Mendocino County Public Health Officer Says It’s ‘Way Too Early’ to Consider the Benchmarks for Rescinding Indoor Masking Mandate
Woman in mask indoors. [Can Stock Photo]
However, Mendocino County Public Health Officer Dr. Andy Coren told us that at this point it is “way too early for me to predict what will happen in the next few months–let alone to set expectations to remove masks.”
Some of the variables he said that will influence when these benchmarks will be identified include, “if our cases continue to decrease through the holiday season, [if] no variants of concern emerge and our hospitals are not stressed.”
Dr. Coren said the jurisdictions represented within the Association of Bay Area Health Officials where these benchmarks have been established are far different from Rural Association of Northern California Health Officials that represents Mendocino, Trinity, and Humboldt Counties. Two key differences between the jurisdictions that are influencing Dr. Coren’s analysis include “Our region’s vaccine rates and compliance with health orders are lower while our case rate is higher.”
We reached out to Public Health representatives in both Humboldt and Trinity County to get their thoughts on the consideration of these benchmarks to lift the indoor mask mandate
Meriah Miracle, a Public Information Officer for the Humboldt County COVID-19 Joint Information Center, could not provide a specific response to our inquiries and instead suggested the question be asked at Humboldt County’s virtual news conference next week.
Trinity County’s Public Health Branch Director Marcie Cudizol told us, “We will be meeting internally to discuss the metrics to be used beyond the case rate.” At this point, Cudziol said, Trinity County’s case rate remains high according to the CDC tracker.
Cudizol did point out a discrepancy between the CDC’s data regarding Trinity County’s case rate and the internally calculated case rate: “Our internal calculated daily case rate differs a bit from the CDC tracker which is 48/100K, this may be due to the 7 day cutoff. Our calculated daily cases sit as 43.7 per 100,000 for the 7 days 9-29 through 10-7 and constitutes a high daily case rate.”
The following are the benchmark established by the eight Bay Area counties that when met would allow the indoor masking mandates to be rescinded:
- Each participating county must be considered a “moderate” or “yellow” tier of community transmission for three weeks as designated by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
- This tier status is informed by a county’s case rates and positive test rates. The “yellow” tier case rate ranges from 10-49.99 per 100,000 people in the past seven days and a positive test rate from 5%-7.99%.
- One of the most unclear benchmarks states a health jurisdiction’s hospitalization rate must remain low, which is determined by the local health department.
- The last benchmark that must be met is 80% of the county’s total population must be fully vaccinated.
- If that metric is not met, the mandate can be lifted eight weeks after children ages 5-11 are authorized to be inoculated with the COVID-19 vaccine.
If Mendocino County were to adopt similar benchmarks as described above, the indoor masking mandate would remain in place. The CDC still characterizes Mendocino County as having a “high” or “red” tier community transmission. Mendocino County’s positive test rate stands at 6.85% and 67.9% of the eligible population has been vaccinated, as per CDC data.
Humboldt County, as per CDC data is also considered an area of “high” or “red” tier community transmission with a 6.28% positivity rate and 65.1% of the eligible population vaccinated. Another point of the Emerald Triangle would remain masked indoors as per the current status of COVID-19 in the community.
Finally, Trinty County’s community transmission is also considered “high” or “red” tier. Interestingly enough, the CDC entry on Trinity County does not have the positivity rate nor the percentage of the eligible population fully vaccinated. That being said, the red tier designation would stop Trinity County from rescinding the indoor masking mandate as well.
While the rural north awaits the right conditions to begin the conversation of rescinding the indoor masking mandate, Dr. Coren said, “[V]accines and masking are the most accessible, safest, least expensive way to protect ourselves and others in this pandemic.”
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In other words, keep wearing your white flags of surrender until everyone gets vaccinated, and repeat every 120 days… this will NEVER END!!
The Stockpiles expire in December so hurry up!!
It’s sure to “never end” if you won’t get vaccinated…
You can be sure that you will eventually be forced to vaccinate, one way or another…
Just do it. Get your vaccine.
Thanks!
You must not be in America. Experimental, synthetic, DNA changing, blood clotting and derived from aborted fetus tissue, is not everyone’s tea. Especially for a cold that you have to be tested for to know you have it and a 99% survival rate, nah… we’re good.
I’m starting to wonder if all the Catholic bullshit that turned me into an atheist by my first communion was intentional.
Not gonna end if you don’t get vaccinated? Hmmm.., Singapore after vaccinating 84% of its population
Our healthcare workers – who have now been stretched for almost two years – are bearing the brunt of the burden. If not for our high vaccination rates, the workload of our healthcare workers would have been many times heavier,” the health ministry said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/large-numbercovid-cases-significant-strain-healthcare-system-moh-154427642.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink
Thank you for posting from the website;
Memes that even Yahoo can debunk
Oh, the healthcare workers! The real heroes!! The same people being fired now? The ones that worked through the pandemic, when very little was known?
That probably already have natural immunity, and are not being allowed to demonstrate that, which they know is total nonsense! Here’s a conspiracy for you, …. In a REAL pandemic, that would NEVER happen.
And that chart of Singapore can be found in multiple places, it’s as real as rain
At this point health care workers have no business being in the health care if they lack basic logic. Total disregard of potentially passing Covid to their patients is not acceptable any more.
Maybe go be a campaign worker for Trumps reelection grift, I mean run.
Come back to health care if and when you can figure it out and get vaccinated.
I’m aware that some of you have to pretend that Covid isn’t real as a coping mechanism. You look shit up all day long and post it here because everyone else here is “living in fear”. Pretty funny…
Umm vaccinated people pass covid also. I guess you forget that very basic simple little fact. Keep on attacking people.
As usual “failing” for anti vaxxers has one meaning when talking about the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated. For the vaccinated it’s failing in perfection preventiin but for the unvaccinated there is no such mention of failing. “The data shows a higher median age of 56 years among those vaccinated, versus 39.5 years in patients who were not vaccinated. Yet, in spite of their generally younger age, 26.2 per cent of the unvaccinated patients needed oxygen or intensive care against 2.8 per cent of vaccinated patients.
The paper said: “Despite significantly older age in the vaccine-breakthrough group, the odds of severe Covid-19 requiring oxygen supplementation was significantly lower following vaccination.”
https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2021/08/22/why-the-surge-in-covid-19-deaths-in-singapore-and-what-it-means-for-the-future
Vaccine “hesitancy” is what is failing.
Gee, wierd huh? That’s not emblamatic of ADE is it?
Hey Kym Kemp, remember when you quoted this two days ago:
“The basic response is “”If [this] were happening in the real world, then we should see higher Delta infection rates among vaccinated people, with more severe disease…We are not”
And btw, your other bullshit link- Decreased SARS-CoV-2 viral load following vaccination (medrxiv.org), claiming the vaccinated carry less viral loads was from JAN! More intellectual laziness that will get us nowhere.
Actually it could be this,
vaccine mediated evolution (VME)
Lets hope its not.
Never
There is zero evidence that any segment of the modern left cares about anything other than worshiping authority, and feeling that they gain personal power by submitting to that authority, and working to force it on others.
Heard Pfizer board member Scott Gottlieb say on a radio interview that between 10 and 15 billion covid vaccine doses are slated to be produced in the next 12 months.
About 3 billion doses have been given world wide already.
Looks like the industry is planning for an excess of 2-7 billion doses this year
I just love these foolish arguments, vaccinated death vs un-vaccinated death etc…
For Humboldt, it will take mandated or even forced vaccination, but for Mendocino, which is one of the silliest places in the world, they might just have to turn over “forced vaccination” to roadblocks and “proof of vaccination” for entry to the county…
People too silly to get vaccinated is one thing, but 4.5 million deaths worldwide is quite another…
How can anyone be so non-civic-minded as to insist on not getting vaccinated? It’s completely foolish, just totally ridiculous!
In the Bay Area, right now, over 85% of the people are vaccinated, but they wear masks outside, while driving their own cars, absolutely everywhere!
I’m the one who thinks masks are ridiculous, useless and ineffectual, but then, I was one of the first to take his vaccine…
I did my part, but nobody in Northern California seems to believe in doing theirs!
The hospitals are getting a break, but all those senior-citizens who kept on working their healthcare jobs for the insurance or whatever, hell, they all suddenly decided to retire!
When every hospital is staffed with up to 50% travelers, and the hospitals are all busy, do you really want to risk being a patient?
And women keep on having babies, patients with cancer or who need surgery, and just everyone else who wants medical care has to sit there and be exposed to people who refuse to participate in the only solution we have…
Don’t try to visit your loved ones in the hospital, either, cause the doors are locked and guarded…
It’s insane, sitting there and raving about Ivermectin and Hydroxyquinoline and, heck, whatever, and tooting about percentages and all that other junk which is covered here ad infinitum, when in the end, you will be forced to take the vaccine!
So what will it take?
Do the right thing! Get your vaccine! Before you have to be forced! Because you will be…
How long has it been since your 2nd shot? Or 3rd? Hard to keep track these days. If it’s been over 120 days, then sadly, you are part of the problem. It’s all the people that had their vaccination status EXPIRE, who are most at risk right now. I hurt for those people, and I’m happy with my decision to stick with NATURAL IMMUNITY, which is more robust, and more durable than the 120 day vaccine!
New data is coming out every day which supports natural immunity, especially in children. The B memory cells are the focul point. It is recommended, however, to vaccinate children who have pre existing conditions. I have always supported vaccinating the weak and the old! Best of luck to everyone!!
Your body’s natural immune system is the best defense!! That’s why the life expectancy of people was about 20 years old and everyone died from diarrhea 200 years ago before medical scientific innovations ruined how healthy we all were.
– K. Reid
That’s quite the take! The average life expectancy was more like 30 and that was because the majority of people died very young, similar to other mammals that contend with nature. People did live longer often, Utzi the iceman was about 55 years old. Disease was heavily increased after the dawn of agriculture when people congregated in cities with poor sanitation and bad nutrition. Small groups of hunter gatherers are known for keeping disease at bay quite well. Modern medicine is mostly useful because we have lifestyles that does not match our evolutionary constraints.
You confuse being unable to record deaths with not having them. Hunter gathers had them but, without city services to create the leisure to create a system of writing and the making of records, deaths longer than living memory were forgotten.
It’s true in times prior to vaccines being available, that if people survived until age 5, they would likely have an average life span that was about 50% of the current average. People developed community living because it was safer. Maybe it favored disease spread in some cases but it also reduced deaths by violence, starvation and accident. Parsing out one factor to ignore the rest gives a false picture. It creates the almost universal fantasy of “golden ages” found in all cultures but that never really existed in any of them. People died less from disease because violence eliminated them first.
“In the Stone Age the average life expectancy was low and infant mortality high. The average life expectancy was around 35 years of age. Skeletons with injuries such as blows, chop wounds and arrow injuries show that life was dangerous. When death came it often struck down many people at a time.” https://en.natmus.dk/historical-knowledge/denmark/prehistoric-period-until-1050-ad/the-mesolithic-period/a-woman-and-a-child-from-goengehusvej/the-mass-graves-of-the-stone-age/
If you had any grasp on your personal history, like a family bible, family documents , etc, you might be startled to see that people who lived past Infancy went on to live into their 70s and 80s. That’s what my family bible shows, back to 1600s. Your average calculations is simply that. An average.
You are clearly part of a race of supermen
Some did. In fact that’s what created the respect for elders. There were so damn few of them that beat the odds, it was assumed it was because they were wise. Of course that idea has pretty much disappeared as more live to a ripe old age yet gave no sign of much wisdom.
In 1820?
Tell me you were educated in California without saying you were educated in California
TikTok familiarity is not a sign of education.
Natural immunity is neither more robust nor more durable. Natural immunity is unpredictable compared to immunity game by vaccination and may only last 30 days.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-science-idCAKBN2GY23G
In COVID-19 survivors, important components of the body’s immune response called memory B cells continue to evolve and get stronger for at least several months, producing highly potent antibodies that can neutralize new variants of the virus, a new study has found. By comparison, vaccine-induced memory B cells are less robust, evolving for only a few weeks and never “learning” to protect against variants, researchers reported in a paper published on Thursday in Nature go.nature.com/3AjGx2B. COVID-19 vaccines do induce more antibodies than the immune system does after a coronavirus infection. But the immune system response to infection appears to outshine its response to vaccines when it comes to memory B cells. Regardless of whether antibodies are induced by infection or vaccine, their levels drop within six months in many people. But memory B cells stand ready to produce new antibodies if the body encounters the virus. Prior to this study, there had been little data on how vaccine-induced B cells compare to infection-induced B cells. The researchers caution that the benefits of stronger memory B cells after infection do not outweigh the risks that come with COVID-19. “While a natural infection may induce maturation of antibodies with broader activity than a vaccine does, a natural infection can also kill you,” said study leader Michel Nussenzweig of Rockefeller University, in a statement. “A vaccine won’t do that and, in fact, protects against the risk of serious illness or death from infection.”
Vaccination uses the exact same immune system. Only there is much less risk of the first exposure killing you before your immune system kicks into gear.
There is this weird concept with anti vaxxers that somehow vaccines do what they do in some magical and fearful way that doesn’t involve the same immune system. That must be why they believe such peculiar ideas about vaccines such as an international cabal is using them to inject microchips or anti fertility chemicals.
But how can you throw the “Anti Vaxxers” in the same category of this JAB. It is, by definition, NOT a vaccine.
Naturally immunity you were born withm it’s called an immune system
OMG 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly! Natural immunity may only last 30 days???? I bet that’s from a source the vaccine cult qoutes often and considers “reputable”.
LOL! Where’d you come up with that bit of misinformation?
As opposed to the “predictable ” vaccines that were touted as actual vaccines before their 2-6 month lifespan was “discovered “?
How long is the booster shot going to work for nastradamus?
No matter how short the time the vaccines protect, how does that equate with being less effective than nothing? Which is what anti vaxxers keep going on and on about. As if what they get from “natural” immunity is better when it is just harder won. Hello! It’s the exact same immunity if a person gets exposed to infection after vaccination except that the vaccinated person has a lower risk of death or severe damage because the same immune system is now primed to respond faster. Anti vaxxer seem to assign some moral virtue out of being sicker and more likely to die. There is no glory in doing stuff the harder way by choice when the result is the same in the end.
How long is the booster shot going to last, auntie?
And I thought “she” morphed into “Guest” LOL You might be on to it! Or is “it” a BOT from Phizer?
“No matter how short the time the vaccines protect, how does that equate with being less effective than nothing?”
“Nothing” means ZERO risk of dying from vaccine, a statistical consideration that only a vaccine cult member could pretend doesn’t exist.
What are the odds of a 20 year old dying from Covid vs Shot Auntie?
“It’s the exact same immunity if a person gets exposed to infection after vaccination except that the vaccinated person has a lower risk of death or severe damage”
That is currently unknowable. And given the amount of wrong statements that you’ve made resulting in your new psuedonym, one would think you’d choose your emphatic statements more carefully.
More seriously preposterous claims from AO/NOOO.
I appreciate your response. Engaging with an self-professed “expert in everything,” (even complex and mysterious miracles like our immune response!) is an exercise in head shaking.
Some of us will have a immunity to covid for a very long time.. Dont be jealous.
Great points!
I haven’t and won’t take anything. There will be no force.
You’re cool with forced vaccinations ?
And people wonder how authoritarian governments come to power.
Lol, All you need is a little fear.
And to think you and your ilk called people “conspiracy theorists” when they predicted forced vaccinations and vaccine passports a year ago…
I’m not all that cool with force vaccination, it would be a lot cooler if we didn’t have a massive segment of our population who is profoundly ignorant. Unfortunately we have failed an education, so here we are.
Because you’ve been led to believe your vaccine doesn’t work unless everyone else is vaccinated?
What a crock of shit
To some extent vaccines do work better if everyone around is vaccinated. If there is less exposure, every immune system, vaccinated or not, stands a better chance of defeating a virus just because there is less of it floating around.
But even if it was not so, the unvaccinated increase the burden of taking care of them and, if their natural immunity totally fails, of taking care of their dependents because they get sicker for longer.
“To some extent vaccines do work better if everyone around is vaccinated.”
How’s that when the vaccinated carry similar viral loads?
Guess you missed the Singapore chart……and Israel……and UK….etc.
Time for another name change yet?
Go FISH:
Natural Immunity is superior.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2008/08/researchers-find-long-lived-immunity-1918-pandemic-virus
Profoundly ignorant 😂??? Ok Mr. natural immunity is inferior 😭😭😭😭😭
No. Vaccines use the bloody same immune system. That is the profound ignorance.
We don’t “have” an immune system. We ARE an immune system.
The instruction “code” for it was written by the Creator.
And barring a widespread uptick in death rate (<1% is negligible threat) and dramatically improved stats to back up the efficacy (immune-producing) and duration of the lab generated mRNA, spike-protein coding , there is no logical reason for most people to even consider subjecting themselves to the toxic jabs.
The pro-stabby crowd is just sad the Delta surge is (as predicted) petering out. What will they fuss about next? 😆
Very simply well stated.
“it would be a lot cooler if we didn’t have a massive segment of our population who is profoundly ignorant.”
The ironies from the vaccine cult are never ending and a constant source of amusement.
I am against forced penetration. I don’t know about you.
My biggest hang up is you still transmit the virus if vaccinated. It does reduce the severity also but I honestly feel I don’t have a reaction from covid. If I get vaccinated I can still transmit the virus so I don’t see the point. Especially if it wears off so quick. It’s hard to know for sure the data is not super consistent. It’s it that hard to comprehend why we are hesitant?
“If I get vaccinated I can still transmit the virus so I don’t see the point. Especially if it wears off so quick.”
Only a cult could read that simple and succinct bit of logic and not understand it. And that’s in addition to the RISK of the shot that only a cult could ignore.
Unfortunately thinking because you feel “don’t have a reaction” that you aren’t going to be a burden on others fails the test of numbers. In the thousands cases of infection, the unvaccinated are at least going to have been mistaken about their immunity at twice or three times the rate of the vaccinated. By some estimates, seven to ten times more often mistaken. Public heath comes in masses. Not individuals.
This reminds of the juror who announced that he was never going to find a drunk driver guilty of a crime because he had driven drunk lots of times and nothing bad happened.
That’s my point most people drive with a buzz are totally ok. You’d probably be in jail also if everyone who drove drunk was arrested.
VMG condones using force, wishes the strong arm of the law was even more mighty!
Why not do it yourself?? 🤡🤡🤡
VMG is advocating for community priorities, public health and common sense.
You on the other hand are using poorly constructed cartoons that make you feel superior to others while not making one factual point.
The history of the 20th century is the factual point, the nazis were quite fond of forcing experimental medical procedures on unwilling participants. Informed consent is a focal point of medical ethics
Godwin’s Law
Unfortunately that is not a reasonable analogy. Nazism was all about the idea that self identified superior people have a right to do whatever they want without regard to their own inadequacies. It was a government of the selfish and delusional. It misused science and religion to further that selfishness. That seems to be more akin to anti vaxxer ideology which can never acknowledge their own failures.
More 4/Chan nonsense. It’s interesting where some here get their daily dose.
That’s why they call him “Vaccine Mandate Guy”.
Foolish arguments like why get a shot if I can still carry a virus that does not affect me? Keep on attacking.
Run! Lindsey Run! Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, the right-wing Republican senator made perfect sense when he recommended getting vaccinated for COVID-19 during a recent speech at a GOP event in his state. But anti-vaxxers in the crowd responded by booing, jeering and heckling him, and liberal Washington Post opinion writer Eugene Robinson — discussing that embarrassing incident in his October 8 column — poses the question, “How dumb can a nation get and still survive. https://www.alternet.org/2021/10/journalist-wonders-how-dumb-america-can-get-during-a-and-still-survive/ Note: Alter net is a left media news site and the reporter paints with a broad brush. Disclaimer: I am not calling anyone here dumb. But I do think those people booing and jeering were being dumb and childish.
People who think others don’t have a say about a politician butting in their personal medical business can also be called dumb and childish.
Yea booing and jeering is an effective argument. Is that how you express you opinions? It’s called bullying. The good Senator also said he believes in personal choice. But they didn’t hear that because they were to busy booing and jeering. Did you even see the word “recommend” in the article. A sure sign of a closed mind in people, is that they only see and hear what they want to see and hear.
Bullying!?! As you and the Vax nannies threaten to withhold education to children whose parents refuse to compromise their children’s health to keep your old unhealthy asses safe you wanna call people bullies? Get a grip!
Those ‘parents’ are domestic terrorists now.
I am impressed. How are you getting wi-fi reception under that bridge?
What bridge are you talking about? Oh you made a funny….. quit trolling me.
Yes, burning and looting is much more professional than booing and jeering, whatever jeering is. When it fits your agenda it’s “ the good senator”, but in 99% of other issues you would call him names like racist or fascist or nazi. Glad to see that you’ve decided to support Sen. Graham. You should donate to his campaign or volunteer when he comes up
for re-election.
My use of the word good was satire. If loss of humor is a symptom of Covid you should get tested right away. Thanks for posting the other names he is known by.
I guess burning and looting is worse than being a white Nationalist domestic terrorist threatening to kill and kidnap senators, executing an insurrection on the Capitol to overturn an election, tryng to kill cops in the process, erecting a noose and wanting to kill the Speaker and Vice President. Domestic Terrorists, a plague on America. Nazi flags, riot gear, gun cache waiting in another location.
It’s called ‘resisting’ and ‘the highest form of patriotism’ when someone you approve of does it.
They have no argument other than what extreme right media tells them to repeat.
They repeat it word for word. It’s actually entertaining to watch.
The use of the word patriot has become such a misused word. Used by the far-right to explain their actions and the military-industrial complex to further their agenda. The Pentagon is asking for 715 billion [yes that’s 715 billion] for its 2022 budget. The Patriot Act, tea party patriots, Oath Keepers,
I am confused as how you lump The Patriot Act in with the Tea Party and The Oath Keepers.
The Patriot Act wants to strip your liberty and the others want to preserve it.
The Tea Party was originally created to stop the bail out of the big banks during the ’08 financial collapse. Is it wrong to fight big banks? Do they not have a stranglehold on the world’s economy?
And the Oath Keepers were created to hold our elected officials to their “OATH” to uphold and defend the Constitution” . It seems to me that somewhere along the line our trusted representatives have forgotten their pledge. Is it wrong to adhere to the document that this country was founded on? Would you toss it in the wind and hand this country over to the UN and thusly be governed from here on out by unelected bureaucrats?
But please forgive me, I’m just an uninformed plebe that doesn’t watch TV news.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Tea-Party-movement
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/oath-keepers
You are not confused, just misinformed.
Oath Keepers are nothing but a violent White Nationalist domestic terrorist group hiding behind fake patriotism.
Can you spare three minutes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyaxEwOrUyY&t=2s
For boobtube? No
It’s an Anti-Flynn effect crisis.
Now you tout the special recommendations of…….. senator Graham. Thought you knew he was a bought and paid for dipshit politician?!? And now you tout his lawyerly expertise in….. medicine. Listen man, you might as well get Ronald Mcdonald to tell us how healthy big macs are. LOL!
I see President Biden’s infrastructure bill will include much needed repairs to our nations bridges.
That’s great. What’s your point? Just out trolling around?
Like everyone else here?
I just came back from Modesto. The only place I had to wear a mask was in the movie theater. I saw some elderly people wearing them around town, but for the most part people weren’t doing the mask thing. Grocery stores, retail stores, gas stations… not requiring them.
Yes in southern ca as well, it’s about a 50/50. Masks are optional. Crazy how all the Humboldt outlaws are so submissive. Once you get to the hot parts of the state, the mask just becomes silly. In Vegas, most people wear them down on their chins, as more of an exercise, and a sign of respect. Time to ditch the silly masks, they don’t work!
Wearing a mask down around your chin is not a sign of respect, it’s quite the opposite.
That’s because people living in those large urban areas are so used to breathing in auto and industrial pollution, that Covid doesn’t effect them as much. Or it could be that they are fully vaxxed and think its OK. Which is a mistake as far as I am concerned.
No they actually have lower vaccination rates in fact. Their behavior can be explained entirely by their political bias.
If no one asks me to I don’t wear a mask and it has nothing to do with politics
Good for you. Either do I. If everyone did it and made it a pain in the ass for the mask cult, they would give up.
More like common sense
“entirely by their political bias.”
That’s not correct. Are you trying to claim to know the political bias of all covid vaccine hesitant individuals?!
Only a sith speaks in absolutes.
-Obi-Wan
Oh wow who knew breathing in exhaust fumes protected you from
“ the plague “
Jesus I was kidding. Please don’t start inhaling exhaust fumes. It is very dangerous. You can die from carbon monoxide poisoning.
Yes carbon monoxide poisoning will kill people of all ages. The cov just kill’s the old and sick people
And you can die from CO2 also if you believe the “Climate Change” proponents. But WAIT! Don’t you inhale that dreaded CO2 with every breath when you put a face diaper on?
“Danger Will Robinson – That does not compute”
Is that a scientific fact, or more hyperbole? You like to express your opinion as if it is fact, very misleading.
So your immune system is more delicate because you’re cleaner. Got it.
Yes & Stanislaus County (Modesto) has one of the highest covid case rates in the state.
But what’s their mortality rate? Is it still 0.2%?
Just the fact that this Andy Coren character says, “Too early for me to tell… ” says all you need to know about this coward. He’s going to drag this out as long as he can. Also the fact he still calls this a “pandemic” also says he’s being deceitful.
Shasta County HHSA has reported 24 deaths this week alone, from Monday, October 4, to Friday, October 8. Of the 24 deaths, HHSA says 10 were residents under the age of 60.
The six newly confirmed deaths were a woman in her 30s, a man in his 40s, a woman in her 50s, a man in his 70s, and two men in their 80s.
Additionally, HHSA reported 118 new cases of the virus, bringing the total active cases to 538. According to HHSA’s data, there are currently 65 residents hospitalized due to the virus with 21 receiving treatment in the intensive care unit…………
https://www.co.shasta.ca.us/ready/covid-19/news/past-daily-updates
Wearing a mask is one tool in the box that is available.
Ha ha ha!
Surprised you couldn’t come up with a Yo’ Moma insult to match that intellectual stretch.
Ms Kemp appears to have deleted the comment. So don’t think The Matrix is doing strange things.
Kym, direct insult to a commenter here.
Sorry to wake you up, but I had to share this:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10158234578887197&set=a.10150925970392197
So if YOU read the internet, now YOU’RE the Doctor!
Thanks for reading the intenet!
Nots sure what you are talking about. But for sure I am not going to Facebook for any information
hmm. VMG is talking to me not you. I deleted some of my comments because they weren’t
revelent anymore, that moved VMG up
<i>Moooommmm!</i>
Redding has National Guard assistance at hospitals for Covidiots.
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO—After violating the company’s terms of service with his factually inaccurate message, local man Mitch Pennington, who posted the words “We can all get through this together!” on Facebook, was reportedly kicked off the social media platform Thursday for spreading a Covid-19 hoax. “We have taken immediate action to suspend Mr. Pennington’s account after he knowingly and willfully disseminated misinformation that suggests Americans are capable of joining together to overcome this disease,” said Facebook spokesperson Jessica Brodich, explaining that while the idea of the country cooperating in the face of adversity might seem completely absurd on the surface, the post was apparently believable enough to have been shared widely and was ultimately read by millions. “We do not tolerate users who attempt to deceive and mislead our online community by planting false hope in people’s minds. Though we support free speech, dangerous lies like ‘In the end, we are one big family’ or ‘United, we can do great things’ pose a serious threat to the public health. They deceive Americans into believing they actually have the capacity to work toward common goals.” Facebook, Twitter, and other social media companies later issued statements vowing they would only promote content that provides U.S. residents with accurate information about just how badly they messed up on Covid https://www.theonion.com/man-who-posted-we-can-all-get-through-this-together-k-1847818669
Ya, that’s because the WHO already shared their understanding that we will not get rid of covid19 even if everyone on the planet got vaccinated. For the simple reason that vaccinated people catch and spread covid and that the more people who get vaccinated the more covid will mutate. Try to keep up.
Your claim does not fit with the WHO urging everyone to get vaccinated.
The Who is not suggesting children get vaccinated, like California is
It’s not my claim. It’s a fact that has been shared by the WHO. Yes they urge everyone except children to get vaccinated while at the same time accepting the fact that vaccinations will not rid us of the virus. Look it up yourself.
They also don’t recommend booster shots to everyone. That recommendation is from Faucis CDC and is in opposition to the WHO. Takes only a minute to look up. Feel free.
The WHO is recommending everyone get vaccinated to lower the deaths and hospitalizations, which for now makes sense according to the data. I agree that elderly and unhealthy individuals should probably get vaccinated as they are very susceptible to having a severe reaction to covid.
The WHO recognizing that covid will not be wiped out by vaccinating everyone is a different and separate point. Even if everyone receives the vaccine it will still circulate and mutate. You could look it up yourself in about the same amount of time it took you to refute my “claim”.
Yea right. Control freaks.
Because they said all these would work:
Isolation
Lockdowns,
2 weeks to flatten the curve,
Ventilators,
Masks everywhere,
Rubber gloves
Masks inside
6’ of distance
No church or small business
No masks,
Oh masks everywhere
Masks inside
Vaxxed no masks,
Vaxxed masked,
One vaccine
Two vax
Two vax and boosters
And meanwhile
All for a natural occurring virus
Oh no it’s man made by the same dick jerking the worlds chains
Oh but maybe by Christmas
Meanwhile, Florida, 17 other states, many countries got Covid free by their citizens denying to be slaves.
Just to take one of the many assertions here…Florida is not COVID free. In fact, Florida is number 8 on the list of the highest death rate from COVID states. Whereas California is number 38. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/us-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-july-1.html
Florida also has a lot more old people per capita at 20 percent of the population
Quite a lot of them from the ‘vid-free paradise that is New York. Floridians north of Orlando have a southern accent. South of Disneyworld sounds like Bayonne.
Florida also has a Trump surrogate as a Governer, a large idiotic population and a large religious community.
It’s hardly a fair comparison to Ca.
Florida’s cumulative COVID-19 death rate is 49% worse than California’s. Does it have 49% more seniors?
“Higher vaccination rates and mask use indoors “have helped to blunt this fourth surge in California as compared to Florida,” said Dr. Robert Kim-Farley, medical epidemiologist and infectious diseases expert at the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health. “We are seeing better application of public health measures in California compared to Florida.”
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-29/california-vs-florida-covid-cases-deaths-after-delta-variant
Your FL narrative falling apart some more
Martin Kulldorff on Twitter: “Age adjusted COVID mortality by state. https://t.co/VsNkL3HYf0” / Twitter
More bullshit, disingenuous, cherry-picked data. Cases spike regionally (and seasonally), as you know. Those numbers were inverted just a few months ago and may revert if CA sees a spike going into winter. No matter how it shakes out you will ignore that FL has an older population, did not lock down and largely didn’t adhere to pointless mask mandates.
Tyranny !!!! Fauci is a mustering little maggot
I will not comply.
No one cares. Like you don’t care about us laughing about your positions that you call “nuetral” or based on “data”.
You didn’t comply there either bud.
Boring and selfish, nada mas.
They have to tell us in every thread. Over and over. Because we didn’t hear them the first or 200th time, or so they think.
Ullr used to talk about the left and their “toxic reaction” to most things.
He presents himself as “nuetral” and intrested in “data”.
The nutral data says masks are beneficial, mitigating efforts are worthy and vaccines are beneficial.
His reaction to the data?
Toxic.
Not only to himself, but to others.
Still no data that masks do anything:
https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/article/California-mask-mandates-delta-COVID-19-data-works-16502191.php
While you already admitted masks can be effective, you’ve also continuously portrayed mask mandates as data (to argue that they don’t work).
As I’ve repeatedly said, mandates do not translate into compliance, and are quite worthless as data gathering points.
In no mask San Diego people still wear masks.
In all mask LA people still “will not comply”.
The University of Tokyo study I used to link to showed masks slowed Covid.
You’re sneaky, that pro-vaccination article you linked to also was talking masks and the Delta variant.
Maybe Tokyo will get you a real updated study soon.
If I wanted to catch a mosquito in a chain link fence I’d wear a mask too.
Talk about toxic, you are on here pushing people to take a literally toxic vaccine. Backing tyrannical mandates is toxic.
🤔🧐, Oops!
“The Real Brian”, and “Trinity Brian”, have both misspelled the word, “Nuetral”, in exactly the same way…
Just another coincidence?
And yet again, the many characters in,
‘The Life of Brian’, have just a wee bit too much in common…
It like Ronny and Reggie Cray, both being portrayed by the same actor.
This is technically not a grammar correction.
Your humor always makes me smile in such serious times. 🙃❤
Test
Kym, did I run afoul of the rules again?
I got an “Awaiting Moderation”
notification on a comment, and it hasn’t posted.
Just wondering, as I didn’t think I had gone astray again…
P.S. Seems to be working fine again.
Yes, there it is again, above the “Oops” comment. ???
Am I on moderation again?
Try posting with a different device if you can. My iPhone acts up sometimes on here. Or try clearing browser cache.
It is less likely a glitch than it is a systems limit on posting links.
Does the link post to a different article? Find an old article and test there
Nooo,
I rarely post links, and there is no link in that post.
More likely a glitch.
It’s a glitch that happens every so often
And your comments are different? Care to explain?
I don’t come here every god damn Covid article and post 20 janky anti vaxxer “articles” under 20 different names , have conversations and answer myself, check in every hour and post some more. Seriously, some of you are over the top invested in pushing the antivaxer philosophy, completely obsessed. Why?
Get the vaccination or not. Wear a mask or not. But to come here every article and act like it’s the last chance to inject your “opinion” on this subject borders on psychosis. Calm down. We already know your opinion, been reading it ad nauseam for over a year.
Pot; meet kettle.
New name?
LOL
By the same token I think there are a few on the other side of the equation doing the same…. It sure is a spirited debate! JMO. There’s no doubt our minds are already made up!
You must care. You complain about it every chance you get. Denial is a hell of a drug…
If you actually didn’t care you would not respond.
The fact is you and those with your mindset have the audacity to believe they should be everybody’s business. You don’t. Mind your own and I’ll mind mine.
Sure, I care.
In a society, public health is everyone’s business.
60% of us are OVERWEIGHT with a whopping nearly 40% obesity rate .
Public “health” is now nobody’s business in a fat-glorifying society like we have become.
Pandemic aside, just what is the plan I wonder of all the HUGE bloated blobs at 30 for the next couple decades? What is the future looking like -in their deep fried, salt-addled minds? And more importantly, where are all the entry level workers coming from to wipe their asses when it’s obvious they will eventually be unable to?
Greed kills. No shot can save you from yourself. Step away from the drive thru line; that outside escape lane is there for a reason, to possibly save your life.
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com
This is natural.
What part of communicable disease do anti-vaxxers refuse to understand?
Mental health is a bigger concern than obesity to me, I’m worried about folks like you.
Mental illnesses are common in the United States. Nearly one in five U.S. adults live with a mental illness (51.5 million in 2019
If you’re lucky insults get you a soft Tut-Tut from kym or maybe you can hang out in detention with me for 5 months…
If you’re attacking someone’s intelligence or mental health you failed.
Communicable disease ? What about the FACT no virus (like Covid) replicates in us independently? It is dependent on our cells to act as host. The goal is to be a bad hosts.
The learned helplessness and non stop victim hood of the pro stab people is pathetic. Maybe that’s natural for some.
And to address your rude claim: remember mental health patients are not HOGGING 80%+ of all hospital beds with inflammation and shitty immune response because of their bloated status.
Not that kind of health. There’s no money in that.
Healthcare is an industry and in order for it to work it needs disease.
Diseasecare might be a more appropriate term.
Commoditized Symptom Management.
Get ready for health care futures markets. Its always the goal to turn industrial output into a fungible asset that can be traded to generate more income
Yes and the Vax nannies aren’t repetitive at all, right?
Soon enough all the unvaccinated people will either get Covid, or will lose someone very close to them. I’m afraid these are the only things that will convince some people to get vaccinated.
Gosh, I hope that works out for you.
Lets Go Brandon. Brandon Elliot The man arrested in the assault on a 65-year-old Asian woman in New York City was out on parole for killing his mother, police told CNN
Want do you hope to accomplish by dragging politics into this. Especially such non sequitur like this.
He’s trolling Connie. Trolling other people with issues unrelated to the discussion is creepy and wierd.
If evil be spoken of you and it be true, correct yourself. If it be a lie laugh at it. Epictetus. Yes I am laughing. You got your feelings hurt because I wouldn’t get sucked into some long winded argument with you. Get a grip
I think what we’re witnessing is evidence that natural selection, previously thought to take place slowly over a long period of time, actually works in short sprints – much like plate tectonics.
At this point I’m just going to wait out the detractors and hope nature sorts them out sooner than later so the rest of us can get back to normal. Some will survive and will claim vindication instead of thanking the rest of us sensible people, but at least we’ll get past it.
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It’s to that point.
You’ll be waiting a long time for this natural selection you imagine happening.
Natural selection : The dregs sink to the bottom.
Staying fat in America puts a person high on the list for Covid calamity.
People are killing THEMSELVES, with their forks!
Been close to two years. Still not vaccinated. Still alive and kicking with no “long covid.” How long til the nannies give up that trope?
To be clear…not one reputable scientist thinks every person will catch COVID even if no vaccines had been invented. Not everyone got the Black Plague. Not everyone got the “Spanish” Flu.
The reason to get vaccinated is twofold–to up the odds of not getting ill and of not dying/having serious consequences if you do get it. And to become a shield. Every person who gets vaccinated is a shield protecting those who might have serious consequences from getting ill. They help reduce a community’s viral load.
Not much of a shield if you have to get boosters every four months. 🤦🤡🌎 I’ll go the natural way, you go yours.
A shield that degrades in a matter of months.
How long will the booster shot work? Serious question. Do you or fauci have an answer to that question?
A shield? Lmao more like a silent killer who thinks viruses don’t mutate with them because they just want to believe in their dumb choice.
And how is that different than the person who won’t get vaccinated?
Simply because we do not call ourselves shields, demand others to getj abbed by guilt tripping them for spreading the variants and killing others. Is it so hard to see where we are coming from? . We just can’t really fully prove any of this yet. Yes I understand it lessens your symptoms….
Might be time to take your Xanax. Your fear is your own . The way people project all their anxiety and fretting -about a virus with a near zero chance of death, that is currently coupled with a troubling increase in infection in the vaxxed- is pure insanity! That furrowed brow and sense of dread is on you, not anyone else. Have fun wondering if you’re next, and getting the useless and potentially dangerous booster everytime you turn around. 💉
The FDA Makes Plain It Has No Intention to Enforce the Conditions of Its Own EUA Issued for Covid-19 Vaccines
As you may recall from prior legal updates, ICAN has been enforcing the FDA’s conditions in its emergency use authorizations (EUA) for the COVID-19 vaccines which prohibit making claims that these vaccines were approved as safe and effective. ICAN, for example, has successfully forced public health departments, including in New York and Michigan, to remove false claims about the safety and approval of these vaccines.
But because this is supposed to be the FDA’s job, ICAN filed a Citizen Petition with the FDA on March 29, 2021 demanding that the agency do its job and enforce the conditions it created when it granted the EUAs for the COVID-19 vaccines. This includes demanding that the FDA assure that state health departments stop making false claims about these vaccines in violation of the FDA’s EUAs. The FDA could have easily produced this result with a simple letter to each state health department asking them to not violate the EUAs.
Instead, the FDA has done nothing. Six months after filing our petition, the FDA has stated: “Because of the existence of other FDA priorities, we have not been able to reach a decision on the petition at this time … We will respond to your petition as soon as we have reached a decision on your request.”
It is highly concerning, and telling, that enforcement of its own EUAs of a novel product being promoted, administered, and mandated nationwide is not an “FDA priority.” It also seems apparent that the FDA aims to respond to this petition only after it is moot: that is, after the vaccines are licensed and the EUAs are no longer in place.
If the FDA cannot be trusted to enforce its own simple conditions for its EUAs, it is understandable that the public does not trust them on more complex decisions. ICAN will continue to shed light on the failings of our public health authorities.
To share this legal update, please use this link:
https://www.icandecide.org/ican_press/fda-refuses-to-enforce-its-own-rules-against-misinformation-related-to-covid-19-vaccines/
May the YouTube force be with you.
People are still wearing masks? I’ve only put one on a handful of times since the beginning of this crap. Never worn one for more than 10 minutes and shop at places like Safeway that don’t enforce (:
Even been infected? Ever wonder how you got infected? Not even going to ask have you worried about infecting others because that is obvious.
Weird, I’ve posted a link to this test at least 5 times and never got a response from the mask cult. Is that because they didn’t take it or they failed it so miserably?
But yeah, “the science”.
COVID Charts Quiz
Look, no offense, but I don’t read the tracts left by missionaries either.
RHBB needs a funny button. 🙂
Translation: I failed the test miserably, thereby showing ZERO correlation between masks, lockdowns and cases….. but I believe in them anyway because science.
Oh gawd, someone linked to the gateway pundit…ohhhh no far righht
Actually far wrong but whatever…
Right or wrong any credible article shows sources. So be open minded and trace the points made back to their origin and THEN make up your mind. Many questionable sources merely repeat a message from somewhere else oftentimes credible.
Pretty fucking pathetic authority worship going on here. I thought y’all were counter culture
Oh, are there rules?
And you decide who is true counter culture or not?
Yes. Authority worship is definitely not counter culture. More like boot licking.
Just landed in Cancun and am quite surprised I can’t go anywhere without a mask. NO WHERE. Drove to my apartment and into town and everywhere I went there were masks required. My brother who owns a cafe here and he said they require him to require you to wear a mask. Tourist industry is protected in every way possible.
One in five patients receiving treatments through a special lung-bypass machine since July were expectant mothers who have not had their first shots, the NHS said in a statement Monday. Even though women will have concerns about having the vaccine during pregnancy, there exists no link between getting jabbed and an increased risk of miscarriage, premature birth or illness, according to Edward Morris, president of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-11/fifth-of-serious-england-covid-cases-are-pregnant-unvaccinated