2 Hospitalizations, 23 New Cases Reported

Covid-19 vaccinePress release from Humboldt County Public Health:

Humboldt County Public Health reported today 23 new cases of COVID-19, bringing to 10,123 the total number of residents who have tested positive for the virus. Two hospitalizations were also reported, a resident in their 50s and one aged 80 or older.

The first known case of the new Omicron variant in the U.S. was confirmed today in San Francisco, Calif. as health officials throughout the state stepped up surveillance testing and contact tracing to identify and control its spread.

While there are not yet any known cases in Humboldt County, health officials are requesting doctors to ask their patients about their travel history so that they can identify and test those who may have been exposed.

Residents who test positive on at-home tests and have travelled internationally in the past 14 days are asked to call the Joint Information Center at 1-707-441-5000 to report their results to Public Health.

The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) reminds residents that the best way to protect themselves from COVID-19 and variants like Omicron is by getting vaccinated, wearing masks indoors and in crowded places, getting tested immediately regardless of vaccination status if any cold- or flu-like symptoms develop, and staying home when sick.

As of Tuesday, Public Health and other local vaccinators have administered a total of 164,080 doses of COVID-19 vaccine. Local vaccination data has been updated on the Humboldt County Data Dashboard (humboldtgov.org/dashboard). Highlights include:

  • Since the last weekly report, 2,068 vaccine doses have been administered, and 144 additional residents have completed their vaccine series.
  • A total of 81,367 residents, or approximately 68% of the county’s population aged 5 and older, are fully vaccinated. About 9,600 residents, or approximately 8% of the population aged 5 and older, are partially vaccinated as of Tuesday.

Public Health is continuing to urge all eligible residents to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and is offering family clinics this week that give priority to children aged 5 to 11 and provides family members a convenient way to get first or second doses and boosters.

All eligible adults aged 18 and older are encouraged to get a booster. Health officials also stress that those who are partially vaccinated should complete their vaccination series. Someone who is fully vaccinated is half as likely to pass on the infection as someone who is unvaccinated. According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, an unvaccinated person is nearly six times more likely to get COVID-19 and 14 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than a vaccinated person.

Vaccines, including boosters, are available at local pharmacies. To check the availability of a specific vaccine, visit the vaccines.gov page, or text a ZIP code to 438829 to locate a nearby pharmacy offering vaccines.

Humboldt County’s vaccination and testing services are available free of charge. Although walk-ins are allowed at most regular Public Health clinics and many pharmacy vaccination sites, a sharp increase in demand for boosters has caused delays at some locations. As a result, appointments are required for pediatric clinics and for clinics at Public Health’s main office. Appointments are strongly recommended for all other clinics and are the best way to ensure a shot is available during your visit. Appointments can be made at MyTurn.ca.gov.

See the schedule below for specific Public Health vaccination and testing clinic dates, times, locations and available services:

Eureka Family Clinic— Thursday, Dec. 2, 10 a.m. to 3:45 p.m.
Jefferson Community Center (1000 B St.)
Ages 5-18 and family members. No boosters.
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna.
PCR and rapid testing available.
Appointments strongly recommended.

Eureka— Friday, Dec. 3, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m
Wharfinger Building (1 Marina Way).
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna.
No rapid testing available at this clinic. PCR testing offered through OptumServe on the lower floor of the Wharfinger Building.
Appointments strongly recommended.

Eureka Family Clinic – Saturday, Dec. 4, from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Eureka High School Cafeteria (1915 J St.)
Ages 5-18 and family members. No boosters.
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna.
PCR and rapid testing available.
Appointments strongly recommended.

Fortuna Family Clinic – Sunday, Dec. 5, from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Fortuna Resource Center (2089 Newburg Road).
Ages 5-18 and family members. No boosters.
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna.
PCR and rapid testing available.
Appointments strongly recommended.

Eureka — Monday, Dec. 6, 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Clinic appointments full.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna.
Appointment required. No testing available.
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose.
Appointments required.

Willow Creek — Tuesday, Dec. 7, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Office (77 Walnut Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna.
PCR and rapid testing available.
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose.
Appointments strongly recommended.

Redway — Wednesday, Dec. 8, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.
DHHS Office (3156 Redwood Drive)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna.
PCR and rapid testing available.
$25 gift card for adults receiving a first or second dose.

View the Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download data from a previous time.

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 1-707-441-5000.

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov
Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard
Follow us on Facebook: @HumCoCOVID19
Instagram: @HumCoCOVID19
Twitter: @HumCoCOVID19
Humboldt Health Alert: humboldtgov.org/HumboldtHealthAlert

PLEASE NOTE: Some of the numbers related to how many have been fully vaccinated as stated in this article are incorrect. We’re working to get the correct numbers from Public Health. These will be posted at a later date.

UPDATE: RHBB Reader Discovers DHHS Vaccination Calculation Error

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grey fox
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2 years ago

On a side note to those with IRA’s or in CalPERS your stocks took another hit.
Stocks Fall as Omicron Fuels More Volatility
U.S. stocks fell in a choppy trading session, dragged down by news that the first known case of the Omicron variant was identified in the US

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Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

They knew it was here, but they needed a bit more time to position their stocks to maximize the benefit of the announcement.

Once they were all properly positioned…

The diagnosis and it’s announcement were made quickly.

grey fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Exactly. Have you noticed Pfizer’s stock has been going up? Yet Moderna’s dropped another 11%. So short-sellers are also involved.

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Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Sure they are…

The real clever ones make their money coming and going.

Moderna saying their vaccine probably wouldn’t work on Omicron must have made some short sellers a fortune.

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

And the Supreme Court has a case challenging a law that allows abortions in the first 15 weeks of pregnancy. Who doesn’t want that?

grey fox
Member
2 years ago

Today, a 59% majority of U.S. adults say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 39% think abortion should be illegal in all or most cases. These views are relatively unchanged in the past few years. The latest Pew Research Center survey, conducted April 5 to 11. And no that’s not Pepi La Pew

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Doesn’t matter what US adults say. Matters what the Supreme Court and the Constitution says.

grey fox
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2 years ago

Just curious, Is abortion mentioned in the Constitution? And his question was “who doesn’t want that”. Also why should 6 men on the Supreme Court have a say in this? They should all recuse and let the women justices decide

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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

No, infanticide not abortion are mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. Go re-read his post for clarification on what he was actually asking.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

Insert nor for not above…

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Because the Supreme Court is made up of justices ratified by congress, regardless of their gender.

Abortion is a matter for the states to decide, not the federal government.

And in states where abortion will most likely be allowed, a woman is unable to open carry a firearm to protect herself from rape. Mull that one over as liberals become unhinged… “but what if she’s raped???”

Why would someone think there’s a right to infanticide or abortion but take away a woman’s right to protect herself from a cause which would justify abortion?

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

grey fox
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2 years ago

Glad I am not a liberal I am crazy enough on my own

Trust the Science
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Trust the Science
2 years ago

That’s being kind.

grey fox
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2 years ago

I believe a civil war was fought over “states rights.”The confederate states thought slavery should be legal. This is the United States of America not the every state do what they want America. In a true Democracy it should be the majority decides. 59% think abortion should be legal. When Mississippi loses the case will they raise the confederate battle flag and leave the union again

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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

The United States of America is not a Democracy. It is a Democratic Republic.

And the civil war was not fought solely over slavery although slavery was a contributing factor.

The Constitution of the US relegates many things to the states. However the states can not take inalienable rights from the people.

C’mon, grey fox, this is basic civics. Has our education system really become this abysmal?

grey fox
Member
2 years ago

The word “republic” has the same meaning as the term “representative democracy.” And a representative democracy is a form of democracy in the same way that a Granny Smith apple is a form of apple. We wouldn’t say it’s inaccurate to use “apple” to describe a Granny Smith apple, so it’s OK to follow in the footsteps of Jefferson, Adams, Webster, and Chief Justice Marshall and simply call our “representative democracy” a “democracy.
But I flunked civics so what do I know…

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Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Excellent comeback to the tired old “We’re a republic, not a democracy” argument. It’s always used to rationalize undemocratic outcomes, by the same people who scream “undemocratic” when their unconstitutional ideas get shot down in court. In other words, certain people invoke “democracy” in bad faith and only when it is convenient to their ideology; otherwise they invoke “republic.”

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Is the word democracy mentioned in the constitution? No!

grey fox
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2 years ago

Two generations of Americans have no experience of the world before Roe v. Wade, during which obtaining an abortion was a surreptitious, often criminalized process, sometimes ending in physical mutilation and even death, and the right of women to make such decisions was subordinated to the reactionary ministrations of police, priests and politicians. They will react with justified fury to this attempt to turn back the clock.
wsws.org/en/articles/2021/12/02/pers-d02.html

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grey fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

The hearing underscored the role of a clerical-reactionary faction in the US ruling elite, closely allied to the fascistic forces headed by ex-President Donald Trump. The prominence of right-wing Catholics on the high court—Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, and Chief Justice John Roberts—has particular significance on the issue of abortion, where they are imposing a religious dogma in flagrant violation of the separation of church and state.
wsws.org/en/articles/2021/12/02/pers-d02.html

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Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

First they haven’t done it yet and may not. Usually conservatives are much more aware of the conflicts and limits embodied in the Constitution’s protections of religion than liberals. They are very wary of imposing any one religious belief on the government as standard because the next imposition may apply against their own values. Usually they’d rather protect religion in general from government interference on religion than apply their religion’s beliefs. They may believe in the sanctity of fetal life but they would be very reluctant to use government to impose it. It’s just that progressives and other liberals are so fearful of such intrusion from conservatives because that is what they would do when they have the power.

Second, if the court does change the rules, they are much more likely to standardize limits such as time frames than anything else. And that might actually be to the good of all because it would stop the States from attempting their own “solutions” which can be very, very much more restrictive.

grey fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Good argument except for your use of the word liberals. That’s painting with a narrow brush. And “for the good of all”. It’s a minority pushing this

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The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Or that it took 180 years for women to have a legal right to abortion….

With that right being constantly threatened.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

The constitution does not grant the right to infanticide.

The Real Brian
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2 years ago

It absolutely gives the woman a right to freedom of choice.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Freedom of choice doesn’t include killing/harming other humans. A fetus is a human and killing it isn’t a persons right.

Still weird that people think it’s okay to kill another human since they haven’t been born yet. The argument that it’s not developed enough to be viable is total garbage. People have been charged with murder for killing an unborn child (usually when a pregnant woman is killed or harmed).

The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

What a woman does with her body is her choice.

If you kill a baby in a woman, and it wasn’t her choice, you will rightfully be charged for murder.

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

🎅🎅Isn’t this thread suppose to be about Covid??

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

People are tired of being stuck in Groundhog Day, Willie. We ain’t gonna let the government dictate what we discuss.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Americans won’t do jack diddly squat. Tourists forced their way into the Capital to have a look around and CNN Cala it a “coup”.

Don’t believe any of the media opinions that you stumble across.

grey fox
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2 years ago

Today, 79% of Americans don’t want to see Roe v. Wade overturned. The data is clear: Americans support Roe v. Wade and the constitutional right to access abortion

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

We shall see how the Court rules on this, won’t we?

grey fox
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2 years ago

Actually I am thinking a constitutional amendment to decide the issue might be in the offering. That would be the fairest way, let the majority decide.
Women were behind the 19th and 21st Amendments

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Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

That’s what makes the Constitution so valuable. It is filled with some limitations as to what the majority can do to the minority. These limitations are called rights. The abortions exist because of rights. It’s just a normal, although tense, battle to balance those rights that are in conflict with each other. No, voting will not resolve anything.

grey fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

No voting will not change how people think but a constitutional amendment will make it a constitutional right. Which it is all ready, but people seem to be ignoring that.
In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision ruling that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a “right to privacy” that protects a pregnant woman’s right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. The minority is trying to block that access anyway they can. Texas a good example.

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Baby Monster
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Baby Monster
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

I’ve read that Roe vs Wade ruling was based on the right to privacy. Tried to read up on it, never could wrap my head around it.

grey fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Should have included women and the 18th amendment Though that was repealed by the 19th. Anyway women have the power to get things done.

Trust the Science
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Trust the Science
2 years ago

Abortion is a choice.

So is Freedom.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

And if the Supreme Court rules justly on this Mississippi law, women will have the choice to have abortions in the states that allow abortion. Not all states will allow it. Nor should the states be forced to allow it by an over reaching federal government.

Freedom is another matter. Many freedoms are granted by the Constitution that are stepped on by over reaching state governments.

Trust the Science
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Trust the Science
2 years ago

Personally, only women of child bearing age should be voting on abortions. If you are a , male, or post child bearing , grandma, it isn’t your vote. But then the rest of us should not be subsidizing abortions either.

Let the potential mothers weigh the pros and cons of infanticide.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

A woman gets pregnant from a man. I’d want a say in the life or death of my child.

However, with that logic, that only voters whom an issue impacts get to vote on an issue is interesting.

So only registered gun owners can vote on gun issues?

Only the citizens in border states can vote on immigration or whether or not to build the wall?

Only those that pay taxes get to vote on issues that send money to those that don’t?

Hmm, originally the Constitution said only white, male landowners could vote.

Maybe a return to a variation of that is necessary. Only landowners can vote.

The founders were on to something there.

Annie
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Annie
2 years ago

You have no right to hijack someone else’s life and body in order to reproduce. You need to find a willing partner if you want a child.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Annie

If she got knocked up while engaging in intercourse with me, then I assure you, she was a willing and eager partner.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

So do you accept the responsibility to support everything you being you knock up, including paying the mother to take time to care for the child, until it reaches maturity? Or is this just a theoretical support knowing full well it is likely the mother will do it anyway when you avoid it?

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

I’ve never ran from my responsibilities.
You may continue to conjure up more assumptions as you see fit.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

It’s not conjuring. It’s a question. Now since you believe you have met your responsibilities, how do you intend to see others do the same?

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Not my intention to see that others do the same. See, I’m not an authoritarian. That’s a matter between the two adults involved. Not me, not you and definitely not a function of government.

grey fox
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2 years ago

Good so state governments should stay out of women’s rights

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

There is no such thing as “women’s rights”.

Rights expressly mentioned in the constitution are rights for all Americans, regardless of their gender. And since there is no “right” to infanticide or abortion in the Constitution, the federal government needs to let the states decide how they want to approach the issue of abortion and infanticide. However the states are not obligated to grant the “privilege” of infanticide.

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

State government should stay out of all of our rights. You people who support abortion but go along with mandated vaccinations are as smart as a rock.

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago

🎅🎅So if she gives you the baby you have no problem with that right?🦸‍♂️🦸‍♂️

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

Willie, exhale deeply and step away from that skydiver…

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago

🎅🎅Well are you alright with it?🦸‍♂️🦸‍♂️

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

If a woman I got pregnant would choose to give birth to my child and walk away if we weren’t going to create a family, then yes, in a New York minute. I would raise my child. With no regrets.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

Willie, I’ve raised another man’s child with my 2nd wife. It was just the right thing to do. Now that lovely young woman calls me Dad, even though her mom and I split up. I wouldn’t change a damned thing about the relationship that her and I have.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And flip side of the argument, according to your flawed logic:

Should a woman decide to keep a child that the father wants to abort, the woman has no right to hijack funding from the father in question. She needs to find a willing partner to help her pay to raise her child.

The Real Brian
Member
2 years ago

Don’t put your **** in her in the first place.

You’re the folks who love to remind people the consequences of their actions.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

And your oblivious to the fact that there ARE consequences to people’s actions?

Good grief, this country needs an enema!

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

Like that is a constant and never changes. About 60% of non custodial parents give little to no support to their kids. You know what the usual reason give for that? They don’t want to let the other parent have access to the money. That goes for non custodial women as well as men but by volume, it’s mostly male.

The flip side to your insistence that no abortions be allowed is that 60% of kids (likely more) are left to poverty and stress. Just like you say the woman is solely responsible for the result of sex and she can’t get an abortion, you then saddle her with avoiding sex unless she finds one those 40 percent of men who will pay. How about saddling the 60 percent of those non-payers with avoiding sex until they prove themselves respinsible?

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

I like you… okay, let’s unpack this:

Courts decide on custodial issues, right? So if an individual is ordered by the court to pay custodial support, he/she are legally bound to do so. If the individual ordered to pay support shirks that responsibility, then they are committing a criminal act and there are processes in place to hold them accountable. That takes care of that matter.

I do not say that no abortions should be allowed. I personally find infanticide abhorrent. But that is my opinion. I’m entitled to my opinion. What I am saying is Roe vs Wade is unconstitutional due to the fact that it is it not in the constitution. Matters not specifically relegated to the US government by the constitution are matters that the states individually can regulate or legislate. In the matter of abortion, it is up to each individual state to decide. The federal government cannot force the states that don’t allow abortion to offer them.

I did not say the woman is solely responsible for the result of sex. Oftentimes the result of sex is a sticky mess and not necessarily a pregnancy, but I digress… what I said is due to the fact that two adults chose to engage in activity that caused a pregnancy, only one of them should not be the sole decision maker to terminate a child’s life. My argument is if the father does not want to terminate the life of his child then they need to come to an agreement on that and co-parent and meet financial, emotional and nurturing obligations for the well-being of the child or the woman needs to compensate the man for pain and suffering from the grief of killing his child. If the woman does not want to terminate the pregnancy, then she needs to face the possibility that she has to solely be responsible for the care of that child.

As for your last statement about avoiding sex altogether? A return to fundamental Christian values, banning pornography and good moral upbringing will accomplish that!

grey fox
Member
2 years ago

You keep saying it’s not in the Constitution but it is it’s the 14th amendment. And so your against federal governmen interfering but it’s OK for state governments

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

The 14th amendment makes no statement of infanticide. A very liberal interpretation of the 14th amendment was used to uphold Roe vs. Wade. That travesty may very well be corrected by this Supreme Court very soon.

grey fox
Member
2 years ago

So your OK with state governments interfering with women’s rights but not Federal. Got it

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

A point I forgot: if the woman does not want the child and the man does, the man should prepare himself for the sole responsibility of raising and providing for that child. And if the man insists on terminating the pregnancy, he should be prepared to compensate the woman for the pain and anguish from the grief of killing her child.

What I’m referring to is there needs to be a two way street. The Solomon-like decision of life or death of a child should not solely be a decision of the mother when that child could not be conceived without the seed of the father.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Annie

That is just as uselessy controlling and simplistic as any man who wants to keep control of women by making all abortion illegal. Of course there are limits to abortion, both natural and governmental. No reasonable person would want a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy at the risk of an almost full term fetus being crippled. Just as no reasonable person wants to force a woman to die rather than to allow an abortion.

The problem is there are too many very unreasonable people demanding the government enforce both those non-starters. Reality is there’s a very shaded scale that involves three beings, not one.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Thank you. Well said.

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago

🎅🎅BRAVO. 🦸‍♂️🦸‍♂️

The king
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The king
2 years ago

Supreme Court is government. Government does what it wants, not what the majority of citizens wants. That is tyranny. Where is the liberty of government listening to the citizens majority?

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  The king

The Supreme Court does not legislate nor sign legislation into law. Dig a little deeper.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

This justice stumbles and bumbles through our language like Brandon

“They do not include the list that Justice Kavanaugh had here. … There are complex criteria that she’s talking about that link to the position in the rule of law of this court,” Breyer said a few minutes later. “All I would say is you have to read them before beginning to say whether they are overruling or not overruling in the sense meant there calling for special concern.”

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

Shhh… Stephen Breyer refusing to step down means that in 3 or 4 years when he croaks or does step down, a Republican administration can appoint ANOTHER SCJ.

Let him ramble on. With only three liberals on the bench, Breyer’s, Kagan’s and Sotomayor’s dissents are irrelevant. And, for that matter, so is the confused Robert’s opinions.

There, there your Honor… you’re doing a great job!

The Honorable Justice Breyer grins and that vacant look returns to his eyes…

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, why is a law allowing for abortion being challenged if 59% support allowing abortion?

grey fox
Member
2 years ago

Not even going to bother man. There is plenty on here with a more vested interest than me. Though I will say this, Mississippi’s record on people’s rights is pretty abysmal. Jesus they had the confederate battle flag on their state flag until this year

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Reply to  grey fox

No bother, because you have no answer.

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How does a symbol on a piece of cloth pertain to people’s rights?

The only affront to that symbol is people’s perception of that symbol. No more and no less.

“Triggered” in today’s terms.

That symbol on Mississippi’s cloth was debated, discussed and legislated.

Now… how does Mississippi record on people’s rights align with a piece of cloth?

grey fox
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2 years ago

You have to be joking.
Overall, Mississippi had the second highest annual rate of lynchings per capita, of 0.55 per 100,000 each year until 1940. People in white sheets waving confederate flags. Shall I go on or is that enough

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You were saying

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Looks like a Southern Democrat doing Democrat things. What is the date stamp on that picture?

Where was the picture taken? When was the picture taken? Was that picture even taken in Mississippi? Or was it taken in Fallbrook, CA? Or was that taken at the time that Joe Brandon or Hillary Clinton were meeting with Senator Robert Byrd?

grey fox
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2 years ago

Actually quite recently
KKK chapter to hold rally on South Carolina Statehouse grounds
By ADAM B. LERNER 06/29/2015 02:29 PM EDT Updated 06/29/2015 04:00 PM EDT
JACKSON, Miss. —
The Southern Poverty Law Center tracked more than 800 hate groups in 2020 across the United States. The number of them in Mississippi may surprise you

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Not going to deny that there are hate groups in the US. Nor the number that may be in Mississippi or California or any other state or territory of the US.

My point is the KKK was created by Democrats, is still in existence because of Democrats, has the blessings from Democrats of the Brandon Administration and the Clinton Crime Syndicate, and is alive and well with Democrats as its members.

Democrats and the left are racists, through and through. Ever wonder why we hear so much about the color of ones skin these days?

It’s because of racist Democrats.

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Be fair. “It’s because of racist Democrats” who only were Democrats because they hated the interfering Republicans of the Civil War intensely. When the Democrats got all civil-rity in the 1960s, they moved over to Republicans. Which tells you that party labels are pretty useless over time as to being an expression of principle.

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I’m very fair. Which party keeps bringing up skin color and openly pushing racism against whites?

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🎅🎅Both. 🦸‍♂️🦸‍♂️

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Is that Brandon at the Byrd funeral?

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So some people did some things (to loosely quote Ilhan Omar) 80 years ago and you still think the Mississippi of today is trampling on people’s rights???

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2 years ago

Mississippi also lacks basic pro-voter programs such as early voting, no-excuse absentee voting, and online voter registration, which are commonplace elsewhere.
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi legislators imposed no new limits on the election process during their recently ended session, but this state already had some of the strictest voting laws in the U.S. Wonder who’s vote they are trying to suppress?

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Ummm… that constitution thing again?

The constitution clearly leaves voting and the rules that a state may choose to legally vote in by the representatives elected by the people; to the states.

grey fox
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2 years ago

So modern day Jim Crow laws are OK?
Under the VRA, states and counties with a history of discrimination had to get federal approval for new voting laws — which stopped thousands of dangerous provisions from taking effect.

But the Supreme Court gutted that requirement in 2013 — giving the green light to politicians to attack voters’ rights and pass new laws that never would’ve stood up to this review

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Pro-voter programs such as early voting, no-excuse absentee voting and online voter registration are not rights. Those are PRIVILEGES bestowed upon citizens of the states that legislated to allow them.

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Trust the Science
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Let the people of Mississippi govern themselves, we got enough problems in California

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The people of Mississippi will help themselves. They know better than to reach out to the KKK…errr! Democrat party for guidance.

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2 years ago

Pretty childish response.

Big surprise.

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Indeed. Well, laughing boy, how serious shall one take you when you hijack an hours-old conversation and then profess to tell a free people in a free state what they need? Kind of a plantation-owner type of hubris, if I say so my self.

And I just did.

The Real Brian
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2 years ago

Mississippi is a failed State.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

If we stop helping them out, it will cease to exist.

They are literally asking for help .

https://thegrio.com/2011/08/25/why-is-mississippi-so-red-when-its-so-black/

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2 years ago

Because we live in a Republic not a Democracy. They’re certain human rights (see constitution) that are god given that can not be revoked no matter what the mob wants.

grey fox
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2 years ago
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That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot. It is a republic because the Government derives its power from the people.
We are a “representative democracy” And “the mob” can make changes with constitutional amendments.
The 21st Amendment repealed the 18th Amendment of January 16, 1919, ending the increasingly unpopular nationwide prohibition of alcohol.
 the 19th amendment guarantees all American women the right to vote.
Which is where the abortion issue might be headed..

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Fox,

I’ve worded it slightly differently from my readings.

We live in a “representative Republic” which is another word, completely interchangeable, for “Democracy”.

The amount of times the framers used the word “illiberal” when discussing the ideas for our Constitution is remarkable.

They did not want to turn people (immigrants) off with the old restraints of what was left behind (in religiousious monarchies of conservative Britain), and in such, were literally drafting an anti-illiberal document later known as our Constitution.

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ShelbyD
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2 years ago
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I just ordered this book a few days ago. Seems like it may be of interest to you and others on here, so thought I’d share. (or you may have already read it).

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/980031.Democracy

grey fox
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2 years ago
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Sounds interesting but “city states” Believe Italy tried that. Turns into a power struggle.

ShelbyD
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2 years ago
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I think history proves power struggles are inherent to our nature at both the level of the individual and the group. I’m not advocating for anything in recommending this book, I just like to read and discuss. And give and get book recommendations. 🙂

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“Clocking in at 1300 pages of small print text, Carroll Quigley’s seminal work, Tragedy and Hope, is an intimidating and weighty tome. Today we talk to Joe Plummer of JoePlummer.com about his guide to Quigley’s massive book. Available as a free e-book or as a paperback or kindle purchase and dubbed Tragedy and Hope 101, Plummer’s guide condenses, summarizes, explains and footnotes the highlights and lowlights of the text so you can understand the nature of the conspiratorial network that Quigley exposed and why this information is so important.”

corbettreport.com/interview-1158-joe-plummer-teaches-tragedy-and-hope-101/

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I’m about 1/3 of the way through his chapter by chapter summaries, thanks for sharing. I’ve read a bit about some of the things he has touched on thus far, albeit have delved into some topics more deeply than others.

I stumbled upon the book U.N. Agenda 21: Environmental Piracy about 8 or 9 years ago. At the time it felt pretty alarmist to me, and I brushed some of it off as “conspiracy theory.”

But it intrigued me enough to start paying closer attention to this idea of global governance. And over the years I have watched UN Agenda 21 unfold almost exactly as stated in this book–all in the name of sustainable development. The attempt to force rural communities into the city through lack of services, declining roads and infrastructure–including schools!! Loss of property rights and loss of water rights. We are seeing all of this locally.

I’ve been told by a local source the state intends to control all water rights in the next decade. Over-taxation of the predominant industry driving people out. I’m watching the warnings I read in this book unfold in front of my own eyes. It has been an interesting experience to watch this play out and has led me down quite a few research rabbit holes–I’ve been particularly interested in money these past few years. And with all I’ve read, it’s so clear that we’ve got a serious problem.

Over the past five or so years I’ve read quite a bit about Rhodes, the Carnegies, Rockefellers, J. P. Morgan. The tax-exempt foundations in the name of social good, just like the United Nations agendas for sustainable development are under the guise of social and environmental wellbeing. And the Federal Reserve!! And in following the money trail…when two corporations control 70+% of the world’s capital you know there’s a big. fucking. problem.

I’m curious–what are your thoughts about Bitcoin in relation to all of this?

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“And with all I’ve read, it’s so clear that we’ve got a serious problem”

This is the path of the critical thinker.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insideasia/2017/12/10/why-blockchain-is-real-and-bitcoin-is-a-mirage/?sh=1f08001d4215

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the-brutal-truth-about-bitcoin/

I’ve listened to the one of the creators of block chain talk about the platform that is riding on the back of bit coin, (or is it the other way around )?, and to be completely honest with you, I know people of all stripes, who have made a ridiculous amount of money in bitcoin, yet I’ve heard disturbing things about people initially associated with it, who’ve met bad endings.

My honest truth, JPMORGAN holds the patent for the block chain payment technology

https://www.investopedia.com/news/jpmorgan-applies-blockchainpayment-patent/

Are you a fan of David Mamet?

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2 years ago
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Just think we might get so woke, that one day we’ll make a constitutional amendment to give a unborn child a vote

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2 years ago

I am not very smart, I often assume. I assume since some claim it is taking a life, it is not a voting issue. We don’t vote if murdering is illegal. Personally I am for freedoms of choice. I am just assuming how the other side may view.

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The Mississippi law allows for abortions in the first 15 weeks, before the baby can feel the pain of being euthanized with a sharp instrument. What’s wrong with that and what makes it a court case?

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2 years ago

I posted a claim by planned parenthood.
I did not take a position in the post.
I do however find the numbers appalling.
I also wonder, with all the covid medical magic, why we don’t have a birth control pill for men when we’ve had them for 50 years for women.
It would do away with the broken condom excuse and the dreadful snip as the only options for men.

Women who have been raped know they have been raped, doesn’t the morning after pill work, even for a woman with an abusive spouse??
Personally, I believe if people were more responsible for their own behavior the courts would not be an issue.
The courts were brought in to resolve a power struggle.

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The morning after pill. I forgot about that. I’m actually ok with that. The zygote doesn’t adhere in the uterus and gets flushed out. And it complies with Mississippi law. There’s the answer.

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2 years ago

Amazing how simple it is yet how complicated they make it, I wonder why.
Will the Justices remember the morning after pill exists? Women sure don’t seem to.
Then she alone is responsible for her decision, and those who object are not footing the bill and therefore complicit.

Typical costs:
According to Planned Parenthood the typical cost of a morning-after pill, for patients with no health insurance, is between $10 and $70.
The typical cost of a morning-after pill for a patient with health insuranceis between $10 and $30.

Oh, the lack of drama and the inability to claim victimhood.

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“Personally, I believe if people were more responsible for their own behavior the courts would not be an issue.”

Two words.

Divorce Inc.

Root4America
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2 years ago

Go ask the good people in Mississippi who believe that, as a state, they get to decide when abortion is a crime.

Many countries in Europe say 12 weeks is the cutoff, so Mississippi gives you 3 more weeks than that.

If you are concerned about your fertility and your ability to ignore your own responsibility for taking precautions, think twice about having sex.

Life is full of Consequences

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2 years ago

Forcing women to carry fetuses to term results in higher rates of domestic violence and poverty. Also, keep in mind that few rapes are reported, so it also results in women being forced to procreate by their rapists with community support. The lack of available abortion access in this country is shameful.

http://www.reading.ac.uk/web/files/economics/emdp202103.pdf

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Haven’t you heard, no one is being forced to carry a baby. All they have to do is go to the drug store. You can even buy it ahead of time, just in case.

There was no morning after pill when Roe vs Wade was made lawful.

Overview

The morning-after pill is a type of emergency birth control (contraception). Emergency contraception is used to prevent pregnancy for women who’ve had unprotected sex or whose birth control method has failed.
The morning-after pill is intended for backup contraception only, not as a primary method of birth control.

Morning-after pills contain either levonorgestrel (Plan B One-Step, Aftera, others) or ulipristal acetate (ella).
Levonorgestrel is available over-the-counter without a prescription;

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/morning-after-pill/about/pac-20394730

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Ya I don’t understand what all the fear is about. I just short the fear index every time it spikes.

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Lol! Right?!

grey fox
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2 years ago
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Should have gone “long” Dow is up 600 points…
OPEC and a group of Russia-led oil producers agreed to continue pumping more crude, sticking to their long-term plan despite new worries over demand raised by the Omicron coronavirus variant.

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Ya like I said I shorted VXX. That is going long (bullish). Third trade this week. Probably let this one ride.

Green futes look solid, nobody official is holding a press conference. All the near-term bad news by the highest officials unloaded yesterday and were priced in at the close.
Houston we are cleared.

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grey fox
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2 years ago
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So you are trading penny stocks on Robinhood

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You don’t know what VXX is? 70 million shares traded yesterday. Lots of people use it for a hedge.
 Volatility Index

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Read this morning that hospitalization of people with the omicron variant have occurred. Might be a good time not yet to assume such stupid meme reflect reality.

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Yes, but those of us that pay attention are getting quality stocks with fantastic yields during the dip!

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2 years ago

South Africa’s new cases of COVID-19 nearly doubled in a day, authorities reported Wednesday, signaling a dramatic surge in the country where scientists detected the omicron variant last week.

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2 years ago

And not a one of South Africa’s omicron cases is hospitalized

Nooo
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2 years ago

Hopefully it will stay that way. But experience has been that hospitalization follow a week or so after identification and deaths follow a couple of weeks after that. So it’s wait and see.

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Yep. And it’s wait and see if the vaccines will even work on Omicron. Thanks going to take weeks, too.

But they are already using it as leverage to get vaccinated or boosted?

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Did you know…..

Omicron is a 1963 comedic sci-fi film in which an alien variant takes over the dead body of an Earthling to learn about our weaknesses… so his race can take over our planet. There are obvious political and societal sub-texts.

OMICRON (1963) Reviews and overview of alien sci-fi comedy

https://moviesandmania.com/2021/11/27/omicron-movie-film-sci-fi-alien-variant-dead-body-1963-overview-review-reviews/

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2 years ago

“Omicron was in Europe a week before it was reported in South Africa.”

If it was in Europe before it was reported in South Africa, you can bet it has been here long before today.

You can bet it was here, too.

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🎅🎅It was in the Netherlands. ☃️☃️

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2 years ago

New confirmed cases rose to 8,561 Wednesday from 4,373 a day earlier, according to official statistics.

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2 years ago

That’s nothing compared to California, mlr.

How long do you think it’s been here?

California case count for;

11/25) 2
11/26) 236
11/27) 2372
11/28) 574
11/29) 17,211
11/30) 4,955

Cases went up in California about 30 times, overnight, between 11/28, and 11/29… Not just double…

And look what they did between 11/25, and 11/29!!!

Up 8,605 times!!!

And you think South Africa has it bad?

Do you think they haven’t been telling us something for a while?

Surprise! Surprise!

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Those spikes have probably have more to do with holidays, delays on running tests and pre-travel required testing than anything else. The reported tests ran low most days of the previous week.

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2 years ago
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Is it always a guessing game when the facts are presented plainly?

Or just when those facts defy a pre-conceived notion?

Baby Monster
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2 years ago

My guess is they weren’t testing before.

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2 years ago

I wonder if the vaccines will affect Omicron.

If they don’t, I wonder how that will affect how many of the 5-11 year olds will be getting vaccinated.

Or how it will affect how many of the rest of everybody else will get vaccinated or boosted.

I’m a little conflicted by them saying the vaccines probably won’t work on Omicron, but to rush out and get vaccinated or boosted anyway???…

Go figure.

grey fox
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2 years ago
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Well they said the man that tested positive for Omicron in SF was vaccinated and had mild symptoms. Have to see how he does. And yes parents were already skeptical of the vaccine so this will add to that.To many variables to be sure about anything right now. And as mentioned the drug companies are already working on vaccines to combat Omicron. Xmas coming up. Those CEO’s need that bonus $…

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2 years ago
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Not much benefit vaccinating school kids, doesn’t even help teachers

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Yeah, kind of a small sample group.

And quickly manipulating the stock market after properly positioning yourself is probably pretty lucrative.

I really can’t figure out why else the CEO of Moderna would state publicly that their vaccines might not work against Omicron…

Must have shorted his own stock first…

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They’re saying vaccines reduce the severity of omicron same as other variants

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2 years ago

Just how I like my viruses.

Milder than milder.

I’m thinking that with the release of Omicron, they are now testing “the off switch”.

Nobody does conspiracy theories
quite like I do….

Don’t you agree?

I hope it works.

You heard it here first.

Omicron, it’s the Covid19 “off switch”.

I just hope it’s not the “coup de gras”.

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2 years ago
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These government people want their stocks in these pharma companies to continue to rise.

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2 years ago

Groundhog Wednesday…

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2 years ago

Mass vaccination fails to halt Covid transmission rates – study — RT World News

…eventually… the lab virus… which mutates inside of the jabbed…will succumb to natural immunity. God Bless you if you have caveman blood type… O positive… you are the immunity develop group… are the repeated jabbed actually a petrie dish of mutations…? Is this the plan?

Who to be more afraid of..the repeated jabbed…or the never jabbed… it’s a mystery!! 🙂

I don’t trust them…but that’s just me. Make your own decisions.

let the mystery be iris dement – YouTube

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Hmmm. Are you calling me a caveman? You mean like bat cave man? O-positive huh? Yep, that would be me. No wonder I hate bats. It must go way back… They are actually pretty smart. I used to have them in my house. If they wanted me to open the window so they could go out at night, they would hover over my head when I was trying to sleep. Yikes!
I would jump right up and open that MFin’ window pronto. They had me totally trained. Talk about the creeps!

But my new cat was a Godsend.

She gave them the bums rush.

I sure love her.

God bless you, too.

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2 years ago

🎅🎅640,000 children left without a parent or guardian due to covid deaths. ☃️☃️

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2 years ago

I thought most were seniors

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2 years ago

625,346 aborted children in 2019 according to the CDC.

That’s 1,250,692 grandparents that won’t get to hug their grandchild.

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2 years ago

….and there’s those grandparents that won’t be having to raise a child from a dead beat druggie parent either.

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I truly hope you’re not speaking from experience, Craig…

Craig
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2 years ago

No, just from observation.

Annie
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2 years ago

Your numbers are off. Over half of those grandparents are already grandparents, and over half of them will have another grandchild at a time that is more stable for the family. They just have to wait a bit.

https://www.fatherly.com/love-money/who-gets-abortions-mothers/

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Reread what I wrote and get back to me.

The Real Brian
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2 years ago

That’s the most absurd arguement I’ve ever heard, but isn’t that your goal?

You’ve been ignoring those grandparents all through Covid insisting that all they do is die anyway.

Further, if there is no child, there is no parent, and no grandparent.

So the number of grandparents missing grandchildren from abortion is ZERO.

Stop forcing women to stay pregnant already.

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2 years ago

Stop telling regular people to get the shot kym, it’s for elderly and people with comorbidities, anything other than that is just a flat out lie.

Your pushing a mainstream propagandist message that is related to billions if not trillions of dollars to the shiftiest humans in the universe.

This county is 99.99% yuppies, any hippie you find must of had a stroke to have stayed in humboldt where it seems the greediest of people stayed even while the getting out was good.

This place is absolutely not going to last with the plasticity of its people that decided to stay & live here.

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You’re living in a fantasy world of bullshit kym.

And yes you are driving a narrative here, your words or not ( a county press release), this is insane to be promoting a leaky vaccine for children & others that have no risk of dying from it.

If you think this is such a scary disease, why, why in the fucking world have the elites profits skyrocketed and so many are living in squalor in such a terrible time on earth… why aren’t there trucks of dead body’s around homeless encampments, why did every good small business die and Walmart and target got bigger?…. for one of the so called “deadliest pandemics” no one thought to give healthcare for all to save at least the first 200,000 people?…. why, why why?

why do you think you can vaccinated out of a disease that has been talked about world wide, that it is in fact now a endemic, everyone will get this, everyone, over time, it isn’t leaving and as it mutates it because less and less “deadly”.

But thank god for the nazi Germany companies like J&J to create a vaccine for a virus that has a staggering 0.05% or whatever the unbelievably small percent chance of dying from it is….

You’re one of us, stop parroting for the oligarchs that run a muck.

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There are totally different definitions going on- fantasy is the word that anti vaxxers use to describe anything that doesn’t fit what they believe even it puts them on a ventilator in a hospital. Apparently they demand that any vaccine have decades of testing and history before it’s available. By which time 10 times more people will have died and the variants would still be rolling through from the unvaccinated. They demand vaccines have zero side effects and is only used for diseases that frighten themselves and only if they agree. Oh I can hear the whizzing now that they never said that and they knew all about covid from the very beginning from the very beginning. Yeah, right. That’s their fantasy- there is never such a miracle vaccine, none of the crap they say on this site every day has ever happened. It took two years just for them to stop announcing it was the flu.

There are places where the deaths have been very low. And there are places where the deaths have been low and the economy did well. None of those places are run by anti vaxxers, anti government and conspiracy elements.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

“Leaky vaccine” is the operative term here that apparently needs defining.

I believe Tony is using it correctly.

Covid19 vaccines are definitely “leaky”.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I beg to differ.

The Covid19 vaccines are textbook examples of a leaky vaccines.

The only alternative is a perfect
vaccine.

Is that what you are suggesting?

The Covid19 vaccines aren’t even in the realm of being perfect.

The only alternative is that they are in fact, leaky.

Extremely leaky, that is.

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2 years ago
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“Vaccine type 1”, “Reduces the probability of infection upon exposure by factor E [sic].”

“Failure in degree”.

” Leaky vaccine”

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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

*Promoting Truth* with no teeth?

“Even if you “get away” with unhealthy habits, you might not feel your best every day (which you may not even notice, because it’s become your “normal”). ”

Promoting a healthy lifestyle, diet, and focusing on prevention..
.so the only option later in life is not a managed decline with a heavy reliance on drugs.

“Eat food, not too much, mostly plants ” Michael Pollen

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2 years ago
Reply to  Tony

Tony, you know the answer, and Kym simply refuses to recognize her trust in the medical bureaucracy working in conjuction with private sector and the public sector to fundamentally change society.

Face it, if you are childless, you probably don’t have anything to worry about. If you are an older parent, with younger kids, or even grandkids, then simply accept the fact that your focus needs to be disruption of the information that gets to the kids, that supports this bullshit narrative.

Kym is an extension of corporate controlled media on this subject and, she holds zero accountability for any mistakes for following the narrative.

Change the narrative of your family and friends and build new relationships with like minded people who believe “mandates are madness”.

Let Mississippi be Mississippi.

FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS

grey fox
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2 years ago

Minnesota reports 2nd case in US. The man, who was fully vaccinated and has since recovered, traveled to New York City to attend the Anime NYC 2021 convention at the Javits Center from Nov. 19-21, the department said in a statement.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/02/minnesota-reports-second-us-omicron-covid-case-in-resident-who-traveled-to-nyc.html

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2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

🎅🎅New York is were I thought it would start for us. ☃️☃️

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2 years ago

How is it omicron mutations evolve from the original covid and not subsequent and now dominate variants? And how could omicron spontaneously spawn so many mutations at one time? Somethings 🐟 🐠 🎣

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2 years ago

Another release of an engineered virus.
What needs to be checked is if this one may have existed before the “original” strain, and didn’t evolve from it at all, and that if anything, the reverse may be true.

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Reply to  Guest

If a person is driven to find patterns, apparently the total lack of information doesn’t give them pause.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

If a person is driven to find excuses, no pattern is necessary.

They can wander endlessly and aimlessly, in an ever more opposite direction.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

The omicron variant might have originated in someone with a suppressed immune system
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060185915/the-omicron-variant-might-have-originated-in-someone-with-a-suppressed-immune-sy

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Reply to  grey fox

If the first SARScov2 virus was, in fact engineered, then why not the most recent one?

Especially since they really don’t resemble each other that much.
I’m not buying the immune compromised host theory.

They didn’t even try that with the first virus.

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2 years ago

🎅🎅Not really viruses do such things. HIV is still creating mutations that’s why they can’t peg down a cure. 🦸‍♂️🦸‍♂️

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2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Omicron is 2 for 2 in vaccinated individuals…

So, getting vaccinated or boosted, in order to prevent Omicron infection, seems like pretty dubious advice, so far.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Well one recovered another mild symptoms. So you could also say the vaccine helped. Would like to see South African data on the subject. Bigger group there. Were any serious cases reported, how many unvaccinated etc etc. maybe all that happens is mild symptoms vaccinated or not. Also they say he was fully vaccinated. Is that 2 or with the booster? What vaccine did he get?

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2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

Then why wouldn’t it be infecting the non vaccinated?

I mean maybe it is, but I haven’t seen that information.

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2 years ago
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Not only the non vaccinated and vaccinated but the previously infected too. “Doctors treating people in the region of South Africa where Omicron is surging have told Sky News they have seen a rise in the number of patients being reinfected and vaccinated patients catching COVID-19… The latest data, according to Professor van Gottberg, found that out of the 249 samples the authorities had been able to sequence in November, 183 were Omicron – around 75%.”
Which is why, despite the rumors it is mostly mild, has scientists concerned. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-south-africa-doctors-see-skyrocketing-cases-in-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-but-symptoms-mild-in-omicron-hotspot-12484607

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2 years ago
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🎅🎅A majority of the people in South Africa IN THE HOSPITAL are unvaccinated. 🦸‍♂️🦸‍♂️

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2 years ago

With Omicron?

grey fox
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2 years ago
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I have a feeling South Africa doctors are getting overwhelmed with patients and don’t care what letter of the Greek is causing it. They just know they have a lot of sick people.

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2 years ago
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🎅🎅Yep.☃️☃️

Joshua WoodsD
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2 years ago

So around 80% of the nation has gotten at least one shot. If this “vaccine” was effective herd immunity would be easily achieved. Even if we somehow managed 95%+ covid shots, this will still not go away and the 5% would still be blamed for the continuance of this “pandemic”. Government doesn’t want to release its control and the pharma companies don’t want to see an end to the revenue stream provided by government mandates.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Joshua Woods

It’s likely that most 96% officials would happily “relinquish control” over people who simply won’t cooperate even for things that are clearly to their advantage. But then they get “held accountable ” whether they do or they don’t. Especially when people just make “facts” up.

Besides the fact that one shot of vaccine does not provide substantial protection and the even two shoots needs about 2 weeks to become effective, six months ago less than 40% were fully vaccinated and at the beginning of this month, it was 60%. https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/

Well, even if the new variant evades the protection of vaccination or previous infection, hopefully it will be mild enough that people don’t need hospital care for it anyway. We’ll know when all segments of the population from infants to old have been exposed in enough numbers.

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2 years ago

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