Letter Writer and Flight Instructor Incensed at Rent Increase for Murray Field Business

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Murray Field [All photos provided by Rose Hanan]

Murray Field [All photos provided by Rose Hanan]

Humboldt County Board of Supervisors; Rex Bohn, Michelle Bushnell, Mike Wilson, Virginia Bass, Steve Madrone, Humboldt County Director of Aviation Cody Roggatz,

Humboldt County has decided to raise the rent on Northern Air Flight line building and hanger from $1,536.15 a month to $10,088.11 a month. (This is not a typo). Effective March 1, 2022. As a result, I have been informed that the Flight Line at Northern Air at Murray Field in Eureka, will be closed permanently effective March 1, 2022. I cannot help but believe that you are unaware of the significant negative impact that this will have on our community, and especially the aviation community in this area. Your rash action means there will be:

-No airplanes to rent in Humboldt County.

-No airplanes to rent to take flight lessons in Humboldt County.

-No lobby for Flight Instruction Ground lessons to be held.

-No toilet or washroom facilities other than a portable outhouse. Not even a place to wash your hands.

-No Fuel available for aircraft at Murray Field forcing pilots to fly somewhere else to get it.

-No personnel to take radio calls and give airport advisory regarding; weather conditions, wind fog visibility and runway favored.

-No personnel to remove obstructions on the runway or run the deer off the runway.

-No personnel to assist pilots who may request help via radio.

-No personnel to confirm that a plane has or has not landed when the FAA needs to know if a pilot is safe.

-No personnel to get a radio check from before takeoff.

-No pilots lounge available for people waiting for incoming aircraft or people waiting for an angel flight to get flown out of the area for medical treatment.

-No pilots lounge for pilots to get a snack, a bottle of water or pilot supplies.

-No warm place to sit out of the wind, rain or cold.

-No personnel to keep non pilots and non-aviation-oriented vehicles off the ramps and runway.

-No security whatsoever.

-No personnel to answer questions from the public regarding how to get training and where to start.

-No place in Humboldt County for our youth to explore aviation as a possible career, and start that training.

 

This outrageous rent increase is forcing Northern Air to close the doors on the flight line and discontinue the services that we have come to expect. This action has a direct impact on aviation safety in our community. It has been bad enough that the building is dilapidated and the county refuses to fix anything-leaving that burden to the tenants. The carpet is well over 40 years old and the structure is rusting out and falling apart, the roof has leaks and the paint is peeling. The structure on the west hanger door is rusted out and now held up with a very long 2 by 4. There has basically been no maintenance even when requested.

Northern Air was able to negotiate a reasonable increase in rent for the maintenance side of Northern Air. As a pilot and flight Instructor “Thank Goodness” Humboldt County will still have one certified aircraft mechanic!

I have been a FAA certified flight Instructor in Humboldt County for over 30 years. I have told my students they will need to leave Humboldt County to continue their flight lessons because there will no longer be an airplane to rent available. I have watched Humboldt County airports deteriorate over the last 30 plus years from lack of maintenance. The county only appears to be interested in Arcata airport and the commercial airlines. The county neglects the other five airports that serve General Aviation, air ambulance, Cal Fire, Courier flights from Sacramento that bring you your mail and packages, as well as angel flights and many other flights coming into Humboldt County.

It is with great sadness that I see another opportunity for the youth in our county disappearing. Most aviation flying careers begin with a private pilot’s license. I know many pilots who began their training at Northern Air and now work locally with air ambulance and Cal Fire as pilots. We have had many students go into careers with the commercial airlines, and that have successfully entered the military to become military aviators. I also know several pilots who became Instructors or bush pilots.

The loss of the flight line at Northern Air at Murray Field is the result of a county government that is financially ignorant. The county appears to have no vision for the future or the value of our local airports…. Especially to the private pilot. Most counties promote tourism thru their small General Aviation airports providing a pilot’s lounge, services, and a restaurant; providing transportation to their tourist attractions and businesses. Not ONE airport of the six in Humboldt County provides these services for General Aviation or promoting tourism. While other counties value and support their general aviation facilities, there seems to be a total lack of support for General Aviation by Humboldt County. The very nature of our location-isolated in so many other ways, would make this seem irresponsible. Airports are highly valued in other counties! What is wrong with Humboldt County?

I believe the public has a right to understand what is happening to this long-established business that is a vital service and asset. The continuing neglect of General Aviation in Humboldt County and our smaller airports is a huge loss to Humboldt County. I ask that the destruction of a vital business be reconsidered.

Diligently yours

Rose Hanan

FAA Certified Flight Instructor.

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Just Saying
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Just Saying
2 years ago

Outstanding letter! I’m so glad she called out the county on its neglect of Murray Field, but especially the loss of Northern Air. I know several people who learned to fly via Northern Air. This is another blow to the county. I don’t know of one business owner who can withstand a 660% increase in rent. The county looks like a slumlord.

Sickandtiredofthis
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Sickandtiredofthis
2 years ago
Reply to  Just Saying

Humboldt County at its finest. Slumlords price gouging tenants during a pandemic. Way to go. Maybe they have plans to rent it to another out of state cannabis farmer…unbelievable!

Shannon
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Shannon
2 years ago

That won’t happen it has to be aviation related

Derek Watts
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Derek Watts
2 years ago

Good lord Roggatz and company this is so over the top absurd it’s hard to believe it’s true. Who do you think you are pulling something like this? I’m glad Rose Hanan brought this to attention. I’ll certainly be calling my supervisor about this egregious move, as well as encouraging others to do the same. Shame!

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 years ago

Viable industries are what support the County budget.

We chased off the pulp mill, one of the cleanest pulp mills in the world, because it wasn’t good enough. We refused wind farm electrical generation. We let the Humboldt Bay wither. We fight the lumber industry into partial oblivion. We shut down the railroad into Humboldt to make into a recreational trail…. I could go on to fill this page as to why Humboldt can’t afford to even buy paint, let alone fix a building or an airport.

We force ourselves into a mono-industrial position with the cannabis industry, then we shot ourselves in the foot by by regulating them to death.

Yes, we live in a beautiful place. How does starving to death feel? The position that we find ourselves in was predictable.

Shaka
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Shaka
2 years ago

Very Sad How Humboldt Has Changed Over The Years.

c u 2morrowD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Shaka

an morphed into something else

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 years ago

“Viable industries are what support the County budget.”

Great point, social projects require tax $, killing industry indirectly kills government social projects and destroys jobs which puts more people on the wrong path.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
2 years ago

The entire country has this problem. It isn’t better for the world if we push our manufacturing away to countries which have less stringent pollution and resource extraction regulations. It just doesn’t help anyone or anything.

People – your new i-phones are responsible for a massively toxic lake in China. Etc.

But the politicians pushing our jobs away and pushing us into third world status are ever eager to maintain their own standards of living at our expense.

well . . .
Guest
well . . .
2 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

You are making a great point.Of course the way to respond is not to posion and destoy our own environment. In fact what we need to do is place massive tarrifs on goods imported from nations with evil labor and environmental practices. That way other nations will not be able to produce goods at a fraction of the cost of domestic goods.

No product produced under labor or enviormental laws that are substandard to our own should enter our nation with out a tariff.

Lost Croat Outburst
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Lost Croat Outburst
2 years ago

I thought the pulp mills closed due to market collapse rather than the government. Logging burned itself out due to poor planning and over harvesting. Surely a few people remember the MAXXAM-Hurwitz takeover of PL and subsequent liquidation logging, raid of the employee pension fund, “whoever has the gold rules”, and horrible death of decent men in the de-barker which was quickly covered up but well-know by the former PIO of PL who still knows what happened, but she may be afraid to speak or perhaps legally constrained. Texas is the nexus. Maybe Ernie knows something. Learn with Ern’. The Eel River canyon is extremely unstable for a railroad as almost everyone increasingly realizes. BTW, Eel River was a great salmon stream, but may have been one of the finest steelhead rivers in North America, until it was turned into a logging flume long before weed showed up.

The huge fee increase needs explanation. I don’t fly, but others do, so I try to empathize. Very good letter, covers the bases. As Ernie and others have said, diversified forms of commerce and travel are good for society. Yes, California strangled its cannabis industry with onerous regs and endless fees. Or onerous fees and endless regs. The debate rages.

geezer ingvardD
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geezer ingvard
2 years ago

I was with my co-workers / buddies on swing shift when in the theater we heard the words  “whoever has the gold rules”, what a prick, one of my co workers said “if we rush him now we could kill him now” most of us wanted to but we did not want to murder that fellow human. Our God will take out the trash, and deposit in the proper pit.

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 years ago

Lost Croat Outburst,
I’m glad the you replied. You are the exact person that I would like to have a conversation with.

The pulp market didn’t collapse, they were regulated out of business. We forced them to produce a clean product. We didn’t stop using toilet paper though, we now get it from China, and they use chlorine bleaching and pump the waste into the ocean. Why should we allow that?

Your next example is logging. I agree Maxxam Corp overcut, raped the forest and ruined logging for at least a generation. Hurwitz should have gone to jail over the Savings and Loan Scandal. Why did we allow that? There is nothing more productive that growing a tree. Trees grow on clean dirt, fresh air, clean water and sunshine. When cut, they sequester carbon and build houses. It CAN be done right, we should insist on it. Not over-cut, but at a sustained-yield rate.

The Eel river Canyon is not completely unstable, the unstable parts are still sliding into the river. The railroad did not start or stop that. The rail could be placed like they did at Frog Woman Rock. They viaducted past them and the slides now go right past the road and into the river like Mother Nature likes to do. Humboldt Bay is under-utilized. A rail could ship American products out.

The 1964 flood filled the river with gravel. The gravel is premium hard rock. It could be shipped out by rail. The river would return to a deep water river with healthy clean spawning riffles. The Sacramento river pike didn’t more harm to the salmon that anything else.

I mean no disrespect to “Lost Croat Outburst” We need people to be concerned and we need to do things right. When we ruin our health by eating wrong we don’t stop eating completely, we modify and eat right. We need to do that with Humboldt industry… Do it right!

They call me a dreamer but I’m beginning to think that I’m the only one.

well . . .
Guest
well . . .
2 years ago

“We forced them to produce a clean product. We didn’t stop using toilet paper though, we now get it from China, and they use chlorine bleaching and pump the waste into the ocean. Why should we allow that?”

We should not allow that! Sounds like bleached toilet paper should be illegal to import.

A human generation is not nearly long enough for a forest to recover. Sure even-aged tree farms can recover but they offer no ecological function. It was decades of over-harvest and land conversion that got us here, not just Maxxam. The idea of what is sustainable given that only around 3% of old growth remains is highly debatable.

No one is claiming the railroad cause the Eel river canyon to become unstable. Perhaps if the environmental cost of burning gasoline were factored into the cost at the pump, rails would rule over semi-trucks once again, as they are inherently more efficient at moving goods. Then we could have smaller delivery trucks driving around town.

The gravel that entered our rivers, due to logging, certainly has economic value. As we remove the gravel in order to restore the rivers, we should look to sell it. Of course the removal would have to be done in an intelligent manner to avoid further environmental impact.

Mr. BearD
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Mr. Bear
2 years ago
Reply to  well . . .

“We forced them to produce a clean product. We didn’t stop using toilet paper though, we now get it from China, and they use chlorine bleaching and pump the waste into the ocean”

I’m usually on board with Ernie but this isn’t close to true. Almost all TP we use is made in North America

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Bear

You are right, ” Even so, the United States is still the world’s largest importer of toilet tissue, accounting for 9.4 percent of global imports, according to MIT Media Lab’s Observatory of Economic Complexity (OEC). China, meanwhile is the world’s largest exporter.

https://www.globaltrademag.com/toilet-paper-a-uniquely-american-obsession/#:~:text=Clearwater%20Paper%20Corporation%2C%20which%20reportedly%20operates%20one%20of,for%20the%20grocery%20chain%20Kroger%20and%20for%20Costco.

well . . .
Guest
well . . .
2 years ago

Industries that have serious detrimental impact on the environment are not viable.

What does “one of the cleanest pulp mills in the world” mean exactly? Is that like one of the best smelling pieces of shit?

The lumber companies seem to own damn near everything around here. The only thing driven to oblivion is the old growth.

I strongly support railroads and wish we had a publically owned national rail system. Unfortuantly maintaing the rail through the Eel river Canyon was an extremely difficult task. Regulation did not kill the rail road.

It was lack of regulation that casued the decline of the timber industry, they over harvested for decades. Now we must preserve what little we have left.

Mariahgirl
Guest
2 years ago

What are they going to do next? Maybe cease Fedex service or stop Angel flights or air ambulance services after all who needs all of this!

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mariahgirl

regional airport

Ernie Branscomb
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Ernie Branscomb
2 years ago

As a side note: During the aftermath of the 1964 flood the Garberville airport was our only lifeline to the rest of the world. We were totally isolated in this little crack in the mountain called the South Fork of the Eel River. All of our food, transportation and medicine etc. came in through the airport. It was very busy. People may have died without it.

c u 2morrowD
Member
2 years ago

I’m thinkin’ there are future plans for that site.

Steve Koch
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Steve Koch
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

Yeah, we probably haven’t heard the whole story yet.

Tim
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Tim
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

I hope they aren’t planning anything too long term, that site will flood in the not too distant future with projected sea level rise. I’d be surprised if they could get any kind of development approved.

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Tim

I don’t think that the state will let the highway go under. Sea wall or raise the road surface elevation.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

But not the runways.

Lost Croat Outburst
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Lost Croat Outburst
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

Yeah, they could build an elevated road over the water, but it would require a massive dike system to keep all that acreage dry and we already know that dikes fail. Maybe the county figures that’s it’s all going to be wetland anyway, but why the exorbitant fee increase? Why not the truth? Oh, sorry, lost my head.

D-rockD
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D-rock
2 years ago

Shame! Who do you think you are Roggatz and company? How many local pilots got involved in searching for Hunter Lewis these last weeks as just one example of why it’s worth it to support GA locally? There is a public good involved with local general aviation, and as with all public good services run by local governments, they should not be run with profit in mind. I’ll be calling my supervisor, as well as AOPA, and letting them know this move is out of hand. Gross…

Arctostaphylos
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Arctostaphylos
2 years ago

The General Aviation hangers at Murray Field are also in a sad state of disrepair and also had their rents raised this year, with no capital improvements.

The responsibility for this neglect and shortsightedness lies with our current Board of Supervisors and the Airport Director. Chasing away folks with the disposable income to own/maintain small aircraft is no way to build the economy!

And, as others have stated, Northern Air provides career training opportunities and Murray Field serves important public safety and community resilience functions.

Another disappointing stunt from Humboldt County. Without a lot more explanation, this seems like greedy mismanagement of public assets. Thank you to the letter writer for bringing up this important topic!

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Arctostaphylos
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Arctostaphylos
2 years ago
Reply to  Arctostaphylos

Corruption and nepotism being par for the course here, I can’t help but wonder whose friend, family member, or campaign donor will move their business into that space once Northern Air is forced to vacate.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
2 years ago
Reply to  Arctostaphylos

Is the commercial airport looking to increase private pilot customers and using a carrot and stick on the BOS? This is designed to shut it down. For what?

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Arctostaphylos

It certainly would be good to have more information. Obviously the county has not been maintaining the facilities for some time. There must have been some reason to increase rents by so much. So what does the county say it is?

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Different kind of eviction.

Just Jack the rent 10 times.

It’s easier than eviction and Mo more effective.

More affordable than eviction, too.

Xebeche
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Xebeche
2 years ago

That county government is shortsighted, ignorant and incompetent (again, in yet another arena) comes as no surprise.

Cetan Bluesky
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Cetan Bluesky
2 years ago

Rose I’m with you on whatever you plan to do next. You have my support completely. I won’t go into me own gripes about the county and it’s slip shod attitude about commercial and other aero but I do hold up a fat finger to the county when it comes to management of the OUR local airfields and airports for the last thirty years. Closing the airports to sell the land for real estate development and other has been on the County’s back page agenda for decades. It’s the only thing that explains this. Of course done behind every bodies back to hold down any legal recourse and other form of protest. Yes Rose you have my support!!!!!!

Arctostaphylos
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Arctostaphylos
2 years ago
Reply to  Cetan Bluesky

That’s so sad. Losing airports means losing safe places for pilots to land when weather comes in or when equipment starts to malfunction. Given our forested terrain, these opportunities are precious!

It also means cutting communities off from lifesaving medical flights during emergencies and it makes firefighting that much more difficult.

Not to sound dramatic, but if there really is an agenda to close airports, that’s incredibly reckless and shortsighted. Lives are at stake!

brian
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brian
2 years ago

Shut down businesses, destroy the economy, poison the children with un-needed jabs… Whatever it takes to implement the unwanted Green New Deal. That’s what this is all about : making the rich richer. Thanks to idiots like rex bohn and mike wilson… people who have never worked a day in their life. Leeches – sucking our lifeblood away to enrich themselves. Disgusting & pathetic.

Sunny
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Sunny
2 years ago

This is a very sad turn of events for Murray field and the county of Humboldt.
As a private pilot building hours for career in aviation, I have used Murray field many times for an IFR training environment. For 10 years I have been based in Mendocino and have slowly watched Murray field deteriorate. Along with many of our other airports on the north coast.
I have also had wheels on the pavement at the Hoopa airport. Flying in a medical coordinator for the clinic located there. I was amazed at how many people had never seen an aircraft land there. Many people came to the runway with their children to see the plane and ask, “ is the airplane going to take off again?”
I agree, this is another example of opportunities being taken away from the next generation of aviators. At the same time limiting the transportation options for people who need immediate or even routine medical treatment that is not available in Humboldt.
Please re-think this decision for all of our futures.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Great letter, very detailed about the multiple benefits to the county by keeping this airport open. It seems extremely short sighted, to lose all of this over a slumlord tactic. County Board, please rethink this move.

willow creeker
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I would prefer a little more information about the ‘other side’ of the story. There is always another side. I definitely agree with Ernie, we need more diversity in our economy. We need good basic infrastructure like small airports. Not just for hobbyists but for emergencies.

Christine
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Christine
2 years ago

What role does the FAA play in this and what do they have to say about this matter? It seems to me that they would need to be involved in some form or another. More questions that need to be answered by the county and the FAA. Northern Air is an asset to Humboldt County and needs to remain open.

Sunny
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Sunny
2 years ago
Reply to  Christine

I am not sure the role of the FAA in the closing of an airport for fiscal reasons however, Ukiah airport was recently (a couple of years ago) able to get a grant from the FAA to repave the runway. Which resulted in a serious reduction of funds required to be paid by the county for the service.
In that instance, in order to secure “grant funds” the airport management had to be on the field to log the amount of traffic landing, type of aircraft, services used, etc…
Meaning, affectionately, there needs to be “boots on the ground” for the FAA to be involved.

Rose
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Rose
2 years ago
Reply to  Christine

The Northern Air Fixed Base Operator business is what is closing. The airport will remain open just with no services…..The maintenance side will still remain open.

Two CentsD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Rose

Including NO FUEL available at Murray Field.

c u 2morrowD
Member
2 years ago

geez, we have six airports ? unbelievable !

Elyse
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Elyse
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

1. Murray Field, 2. Arcata in McK, 3. Rohnerville, 4. Dinsmore, 5. Kneeland, 6. Garberville

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Elyse

You forgot Shelter Cove.

Unless that is just considered an airstrip.

Rose Hanan
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Rose Hanan
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Shelter Cove was once a humboldt county airport but is now owned by the Shelter Cove Resort improvement district. They have several restaurants no fuel.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Samoa Dragstrip?

Bug on a Windshield
Guest
Bug on a Windshield
2 years ago

I saw on a map once an airstrip on the beach roughly straight out from Kings Peak.

Maybe that one’s for the “treetop flyers”?

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Rose Hanan
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Rose Hanan
2 years ago

Samoa airport is owned by the city of Eureka.

Lost Croat Outburst
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Lost Croat Outburst
2 years ago
Reply to  Elyse

Does the airstrip at Shelter Cove count?

Rose Hanan
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Rose Hanan
2 years ago

Owned by the Shelter Cove improvement district

scrumphousecider
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scrumphousecider
2 years ago

Completely unacceptable Humboldt County! From a disaster management perspective these small regional airports can be an absolute lifeline to the outside world. Rohnerville is a prime example (one of several) if you look back to the 64′ floods. Very shortsighted on so many levels. I hope this gets the proper attention to at least warrant a thorough vetting of the CBA that would warrant such action. Public discourse followed by hard work and action folks, hopefully that still works in the Redwood Empire.

Sandy Beaches
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Sandy Beaches
2 years ago

How is this decision made?
How many people are involved in making this decision?
What exactly is the justification?

Lynn H
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Lynn H
2 years ago

Kind of looks like an airport in Kazakhstan.

What are they thinking?

Lost Croat Outburst
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Lost Croat Outburst
2 years ago
Reply to  Lynn H

They want to upgrade to Kurdistan.

NeeSee
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NeeSee
2 years ago

Well that’s where at least one of them has their money….

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
2 years ago

Where is fed ex going to land safely now? What in the world is the county doing with the increased sales tax revenue. Why do they cater to the pot industry and transients but forget things as important as Murray field and our roads. Seems like everything it does is wrong. Like wanting our district to be in with sonoma and marin, to insure we have no power over the water in the Eel river that the fish resources so desperately
need. The sheer stupidity continues on. A six fold plus increase in rent. That’s unconscionable.

Hugh ManateeD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

FedEx lands at ACV already The UPS planes land at Murray and that will not change. Yeah, it is nice to be able to talk to the Unicom operator there and get weather reports from an experienced person on the ground, but it isn’t necessary. Some of those planes get there early before the FBO opens anyway and some leave after they close.

I do agree that the general maintenance at Murray Field has been horrible though. I’ve watched it deteriorate over the years. One runway was devoured by weeds and eventually closed. The last remaining runway has weeds growing up through the cracks and the county does nothing. The VASI (a lighting system to help guide planes in) on the runway with all the instrument approaches was damaged many years ago and never replaced. Rumor is the County got the money for repairs but spent it on something else.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
2 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

I have seen FedEx at Murray Field as recently as two months ago. Don’t get north of the Eureka slough often, so, maybe they’re still landing there.

Hugh ManateeD
Member
2 years ago

That was probably UPS.
They fly the same planes, Cessna Caravans.
Although FedEx does occasionally still land at Murray if the weather is below minimums at ACV and it happens to be clear at Murray. That doesn’t happen often though.

Bug on a Windshield
Guest
Bug on a Windshield
2 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

I suspect it was probably the latter, unless UPS was sportin’ the FedEx logo.

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Two CentsD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

In those conditions, Murray is a much better option for FedEx, UPS, and USPS than turning around going back to SFO or SMF… especially if the packages being delivered are vital for local hospitals and other businesses. KEEP NORTHERN AIR OPEN!

John
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John
2 years ago

Might want to fact check this Northern Air is terrible. They don’t rent planes to licensed pilots only for some basic instruction. Might be good to get a new FBO in humboldt who cares.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  John

That information is actually false. Northern Air did indeed rent planes out to licensed pilots for short flights after being checked out by a CFI for around the area use. Since they only have a few planes they were mostly used for students which is totally understandable since it is a flight school not a plane rental facility. Which is more then a lot of other places offer. Also it’s not basic instruction you could be come a full fledged private pilot through Northern Airs school. Please fact check your information next time before criticizing something you have no clue about.

John
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John
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I did, have been in a few times to see about renting a plane answer is always no. They only do basic private training at nearly twice the rates offered at other FBOs in the state. Sometimes change is good. Also they don’t stock pilot supplies like the FAR/AIM and most current charts seem to be focused on trinkets. I think the county could consider giving a free hanger up to a non profit flight club. Humboldt needs a FBO or club that lets people who can’t afford their own plane a place to rent on occasion and keep flying alive.

Hugh ManateeD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  John

Current charts!?!
When is the last time you flew?
Nobody sells (or uses) paper charts anymore.
I haven’t seen charts for sale at an FBO in years. You can still get them online, but we all use ForeFlight now.

I just called Northern Air and asked what their rate was for instruction.
$155 an hour for the plane and $55 an hour for instruction. That is much cheaper than most places, certainly places in California. John, why don’t you post a link to even one flight school who charges 1/2 of those rates. I’ll wait🤣

Hugh ManateeD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  John

So they are $176 an hour dual for a 172 and Northern Air is $210 an hour dual, so approximately 20% more expensive. What isn’t 20% more expensive in Humboldt? You think avgas might me a little more expensive in Humboldt than Sacramento? Also your Cal Aggie school requires monthly dues and is a non-profit. Still waiting for those half-price rates…

John
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John
2 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

It has been 3 months, you can’t rent a plane at northern air unless you are getting instruction. when I am out of Humboldt I sometimes rent. Online ordering is fine when that’s the only option

Cetan Bluesky
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Cetan Bluesky
2 years ago

Update: I sent an email to Michelle Bushnell this afternoon. She has replied indicating that she will speak with Dept. Of Aviation about this on going situation at Murray Airport. I cannot wait to hear their reasoning!

Sandy Beaches
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Sandy Beaches
2 years ago

Transparentcalifornia web site lists County of Humboldt head of Aviation Cody Goggatz 2019 salary as $192813. That’s a lot of money to watch an airfield rust and rot away.

Margo Gordon
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Margo Gordon
2 years ago

Dayton Murray would be absolutely appalled.

seldom seen
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seldom seen
2 years ago
Reply to  Margo Gordon

Ahhh, the good ol’ days of the flat track!

5150
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5150
2 years ago
Reply to  seldom seen

Flat trakin’ to 4 story ‘low income’ living structures. Maybe if enough pocket $$ is stuffed into the Coastal Commission’s pockets, they could put a stop to that kind of structuring………….oh wait a minute….Samoa already has the same building as Eureka and Arcata has.

well . . .
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well . . .
2 years ago

Was there another option?

Really?
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Really?
2 years ago

Perhaps The County could use some of the funds from the Measure S taxes to update and repair the airport? 500 legal farms @ 10k per year… and that’s a conservative estimate, being as that amount is for a 10k sq ft farm. 5 million my friends! What improvements have y’all seen in Humboldt?

Shannon
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Shannon
2 years ago

Everyone complaining should look at the article about the lawsuit being dismissed against the county because they brought the rent on the property up to fair market value as required by FFA.

Two CentsD
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2 years ago

Nothing whatsoever to do with “weed”… and
Everything to do with misappropriation of funds at our crooked and negligent County government.