0 Deaths, 0 Hospitalizations; FDA Advisory Panel Recommends Boosters; Official Decision Expected Next Week

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Press release from the County of Humboldt:

An advisory committee of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) voted unanimously today to recommend emergency use authorization for a booster dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine for adults 18 and older. The committee yesterday recommended that the agency authorize Moderna boosters for certain high-risk groups.

The committee also discussed data on using a booster of a different vaccine type from the one used in the primary series, commonly called “mixing and matching, but did not make a recommendation.

The agency is expected to make an official decision on boosters for both vaccines sometime in the coming days. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is then expected to meet sometime in the next week to discuss who will be recommended to receive them. More details will be released as they become available.

10 New Cases Reported; No Hospitalizations or Deaths

Humboldt County Public Health reported 10 additional cases of COVID-19 today, bringing to 9,015 the number of residents who have tested positive for the virus.  No hospitalizations or deaths were reported.

Since the last weekly data update on Oct. 8, the county has recorded 182 new cases. Two deaths were reported during that same period, including a fully vaccinated person over the age of 80 and an unvaccinated person in their 70s.

Five hospitalizations were reported over the last week, including one fully vaccinated person in their 70s. Age ranges of the four unvaccinated individuals who were hospitalized are one person in their 40s, one in their 60s and two in their 70s.

The seven-day average case rate in Humboldt County is currently 19.9, meaning that for every 100,000 residents, just under 20 residents tested positive daily over the last seven days. The average case rate varies considerably depending on vaccination status, as illustrated by the graph below, depicting average weekly case rates since Dec. 2020 in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated residents.

The current seven-day average case rate for vaccinated individuals is 8 per 100,000 residents, while the case rate for unvaccinated residents is more than four times higher at 34 per 100,000. Though cases have fallen from their peaks, rates for both groups remain higher than any time prior to the surge in late summer. View a more detailed depiction of the case rate graph.

Chart showing case rates (per 100K) since December 2020 with the unvaccinated case rate at 21, vaccinated at zero. Unvaccinated case rates climb to 29 in January, down as low as three in April, then up to 26 in mid-May, while vaccinated case rates never exceeded three. On June 15, when COVID restrictions were lifted, the unvaccinated case rate was 13 and vaccinated case rate was zero. Then by mid-July, cases for everyone began to climb. On August 7, a local mask mandate was put back into place requiring all individuals over the age of 2 to wear a facial covering in public indoor settings and crowded outdoor settings. The local case rate for unvaccinated people rose to a high of 83 residents per 100,000 but has since declined to 34. The case rate for fully vaccinated individuals reached a high of 29 in early August and has declined to 8.

Health officials continue to urge residents, particularly those who are unvaccinated, to get tested if they are experiencing symptoms or have been in close contact with someone who has tested positive for the virus.

Testing is available through OptumServe seven days a week at the Wharfinger Building in Eureka. Mobile testing sites are scheduled throughout the county most weekdays. For more information about testing, go to humboldtgov.org/covidtestregistration.

The county’s vaccination and testing services are available free of charge. Appointments for Public Health vaccination clinics are not required but are recommended due to an increase in demand for additional doses and boosters.

Residents who receive their first or second dose at a vaccination clinic located at a Public Health facility in Eureka, Willow Creek or Garberville can choose a $25 Renner Petroleum or Coming Attractions Theatres gift card. Incentives are offered on a first-come, first-served basis.

Sign up in advance at MyTurn.ca.gov. For instructions in English and Spanish on how to use My Turn, go to humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo.

See the schedule below for specific clinic dates, times, locations and available services:

Miranda — Saturday, Oct. 16, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. 
South Fork High School (6831 Avenue of the Giants)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Eureka — Sunday, Oct. 17, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
College of the Redwoods (7351 Tompkins Hill Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Eureka — Monday, Oct. 18, 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Main Office (529 I St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
No testing available
$25 gift card for those receiving a first or second dose

Weitchpec — Tuesday, Oct. 19, 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. 
Yurok Tribal Office (CA-96)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Willow Creek — Tuesday, Oct. 19, 3 to 5 p.m.
Public Health Office (77 Walnut Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available
$25 gift card for those receiving a first or second dose

Garberville — Wednesday, Oct. 20, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Office (727 Cedar St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available
$25 gift card for those receiving a first or second dose

Orick — Thursday, Oct. 21, 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Orick Elementary School (120918 US-101)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Trinidad — Thursday, Oct. 21, 4 to 7 p.m.
Trinidad Town Hall (409 Trinity St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Eureka — Friday, Oct. 22, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Veterans Hall (1018 H St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Check availability of a specific vaccine at local pharmacies at vaccines.gov, or text a ZIP code to 438829 to locate a nearby pharmacy offering vaccines.

Pfizer is authorized for those 12 and older, and Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are authorized for people age 18 and older. County residents age 16 and 17 can receive a vaccination at a Public Health clinic without a parent or guardian physically present as long as they have a signed consent form. Children under 16 still must be accompanied by their parent or legal guardian.

View the Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download data from a previous time.

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 707-441-5000.

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov
Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard
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ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago

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e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

You forgot to turn off the invisible ink option on your keyboard…

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

Covid may be winding down but the tyrannical Biden administration is just getting started.

Safe and Defective
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Safe and Defective
2 years ago

Safe and Effective?

Lots of definitions getting a make over

e fox
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2 years ago

https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wire/2021/10/new-york-times-report-moderna-vaccines-wealthy-countries/. Over the weekend, the New York Times reported that Moderna, the Massachusetts-based pharmaceutical company that is producing the most effective COVID vaccine, had shipped almost all its doses to rich countries—more than any other pharmaceutical company with a vaccine on the market

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Oh so it’s time to be mad at big pharma again ?

lol
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lol
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Things are not as black and white as you try to convince yourself they are.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Yep

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Country Joe
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Country Joe
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

You cannot believe the biased and partisan New York Times…

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/10/the-vaccine-mandates-are-working-and-people-are-mostly-keeping-their-jobs/ detail: The vaccine mandates are working, which means that people are getting vaccinated and staying employed. But, as we have learned, for many people the facts don’t really matter very much when it comes to most things COVID-related

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Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago

I wonder how much longer it will be until the entire population has natural antibodies to covid 19…

There are currently 44 million known cases . The cdc says there are 3 maybe 4 more times as many cases which brings us to about half the population having natural antibodies….. 1 out of every 2 Americans has natural antibodies.
Think about that …. Oh yeah and another half are vaxxed or both

Seems like this shit show should start winding down soon huh

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Going off of the cdc estimate for infection fatality rate, if we have 700,000 deaths that would indicate between 175 and 210 million total infections

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Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

Wow. According to that idea, at worst we have only 140,000,000 people left to infect and, if the covid trivializers are right, only a 100,000 or so deaths to get through. Totally worth them dying to get rid of all those petty nuisance masking requirements, right? And vaccines? Well let those 100,000 die gasping for breath as soon as possible and eliminate the surplus population as Scrooge would put it.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

The ifr should be significantly lower now that so many people have been vaccinated so your dire predictions aren’t likely true unless the vaccine doesn’t reduce mortality risk.

For that matter, there’s probably more infections represented by the last 100k deaths so there are actually likely fewer people that haven’t been infected.

Also, why do you get so upset anytime discussion of the government data on infection fatality rates is brought up?

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Yep. Should only take another year and a half. You’re going to be exposed to covid 19 whether you like it or not.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

And you think we can stop that from happening, super contagious, airborne virus, according to science. The old frail vaccinated elderly still die when infected, the vaccinated still spread the corona. Now tell me exactly, how are we going to stop the flu ?

Guest
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

There should definitely be a pre established lower threshhold at which point the nonsensical overreacting stops.

Selenium Surfer
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Selenium Surfer
2 years ago
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rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

 “Seems like this shit show should start winding down soon huh”

Not necessarily. As the efficacy wanes the vaccinated cases may start to spike as it did in other early, highly vaccinated countries.

Note to vaccinated: stay the fuck away from me!

lol
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lol
2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

The unvaccinated are a far greater risk to be around.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

Zero , oh my God, I want a recount.

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

🕯🌳It was stolen, I say, I was cheated. 🖖🖖

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago

Kym if you don’t know the answer to this could you ask at the next press conference;

If I get a positive test, and then get retested some days later (possibly because I need to show my work or some institution a negative test as follow up to the confirmed case) and test positive again is that counted as one case or two cases?

Thanks

Selenium Surfer
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Selenium Surfer
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

mb.ntd.com/more-die-after-vaccination-than-from-covid-19-in-taiwan_688004.html

What do you make of this?

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Why? You don’t like meditation? Or resisting totalitarian communist governments?

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Wow. Probably not a good idea to insinuate your readers are racist or homophobic or have sympathies to those ideologies. Especially if you’d like those donations you keep asking for. 🤦🤡🌎

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

😆🤣😂

🙃🤡🌎

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“Find the same information in a non crap site and I’ll look at it”

You mean like Mother Jones? This is just proof that you have ZERO interest in the truth. The sites that DON’T report this FACT coming outta the Taiwanese health department are the ones YOU consider credible. More irony from the left.

Taiwan death from COVID-19 vaccination exceeds death from COVID-19 (medicaltrend.org)

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“doesn’t that at least make you pause?”
 
No, I don’t rush to conclusions. Doesn’t mounting evidence of inadequate vaccines killing/maiming large numbers of people make YOU pause….. and consider doing a little digging before you develop an opinion?

 Scientists ARE working on making edible, mRNA vaccines, that can be eaten in lettuce. Now, don’t you feel foolish or is UC Riverside not a “credible” source? 

Grow and eat your own vaccines? | University of California

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“Ouch, you got me!”

At least you can admit it. There’s hope yet.

“if you used credible sites more often people would take you more seriously.”

I believe most people use that as an intellectually lazy excuse. The same libs who incessantly warn about big pharma are now suddenly in bed with them and can ignore the fact that the vaccine companies ALL employ former FDA officials, spend billions on media advertising etc.They also ignore the FDA/CDC VAERS information that is SCREAMING warning signals for anyone who cares to look.

If the same people who believe the FDA/CDC in every other instance suddenly find them not credible when it’s convenient (VAERS), no “credible sites” will exist for them.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“I try to always acknowledge when I’m wrong.”

I would like to believe that but there is ample evidence that this vaccine is dangerous and you refuse to look into it. You reason away the death of a 15 yr old child, you justify calling Ivermectin horse medicine and you claimed Ivermectin was a dangerous drug.

I feel like there was no way to wriggle out of the mrna lettuce or you would have.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“I did say Ivermectin was a dangerous drug in context of taking it outside of a doctor’s supervision.”

That is NOT what you said, PROOF that you don’t or rarely admit any wrong.

And no, I don’t trust the FDA. I will post a link in a more relevant thread, where someone may find it useful.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Mother Jones comes from a definite and obvious point of view, but its stories usually are thoroughly and credibly reported, with proper and transparent attribution

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Same shit you said about Snopes. Do you belive that if you type a statement on a blog that it magically becomes a fact?

e fox
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2 years ago

Falun Gong means Dharma (law) Wheel Practice in Mandarin. It a system that combines Buddhism, mysticism, and exercise, but also touches on aliens and ethnic separation. https://www.businessinsider.com/dragon-springs-falun-gong-upstate-new-york-compound-photos-2019-9
Different article: US news outlets aligned with Falun Gong, a religious movement locked in a decades-long conflict with the Chinese state, have been increasingly successful in promoting conspiracy narratives about Democrats, election fraud and communists to the pro-Trump right in America.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/30/falun-gong-media-epoch-times-democrats-chinese-communists

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thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Do you know if anyone has made any effort to quantify how this impacts the total case count?

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Ha you and me both, but I’m trying to outsource mine to you!

I wonder if the situation is changing as unvaccinated people move in to a space where they may face weekly testing fairly regularly. Is the county worried that this will give an inaccurate picture of the local situation, giving an increased impression of actual cases as well as a diluted impression of case fatality?

I’m curious kym, what circumstances would have to transpire for you to decide to stop posting daily updates? I ask and immediately realize it’s likely whenever the county stops issuing daily press releases. So I suppose, what’s you’re guess for when we drop this issue as a community?

Anyway, hope everyone is getting ready for the glorious rain we’re due for next week. I’m looking forward to seeing some creeks flowing and rivers up.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’m not requesting that you stop posting anything, I’m asking for guesses on how much longer our collective attention stays focused on this topic. I see it as the most pressing issue at the moment because I see an effort to use it as a lever to give more aspects of our life over to state control. If there weren’t a persistent effort to coerce, demand, and potentially force everyone to accept a particular medical intervention I would happily move on from the topic. Until then I do feel the need to use my voice to advocate against handing our bodily autonomy over to state health beaurocrats.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Unfortunately I think that you are correct that our collective attention won’t stray until there is some other crisis for it to focus on.

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago

🕯🌳Its funny how it works out like that. 🖖🖖

Weirdness
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2 years ago

So I just found out u test positive for covid when have the antibodies..so I went to a testing site tested positive … i have the antibodies for covid there making me test every 3 days Togo see my baby born in the hospital its there policy testing positive every time adding to the number of positive cases. How many of the positive cases are from people with the antibodies.i know 5 of them are going to be me

North west
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North west
2 years ago
Reply to  Weirdness

You funny weirdest

FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago
Reply to  Weirdness

Nope

lol
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lol
2 years ago
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Not how it works

Country Joe
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Country Joe
2 years ago

I’ll be receiving my J & J booster dose just as soon as it’s available…All the best to everyone during these difficult times.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

In the past four months, there have been 90,000 COVID-19 related deaths in the U.S. among adults who opted not to get vaccinated.

A study published this week found that in September, COVID-19 was the second leading cause of death in the U.S. overall, The Washington Post reported

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Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
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0 deaths ,0 hospitalized, I hope all the younger crowd that was pushed by the older crowd to get vaccinated have no long term health issues. But if they do, you vaccine pushers will be the biggest disappointment of the century, truly disgusting act with zero benefit to the young person. Lamedemic for the younger crowd.

e fox
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2 years ago
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Physicians working in Covid hot spots across the nation say that the patients in their hospitals are not like the patients they saw last year. Almost always unvaccinated, the new arrivals tend to be younger, many in their 20s or 30s. And they seem sicker than younger patients were last year, deteriorating more rapidly

“We’re now seeing people in their 30s, 40s and 50s — young people who are really sick,” says Dr. Vishnu Chundi, an infectious disease physician and chair of the Chicago Medical Society’s COVID-19 task force. “Most of them make it, but some do not. … I just lost a 32-year-old with two children, so it’s heartbreaking.
Tell his wife and child what a lamedemic it is. Jesus wept!

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Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

The younger fatality rate hasn’t changed, which makes your statement false, or a lie, whichever you prefer.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

The state reported another child died of COVID-19 in Louisiana on Wednesday, the second death of a child in under a week.
In all, seven of the 16 deaths of children have come in the last three months, since the fourth wave of the pandemic began in early July.
Few have been more vocal or outraged by these deaths than Dr. Mark Kline, the physician-in-chief at Children’s Hospital New Orleans.
“Children are being put at risk for serious illness and death by unvaccinated adults,”
https://www.wwno.org/public-health/2021-09-23/covid-19-deaths-in-children-are-mounting-heres-what-you-need-to-know

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e fox
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2 years ago
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/05/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html
n this latest wave of Covid-19, particularly down south, there have been thousands of children hospitalized.” And, frankly, it’s an embarrassment in a developed country to have even 100 children, like we’ve had, die of infectious disease that’s preventable,” Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research Director Dr. Peter Marks said in a town hall hosted by the Covid-19 Vaccine Education and Equity Project.
“and frankly its an embarrassment”

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e fox
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2 years ago
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According to the latest data from the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) another 225,978 children were officially infected with COVID-19 and at least 20 died in the last week alone. Since July 1, a staggering 1.47 million children have been infected, 4,561 have been hospitalized and 145 have died.
Over 100 children have died from COVID-19, or roughly three children a day, in the last five weeks in the US. 9/21/21

e fox
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2 years ago
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PORTLAND, Ore. — More people age 29 and younger have died from COVID in Oregon in the last six weeks than they have during the entire rest of the pandemic, according to numbers posted by the Oregon Health Authority (OHA).
The numbers are relatively small, but no doubt very important to the friends and families of those who died.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/younger-people-covid-deaths-oregon/283-dedc6620-e030-4f1d-be17-729570f83f28
The numbers are relatively small, but no doubt very important to the friends and families of those who died.

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rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
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Odds of surviving covid for 0-17 yr old=99.997%

Rational Ground – Clear Reasoning on National Policy for COVID-19 » Perspective: Look Up Your Risk of Dying of COVID-19

Maybe one of you genius statisticians in the vaccine cult can FINALLY tell me the odds of dying from the vaccine that you know NOTHING about and incessantly push anyway.

And what’s the deal with myocarditis? And dose relationship? To age… hmmm | Academic (i-do-not-consent.netlify.app)

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Exactly.

joe jack
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joe jack
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Hey you need to link reputable sites. Not site’s that are proven lier’s

e fox
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2 years ago
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I’m sorry I didn’t realize you were the comments monitor. Please give me a list of the news sites “you” think are acceptable

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
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As of October 14 ,2021 ,still 95 percent of all covid fatalities over 50 years old. Not a younger crowd threat, 0 -17 been at 500 fatalities for months. 500 deaths in 2 years out of tens of millions in that age group ,just down right disgusting and selfish to ask them to vaccinate .

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

🕯🌳The flu started off the same way for 20 years it only effected the elderly then in the 70’s came the H1N1 virus and it started killing children. Not to put a damper on anyone’s Parade but maybe by lowering the vaccation age limit there trying to get a head start on what they hope won’t happen. 🖖🖖

joe jack
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joe jack
2 years ago

Or maybe just making sure they are life long big pharma customers sick and weak

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

When the media pushes panic, people will start taking their kids to the hospital for the flu. Ridiculousness. Oh yeah, little Johnny was real bad sick , covid is going to have long term affects, what doesn’t have long term affects? Crack me up.

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e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Would you go up to a person who’s child just died from Covid-19 and tell them to their face “it’s just a lamedemic” I see a black eye or a broken nose resulting.
Note: I am not advocating violence against anyone

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Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

There are only 500 of those people in the US out of 330,000,000 million people! Ridiculousness , cut the fear .

joe jack
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joe jack
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Maybe do you know any

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
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This link is to an interview with a medical doctor ( the only one in his State) who will not get vaccinated and was fired. It is the clearest explanation of the psychology of those unmoved by reason yet. This doctor, who BTW says he’s not an anti vaxxer having had a couple of other vaccinations, doesn’t, like many of the anti vaxxers here, latch onto the typical anti vaxxer rhetoric. He thinks covid is a bad disease, he doesn’t believe that anyone being paid to lie as argued often repeated here, wears a mask when in the presence of patients (though not all the time when others are around), he says he doesn’t tell people not to get vaccinated, thinks the unvaccinated are flooding the hospitals.

For him it comes down to thinking of himself personally as not really being at risk from the disease because he has no comorbidities, feels the vaccine might have unreported risks AND he resents like hell not being respected as much as he feels is his due over his decision about not getting this vaccine should be unquestioned. He is one angry guy for all his surface calm. As usual with anti vaxxers, it is all about him, his feelings and his choices. Not one mention of what he owes to his fellow employees, no worry about what the damage he might impose if he’s wrong. His being wrong is not a question he even thought about until the reporter directly asks him. Maybe a useful attribute in a doctor who could be crippled by remorse over the inevitable mistakes that emergency room generates but not an arrogance that doesn’t allow for this effect on others to be considered. No. His risk in dealing with infectious disease is the coin he believes has paid for his right to choose not to get vaccinated. That no one has ever been recorded as having a vaccine related health problem with any vaccine more than eight weeks after getting it so there are millions of examples of people vaccinated without issue doesn’t matter. He has what should be just the normal hesitancy over something new but set that into stone by self importance that anyone would dare to disagree with him. That is the bottom line for all such. Reason can’t overcome resentment.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/fired-piedmont-er-doc-explains-why-he-refused-vaccine-mandate

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Nailed it.

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

You are not responsible for anyone else’s safety. Only your own. If you think getting vaccinated accomplishes that goal, go for it. Quit asking others to do so. It’s not their responsibility. Berating others for not making the same choices as you have, is folly.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Lol , bullshit. Even in this county only 6 people under age 50 have died from the virus this whole time.

burblestein
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burblestein
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

The statistical table e fox links to shows 517 deaths just among minors. So now, who’s the bser?

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  burblestein

Who’s the bullshitter? All the doctors efox refers to if they think that’s a number to panic over.

It’s pretty much the least of any child’s or parents worries compared to everything else children die from.

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Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Yes correct according to the county dashboard

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Yes your right “only” 6 in Humboldt County. But let’s continue to look at the big picture. And was the “bullshit” comment necessary. I just provided you with a link, didn’t try and insult you. And exactly what we’re you calling bullshit? It helps if you explain things.

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Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Yet the people who constantly repeat any questionable allegations and spurious arguments they run across in order to dissuade others from getting vaccinated don’t seem to troubled at all. Even when this propaganda has caused a number of deaths by frightening those who clearly benefit from vaccination.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

It’s like you said, it’s all about them, as witnessed in these threads since the beginning. The tantrums over masks and the ridiculous resistance because no one is the boss of them was just the beginning .

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

I have never said anyone has died of the vaccine but long term affects are unknown, fact!

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Soon we’ll have vaccine mandates for all the kids in K-12 schools

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

Just like the county employee mandate? Crack me up, the covid scamdemic is petering out. Good luck with the mandate on schools ,FUHS been in person for last year and a half, what 4 cases , pathetic, why mandate squirrel? None one dead at fuhs, mandating drugs that aren’t needed is the American way .People need to take less drugs and accept reality .

Antiwoke
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Antiwoke
2 years ago

Are you stoked on that?

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Well said Lone Ranger.

Selenium Surfer
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Selenium Surfer
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

COVoid RELATED?

Which is obviously another way of saying its a CO FACTOR, or Co morbidity in the cessation of life, yet where’s the other things that were obvious health issues for these dead people?

Trouble with the current state of people’s minds, is they seem to think all the other causal factors of death are not important, and to a large number of people, that is a great indicator of bias.

Covid originated in China, and Dr Fauci fought to keep the travel ban from being in stated when it could have prevented the spread through USA.

What’s disgusting and demoralizing, is the fact that so many people think that those things don’t matter to why we are so selective in our information gathering approach to WHO is to blame.

Now, it’s just the fault of the unvaxxinated for every death.

Epidemic of the lack of critical thinking.

No wonder Humboldt can’t solve murders.

Every murder in Humboldt is the fault of the unvaxxinated.

Sound’s like a pandemic of the uneducated

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lol
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lol
2 years ago

. . . full of sound and fury . . .

Selenium Surfer
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Selenium Surfer
2 years ago
Reply to  lol

I dropped my binky:(

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

I like you!

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Self love is important…

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

At the current covid death rate, it will take 27 years to kill 1% of the population, let the fear go, just let it go, this flu is over.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Country Joe

If you require a booster every 8 months it isn’t a vaccine

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Very recently the definition of “vaccine” was changed to fit their agenda.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/sars-cov-2-like-viruses-found-in-bats-from-laos-research-shows.html Another https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02596-2

“I am more convinced than ever that SARS-CoV-2 has a natural origin,” agrees Linfa Wang, a virologist at Duke–NUS Medical School in Singapore

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No. You just changed your personal definition of vaccine to fit your rhetoric. Experts in the field of immunology, even the very few anti vaxxers among them, call them vaccines.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Guest is correct, Mr. nooo.
Mr. nooo, you are incorrect.

Actually, the definition has changed twice, I believe, since 2015.

Most recently, I believe, in 2020.

🤔🧐 The funniest part, though, is, that you thought, “Guest”, was actually me! 😁

Maybe I should just change my name to, “Vaccines”, and then all these so called “Experts in the field of immunology”, of which you speak, would have to call me “Vaccines”, as well.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Talk about living in fear…

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Funny how the chicken littles try to gaslight everyone who want to get on with their lives by telling them that “ THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE AFRAID !!”

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

🕯🌳You can see it in there texts. 🖖🖖

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

Except for the numerous death bed conversions that want the vaccine when they are sick and in the hospital. What they had before was the fearlessness of ignorance.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

You’re citing 2 or 3 digit number of cases there. Anecdotes. Even post vaccine availability, the vast vast majority of people who have passed away are elderly and/or ailing.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

The fear, it’s palatable….

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

How stupid to you have to be not to fear a disease that can land you in the hospital, unconsious on a ventilator being hopefully flipped like a fast food hamburger to keep from getting bed sores? This is a rhetorical question because the fear of it, does, despite the protestations of not being afraid, cause anti vaxxers to take animal wormer from a feed store to keep the disease at bay or show up an infusion when they think they might be getting sick. All the puffery and bombast doesn’t change the fact that those who are afraid of vaccines are quite willing to abandon their insencerely held faith in their sovereign immune systems when reality knocks on their door.

joe jack
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joe jack
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Reality if you are old, if you are sickly and in and out of the hospital, on multiple prescriptions (drugs) the cov will probably kill you

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Do you fear influenza? It can do those same things, and does, every year to tens of thousands of people. This virus was, in 2020 and 2021, maybe 5 times as dangerous as a typical flu season. So where is your line? At what point is someone a complete idiot for not taking all possible preventions? Is a double flu season bad enough? A triple? Anything above typical?

Have you ever made the wrong choice and not gotten a flu vaccine when it ended up being a flu season so bad it crossed your threshold? Or is the standard you set that anyone who accepts more risk than you is an idiot and anyone who accepts as much or less is thoughtful?

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

How stupid do you have to be to ignore vaccinated case rates soaring in early vaccinated countries while pretending the dog shit poison you’ve been pedaling is working? How stupid do you have to be to ignore a VAERS system with a THOUSAND fold increase in adverse events and deaths? Pretty stupid. Religious even. Some would call it a cult.

Here’s some reality knockin on your door

https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1449390419737993227/photo/1

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Here’s some more reality knockin on your door. Had a tropinin test lately?

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Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Nailed it

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

🤔🧐I’m “afraid”, all right.
I am “afraid”, that you may have been duped, by an imposter.😁

Pretty scary.

In thirteen days, I will be fully vaccinated.

Then I will pretend to still be unvaccinated, if asked, just to hear how all the idiots will respond.

Does that sound like I’m living in fear?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
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Oh wow, apparently you have time for silly games. Carry on…🙄

DELLIB
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DELLIB
2 years ago

0 deaths and hospitalizations= Now it’s time to comment! I have dealt with this FEAR conundrum for the last year and a half! Still don’t know anybody affected by this! Maybe it’s time to lock everybody down and beat them senseless telling them there is a problem with global warming! WTF when are people going to wake up…

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  DELLIB

You tell us, when are you going to wake up?
That you don’t know anybody affected by Covid proves that global warming is a fallacy and every one should punish themselves?
Hmmmmm…

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  DELLIB

Says the thinking that celebrates paying off of massive credit card death by going on a spending spree. Pandemics of respiratory viruses come in waves. Maybe this was the last one. Maybe not. The short sighted rejoice prematurely. The long sighted are more cautious.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

“The short sighted rejoice prematurely. The long sighted are more cautious.”

I know right, I can’t believe these people rushing to get a novel pharmaceutical injection less than a year after the tech has been deployed. And whats worse, they feel the need to shame and treated anyone who feels more comfortable waiting a bit to see how this product performs in the real world!

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

Yes. Indeed. New fangled horseless carriages can kill people. God did not mean us to go that fast and nothing good can come of it. Imagine putting explosive gasoline in an engine and sparking it into fire. It will never catch on.

Well, if you find vaccines too scary, you can always think of it as a very small monoclonal antibody infusion that is feels safer.

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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Haha, cars did kill way more people per vehicle at first. It took a long time for us to fully understand the impact and implications of “Horseless carriages ” and they were an endeavor for the daring in their early years (and a threat to the innocent public who didn’t want or couldn’t obtain them).

You can have your shots. I don’t even object to subsidizing them with my tax dollars. I believe that our tax dollars should go to offering basic services that our community wants, even the ones that we personally don’t avail ourselves of. I wish more dollars from my taxes went to actually feeding and housing the people in my community, even the drug addicts.

All I’m asking in return is that I have my basic rights respected, including to partake or not, of a particular pharmaceutical intervention. We know from the clinical trials published by Pfizer that the unvaccinated face an infection risk just north of 1% over a 9 month period. If we open back up and get crazy and call it a 20x increase we’re only looking at 1 in 5 per year, inevitably coming down as exposure and natural immunity comes in. Seems like the simple ask to stay home or mask up if experiencing any symptoms could easily mitigate most of that risk. It doesn’t have to be a fight. I’m not actually asking anyone to do anything

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  DELLIB

Thanks.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

If P comes before Q – than Chris Steele’s “golden shower” dossier of Trump may be true.

😂

Happy Sunday!

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

You in Japan?

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

…. Unprompted, Trump brought up an unsubstantiated claim he had interactions with prostitutes in Moscow before he ran for president. “I’m not into golden showers,” he told the crowd. This at a private speech he gave at a Republican retreat on Thursday 10/14/21. Still dumb as ever…..

Martin
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Martin
2 years ago

Look at the graph. Unless you are color blind it is plain to see people need to get their vaccine shots. What in the hell are you waiting for?

FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago

National Academy of Sciences research arcticle from Sept 7, 2021. Excess deaths in the U.S. may have risen as much as 50% between March 2020-March ’21. This is the real tally of mortality in the US based on all causes. 50% more dead in the country than there otherwise should’ve been in a year based on all causes. This accounts for people dying from complications post illness, those not accurately recorded deaths in the first wave, undetected asymptomatic cases that later died of heart attack or stroke with cardiac complications from being unwittingly infected. No numbers or infection speculation about if they were riding a motorcycle or not. Just death certificates. 50% more than normal. Great time to be in the mortuary business. Banner year! Seems completely harmless except people are dying at an unprecedented pace…
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/36/e2107590118

joe jack
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joe jack
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

According to life insurance company’s they haven’t seen more claims then usual in the last year

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  joe jack

And which one of your reputable news sites did that come from? What type of insurance claims are you talking about, death, auto, flood, fire, etc etc etc

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A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  joe jack

Correct, there hasn’t been an increase in the life insurance claims in the last year.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  A.

Oh and this from New Zealand “Covid-19 has had a major impact on the life insurance industry, with significant increases in claims for income protection, retrenchment, death and funeral claims. ” https://www.iol.co.za/personal-finance/insurance/theres-been-a-huge-spike-in-insurance-claims-showing-the-importance-of-income-protection-f12d67f2-c19b-4fce-ba89-84c17b41213b

Of course, for insurance companies in the US the risk of paying out death claims is somewhat countered with have less annuities to pay out. “Insurers also can mitigate against catastrophic mortality risk by controlling their mix of business. They may limit their in-force business to certain mortality risk tolerance levels. Mortality risk also can be offset by employing internal hedging strategies to their mix of business. This is most commonly done by taking on more longevity risk through annuity products. Premature death of annuity insureds during a pandemic serves, to a certain extent, as a natural hedge against rapid claim increases for life insurers. ” https://content.naic.org/cipr_topics/topic_pandemics_and_covid19.htm

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  A.

When are you going to start backing up this information. So far all you’ve done is say you think it’s true

FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago
Reply to  joe jack

I wonder what percentage of the population has life insurance policies? With everything else going on in 2020 there were probably many less life insurance policies active since many are tied to employment. Are you saying all those extra death certificates are forged? Where’s the data? Crickets…

joe jack
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joe jack
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

Crazier things have happened

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  joe jack

Do you have any reality based link for that being true? I know applications for new policies have increased but haven’t seen anything but this that said claims increased by 75% in Canada. https://www.investmentexecutive.com/news/research-and-markets/life-insurance-claims-related-to-covid-19-increase-amid-second-wave/

joe jack
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joe jack
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Fucking old people pushing their bunk drugs and their closed minded thinking on everyone.

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

He appears to be just blowing smoke. He can’t back up his claim.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

I don’t think that study is saying what you think it is saying. It isn’t speaking to more deaths than reported. Its 50% more than we “could have” had if we were more similar to the 5 European countries in question

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

Does excess deaths really support your agenda, suicides from lockdowns, spousal abuse due to poor financial living conditions, child abuse and so on. How many people been found dead mysteriously around Humboldt this summer, covid deaths no, covid related due to financial impact or anxiety created by panicked media ,probably. Excess deaths ,caused by panicking.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago

October 16, 2021
The Unvaccinated Are Looking Smarter Every Week
By Thomas T. Siler, M.D.

(snip)

First, let’s address the intelligence of the unvaccinated. Vaccine hesitancy is multi-factorial and has little to do with level of education or intelligence. Carnegie Mellon University did a study assessing vaccine hesitancy across educational levels. According to the study, what’s the educational level with the most vaccine hesitancy? Ph.D. level! Those can all have been awarded to liberal arts majors. Clearly, scientists who can read the data and assess risk are among the least likely to take the mRNA vaccines.

The claim that there’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated is, therefore, patently untrue. As a retired nurse from California recently asked, “Why do the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that did not protect the protected in the first place?” If the vaccine works to prevent infection, then the vaccinated have nothing to worry about. If the vaccine does not prevent infection, then the vaccinated remain at some risk, and the unvaccinated would be less likely to choose a vaccine that does not work well.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/10/the_unvaccinated_are_looking_smarter_every_week.html

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Dr. Thomas T. Siler is a small town doctor with no hospital affiliation. And by small town, I mean Port Orchard, WA, which if you are unfamiliar with it, takes ferries or a long trip around the Sound to reach Seattle. I think I’ll listen to those who have spent decades in the actual field.

Don’t you think it’s a bit odd that he’s publishing his opinions in a political blog?

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago

Predictable lib response when you have no argument: the doctors just a hick, American Thinker is far right/not credible. Then you ignore that the study the “hick” quoted came from Carnegie Mellon.

You lost

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

Seriously. When they got nothing they attack the source. Weak af.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

Lol

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago

Decades in the field?

Well then, censored and debased by Kym, Vanden bossche is your man!!

zerohedge.com/markets/vaccine-expert-vanden-bossche-calls-immediate-halt-vaccinations-says-it-encourages-variants

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago

🕯🌳I know that ferrie I was in the Navy up there and lived in Port Orchard. Nice place. They drive around from the ship yards to Seattle is very long. 🖖🖖

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
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Anti vaxxers are all on the same Merry-go-round of thinking through issues. They keep zipping right pass the brass ring of better chance not to die.

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Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Some people have decided to accept the 99 percent chance of survival , especially people under the age of 40. If you don’t like those odds then you can get your vaccine.

I got mine because I’m not a spring chicken anymore and i like to travel and i also have to work . I don’t have time to be sick from Covid or any flu for that matter. People should be able to make their own choice.
Grandma should go get vaccinated if she’s scared.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

The “better chance to not die” is the same every day , and no crazy mRNA lab-rat act needed!

The real brass ring; grab it. I dare you.

-Managing BMI (obesity is #1 risk)
-Staying active (exercise stimulates viral resistance )
-Eat low on the food chain of primarily whole and unprocessed REAL FOOD.
-Include abundant sulfuric veg like garlic onion and brassicas (feeds gut biome which is directly linked to immune response. )
-Limit salt (inhibits viral resistance)
-Abstain from alcohol (inhibits viral resistance) * and abstaining from tobacco goes without saying.
-Boost with SUPPLEMENTS Vit C , D3, zinc and a good multi.
-Be open to a Power Greater Than Yourself (some call that power God) on which you can rely in times of vulnerability.
-Immerse yourself in nature : Sun, wind, mountains, rivers and sea.
-trust and believe. (Fear and stress inhibit immune response)

Safe and Defective
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Safe and Defective
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Who is the test subject here?

Natural Immunity with 250k years of practice?

Or something that no one can be held liable for if it injures, or even kills you?

You can complain either way, but hey, the Amish haven’t been wiped off the face of the map.

Amish or Fauci science guru?

Feels like another installment of the Prometheus Franchise….how many stupid people gotta die to reinforce the screenplays assertion that there are lifeforms who like playing engineers with life.

Art mirrors life, life mirrors art,

The fact that there are movies that teAch you how the evil genius’ think should stand as a sign.

you’ve been warned.

In this gAme, that leaves them off the hook.

Wally
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Wally
2 years ago

media.communities.win/post/P4dAc98Y.png” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>JUST IN – Delta Air Lines ditches “divisive” #COVID19 vaccine mandate, CEO Ed Bastian announces
Good, now what to do about all those workers who feared for their jobs and already got the death jab?
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A.D
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A.
2 years ago

“Nearly 40% of California state workers are unvaccinated against COVID despite Newsom order.”

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/the-state-worker/article254974997.html

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago

https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download

I don’t know what to make of this document. On page 14 it very clearly states that Comirnaty contains “optimized codons to enhance antigen expression ” in addition to the amino acid chains that code the antigen (spike protein). This appears to be a distinct change from the BNT162b2 shots by the way the document is written.

I thought that the whole “the approved shot isn’t the same and isn’t available ” trope was ridiculous, but now I’m not so sure. It definitely appears that this fda document is stating that the approved Pfizer vaccines contains additional ingredients.

“COMIRNATY and BNT162b2 (V8) have identical amino
acid sequences of the encoded antigens but COMIRNATY includes the presence of
optimized codons to improve antigen expression. ”
pg. 14, second paragraph under the heading Nonclinical Toxicology

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