2 New Hospitalizations, 194 New Cases

Master mix is prepared for COVID sample processing in the Humboldt County Public Health Lab.

Part of a COVID sample being processed in the Humboldt County Public Health Lab. [Photo from Humboldt County Public Health]

Press release from Humboldt County Public Health:

Humboldt County Public Health reported today two new hospitalizations due to COVID-19, a resident in their 50s and another in their 70s. An additional 194 new cases were also reported, bringing to 14,928 the total number of residents who have tested positive for the virus.

With the highly transmissible COVID-19 Omicron variant circulating widely in the community and record high cases locally, Public Health officials are reminding residents, particularly those who are not vaccinated, to take steps to limit their exposure to and potential spreading of the virus. Residents are encouraged to wear a well-fitted mask in indoor public spaces, distance six feet from others when possible and avoid crowds and poorly ventilated spaces. While vaccinated and unvaccinated are both at high risk to get Omicron, as was not the case with other variants, the risk of hospitalization and death for those who are unvaccinated remains significantly higher.

Health officials urge everyone aged 5 and older to get vaccinated and all eligible individuals aged 12 and older to get a booster. Fully vaccinated or boosted individuals typically develop milder symptoms, experience shorter illness duration and have fewer hospitalizations and less severe outcomes. Local data shows that unvaccinated adults in Humboldt County are 13 times more likely to be hospitalized than those adults who are fully vaccinated.

Since the last data update on Jan. 14, the county has recorded 2,010 new cases of COVID-19. One death of an unvaccinated person in their 20s was reported during that period. Nine new hospitalizations due to COVID-19 were also reported. Four were unvaccinated, four were fully vaccinated and another’s vaccination status is unknown. Age ranges of reported hospitalizations in the seven-day period are as follows:

  • 1 person in their 30s
  • 2 people in their 50s
  • 1 person in their 60s
  • 4 people in their 70s
  • 1 person aged 80 or older

The graphs below, which depict average weekly case rates and estimated weekly hospitalization and death rates in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated local residents, show that more severe outcomes from COVID-19 are higher among unvaccinated individuals.

For the reporting period between May 30, 2021, and Jan. 9, 2022, 16 fully vaccinated Humboldt County resident died from COVID-19. The average age of those deaths was 79. During that same period, 48 unvaccinated residents died from the virus. The average age of those deaths was 67. During that same period, 59 fully vaccinated residents were hospitalized with an average age of 74 and 248 unvaccinated individuals were hospitalized with an average age of 58.

Chart showing weekly averages for hospitalization and death rates (per 100K) since May 30, 2021. Unvaccinated hospitalizations passed five during the first and last week of August, approached three in late September, and have alternated between one and two since then. Vaccinated hospitalizations have remained at less than one since June, with the exception of early August when they rose above one. Unvaccinated deaths rose above one in early September, remaining at or below one since then. Vaccinated deaths have remained below one since May.

The graph above, from data between May 30, 2021, and Jan. 9, 2022, illustrates the county’s current weekly hospitalization rate for fully vaccinated individuals is 0.3 per 100,000 while the rate for unvaccinated individuals is 1.4 per 100,000. Over the past 10 weeks, both the hospitalization and mortality rates for unvaccinated individuals was approximately 11 times greater than those for fully vaccinated. View a more detailed depiction of the hospitalization and death rates graph here.

The current seven-day average case rate in Humboldt County is approximately 139, meaning that for every 100,000 residents, approximately 139 tested positive daily over the last seven days. Case rates vary considerably by vaccination status, as illustrated in the graph below, which depicts average weekly case rates since February 2021 in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated residents.

Chart showing case rates (per 100,000 residents) since February 2021 with the unvaccinated case rate at eight, vaccinated at zero. Unvaccinated case rates drop to 4 in April, climb to 24 in mid-May, while vaccinated case rates never exceeded three. On June 15, when COVID restrictions were lifted, the unvaccinated case rate was 13 and vaccinated case rate was one. Then by mid-July, cases for everyone began to climb. The local case rate for unvaccinated people rose to a high of 79 residents per 100,000, declined to 18, and recently went up to 131, but has gone down again to 94. The case rate for fully vaccinated individuals reached a high of 30 in early August and declined to 6 before increasing to 12 and up to 148 and went down again to 85.Opens in new window

The most recent seven-day average case rate for the period ending Jan. 9, for fully vaccinated individuals is 85 per 100,000 residents, while the case rate for unvaccinated individuals is 94 per 100,000 residents. View a more detailed depiction of the case rate graph here.

To decrease the risk of spreading the COVID-19 virus, the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) is continuing to stress that individuals should complete the entire 5-day period under the guidelines for reduced isolation and quarantine periods.

Under the CDPH Self-Isolation Instructions, individuals who test positive and are symptomatic, regardless of vaccination status, should isolate for at least five full days after the start of COVID-19 symptoms. Day one is the first day after the symptoms start. If a person has no symptoms and tests positive, day one is the first day after the positive test.

A person who tests positive and never has symptoms, or a person who has symptoms that are improving and no fever on day five, can test on day five or later and leave isolation the next day if that test is negative. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s quarantine and isolation guidance recommends that if a person tests positive on day five, that individual should continue to isolate for the entire 10-day period.

Anyone who ends an isolation or quarantine period after day five should continue to wear a well-fitted mask around others for an additional five days.

To increase testing capacity in response to the recent surge in cases, the federal government is providing four at-home COVID tests for each household. These can be ordered online, free of charge, at COVIDTests.gov.

Additionally, as of Jan. 15, federal law requires health insurers to cover up-front costs of at-home COVID-19 tests purchased at pharmacies or retailers, or allows individuals to be reimbursed for up to eight home tests per month. Information is available at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services website.

As always, Humboldt County’s vaccination and testing services are available free of charge. Although walk-ins are allowed at most regular Public Health clinics and many pharmacy vaccination sites, an increase in demand for boosters has caused delays at some locations. As a result, appointments are required for pediatric clinics and for clinics at Public Health’s main office. Appointments are strongly recommended for all other clinics and are the best way to ensure a shot is available during your visit. Appointments can be made at MyTurn.ca.gov.

Vaccines, including boosters, are available at local pharmacies. To check the availability of a specific vaccine, visit the vaccines.gov page, or text your ZIP code to 438829 to locate a nearby pharmacy offering vaccines.

See the schedule below for specific Public Health vaccination and testing clinic dates, times, locations and available services. Questions about clinic services can be directed to the Joint Information Center at 1-707-441-5000.

Fortuna — Saturday, Jan. 22, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Fortuna Veterans Hall (1426 Main St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.

Fortuna — Sunday, Jan. 23, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Walker Elementary School (2089 Newburg Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.

Eureka — Monday, Jan. 24, 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No testing available
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments required.

Eureka — Tuesday, Jan. 25, 9 to 11:30 a.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Ages 12 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No testing available
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments required.

Eureka Pediatric Clinic — Tuesday, Jan. 25, 1:15 to 3:45 p.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Ages 5 to 11
Pfizer only
No testing available
Appointments required.

Willow Creek — Tuesday, Jan. 25, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Office (77 Walnut Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.

Eureka — Wednesday, Jan. 26, 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.
Marshall Resource Center (2100 J St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.

Trinidad — Thursday, Jan. 27, 2 to 7 p.m.
Trinidad Town Hall (409 Trinity St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.

Eureka — Friday, Jan. 28, 1 to 8 p.m.
Wharfinger Building (1 Marina Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No rapid testing available at this clinic. PCR testing offered through OptumServe by appointment on the lower floor of the Wharfinger Building.
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.

View the Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download data from a previous time. For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 1-707-441-5000.

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.go
Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard
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beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago

The Art of war
He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

Sun Tzu

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beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Booster shots in U.S. have strongly protected against severe disease from omicron variant, CDC studies show

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/01/21/cdc-studies-booster-shots-omicron/

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Then why did Israel conclude vaccine boosters didn’t help the fight against omicron? We’ve been lied to so much Fauci and the cabal have lost all credibility.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago

Just curious, do you not know how to cut and paste a link? If you don’t I can guide you thru the steps.
The Israeli study says booster won’t protect against Omicron, that’s all the study says. CDC study says it helps prevent severe disease.

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
Mega me
Mega me
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Cut and paste a link? Are boomers really still using internet browsers like this? Are you still on AOL?

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Mega me

Instead of criticizing how about offering to help. Give out some advise. Though we argue we are still a community. If you have something good to offer I will listen.

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

That’s funny, Israel was talking about the fourth shot. Was the CDC talking about the third, or the fourth shot?

And Israel would have been talking only about Pfizer, not Moderna, right?

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Actually, I just saw that in some cases, the 4th dose given was Moderna. What isn’t that clear, is if the first three doses in those cases were also Moderna.

Pharmstheproblem
Pharmstheproblem
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

How do you know you wouldn’t have been part of the 80% or better that only get mild reaction anyways from covid without vaccine?

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago

No one knows on an individual basis. Only statistics from a large number shows the advantages. But if there’s a room with a hundred people standing around and one of them keels over dead, another 10 fall down sick and a scattering of others are coughing, it would be a sign to not just stand there doing nothing.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

I ain’t your f****** secretary

Last edited 3 months ago by mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago

OK so you don’t know how.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Whenever I attempt to include a link my comment gets stuck waiting approval then disappears

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago

You might try asking Ms Kemp about that. I believe she said she was working on your waiting for approval problem. Something about IP address?

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

🕯🌳I have the same problem. 🖖🖖

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Sometime I do too. I just wait and it reappears. I wonder if there is some sort of automated check for unacceptable links but that’s just paranoid thinking. Anyway they always reappear.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Mine too.
WordPress tracking?

Last edited 3 months ago by HotCoffeeandMe
Hayforker
Hayforker
3 months ago

Haha!

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago

Here is the link to the study Mir is talking about. It really adds credibility Mir if you provide a link.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/international/590109-israeli-study-shows-fourth-vaccine-dose-not-enough-to-stop-omicron%3famp

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
Hayforker
Hayforker
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Or encourages laziness…

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  Hayforker

In those who don’t bother to support their points…

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago

They didn’t. They limited recommending a 4th booster to people most at risk as there was no proof that it increased benefits in others.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

80-90% are asymptomatic?

more than 50% of the world will have been infected with omicron between the end of November, 2021 and the end of March, 2022.

 Although IHME models suggest that global daily SARS-CoV-2 infections have increased by more than 30 times from the end of November, 2021 to Jan 17, 2022, reported COVID-19 cases in this period have only increased by six times.

 Because the proportion of cases that are asymptomatic or mild has increased compared with previous SARS-CoV-2 variants,

 the global infection-detection rate has declined globally from 20% to 5%.

Understanding the burden of omicron depends crucially on the proportion of asymptomatic infections. A systematic review based on previous SARS-CoV-2 variants suggested that 40% of infections were asymptomatic.

 Evidence suggests that the proportion of asymptomatic infections is much higher for omicron, perhaps as high as 80–90%.

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The Real Brian
The Real Brian
3 months ago

You just plagorized (or copy+ pasted writing without attributing) from the Lancet:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00100-3/fulltext?s=08

Now, if you cant wait the soooo long amount of minutes for a comment to appear with links, then AT LEAST say that WHAT YOU JUST TOOK was from _______.

Give credit where it is due.

That is an American standard, not internet culture.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Sucks for it to have been less than six months since your second dose, so the booster isn’t even an option, to be fully vaccinated, and be told that even with the booster, it ain’t gonna cut it to keep you from even getting Covid.

Cornpop
Cornpop
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

No help against delta, the Wall Street journal said…

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  Cornpop

No it didn’t.

Antiwoke
Antiwoke
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

I’ve been staying at my liberal, vaxxed inlaws house since Christmas. Every person(6 people, ages 16-45) in this house tested positive for COVID-19(lab test, not quick test) & miserably sick in bed for over a week.. including my wife(got the vaxx because of family pressure) who sleeps right next to me. I’m the only one who tested negative & the only one NOT vaxxed. What’s up with that? Also her other family members from another household.. all vaxxed, tested positive too. Did I already have covid at some point but didn’t realize it? If so, it was too mild to notice… But all these vaxxers are sicker than shit. Interesting.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Antiwoke

Have you generally avoided illnesses going around throughout your life? You may just have a naturally strong immune system.

Antiwoke
Antiwoke
3 months ago

I rarely get sick… but I also notice the people who are constantly worried about being sick are the ones who are always sick. I also hear that the vaxx compromises natural immunity by making it feel like it doesn’t have to do it’s job anymore. Is this true? So if that vaxx is no good against omicron & natural immunity is on vacation, it seems the doors are open for infection. Just sayin what I hear & seems to be what I’ve been witnessing. I’m open to hearing the truth.

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  Antiwoke

🕯🌳I don’t think what your hearing is right,personal opinion. 🖖🖖

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Your right Willie
Fact Check-COVID-19 vaccines do not weaken people’s immune systems ‘like chemotherapy

COVID-19 vaccines do not weaken your immune system’s ability to respond to other infections so getting your jab will not make you more susceptible to colds or flu,” said Dr Doug Brown, chief executive of the British Society for Immunology

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

It’s called delayed susceptibility.

The vaccines just delayed it..

That didn’t happen with the unvaccinated, they have been building natural immunity, with a high number of infections, so far, so now, comparatively speaking, the vaccinated will be more susceptible, than the unvaccinated group, and the unvaccinated, having already faced a high level of infection, will be comparatively less susceptible.
It’s catch-up time. for the vaccinated. They are starting from square one against you infection.

The unvaccinated have been hardened already against covid19, but the vaccinated are still soft, softened by the protection of the vaccines that has vanished against Omicron.

It’s really not so hard to understand.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Antiwoke

Vaccines are ineffective against omicron and simultaneously turn off our immune system, ergo negative efficacy? Sounds like a stretch but congratulations on your personal success weathering the exposure in your living situation.

Mendoreader
Mendoreader
3 months ago

https://kymkemp.com/2022/01/21/2-new-hospitalizations-194-new-cases/#comment-1477877
I just read this article today, I posted the link here but it’s fairly well buried in this comment section.
In my home, we’ve had similar circumstances as Antiwoke, shortly after Xmas holidays, everyone got COVID, except for me. Fevers, fatigue, muscle cramping, etc.

Also, during thanksgiving holiday, everyone got sick for days, not COVID, except for me. They’re all vaxxed, I’m not. 3 of them are in their 20’s, so it’s not that they’re in a very vulnerable age group, nor do they have health issues. I did have COVID back in Feb/Mar of 2020, and it was a beast. I know this is just anecdotal, so not worth much, but it’s what I’ve observed and experienced.

Antiwoke
Antiwoke
3 months ago
Reply to  Mendoreader

Thank you for sharing this. Exactly like the situation I’m in. They’re still sick… I just woke up hearing they’re coughing… Super gnarly sounding. They’re still bed ridden. I can tell they’re a little bit disappointed that I didn’t get sick.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Maybe Omicron can variant doesn’t even cause severe disease.

Is that why the vaccine appears to be working?

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

The very concerning data from Scotland
Every Wednesday, Public Health Scotland (PHS) has been publishing a weekly report on COVID data juxtaposed to vaccination rates. Table 14 of this week’s “Public Health Scotland COVID-19 & Winter Statistical Report” lays bare in plain English (and math) a rate of negative efficacy for the vaccine:

https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11223/22-01-19-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf

This also coincides with the latest data from the U.K. Health Security Agency of the entire United Kingdom. This data now shows higher rates of infection among the triple-vaccinated in all but the youngest people.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1049160/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-3-2022.pdf

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Nobody is doubting that Omicron is bypassing the vaccine. What is being shown is that the vaccine helps prevent serious disease and hospitalization.
And those links are like 65 pages each.

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Omicron is the excuse for the booster, if the booster can’t stop omicron from bypassing it, why aren’t the vaccines already taken enough, and how can a booster that’s bypassed help?

Definition

2. to avoid something by going around it:

Last edited 3 months ago by HotCoffeeandMe
Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

For the last week, the additional risk of hospitalization associated with being unvaccinated is only 1.7 times.
The county mentions 13, with no time frame, specifies adults, yet suggests that everyone 5 and above get vaccinated, and 12 and older to get a booster, and THEN mentions the 13 times the risk statement, WITH NO TIME FRAME MENTIONED, AS IF IT WAS CURRENT INFORMATION, and specifies for ADULTS, only, as if that much additional risk also applies to the children as well, when it DOESN’T.

WTF?

Could you please explain how the County is coming up with 13 times the risk?

And what time frame does that even apply to? And why for adults only?

Remember, for the last week, it’s only 1.7 more likely to be hospitalized, if you were unvaccinated.

On 1/7/2022, the County represented the risk as 17 times more likely.

Misrepresented it, I should say.

The additional risk stated should be what it is currently, not cherry picked, or just vaguely stated, with no time frame indicated, for a subset of the eligible population.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

This link references the pertinent study as being from August to this month?

How long has Omicron even been around?

This link references…

Protection dropped from 94% during the Delta wave to 82% protection against hospitalization during Omicron.

So, how is 82%, about 90%?

Whatever.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Not what it says at all re-read it….

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Reading it two or three lines at a time behind a wall? That’s a PITA.

Go directly to the CDC study.

Or you will miss the important stuff.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

I provided a link to the CDC study. You just didn’t see it
And now your just making excuses, about why you misread what was being said.

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

🕯🌳He wants to argue. 🖖🖖

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

More like, “The booster for Moderna and Pfizer provide(d) about 90% protection against an unspecified, unverified, Covid19 variant, likely Delta or Omicron, during a combined, Delta- and Omicron- predominant period, during a CDC study, with 7 study limitations, in only 10 of 50 states, August whatever, to January 5”.

Not very conclusive evidence…

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, You really shouldn’t conclude that about Omicron. It isn’t true. The study itself only concludes that towards Covid19, alone. Claiming that for Delta, but not for Omicron would be about 54.74 times more appropriate, as a matter of fact… The variant associated was not specifically confirmed in any of the cases. Just exactly how many of the 87,904 hospitalizations that occurred during the study period, (August 26, 2021 to January 5, 2022), do you think even occurred during, “The Omicron predominant period? Care to take a guess? Would it change your mind, or your assertion, if I was to inform you that only 1.79% of the hospitalizations occurred during the Omicron predominant period? That s right, only 1,577 out of 87,904. And in none of those cases was the variant identified or confirmed by test. You have jumped to that conclusion, or you are playing leap frog with all those that jumped to that conclusion before you, and are following right along. Omicron predominant period, undifferentiated, Covid19 hospitalizations of 1.794% seems like too small of a sample size to be forming a reasonable conclusion on any booster efficacy attributed specifically towards Omicron infection related hospitalizations. Wouldn’t you agree? That’s… Read more »

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I guess I should have served this up first, as an appetizer, but I found it last… Bon appetit’…

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beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Why are all these respected news sites publishing the study if it’s inconclusive? MMWR also published the study
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/01/new-data-show-booster-doses-protect-against-omicron

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Guest
you left out the 222,772
The CDC
In a multistate analysis of 222,772 ED and UC encounters and 87,904 hospitalizations among adults with COVID-19–like illness during August 26, 2021–January 5, 2022, estimates of VE against laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 declined during the Omicron-predominant period compared with VE during the Delta-predominant period. During both periods, VE was significantly lower among patients who received their second mRNA COVID-19 vaccine dose ≥180 days before the medical encounters compared with those vaccinated more recently. VE increased following a third dose and was highly effective during both the Delta- and Omicron-predominant periods at preventing COVID-19–associated ED and UC encounters (94% and 82%, respectively) and preventing COVID-19–associated hospitalizations (94% and 90%, respectively).

Last edited 3 months ago by beetlejuice
Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

And again you left out the Omicron relevance.

Only 18,027, of those 222,772 were associated with the Omicron predominant period.

That means that 204,745 were associated with the Delta predominant period.

Any conclusions you draw from that study, would be from 11.34 to 54.75 times more appropriately applied, not to Omicron, but to Delta, respectively to hospitalizations, and, ED and UC encounters.

You keep swinging, but you keep striking out.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

What is being shown for the last week, is that the increased unvaccinated risk of hospitalization in Humboldt county is only 1.7 times, less than double, adjusted per capita, what it is for the “unvaccinated”.

I guess that shows the vaccine helps prevent serious illness and hospitalizations, but nowhere even close to how much the County, etc., purports it to be doing for the last week or two…

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

🕯🌳Then you need to ask the county. 🖖🖖

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

I’ve tried that numerous times.

Dino isn’t all that helpful.

I’ll keep asking the reporter, and maybe the reporter can get some clarification from the County.

She clearly has more clout, than I do, and is who is actually distributing their misleading information.

I’m just asking for clarification, and pointing out that yesterday, the report was in serious conflict, with itself…

The information is so convoluted, consistently error filled, cherry picked, and misrepresented, that I really don’t trust any of their information anymore.

It’s not to be trusted.

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

🕯🌳Ok.🖖🖖

treehugger
treehugger
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

“The information is so convoluted, consistently error filled, cherry picked, and misrepresented, that I really don’t trust any of their information anymore.”

agree 100%

until they stop throwing the partially vaxxed into the unvaxxed category, the numbers and statistics are extremely flawed, making them meaningless garbage.
..
how many “unvaccinated” cases, hospitalizations and deaths have actually been partially vaccinated? can anyone answer this question? kym?

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  treehugger

I figure that they represent 6 or 7 percentage of the population, right now. The “unvaccinated” represent 37% of the population.

So, 30ish%, literally unvaccinated, and 7ish%, partially vaccinated.

Let’s call it 20%, so up to maybe 20% of “unvaccinated” hospitalizations and deaths are partially vaccinated?

If the vaccines are only working half as well for them, maybe 10%?

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

No it doesn’t. That interpretation is the latest “gotcha” misinformation from antivaxxer about a temorary selection bias where the vaccinated get tested because requirements but the unvaccinated don’t in a new wave. As time goes on and the spread becomes more wide spread, the bias disappears. The web is chock full of anti vaxxer’s gleefully reporting this but they are totally silent when the stats reverse.

“Alexandre Naime, head of the Infectious Diseases Department of the Sao Paolo State University in Brazil, dismissed claims that vaccines could increase chances of infection.
“There is no vaccine that induces a greater risk (of infection). This is untrue, it is a biological fallacy. Vaccines may not be effective… but it does not mean that they increased the risk,” he told AFP.”

https://fullfact.org/online/ukhsa-vaccines-not-negatively-effective/

https://news.yahoo.com/misleading-posts-claim-study-shows-200803692.html

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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Nooo,
If the vaxes prevented a significant degree of protection against infection, but only, FOR A LIMITED TIME, and suddenly, that protection vanished, for whatever reason, for them, (and that is precisely what has happened), then those people would suddenly become MORE SUSCEPTIBLE THAN THOSE UNVACCINATED, WHO HAVE BECOME INFECTED AT A HIGHER RATE, & CONSEQUENTLY, HAVE BEEN BUILDING NATURAL IMMUNITY,

The vaxxed could then be infected at such an increased rate, that vaccine efficacy might appear negative.

You see, all those vaxxed people just kicked the, “infection can”, down the road, while the UNVAXXED people have been getting infected at a higher rate, “paying the Piper”, so to speak.

And now that the vaxes don’t stop infections anymore, it’s time for all those newly susceptible, vaxxed folks, who have been previously unplundered by Covid19, to pay up.

In other words, for the previously uninfected vaxxed folks, it’s catch-up time, and it’s their turn to pay the Piper, too. So, for them, now, the risk is increased.

Not directly from the vaxes, but indirectly, you see.

The virus will, consequently, rip through the vaxxed, much faster now, than the unvaxxed.

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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

What do you know?

Maybe I’m not so full of shit after all…

It’s funny, nooo thinks that I got that “negative efficacy”, idea from someone else, or from somewhere else.

But that’s not true…

I came up with that all on my,
“little lonesome”.

Maybe they are getting it from me…

And I’ve also noticed, that hospitalizations are now headed in that direction as well…

I suppose I am getting that from somewhere else, too?

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Some people just aren’t curious, they pick a leader that KNOWS and that’s it.
Since they Know, thinking of the unknown is out of the question.
The conclusions Einstein made are still debated.
💡
Keep on keeping on, you’re doing just fine and holding some interesting conversations.

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beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

You are comparing Guest to Einstein? Now I really do think your his wife. Going to have to get my wife on here, have her compare me to Stephen Hawking…As she laughs in the background.

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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

beetlejuice,

🤔🧐I think that we both could agree that the way that I think, and my ideas aren’t really close to the same as Einstein, but if you were to actually see me in person, I think that you might find the resemblance a little uncanny.😁

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Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

🕯🌳I don’t pick nobody until I see who all is running. 🖖🖖

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Or our backwoods health department just isn’t good with statistics, no bad intentions implied.

thatguyinarcata
thatguyinarcata
3 months ago

That’s certainly a possibility. Doesn’t engender a lot of confidence in the rest of their operations though if that’s the case

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

But being fully vaccinated?
Not so much.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

We lost a true patriot today, RIP Meat Loaf

Angela Robinson
Angela Robinson
3 months ago

Well, he mostly likely died wearing something on his face, it just wasn’t a mask.

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

Don’t let your …
RIP

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Biden made the cover of Time magazine, looks like storm clouds brewing

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Cornpop
Cornpop
3 months ago

Notice how the stack of books on his desk say nothing about rising interest rates, the stock market tanking or higher COVID infection rates and deaths than the previous administration?

And nothing about the crisis on the border or crime?

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Cornpop

👍

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

Sigh…
Newsom joins Harris (yes, that Harris) today to highlight State-Fed investment to build wildfire resilience. Wut a couple of losers, eh? I mean $600 million in new Fed funding to support California wildfire recovery efforts. An additional $1.2 billion as part of total $2.7 billion multi-year package to bolster wildfire preparedness, including near mi casa yer casa. Crazy inconsiderate Dems, sheesh!

Al L Ivesmatr
Al L Ivesmatr
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

IF u need to advertise the spending by progressives on fire related issues, you guys are fubared in 2022.

Connie DobbsD
Connie Dobbs
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

Inconveneince enough rich white people and California leaps into action.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

Brandon’s raking the forest near you?

Connie DobbsD
Connie Dobbs
3 months ago

He doesn’t know to come in out of the rain? Sounds legit.

treehugger
treehugger
3 months ago

maybe it’s his extreme mental fog made visible

..where is my mind
.. way out in the water..
see it swimming..

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

🕯🌳Wesley Snipes. 🖖🖖

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago

Less than 1% of positive cases end up hospitalized. Cases peaked and declining back east. Time to call this over and get on with normal life

Antiwoke
Antiwoke
3 months ago

The fact that someone down voted this comment is disturbing to me. We’re dealing with some dipshits out here. Though I’m not too keen on the vaxx, I do agree with you on some very important issues like…. Fuk Joe Biden & his looney woke puppets!!! What a mess.

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago

🕯🌳5-30-21 to 1-9-22 16 vaccinated died average age 79 during that same period 48 unvaccinated people died average age 67 also during that time period 59 vaccination people were hospitalized average age 74 during the same period 248 unvaccinated people were hospitalized average age 58. Looks like the unvaccinated are leading the race. 🖖🖖

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

1 death out of 2010 cases is 0.05% morality. Not much risk from covid anymore with those numbers.

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

Heh, Trumplicans, so low, that “morality” rate.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

Yes, I believe Trump’s morality rate was about 0.0000000

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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

🤔🧐
You’re exaggerating, again..😁

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

And experts see covid as endemic by March with only the at risk needing special precautions.

The impacts of future SARS-CoV-2 transmission on health, however, will be less because of broad previous exposure to the virus, regularly adapted vaccines to new antigens or variants, the advent of antivirals, and the knowledge that the vulnerable can protect themselves during future waves when needed by using high-quality masks and physical distancing. COVID-19 will become another recurrent disease that health systems and societies will have to manage. For example, the death toll from omicron seems to be similar in most countries to the level of a bad influenza season in northern hemisphere countries. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated the worse influenza season during the past decade in 2017–18 caused about 52 000 influenza deaths with a likely peak of more than 1500 deaths per day.

 The era of extraordinary measures by government and societies to control SARS-CoV-2 transmission will be over. After the omicron wave, COVID-19 will return but the pandemic will not.

Guest
3 months ago

Don’t be surprised if Fauci’s got a few more tricks up his sleeve.

Antiwoke
Antiwoke
3 months ago

The Pandemocrats will remain… That’s a true plague.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

Good one, Bro. You got me!

Hayforker
Hayforker
3 months ago

Please don’t use basic math and common sense! I still think it’s more dangerous driving hayfork to fortuna on 36, but I don’t have those stats on hand.

Al L Ivesmatr
Al L Ivesmatr
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Have you seen Death Race 2000, now that is a race. Toxic Avenger is also very good.

Craig
Craig
3 months ago
Reply to  Al L Ivesmatr

I thought Death Race 2000 was dumb then, and still feel the same today.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

248 unvaccinated hospitalizations is only 4.2 times as many as 59 vaccinated hospitalizations, not 11 times as many.

How did they conjure it up to be 11 times as many?

Cherry picking?

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

🕯🌳It wasn’t me. 🖖🖖

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

The unvaccinated might be leading the race, but they might also be the ones who carry it on…

Today’s news showed that if a woman’s paternal grandfather smoked before age 13, that it increased her chances of being fat.

Now, what’s it going to do to your granddaughter, if you start getting vaccinated before your 13?

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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

For all you fat-shamers out there, read ’em and weep.

It ain’t all about one’s lifestyle, it goes way back, way beyond an individual’s control. You’re a bunch of Bozos.

Now ask yourselves what starting to get vaccinated before you’re 13 is going to do to your grandchildren and great-grandchildren?

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

I guess I better include this…

Hot off the press…

Tap away…

But stop fat shaming.

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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Nice.

Liberty Biberty
Liberty Biberty
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

BUM DEAL China brings back anal swab testing for Covid in world’s most brutal lockdown two weeks before Winter Olympics begin

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago

Ouch!

The anal tests involve inserting a sterile cotton swab up to two inches (5cm) into the rectum and rotating it several times. The swab is then removed before being analysed in a lab

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Being obese is your grandfather’s fault? For smoking?

Guest
3 months ago

Not my study.
I’m just the messenger.

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

The ol one sentence might-might (maybe-possi-bly … yes low-probabili-ty) arguemen-ty 😂

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

🕯🌳I seen that to and I’m way past 13 and I don’t have to worry about my daughter. 🖖🖖

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

I am to, but the point is that the kids need to be extra careful about what gets put in their bodies, because it might not show it’s adverse effects for two or three generations.

A short term study is really not very adequate.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

That’s one of those things that I really tried to avoid. Never did do that stuff intentionally. I hope my grandkids turn out ok anyway…

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

I didn’t read it that way at all.
I figured you were joking, just like the eye-patch thing, hopefully.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

No eye patch.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

🤔🧐👍.

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

So does getting sick as a child effect the expression of the genes they pass on to their children. Not just the mother but the father too. The field is relatively new in terms of inherited epigentics. Like most other things, it’s likely that being infected with a virus is more likely to produce those effects than a relative short period that a vaccination does.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Well, as a child under 13 I got sick as a dog when I tried smoking cigarettes, and never smoked again for forty years after that…

So maybe getting sick did have an effect on the expression of the genes I passed on to my children…

And maybe it helped.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

And no, nooo, that’s not what the study showed. The part that you may want to focus on is how it says the humans didn’t think it would happen to them, even though the tests showed what was happening to the animals…

If ya know what I mean…

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Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Nooo I do not know what you mean. That was one study on smoking with possible “effects on the second (F2) and third (F3)generations after the initial prepubertal exposure might be the result of DNA methylation or other epigenetic markers being generated in consequence of the obesity of F1 and being inherited non-genetically by F2 and F3. However, before hypotheses are generated as to the mechanisms by which the effects we have shown may have occurred, it is important to seek confirmatory evidence from other studies.” Which is why I mentioned epigenetics. There is already evidence that herpesvirus can cause epigentic changes. So why not sars-cov-2? It is a virus that has already shown epigenetic possibilities too.

It is not simple as an observational study on smoking. There are studies in mice that showed suspected epigenetic changes did not occur in the offspring if they were created in vitro. That lead to suspicion it was an effect of parental care rather than inherited epigenetics. Complex, indefinite and way too early to be spreading rumors about vaccination based on no evidence at all just because you find it entertaining.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Nooo,

Of course you overlooked the part I suggested that maybe you focus on, that even though the humans saw the effects that chemicals had on the animals offspring, they didn’t think it could happen to humans.

Sound familiar?

And for goodness sake, please stop with the neverending retort M.O. of, “COVID’s more of it”…

You neverendlessly represent, without a shred of evidence, that the vaccine will not ever present a serious problem in the long term.

Are you also of the volition that it could never happen in humans?

Either way, you may never see it.

That much is clear.

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Proving something is never going to happen is impossible and a silly demand. Alleging some flight of fancy is possible only because something previously unknown might have happened (not yet proven but only a question created by a corellation that’s quite a stretch in itself) when there is zero evidence to support it is a useless . And complaining that someone points out to both those things is a diversion.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

In other words, never think ahead when evaluating your choices, because Nooo thinks that’s fantasy. Link please, Nooo.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Here is a website that deals with Epigenitics, very interesting. And the two studies seem to confirm each other. Even what your grandparents ate can effect future generations.
https://fundacjabirn.pl/en/2019/02/19/epigenetics-something-that-we-do-not-have-in-our-genes-and-we-can-still-pass-on-to-our-children/?gclid=CjwKCAiA0KmPBhBqEiwAJqKK49qAcU19aIYZt65uR3Y3t_m7tk5R7zji94SCxuK-A9uB8jrdLKdMNBoCc3cQAvD_BwE

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Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Epigenetic is going to be the next bit of science to be misunderstood, misused and abused. Speculation is fine and useful in the pursuit of answers. But it needs to wait until there are actual answers to start using it as authority for convenient agendas. And there are almost no answers at this point. Not even a theoretical idea if there are any such mechanics for it to even happen. Not that will stop people from sadly trying. Shades of “recovered memories”, pedophile day care centers and convictions based on no evidence.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

There would be nothing to answer, if the inventor, investor, and the questioner hadn’t speculated.
It’s a never ending process.

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no tests no masks no shots
no tests no masks no shots
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

Origin of the phrase ‘The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the sons.’ ,
4 examples found in scripture:

Exodus Chapter 20 : 1-26.
…”visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation of those that hate me, and showing mercy to thousands of those that love Me and keep My commandments…”

Numbers 14 :18
…” visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation.”

Deuteronomy Chapter 5 :9
…”visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation ..”

Jeremiah Chapter 32 :18
….”repay the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their sons after them…”

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

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Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

👁

Cornpop
Cornpop
3 months ago

Wall Street journal says prior COVID-19 infection offered better protection against the Delta variant than vaccinations. See how ya’all got played, vaxxers?

Hayforker
Hayforker
3 months ago
Reply to  Cornpop

This will be over on national level soon, cuz the midterms are coming up and the dems are gonna pivot or get crushed. In cali, with one party state, unfortunately will take longer. But the dems still won’t want you to think the covid restrictions/measures are politically.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  Hayforker

He left out this information from the WSJ article
Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

🕯🌳Ooops.🖖🖖

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  Cornpop

Why oh why do anti vaxxers forget the much increased risk of damage or death from getting that prior infection? Is it because the losers in that challenge are so frequently anti vaxxers?

thatguyinarcata
thatguyinarcata
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

How is it possible that you still haven’t looked at the data and seen that that increased risk of damage or death was only “much increased” in particular subsets of the population? The risk differences stratified by age and adjusted to particular preexisting conditions are stark.

Cornpop
Cornpop
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Because of the laws of probability.

The risk of death or complications from this Chinese bio weapon is so low that I don’t have to worry about it.

Simple. Keep this in mind…

“Made In China”

The king
The king
3 months ago

You know what “of the vaccines I have known in my life tuberculosis, flu, pneumonia, tetanus, rubella, measles, pox, diphtheria, hepatitis and meningitis, none of them have forced me to wear a mask and maintain a social distance even when vaccinated. I have never heard of spreading or having the virus after vaccination. I have never heard of awards, prizes, discounts, incentives to get vaccinated. I have never saw discrimination toward those who did not, if you have been vaccinated no one has tried to make you feel like a bad person. I have never seen a vaccine that threatens the relationship between family, colleagues and friends. I have never seen a vaccine used to threaten livelihoods, work or school. I have never seen a vaccine let a 12 year old override parental consent.
Of all of the vaccines listed, I have never seen a vaccine like this one, which discriminates, divides, and judges society as it is. And as the social fabric tightens…it’s a powerful vaccine!! It does all these things, except IMMUNIZE!!!”” Is what they are saying

Connie DobbsD
Connie Dobbs
3 months ago
Reply to  The king

Also I didn’t get polio, or spread mumps.

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Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  The king

“Pan”, and “Weiner”, (yes those are the real names of the two pieces of work that came up with the bill to allow 12 year olds to get vaccinated without parental consent, and they sound made for each other), need to be soundly defeated, come next election, and if that bonkers bill makes it to the Governor’s desk, and he signs it, as far as I’m concerned, the last time I voted in favor of him, will be the last time.

Let’s remember “Pan”, and “Wiener”, and never vote for them again, or more approximately, let’s turn up the heat…

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HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Guest

👍

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  The king

👍

no tests no masks no shots
no tests no masks no shots
3 months ago

Y’know, if I never hear the word vaccine or booster or see the redundant images of masks, needles or the hyper-scary guy vented on the bed, I’ll be fine!!! Get the shot or don’t. Mask or not. Stay normal body weight eschewing processed crap or go on and just maintain that 100 extra pounds and hit the dairy, alcohol and bread aisles, and KFC 2x daily! Because at some point y’all gonna have to get over your obsession with what OTHERS are doing, or not doing , and deal with your own health. Your own habits. Your own relationship with food, with nature, with your body, with God. It’s time to admit defeat. The shots are a disaster. Flattening the curve failed. The dorky handkerchief mandates failed.. Distancing . Quarantines. All dramatics! The dice rolled how they rolled, but the bulk of the stats clearly show the elderly and paradoxically malnourished fat folks got hammered the hardest. Take heed. And move the fuck on! In my opinion the death toll on real journalism was the highest loss. Questioning this insane, fearful narrative, and the disgusting money-driven mad science is entirely lacking. And those that have dared to question or point… Read more »

Hayforker
Hayforker
3 months ago

Yes! The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago
Reply to  Hayforker

Yup. Death and disability are over hyped topics for sure…

Old TiredD
Old Tired
3 months ago

Yeah, until “God, I should have got the jab.” The ventilator end.
Perhaps Dr. Malone is correct. Perhaps not. I had a heart attack in my 70’s 6 months after my second jab. Is it related? Maybe, or maybe not. After recovering for 4 weeks, I got the booster. Mad? Maybe. Personal choice—yes. I still may be able to spread it around if I get it, but just maybe I’ll live through it. I have stopped pretending that I cannot infect others if I’m positive, but I have taken these risks for myself by getting vaxxed.

thatguyinarcata
thatguyinarcata
3 months ago
Reply to  Old Tired

You sound like a person for whom the choice of risk of infection vs potential risk of vaccination is fairly cut and dried.

I’d hope you could appreciate that many of us aren’t geriatrics with heart issues and and risk posed by infection are several orders of magnitude lower than they are for you. Meaning that the benefit of vaccination is much much lower whole the risks, both known and unknown, are unchanged.

I’m glad that you had access to a fast tracked medicine that you believe is important for your health

Guest
3 months ago

👍

treehugger
treehugger
3 months ago

awesome comment.. agree with everything you said 100%

Nooo
Nooo
3 months ago

If the anti vaxxer misinformation isn’t repeated so constantly, magically you’ll never have to “see the redundant images of masks, needles or the hyper-scary guy vented on the bed” again.

Guest
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Nooo, you got some more splainin’to do…

The county says 13 times the risk of hospitalization if you are unvaccinated…
For adults? Why for adults?

REALLY??? That’s total bullshit!!!

9 hospitalizations in the last week, 4 vaxxed, 4 unvaxxed and 1 undetermined.

Eliminating the undetermined hospitalization, it’s 4 to 4.

Thats 1 to 1.

There are 1.7 times as many vaxxed as there are unvaxxed.

So, for the last week, it’s only 1.7 times as likely to have been hospitalized, if you were unvaccinated…

Not 17 times, like they said it was on 1/7/2022 !, not 11 times, like they said it was on 1/14/2022 !, and not 13 times like they said it was on 1/21/2022 !

For the last week, it’s been on 1/10th of what they said it was just 15 days ago! That’s right, ONE F—–ING TENTH !

Only 1.7 times as likely to be hospitalized for the last week if you were not vaccinated.

Explain why they are still representing the additional unvaccinated risk as 13 times the risk, when it’s only been 1.7 times as likely to be hospitalized in the last week, nooo?

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thatguyinarcata
thatguyinarcata
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Blaming the other again auntie o? What about the vaccinated half of the hospitalized population this week?

no tests no masks no shots
no tests no masks no shots
3 months ago
Reply to  Nooo

Lol your no logic argument really got me. Ok. Let’s just ignore the huge spike in “cases” compared to pre vaccine, and look away from the absolute tsunami of full blown infections and DEATH in the fully vaxxed, and just keep banging the “anti vaxxer misinformation” drum. Bang on!

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago

First Bidenflation steals 7% of our income and savings in 2021 (and forecast to steal another 10% in 2022) and now Biden’s policies are crashing the markets stealing more than 5% of our retirement accounts just this last week! Joe’s answer to fight inflation? Trillions more of new federal stimulus! Did Crazy Uncle Joe flunk economics class in college or is he just stupid? We can’t afford this idiot anymore! His answer, start a war with Russia to distract us from his abject domestic failure.

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Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago

🕯🌳Who said we started it? According to you there buddies with Russia. 🖖🖖

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Your Joe is toast, abandoned even by his leftist media cabal.

On COVID-19, Biden said he’s done remarkably well. This is hard to square with the standard Biden set in the election, when he said Trump was unfit for office after being responsible for 220,000 COVID-19 deaths. By this metric, Biden is now responsible for 400,000 COVID-19 deaths — the opposite of his promise to come in and “shut down” the virus.

In a rare admission, Biden acknowledged that there have been delays in his administration getting testing kits out. He didn’t mention that those delays were directly caused by his own staff. Back in October, testing experts recommended that the Biden administration send COVID-19 tests to American households before the holidays. Biden’s staff rejected the idea. As a result, people in towns across America waited in incredibly long lines for tests over the holidays.

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Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago

🕯🌳Why’d you change the subject?🖖🖖

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

The original subject was Bidenflation ravaging our financial wellbeing but as to Ukraine, why are the Biden administration and neocons beating war drums? That’s what gets a war started.

Cornpop
Cornpop
3 months ago

Because they’re puppets for the military-industrial complex. The ones who make money in good times or bad times, but especially in times of war; wars that America have been in almost perpetually since Vietnam… until President Trump was elected. US involvement in wars were ending. The man walked alone into North Korea for peace.

Pretty easy to see why the Oligarchs, War Mongers, Socialists and others that hate a free United States of America wanted President Trump to NOT serve another term.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Cornpop

BREAKING: State Department orders families of U.S. embassy personnel in Ukraine to begin evacuating the country as soon as Monday: U.S. officials

Update: Germany: According to a media report, the Federal Foreign Office is working on an evacuation plan for the relatives of the German embassy employees in the Ukraine.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Monday? What the Russians don’t do invasions on weekends? “take the weekend off men” If invasion is eminent I recommend they get out of there today..

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HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Depends on your time zone I guess.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  beetlejuice

Biden has it covered “Vlad, the United States absolutely demands you put off your minor invasion of Ukraine until Tuesday so we have time to pack”

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago

🕯🌳We’re not beating the war drums Russia is. 🖖🖖

Cornpop
Cornpop
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Let the Russians beat their war drums and kick Ukraines ass if they want to. Doesn’t mean we have to respond. I don’t give a fuck if Hunter’s oil company gets fucked up.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago

“Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin’
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it’s your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly”
Masters of War -Bob Dylan-

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

“why are the Biden administration and neocons beating war drums”

Better understand who’s beating on what. Putin and Xi love that Trump increasingly divided the US (don’t try and BS around that fact) thus increased weakness.

Ukraine and Taiwan. The US has run around for many decades, feeding into the wonders that is Democracy, thus pissing off the mono-Party capitalists (the perfect blend, eh?). We peaked, years ago, and not even the Trumpster-fire can stave it off (civil war anyone?)

Buy gold.

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

🕯🌳Invest in water. 🖖🖖

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

Gold doesn’t taste good and it’s hard to chew.
Might want to check out the china system of social scores, been planning it since Nixon / Kissinger.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

Obama first earned the handle Divider- in-Chief. Trump campaigned on the division Obama created then Biden drives the wedge deeper. Let’s not forget Hillary’s “deplorables” comment. Only 36% say they’d vote for Biden again

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago

🕯🌳I’d like to see the field of players before I vote for anyone. 🖖🖖

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

Ahem, a lot of people didn’t want a Black man, and with such the name, as Prez! Outgrowth of the Bush Wars. You know this. And other stuff, that goes back, speaks volumes. Like starting with The Wise Use Movement pushback on environmentalism, Americans for Taxpayer Reform BS to narrow Gov spending on helpful things (uh, but GOP Administrations outspend Dems 😂), the Tea Party years (eye roll, all the flag waving, pre-cursor to MAGA Nationalist Populism) and so on and so forth toward ….Militancy, and with tens of millions of useful idiots who think the election was stolen, conned by a man who sought to … steal the election! 😂

Do you think Trump won 2020?

When he goes down for bonafide crimes, real, easily documented, who is your choice, Squirrel, to replace him? A Trump Jr of some kind? Or a GOP centrist (a type you folks have already eviscerated, so wouldn’t that be interesting, watching MAGA crawl back from trashing the actual majority in their own Party).

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago

“Your Joe is toast, abandoned even by his leftist media cabal”

Excellent segment from last night’s premiere of Bill Maher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bQ2rctogOs&ab_channel=RealTimewithBillMaher

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Tim
Tim
3 months ago

Ah yes, the old “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” school of political blaming.

The right shouts, “ INFLATION IS KILLING US AND BIDEN DOES NOTHING!”

The Fed reduces the economic stimulus and makes plans to raise interest rates to calm inflation. The stock market responds accordingly.

The right shouts, “THE MARKET IS CRASHING AND IT IS ALL BIDEN’S FAULT!”

*sigh*

Now who is it that didn’t pay attention in economics class?

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Fed wouldn’t need to intervene so aggressively of not for Biden’s ill conceived American Rescue Plan overheating the economy

Tim
Tim
3 months ago

In other words, if the Democratic American Rescue Plan hadn’t been so successful, the stock market wouldn’t have gone up so high which then caused the Fed to raise rates, which then caused the stock market to come back down.

If the stimulus hadn’t passed then the stock market would’ve stagnated, unemployment would still be high and you would’ve complained about your 401k not increasing enough.

Like I wrote earlier, it doesn’t matter what the Biden administration does, you would’ve hated it and blamed whatever you perceived was wrong with the economy on them.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Click read more please. Lunch box Joe? Who’s running the government? Biden’s closest advisors have ties to big business and Wall Street with some making millionsPublished Sat, Mar 20 20212:26 PM EDTUpdated Sun, Mar 21 2021 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/20/bidens-closest-advisors-have-ties-to-big-business-with-some-making-millions.html July 31, 2020, 1:24 PM Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden’s team of informal foreign-policy and national security advisors has expanded to over 2,000 people, including 20 working groups spanning issues from diversity in national security to arms control, defense, intelligence, and homeland security, according to campaign officials and an internal list of the co-chairs of those groups obtained by Foreign Policy. The Europe team has over 100 people on its roster, according to several people familiar with the matter. It is co-led by three former national security officials in the Obama administration: Julie Smith, who until recently co-edited Foreign Policy’s “Shadow Government” column; Michael Carpenter; and Spencer Boyer. The ideas and advice are then sent up to a small inner circle of Biden loyalists, including Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Avril Haines, Brian McKeon, and Julie Smith, who are likely to serve as the national security brain trust for a Biden administration. What happens with that advice is a mystery to many of… Read more »

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Tim
Tim
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

So your entire argument is that instead of an administration that brings together groups of experts to provide advice, we should instead have one like the previous administration that listened to no one (except perhaps Fox media personalities) and couldn’t be bothered with finding out even the basic facts on the issues before making decisions.

We have very different ideas of what makes up a good presidency. I’m not a big fan of the current President, but he’s still miles better than the previous one.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Tim

“What happens with that advice is a mystery to many”

“but he’s still miles better than the previous one”

But the country and the people aren’t better off.

HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Tim

What exactly makes him better?

seabreeze
seabreeze
3 months ago
Reply to  Tim

IMO Trump was doing a good job until Covid happened, it’s been terrible ever since, in all ways.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Biden’s just so incompetent – he’s screwed up everything he’s touched, just as Obama warned.

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

You’re kinda saying Obama rocks. 😂

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

Compared to Biden?

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
3 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Even Obama’s economic guru blames the American Rescue Plan for our uncontrolled inflation that’s likely to force a recession so please take an economics refresher course

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Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

Ah, now you have two votes for Obama. Nice! Summers, he’s OK. But, the virus wreaked havoc on the economy and systems (supply chain, etc). Of wait , now you’ll pivot from the actual virus to the vax and gov response (evil fauci 😂, etc) as the problem. Some folks just always spin on their heals, never looking inward. Tuckers.

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago

🕯🌳Epigenetics/ relating to or arising from nongenetic influences on the gene expression.”epigenetic carcinogen”

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HotCoffee
HotCoffee
3 months ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

LIVE: Yellow Vests march through Paris to protest against ‘vaccination pass’ and other govt policies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZLFXqdhLQ&ab_channel=Ruptly

Stor demonstration mot coronarestriktioner i Stockholm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4co4wsVFQ-8&ab_channel=Riks

Willie BrayD
Willie Bray
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

🕯🌳Its a freedom of choice and shouldn’t be mandated. 🖖🖖

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Babies, starting wars over a vaccine to treat a pandemic. Sad,

As the virus wanes, millions of lives saved by vax, tens of millions more having skirted significant suffering and medical treatment, where will the magaright turn? Oh, Joe Bye-Don inflation, Ukraine, and back to …. Hunter again. 😂 (Really, Hunter?)

And when that stuff ebbs, what then? Gonna rush the doors of Rikers Island, to free the Donny, y’know, like the good ‘ol days?

thatguyinarcata
thatguyinarcata
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

How are your counting lives saved? Just picking large numbers out of thin air?

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

Basic search of reputable sources. Really, give it a go. For one, try “lives saved by covid vaccination”.

thatguyinarcata
thatguyinarcata
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

So what you’re saying is you read someone else picking a big impressive sounding number and just decided to believe it. Got it

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

So what your saying is reputable sources, who source data from other reputable sources, don’t fit with your conspiracy mindset. Got it. Enjoy your Rogan.

thatguyinarcata
thatguyinarcata
3 months ago
Reply to  Rimme

From unsupported claims to uninformed personal insults. I wonder why fewer and fewer people are convinced of your world view? Check some reputable sources and see if you can figure it out

Rimme
Rimme
3 months ago

“So what you’re saying is you read someone else picking a big impressive sounding number and just decided to believe it.“
Check yourself.

beetlejuice
beetlejuice
3 months ago

heh-soos, it’s 62 degrees here along the coast and La Niña has abandoned us.
Light a candle and say 3 Hail Mary’s and 1 Our Father to appease Her.
Old Farmers Almanac has a Jan-Feb weather prediction, for Pacific Northwest
https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/region/us/15

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