4 Deaths, 2 Hospitalizations, 35 New Cases Reported

COVID DEATHPress release from the County of Humboldt:

The deaths of four Humboldt County residents due to COVID-19 were reported today, including two in their 60s, one in their 70s and one over the age of 80. The staff of the Department Operations Center shares their sympathies with the family, friends and caregivers of those who have died.

Thirty-five new cases have also been reported in the county, bringing to 8,833 the total number of county residents who have tested positive for the virus. Two hospitalizations were also reported, including one person in their 60s and one person over the age of 80.

Since the last weekly data update on Oct. 1, the county has recorded 238 new cases. Eight deaths have been reported during that same period, including five who were fully vaccinated. The average age of post-vaccinated fatalities is 79, while the average age of those who died and were unvaccinated is 65.

Of the 11 hospitalizations reported over the last week, three were fully vaccinated, seven were unvaccinated and one is under investigation. Age ranges of reported hospitalizations are as follows:

  • 1 person in their 40s
  • 3 people in their 50s
  • 5 people in their 60s
  • 1 person in their 70s
  • 1 person over the age of 80.

The seven-day average case rate in Humboldt County is currently 22, meaning that for every 100,000 residents, about 22 people have tested positive daily over the last seven days, though that rate varies considerably depending on vaccination status. The graph below depicts average weekly case rates in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated local residents. View a more detailed depiction of the case rate graph.

Chart showing case rates (per 100K) since December 2020 with the unvaccinated case rate at 21, vaccinated at zero. Unvaccinated case rates climb to 29 in January, down as low as three in April, then up to 26 in mid-May, while vaccinated case rates never exceeded 3 per 100,000 residents. On June 15, when COVID restrictions were lifted, the unvaccinated case rate was 13 and vaccinated case rate was zero. Then by mid-July, cases for everyone began to climb. On August 7, a local mask mandate was put back into place requiring all individuals over the age of 2 to wear a facial covering in public indoor settings and crowded outdoor settings. The local case rate for unvaccinated people declined from a high of 83 residents per 100,000 to 35 before increasing again over the last week to 42. The case rate for fully vaccinated individuals has declined from a peak of 29 per 100,000 residents in early August to 8 by the beginning of October.

As the graph illustrates, the seven-day average case rate has risen in unvaccinated residents for the first time in five weeks to 42 per 100,000 residents, up from the previous week’s rate of 35 per 100,000 residents. The seven-day average case rate for vaccinated residents declined further from its peak rate of 29 per 100,000 in early August to 8 per 100,000 residents. Rates for both groups remain higher than the winter and spring surges.

While some people who are fully vaccinated will become infected with the virus, health officials widely agree that vaccination is the best way to prevent severe outcomes. Immunocompromised individuals may need an additional dose to generate a sufficient immune response. Officials urge those who are immunocompromised to talk to their primary care provider about whether an additional dose is right for them. As always, the county’s vaccination and testing services are available free of charge.

Appointments for Public Health vaccination clinics are not required but are recommended due to an increase in demand for boosters and additional doses. Sign up in advance at MyTurn.ca.gov. For instructions in English and Spanish on how to use My Turn, go to humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo.

See the schedule below for specific clinic dates, times, locations and available services:

Hoopa — Saturday, Oct. 9, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Hoopa High School (101 Loop Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

McKinleyville — Sunday, Oct. 10, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
McKinleyville High School (1300 Murray Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Willow Creek — Tuesday, Oct. 12, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Office (77 Walnut Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Garberville — Wednesday, Oct. 13, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health (727 Cedar St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Arcata — Thursday, Oct. 14, 4 to 6 p.m.
Arcata High School (1720 M St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Eureka — Friday, Oct. 15, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Wharfinger Building (1 Marina Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Check availability of a specific vaccine at local pharmacies at vaccines.gov, or text a ZIP code to 438829 to locate a nearby pharmacy offering vaccines.

Pfizer is authorized for those 12 and older, and Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are authorized for people age 18 and older. County residents age 16 and 17 can receive a vaccination at Public Health clinics without a parent or guardian physically present as long as they have a signed consent form. Children under 16 still must be accompanied by their parent or legal guardian.

Residents, particularly unvaccinated individuals, are urged to get tested if they are experiencing symptoms or have been in close contact with someone who has tested positive for the virus. No-cost testing is available through OptumServe seven days a week at the Wharfinger Building in Eureka. Mobile testing sites are scheduled throughout the county most weekdays. View the schedule and learn how to make an appointment at humboldtgov.org/covidtestregistration.

On Monday, Oct. 11, the OptumServe testing site at the Wharfinger Building in Eureka will be closed in observance of Columbus Day. However, the local Public Health testing team will offer PCR testing on that date at the Azalea Hall in McKinleyville from 9 a.m. noon and from 1 to 3 p.m. Pre-registration is required. Visit home.color.com/covid/sign-up/start?partner=cdph1060 to sign up. The Joint Information Center will be open and available to answer non-emergency calls related to COVID-19 from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.

View the Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download data from a previous time.

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 707-441-5000.

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Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard
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e fox
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2 years ago

During a lengthy virtual meeting on Tuesday night, the Eureka City Council unanimously approved a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for all city employees, requiring that all employees be at least partially vaccinated by Oct.19 and fully vaccinated by Nov. 23.
https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2021/oct/6/eureka-city-council-approves-vaccination-mandate-c

thinkthenact
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thinkthenact
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Good!

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  thinkthenact

Mandates

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The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

Don’t get it.

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Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Same! They should dissolve the country
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Wally
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Wally
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

Cool Aid.

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Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  Wally

😂😂😂😂that’s great , especially for a kid from the 80’s

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

The IQ and estimated lifespan of your white new country might be equal.

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I’m guessing you might not need the hundreds of thousands of service men and women who still haven’t gotten the jab despite the deadline approaching. Why should people be willing to defend American philosophy when half the population are pathetic wannabe tyrants that celebrate cramming down the largest real-time medical experiment in world history? Why don’t you go enlist?

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

List of vaccinations required by the Army. https://usarmybasic.com/about-the-army/army-shots

And when ever did the military care about your personal philosophy about anything…

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

BECAUSE! That’s why. Trust Fauchi – Trust the science. End of debate.

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Progs are quite authoritarian.

dianna
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2 years ago
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Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

What a silly comment from a supposedly educated medical professional. Imagine if she said “why treat those whose illness is self imposed?” Which is basically what she was saying if the untruths are taken out it.

Ash
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Ash
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

There was no real discussion, both county and city are obligated to comply by finding they have accepted.

Bricelander Salamander
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Bricelander Salamander
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

SO.. mandatory injections of experimental of “new definition of vaccines” DNA RNA therapy thingy.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Thank God.

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Was this in response to Biden’s* Executive Order?

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

LA County sheriff says he won’t enforce the mandate within his department. Will Sheriff Honsal?

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

I believe Honsal has already required deputies to wear face masks. But this being a different matter all together, who knows. He is elected so they can’t fire him, but deputies and staff are hired so…..

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Guest
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Guest
2 years ago

62.5% post vaccination deaths?

Ruh Roh!

How do you explain that?

I wonder how many post vaccination deaths that makes now?

Anybody keeping track?

HSU grad
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HSU grad
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

remember that people are counted as “unvaccinated” until two weeks after their second shot

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  HSU grad

But approximately 6% of around 55+- isn’t that much difference.

6% of all the (55+-) comparable unvaxxed deaths in Humboldt is probably around 3.

Sure it will change the relative percentages some, that’s true.

And 62.5% post vaxxed deaths is for just the last 8.

But that must put us over 20% post vaccination deaths. (Just a guess)

Mendocino is 13 post vaccinated deaths out of 33-36 Covid19 deaths, since their first
post-vaccinated death, 36.1%
to 39.4%

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

And if you have any adverse side effects or die within the first TWO WEEKS of getting your final jab you are NOT COUNTED as fully vaccinated. Talk about fudging the numbers. And at what cycles are the soon to be discontinued PCR tests? False postiives are common over 33 cycles.

Bricelander Salamander
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Bricelander Salamander
2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

The whole population of Israel is now non-vaxxed because they have to get the third shot.

Obliviously
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Obliviously
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, while you’re asking questions maybe ask which vaccine that ones that died received.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Obliviously

The Moderna vaccine was 100mg, while the Pfizer vaccine was 30mg. Though I don’t know if there was a difference in efficiency. Though the Moderna still hasn’t been approved for a booster yet. Because of the higher first dosage?

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2 years ago
Reply to  Obliviously

The first post vax Covid19 death was associated with the J&J.

That is the only reference to vaccine type that I saw, out of the 13 that I know of.

Bricelander Salamander
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Bricelander Salamander
2 years ago
Reply to  Obliviously

Lol

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Your welcome.
So, not 95 yrs old, but 86? Hmm…
So, Doctors do make mistakes?
🤔🧐 And I was right all along?
What are the odds of that? Hmm…
Call me a fact checker…

Thank you for fact checking a claim I found to be a glaring error that was readily apparent. With the six age examples given, and taking into account reasonable life expectancy, in general, 95, as an average, was clearly, reasonably, impossible.

Is there more than 86 total Covid19 deaths now? There were 82 total, at the time.

If not, what if I told you he may have rounded up to 86 from 85.7?
And either way, that he must not be including the very first post-vaccination Covid19 death, or it would round to 85 or less? Like maybe 83?

I have that list, well, from COVID death #50 to #82, when the 95 statement was made, and up to
#86, anyway.

Painstakingly compiled, which include all post-vaccinated deaths.

I’m still only coming up with 85 yrs, tops, and that is only if the first post vax death was 75, (#51), and not the 57 year old, (#53), who I think it was, based on Dr. Coren’s published statements.

( No vax status was given for #51, #52, and/or #53, aged 73, 75, and 57, respectively, for what I think was confidentiality’s sake, but one of them was vaxxed, and was the first post vax Covid death.)

Based on Dr, Coren’s statements,
I surmise, it was the 57 yr old. In that case, the average would actually round to 83 yrs old.

Even if it was the 77 year old, it would be an 85 yr old average, tops.

“Dubito ergo, cogito…”

René Descartes

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
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👍

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,
I was wondering where he might have said now that the average was 86. Was it publicly? I haven’t been able to find were he has made that statement. Thanks.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I listened to the Covid19 update. Is that the same as the press conference? I thought he said average age of age 88, for post vaxxed deaths, for the last four weeks. Maybe I misheard him. Why it was for only four weeks I don’t know, but maybe that is the routine. I came up with 86.

That included 12, all but the first two.
He did confirm 86 cases total so far.
14 were post vaccinated deaths.
That’s compared to, I figure, about 36 unvaxed deaths. Going back to June 4 or 5.

Or compare it to 42, going back as far as March 6.

14 out of 36, or 14 out of 42, if you prefer…

14 out of 42 means,
14 vaxxed deaths, 28 unvaxxed deaths.

1 post vaccinated death, to 2 unvaccinated Covid19 deaths.

50% efficacy for death?

Vaccinating over half the people in Mendocino saved two 60+ year old people in Mendocino each month for the past seven months.

That is the effect.

Dr. Coren, when asked about whether it was ok to hug someone not in your household, said no, he would not advise it.

Drugs, not hugs?

Times have changed.

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guesst
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guesst
2 years ago
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Good job!

Bricelander Salamander
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Bricelander Salamander
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No. no-one

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

So the vaccines don’t really work for the people who needed it most ?
Jesus Christ ….

Got logic ?
Guest
Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

That was data readily available *before the vaccines were even released.*

The rapid waning, and weak initial efficacy in elder populations *in animals* was well documented.

But hey $$$$ dolla dolla! Screw the masses.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

What chance without it? Maybe percentages have something to do with risk? Maybe four or five times as many would have died without vaccination? With advanced age comes fragility. Especially with covid. The reality is that vaccination reduces the risk from covid death to the same point as an unvaccinated person 20 years younger. It does not eliminate risk. It just reduces it. Which is always better than not reducing risk.

Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago
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Steve Kirch is and he’s putting up 1 million if anyone can refute his data.

Any takers?

The debunking nature of the sheep is just mass psychosis.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

Since he is the judge of what refutes his data and he already refuses to admit the problem that it is unreliable, his offer is as rigged so as to never have to pay out.

Man Aged Decline
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Man Aged Decline
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

I think it’s difficult to think outside the box, that’s why there are no multi millionaires on this thread. They simply have a different way of looking at numbers. U think that the health of this country revolves around a pharmaceutical company, & government that uses the emergency powers granted to force a medical procedure? Why is it so Incredibly difficult to remind yourself of that critical fact that there is no liability for pharmaceutical companies or the government employees who are forcing this on the public. You fail to understand that many people are aware of the real danger that friends and family members have personally seen, not to mention those from highly vaccinated countries. It’s a great indicator of how people who suffer, suffer Alone, while the amount of EXEMPTIONS GIVEN TO THOSE IN POSITION OF POWER AND INFLUENCE While the general public who works for woke companies get fired.

The economic health of our country is in a,downward spiral, and when you finally recognize the lie that you’ve been living under, there may very well be millions of injured and dead from this.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

I think that it is almost impossible for some to even see their box much less what is beyond it. You, for example, can’t see the box created for your thinking by dodgy internet pundits. You never noticed that blood clots, strokes, heart conditions, etc existed prior to vaccines. In fact were pretty unimportant to you until you could assign them to a vaccine. You are basically a vaccine hypochondriac. You have been trained to see what they have created for you. Which would not be so damaging a limitation if you did not keep ‘witnessing’ what you don’t know as if it was actual evidence.

This level of obliviousness is clearly demonstrated by the capitalization used about something so obvious and common as the idea that the powerful, especially politicians, are self serving and dishonest about it. Well duh. When were they ever otherwise? And you just noticed it? About vaccines? How alarming that must be for you.

I, on the other hand, have vaccinated relatives, doctors and acquaintances none of who have had a serious reaction. And not a single one developed a problem they had not had prior to vaccination. But I know that is a matter of a limited data set. If I had a big enough circle- say thousands- among those would be the occasion more severe reaction. I am aware, as you should be, that this is the illumination is called statistical evidence and your’s is called anecdotal evidence. The major difference between you and me is that my personal experience aligns with published statistics where you have to dismiss (claim they are all lying) everyone else to maintain your’s. Now that is a real red flag.

BTW if you don’t want to get spit in your face, don’t spit in mine first.

Ash
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Ash
2 years ago

“Eight deaths have been reported during that same period, including five who were fully vaccinated.” So this is the second time in the last month or so that the proportion of deaths is higher in the vaccinated than unvaxinated.

Bricelander Salamander
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Bricelander Salamander
2 years ago
Reply to  Ash

Wow.. Crap i did not see this. Explains the eco-chamber in here tonight.

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Ash

More vaccinated people have died from the ‘vid than unvaccinated, and more people have died of ‘vid in the past 10 months than in the previous year, and that was with Trump rallies.

Bricelander Salamander
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Bricelander Salamander
2 years ago
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Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
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If 85% of people over 85 are vaccinated, and only 65% of the deaths are in the same group, then vaccinated people are underperforming in dying. Unvaccinated are over performing in dying. If you want to improve your chances of dying from covid, then by all means you should remain unvaccinated.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Right, it would also suggest under 24% post vaccination efficacy against death from Covid19.

Not very good.

That’s Wane City.

Using your own reasoning, if you want to improve your chances of dying from Covid19 while vaccinated, then by all means, you should get vaccinated.

For the last 8 examples, being vaccinated is associated with an increased incidence of 1.6 times.

Where are the odds makers now?

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Exactly Guest, and that doesn’t include the partially vaxxed, it’s possible all 8 of the Covid fatalities had at least 1 vaxx, though for sure at least 5 of the fatalities were fully vaxxed.

Would be nice if they could include which Covid fatalities were partially vaxxed.

They need to include the data for the partially vaxxed as well.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  A.

Since that is about 6% of the population, why would you think it so important?

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
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Even assuming your take on the percentages is right, which it isn’t, waning protection is still better than no protection at all especially in a group so fragile. The reality is that aged immune systems, vaccinated or not, are simply not as effective. But still, given that limitation, vaccines still improve the chances of not getting that sick. Why anyone would tout the benefit of being more at risk of dying is just weird.

You can’t escape the fact that “Of the 11 hospitalizations reported over the last week, three were fully vaccinated, seven were unvaccinated…” The obvious point is that, if you don’t have an very aged immune system, you didn’t need to get that sick in the first place. You could have been vaccinated and not be there at all. And if you do have an incompetent immune system, you can still do something to improve your chances.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Your right, Mr. nooo,

But I’m talking about deaths, not hospitalizations.

And on second thought, the vaccination efficacy for eight deaths, five of which were vaccinated, would not be 24%…

Because if it was evenly split at four vaccinated deaths, and four unvaccinated deaths, the vaccination efficacy would actually be ZERO% EFFICACY…

ZERO?, BUT IS ACTUALLY WORSE!

The vaccination efficacy for the eight in this example, with five post vaccination deaths, would be, actually, WORSE THAN ZERO% EFFICACY, wouldn’t it, Mr. nooo?

Thank you for calling attention to my error.

Help me out, Mr. nooo,

Five post vaccination Covid19 deaths, compared to three unvaccinated Covid19 deaths, expressed as a vaccine efficacy , would be what exactly?

It’s going to be negative, Mr.nooo.

More harm than good?

Vaccination, in this group it appears, has not improved their chances at all, it actually has decreased their chances by quite a bit… But by how much?

Would that be expressed as a
-67% efficacy?

Or maybe -40%?

I’m not sure how to figure it, aside from the fact that it is a significantly negative
percentage efficacy…

Mr. nooo. My initial estimation of 24% efficacy was incorrect.
So, what is it, in your opinion?

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A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  Ash

Correct the Ash, the North Coast Journal reported that. Out of eight deaths in the past week, five were in the fully vaxxed.

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Root4America
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Root4America
2 years ago

It’s time to go after the woke corporations.

Stop playing nice.

Action action action,

Put your money with the companies that aren’t trying to put your local business out of the game.

ROOT4AMERICA

Bricelander Salamander
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Bricelander Salamander
2 years ago
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Word

HSU grad
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HSU grad
2 years ago

now post average weight of the dead under 80 year oldsp

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago

🕯🌳And basically in the last two weeks most of the deaths were 70 and above and most likely had other problems that the virus might have complicated. 🖖🖖

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago

Been that way for the last 80 weeks Willie

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago

Say that again louder. I can’t hear you through your mask.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Connie Dobbs

That’s cause I have 3 on since I’m a disease filled flat earther who hasn’t accepted my government shots yet.

A.D
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A.
2 years ago

You’re an alive person who makes excellent comments.

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Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Connie Dobbs

Huh? WHAAT?

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago

True. Nice of you not to care about them. But the real kicker is the people who, if they been able to get vaccinated, were unlikely to die at all for years. You know, the 150,000 under age 65 or the other 150,000 under age 75?

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

It has nothing to do with not caring about anyone. Preventing all death is an idiotic objective. Death is an inevitable end and a necessary part of existence for the dynamic homeostasis of this system we are a part of to be maintained.

If a novel health threat predominantly is killing people who are very nearly matched with the typical ages of mortality in our society then what sense does it make to call it a life altering emergency and radically disrupt everyone’s lives over it?

We have a massive cohort (the so called baby boomers) approaching and reaching the typical ages of death. We are going to see a rise in per capita mortality as this large cohort dies over the next decade and a half (on average) and leaves much smaller populations of the age cohorts behind them.

Public health policy can’t be made on the emotional appeal to individual deaths. If it was we would outlaw cars, guns, knives, alcohol, tobacco, refined sugar, and strictly regulate physical activity and individual weight. Each of these things is directly linked to many personally tragic deaths every single year.

And of course, if we did all of that, millions of people would still die in this country every year and every one of them would be tragic to their close friends and family. Thats why we didon’base public health in how tragic any single death is

Bricelander Salamander
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Bricelander Salamander
2 years ago

Influenza kills 400 – 500K annually from respiratory ailment alone. This does not include cardiovascular related deaths. In 2017, it was about 600,000 deaths.
Influenza disappeared in 2020. Really…it actually approached ZERO deaths.

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago

You might be on to something BS:

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Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago

Yeah that’s kinda been the reason for most of the covid deaths, that’s why 99 percent of people who get it survive .

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HSU grad
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HSU grad
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

this i correct. medical errors are also a huge factor.

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Guest
2 years ago

Willie,
So, the vaccine doesn’t mostly doesn’t work if you’re over 70 with other problems, and kind of doesn’t work if you’re under 70 and have other problems?

But they just authorized all of them to get another dose.

Is that what is causing the problems?

e fox
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2 years ago

Abe

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Antiwoke
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Antiwoke
2 years ago
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Failci Foolaid injectors… It’s ok to admit you were a bit mislead. Wake up from your wokeness. Now let’s all heal from this division y’all have caused.*

*General statement.. not aimed at e fox.

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2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Yep.

thetallone
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thetallone
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

If Abe was alive today, he would never make that statement. Real facts don’t matter anymore. It’s all about finding facts to fit your own bias.

Bricelander salamander
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Bricelander salamander
2 years ago

New York Times issues massive correction after overstating COVID hospitalizations among children

https://archive.vn/VduVD

The thing is, corrections are run on page 6,7 or 8.
MSM is 100% lies, half-truths and deceptions. Can’t believe a single word.

Perhaps we should ban NYT links here? Who’s in charge of the ministry of truth? Snopes?

RollingStone didn’t even offer a correction or retraction it was simply an update.

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I think part of the salamander’s point is that the lie is shouted but the correction is whispered.

There are many examples. Remember when it was widely reported that officer Sicknick was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher?

The Real Brian
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Remember (every) day when Trump said the election was stolen?

Remember how it took lawsuits to shut the idiots up.

Does NYT feel threatened by lawsuits or are they actively and purposefully CORRECTING THEMSELVES?

Alex Jones has to go to court, claim insanity, then lose a bunch of $ quietly regarding Sandy Hook, and then sells you gonad-enhancers with “misinfowhores” tattooed on it…

….and it’s just another day in wing-nut town.

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Did you ever stop to consider that if he was selling sub par stuff he would be shut down by the FDA in a heartbeat? The entire MSM wants him to GO AWAY yet he remains.

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That reminds me I need to get some more X2, Krill oil, And the liquid Turmeric is off the hook. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking some up.

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Even so- and it is so- that makes the national media ever so much more accountable than anti vaxxer and conspiracy aficionados who never seem to let go of the most obvious misinformation. Remember all vaccinated people are going to die within days of getting vaccinate? Or they contain microchips? Or that vaccines cause covid?

Unfortunately for dealing with anti vaxxers, their general level of misunderstanding makes them proof against reason.

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2 years ago
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Who was saying that everyone was going to die within days? Who was saying they contained microchips? Who has said the vaccines cause covid?

This is that old strawman at work again. Was there, like, a meme about microchips or something? I could see that being an alex Jones thing maybe. Did somebody’s drunk uncle post that everyone was gonna die on Facebook?

You’re trying to lend credibility to an establishment like the Times by holding them aloft above…the dregs of meme humor?

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“Remember all vaccinated people are going to die within days of getting vaccinate?”

We’ll never know.

“In general, people are considered fully vaccinated: ±

  • 2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or
  • 2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine

If you don’t meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are NOT fully vaccinated. Keep taking all precautions until you are fully vaccinated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html

Personally, it seems the majority of adverse reactions happen in that two week window. On top of that, to report an adverse reaction is such a pain in the butt that most go unreported.

I, for one, would LOVE to get to the bottom of this but I fear I never will.

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The fully vaccinated designation doesn’t matter for adverse event reports. You can report adverse events after your first dose from the moment you receive it on. If you look through vaers reports the vast majority are in people who do not meet the fully vaccinated criteria. Most medical providers seem to only consider an adverse event if it happens within a matter of minutes of any given injection. The overwhelming majority I’ve read were reported within 24 hours of a dose

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Like bubba the nascar guy that thought someone hung a noose in his garage.. or like everyone thinking the destruction of George Floyds mural was a hate crime but it was really struck by lightning.. or like the black man who was found hanging from a tree during George Floyd riots really actually committed suicide.. or like Sasha Johnson the BLM activist who was shot in the head & it was reported to be a white supremacist hate crime but she was actually shot by black gangsters? All those situations started out being huge on the headlines & then quickly hushed swept under the rug when the truth came out. Disgusting!

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2 years ago
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Jussie Smollett.  

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2 years ago

Yep.. there’s another one. Sickening.

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2 years ago
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Exactly.

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2 years ago
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So is Rollingstones on your list?

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2 years ago
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You have got to be kidding me! You think Fox is telling untruths? Name some.

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2 years ago
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I posted it in a three day old comment section my mistake. Sorry about that i know you’re busy. Was unable to edit it after i realized it for some reason.

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It would be wonderful to be able to view your own posts here. I can delete them all but I can’t see them.

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Trying to appear as if there are a plethora of other “commenters” in agreement.
I called this game months ago and was told I was crazy, even though it’s so obvious it’s that that’s what is going on in the Covid threads that it’s pathetic.
When called on it “they” say I take the comment sections too seriously, yet how serious is a person about the comments that they have to pretend to be many different people in agreement?

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There are many people who disagree with you. If it’s more comfortable for you to imagine that everyone who disagrees with you is just one person play acting then that is your right. It doesn’t make it true though

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2 years ago

This article was shared on twitter by Robert Malone. He’s NOT the person who invented the mRNA technology used in the ‘vaccines’ but he was on the team who invented the MRNA technology.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475002100161X

“The results show conservatively that there are five times the number of deaths truly attributable to each inoculation vs those truly attributable to COVID-19 in the 65+ demographic.”

The key is this.

-The PCR test has been shown to have a very high false positive rate.

-The PCR cycles during the test were run at upwards of 40 cycles early in the pandemic. Furthermore the PCR tests will return a positive result for INFLUENZA.

-The criteria for attributing a death to COVID-19 was if someone dies WITH COVID, not FROM COVID. There were actually motorcycle accident deaths attributed to COVID.

-Influenza kills 400 – 500K annually from respiratory ailment alone. This does not include cardiovascular related deaths. In 2017, it was about 600,000 deaths.

-Influenza disappeared in 2020. Really…it actually approached ZERO deaths.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6815659/

Contrast against Uttar Pradesh, India where they distributed Ivermectin. Their vaccination rate is 5%. Within 5 weeks the COVID CASES (not deaths) dropped by 97.1%.

zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout-secret-revealed

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2 years ago

He announced himself as the inventer then admitted that was an exaggeration. But still says it when he is in an environment that won’t challenge him. Like so many who insist rely on conspiracies to explain why what they allege never proves out, his “truth” is situational.

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He has a fair claim to have been an inventor of the technology. He seems to be agreed on as the first person to discover the use of the liposome vessicle that is supposed to be crucial in getting human cells accept the foreign mrna. And he was involved in the synthesis of man made mrna from the very beginning.

Calling himself THE inventor is certainly a sign of arrogance, as it very clearly is a complex technology built on the direct work of dozens – if not hundreds- of people. But he is certainly better qualified than you or i (or the majority of humanity) to make meaningful comments on regards to this situation.

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2 years ago

Why no, he’s not in a better place than other more numerous experts who don’t confuse a doubt with a certainty. His research was over 40 years ago. And his complaints about mRNA vaccines have little to do with the innate properties of “his” discovery. Nothing about the toxicity of nano particles, that anathema for antivaxxers. No. His speculation is more about the things of which he was never involved – the content of the capsule- and has no reason to know any more than anyone else. It has also to do with the way the vaccines were authorized and on the way the adverse effects are tracked. Nothing regarding from the process itself.

Basically the man has a not unusual among researchers attidude of being totally offended by not being given the amount of credit he thinks is his due and has used the anti vaxxer circuit to grind that personal axe in the only forum interested in hearing it. And the anti vaxxers are eager to give him that opportunity because he is a least more sane than the rest of the experts they trot out. His personal jealousy has made him a tool.

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2 years ago
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Wow thats a lot of psychological protection put onto a person you have never met just to make it palatable for you to dismiss his opinion

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2 years ago
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Well at least there’s an argument that he could be the inventer. Unlike the Rollingstone piece that said the emergency rooms were overflowing. Thats just pure fake news.

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2 years ago

Almost as fake as 99% of anti vaxxer “news.”

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2 years ago

I think ever time someone quotes a positive test result the lab and the CYCLES should be included. Kinda like voter ID Oh, wait never mind. That might be construed as racist somehow.

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Word

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2 years ago

Consult your personal physician. mRNA…or not… use due diligence and discernment for risk on both sides of the decision. What is correct for some is not correct medicine for others. For many.. mRNA is the exact correct decision.

Ignore the govt. Follow you spirit. Ask…and you will know..what is the correct decision on the jab.

Don’t judge others. They are not you.

Iceland halts Moderna jabs over heart-inflammation fears

Jabbed Jesuits Catch COVID, Suffer Brain Clots

Peace to you.

Praise to Our God 5 Concert – Gadol Adonai (Great is the Lord) – YouTube

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Make your own judgement? And then proceed to point out how wrong it is? Sort of stacking the deck.

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what may be good for me…and my body… may be exactly opposite of what is the proper treatment for you.

The mRNA has had obvious good effect in some individuals. Just good old natural curve statistics… the “bell curve”… which most all nature follows… tells us there will be people on both tails of the curve that will have extreme bad reactions..and extreme good reactions to medicines.

I don’t like the “cult” aspect of the “covid-ians”. If you don’t take the medicine… your out of the govt church… no vaccine…no entry on govt property… no vaccine no ICU care…that sort of directions.

My view is that sort of forced medicine is not good medicine.

It’s just an opinion… I am not forcing my opinion on you.

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2 years ago

Data from the dashboard link in the article

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TY

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2 years ago

Iceland OUTRIGHT BANS the the Moderna vaccine because of myocarditis!!! 

They finally figured this out after about 80 percent of their population was already vaccinated and it wasn’t working anyways. Collateral damage…

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2 years ago

Again the idea that vaccines “aren’t working” depends on your definition of “not working.” Anti vaxxers have a very useful definition of “not working” for their agenda. If the vaccine doesn’t guarantee no one gets infected much less dies at all for any reason (you know, like they define VAERS as “proving” the vaccine caused 200,000 deaths) after getting vaccinated, it is “not working.” Doctors define it differently. They notice that it’s the unvaccinate who occupy the hospital beds.

88% of the over age 12 of the admittedly small population of Iceland is fully vaccinated. They have also had just one death in 2021. If Humbodt County had had a similar result, there would have been no deaths. No deaths versus the 40 (?) Humboldt has had in 2021 with its contingent of “will never get vaccinated” people. And that is with just a 30% per cent difference in vaccination rates.

The reason that Iceland eliminated Moderna, beside their close political alliance with Denmark, is that they have enough other vaccines and do not to need to risk the even the very small number of myocarditis (300 in all of Europe) with Moderna.

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The count of “positive” tests is WAY off as it does not include those who have tested at home, like the, at least 25 people I know who tested positive with home tests! All of them unvaccinated, many had no symptoms, felt a little blah for a day or two, all recovered. I was exposed to more than a few of them and being vaccinated, I still quarantined for 10 days although I tested negative throughout the course. Vax did it’s job!

Nooo
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So there are really more positive and the unvaccinated accounted for all of them?

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2 years ago

thewashingtonstandard.com/over-75-of-vermont-covid-deaths-are-in-the-fully-vaccinated/” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>Over 75% Of Vermont COVID Deaths Are In The “Fully Vaccinated” 
And the remained are either those who received their jab < 2 weeks ago, so their “vaccine”-caused death are insanely counted as an “unvaccinated” Covid deaths… or people who’ve collected co-morbidities like Beanie Babies.

“pandemic of the unvaccinated,”  Lol “Eight of the 33 deaths in September were not vaccinated.”

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zerohedge.com/covid-19/lithuanian-without-vaccine-pass-describes-life-under-medical-tyranny” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>”So Deeply, Deeply Wrong” – Lithuanian Without Vaccine Pass Describes Life Under Medical Tyranny | ZeroHedge

Here is some more data on an 85% vac area: Singapore.

The covid is raging there. It is troubling that nothing seems to stop the ‘rona… which means a certain percentage of people will end up in medical crises.

We don’t know the severity of the positives…maybe the vac’ed are just testing positive but not deathly sick.

That would be a good thing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBM_wqjX0AAVTIE?format=jpg&name=small

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Is it possible that the vaccinated are having some kind of immune system failure to the vaccine and not the virus? Is Antibody Dependent Enhancement responsible here? It seems the countries with the highest percentage of fully vaccinated are having the highest infections. But what exactly are they suffering from? It may be a variant CAUSED by the vaccine.

Ya gotta wonder if all the Doctors that actually TREAT patients were correct in their suspicions while all those with perfectly clean bleached white lab coats speaking to newscasters are spouting conjecture. Hmm There’s one name that comes to mind . . .

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One just has to look down the road to understand the puzzle.

It’s not a stretch of the imagination that if there is a campaign to disrupt and destroy our natural biological immune system, the question that strategic minds would ask …. what is on the periphery that could best fit into this evolution?

That’s correct,

Transhumanism

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/we-need-to-talk-about-transhumanism

A.D
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A.
2 years ago

That 5 out of eight of the Covid fatalities in the past week were in the fully vaxxed shows how the vaxx was working for those 8.

Rest in a peace.

They need to include the data for the partially vaxxed.

Were there any fatalities or hospitalizations in the partially vaxxed locally?

The data for the partially vaxxed, that data, which they have, which they know, should be available to the public.

A.D
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2 years ago

Of the 11 hospitalizations last week, three were fully vaxxed, seven unvaxxed, the one under investigation was vaxxed or unvaxxed?

Were any of the 7 unvaxxed out of the 11 hospitalized partially vaxxed?

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Which were anti vaxxers? Which got their medical advice from YouTube? The partially vaxxed are still under 6% of the population. The other demographics are surely higher.

Nooo
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For a doctor who touts himself as offering evidence based medicine and ethical prescriptions, that is not anywhere near evidence and taking it as a proven is unethical. Which I’ll give the doctor he doesn’t say it is. Just that it merits more research. Unfortunately he is being heard by a bunch of who routinely make leaps from maybe to “give me the drug” in 2 seconds.

At least, like ivermectin, it is relatively safe. The issue, like with ivermectin, is whether it is effective. At least effective enough to make it a treatment.