2 New Hospitalizations, 194 New Cases
Part of a COVID sample being processed in the Humboldt County Public Health Lab. [Photo from Humboldt County Public Health]
Humboldt County Public Health reported today two new hospitalizations due to COVID-19, a resident in their 50s and another in their 70s. An additional 194 new cases were also reported, bringing to 14,928 the total number of residents who have tested positive for the virus.
With the highly transmissible COVID-19 Omicron variant circulating widely in the community and record high cases locally, Public Health officials are reminding residents, particularly those who are not vaccinated, to take steps to limit their exposure to and potential spreading of the virus. Residents are encouraged to wear a well-fitted mask in indoor public spaces, distance six feet from others when possible and avoid crowds and poorly ventilated spaces. While vaccinated and unvaccinated are both at high risk to get Omicron, as was not the case with other variants, the risk of hospitalization and death for those who are unvaccinated remains significantly higher.
Health officials urge everyone aged 5 and older to get vaccinated and all eligible individuals aged 12 and older to get a booster. Fully vaccinated or boosted individuals typically develop milder symptoms, experience shorter illness duration and have fewer hospitalizations and less severe outcomes. Local data shows that unvaccinated adults in Humboldt County are 13 times more likely to be hospitalized than those adults who are fully vaccinated.
Since the last data update on Jan. 14, the county has recorded 2,010 new cases of COVID-19. One death of an unvaccinated person in their 20s was reported during that period. Nine new hospitalizations due to COVID-19 were also reported. Four were unvaccinated, four were fully vaccinated and another’s vaccination status is unknown. Age ranges of reported hospitalizations in the seven-day period are as follows:
- 1 person in their 30s
- 2 people in their 50s
- 1 person in their 60s
- 4 people in their 70s
- 1 person aged 80 or older
The graphs below, which depict average weekly case rates and estimated weekly hospitalization and death rates in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated local residents, show that more severe outcomes from COVID-19 are higher among unvaccinated individuals.
For the reporting period between May 30, 2021, and Jan. 9, 2022, 16 fully vaccinated Humboldt County resident died from COVID-19. The average age of those deaths was 79. During that same period, 48 unvaccinated residents died from the virus. The average age of those deaths was 67. During that same period, 59 fully vaccinated residents were hospitalized with an average age of 74 and 248 unvaccinated individuals were hospitalized with an average age of 58.
The graph above, from data between May 30, 2021, and Jan. 9, 2022, illustrates the county’s current weekly hospitalization rate for fully vaccinated individuals is 0.3 per 100,000 while the rate for unvaccinated individuals is 1.4 per 100,000. Over the past 10 weeks, both the hospitalization and mortality rates for unvaccinated individuals was approximately 11 times greater than those for fully vaccinated. View a more detailed depiction of the hospitalization and death rates graph here.
The current seven-day average case rate in Humboldt County is approximately 139, meaning that for every 100,000 residents, approximately 139 tested positive daily over the last seven days. Case rates vary considerably by vaccination status, as illustrated in the graph below, which depicts average weekly case rates since February 2021 in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated residents.
The most recent seven-day average case rate for the period ending Jan. 9, for fully vaccinated individuals is 85 per 100,000 residents, while the case rate for unvaccinated individuals is 94 per 100,000 residents. View a more detailed depiction of the case rate graph here.
To decrease the risk of spreading the COVID-19 virus, the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) is continuing to stress that individuals should complete the entire 5-day period under the guidelines for reduced isolation and quarantine periods.
Under the CDPH Self-Isolation Instructions, individuals who test positive and are symptomatic, regardless of vaccination status, should isolate for at least five full days after the start of COVID-19 symptoms. Day one is the first day after the symptoms start. If a person has no symptoms and tests positive, day one is the first day after the positive test.
A person who tests positive and never has symptoms, or a person who has symptoms that are improving and no fever on day five, can test on day five or later and leave isolation the next day if that test is negative. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s quarantine and isolation guidance recommends that if a person tests positive on day five, that individual should continue to isolate for the entire 10-day period.
Anyone who ends an isolation or quarantine period after day five should continue to wear a well-fitted mask around others for an additional five days.
To increase testing capacity in response to the recent surge in cases, the federal government is providing four at-home COVID tests for each household. These can be ordered online, free of charge, at COVIDTests.gov.
Additionally, as of Jan. 15, federal law requires health insurers to cover up-front costs of at-home COVID-19 tests purchased at pharmacies or retailers, or allows individuals to be reimbursed for up to eight home tests per month. Information is available at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services website.
As always, Humboldt County’s vaccination and testing services are available free of charge. Although walk-ins are allowed at most regular Public Health clinics and many pharmacy vaccination sites, an increase in demand for boosters has caused delays at some locations. As a result, appointments are required for pediatric clinics and for clinics at Public Health’s main office. Appointments are strongly recommended for all other clinics and are the best way to ensure a shot is available during your visit. Appointments can be made at MyTurn.ca.gov.
Vaccines, including boosters, are available at local pharmacies. To check the availability of a specific vaccine, visit the vaccines.gov page, or text your ZIP code to 438829 to locate a nearby pharmacy offering vaccines.
See the schedule below for specific Public Health vaccination and testing clinic dates, times, locations and available services. Questions about clinic services can be directed to the Joint Information Center at 1-707-441-5000.
Fortuna — Saturday, Jan. 22, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Fortuna Veterans Hall (1426 Main St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.Fortuna — Sunday, Jan. 23, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Walker Elementary School (2089 Newburg Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.Eureka — Monday, Jan. 24, 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No testing available
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments required.Eureka — Tuesday, Jan. 25, 9 to 11:30 a.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Ages 12 and older
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No testing available
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments required.Eureka Pediatric Clinic — Tuesday, Jan. 25, 1:15 to 3:45 p.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Ages 5 to 11
Pfizer only
No testing available
Appointments required.Willow Creek — Tuesday, Jan. 25, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Office (77 Walnut Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.Eureka — Wednesday, Jan. 26, 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.
Marshall Resource Center (2100 J St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.Trinidad — Thursday, Jan. 27, 2 to 7 p.m.
Trinidad Town Hall (409 Trinity St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available on a first-come first-served basis
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.Eureka — Friday, Jan. 28, 1 to 8 p.m.
Wharfinger Building (1 Marina Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No rapid testing available at this clinic. PCR testing offered through OptumServe by appointment on the lower floor of the Wharfinger Building.
Appointments for vaccinations strongly recommended.View the Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download data from a previous time. For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 1-707-441-5000.
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The Art of war
He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.
Sun Tzu
Booster shots in U.S. have strongly protected against severe disease from omicron variant, CDC studies show
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/01/21/cdc-studies-booster-shots-omicron/
Then why did Israel conclude vaccine boosters didn’t help the fight against omicron? We’ve been lied to so much Fauci and the cabal have lost all credibility.
Just curious, do you not know how to cut and paste a link? If you don’t I can guide you thru the steps.
The Israeli study says booster won’t protect against Omicron, that’s all the study says. CDC study says it helps prevent severe disease.
Cut and paste a link? Are boomers really still using internet browsers like this? Are you still on AOL?
Instead of criticizing how about offering to help. Give out some advise. Though we argue we are still a community. If you have something good to offer I will listen.
That’s funny, Israel was talking about the fourth shot. Was the CDC talking about the third, or the fourth shot?
And Israel would have been talking only about Pfizer, not Moderna, right?
Actually, I just saw that in some cases, the 4th dose given was Moderna. What isn’t that clear, is if the first three doses in those cases were also Moderna.
How do you know you wouldn’t have been part of the 80% or better that only get mild reaction anyways from covid without vaccine?
No one knows on an individual basis. Only statistics from a large number shows the advantages. But if there’s a room with a hundred people standing around and one of them keels over dead, another 10 fall down sick and a scattering of others are coughing, it would be a sign to not just stand there doing nothing.
I ain’t your f****** secretary
OK so you don’t know how.
Whenever I attempt to include a link my comment gets stuck waiting approval then disappears
You might try asking Ms Kemp about that. I believe she said she was working on your waiting for approval problem. Something about IP address?
🕯🌳I have the same problem. 🖖🖖
Sometime I do too. I just wait and it reappears. I wonder if there is some sort of automated check for unacceptable links but that’s just paranoid thinking. Anyway they always reappear.
Mine too.
WordPress tracking?
Haha!
Here is the link to the study Mir is talking about. It really adds credibility Mir if you provide a link.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/international/590109-israeli-study-shows-fourth-vaccine-dose-not-enough-to-stop-omicron%3famp
Or encourages laziness…
In those who don’t bother to support their points…
They didn’t. They limited recommending a 4th booster to people most at risk as there was no proof that it increased benefits in others.
80-90% are asymptomatic?
more than 50% of the world will have been infected with omicron between the end of November, 2021 and the end of March, 2022.
Although IHME models suggest that global daily SARS-CoV-2 infections have increased by more than 30 times from the end of November, 2021 to Jan 17, 2022, reported COVID-19 cases in this period have only increased by six times.
Because the proportion of cases that are asymptomatic or mild has increased compared with previous SARS-CoV-2 variants,
the global infection-detection rate has declined globally from 20% to 5%.
Understanding the burden of omicron depends crucially on the proportion of asymptomatic infections. A systematic review based on previous SARS-CoV-2 variants suggested that 40% of infections were asymptomatic.
Evidence suggests that the proportion of asymptomatic infections is much higher for omicron, perhaps as high as 80–90%.
You just plagorized (or copy+ pasted writing without attributing) from the Lancet:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00100-3/fulltext?s=08
Now, if you cant wait the soooo long amount of minutes for a comment to appear with links, then AT LEAST say that WHAT YOU JUST TOOK was from _______.
Give credit where it is due.
That is an American standard, not internet culture.
Sucks for it to have been less than six months since your second dose, so the booster isn’t even an option, to be fully vaccinated, and be told that even with the booster, it ain’t gonna cut it to keep you from even getting Covid.
No help against delta, the Wall Street journal said…
No it didn’t.
I’ve been staying at my liberal, vaxxed inlaws house since Christmas. Every person(6 people, ages 16-45) in this house tested positive for COVID-19(lab test, not quick test) & miserably sick in bed for over a week.. including my wife(got the vaxx because of family pressure) who sleeps right next to me. I’m the only one who tested negative & the only one NOT vaxxed. What’s up with that? Also her other family members from another household.. all vaxxed, tested positive too. Did I already have covid at some point but didn’t realize it? If so, it was too mild to notice… But all these vaxxers are sicker than shit. Interesting.
Have you generally avoided illnesses going around throughout your life? You may just have a naturally strong immune system.
I rarely get sick… but I also notice the people who are constantly worried about being sick are the ones who are always sick. I also hear that the vaxx compromises natural immunity by making it feel like it doesn’t have to do it’s job anymore. Is this true? So if that vaxx is no good against omicron & natural immunity is on vacation, it seems the doors are open for infection. Just sayin what I hear & seems to be what I’ve been witnessing. I’m open to hearing the truth.
🕯🌳I don’t think what your hearing is right,personal opinion. 🖖🖖
Your right Willie
Fact Check-COVID-19 vaccines do not weaken people’s immune systems ‘like chemotherapy
COVID-19 vaccines do not weaken your immune system’s ability to respond to other infections so getting your jab will not make you more susceptible to colds or flu,” said Dr Doug Brown, chief executive of the British Society for Immunology
It’s called delayed susceptibility.
The vaccines just delayed it..
That didn’t happen with the unvaccinated, they have been building natural immunity, with a high number of infections, so far, so now, comparatively speaking, the vaccinated will be more susceptible, than the unvaccinated group, and the unvaccinated, having already faced a high level of infection, will be comparatively less susceptible.
It’s catch-up time. for the vaccinated. They are starting from square one against you infection.
The unvaccinated have been hardened already against covid19, but the vaccinated are still soft, softened by the protection of the vaccines that has vanished against Omicron.
It’s really not so hard to understand.
Vaccines are ineffective against omicron and simultaneously turn off our immune system, ergo negative efficacy? Sounds like a stretch but congratulations on your personal success weathering the exposure in your living situation.
https://kymkemp.com/2022/01/21/2-new-hospitalizations-194-new-cases/#comment-1477877
I just read this article today, I posted the link here but it’s fairly well buried in this comment section.
In my home, we’ve had similar circumstances as Antiwoke, shortly after Xmas holidays, everyone got COVID, except for me. Fevers, fatigue, muscle cramping, etc.
Also, during thanksgiving holiday, everyone got sick for days, not COVID, except for me. They’re all vaxxed, I’m not. 3 of them are in their 20’s, so it’s not that they’re in a very vulnerable age group, nor do they have health issues. I did have COVID back in Feb/Mar of 2020, and it was a beast. I know this is just anecdotal, so not worth much, but it’s what I’ve observed and experienced.
Thank you for sharing this. Exactly like the situation I’m in. They’re still sick… I just woke up hearing they’re coughing… Super gnarly sounding. They’re still bed ridden. I can tell they’re a little bit disappointed that I didn’t get sick.
Maybe Omicron can variant doesn’t even cause severe disease.
Is that why the vaccine appears to be working?
The very concerning data from Scotland
Every Wednesday, Public Health Scotland (PHS) has been publishing a weekly report on COVID data juxtaposed to vaccination rates. Table 14 of this week’s “Public Health Scotland COVID-19 & Winter Statistical Report” lays bare in plain English (and math) a rate of negative efficacy for the vaccine:
https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11223/22-01-19-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf
This also coincides with the latest data from the U.K. Health Security Agency of the entire United Kingdom. This data now shows higher rates of infection among the triple-vaccinated in all but the youngest people.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1049160/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-3-2022.pdf
Nobody is doubting that Omicron is bypassing the vaccine. What is being shown is that the vaccine helps prevent serious disease and hospitalization.
And those links are like 65 pages each.
Omicron is the excuse for the booster, if the booster can’t stop omicron from bypassing it, why aren’t the vaccines already taken enough, and how can a booster that’s bypassed help?
Definition
2. to avoid something by going around it:
The booster for Moderna and Pfizer provides about 90% protection against Omicron hospitalizations. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/22/boosters-90-effective-against-omicron-hospitalisations-study
For the last week, the additional risk of hospitalization associated with being unvaccinated is only 1.7 times.
The county mentions 13, with no time frame, specifies adults, yet suggests that everyone 5 and above get vaccinated, and 12 and older to get a booster, and THEN mentions the 13 times the risk statement, WITH NO TIME FRAME MENTIONED, AS IF IT WAS CURRENT INFORMATION, and specifies for ADULTS, only, as if that much additional risk also applies to the children as well, when it DOESN’T.
WTF?
Could you please explain how the County is coming up with 13 times the risk?
And what time frame does that even apply to? And why for adults only?
Remember, for the last week, it’s only 1.7 more likely to be hospitalized, if you were unvaccinated.
On 1/7/2022, the County represented the risk as 17 times more likely.
Misrepresented it, I should say.
The additional risk stated should be what it is currently, not cherry picked, or just vaguely stated, with no time frame indicated, for a subset of the eligible population.
This link references the pertinent study as being from August to this month?
How long has Omicron even been around?
This link references…
Protection dropped from 94% during the Delta wave to 82% protection against hospitalization during Omicron.
So, how is 82%, about 90%?
Whatever.
Not what it says at all re-read it….
Reading it two or three lines at a time behind a wall? That’s a PITA.
Go directly to the CDC study.
Or you will miss the important stuff.
I provided a link to the CDC study. You just didn’t see it
And now your just making excuses, about why you misread what was being said.
🕯🌳He wants to argue. 🖖🖖
More like, “The booster for Moderna and Pfizer provide(d) about 90% protection against an unspecified, unverified, Covid19 variant, likely Delta or Omicron, during a combined, Delta- and Omicron- predominant period, during a CDC study, with 7 study limitations, in only 10 of 50 states, August whatever, to January 5”.
Not very conclusive evidence…
Kym,
You really shouldn’t conclude that about Omicron. It isn’t true.
The study itself only concludes that towards Covid19, alone.
Claiming that for Delta, but not for Omicron would be about 54.74 times more appropriate, as a matter of fact…
The variant associated was not specifically confirmed in any of the cases.
Just exactly how many of the 87,904 hospitalizations that occurred during the study period, (August 26, 2021 to January 5, 2022), do you think even occurred during, “The Omicron predominant period?
Care to take a guess?
Would it change your mind, or your assertion, if I was to inform you that only 1.79% of the hospitalizations occurred during the Omicron predominant period?
That s right, only 1,577 out of 87,904.
And in none of those cases was the variant identified or confirmed by test.
You have jumped to that conclusion, or you are playing leap frog with all those that jumped to that conclusion before you, and are following right along.
Omicron predominant period, undifferentiated, Covid19 hospitalizations of 1.794% seems like too small of a sample size to be forming a reasonable conclusion on any booster efficacy attributed specifically towards Omicron infection related hospitalizations.
Wouldn’t you agree?
That’s 1 to 54.74.
In other words, it would be 54.74 times more appropriate for you to have concluded the booster provided whatever protection it did, simply against Delta, or maybe rather, simply, “unspecified Covid19”.
The study was for 132 days, Kym.
The Omicron predominant period hospitalizations of 1.794% would the equivalent of the relevance of basing the conclusions on less than 2 days,10 hours, of the 132 day study.
Talk about a reach.
To represent your conclusion as fact, is really stretching it way beyond reason.
Here’s what the CDC says, “During both Delta- and Omicron-predominant periods, receipt of a third vaccine dose was highly effective at preventing COVID-19–associated emergency department and urgent care encounters (94% and 82%, respectively) and preventing COVID-19–associated hospitalizations (94% and 90%, respectively).” https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e3.htm?s_cid=mm7104e3_x
I guess I should have served this up first, as an appetizer, but I found it last… Bon appetit’…
Why are all these respected news sites publishing the study if it’s inconclusive? MMWR also published the study
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/01/new-data-show-booster-doses-protect-against-omicron
Guest
you left out the 222,772
The CDC
In a multistate analysis of 222,772 ED and UC encounters and 87,904 hospitalizations among adults with COVID-19–like illness during August 26, 2021–January 5, 2022, estimates of VE against laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 declined during the Omicron-predominant period compared with VE during the Delta-predominant period. During both periods, VE was significantly lower among patients who received their second mRNA COVID-19 vaccine dose ≥180 days before the medical encounters compared with those vaccinated more recently. VE increased following a third dose and was highly effective during both the Delta- and Omicron-predominant periods at preventing COVID-19–associated ED and UC encounters (94% and 82%, respectively) and preventing COVID-19–associated hospitalizations (94% and 90%, respectively).
And again you left out the Omicron relevance.
Only 18,027, of those 222,772 were associated with the Omicron predominant period.
That means that 204,745 were associated with the Delta predominant period.
Any conclusions you draw from that study, would be from 11.34 to 54.75 times more appropriately applied, not to Omicron, but to Delta, respectively to hospitalizations, and, ED and UC encounters.
You keep swinging, but you keep striking out.
Guest, have you seen this yet? https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/covid-19-pandemic-frequent-boosters-can-weaken-immunity-says-eu-122011201707_1.html
What is being shown for the last week, is that the increased unvaccinated risk of hospitalization in Humboldt county is only 1.7 times, less than double, adjusted per capita, what it is for the “unvaccinated”.
I guess that shows the vaccine helps prevent serious illness and hospitalizations, but nowhere even close to how much the County, etc., purports it to be doing for the last week or two…
🕯🌳Then you need to ask the county. 🖖🖖
I’ve tried that numerous times.
Dino isn’t all that helpful.
I’ll keep asking the reporter, and maybe the reporter can get some clarification from the County.
She clearly has more clout, than I do, and is who is actually distributing their misleading information.
I’m just asking for clarification, and pointing out that yesterday, the report was in serious conflict, with itself…
The information is so convoluted, consistently error filled, cherry picked, and misrepresented, that I really don’t trust any of their information anymore.
It’s not to be trusted.
🕯🌳Ok.🖖🖖
“The information is so convoluted, consistently error filled, cherry picked, and misrepresented, that I really don’t trust any of their information anymore.”
…
agree 100%
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until they stop throwing the partially vaxxed into the unvaxxed category, the numbers and statistics are extremely flawed, making them meaningless garbage.
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how many “unvaccinated” cases, hospitalizations and deaths have actually been partially vaccinated? can anyone answer this question? kym?
I figure that they represent 6 or 7 percentage of the population, right now. The “unvaccinated” represent 37% of the population.
So, 30ish%, literally unvaccinated, and 7ish%, partially vaccinated.
Let’s call it 20%, so up to maybe 20% of “unvaccinated” hospitalizations and deaths are partially vaccinated?
If the vaccines are only working half as well for them, maybe 10%?
No it doesn’t. That interpretation is the latest “gotcha” misinformation from antivaxxer about a temorary selection bias where the vaccinated get tested because requirements but the unvaccinated don’t in a new wave. As time goes on and the spread becomes more wide spread, the bias disappears. The web is chock full of anti vaxxer’s gleefully reporting this but they are totally silent when the stats reverse.
“Alexandre Naime, head of the Infectious Diseases Department of the Sao Paolo State University in Brazil, dismissed claims that vaccines could increase chances of infection.
“There is no vaccine that induces a greater risk (of infection). This is untrue, it is a biological fallacy. Vaccines may not be effective… but it does not mean that they increased the risk,” he told AFP.”
https://fullfact.org/online/ukhsa-vaccines-not-negatively-effective/
https://news.yahoo.com/misleading-posts-claim-study-shows-200803692.html
Nooo,
If the vaxes prevented a significant degree of protection against infection, but only, FOR A LIMITED TIME, and suddenly, that protection vanished, for whatever reason, for them, (and that is precisely what has happened), then those people would suddenly become MORE SUSCEPTIBLE THAN THOSE UNVACCINATED, WHO HAVE BECOME INFECTED AT A HIGHER RATE, & CONSEQUENTLY, HAVE BEEN BUILDING NATURAL IMMUNITY,
The vaxxed could then be infected at such an increased rate, that vaccine efficacy might appear negative.
You see, all those vaxxed people just kicked the, “infection can”, down the road, while the UNVAXXED people have been getting infected at a higher rate, “paying the Piper”, so to speak.
And now that the vaxes don’t stop infections anymore, it’s time for all those newly susceptible, vaxxed folks, who have been previously unplundered by Covid19, to pay up.
In other words, for the previously uninfected vaxxed folks, it’s catch-up time, and it’s their turn to pay the Piper, too. So, for them, now, the risk is increased.
Not directly from the vaxes, but indirectly, you see.
The virus will, consequently, rip through the vaxxed, much faster now, than the unvaxxed.
What do you know?
Maybe I’m not so full of shit after all…
It’s funny, nooo thinks that I got that “negative efficacy”, idea from someone else, or from somewhere else.
But that’s not true…
I came up with that all on my,
“little lonesome”.
Maybe they are getting it from me…
And I’ve also noticed, that hospitalizations are now headed in that direction as well…
I suppose I am getting that from somewhere else, too?
Some people just aren’t curious, they pick a leader that KNOWS and that’s it.
Since they Know, thinking of the unknown is out of the question.
The conclusions Einstein made are still debated.
💡
Keep on keeping on, you’re doing just fine and holding some interesting conversations.
You are comparing Guest to Einstein? Now I really do think your his wife. Going to have to get my wife on here, have her compare me to Stephen Hawking…As she laughs in the background.
beetlejuice,
🤔🧐I think that we both could agree that the way that I think, and my ideas aren’t really close to the same as Einstein, but if you were to actually see me in person, I think that you might find the resemblance a little uncanny.😁
🕯🌳I don’t pick nobody until I see who all is running. 🖖🖖
Or our backwoods health department just isn’t good with statistics, no bad intentions implied.
That’s certainly a possibility. Doesn’t engender a lot of confidence in the rest of their operations though if that’s the case
But being fully vaccinated?
Not so much.
We lost a true patriot today, RIP Meat Loaf
Well, he mostly likely died wearing something on his face, it just wasn’t a mask.
Don’t let your …
RIP
Biden made the cover of Time magazine, looks like storm clouds brewing
Notice how the stack of books on his desk say nothing about rising interest rates, the stock market tanking or higher COVID infection rates and deaths than the previous administration?
And nothing about the crisis on the border or crime?
👍
Sigh…
Newsom joins Harris (yes, that Harris) today to highlight State-Fed investment to build wildfire resilience. Wut a couple of losers, eh? I mean $600 million in new Fed funding to support California wildfire recovery efforts. An additional $1.2 billion as part of total $2.7 billion multi-year package to bolster wildfire preparedness, including near mi casa yer casa. Crazy inconsiderate Dems, sheesh!
IF u need to advertise the spending by progressives on fire related issues, you guys are fubared in 2022.
Inconveneince enough rich white people and California leaps into action.
Brandon’s raking the forest near you?
He doesn’t know to come in out of the rain? Sounds legit.
maybe it’s his extreme mental fog made visible
..where is my mind
.. way out in the water..
see it swimming..
🕯🌳Wesley Snipes. 🖖🖖
Less than 1% of positive cases end up hospitalized. Cases peaked and declining back east. Time to call this over and get on with normal life
The fact that someone down voted this comment is disturbing to me. We’re dealing with some dipshits out here. Though I’m not too keen on the vaxx, I do agree with you on some very important issues like…. Fuk Joe Biden & his looney woke puppets!!! What a mess.
🕯🌳5-30-21 to 1-9-22 16 vaccinated died average age 79 during that same period 48 unvaccinated people died average age 67 also during that time period 59 vaccination people were hospitalized average age 74 during the same period 248 unvaccinated people were hospitalized average age 58. Looks like the unvaccinated are leading the race. 🖖🖖
1 death out of 2010 cases is 0.05% morality. Not much risk from covid anymore with those numbers.
Heh, Trumplicans, so low, that “morality” rate.
Yes, I believe Trump’s morality rate was about 0.0000000
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You’re exaggerating, again..😁
And experts see covid as endemic by March with only the at risk needing special precautions.
The impacts of future SARS-CoV-2 transmission on health, however, will be less because of broad previous exposure to the virus, regularly adapted vaccines to new antigens or variants, the advent of antivirals, and the knowledge that the vulnerable can protect themselves during future waves when needed by using high-quality masks and physical distancing. COVID-19 will become another recurrent disease that health systems and societies will have to manage. For example, the death toll from omicron seems to be similar in most countries to the level of a bad influenza season in northern hemisphere countries. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated the worse influenza season during the past decade in 2017–18 caused about 52 000 influenza deaths with a likely peak of more than 1500 deaths per day.
The era of extraordinary measures by government and societies to control SARS-CoV-2 transmission will be over. After the omicron wave, COVID-19 will return but the pandemic will not.
Don’t be surprised if Fauci’s got a few more tricks up his sleeve.
The Pandemocrats will remain… That’s a true plague.
Good one, Bro. You got me!
Please don’t use basic math and common sense! I still think it’s more dangerous driving hayfork to fortuna on 36, but I don’t have those stats on hand.
Have you seen Death Race 2000, now that is a race. Toxic Avenger is also very good.
I thought Death Race 2000 was dumb then, and still feel the same today.
248 unvaccinated hospitalizations is only 4.2 times as many as 59 vaccinated hospitalizations, not 11 times as many.
How did they conjure it up to be 11 times as many?
Cherry picking?
🕯🌳It wasn’t me. 🖖🖖
The unvaccinated might be leading the race, but they might also be the ones who carry it on…
Today’s news showed that if a woman’s paternal grandfather smoked before age 13, that it increased her chances of being fat.
Now, what’s it going to do to your granddaughter, if you start getting vaccinated before your 13?
For all you fat-shamers out there, read ’em and weep.
It ain’t all about one’s lifestyle, it goes way back, way beyond an individual’s control. You’re a bunch of Bozos.
Now ask yourselves what starting to get vaccinated before you’re 13 is going to do to your grandchildren and great-grandchildren?
I guess I better include this…
Hot off the press…
Tap away…
But stop fat shaming.
Here is the link to the study
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/590784-groundbreaking-study-links-grandparents-smoking%3famp
Nice.
BUM DEAL China brings back anal swab testing for Covid in world’s most brutal lockdown two weeks before Winter Olympics begin
Ouch!
The anal tests involve inserting a sterile cotton swab up to two inches (5cm) into the rectum and rotating it several times. The swab is then removed before being analysed in a lab
Being obese is your grandfather’s fault? For smoking?
Not my study.
I’m just the messenger.
The ol one sentence might-might (maybe-possi-bly … yes low-probabili-ty) arguemen-ty 😂
🕯🌳I seen that to and I’m way past 13 and I don’t have to worry about my daughter. 🖖🖖
I am to, but the point is that the kids need to be extra careful about what gets put in their bodies, because it might not show it’s adverse effects for two or three generations.
A short term study is really not very adequate.
That’s one of those things that I really tried to avoid. Never did do that stuff intentionally. I hope my grandkids turn out ok anyway…
I didn’t read it that way at all.
I figured you were joking, just like the eye-patch thing, hopefully.
No eye patch.
🤔🧐👍.
So does getting sick as a child effect the expression of the genes they pass on to their children. Not just the mother but the father too. The field is relatively new in terms of inherited epigentics. Like most other things, it’s likely that being infected with a virus is more likely to produce those effects than a relative short period that a vaccination does.
Well, as a child under 13 I got sick as a dog when I tried smoking cigarettes, and never smoked again for forty years after that…
So maybe getting sick did have an effect on the expression of the genes I passed on to my children…
And maybe it helped.
And no, nooo, that’s not what the study showed. The part that you may want to focus on is how it says the humans didn’t think it would happen to them, even though the tests showed what was happening to the animals…
If ya know what I mean…
Nooo I do not know what you mean. That was one study on smoking with possible “effects on the second (F2) and third (F3)generations after the initial prepubertal exposure might be the result of DNA methylation or other epigenetic markers being generated in consequence of the obesity of F1 and being inherited non-genetically by F2 and F3. However, before hypotheses are generated as to the mechanisms by which the effects we have shown may have occurred, it is important to seek confirmatory evidence from other studies.” Which is why I mentioned epigenetics. There is already evidence that herpesvirus can cause epigentic changes. So why not sars-cov-2? It is a virus that has already shown epigenetic possibilities too.
It is not simple as an observational study on smoking. There are studies in mice that showed suspected epigenetic changes did not occur in the offspring if they were created in vitro. That lead to suspicion it was an effect of parental care rather than inherited epigenetics. Complex, indefinite and way too early to be spreading rumors about vaccination based on no evidence at all just because you find it entertaining.
Nooo,
Of course you overlooked the part I suggested that maybe you focus on, that even though the humans saw the effects that chemicals had on the animals offspring, they didn’t think it could happen to humans.
Sound familiar?
And for goodness sake, please stop with the neverending retort M.O. of, “COVID’s more of it”…
You neverendlessly represent, without a shred of evidence, that the vaccine will not ever present a serious problem in the long term.
Are you also of the volition that it could never happen in humans?
Either way, you may never see it.
That much is clear.
Proving something is never going to happen is impossible and a silly demand. Alleging some flight of fancy is possible only because something previously unknown might have happened (not yet proven but only a question created by a corellation that’s quite a stretch in itself) when there is zero evidence to support it is a useless . And complaining that someone points out to both those things is a diversion.
In other words, never think ahead when evaluating your choices, because Nooo thinks that’s fantasy. Link please, Nooo.
Here is a website that deals with Epigenitics, very interesting. And the two studies seem to confirm each other. Even what your grandparents ate can effect future generations.
https://fundacjabirn.pl/en/2019/02/19/epigenetics-something-that-we-do-not-have-in-our-genes-and-we-can-still-pass-on-to-our-children/?gclid=CjwKCAiA0KmPBhBqEiwAJqKK49qAcU19aIYZt65uR3Y3t_m7tk5R7zji94SCxuK-A9uB8jrdLKdMNBoCc3cQAvD_BwE
Epigenetic is going to be the next bit of science to be misunderstood, misused and abused. Speculation is fine and useful in the pursuit of answers. But it needs to wait until there are actual answers to start using it as authority for convenient agendas. And there are almost no answers at this point. Not even a theoretical idea if there are any such mechanics for it to even happen. Not that will stop people from sadly trying. Shades of “recovered memories”, pedophile day care centers and convictions based on no evidence.
There would be nothing to answer, if the inventor, investor, and the questioner hadn’t speculated.
It’s a never ending process.
Origin of the phrase ‘The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the sons.’ ,
4 examples found in scripture:
Exodus Chapter 20 : 1-26.
…”visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation of those that hate me, and showing mercy to thousands of those that love Me and keep My commandments…”
Numbers 14 :18
…” visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation.”
Deuteronomy Chapter 5 :9
…”visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation ..”
Jeremiah Chapter 32 :18
….”repay the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their sons after them…”
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Wall Street journal says prior COVID-19 infection offered better protection against the Delta variant than vaccinations. See how ya’all got played, vaxxers?
This will be over on national level soon, cuz the midterms are coming up and the dems are gonna pivot or get crushed. In cali, with one party state, unfortunately will take longer. But the dems still won’t want you to think the covid restrictions/measures are politically.
He left out this information from the WSJ article
Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found
🕯🌳Ooops.🖖🖖
Why oh why do anti vaxxers forget the much increased risk of damage or death from getting that prior infection? Is it because the losers in that challenge are so frequently anti vaxxers?
How is it possible that you still haven’t looked at the data and seen that that increased risk of damage or death was only “much increased” in particular subsets of the population? The risk differences stratified by age and adjusted to particular preexisting conditions are stark.
Because of the laws of probability.
The risk of death or complications from this Chinese bio weapon is so low that I don’t have to worry about it.
Simple. Keep this in mind…
“Made In China”
You know what “of the vaccines I have known in my life tuberculosis, flu, pneumonia, tetanus, rubella, measles, pox, diphtheria, hepatitis and meningitis, none of them have forced me to wear a mask and maintain a social distance even when vaccinated. I have never heard of spreading or having the virus after vaccination. I have never heard of awards, prizes, discounts, incentives to get vaccinated. I have never saw discrimination toward those who did not, if you have been vaccinated no one has tried to make you feel like a bad person. I have never seen a vaccine that threatens the relationship between family, colleagues and friends. I have never seen a vaccine used to threaten livelihoods, work or school. I have never seen a vaccine let a 12 year old override parental consent.
Of all of the vaccines listed, I have never seen a vaccine like this one, which discriminates, divides, and judges society as it is. And as the social fabric tightens…it’s a powerful vaccine!! It does all these things, except IMMUNIZE!!!”” Is what they are saying
Also I didn’t get polio, or spread mumps.
“Pan”, and “Weiner”, (yes those are the real names of the two pieces of work that came up with the bill to allow 12 year olds to get vaccinated without parental consent, and they sound made for each other), need to be soundly defeated, come next election, and if that bonkers bill makes it to the Governor’s desk, and he signs it, as far as I’m concerned, the last time I voted in favor of him, will be the last time.
Let’s remember “Pan”, and “Wiener”, and never vote for them again, or more approximately, let’s turn up the heat…
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Y’know, if I never hear the word vaccine or booster or see the redundant images of masks, needles or the hyper-scary guy vented on the bed, I’ll be fine!!!
Get the shot or don’t. Mask or not. Stay normal body weight eschewing processed crap or go on and just maintain that 100 extra pounds and hit the dairy, alcohol and bread aisles, and KFC 2x daily! Because at some point y’all gonna have to get over your obsession with what OTHERS are doing, or not doing , and deal with your own health. Your own habits. Your own relationship with food, with nature, with your body, with God.
It’s time to admit defeat. The shots are a disaster. Flattening the curve failed. The dorky handkerchief mandates failed.. Distancing . Quarantines. All dramatics! The dice rolled how they rolled, but the bulk of the stats clearly show the elderly and paradoxically malnourished fat folks got hammered the hardest. Take heed. And move the fuck on!
In my opinion the death toll on real journalism was the highest loss. Questioning this insane, fearful narrative, and the disgusting money-driven mad science is entirely lacking. And those that have dared to question or point out overt risks have been silenced. It’s shocking -or was at first. Now I just assume anything that has any iota of truth to it will soon be erased and never to be found easily again. The powers that be are slowly becoming in charge of what you will know . In fact we are being told what to believe, who to believe, how to believe. Death toll for critical thinking is over 99%. And instead journalists have become mouth pieces for Pfizer , Modena, Fauci and the lying duplicitous CDC.
Yes! The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.
Yup. Death and disability are over hyped topics for sure…
Yeah, until “God, I should have got the jab.” The ventilator end.
Perhaps Dr. Malone is correct. Perhaps not. I had a heart attack in my 70’s 6 months after my second jab. Is it related? Maybe, or maybe not. After recovering for 4 weeks, I got the booster. Mad? Maybe. Personal choice—yes. I still may be able to spread it around if I get it, but just maybe I’ll live through it. I have stopped pretending that I cannot infect others if I’m positive, but I have taken these risks for myself by getting vaxxed.
You sound like a person for whom the choice of risk of infection vs potential risk of vaccination is fairly cut and dried.
I’d hope you could appreciate that many of us aren’t geriatrics with heart issues and and risk posed by infection are several orders of magnitude lower than they are for you. Meaning that the benefit of vaccination is much much lower whole the risks, both known and unknown, are unchanged.
I’m glad that you had access to a fast tracked medicine that you believe is important for your health
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awesome comment.. agree with everything you said 100%
If the anti vaxxer misinformation isn’t repeated so constantly, magically you’ll never have to “see the redundant images of masks, needles or the hyper-scary guy vented on the bed” again.
Nooo, you got some more splainin’to do…
The county says 13 times the risk of hospitalization if you are unvaccinated…
For adults? Why for adults?
REALLY??? That’s total bullshit!!!
9 hospitalizations in the last week, 4 vaxxed, 4 unvaxxed and 1 undetermined.
Eliminating the undetermined hospitalization, it’s 4 to 4.
Thats 1 to 1.
There are 1.7 times as many vaxxed as there are unvaxxed.
So, for the last week, it’s only 1.7 times as likely to have been hospitalized, if you were unvaccinated…
Not 17 times, like they said it was on 1/7/2022 !, not 11 times, like they said it was on 1/14/2022 !, and not 13 times like they said it was on 1/21/2022 !
For the last week, it’s been on 1/10th of what they said it was just 15 days ago! That’s right, ONE F—–ING TENTH !
Only 1.7 times as likely to be hospitalized for the last week if you were not vaccinated.
Explain why they are still representing the additional unvaccinated risk as 13 times the risk, when it’s only been 1.7 times as likely to be hospitalized in the last week, nooo?
Blaming the other again auntie o? What about the vaccinated half of the hospitalized population this week?
Lol your no logic argument really got me. Ok. Let’s just ignore the huge spike in “cases” compared to pre vaccine, and look away from the absolute tsunami of full blown infections and DEATH in the fully vaxxed, and just keep banging the “anti vaxxer misinformation” drum. Bang on!
First Bidenflation steals 7% of our income and savings in 2021 (and forecast to steal another 10% in 2022) and now Biden’s policies are crashing the markets stealing more than 5% of our retirement accounts just this last week! Joe’s answer to fight inflation? Trillions more of new federal stimulus! Did Crazy Uncle Joe flunk economics class in college or is he just stupid? We can’t afford this idiot anymore! His answer, start a war with Russia to distract us from his abject domestic failure.
🕯🌳Who said we started it? According to you there buddies with Russia. 🖖🖖
Your Joe is toast, abandoned even by his leftist media cabal.
On COVID-19, Biden said he’s done remarkably well. This is hard to square with the standard Biden set in the election, when he said Trump was unfit for office after being responsible for 220,000 COVID-19 deaths. By this metric, Biden is now responsible for 400,000 COVID-19 deaths — the opposite of his promise to come in and “shut down” the virus.
In a rare admission, Biden acknowledged that there have been delays in his administration getting testing kits out. He didn’t mention that those delays were directly caused by his own staff. Back in October, testing experts recommended that the Biden administration send COVID-19 tests to American households before the holidays. Biden’s staff rejected the idea. As a result, people in towns across America waited in incredibly long lines for tests over the holidays.
🕯🌳Why’d you change the subject?🖖🖖
The original subject was Bidenflation ravaging our financial wellbeing but as to Ukraine, why are the Biden administration and neocons beating war drums? That’s what gets a war started.
Because they’re puppets for the military-industrial complex. The ones who make money in good times or bad times, but especially in times of war; wars that America have been in almost perpetually since Vietnam… until President Trump was elected. US involvement in wars were ending. The man walked alone into North Korea for peace.
Pretty easy to see why the Oligarchs, War Mongers, Socialists and others that hate a free United States of America wanted President Trump to NOT serve another term.
BREAKING: State Department orders families of U.S. embassy personnel in Ukraine to begin evacuating the country as soon as Monday: U.S. officials
Update: Germany: According to a media report, the Federal Foreign Office is working on an evacuation plan for the relatives of the German embassy employees in the Ukraine.
Monday? What the Russians don’t do invasions on weekends? “take the weekend off men” If invasion is eminent I recommend they get out of there today..
Depends on your time zone I guess.
Biden has it covered “Vlad, the United States absolutely demands you put off your minor invasion of Ukraine until Tuesday so we have time to pack”
🕯🌳We’re not beating the war drums Russia is. 🖖🖖
Let the Russians beat their war drums and kick Ukraines ass if they want to. Doesn’t mean we have to respond. I don’t give a fuck if Hunter’s oil company gets fucked up.
“Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin’
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it’s your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly”
Masters of War -Bob Dylan-
“why are the Biden administration and neocons beating war drums”
Better understand who’s beating on what. Putin and Xi love that Trump increasingly divided the US (don’t try and BS around that fact) thus increased weakness.
Ukraine and Taiwan. The US has run around for many decades, feeding into the wonders that is Democracy, thus pissing off the mono-Party capitalists (the perfect blend, eh?). We peaked, years ago, and not even the Trumpster-fire can stave it off (civil war anyone?)
Buy gold.
🕯🌳Invest in water. 🖖🖖
Gold doesn’t taste good and it’s hard to chew.
Might want to check out the china system of social scores, been planning it since Nixon / Kissinger.
Obama first earned the handle Divider- in-Chief. Trump campaigned on the division Obama created then Biden drives the wedge deeper. Let’s not forget Hillary’s “deplorables” comment. Only 36% say they’d vote for Biden again
🕯🌳I’d like to see the field of players before I vote for anyone. 🖖🖖
Ahem, a lot of people didn’t want a Black man, and with such the name, as Prez! Outgrowth of the Bush Wars. You know this. And other stuff, that goes back, speaks volumes. Like starting with The Wise Use Movement pushback on environmentalism, Americans for Taxpayer Reform BS to narrow Gov spending on helpful things (uh, but GOP Administrations outspend Dems 😂), the Tea Party years (eye roll, all the flag waving, pre-cursor to MAGA Nationalist Populism) and so on and so forth toward ….Militancy, and with tens of millions of useful idiots who think the election was stolen, conned by a man who sought to … steal the election! 😂
Do you think Trump won 2020?
When he goes down for bonafide crimes, real, easily documented, who is your choice, Squirrel, to replace him? A Trump Jr of some kind? Or a GOP centrist (a type you folks have already eviscerated, so wouldn’t that be interesting, watching MAGA crawl back from trashing the actual majority in their own Party).
“Your Joe is toast, abandoned even by his leftist media cabal”
Excellent segment from last night’s premiere of Bill Maher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bQ2rctogOs&ab_channel=RealTimewithBillMaher
Ah yes, the old “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” school of political blaming.
The right shouts, “ INFLATION IS KILLING US AND BIDEN DOES NOTHING!”
The Fed reduces the economic stimulus and makes plans to raise interest rates to calm inflation. The stock market responds accordingly.
The right shouts, “THE MARKET IS CRASHING AND IT IS ALL BIDEN’S FAULT!”
*sigh*
Now who is it that didn’t pay attention in economics class?
Fed wouldn’t need to intervene so aggressively of not for Biden’s ill conceived American Rescue Plan overheating the economy
In other words, if the Democratic American Rescue Plan hadn’t been so successful, the stock market wouldn’t have gone up so high which then caused the Fed to raise rates, which then caused the stock market to come back down.
If the stimulus hadn’t passed then the stock market would’ve stagnated, unemployment would still be high and you would’ve complained about your 401k not increasing enough.
Like I wrote earlier, it doesn’t matter what the Biden administration does, you would’ve hated it and blamed whatever you perceived was wrong with the economy on them.
Click read more please.
Lunch box Joe? Who’s running the government?
Biden’s closest advisors have ties to big business and Wall Street with some making millionsPublished Sat, Mar 20 20212:26 PM EDTUpdated Sun, Mar 21 2021
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/20/bidens-closest-advisors-have-ties-to-big-business-with-some-making-millions.html
July 31, 2020, 1:24 PM
Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden’s team of informal foreign-policy and national security advisors has expanded to over 2,000 people, including 20 working groups spanning issues from diversity in national security to arms control, defense, intelligence, and homeland security, according to campaign officials and an internal list of the co-chairs of those groups obtained by Foreign Policy.
The Europe team has over 100 people on its roster, according to several people familiar with the matter. It is co-led by three former national security officials in the Obama administration: Julie Smith, who until recently co-edited Foreign Policy’s “Shadow Government” column; Michael Carpenter; and Spencer Boyer.
The ideas and advice are then sent up to a small inner circle of Biden loyalists, including Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Avril Haines, Brian McKeon, and Julie Smith, who are likely to serve as the national security brain trust for a Biden administration. What happens with that advice is a mystery to many of those who supply it, with one official saying it seems like much of the policy initiatives disappear into a black hole.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/31/inside-biden-campaign-foreign-policy-team/
So your entire argument is that instead of an administration that brings together groups of experts to provide advice, we should instead have one like the previous administration that listened to no one (except perhaps Fox media personalities) and couldn’t be bothered with finding out even the basic facts on the issues before making decisions.
We have very different ideas of what makes up a good presidency. I’m not a big fan of the current President, but he’s still miles better than the previous one.
“What happens with that advice is a mystery to many”
“but he’s still miles better than the previous one”
But the country and the people aren’t better off.
What exactly makes him better?
IMO Trump was doing a good job until Covid happened, it’s been terrible ever since, in all ways.
Biden’s just so incompetent – he’s screwed up everything he’s touched, just as Obama warned.
You’re kinda saying Obama rocks. 😂
Compared to Biden?
Even Obama’s economic guru blames the American Rescue Plan for our uncontrolled inflation that’s likely to force a recession so please take an economics refresher course
Here’s a non-partisan evaluation of the impact of the ARP on inflation.
https://www.epi.org/blog/fiscal-policy-and-inflation-a-look-at-the-american-rescue-plans-impact-and-what-it-means-for-the-build-back-better-act/
Ah, now you have two votes for Obama. Nice! Summers, he’s OK. But, the virus wreaked havoc on the economy and systems (supply chain, etc). Of wait , now you’ll pivot from the actual virus to the vax and gov response (evil fauci 😂, etc) as the problem. Some folks just always spin on their heals, never looking inward. Tuckers.
🕯🌳Epigenetics/ relating to or arising from nongenetic influences on the gene expression.”epigenetic carcinogen”
LIVE: Yellow Vests march through Paris to protest against ‘vaccination pass’ and other govt policies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZLFXqdhLQ&ab_channel=Ruptly
Stor demonstration mot coronarestriktioner i Stockholm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4co4wsVFQ-8&ab_channel=Riks
🕯🌳Its a freedom of choice and shouldn’t be mandated. 🖖🖖
Babies, starting wars over a vaccine to treat a pandemic. Sad,
As the virus wanes, millions of lives saved by vax, tens of millions more having skirted significant suffering and medical treatment, where will the magaright turn? Oh, Joe Bye-Don inflation, Ukraine, and back to …. Hunter again. 😂 (Really, Hunter?)
And when that stuff ebbs, what then? Gonna rush the doors of Rikers Island, to free the Donny, y’know, like the good ‘ol days?
How are your counting lives saved? Just picking large numbers out of thin air?
Basic search of reputable sources. Really, give it a go. For one, try “lives saved by covid vaccination”.
So what you’re saying is you read someone else picking a big impressive sounding number and just decided to believe it. Got it
So what your saying is reputable sources, who source data from other reputable sources, don’t fit with your conspiracy mindset. Got it. Enjoy your Rogan.
From unsupported claims to uninformed personal insults. I wonder why fewer and fewer people are convinced of your world view? Check some reputable sources and see if you can figure it out
“So what you’re saying is you read someone else picking a big impressive sounding number and just decided to believe it.“
Check yourself.
heh-soos, it’s 62 degrees here along the coast and La Niña has abandoned us.
Light a candle and say 3 Hail Mary’s and 1 Our Father to appease Her.
Old Farmers Almanac has a Jan-Feb weather prediction, for Pacific Northwest
https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/region/us/15
A simple request and a grateful heart when you receive, can cause miracles. God hears you.
Religion loves to complicate simple things for a price of course..
Well said…..Best thing I have heard on here today. Was the religion saying from you? Should be made into a poster.,
Thanks.
The first part, I know it’s my MO.
Never read the second part anywhere, just my personal conclusion.
Here’s the thing with me and the religious thing. This is the flat-out truth: I find the religiosity and philosophy in the music. I don’t find it anywhere else.
Bob Dylan
So true.
Biden’s the fall guy but, Who’s the real POTUS?
Psaki lets it slip…
Psaki: “I love working for President Obam…”
Jen Psaki on Biden’s Latest Steps to Mitigate COVID-19 and U.S. Tensions with Russia | The View
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KwliRhiv0w&ab_channel=TheView
Jan 22 (Reuters) – A 1,500-acre fire near the coastal community of Big Sur, California triggered evacuations and closed part of a major highway, state and local officials said on Saturday.
The Colorado Fire, which has been active since Friday, was 5% contained, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) said.
A 20-mile stretch of State Highway 1, a scenic north-south route on the Pacific Coast, was closed from near the beach town of Carmel-by-the-Sea to Andrew Molera State Park.
Vice President Kamala Harris plans to visit a San Bernardino fire station Friday to announce the federal government will provide California $600 million to help the state recover from a historically severe wildfire season while highlighting plans to spend $5 billion more to address the dangers posed by fires, an administration official said. Borrowed your comment Rimme, it fits.
Ho hum. Two decades late and about 2 trillion dollars short. Sad the democrats who control the $$$$$ couldn’t get it together before the death and destruction over that time, Tubbs, Glass, etc, etc. Forests and wild lands along with the suburban rural wildland interface do need to be managed for fire and forestry, but as we all know, that has not been possible due to extraneous circumstances. Now that the donor class and important peoples houses and forests are burning, it’s an EMERGENCY. Nice distraction. Nothing will work for joe and his sidekick. It’s over. Remember, Mask Up, we are all in this together, uh huh. You can pass on the boiled cabbage and potato soup, Nancy.
AMAZING Color Photos of the Great Depression – A Photo Album of Life in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2A-CbF_sas&ab_channel=RecollectionRoad
7 minutes
🕯🌳Thank you for that information. 🖖🖖
Even leftist rag The Guardian doesn’t have anything good to say…
Biden’s Build Back Better plan, a massive reconciliation package containing initiatives on issues from the climate crisis to childcare is, for now, dead in the water; Manchin and Sinema will determine whether any of its provisions survive in attenuated form.
Immigration reform and healthcare reform, both central to Democratic intra-party debates during the 2020 primaries, have fallen entirely off the radar. The US supreme court may overturn Roe v Wade in the coming months. The latest wave of the coronavirus pandemic is still ravaging the country thanks not only to Covid denialists and vaccine skeptics on the right, but an administration that has struggled to keep its promises on easy access to tests. Abroad, Biden’s courageous withdrawal from Afghanistan – a kept promise even the president’s harshest critics on the left were willing to give him credit for – has been marred by economic sanctions that have left 23 million Afghans without enough to eat, and the media is already itching to blame Biden for a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
You know, what I’m curious about is if this administration truly had the most votes in any election in history… why do they want to change the voting laws??!
Strange isn’t it.
Bernie ain’t happy either.
Sanders says Republicans are ‘laughing all the way to Election Day’
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/590959-sanders-says-biden-cant-count-on-him-to-support-almost-any
Breaking News!
Joe Biden has tested positive for the Moronavirus!
CNN) During what has been another devastating surge of Covid-19 across the country, there is good news: Some states are starting to see infection numbers and hospitalizations drop. But it is not the case everywhere.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/01/22/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
Oh Joe, say it ain’t so…
“President Biden marked the end of his first year in office with a two-hour press conference,” co-anchor Colin Jost began, “because that’s how long it took to list everything that’s gone wrong.”
He noted it was actually the longest presidential press conference in history but “as I have been told many times before, just because you went for a long time doesn’t mean you did a good job.”
Are you passing this off as original writing too?
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&source=android-browser&q=“President+Biden+marked+the+end+of+his+first+year+in+office+with+a+two-hour+press+conference%2C”+co-anchor+Colin+Jost+began%2C+“because+that’s+how+long+it+took+to+list+everything+that’s+gone+wrong.”
Actually, not that most of your pals @ RHBB care to notice, but your original writings are a stark difference from the ones you steal from others.
Is “stark difference” the right words?
Kym isn’t allowing the observational notes regarding educational levels between the writing styles.
Hospitalizations are dropping, but not everywhere?
Are they dropping at the same rate for vaccinated as they are dropping for the unvaccinated…
What about in Humboldt?
The answers is, the hospitalizations have slightly increased in Humboldt in the last three weeks.
But, the relative hospitalization rate for the, “unvaccinated”, is actually dropping!, and fast!…
Imagine that…
On 1/7/2022, for the previous week, unvaccinated hospitalizations were 4.67 times the fully vaccinated hospitalizations.
But, on 1/14/2022, for the previous week, it had dropped to 4.24 times.
And, on 1/21/2022, for the previous week, the rate for unvaccinated hospitalizations had dropped all the way down to only 1.7 times that of the fully vaccinated…
That’s right it’s dropped down to only 1.7 times.
That’s down allot.
And what is Hoffman, and the County of Humboldt, still foolishly and deceitfully yammering on and on about in regards to the increased risk of hospitalization for the unvaccinated?
“Twhooooot!, Twhooooot!”
“Heeyyy, maaannn!, It’s like, it’s like,
Eleventy-thirteen times higher, man!”
“Aaaaahhhhh!”
Hmmm… To be only twice as many out of a smaller population at one point in time sounds like a good reason to get vaccinated There’s yammering and there’s yammering.
Those rates of infection, hospitalization, and death are all normalized for the rate in the relevant population.
There were as many vaccinated hospitalizations as there were unvaccinated this last week.
This of course is in keeping with trend of hospitalizations following infections by a couple weeks. Vaccinated infections topped unvaccinated 3 weeks ago, now hospitalizations are following.
LIVE: Anti-vaccine mandate opponents march in Washington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmCF6mNEF58&ab_channel=Reuters
🤔🧐I’m a little confused,☕.
I do see that your using a quote…
However, “Anti-vaccine mandate “opponents” march…”?
The way that they phrased that seems a little “wonky”.
Isn’t that a double negative?
Doesn’t that parse to,
“Vaccine mandate ,’proponents’ march…?
Shouldn’t the news agency have said, “Vaccine mandate opponents march…”?
( I did only watch about 15 seconds… Was there an “Anti-vaccine mandate opponents”, counter-protest march, as well, that I missed?)
You know, like, marchers protesting the vaccine mandate protesters march?
That’s what it sort of sounds like to me…
I agree, but I don’t change what they post, Just doesn’t seem like the right thing to do.
You did fine,☕,
It just sounded to me like they came up with a pretty poorly worded headline.
It sounded like a clash between two totally different types of protesters.
Speaking of yammering…
That IS adjusted for population, nooo.
Per capita, 1 vaccinated hospitalization, to 1.7 “unvaccinated*” hospitalizations.
As you can plainly see if you look, the raw numbers are 4 to 4, which divides to 1 to 1. And there are 1.7 times as many vaccinated.
I eliminated the 1 with an unknown status, from the equation…
( * Includes the partially vaccinated hospitalizations).
Does that still sound like such a good idea to get vaccinated?
What does that mean the fully vaccinated efficacy against hospitalization has been for the last week, nooo?
About 31%?
Explain that, if you can, nooo.
Kym, how about you?
Next Fauci won’t just be saying,
“Don’t pay any attention to the skyrocketing breakthrough cases, just pay attention to the hospitalizations and deaths”.
He will be saying to,
“Also ignore the steadily increasing cases of breakthrough hospitalizations”.
and
“Only observe the efficacy against deaths”.
But maybe the only reason the vaccine will even appear to be effective against death, is that Omicron likely wasn’t ever really going to cause many deaths in the first place?
Maybe it isn’t the vaccine that’s doing it at all?
You are just using a weeks worth of data. Not sufficient to prove anything. Have you checked the national numbers?. And 2articles posted here state that boosters are effective against serious disease and hospitalization.
Big difference between 1.7 times against hospitalization, and eleventy-thirteen times against hospitalization.
Now as far as deception goes, see if you can parse this time frame, given by the County, for the thirteen times statement, and maybe speculate momentarily on why they wouldn’t have made the dates clearer…🤔🧐
Tell me, what is the time frame, in the following screenshot…
Jan. 2 to Jan. 8 ??? WTF
Is it for a period of 6 days, very recently, or is it for 361 days, not so recently, or appropriately, and do you also recognize the attempt at deception?
Jan. 2, 2021, to Jan. 8, 2022 ? 361 days. ???
Or as they deceptively suggest, Jan. 2, 2022 to Jan. 8, 2022 ? 6 days. ???
Keep in mind the dates that the vaccines rolled out…
And notice the use of the word “currently”, when describing the, “13 times”, statement…
And as I have already pointed out, for that 6 day period, it was only between 4.24, and 4.67 times.
Jan. 2 to Jan. 8, wouldn’t fit into a weeks reporting period, that also means the “current” comparison, was actually for the last 361 days, it’s very deceptive.
Forget the Dashboard. forget Hoffman.
Do you or do you not believe that the vaccine is helping against serious disease and hospitalization?
Is still helping? Not as much, no.
With Omicron? No, not really.
Against hospitalization? Is that even an issue?
No, not as much, obviously.
And no, I don’t think it’s helping much, and not as much, obviously.
Is it the vaccine that is working against hospitalization still, or is there just no longer such a threat?
Do you, or do you not, acknowledge that the vaccines aren’t making anywhere near the difference that that used to against the previous variants anymore?
Do you, or do you not acknowledge, that for the last week, the additional risk of hospitalization, in Humboldt, associated with being, “unvaccinated”, is only 1.7 times, and nowhere near the eleven to thirteen times that the County keeps inappropriately suggesting?
You can keep running circles around it if you wish, but that is the current situation, and it’s a matter of fact.
Not helping as much? How does 90% sound to you? Not even going down the rabbit hole with your dashboard issue
Oh come on beetlejuice,
You can’t really be serious, can you?
Isn’t it plain enough to see, that in order for your 90% statement to be true, there would need to be 9, per capita, unvaccinated hospitalizations, for every 1, per capita, fully vaccinated hospitalization?
It’s currently 1.7 to 1,
last week it was 4.24 to 1,
and the week before that,
it was 4.67 to 1.
Continuing, week by week, to be fair…
11 to 1
8.5 to 1
4 to 1,
NA
NA
NA
5 to 1
2.5 to 1
3.25 to 1
NA
2.22 to 1
12 to 1
6 to 1
1.75 to 1
5.44 to 1
2.08 to 1
4.1 to 1
That’s going back 20 weeks.
I see 9 to 1, or more, in precisely 1 week. Call it 2 if you average it with the following week.
That’s it.
You’re starting to sound like Fauci…
It’s been less than 4.67, 4.24, and 1.7 for each of the last 3 weeks, respectively.
Time to adjust the narrative, and cease the Bullshit.
Sensationalized, misleading, alternate facts, should not be being used to push vaccinations or boosters, especially for children, as the statistics being used, do not even apply to them.
And, pray tell, how many weeks of data are you using to prove your 90% statement?
Scroll back up look at Ms Kemp’s post concerning boosters. . Then scroll up and look at my post about boosters. Forget the dashboard,!!!! You are so concerned about those dashboard numbers. Once again forget the dashboard. Has nothing to do with what I am taliking about. Listen I am getting tired of dealing with this. I will not reply to anymore comments about this.
She says about 90% her link says 82%. ( The headline says 90% but that is not substantiated by the links studies.)
Did you bother to even look at the link of “Ms. Kemps”. Did she?
The “about 90% claim” doesn’t jibe with the links claim of 82% against Omicron.
Maybe you need to forget about Al Jazeera.
I will illustrate the problem…
How did you get 90%?
Did you just believe Kym, who just believed Al Jazeera, when the information in the link didn’t even confirm Al Jazeera’s headline?
That’s called blind allegiance, to blind allegiance.
Sighs…..read the article again.
Ok, beetlejuice, here is what the Al Jazeera link said…
“The booster doses were 90% effective at keeping people out of the hospital [after they had become infected with the Omicron variant]”.
But that isn’t true.
(Emphasis on the bracketed text, mine, being totally incorrect.) I’ll get back to this.
I will acknowledge that I misread the part about the reduction from 94% to 82% being about hospitalizations… That was for ED or UC.
The wall prevented easy reading, and only two or three lines at a time were visible for me.
However, I bypassed Your precious All Jazeera, as the fact twister it obviously is…
And I went straight to the CDC study in question, and it was very revealing. It was an “early release”, and Al Jazeera totally botched the translation.
The supposed Omicron aspect of the infections associated with the hospitalization study in question was totally “guestimated”, not “confirmed” Omicron cases, as revealed by the sixth of the study’s seven limitations.
They just happened to happen when Omicron was happening…
They could have just as easily been Delta, which the vaccines and boosters happen to work against. Omicron, not so much.
So, bottom line, you put to much faith in that study, and they hadn’t been necessarily “infected with the Omicron variant”, like Al Jazeera misrepresented, and both you and Kym, just a little too readily, accepted as being true.
Take special note of limitation #6 of 7, from the CDC study.
#5 and #7 are also included.
Read the actual CDC study.
Is this what you mean?
Yeah it says 90%…
Against Covid19 when the Omicron was supposedly around, but not necessarily after they had actually been infected with Omicron…
Read the actual CDC study’s 7 limitations…
Kym should too. An eye opener, hopefully. Then let’s hear it…
‘Al Jazerra’ didn’t even come close to getting it right.
Emphasis on the…
“During Delta- and Omicron- predominant periods”
Not even close to, “after they had become infected with the Omicron variant”.
‘Al Jazeera’, has just been debunked.
Try reading this one, this time, straight from the horses mouth.
(The CDC that is.)…
Focus on the 7 limitations. #6 in particular.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e3.htm?s_cid=mm7104e3_x
Here are the other 4 limitations…
This is from the article I posted
One of the new CDC reports analyzed data from hundreds of thousands of emergency room visits, urgent care visits and hospitalizations between August 2021 and Jan. 5, 2022. It showed that a third dose of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna shots reduces the chance of hospitalization by 90 percent compared to unvaccinated people, and reduces the chance of a trip to the emergency room by 82 percent. The data covered a period that includes three weeks when omicron was the predominant variant
This from your CDC link
. During both Delta- and Omicron-predominant periods, receipt of a third vaccine dose was highly effective at preventing COVID-19–associated emergency department and urgent care encounters (94% and 82%, respectively) and preventing COVID-19–associated hospitalizations (94% and 90%, respectively
End of story.
Not one infection was confirmed Omicron. Could have just as easily been infected with Delta.
That means that booster is 90% effective against Omicron infection hospitalizations statement is just a complete reach is totally unsubstantiated.
Bottom line.
Maybe you just don’t understand limitation #6., Or any of the 7 that apply to this study, for that matter.
So were they Delta infections, or Omicron infections?
The fact is…
There is no way of knowing, is there?
So the statement,
“The booster for Moderna and Pfizer provides about 90% effective against Omicron hospitalizations”,
Couldn’t possibly have been proven, and therefore couldn’t have been what the CDC study concluded.
Because the associated infections being attributed to Omicron or Delta, were not confirmed, they were only guesstimated.
Why is it so hard to admit that?
Yep you found it, but that doesn’t say jack shit about actually being infected with Omicron, does it?
It’s all about the vicinity.
This is also from the article you referenced, and directed me to, that Kym posted.
“The booster doses were 90% effective at keeping people out of the hospital [AFTER THEY HAD BECOME INFECTED WITH THE OMICRON VARIANT]”.
Brackets and Capitalization mine, illustrating the bullshit lie.
[EMPHASIS ON THE BULLSHIT].
Do you see it?
Show me where the CDC study shows any thing about them actually being infected with Omicron.
Do you see it yet?
Read limitation #6.
Some people just can’t admit it when they are dead wrong.
But vaccines aren’t nearly so good against omicron
You want to talk about insufficient data doesn’t prove anything, and then you want to talk about article that are based on insufficient data?
Hypocritical much?
Your stated articles base their conclusions on a 1.794% subset of the study that they reference, and then they draw an inappropriate, incorrect conclusion.
1/55th? Are you serious?
Or did you forget to do your homework?
And you want to accuse me of that?
Maybe you need to check out yourself?
🤔🧐
Fiders keepers, losers weepers…
Read’em and weep, beetlejuice.
“the only reason the vaccine will even appear to be effective against death, is that Omicron (or any covid-19 form) likely wasn’t ever really going to cause many deaths in the first place”…
Yes. This . It has been my gut instinct all along. It’s all beentheatrics. Nothing about health at all.
The initial spike pre-vaccjnes was it. And while infections were s th I’ll notable that surge was waning at the time the injections came on the scene, giving the false illusion of efficacy. Instead , going forward the virus behaved exactly like predicted when you vaccinate when infection rate is still significant. It fosters more variants and resultant universal susceptibility.
Thanks a lot team Fauci!
👍
True that, omicron doesn’t have the lethality of earlier variants. More cases but far lower rates of cases leading to hospitalizion and death.
And not necessarily the vaccine that’s making the difference.
Why do they keep, representing that it’s the vaccine that is making the difference, when that isn’t necessarily even true?
Are people with strokes and heart attacks that die, and are vaxxed being counted as covid deaths?
I doubt it.
that’s just that post pandemic stress disorder. probably the fault of the unvaccinated ultimately
And I quote “ Not my study.
I’m just the messenger.”
Are you saying that Hoffman is just the messenger?
Hoffman didn’t have anything to do with the CNN article. Your the one that said the quote.
What’s the point?
I suppose you are insinuating now, that I am, somehow,
Mr. Messenger?
“Hospitalizations are dropping, but not everywhere? “ your reply to me concerning article. I replied using your quote. Get it? Wasting my time here will not respond to anymore comments about this issue
You’re actually wasting my time,
beetlejuice,with any links to ‘Al Jazeera’, or a misguided “redirect” to it.
Try someone that actually understands English.
You would have saved everyone time by just providing a link directly to the CDC study, and not to some wonky ass mistranslation.
Like I said,
1 to 1.7
Boots on the ground.
Not 1 to 9, like you are trying to say,
without even reading the appropriate study, or linking to it.
I did provide a link to the CDC study. So you are wrong again.
All 100 lab monkeys accounted for after several escape truck crash in Pennsylvania
The location of the quarantine facility and the type of research for which the monkeys were apparently destined weren’t clear, but cynomolgus monkeys are often used in medical studies. A 2015 paper posted on the website of the National Center for Biotechnology Information referred to them as the most widely used primate in preclinical toxicology studies.
Earlier, police had earlier urged people not to look for or capture any monkey, with troopers tweeting: “Anyone who sees or locates the monkey is asked not to approach, attempt to catch, or come in contact with the monkey. Please call 911 immediately.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/01/23/monkeys-who-escaped-after-pennsylvania-truck-crash-all-accounted/6628838001/
“The location of the quarantine facility and the type of research for which the monkeys were apparently destined weren’t clear, but cynomolgus monkeys are often used in medical studies.”
Why isn’t it clear?
Will it be made clear?
poor monkeys.. so much sick, evil torture still being done to defenseless animals by sadistic scientists in the name of science.. it makes me sick to my stomach if i ever allow myself to think about it.. same with factory farms.. as always animals are treated as nothing more than a tool for human’s advancement. anyone with a conscience or any empathy at all for other sentient creatures could never perform these “experiments”. i hope they did escape and spread some plague or something around.. revenge for human selfishness and lack of compassion.
Amen!
Small farmers are more likely to be grass fed naturally raised operations.
America’s independent cattle ranchers say major corporations in the beef industry are squeezing them out — and that the Biden administration is letting it happen.
President Biden issued a sweeping executive order in July directing federal agencies to address anti-competitive behavior by big meatpacking companies.
But farmers say Biden hasn’t gone far enough to rein in larger meatpacking companies, a handful of which control the bulk of the hog, cattle and chicken markets.
Unless regulators break those companies up, farmers say, the administration’s current reforms won’t have much long-term effect.
“We want to bring some semblance of competition back to cattle market,” said Tim Gibbons of the Missouri Rural Crisis Center, which represents 5,600 farming families.
“Missouri has 50,000 cattle producers, but 80 percent of beef packing is controlled by four companies,” Gibbons said, adding that while Biden has spoken out on some of the biggest issues, “nothing has changed.”
In particular, ranchers point to an Obama-era legal reform that allowed meatpackers to label any beef product — regardless of where the cattle were raised — as “Product of USA” if it was processed in the country.
https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/590941-small-ranchers-say-biden-letting-them-get-squeezed
I was shocked by what seemed to me to be the incredible naivete of that nice family who got in their car and drove some distance to try to help “rescue” the escaped monkeys. “We really wanted to help save them.” Save them. Do they know, have they the slightest idea of the sort of fate that might conceivably await those poor escapees, headed to the lab for medical “research”? They might have been better off freezing to death.
Mrs. Guest,those are all volunteer monkeys
Wrong, MRS. TRB
Lets by pass the stupid stuff.
OK?
🤔🧐I agree. And I agree.🤷♂️
As the war drums beat, the US dumps billions into Ukraine, and the corrupt Ukrainian politicians bag tens of millions for their quick exodus, it’s time for American voters to fully understand the millions that Hunter and “the Big Guy” skimmed off the country over the last half a dozen years. It’s unbelievable that our Dem friends so willingly turn a blind eye to Hunter’s corruption machine. Will we need to wait until after the midterms to learn the truth? Then again, the corrupt Biden machine also collected bribes from Russians (and Chinese) so which side are they on?
It’s amazing the things the dems don’t want to know.
🕯🌳Can you prove the bribes?🖖🖖
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html
FLASHBACK, 2018: Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine To Force Firing Of Prosecutor
Coauthors Joe Biden and Michael Carpenter discuss the article, “How to Stand Up to the Kremlin: Defending Democracy Against Its Enemies,” which appears in the January/February issue of Foreign Affairs. SPEAKERS Joseph R. Biden, Jr., Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement; 47th Vice President of the United States (2009 to 2017)\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_AqpdwqK4&t=3109s&ab_channel=CouncilonForeignRelations
That would be the prosecutor investigating the gas co. Hunter was bribing, um, working for.
Kind of gets me thinking about the Biden’s energy shut down in the good ole USA.
Where’d you go Willie.
Crickets.
Funny how people disappear when they have no reasonable response……………off to feed the chickens maybe?
🕯🌳I have a life I don’t let people live in my head rent free. 🖖🖖
Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.
Joe Biden leveraged aid to remove top prosecutor as part anti-corruption efforts
It’s true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn’t because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn’t pursuing corruption among the country’s politicians
Let’s follow up and investigate Hunter’s laptop.
One month before a purported leak of files from Hunter Biden’s laptop, a fake “intelligence” document about him went viral on the right-wing internet, asserting an elaborate conspiracy theory involving former Vice President Joe Biden’s son and business in China.
The document, a 64-page composition that was later disseminated by close associates of President Donald Trump, appears to be the work of a fake “intelligence firm” called Typhoon Investigations, according to researchers and public documents
You forgot the “also” at the end.
NEW YORK CITY, NY – Former Hunter Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski says he has hired an ex-Navy Seal team to protect him and his family. Bobulinski says the protection is needed as he reveals details of Biden’s shady business deals.
The 48-year-old retired US Navy lieutenant has alleged that Hunter Biden was part of a million-dollar family scheme involving Chinese officials. Bobulinski claims Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was involved in the scheme with his son.
During an interview Tuesday with Fox News host Tucker Carlson, Bobulinski said:
“I have a former Seal Team protecting my family… I’m not home right now.”
Bobulinski is a Navy veteran and the former head of SinoHawk Holdings which he describes as a partnership between the CEFC China Energy conglomerate and two Biden family members, Jim and Hunter Biden.
Bobulinski claimed during the interview that Joe Biden has direct involvement with receiving millions of dollars from the Chinese. He told Carlson that he raised concerns about Joe Biden’s connection to the 2017 China deal with Jim Biden:
“I remember looking at Jim Biden in saying how are you guys getting away with this? Like, aren’t you concerned? And he looked at me and he laughed a little bit and said. ‘plausible deniability.’”
Vice President Joe Biden denied taking money from foreign actors during the October 22nd presidential debate:
“Nothing was unethical… “I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life,” Biden said.
Bobulinski stated he was shocked to hear Joe Biden say he was not involved in the China deals. He attended the presidential debate and said he almost got up and walked out. Bobulinski claimed he was introduced to Joe Biden by his sons on May 2, 2017:
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/biden-whistleblower-hires-former-navy-seals-for-security/
Let’s see, Fox News red flag. Tucker Carlson red flag. Wonder how much he was paid for this “interview” Again this is all speculation and should be treated as such. This interview was conducted back in October. . You forgot the word allegedly. We have this little thing in US law. Innocent until proven guilty. When proven in a court of law get back to me. And no one of your YouTube videos doesn’t count..
No problem, we’ll see what the next administration has to say.
Why didn’t any debunkers invite him on to explain?? Censorship maybe?
Let’s see, Al Jazeera, red flag…
Sighs….your digging yourself deeper into the hole. Let me know if you see any white rabbits down there.
Wrong again. I even made it real easy for you to save face.
I provided a link for you to the actual CDC study, and it’s limitations, and spelled out for you exactly how the ‘Al Jazeera’ link you referenced, got it all wrong, too. I even posted screenshots of the appropriate pertinent text, to make it extra, extra, easy for you to realize where you zigged , is where you should’ve zagged.
Once you figure it out, maybe save me a little time, and relay it to Kym, since you wasted so much of my time with your ‘Al Jazeera’ nonsense.
Thanks in advance.
It will require integrity, just so you know.
You dug yourself in, now let’s see if you can dig your way out…
Good luck.
Maybe if you get stuck, Kym can help dig you out, since she helped to dig you in.
Bottom line…
I said 90%-CDC says 90%
You want to argue about how Al Jazeera
worded it, take it up with Ms Kemp. See how far you get with that.
Read my lips…
beetlejuice 90%-CDC 90%…
beetlejuice 67%
Time to let it go.
From the CDC… VE was significantly lower among patients who received their second mRNA COVID-19 vaccine dose ≥180 days before the medical encounters compared with those vaccinated more recently. VE increased following a third dose and was highly effective during both the Delta- and Omicron-predominant periods at preventing COVID-19–associated ED and UC encounters (94% and 82%, respectively) and preventing COVID-19–associated hospitalizations (94% and 90%, respectively).
So the booster worked against Delta would be the more appropriate conclusion.
Against Omicron?
That would be a total stretch.
🕯🌳He won’t he’s to obsess with it kind of like two other commenters. 🖖🖖
And yes I did provide a CDC link to the study Guest. You just missed it. So wrong again.
Dream on.
Open your eyes, and see the light.
Of the 87,904 hospitalizations in that 132 day study, how many do you think occurred during the Omicron predominant period?
Let me guess, you have no idea, do you?
Wasn’t it you that said something about, “too small a sample size”?
Try only 1.794% on for size, and see how that fits your “too small a sample size”, comparison.
That’s right, only 1,577 hospitalizations, out of the studied 87,904, occurred during the Omicron predominant period.
98.206%, or 86,327 out of 87,904 hospitalizations studied, must have occurred during the Delta predominant period, beetlejuice.
That’s 54.74 times as many Delta associated hospitalizations as Omicron associated hospitalizations.
Are you still going to conclude that what the study showed was about Omicron? It would be 54.74 times more appropriate if you had made you assertion about Delta.
Your assertion is 54.74 times less appropriate.
Better stick with just saying it was about Covid19, or at least just mention the 94% booster efficacy against hospitalization shown against simply Delta.
That would have about 55 times the credibility.
Welcome to the light.
I suggest sunglasses if it bothers you too much.
Maybe you should have actually read the actual CDC study, before just naively agreeing with someone else’s misinterpretation.
🕯🌳How can you be so obsessive and dog one individual on a thread?🖖🖖
Who is dogging who?
I make my observations, and they are disputed, and then I defend them, and scrutinize the neverending rebuttals to my comments.
That makes me the dog?
I’m just not rolling over onto my back, that’s all, Willie Bray.
Why do you see it as me doing the dogging?
He doesn’t like being proven wrong. I proved him wrong 3 times already, so he will keep on trying to prove me wrong on something .
You left out this part
The CDC
In a multistate analysis of 222,772 ED and UC encounters and 87,904 hospitalizations among adults with COVID-19–like illness during August 26, 2021–January 5, 2022
“Hint: you are talking about 2 different things”
And your making the same mistake again, again.
How many of those 222,772 ED and UC encounters do you think were associated with the Omicron predominant period?
You left this part out.
Only 18,027.
About 8%. Still too small of a sample size, and totally irrelevant to the hospitalization discussion.
You must like being proven wrong.
The part you must not like, is admitting it, when you clearly are.
The issue left the barn along time ago. Move on
I hope you learned something.
Read this
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/01/new-data-show-booster-doses-protect-against-omicron
🕯🌳And who was in the White House in 2018? It wasn’t Biden. 🖖🖖
You think Hunter was paid for his expertise or for his connections?
🕯🌳Who cares? Why does he live in your head?🖖🖖
“Can you prove the bribes?”
Got it, you ask questions you don’t care about and don’t want an answer to.
Like I said…
“It’s amazing the things the dems don’t want to know.”
Don’t worry about it Willie their claims were debunked ages ago. It’s just right wing propaganda
“Debunked” by leftist “fact checkers”?
By the truth yes.
Yep, debunked by the left MSM as usual.
When does the right get to investigate without censors deleting it?
When they quit spreading misinformation I guess.
MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) is a chemical in animals, humans, and many plants. People use it most often to try to treat arthritis, what does the “left have to do with that?
🕯🌳I know I find funny how many people live in there heads rent free and there’s a term for it but by Kyms rules it would be like calling them a name. 🖖🖖
It’s an old right wing propaganda trick. They keep feeding in misinformation in hopes that people will think it’s the truth. Fascists used it in Mussolini’s Italy. Goebbles in Nazi Germany. Right wing news and websites in modern times. It’s a sickness that will spread if we let it
And beetlejuice is using it now.
I thought better of you than that, Now I see no blow is too low.
Sad!
And twice in one day
Knowingly telling lies is so unbecoming.
Sighs…I have no need to defend myself…
You might feel no need to defend yourself, but…
You need to fact check your 90%
statement. Your referenced link doesn’t corroborate it…
In fact, it contradicts it…
Did you even read it?
Might be a good idea.
Did you say something about, “They keep feeding in misinformation in hopes that people will think it’s the truth”?
Sounds about right.
Let’s not let that sickness spread.
You misread the article..It’s all explained there. I am not going to bother explaining it to you.
Nope, it’s clear as a bell, plain to see, ” 10 states, first study”, “Protections dropped from 94% during the Delta wave, to 82% during Omicron”.
How do you, or anyone else, come up with 90%?
You aren’t going to bother explaining it, because you can’t.
(You could always just cut and paste the pertinent text)
I could walk you through posting a screenshot of it, that’s super easy, if you don’t know how…
Here is a hint. They are talking about 2 different things. Read it again. You will figure it out eventually
Yeah, I figured that out,
now see if you can figure out why that 90% statement from ‘Al Jazeera’ is a total lie.
Read limitation # 6 in the actual CDC study, like I did, and you might have a chance, and check out the screenshot I posted showing that the study did not confirm Omicron infections at all, the study just roughly coincided with the outbreak.
I provided you with a CDC link.
Not some wonky ass one.
You are clearly in error, but you likely won’t admit it.
I admitted my error.
Now, can you?
Try cutting and pasting it.
You read the wrong article.
You got misled, with misinformation.
Try reading it straight from the CDC, that way, nothing will be lost in translation, due to ‘Al Jazeera’s “tilt”.
I suspect you know better than that, Hunter was influence peddling
Have covid now. Just tired and fever of 99 (can you even call that a fever).No Vax. Wish I got is sooner so I could be done already.
Thought I might have gotten exposed a week ago, so far, no symptoms.
Let us know how long it takes to get those tests, please.
🤞
I sure will, ☕.
I may have been a little overconfident with the USPS.
( They didn’t show up yet, like I thought that they might have…)
I didn’t read the fine print, apparently.
I’m curious if there’s fine print that comes with the tests…:)
There might be, in order to really understand the results, kind of like a CDC study…
🕯🌳I send my prayers to you. 🕊🕊
Robert Kennedy Jr. gave a historic speech today. For freedom, vaxxed or unvaxxed, your choice is your right given to you by being an American. Be careful who you listen to, do the research, and decide for yourself.
The time of day you take a COVID test matters, according to a study
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2022/01/the-time-of-day-you-take-a-covid-test-matters-according-to-a-study.html
On Saturday, Eureka set a temperature record hitting 71 degrees. The previous heat record for Jan. 22 was set in 1968. And we are around 4 inches below normal rainfall.
Biden Weighs Deploying Thousands of Troops to Eastern Europe and Baltics The president is also considering deploying warships and aircraft to NATO allies, in what would be a major shift from its restrained stance on Ukraine.
And the deployment of thousands of additional American troops to NATO’s eastern flank, which includes Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, Biden administration officials said, is exactly the scenario that Mr. Putin has wanted to avoid, as he has seen the western military alliance creep closer and closer to Russia’s own border.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/23/us/politics/biden-troops-nato-ukraine.html
Did you vote for this, leave our people die in Afghanistan and put troops in Ukraine? 8.5k on high alert according to the pentagon.
It’s a good thing Biden pushed Germany into Russian hands with North stream 2 energy f-up. (not)
Let’s go Brandon.
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‘Fuck the EU’: US diplomat Victoria Nuland’s phonecall leaked
The assistant US secretary of state, Victoria Nuland, has apologised after her phone conversation about the political crisis in Ukraine was leaked on the internet. The call between Nuland and a US ambassador focused on the future of the country if it gains a new government. Nuland declined to comment on ‘private diplomatic conversations’
Source: ITN
Fri 7 Feb 2014 12.31 EST First published on Fri 7 Feb 2014 12.31 EST
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phonecall-leaked-video
So where is she now?
As Jim W. Dean would put it, you can’t make this stuff up. Victoria Nuland, the hawkish and Neocon woman who brazenly declared “Fuck the EU,” is now Secretary of State for Political Affairs. Secretary Antony Blinken tweeted:
“Thrilled that Victoria Nuland was confirmed as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. Her deep experience across the board will be so important to me and the Department as we move forward with a foreign policy that delivers for the American people.”
What, then, is Nuland’s “deep experience” about? Well, virtually everyone knows what Victoria Nuland did in Ukraine by now. If you have been watching soap opera and other TV programs which really waste your precious time and energy, then you have been left behind. Nuland was involved in creating political chaos in Ukraine. Nuland is the Jewish Neocon who once bragged about spending over five billion dollars destabilizing Ukraine and bringing chaos in the country, all in the name of “democracy” and “freedom.”[1]
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/05/01/victoria-nuland-again-the-one-who-said-fuck-the-eu-and-who-supported-neo-nazis/
Alexander Vindman, a Ukrainian immigrant best known for his award-winning role as the star witness in the first Trump impeachment trial, told NBC’s “Morning Joe” on Wednesday that it is probably too late to avoid war with Russia in Ukraine.
“These things are already moving,” he said. “It’s almost certain that this is going to occur, and now is the time to take those last-minute steps.”
“This is the time” to send weapons to Ukraine, Vindman said. “Doing more now is less escalatory than options we have to execute in the middle of February after this unfolds, after Russian blood starts to flow… on Ukrainian soil.”
Vindman serves as a colonel in the United States military, though he was asked by Ukraine to serve as minister of defense.
“Doing more now potentially prevents this,” he said. “Now, it’s almost certain this is going to occur, and now is the time to take those last-minute steps, position troops, again, to defend European allies, to send the message that Russia’s precipitating this.”
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/01/19/alexander_vindman_were_about_to_have_the_largest_war_in_europe_since_world_war_two_us_needs_to_send_weapons_to_ukraine_before_it_starts.html
Covid’s dying so,….The warmongers are on the loose.
China sends 39 warplanes toward Taiwan, largest in new yearChina has flown 39 warplanes toward Taiwan in its largest such sortie of the new year, amid tensions over the island’s future
By HUIZHONG WU Associated Press
January 24, 2022,
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-sends-39-warplanes-taiwan-largest-year-82432872
“Will it ultimately be Hunter’s lucrative and shady AF business dealings in Ukraine that gets us into a war with Russia?” Mr DonaldTrump jr tweeted on Monday.
Yep it’s all Hunters fault
And his Daddy’s
Daddy has talked endlessly about Beau, Nada about Hunter, you would think they had never met.
“Hunter is my heart‚” Biden said, referring to his son, 49. “And Hunter has been through some tough times, but he’s fighting. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/09/joe-biden-praises-son-struggling-with-addiction-mental-health-hunter-is-my-heart/
I know I’ve made some questionable choices in my life, but I can always remember; I have never smoked parmesan cheese from the carpet because I thought it was a crack rock. 😆🤣😂