Deaths and Hospitalizations of the Unvaccinated Greatly Outnumber Those of the Vaccinated Says Humboldt County’s Public Health Officer, Provides Graph
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Letter to the Humboldt County Board of Supervisors from Dr. Ian P. Hoffman, Humboldt County Health Officer updating them on the latest COVID information today:
COVID-19 case rates have continued to drop over the past few weeks which is needed news for our community. The case rates today remain high, however, near where they were during the peaks of the previous surges in winter and spring.
Under the CDPH “Blueprint for a Safer Economy” we would continue to be assigned “Purple Tier” as of today. Based on CDC data tracker website, Humboldt County continues to be in the “Red, High Transmission” tier.
Per CDC guidance, all residents in “Red, High Transmission” tier counties are recommended to mask regardless of vaccination status, and avoid gatherings and crowded places, especially those with risk factors for severe COVID-19 illness or those who are unvaccinated or both.
Hospitalizations remain higher than they were during the peaks of previous winter and spring surges despite the declining case rates. This is due to very high overall cases in this surge.
We will likely continue to see hospitalizations and deaths at these higher rates in coming weeks before they start to decline 2-4 weeks behind the decline in COVID-19 case rates.
The average age for hospitalization in the Delta surge differs among fully vaccinated and unvaccinated groups (57 years of age average for unvaccinated hospitalizations, 75 years of age average for post-vaccine infection hospitalizations). This is also true of deaths based on vaccination status (66 years of age average for unvaccinated deaths, 79 years of age average for post-vaccine infection deaths).
The graphs below illustrate that during the Delta surge the number of hospitalizations and deaths were largely in the unvaccinated despite the fully vaccinated making up a larger percentage of the population. Currently 57% of the county is fully vaccinated. Blue represents fully vaccinated; orange represents unvaccinated populations.
Monoclonal antibody clinics at Saint Joseph’s Hospital in Eureka continue to help mitigate the hospital impact during this surge. The state has extended support for this clinic to continue through the end of November. So far none of those who have become infected with COVID-19 virus and then received monoclonal antibody treatment have been hospitalized. And while this treatment is very effective in the short term at helping protect our hospitals and the individuals who received the treatment, it does not replace vaccination in that the antibody protection afforded by this treatment lasts only a few months.
Vaccine immunity is expected to last for years if not a lifetime, and those who received antibody treatment are recommended to get vaccinated 90 days after the antibody treatment.
Vaccines continue to be the best, safest, most cost-effective protection against COVID-19 disease for our community. Data continues to support that communities with higher vaccination rates have seen less hospital and death burden during the Delta surge even though there are cases in the fully vaccinated. Post-vaccine cases are milder, less likely to spread to close contacts, and are much less [likely] to result in severe disease.
Humboldt County Public Health vaccine clinics are providing Pfizer boosters and Moderna additional doses for immunocompromised, and we are preparing for likely CDC approvals for other boosters, as well as the likely approval for Pfizer for the 5-11 age group. Humboldt County Public Health will continue to support efforts to increase vaccination in our community as it is the best tool to end the pandemic.
With the expansion of Pfizer boosters by CDC approval a few weeks ago we have seen increases in number of boosters given across the county. These boosters help to reduce the hospital and death burden in the fully vaccinated as well as lowering the number of infections in those getting boosters.
Unfortunately, we have also seen a sharp decline in first and second doses in that same time. It is imperative that we as a community continue to increase the number of those who are fully vaccinated, so all efforts towards that goal are encouraged.
There are still around 6% of the population who are only partially vaccinated, and it is important for those folks to complete their vaccination as we know with Delta that partial vaccination is much less effective than it was against prior variants.
Several local organizations, business, venues have taken steps towards requiring vaccination, a step which helps increase the overall rate of vaccination in the community. While boosters will help to reduce some of the COVID-19 impact by reducing hospitalization and death in those at the highest risk, booster will not get us out of the pandemic. Only increasing first and second doses will get us closer to ending the pandemic.
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“Vaccines continue to be the best, safest, most cost-effective protection against COVID-19 disease for our community. Data continues to support that communities with higher vaccination rates have seen less hospital and death burden during the Delta surge even though there are cases in the fully vaccinated. Post-vaccine cases are milder, less likely to spread to close contacts, and are much less [likely] to result in severe disease.”
Thank you, Dr Hoffman
Get your vaccine, do it today!
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58965650
Officials are keeping a close watch on a new descendant of the Delta variant of Covid that is causing a growing number of infections
Get ready for booster #6 !!
Won’t be needed. Can’t you read?!
“Vaccine immunity is expected to last for years if not a lifetime,”
– Humboldt County Public Health
until China turns out a new virus
Good point That Guy in Arcata. If vaxx immunity is expected to last for years if not a lifetime, then a booster wouldn’t be needed.
Pretty soon people are going to be required to carry a covid vaccine log book instead of proving they are a card carrying member of the covid drug society.
Or just take some aspirin?
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/aspirin-lowers-risk-of-covid-new-findings-support-preliminary-israeli-trial-681127
It will be played out like a Rock V or Jaws 6 movie. Whatever happens, they will make sure we have to continue to rely on their injections in order to work, travel, eat, etc.
Stop projecting your own fear onto others.
Accusing others of Fear for saying that a new variant is being watched sounds exactly like Projecting fear and denial to me.
Sorry Rick, this entire event has been played out using fear, fear and more fear to get agendas done. Everyone spreads fear. I’m in fear of you telling us not to fear.
See a lot of people claiming that fear has been unmotivated in this. It’s clear that fear is played a role in people’s refusing vaccination.
When I can’t understand is why anyone would think that fear is the motivator for distancing masking or getting vaccinated. This just doesn’t make any sense when you can explain people’s motivation with evidence rather than claiming it is fear.
Nearly everyone I know is vaccinated and not a single one of them did it out of fear.
It was designed to “vary” as they call it. The Wuhan lab calls it genetically spliced with bat gene sequence. Who’s lying now.
Oh no! And if everybody got vaccinated, these new variants wouldn’t have as much of a chance to evolve and spread.
You are no longer an atheist VMG, sadly the vaccine has become your new religion!
Average fatality age 66 and 75 , and why are we mandating 0-17 age group , ridiculous, selfish, greedy , zero concern about long term health issues if your 60, just plain selfish .
Because people age 66 and 75 can contract the virus from people 0 to 17. I know you’re bright enough to understand that.
You would have a point except for that there really is no risk of long-term health issues for young people getting vaccinated.
Where did you get your long term risk data from?
I am soooo confused.
CDC keeps putting out official VAERS reports of numbers of deaths, complications, and permanent disabilities and no one cares. We are at 1 million persons in complications.
Even the FDA posted a power point listing 22 complications prior to roll out.
Are you really believing this business of permanent immunity here? Some facts are as plain as the nose on your face.
Dr. Hoffman – Vaccines are NOT the best, safest way to protect against COVID – taking care of yourself is. Don’t use an injection of whatever to excuse behavior. THE GOVERNMENTS KEEP TELLING PEOPLE the VAX shot will forbid you from getting COVID – NOT TRUE I don’t get the flu because I protect myself very well. Very conscious about what I do and don’t do. THAT is the best way to protect yourself. SEE – you lie because YOU KNOW that the vax shot does not STOP YOU FROM GETTING SARS-COVID. It doesn’t stop the transmission. Sorry [edit], it reduces the symptoms only. You need to go back to school, or stop lying to yourself or to me and the others. Hundreds of doctors around the world seem to either say what they are told to say, or they are clueless as to what they are saying. Vaccines do NOT STOP transmission.
Thanks.
smh …
Ya, that graph of hospitalizations and deaths of vaccinated vs unvaccinated means red people are good and blue people are bad, nkay?
Doesn’t it make you more susceptible to transmit the virus if they symptoms are reduced? How many asymptomatic people don’t know they have it yet are transmitting it.
It’s not only symptoms that are reduced, it’s also the viral load, which makes you less contagious.
yes this, and the greatly reduced probability of getting an infection in the first place. Vaccination reduces spread, by a lot. Enough that we could stop this if enough people would get vaccinated, but thanks to their misplaced skepticism (and more than a few bad actors playing them like a harp) we’re all going to have to suffer with this possibly forever.
False. The viral load is equal.
Doctor – what is the average cost for a covid test – I have evidence they charge thousands of dollars – yet require you. Oh I know, they bill the insurance. It’s as much as getting an MRI or CT scan. That is the force behind all this – the medical Testing companies. Oh sure, the shot only costs 16 dollars yet the testing is $3,569.99. Thanks.
That is completely false. You can get tested for free at multiple places right here in Eureka..
So, the bottom line is that 12.5 deaths, and 58 hospitalizations have been prevented June through October, by everyone that’s gotten vaccinations.
That’s an average of;
2.78 deaths per month, and,
12.89 hospitalizations per month, by
vaccinating a total of 78,236 people.
6,258.9 people vaccinated to prevent each death, and,
1,348.9 people vaccinated to prevent each hospitalization.
That is open to interpretation…
How did you arrive at 12.5 deaths and 58 hospitalizations?
the poor .5. they don’t even count us as whole people anymore. I’m a percentage of a person – : D
Hospitalization rate for Vaccinated: 44/78236 = 0.00056
Hospitalization rate for Idiots: 180/57704 = 0.0031
Applying hospitalization rate to a theoretical population that was 100% vaccinated: 78236+57704 = 135940 total pop.
135940*0.00056 = 76.5 projected hospitalizations for 100% vaxed pop.
Actual hospitalizations: 244
Projected diff: 168 hospitalizations
Difference in deaths if everyone had been vaccinated:
13/78236 = 0.000017 rate of deaths for vaccinated
135940(tot. pop.)*0.000017 = 23
Actual deaths: 51
Projected diff: 28 deaths.
4855 vaccinated to prevent each death and 809 to prevent each hospitalization. A strong argument for vacation.
Math might be wrong but at least you will be able to see exactly where its wrong.
Your numbers look fine.
Probably 30,000 of the 57, 000 are ineligible, not idiots.
And it truly remains to be seen who the idiots might end up being.
I would question the intelligence of anyone suggesting that idiocy could be cured by simply being vaccinated.
As if that makes a difference.
Consider that I say that 10 days
from being fully vaccinated.
Maybe there is hope.
But how is what you show a strong argument for vaccination for anyone but the most at risk?
And for what age demographic?
Your not going to be able to justify vaccination in the youngest categories that way, because there were no deaths, and the vaccination does not come without risk.
It’s not like these vaccinations don’t involve risk.
Lies and manipulation! I talk to a lot of people, running a business, that I think only 25% are actually jabbed. And those 25% are pissed!
Who is your clientele? Skateboarding Republicans?
Skateboarding republicans now are the culls of society? When will this madness end??
when Pelosi is out of office
OH, “you talk to a lot of people…”
Sounds super solid, totally legit. We’ll just go with some rando on a comment board for our information. Thank you so much for your contribution, very enlightening.
Interestingly only a quarter of those with serious symptoms requiring hospitalization, are fully vaxxed.
But 1/3 of all deaths — one out of every 3 — are in the fully vaccinated!!
(And we know if there was transparency, including the partially vaxxed and those less than 2week from last jab in the data would cause that rate to go up.)
Exactly, Moderated. They need to provide more transparency. At least 25% of the Covid fatalities are in the fully vaxxed since June, locally.
They need to provide the data for the partially vaxxed, as the letter encouraged the partially vaxxed to get the second vaxx they need to include the data for the partially vaxxed.
They have the data for the partially vaxxed, they could include it if they wanted, but they don’t.
Seems to me it would be 136 hospitalizations and 25 deaths saved, and that is assuming an even 50/50 ratio of vaccinated/unvaccinated over that time frame. If you use the 57% vaccinated, it would even be a bit higher. Your point is good, but you math is a little faulty.
Another way to look at the numbers is to say that 3/4 of the people that would have been hospitalized from Covid, didn’t end up hospitalized because they got vaccinated and 2/3 of those that would have died, didn’t because they got vaccinated.
Looks like I should have said 68 not 58.
Sloppy math. My bad.
And yes, I agree, I came up with 25 and 136 as well.
The 50/50 thing must have threw me off.
Looks like I zigged where I should have zagged.
so, bottom line is we’d better take your posts with a grain of salt.
Bottom line, I thought it was a good idea to get vaccinated.
Maybe that’s the problem?
Are you saying that I made a
mistake?
I’m beginning to think that way.
Take with a grain of salt whatever post you want, if that’s what you prefer.
I don’t see it as making much difference.
I was pointing out your very matter of fact statement was nothing of the sort.
The data that we have shows the vaccine is effective, I don’t think anyone made a mistake getting the vaccine.
All numbers look impressive when written well…..
My point, however accurate, was that if only 12.5 of the group of 38 were moved into the other group of 13, they would be equal at 25.5.
I realize that logic might be a little fuzzy.
I split the difference.
Covid is still spreading, killing and hospitalizing our community members. Please get vaccinated for the sake of our health care resources and community members. If you choose not to be vaccinated, please stay home and don’t risk the rest of us by going out in public. A new more deadly variant could arise anytime. Thank you in advance.
Meanwhile back east we are smoking some of NorCals finest (ok let’s say average), the girls are over every weekend and looking better than ever, the booze is flowing, the grill is still fired up, we are eating like kings, and trust me I am getting it in. Cheers my friends, and as always, stay safe.
Nice to know you are getting some snatch. We all needed to know that.
“the girls are over every weekend
and looking better than ever”
(ok let’s say average)
I got a good chuckle I’ll admit it……all I’m saying is I’m living life well as are those around me
Good to hear, and, good to hear.
I was just playing. Glad it made you chuckle.
Sending you all the best…
I’m going out in public, super spreader events, out of country etc, stay home if your scared, the rest of us will party on like we have for the last year and a half. Covid is a joke if your young, only bummer is the boomer crowd pushing their worthless drugs for the young. Don’t worry squirrel, I have no use for your germ infested hospital, I don’t like to hang out with strung outs looking for more drugs.
Oh cool, well don’t bother taking up space in our hospitals when you get sick then.
Questions and facts are unpopular these days! Here’s a few for you to hate:
Vaccinated individuals can still contract and spread the virus. Their viral load is equal to that of the unvaccinated. (link below) So, how many folks have been infected by unmasked vaxxed?
As a covid survivor, I have naturally produced antibodies in my system. When will people stop telling me to trust pharma more than I trust my own body?
The vaccine:
Is experimental.
Doesn’t work as advertised.
Is not guaranteed to protect you.
Does not stop viral shedding.
Is directly responsible for over 1600 deaths.
The companies:
Have been sued numerous times over the years because of their medications.
Have made record profits from distribution of their vaccines.
Are exempt from lawsuits stemming from vaccine complications.
One last question:
Since when is it ok to blindly trust the government?
Johnson was part of the opioid crisis snd Pfizer was sued for the arthritis drug over 2 bill because it knew about heart attacks as a reaction that it did not reveal.
Everything you said is fact, except the death rate, which is many multiples of 1600.
I was referring to deaths directly related to the vaccines.
So was I
“So, how many folks have been infected by unmasked vaxxed?” About 65 % less than vaccinated people apparently.
“There is emerging evidence that even though cycle threshold values may be the same regardless of vaccination status, people who are vaccinated may have less infectious virus in their bodies, potentially reducing transmission. Richterman pointed to a recent pre-print from China that found a large reduction in transmission in those who had received two doses of vaccine, compared to the unvaccinated.
Vaccines have the ability to prevent transmission of the virus in two ways, he said. The first is by preventing infection altogether. The other is by reducing the amount of infectious virus should somebody get sick.
“People who have been vaccinated will have immune systems at the ready that can coat the virus in antibodies much more quickly than unvaccinated people who have to build up an immune response,” Richterman said.” And “People who have been vaccinated will have immune systems at the ready that can coat the virus in antibodies much more quickly than unvaccinated people who have to build up an immune response,” Richterman said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583
Just say nooo to drugs.
Viral shedding begins before symptoms become apparent, regardless of vaccination status.
Less infectious, you got me rollin on the ground, good one! You da man , that one I hadn’t heard yet, crack me up.
Remember…..when you said Covid would end in 2020 elections.
Remember when you thought the vaxx would actually protect you?
your issues are with trust and whom to trust. There is no vaccine for that
Wish I could give you an air-hug. You are right on the money. Their money….
OUR money!
The pre-publication, pre-peer review paper that you ment to cite, that found viral loads being roughly equal in vaccine and unvaccinated has now been disproven by many studies showing that viral load is reduced in vaccinated individuals.
The paper you were attempting to cite was surprising because we know that in general with viruses viral load strongly corresponds to severity of symptoms.
There’s no need to blindly trust the government or big pharma. Not if you have the ability to read and are free of a deep cognitive bias instilled by American conservatism.
Boy, do you have me wrong! I am an avowed socialist, far to the left of Bernie Sanders.
If you really believe that unvaccinated carry the virus and vaccinated dont then you are illogical and not to be trusted.
YES I FULLY AGREE
What continues to surprise me, is the sheer lack of oxygen in the room for just about every other concern in society that can have a negative effect on a brighter tomorrow. It’s as if all these people who normally give zero fucks in terms of what they actually contribute to society, except for a tax base that keeps Washington DC looking for more ways to control the flow of our life”s potential. You lazy ass people should be ashamed.
This thread is about covid and vaccines. There is a time and place to talk about racism, taxes, police shootings, and injustices against ferrari owners. But THIS thread is about covid and vaccines.
How did you know I have a Ferrari?
Wow. So you promote that if ypu are vaxed that you aren’t a risk. Oh, so it must be our fault. Yet you just sneezed all over me in the store because you didn’t wear a mask because you were told you didn’t need to. What a crock of modern-day bullshit.
Far more law enforcement officers in the U.S. have died from Covid-19 than from any other work-related cause in 2020 and 2021. Even so, police unions are fighting vaccine mandates. The New York Times 10/19/21
“Far more” FEDVAXBOTS freebase adderall and post obsessively than only consume their antipsychotics and get on with their lives.
Your probably happy. I bet your a defund police peep. This will end soon no mask in San Diego border town. San Francisco talking about it definitely not back east what will you do when this is over. I’m guessing global warming 🤣🤣🤣😎😎
no one should ever go to a hospital for Covid
How many recorded deaths are “died with covid” as opposed to “died from covid”? The death numbers are being greatly exaggerated.
I was looking at the Pfizer website and the page about the covid vaccine plainly states that their vaccine is NOT APPROVED by the FDA. I already knew that of course. I just didn’t know that Pfizer posted that information on their site.
It is amazing how people will refuse to see the truth no matter what.
https://www.pfizer.com/products/product-detail/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine
Is an airplane sitting on the ground a groundplane until it is in the air? It is amazing that people can’t see that the same thing in a different place is still the same thing. Did you expect them to just slap a new label on bottles manufactured previously under the EUA and call it good? Or just through them all out?
“COMIRNATY and BNT162b2 (V8) have identical amino
acid sequences of the encoded antigens but COMIRNATY includes the presence of
optimized codons to improve antigen expression. ”
From the official FDA response to the Pfizer-BioNTech BLA. I linked it the other day, I can pull the link up again if you haven’t had a chance to read it. It certainly appears that there are at least minor changes between the newly approved product and the product that has been available.
Of course, the same document says that “comirnaty and BNT162b2 are used interchangeably in this document”, and another fda document says that the two have “identical formulations”. So it’s hard to know what the fda is trying to communicate.
So, what, “identical formulations”, but formulated differently?
“Optimized codons” isn’t that easy to understand.
Exactly. Identical, except for the minor changes, I guess?
I wish we could all come together to acknowledge that our public agencies have failed to conduct themselves with honesty and transparency and that has created the environment of distrust that produces so many of the issues the ardent vaccine advocates fret about.
Let’s demand more honesty from our public servants
“This product information is intended only for residents of the United States.This product is exclusively distributed within the U.S. under an Emergency Use Authorization from FDA.
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 16 years of age and older. The emergency use of this product is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of the medical product under Section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act unless the declaration is terminated or authorization revoked sooner. Please see EUA Fact Sheet at http://www.cvdvaccine.com”
you need to update your server.
Thank you. And FDA voted to vaccinate only 16 years of age and up.
https://thehighwire.com/news/san-francisco-closes-in-n-out-burger-after-defying-citys-vaccine-rule/
We refuse to become the vaccination police for any government. It is unreasonable, invasive, and unsafe to force our restaurant associates to segregate customers,”
*imagine being for segregation and thinking you are a moral human being. truly atheists with news and politicians as gods.
I can’t believe Kim allowed Del Bigtree and the Highwire to be posted! Good for you Kim! There ARE dissenting opinions out there that are credible and I salute you for bending just a little.
“The burger joint has since reopened but is no longer offering indoor dining, an In-N-Out spokesperson told Insider.” https://www.businessinsider.com/san-franciscos-in-n-out-closed-not-checking-vaccine-2021-10
I wonder if this has anything to do with it….
Actually closing that restaurant was a good thing in 2 ways. Close down a place that sells heart attacks in a hamburger bun. And one less place to spread the virus.
How is damaging the economy with a scamdemic a good thing? Look around, we’re going down. We actually cannot print money and survive.
Quite picking on food as THE PROBLEM! GMOs are man made. Cow farts are not the enemy. Zero carbon footprint means your dead. It is the Elite who want you eating bugs. I assure you, they are not.
“The graphs below illustrate that during the Delta surge the number of hospitalizations and deaths were largely in the unvaccinated despite the fully vaccinated making up a larger percentage of the population. Currently 57% of the county is fully vaccinated. Blue represents fully vaccinated; orange represents unvaccinated populations.”
I can make graphs too showing just the opposite. C’Mon MAN! Where’s the SOURCE?
Source = Dead bodies. Dead bodies are easy to count cause they don’t move. I am pretty sure the accuracy of the dead body count is accurate cause we don’t have dead bodies all over the streets we store and track dead bodies. Again, it’s easy to track a dead body cause they don’t move on their own!
So what are the statistics of dead bodies comparing those that were vaccinated vs those that were not? And how many died in the first two weeks of the jab which will not be counted?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html
And where are the stats of all the “possible” side effects that caused death or serious illness? The water is so muddy we will never know.
Thanks. They could at least provide the data for the partially vaxxed locally, they have the data, they could provide it, but they don’t.
Dept of public health records? Because those are mostly the figures from the Humboldt Co Dashbord
Please provide. I’m too lazy.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20211017/Researchers-identify-common-side-effects-of-three-COVID-19-vaccines.aspx
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 310 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through June 14, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 5,343 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. NOTE: reporting to VAERS does not mean the report is accurate or the real cause of death.
https://www.news-medical.net/health/Blood-Clotting-and-COVID-19-Vaccines.aspx
Also NOTE: All available evidence indicates that vaers captures well under 10% of actual vaccine reactions. This includes a study conducted at Massachusetts General hospital that look at anaphylaxis incidence following covid vaccine administration. That study found that vaers reporting appears to have captured between 0.75-2.5% of anaphylaxis incidents.
Anaphylaxis is a side effect that is well known by providers, broadly accepted as a possible vaccine side effect, and presents fairly rapidly. All this indicates that it is likely to be among the most accurately reported adverse events.
Harvard STUDY says VAERS only reports 1%. VAERS has been around for decades and in the past been taken seriously until the media began making stuff up.
I fear the local government and their $100,000 + yearly salary + pension retirement plans talking heads 100 TIMES MORE THAN COVID!
Yes. That is likely a true statement.
What, you think you’d like anarchy? You’re ridiculous.
Who is fact checking the fine doctor’s claim that “Vaccine immunity is expected to last for years if not a lifetime,” ?
That sounds like BS on several levels.
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Exactly Moderated. Noticed that. That is a good question, maybe the writer could let that be known.
Later on it mentioned boosters, so if it has immunity expected for years to come if not a lifetime, then boosters wouldn’t be needed.
So does the writer think it has lasting immunity or that the effect needs to be boosted by a booster.
“Vaccine immunity is expected to last for years if not a lifetime”
That is a blatant fucking lie.
“Vaccines continue to be the best, safest, most cost-effective protection against COVID-19 disease”
The vaccine is not safe….or cost effective.
“Data continues to support that communities with higher vaccination rates have seen less hospital and death burden during the Delta surge”
The vaccine cult relies on cherry picked “data”. The earliest most vaccinated countries have higher case rates, so NO, “increasing first and second doses” WILL NOT “get us closer to ending the pandemic. ADE anyone?
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States – PMC (nih.gov)
https://youtu.be/gD9YmiGVEkA
The people pushing vaccines to anyone outside of those who actually “could” benefit, need to put their house, property, or business up for collateral damage, and recognize what zero liability actually means to these pharma phucking ceutical companies.
There’s a special place hell for those who manufactured this virus, kept the border open, and then suppressed early treatment as well preventative measures that were NEVER DISCUSSED, while the media and tech platforms removed people who spoke independently. I understand their motives clear as day. I don’t agree with them, but they have a major incentive to consolidate power and control,…sociopaths can’t help themselves
The rest of the sheep with no financial interest in this are the stupid, ignorant, and pathetic are the reason why I fully support eugenics for those who want to play vaccine roulette.
If you have no discipline to prevent yourself from poor health lifestyle choices, you don’t deserve to say a fucking word to anyone else about matters of health.
If you think yourself so disciplined as to be immune from the effects of an infectious disease, you are missing checking on your mental health.
Still haven’t caught AIDS, dengue fever, or covid. Never had a vaccine for any of them either. My mental health is great! I don’t focus on things that have a 0.2% chance of killing me. Maybe you should try it?
Aunt O, (@Kym)
PP and SS are the same person using more than 2 handles @ RHBB.
Looks like he slipped here. I hope Kym has her proof of his 2 new names.
Expect the same tirades in a week or two from 2 new names, if Kym feels banning is now appropriate (again).
Ciao.
The data is very clear that this virus carries minimal risks for people who do not have certain preexisting conditions. Most of those preexisting conditions are lifestyle related.
Do you honestly believe that it doesn’t matter how healthy of a lifestyle you follow in how you will fair against this particular respiratory virus?
Oh I just love your special under the radar insulting tone. Cheap shots are your best work!
Unfortunately, insinuating that someone has “mental health problems” is not considered an insult by Kym who has used the same tact, and defended doing so.
Fact: up to 1 out of 5 of the population, including children, on any day are suffering acutely or chronically with varying degrees of mental /emotional health challenges. Mental health is nuanced ; liike a sprained ankle, or amputation; there are varying degrees of disabling affects.
Anyone that uses mental health or mental health challenges as a go-to when having a discussion is painfully unaware.
Making a mockery of someones mental state, without being asked , or having the fucking qualification –as in being an actual psychologist — because you disagree with them, says lots more about you, than the person to which you are referring.
The stigma and shaming around mental health is one of the last bastians of overt hatred that’s still in vogue…. If being snooty and insulting is your thing .
Fully agree, especially about a special place in hell for these people. The data is screaming in their faces and they ignore it and now want to vaccinate children. A special place in hell, indeed.
Agree.
If ADE were the issue, people who had been vaccinated (or for that matter previously infected) would be getting sicker. But they are not. They are much more likely to be less sick, not to be hospitalized and a much smaller percentage end up dying than the totally unvaccinated. But it is worth finding out how many of those who b die thought they had been previously infected and thought they were therefore now immune?
“If ADE were the issue, people who had been vaccinated (or for that matter previously infected) would be getting sicker. But they are not”
If you understood ADE instead of pretending to understand it, you would realize that NO, previously infected people would NOT be the ones getting sicker, at least not initially.
In due time you will likely be as wrong about this as everything else you have been so abismally wrong about.
“Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), sometimes less precisely called immune enhancement or disease enhancement, is a phenomenon in which binding of a virus to suboptimal antibodies enhances its entry into host cells, followed by its replication. Suboptimal antibodies can result from natural infection or from vaccination.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement
“Furthermore, ADE is an acute problem, and it can be very dramatic. If it was an issue with these vaccines, we would have spotted it by now, said Brian Lichty, PhD, an associate professor in pathology and molecular medicine at McMaster University in Toronto. “It’ll kill you quickly. In all the places I’m aware of ADE happening, it is an acute, mostly cytokine-driven event,” he told MedPage Today. https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91648
“…as of 18 March 2021 there had been no observed incidences in human vaccine trials. ADE has been observed in vitro and in animal studies with many different viruses that do not display ADE in humans. Nevertheless, anti-vaccination activists falsely cite ADE as a reason to avoid vaccination against COVID-19.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine_misinformation_and_hesitancy#
If people would not swallow whole misinformation from anti vaxxer sites, they would not be abysmally wrong themselves.
When you have the facts, argue the facts. When you don’t have the facts, pound the table……with wikipedia links-LOL
Thanks. Particularly agree with the first 2 lines of the comment, excellent analysis. The author might consider their oath of “do no harm,” not “it’s the most cost effective.” Can’t believe they put the cost effective thing in there, but they did.
The Humboldt County Health officer is lying to everybody and it’s super obvious because all you have to do is look up legitimate statistics of what’s going on and you can see for your self.
These people in control bank on us not legitimately researching things for ourselves and going along with whatever they say because they are “the leaders”.
That’s how they control you. That’s how communism works.
Oh, please! Give the world your own personal alternative legitimate statistics so they can see them too.
Make up your minds, are we now Nazi America of are we Communist America ?
Gee, look who’s pedaling FEAR…
Fascism or any government run by a dictator. Communism is actually a noble idea that took a wrong turn into a dictatorship in Russia
Communism may seem on the surface to be a noble idea but it is just another of the many bad ideas that needs dictatorship to function. Too often a goal is used to dazzle the eyes when, not only it is not a good goal, it is one where pursuit is even more damaging than the evil it seeks to correct.
The time for creating a community to act against a selective problem is long gone.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Children ages 5 to 11 will soon be able to get a COVID-19 shot at their pediatrician’s office, local pharmacy and potentially even their school, the White House said Wednesday as it detailed plans for the expected authorization of the Pfizer shot for elementary school youngsters in a matter of weeks.
Federal regulators will meet over the next two weeks to weigh the safety and effectiveness of giving low-dose shots to the roughly 28 million children in that age group
Maybe people would trust the Government more if they stopped lying to the Population. Variants: Breakthroughs….Stop lying with your terminology designed to make us think we did something wrong or there was some act of God.. Its called a genetically spliced virus, designed to be resistant to antibiotics. They designed it this way. and we financially supported them. I will go to war with China before I get a vaccination for something that the Wuhan Lab Boasted in 2015 that they spliced SARS – COVID and 50 species of BAT GENE SEQUENCE. It was designed to kill the host. Maybe the antidote is designed to slowly kill us also. There’s nobody reading this that has any clue whatsoever what they had injected into them (and will, over and over).
Wow you are going to take on China all by yourself? Good luck with that. And you know if you fly there you have to wear a mask. Not even sure if China is allowing unvaccinated people into their country. You will have to meet them half way at Midway Island
Dr. Hoffman – a quick question nobody else is asking: What is the false positive and false negative test results for COVID. With any test as you know, you have to include the false test results in your Metrix. There is no perfect test, so what is the delta? The governments have promoted the testing to be infallible. We know this isn’t the case. So what are the numbers?
In today’s news 57% of Humboldt County residents are fully vaccinated while 43% are just plain stupid.
Makes perfect sense.
Following your logic…
Before 57% of Humboldt County residents were fully vaccinated, they were just plain stupid.
Would your statement, phrased as a question, (for all you Jeopardy fans out there), be,
“What is, “Is a person no longer “just plain stupid” just because that person got vaccinated? “, ?”
The funny part is, is that the “just plain stupid”, part of the equation, doesn’t go away, magically, until two weeks after the final initial dose, and then six months later, you magically become, “just plain stupid”, again, until two weeks after a booster or third dose.
But, take it with a grain of salt, because, for 10 more days, I guess I am “just plain stupid”.
But straightaway after that, I will be magically cured, giving free advice, and you’ll have to take me seriously, because I will suddenly become exceedingly intelligent.
I can’t wait to be able to denigrate the less than fully vaccinated so that my lightbulb will finally illuminate them.
I wasn’t worried about getting Covid19, it’s being able to insult people’s intelligence and morals that I did it for.
The jab elevator is takin’ me straight to the top.
I will be very convincing, and just think, when the very last dolt is fully vaccinated, we will all return to all being in the “just plain stupid” boat together again, where we started, and the process can then repeat itself.
We will all just keep getting more smarter and smarter, and less stupider and stupider.
Trust me, because I got vaccinated.
Can’t you tell?
Vaccinations are like seat belts. Use it because it could save your life
The headline of this article, “DEATHS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS OF THE UNVACCINATED GREATLY OUTNUMBER THOSE OF THE VACCINATED SAYS HUMBOLDT COUNTY’S PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICER, PROVIDES GRAPH” is a perfect example of why people should receive one of the FDA approved Covid vaccinations. Those refusing the vaccination may be harmful or injurious to themselves, family, friends and those around them. Save yourself, and save as many as you can through education, information and evidence. I’m not going to criticize people who have genuine concerns, but I will not stop trying to encourage folks to educate themselves about the vaccine and come forward and get vaccinated.
Could they include the data for the partially vaxxed locally?
Could they specify whether or not Covid was the reason they went to the hospital locally.?
As they encourage the partially vaxxed to complete their vaxxes, if somebody had a bad reaction to the first vaxx do they think they should get the second one?
I have asked before for deaths of partially vaccinated so far no numbers. However, about 6% of the 72% that have received at least one dose are only partially vaccinated.
The last question would be best discussed individually with one’s doctor as it would likely depend on different factors.
Under 6% of the population is partially vaxxed. Why would that small segment of the population be significant enough to be reported.
As far as hospitalizations, 180 compared to 44, would become about 169 compared to 55.
So what looks like only 24.4%, would actually maybe be about 32.5%.
Is that significant?
Split the difference and still get about 28.4% vaccinated hospitalizations, instead of 24.4%.
88% of the British are vaccinated and 78% have received at least one vaccination. A 57% vaccination rate for Humboldt County is blithe.