And it is never too late–something has got to change, public education is collapsing before our eyes.

Unfortunately, the union wasted this opportunity on other power plays, again demonstrating that they don’t actually support these professionals who work on the front lines every day—our undervalued, underpaid teachers who are subjected to a system that has become abusive to both staff and students alike. It’s a systemic problem, and I stand with our teachers, while also advocating for our students. It’s not an either/or situation, as I see it.

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2 years ago

Lol…”litigation”, I’m in full support of Teachers pursuing legal action against abusive students and their legal guardians.
When it comes to unruly students and their parents in today’s day and age, …Teachers are like a person with no arms in a fist fight . If you cant see that clear as day, you either need your eyes or your head checked.

Shame on you if your pointing your finger in any direction but your own.

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2 years ago

By my estimate, around a 1/3 of the long time problem families will be gone after being forced to leave the area due to their Cannabis farms going the way of the Dodo bird come 2023.

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Guesty poo
2 years ago

The main issue with humboldt county is people getting jobs they are not qualified for. Yes, nepotism, but also just the sheer fact that no one actually qualified exists or applies. Seems it’s only getting worse.

jd
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jd
2 years ago

Honestly the amount of kids being exposed every week is crazy , iv decided to pull my kids out . Even before covid our schools had no money I would love to know how much of that cannabis tax money actually went to our schools my guess $0