Today’s Three Deaths From COVID-19 Push Humboldt County Past Milestone 100 Lives Lost to Pandemic

COVID DEATHPress release from Humboldt County Public Health:

Humboldt County Public Health has reported the deaths of three residents over the age of 80 from COVID-19. One hundred one local residents have died from the virus. The staff of the Department Operations Center share their condolences with friends, family and caregivers of those who died.

Thirty-five new cases have been reported in the county today, bringing to 8,765 the total number of county residents who have tested positive for the virus. Two hospitalizations were also reported, including one person in their 40s and one person in their 60s.

As of Tuesday, Humboldt County Public Health and other local vaccinators have administered a total of 155,473 doses of COVID-19 vaccine. An additional 958 residents have been fully vaccinated since the last weekly report on Sept. 29. A total of 77,688, or slightly more than 65% of the vaccine-eligible population age 12 and older, are fully vaccinated. Just over 72% of the vaccine-eligible population has received at least one dose.

Johnson & Johnson announced yesterday that it is seeking authorization from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for emergency use of its COVID-19 vaccine for booster shots. The FDA’s Vaccine and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee is scheduled to meet Oct. 14 and 15, to consider requests from Johnson & Johnson as well as Moderna, which submitted initial data in support of boosters to the FDA on Sept. 1. At the same meeting, the committee will discuss data on using a booster dose different from the one used in the primary series, or so-called “mixing and matching” of vaccine brands. More information will be shared as it becomes available.

Given the level of COVID-19 transmission in the community, residents — particularly unvaccinated individuals — are urged to get tested if they are experiencing symptoms or have been in close contact with someone who has tested positive for the virus.

No-cost testing is available through OptumServe seven days a week at the Wharfinger Building in Eureka and at mobile testing sites throughout the county most weekdays. To make an appointment, visit lhi.care/covidtesting or call 888-634-1123. Turnaround times for test results through OptumServe average two to three days.

Vaccination and testing services are available free of charge in Humboldt County. All eligible residents are encouraged to get vaccinated against the virus as the most effective way to prevent hospitalization or death.

Appointments for Public Health vaccination clinics are not required but are now strongly recommended due to a recent increase in demand for additional doses and boosters. Sign up in advance at MyTurn.ca.gov. For instructions in English and Spanish on how to use My Turn, go to humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo.

See the schedule below for specific clinic dates, times, locations and available services:

Eureka — Thursday, Oct. 7, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
College of the Redwoods main parking lot (7351 Tompkins Hill Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Eureka — Friday, Oct. 8, 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.
Agriculture Building (5630 S. Broadway)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Hoopa — Saturday, Oct. 9, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Hoopa High School (101 Loop Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

McKinleyville — Sunday, Oct. 10, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
McKinleyville High School (1300 Murray Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Willow Creek — Tuesday, Oct. 12, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health Office (77 Walnut Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Garberville — Wednesday, Oct. 13, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Closed from noon to 1 p.m.
Public Health (727 Cedar St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson/Moderna
PCR and rapid testing available

Check availability of a specific vaccine at local pharmacies at vaccines.gov, or text a ZIP code to 438829 to locate a nearby pharmacy offering vaccines.

Pfizer is authorized for those 12 and older, and Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are authorized for people age 18 and older. County residents age 16 and 17 can receive a vaccination at Public Health clinics without a parent or guardian physically present as long as they have a signed consent form. Children under 16 still must be accompanied by their parent or legal guardian.

View the Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download data from a previous time.

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 707-441-5000.

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov
Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard
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e fox
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2 years ago

COVID-19 hospitalizations have dropped by half from the summer peak, as California continues to steadily, if slowly, shake off the worst of the Delta surge.

“We are very encouraged by the downward trends over the past couple of weeks, but we realize … this could change as we move into the winter and holiday season if people aren’t careful, and also if we don’t maintain momentum on increasing vaccination rates,” said Dr. Christina Ghaly, Los Angeles County’s director of health services. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-10-06/california-shaking-off-worst-of-delta-variant

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Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

No more vaccines! Enough already

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

4.5 million deaths worldwide tend to illustrate why vaccination is necessary.

Get vaccinated, even if you don’t want to!

It’s the responsible citizen, who works to eradicate disease.

Selenium Surfer
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Selenium Surfer
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

We need to ready eradicate blind stupidity. I think this vaccine is not meant to cure disease , but to social engineer the greatest change to human perception.

personally, those who don’t have the time to follow all the obvious red flags and the statements made by Fauci, Dasak, and others, that told us that there would be a surprise outbreak during Trumps Term.

sounds like foreknowledge, and proof of preplanning, and almost 2 years later, I’m completely convinced there is a conspiracy to make independent minded lives a thing of the past.

if you allow the government to coerce you into taking a drug that More and more front line doctors say has a higher reaction and hospitalization rate than just getting covid and recovering. Dr Peter Macullough said your immune system is better at dealing with the vaccine, by starting treatment early and using all the therapeutics available, instead of putting people at further risk by refusing proven protocols, and methods, and sending them home to make this a pandemic of the doctors who refuse to defy the NIHs iron grip on the hospitals treatment for Sars cov 2, a manufactured and patented virus that was created to wage war on the majority.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago

I’m pretty concerned about the mental health of the average anti-vax “conspiracy nut”…

Simple. Get vaccinated. Now you are better equipped to fight off potentially lethal infection!

Isn’t that good enough for you?

Take a break, Breathe. Feel better?

Here is something actually worth worrying about:

Over 2000 “Nuclear Devices” were exploded in “tests”, back in the day…

Now, people are getting various kinds of cancer, at much higher rates, and at younger ages!

mRNA Vaccines may soon be used to try and prevent Cancers like Breast Cancer:

https://mrna.creative-biolabs.com/mrna-vaccines-development.htm?gclid=CjwKCAjwtfqKBhBoEiwAZuesiLnGdXIR3j_7h2oMnQ40uZKm8uh72YJ4Kwo3rC7ZXV4uZRwLgO56xBoC-3EQAvD_BwE

Better you should worry about environmental pollution, carcinogenic foodstuffs, and the presence of plastics and hormones in the food and water supplies!

The COVID vaccine is not a plot to control you, but in the past, the government spent considerable energy and money while working to end life on this planet completely!

Good luck surviving COVID, and if you refuse to be vaccinated, the government will continue to find ways to force you to get vaccinated anyway…

Here’s the next way:

All persons receiving any form of “government assistance” whether UI, SDI, AFDC, Medicare or Medi-Cal, GA etc, etc, will soon be required to show proof of vaccination to receive or to continue to receive benefits!

This is down the road!

Get ready, get set, get vaccinated! Or we will force you to get vaccinated!

How’s THAT for a “conspiracy”?

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BeWise
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BeWise
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

You’re truly a psychopath.

Do you even read what you’ve written here?

You want to forcibly inject your community members? Take away their food and healthcare unless they comply?

How about a bit of compassion and empathy. There are a myriad of reasons people are disinterested in taking this vaccine and they’re all valid.

Vaccine mandates are also incredibly racist, as POC are the least vaccinated nationwide.

ok then
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ok then
2 years ago
Reply to  BeWise

Can you give three valid reasons people are disinterested in taking the vaccine? I’ve yet to encounter one.

Hugh ManateeD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  ok then

Well, I think one very valid reason is that they have already had a recent confirmed case of Covid. Recent studies show that natural immunity seems to be as good if not better than vaccines.

Sure the known risks of the vaccine are small, but why take any risk if you already have a strong natural immunity? What about unknown risks of the vaccine? I think it is unlikely that there are any, but nobody can say that with complete assurance.

Other “valid reasons” would be if they are young and healthy, the serious risks of Covid are pretty darn small. Or perhaps they just have such a strong distrust of government and big pharma that they would rather go it alone. You and I may not consider that a “valid” reason, but who are we to say they are wrong? Let them make their own decision.

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

conspiracy theorist don’t have the ability to consider anyone but themselves. Ask any of them if they have had a friend, family member or co worker die from covid. It’s a slow and painful process.

Pickeral
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Pickeral
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

Well I have had full blown covid, my dear friend passed away down the hall from me in ICU. I have lost 3 friends in the hospital. One friend saved from death by ivermectin treatments.
I will not be vaccinated, nor my children. More and more facts are coming out of so much could have been done to prevent deaths in the infected.
We need to march together as a nation again. Please look beyond government sourced and funded bullhucky.

Littlefoot
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Littlefoot
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

“The COVID vaccine is not a plot to control you, but in the past, the government spent considerable energy and money while working to end life on this planet completely! Good luck surviving COVID, and if you refuse to be vaccinated, the government will continue to find ways to force you to get vaccinated anyway…”

So you just said the government has plotted to end life completely in the past, then said the government will force people to get vaccinated against their will and you think it’s because they like us now? Are they trying to end life or save it? I’m confused.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago

Not rying to be men or insulting. You truly do sounds like you need mental health treatment. Please just consider talking with someone about your beliefs.

Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Inmates think they run the asylum.

Check out Dr Peter Breggins work

Didn’t someone say, it’s no indicator of health to be well adjusted to a sick society?

You want to experiment and bully children in school with woke educators, and CRT, instead of a curriculum that might have relevance to their lives?

Rob Ash
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Rob Ash
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

Not enough of you’re neighbors have died yet.

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob Ash

They might if this irresponsible vaccination campaign is continued. Vaccines should be used for high risk groups. That’s it. Read the UCSF study! It is the first confirmation of what was already known.. that the vaccinated are generating resistant mutants that have the potential to select for younger, healthier people. I am for vaccines, but the dangers of this program were never made clear to the public, and the potential outcomes are terrifying.

lol
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lol
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

There is no study supporting your claims. We know that viral load is strongly tied to severity of symptoms and that the un vaccinated have more serve symptoms on average.That is why the pre-publication study you are referring to was suspicious immediately.

Even if the vaccinated had similar viral loads once infected (other studies showing that is not true and pointing out that there was no distinction between viable viral DNA and dead fragments) they are less likely to become infected or reinfected.

You are smuggling in your theory about the vaccinated spreading variants, it was not part of the study, and it had been explained here several times that is not how viral evolution works. Im not going to explain it again.

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  lol

The vaccines are specifically targeted to the spike protein of the original strain. When a vaccinated person encounters the virus, their antibodies suppress what is close enough to the original, while allowing the mutant variations to replicate, thereby creating strains that can become dominant, endangering others while potentially generating more deadly strains. Perhaps focus on actually studying subjects and understanding them instead of looking at studies that you can parse properly

Littlefoot
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Littlefoot
2 years ago
Reply to  lol

If unvaccinated people have more severe symptoms I think it’s safe to assume they are going to be at home sick with that high viral load. Or are there waves of sick people walking around coughing on people that I am not seeing?

You can’t say asymptomatic spread is the problem while also saying unvaccinated people are the only ones spreading this.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

I’ve got a link awaiting approval that proves the origin of covid

Martin
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Martin
2 years ago

I hope it gets approval for print. I would love to read the link!

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  Martin

If Kym doesn’t release link then search. It’s in the wall street journal.
Science Closes In on Covid’s OriginsFour studies—including two from WHO—provide powerful evidence favoring the lab-leak theory.
“Where did Covid-19 come from? The answer can be found in the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself. To get to the truth, we need only unleash the power of science.”

Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago

Censorship is everywhere.

Enjoy the implosion of the greatest nation in the world.

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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

I fear you’re correct. Good while it lasted.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

No way. I wonder where Pfizer got the drop on the competition, as usual a day late and a dollar short, carry on .

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

DiFi.

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago

🕯🌳Who cares. 🖖🖖

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

Knowing covid’s origins is a learning opportunity to avoid another pandemic in the future.

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago

🕯🌳We already know it came from Wuhan. 🖖🖖

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

And yet we continue to have folks point out that it has not been proven in any way that makes the information available to the public. If it’s true, it should be documented and publicized. You may not care, but I do. If a bioweapon has been released, even accidentally, that is a big deal to me.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Not a bioweapon, not even close.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

If gain of function was intentionally added by humans, it is in my opinion a bioweapon.

c u 2morrowD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

yep. thus the cover up … smoke and mirrors from Chinese leaders

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Maybe it’s just a bio-tool, for bio-leveraging.

Maybe we are just being
bio-leveraged.

‘Human beings’, ‘the last great Earthly renewable resource.’

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Its the Matrix!!!!

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago

Its a tough situation because most virus that affect us originate in China, so it made sense to study the m in China. As far as gain of function research, like an y tech it can be used for good or ill.

But this is a lesson on the dangerous of gain of function research. Of course there are terrifying potentially dangers to not doing the research as well. We can all agree that China is not trustworthy enough to be a partner in this work going forward.

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

convince the Biden administration of that

Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago

Apathy and Ignorance leading the way over the cliff.

The sheep who were willing to be led to slaughter .

Martin
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Martin
2 years ago

100 poor souls lives lost to Covid-19 is not what I consider a milestone. It makes me sick and very sad to have reached this point. We need to do 100% better by everyone getting their vaccine shots now, or this is going to drag on for months. PLEASE get your shots, the life you save may be your own.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Martin

The last 3 people who’s died were in there 80s. The average life expectancy in the US is 76 even when the is no pandemic. They lived a good life .
Your government is doing this to you not anyone else.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Persons over 70 years old account for more than half the deaths from covid in Humboldt

old person
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old person
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

yeah

who cares about OLD people

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  old person

Its not about whether anyone cares about old people or not. Its about a virus being used to justify a complete upheaval of our culture that claims victims that are, on average, the same age that people were dieing before the virus.

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago

Excellent comment

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  old person

“Knock knock knockin’ on heavens door” Bob Dylan 1973

Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago
Reply to  old person

Ask the people who released the bio weapon specifically targeted to kill off old people.

Follow the money, no more SSI payouts, and for the forensically inclined look into life insurance payouts.

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago

they get SSI in China, India, Brazil ….

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  old person

Get vaxxed if you’re worried about it then. I got mine. Time to get back to normal life . You didn’t get vaxxed and died ? oh fucking well… back to reality. Can’t wait around forever. Did ya forget that you’re going to die one day anyways and it might not be from covid ?
Better start living .

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

While the glaringly obvious is omitted from this report, being over 80 years old, chances are the last three victims got vaxxed and died anyway. Oh fking well, right?

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Yep

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

chances of dying from a mass out break of covid is greater than being struck by lightening

Rob Ash
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Rob Ash
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Persons under 70 IQ account for significant portion of anti vaxxers

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob Ash

Funny how you guys pretend to feel sorry for people dying one second and then calling them low iq idiots the next.

it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated right?

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

We can’t correctly identify people as idiots and still for sorry for them when they die? I pity idiots all the time.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Maybe you shouldn’t pity idiots and move on with your life

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Us idiots are the most carefree living life to the fullest happy go lucky people, don’t pity us, we got it figured out. Not afraid to die cause we had a fulfilling life.

Connie DobbsD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

We owe it all to not fretting about how ‘your behavior affects other people,’ instead preferring to fret about our own behavior, which we can control.

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Glad to see you back!

Rob Ash
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Rob Ash
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Just the same way I can feel bad about some idiot tearing around town on a little crotch rocket motorcycle at 100 mph and then smashing head first into a telephone pole . Yes, they were being reckless and stupid but it’s still horrible.

Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob Ash

And those flooding the border, who are not required to be vaxxed

Connie DobbsD
Member
2 years ago

It’s much more cost-effective for those whippersnappers at Biden’s* CPB to submit to as many mandatory jabs at it takes to make everyone safe.

e fox
Member
2 years ago

Yea those immigrants.

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Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

You’ve just found the genetic pool most likely to be injured by the vaccine.

Rob Ash
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Rob Ash
2 years ago

When all else fails, blame everything on the Mexicans. .

Connie DobbsD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob Ash

Do you? For everything?

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob Ash

Vaccinated people are extremely dangerous. They are generating mutants and putting unvaxed people at risk. An absolute catastrophe waiting to happen!

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

Yes I am

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You apparently ignore the endless links, articles, and analysis supplied here on the work of virologist like luc montagnier and links directing you to the videos on dark horse media.

If you need every reference to the obvious disaster that has unfolded post vaccine campaign supported (by a source reputable, in YOUR opinion) you haven’t been paying very good attention.

The gist of the “unbearable crap:”

“Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees and threatening the unvaccinated.”

***This already explains why the WHO’s mass vaccination program is not only unable to generate herd immunity (HI) but even leads to substantial erosion of the population’s immune protective capacity,” he continues. “As the ongoing universal mass vaccination program will soon promote dominant propagation of highly infectious, neutralization escape mutants (i.e., so-called ‘S Ab-resistant variants’), naturally acquired, or vaccinal neutralizing Abs, will, indeed, no longer offer any protection to immunized individuals whereas high infectious pressure will continue to suppress the innate immune defense system of the nonvaccinated.”

“This is to say that every further increase in vaccine coverage rates will further contribute to forcing the virus into resistance to neutralizing, S-specific Abs. Increased viral infectivity, combined with evasion from antiviral immunity, will inevitably result in an additional toll taken on human health and human lives.”***

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/c-19-pandemia-quo-vadis-homo-sapiens

His full post, if you don’t have time to research the source I’ve provided it.

Hugh ManateeD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, I understand your frustration, but may I remind you that Covid originating in a lab was considered unsupported crap not so long ago, now it is the most likely scenario, Trumps collusion with Russia was considered a fact, until we found out it was actually a contrived disinformation campaign concocted by Hillary and the Dems with lying FBI and DOJ agents.

Facebook and other social media still ban any talk of Ivermectin or other possible cheap therapeutics. Don’t go down that road Kym, better to err on the side of freedom.

While I don’t agree with Lou’s statement, there are doctors who think it is more likely that vaccine resistant strains are more likely to develop in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated, so at least part of what Lou stated is supported my some medical professionals. That said, the majority of doctors disagree with that theory and even if true, the vaccine still is likely the safest and most effective route to limit the danger of Covid.

My argument is that Lou isn’t convincing anybody Kym. He is not a danger to society by posting his somewhat ridiculous claims. Don’t spend so much time worrying what his effect is, and go get some sleep😉

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

Campaigners for the drug point to a number of scientific studies and often claim this evidence is being ignored or covered up. But a review by a group of independent scientists has cast serious doubt on that body of research.
The BBC can reveal that more than a third of 26 major trials of the drug for use on Covid have serious errors or signs of potential fraud. None of the rest show convincing evidence of ivermectin’s effectiveness.
Dr Kyle Sheldrick, one of the group investigating the studies, said they had not found “a single clinical trial” claiming to show that ivermectin prevented Covid deaths that did not contain “either obvious signs of fabrication or errors so critical they invalidate the study”
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809

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e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

And this is where lies and misinformation can end up. A Maryland man is accused of fatally shooting his pharmacist brother who he believed was poisoning people by giving them the COVID-19 vaccine.
https://www.insider.com/maryland-man-accused-killing-pharmacist-brother-poisoning-people-covid-vaccine-2021-10

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e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

The First Amendment is designed to further the pursuit of truth, it may not protect individuals who engage in slander or libel, especially those who display actual malice by knowingly publishing false information or publishing information “with reckless disregard for the truth” Though defining truth in a court of law would be difficult, billion dollar lawsuits have been filed over false election claims as an example.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Manatee

Unfortunately allegations so off the wall that it’s a wonder anyone can believe do find a small but dedicated coterie of supporters. Things like moon landing was fake on the US government plotted the 9/11 attacks. They then spread like fungus rotting the entire structure.

People like this do not have to make sense to do their damage. They just have keep creating more doubt about things that have some doubts about them in the first place. They don’t have to convince. They just have to sow discord. Reason does not serve their cause and just double down on irrationality instead.

Thus things like more than 20%- sometimes much more than that – of nursing home workers for example refuse to get vaccinated. They then spread disease to the most vulnerable people, who in turn end up in the hospital and, having filled the beds and exhausted the staff, cause other people not to be able get the care they need. The deaths go up, people become more fearful and in turn demand politicians do “something”, which almost always an over reaction and creates more problems. And this cycle is in large part because of the these “somewhat ridiculous claims” endlessly echoed though thousands of anti vaxxer sites.

Hugh ManateeD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I won’t argue the merits of lab origin or Russiagate with you as they are actually irrelevant to my stance, but the fact that these are at least viable possibilities and that these possibilities were completely censored just a short time ago should give you pause.

Yes, without censorship people will say foolish things. I would disagree with “dangerous” as I think perhaps you give too much meaning to an anonymous blog post. I feel it is much like the justice system where we say it is better to let 10 guilty people go free rather than convict one innocent person. I find it far more dangerous to censor one truth than let 10 falsehoods be posted.

Another consideration is that you could run afoul of Section 230 protections. You are allowed to censor things such as pornography, personal attacks, etc when done in “good faith”, but when you start morphing into the arbiter of truth and censoring people for political opinions or posts that you consider falsehoods, you open the door to losing your protections as you are now directly controlling the content rather than simply being a third party host.

Just something to think about.
Again, I appreciate all the work you do on this site and all the passion you obviously have to keep it a benefit to the community😁

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I posted a link to a wall street journal article that scientifically and statistically proved the lab leak was by far the most likely origin. Why wasn’t that link allowed here? The WSJ is hardly a nutcase conspiracy site.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thanks Kym. Who knows what became of the post but it’s not the first time so guess I’ve learned that I’m not authorized to post links and won’t try it again.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Just posted link says “awaiting approval”

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ILoveplants
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Hi Kym. I also had a wsj linked comment deleted about 2 weeks ago, just a heads up

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“If you continue it without providing any support for this,”

VANDEN BOSSCHE & MALONE: COVID-19 GIANTS UNITE – The HighWire

You reject support from highly credentialed, practicing doctors while quoting lying bureaucrats. Your answer is boringly predictable and always the same: “that is not a credible source” (followed by an opposing link you haven’t read). Just yesterday you referred me to WAPO ( an “unreliable” source) as proof that Project Veritas is unreliable, even though PV is just filming people IN THEIR OWN WORDS and your link proved nothing.

 “I’m deleting what appears to me outright lies.”

Way to go. That’ll lead to the truth. Everything you disagree with appears to you as outright lies. Your incessant threats to ban people/sources for their opinion (wrongthink) is simply intellectual laziness. It’s emblematic of the current problem of censorship in our society and the path to more division, eventually authoritarianism; it’s disgusting. 

Min 18 on the video is an explanation of ADE that you won’t watch. Easier just ban people and delete things you disagree with. 

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
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Veterinary medicine was his start! Have you looked at the high standards required to become a “VET?”

You seem to have missed the part about his PHD in virology !

Vanden bossche discredited ? Prove it. More like censored, muted and cancelled. It shows an astounding lack of respect to dismiss his resume so flippantly.

“He received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany.

He has worked for several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine research and development as well as in late vaccine development.

He also joined the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer before working with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager.

At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine.

He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness.

He then joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office”

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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Would the claim…

” ‘Unvaccinated’ people are extremely dangerous. They are generating mutants and putting ‘vaxxed’ people at risk. An absolute catastrophe waiting to happen!”…

…be more acceptable?

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob Ash

IQ ,that’s about as antiquated as a college degree, crack me up, some stuck in a rut for life .

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Rob Ash

How dare you say that about over one quarter of our vibrant and dynamic new neighbors from overseas and abroad. Why, you’re as bad as Kyrsten Sinema.

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Lou
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2 years ago
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Your speaking nonsense and don’t seem like a nice person. I assume you’ve done all the research on the Darwinian selection pressures of viruses as it pertains to evolutionary pressures and the potential outcomes? Or perhaps you could thoughtfully explain the history of corona vaccines and ADE? What are the mechanisms and why does it occur? How are the experts so sure that this will not occur once neutralizing antibodies wane?
I’m waiting…. Since your IQ is high you should have good answers promptly

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Nooo
2 years ago
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ADE is a function of the virus to be able to hijack antibodies. It is a property of the virus and so far SARS-COV-2 has not shown the ability to do so. And the vaccines were designed to avoid that if it was possible because the developers were very aware of the possibility with a few other viruses. And if it was possible, the virus would do it with natural infections too as neutralizing antibodies disappear in both vaccines and natural infections. It is actually vaccines that create more neutralizing antibodies.

But the exact opposite has happened. Secondary infections to both vaccinated and unvaccinated have been almost universally more mild. Not enhanced. Even when the efficacy in preventing infection has waned, ADE has not shown up when there has been enough time for it to do so.

It is you who need to come up with an explanation as to why you think ADE would raise itself as an isssue when it has not so far. Not for people who can see it hasn’t.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Exactly, Nooo,

If ADE was becoming an issue,
due to waning efficacy, and that was leading to increasing vaccinated hospitalizations and deaths, (which were supposed to be virtually non-existent), we would be hearing about an increasing, greater urgency for the importance of additional doses and boosters, over and above what we are hearing about, concerning the urgency for initial vaccination for those who have not already been vaccinated.

In fact if ADE was even an issue, especially if the head of the CDC was already aware of it, she would be overruling her advisory committee, if they didn’t recommend additional doses an boosters, because that is the only way to mitigate and disguise it.

And that isn’t happening, either…

Oh wait!… My bad!…

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2 years ago
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This is the first year of the vaccination campaign. Most still have a fair amount of neutralizing antibodies. Like I stated above, if it does not surface by spring time in people that have not received a booster, it’s looking better, and that’s great. It’s too early to say for sure, which is why it’s on the minds of folks. Also, continuous boosters to maintain neutralizing antibodies poses its own set of serious risks.

Lou
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2 years ago
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Basically, if ADE does not surface by next spring in people that have encountered the virus again while not yet receiving a booster, than I would be more willing to drop it from the conversation. In previous animal studies ADE became evident after being exposed when neutralizing antibodies were very low. The average vaccine recipient is between 40-60% currently. When this wanes even more, the reality will be revealed. ADE does occur in natural infections as well, but not to the same extent and not as often, because of the nature of the neutralizing antibodies, targeting the virus much more holistically. It is the narrow targeting of the vaccine that could potentially amplify ADE as well as create escape mutants. Everybody says follow the science, while forgetting it has not neared its destination. And now the mandates are heading toward small children, so it’s kinda a big deal

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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

I believe that persons over 70 years old account for more than half the deaths in the world before they even thought of Covid-19.

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
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source ?

onlooker
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onlooker
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Unvaxxed account for more than 90%.

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2 years ago
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Maga “The three residents who died were all over the age of 80,” (according to the North Coast Journal), be nice to know how much over 80, did they mean in their 80’s? Over 80 could mean beyond their 80’s.

e fox
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2 years ago
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TUESDAY, July 6, 2021 (HealthDay News) — How long can a human live? New research predicts there’s a chance that someone in the world will celebrate a 130th birthday in this century There’s been a steady rise in the number of people living beyond 100 years in recent decades, with up to nearly half a million worldwide, researchers noted

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2 years ago
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How many people with a BMI of 30 live to be 80 ya think?

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2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Probably about .00033 of Americans are 100 years old or older. (111,000).

There were about 82,000 in 2016, and about 94,000 in 2019.

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2 years ago
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Odds are 78 is going to be the time to die

e fox
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2 years ago
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Oh god I am dead and don’t even know it. Is this hell?

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2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Welcome to 40. Yep 40.
40 and 4 months come Sunday.

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago
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Just for the rest of us.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Your aunt should get vaccinated if she’s worried about covid.

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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Older people have a weaker immune response to vaccination (or infection). So while they do get some protection from vaccination, they depend on other people being caring community members and getting vaccinated, even if they are not the most at risk demographic. Some of us are trying to live in a civilization here.

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2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Covid isn’t going away and not everyone is getting jabbed. That’s the reality , like it or not.

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Dr Kym? Or are you a bookie? You’re now an expert in viruses AND placing bets on the odds?

Friendly joshing, because girl you are over the top, and the edge, with all this.

Attacking the unvaccinated with your sneering “people like you” remark, casts an especially shady light on your character. Step away from the keyboard.

Mega me is correct, mass vax or not, Covid isn’t going away. Fortify yourself! And your aunties.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Ms Kemp is a highly respected journalist and community member. She received the 2018 Unsung Hero award from the Society of Professional Journalists in Northern California. May I suggest an anger mgt class might be helpful. [edit]

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Your unsolicited advice is nothing but a veiled insult. If anger need be directed anywhere it’s not at the host of this fine news site but at Fauci and the Wuhan lab.

Point being, awards not withstanding, Kym’s recent attitude of knowing what defines “Truth, “and the heavy handed discounting (censoring) of broad swaths within the scientific community that have been sounding the alarm before these injections were even broadly available is concerning and potentially dangerous.

Vulnerable portions of our community may take her word as gospel. And acting as an authority on viruses, playing the odds, and optimum health, urging everyone (including our MINOR CHILDREN) to take these non-vaccines may be beyond her skill set.

A voice of neutrality and choice welcomes everyone .

Rude insinuations that it’s “people like you” causing infections and death, divides, and creates conflict. In one thread unvaxxinated workers were basically accused of manslaughter! With no proof. Just wild speculation and finger pointing. Ridiculous dramatics, that imo have no place in a thoughtful discussion.

Much is unknown. The manufacturers themselves admit to a litany of vague assumptions and “possibilities” (using language like might, should, may, could, possible, possibly, etcetc ) regarding the effectiveness, efficacy and duration of these EXPERIMENTAL mRNA INJECTIONS.

These vials, of widely more mandatory shots, are nothing but another big pharma product. A marketable product. 196 billion dollar$ in initial contracts, and easily now double that. Huge growth to stockholders bottom line while 15 yo children drop dead from this 💩 show.

The need to be redundant here is so annoying, like talking to a wall; These vaccines provide NO IMMUNITY. They benefit the manufacturers primarily.

Your efforts to attempt to protect you, does not protect me! All the vague “but viral load” guesses, are just guesses.

And worse, through inadvertent viral pressure, creepy vaccine driven variants, coupled with the suppression of “symptoms” in the vaccinated, it literally actually introduces GREATER RISK to others, and specifically to the unvaccinated.

Thanks extended to the jabbed! You got us here. Greater the cases and hospitalizations than before the introduction of the vaccine! Because science!

In the end this rambling and useless post wont stop the tut-tutting, shaming, and crazy accusations. The Kool aid has been drunk making some drunk with a hint of self-importance, and made up authority .

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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,
Can we speak in general terms?

It seems to me, what would increase anyone’s chances of getting it, would be more about; the more that person moves through the community, than, the more the virus moves through it.

Everyone is free to modify their behaviour, in order to protect themselves.

Unlike the ever changing viral load theories, one way or another, that freedom doesn’t still need to be peer reviewed.

I am somewhat elderly, old enough to be concerned with being exposed to others who are vaccinated or not, so I limit it.

I do not expect anyone else to get this vaccine on behalf of me or anyone else, family or not.

Especially since it is temporary, and doesn’t work that well.

Can you give me an example of any other ‘vaccine’, that people were required to take, not in order to protect the recipient, but to protect the more vulnerable, who have also gotten the ‘vaccine’?

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
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Of course she can’t. The shaming “people like you” and mindless rhetoric is unexplainable. Nothing but loopy circles and ever changing sound bites, while ignoring the guy with a PhD in virology.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

In order to make the average lifespan of a vaxxed person in Mendocino 95 years old, allot of the vaxxed that have died obviously would have to have died of Covid19 older than 95.
But there was only one that was 98, and only two that were 96. That’s it.

Then, one was 94, and then the next oldest was 85, and at that point, the average drops below 95, to 93.8.
Then the ages drop to, 84, 82, 79, 77, and 66, and therefore, the average, only drops further with each one, respectively, to; 92.2, 90.7, 89.3, 87.9, and finally, for the ten, an average of 85.7 years old.
The age of the first vaxxed death, and others I could not find vax status for, but one or two more won’t change things much, and would likely bring it down lower.

After Dr. Coren made his ’95’ assertion, one more 86 year old vaxxed Covid19 death occurred.

At any rate, there aren’t 10 more vaxxed, that average 104.3 yrs old, that have already died of Covid19 previous to his assertion, that would be necessary to make the ’95 average’ statement true.

Maybe he meant to say 85?

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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

The government is killing people over 80 ?
Please enlighten all of us.

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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

That’s not what i said, don’t be daft

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

“Your government is doing this to you not anyone else”,
After you wrote about average life expectancy being 76. What is our government doing?

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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

Prolonging ineffective mandates and making life a living hell for individuals who don’t want to get jabbed including medical workers , and first responders who’ve been on the frontlines of the pandemic

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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

You think there would be no difference the death toll had we never socially distanced or masked? Why?

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

90 percent of the population didn’t “ socially distance “ , not in any meaningful way, let’s not kid ourselves.

Masking may have helped prevent large globs of spit from flying out of your mouth on to someone else’s face. Did it prevent tiny virus particles from escaping ? Not a chance unless you were wearing an N95 mask or better .

There is a vaccine now. Anyone who wants it should take it, especially old people, and also fat people because according to science that’s who the virus is really taking a toll on.

The virus isn’t going away.
The vaccines effectiveness wanes over time meaning tff he at every 8 months we will have to play this game where you end up not being fully vaccinated at some point and need a booster shot but not everyone will get a booster shot so they’ll be the scapegoat for the next variant and on and on and on.
It’s time to move on.

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

You can compare the numbers between states that locked down and had mask mandates and states that did not, and see very little difference in outcome

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

More meaningless drek. That’s a 3 month chart, missing several states, and tells us nothing.

If lockdowns and masks worked their would be a CLEAR correlation and you would be able to pass this test.

You won’t take it, because you can’t pass it, proof there IS no correlation.

COVID Charts Quiz

Lou
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

A 90 day survey does not tell the story. Only the tale of the latest delta surge.
It conveniently leaves out states such as California, New York, New Jersey which have the most restrictions and results which place them in the middle of the pack. At least I remember California was just ranked 32nd in the nation for deaths per 100,000. Almost 2 years into the pandemic, do you think a 90 day survey that does not include all states sets the narrative?

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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Well now you answered the question. I guess I wasn’t being “daft”.
You just wanted to get a point across about how people who don’t want to get a “jab” are being put through a “living hell “ by the government. Just say that at the beginning.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Methinks, if a foreign terrorist was picking off these oldsters, you’re attitude would not be so bliase’

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

covid doesn’t give a shyt how old you are.

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2 years ago
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Actually…the death rates are closely aligned with age and body weight (obesity, BMI). How closely? Well…we are not being allowed to see those actual statistics. We are only allowed to be told GET THE JAB. And I tell ya…when we are denied basic information it really feeds the conspiracy theorists. Like WHY- why aren’t we allowed this basic information? I’m jabbed but I ask that question every time we are denied information…If this pandemic is such a major health crisis then why aren’t we allowed access to info that provides context and patterns? Hmmm…..

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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Screw the old people, AmIright?! 😐

Joshua WoodsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Martin

Sorry, but I will decide when/if I will get a vaccine that doesn’t stop the illness it’s supposed to target, not the government.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Joshua Woods

Get the ones that lower risk of serious infection instead of whatever you are talking about.

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Martin

“We need to do 100% better by everyone getting their vaccine shots now, or this is going to drag on for months.”

NEWSFLASH! The most vaccinated countries are getting the most cases….in the VACCINATED! We are not going to vaccinate out of this! It IS going to drag on for months at least, especially with this idiotic, failing approach.

Turn off Chris Hayes. He is just Rachel Maddow with glasses.

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rollin
2 years ago
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“It makes me sick and very sad to have reached this point”

What should make you sick is that 100’s of thousands of people were sent home to DIE unneccessarily when there are VERY safe theraputics (Ivermectin, Hydroxychloriquine, Fluvoxamine) that mounting evidence is showing could have potentially saved their lives.

Whats more sickening is the vaccine cult excoriating those theraputics while ignoring 15 THOUSAND deaths on VAERS and over 100 THOUSAND SERIOUS side effects and all they can do keep on bleating like zombies: get the jab, get the jab, get the jab!

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  rollin

See my post here about Ivermectin. And can you please post where this “mounting evidence” is located? I am doing research on the subject, so any verified information from a respected and trust worthy news site you have, please pass it on.

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Man aged decline
2 years ago
Reply to  Martin

Just add it to all those other preventable ills of a modern society raised like domesticated animals.

You should be more suspicious of those in charge of taking your money and spending it with little accountability.

80 billion left on the dirt in Afghanistan.

1.5 billion per State WASTED.

TIME TO TAKE THE CREDIT CARD AWAY

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Martin

May nobody die ever again.

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Except for the noncompliant, who should all drown in their own pus.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Connie Dobbs

That’s pretty harsh.

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Best comment!

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2 years ago

18 hospitalized with COVID-19 locally, with six in intensive care.
As of Friday, one of the five deaths and two of the 14 hospitalizations recorded over the previous week were in the fully vaxxed, locally. (According to the North Coast Journal).

Hope the treatment they need to get better is available to them.

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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago

Kym, more and more often the software seems to just delete my comments in the middle of typing

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

It has only happened on one device. It happens erratically but seems to be happening more often. Next time it happens I will restart the browser and see if that changes things.

e fox
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2 years ago

It’s The Matrix! Take the blue pill

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Even if has happened only on one device, it can not be that any sites software stops input before it is input. This – ahem- paranoia.

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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

No paranoia, simply pointing out what appears to me like a glitch in a new system. If I’m the only one that has seen it it is likely a glitch within my device, which is also new to me.

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bearjoo
2 years ago

should pale in comparison to the vaccine related deaths in a year or two…

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Man aged decline
2 years ago

I for one feel it’s the duty of the public, to understand the enemy.

Otherwise you have no mercy when you play dumb, and ignorant.

Look at what you are doing to the children?

There’s no reason to stay apathetic unless you were educated, and raised in an apathetic community.

mark
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mark
2 years ago

Boy…the ‘rona hits some really hard. Horrible. The Vac’s…they are not the silver bullet either…but there is no doubt mRNA vacs help many not get the ‘rona so severe. It’s a fact.

infowars.com/posts/not-supposed-to-happen-us-state-with-highest-vaxx-rate-sees-record-surge-in-covid-cases/

All three of the vaccines use aborted fetes stem cells in either development [1] or production [2].
That is a concerning factor to many folks.

If we didn’t do the mRNA vacs… no doubt..many more people would of died…especially older an high mortality risk folks.

We are the humanity phase…damned if we do..and damned if we don’t . Years later..with their be huge/significant problems with mRNA participants? Reproductive health? Crashed immunity response…like HIV?

We don’t know.

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hmm
2 years ago
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Vermont ranked last in cases recently. Doing phenomenally better then Florida for example. That website should be called “misinfowars”.

The virus contain material from fetal cell lines established in the 1960’s and 70’s. No fetus were harmed in the making of the vaccines.

There is evidence to be concerned about long term health effects for the infected, so far no reason to be concerned about long term effects of the vaccinations.

Lou
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2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Vermont following same path as Israel . Cases are sky high

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

But “cases” don’t matter to the COVID is a”hoax” crowd.

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

What do you mean by hoax?

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou

Consult with all the Retrumplicans.

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

What, you wanted a vaccine faster than President Trump was able to provide?

mark
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mark
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

The vaccine has problems too. It’s not a silver bullet. Look to the Israel data. Great vac rate percentage… and the ‘rona comes back..like nobody had the jab. You can look it up. I’m not here to argue … one expects people to search it out. Decide for yourself.

The SARS-COV-2 Drug Vaccines | Dr. Richard Fleming

What I have observed in the mortician gig..is that people with caveman blood … O+…are less effected. AB +-…. have it worst with ‘rona. Also…’rona has a random factor… some person in their 20’s will die..and some other person with a bunch of bad factors…will live.

What we do know…is the ‘rona has HIV and some sort of “bat virus” hooked on there…and it’s not a natural thing..at all.

So.. the hand of man had a lab escape…be it incompetence..or be it conspiracy…so what? People die. They die horribly.

The mRNA vacs..which change your very cell structure..are a good bet for some. For others…the risk of reproductive damage….or HIV like immune response failures in the future…. or some sort of trigger function in the jabs…is too large of a risk.

I don’t judge. There are emotional responses from all sides..and the are valid responses. Myself..I’m a bit of a “snake handler”…and figure God will have his way with me….. no matter what bargain I make with Him.

I leave it at that. I am at peace with death…in what form it comes.

Ain’t No Grave (LIVE) – Bethel Music & Molly Skaggs | VICTORY – YouTube

Willie Caos-Mayham
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Willie Caos-Mayham
2 years ago
Reply to  mark

🕯🌳Boy you need to lay off the koolaid. 🖖🖖

mark
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mark
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

This is the abortion issue/vaccine info I am referring to:

Both Pfizer and Moderna vaccines “used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmatory phase”, while the Johnson & Johnson vaccines use the “PER.C6 fetal cell line cells” “to make the Johnson & Johnson vaccine”. See https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/you-asked-we-answered-do-the-covid-19-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-cells(Last visited August 10, 2021) (“Pfizer and Moderna have performed confirmatory testing … on fetal cell lines. And Johnson & Johnson uses fetal cell lines in the development, confirmation and production of vaccines.” Johnson & Johnson vaccine is derived from tissue that was taken from an … elective abortion “.); https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/ (last visited on August 10, 2021).

Israel is on what…the 4th mRNA jab……. when does the vaccine provide immunity?

Another thought is the Oregon oct 18th mandate… so..all these non jabbed health workers that lose their jobs…will “the state”…. eventually say the emergency is over…and they can come back to a medical job….or…. will this be a forever your a non vac leper situation? Should be quite a show.

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2 years ago
Reply to  mark

The tricky part of the whole “humane” and “compassion” angle is that we are currently destroying our planet and it’s ability to sustain our lives through our massive overpopulation. All of the deaths from Covid are nowhere near close enough to recover balance. I’m not in favor of killing anybody or wishing them dead but…ummm…I think I’ve made my point. The long-term and overall “humane” and ‘compassionate” feelings should be towards our future and our childrens’ future on Earth.

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mark
2 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Farce,

There are basically two reasons for the human over population that come to mind right away. One is modern medicine…antibiotics and so forth. Obviously.

The second reason is the petrol..the oil economy. A man can dig all day with a pick and shovel…. that same amount of energy of that man day…is in a table spoon of oil.

Oil has allowed the transportation, the roads are made of oil..the insecticides, the herbicides… the COMMERCIAL FERTILIZERS!!!! [like that all caps?… kind of fun]. Life comes down to calories per day. Without the oil…. there would not be corporate ag… pharmacuticals…. and so forth.

So… a bit off course from COVID…but I was a business major…. say the fake US currency collapses. Say finance fails…and the oil doesn’t move anymore.

Then what happens?

Yup.

Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Tricky part is understanding what drug provides a “good death”

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Nooo
2 years ago
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We don’t know if little green aliens will land on earth tomorrow to take over the world. But would anyone think that not putting out a house fire today is a good idea because there is a possibility that it might be torched by little green men tomorrow? Nothing is proof against doomsday fantizing except keeping a firm grip on the idea that, while the possibilities are endless and certainties few, the probabilities are pretty clear. A million people taking the vaccine has not lead to any of the anti vaxxers’ doom scenarios. They are pretty bad at prognostication. And even worse at dealing with probabilities. But their persistence in holding to these failed ideas is remarkable.

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2 years ago
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thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/denver-police-officer-father-four-takes-jab-now-cannot-walk-can-help/” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>Denver Police Officer and Father of Four Takes the Jab and Now Cannot Walk

theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/06/project-veritas-whistleblower-highlights-pfizer-executives-wanting-to-hide-use-of-fetal-tissue-in-vaccination-program/” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>Project Veritas Whistleblower Highlights Pfizer Executives Wanting to Hide Use of Human Fetal Tissue in Vaccination Program – The Last Refuge

prions… this a good presentation:
player.lightcast.com/zkzM0cTO” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>The SARS-COV-2 Drug Vaccines | Dr. Richard Fleming

….and the fact you cannot create more currency and create more prosperity can be seen in the obvious inflation in some items..and hyper inflation other items examples: ammunition and water treatment chlorine.
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

If the 10 year treasury were take a 1% rise in rate..the US could not even pay the interest payment on the debt. There is a reason that bonds now have a negative yield: Governments are broke.

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2 years ago
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2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

I don’t know the percentage of bad reactions to the jab.

I also don’t know how many people’s lives have been saved by same. No doubt lots of folks have been saved by the mRNA. This is not a debatable fact.

We do not know the long term effects of mRNA gene therapy… this is also a fact. Only time will give answers to long term effects to a vaccine that works on a cellular level..reprogramming the very cells of the human being. Hopefully…no ill effects at all.

Death by Medical Tyranny: Mother Forced to Get Jab to Be a ‘Room Mom’ Dies from Blood Clots

There are current questions with the new pill to treat the COVID:

“Proceed With Caution At Your Own Peril” – Merck’s COVID ‘Super Drug’ Poses Serious Health Risks, Scientists Warn | ZeroHedge

Connie DobbsD
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2 years ago

…and it only took twenty months.
And please, spare us the ‘b-b-but one is too many!!1!’ sobs, when you know in your heart you hope the noncompliant die.

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2 years ago

Weren’t we told at 70% vaccination we would reach herd immunity?

So we’re all good now? No?

Oh… the vaccines don’t actually work? We need 100% vaccinated and never ending boosters?

Thank god we’re following science!

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Nooo
2 years ago
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The ICUs are mostly filled with those who have diligently refused “the science.” They knew best. They knew that covid was just the flu, that vaccines were more dangerous than the disease and that it was all a big pharma lie. Hmm… maybe there should be an exit poll on their opinions now. If they exit able to voice an opinion of course.

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2 years ago

Kym, do you feel good about allowing your readers to wish death upon those choosing not to take the vaccine?

Do you ever consider writing a piece on the many varied reasons a person may opt not to take the vaccine?

The way this is framed is so incredibly one sided, and its alarming to say the least.

How much did you make out with jn covid bucks? Is that why you are participating in such biased reporting on this topic?

The lack of humanity is disgusting and highly disturbing.

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2 years ago
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Agreed. There are very good reasons for individuals on both sides of the issue. To lump everybody on the one side (either side) and then wish them death or hatred is disturbing and extremist. Just like the last presidential election and the one before…nobody who does this gets to claim they are “considerate”, “humane”, “compassionate” or even “decent”. What happened to reason? Are we all hate and fear now? Well…I refuse that mindset and I hope others will also.

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2 years ago
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Re, “Are we all hate and fear now?” …

I harbor something approaching both of those two conditons… disgust and great concern. I endeavor to do something about each, but not always successfully. Disgust is the tough one to contend with.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Eyeball Kid

You have cause.

Your disgust is how any normal person should feel when their tax dollars have been used to develop a bio weapon that is being used to inject a malware into our operating systems.

Eyeball Kid
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2 years ago

Don’t put words in my mouth.

Selenium Surfer
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2 years ago
Reply to  Eyeball Kid

But you’ll be willing to put an experimental drug in your body?

there is no middle ground here,eyball, you’re either with us or with the terrorists

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Eyeball Kid
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2 years ago

Re, “there is no middle ground here,eyball, you’re either with us or with the terrorists” …

You don’t get to decide that.

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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Ash

No, just no. Reading someone else’s opinion just because you post a link is a no.

Man aged decline
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Man aged decline
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

A Conspiracy is just a theory until someone with the data steps up.

Whistle-blower protection?

Assange?

Tara
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Tara
2 years ago

That is .01% deaths. Diabetes in 2020 was at 24.6% death rate. Why are we pushing so hard for this vaccine while insulin prices are through the roof?

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Hugh ManateeD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Tara

Okay, that is not even close to accurate.
You are conflating two different types of measurements.

24.6% of people with diabetes did not die in 2020.
24.6 people per 100,000 died of diabetes.
About 10X that many died of Covid.

I do agree that insulin prices are ridiculously high though.

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2 years ago

“But hurling insults does not back up any claim you make.. It only shows your ignorance.”

“And just because you think it’s true, does not make it true.”

SMH.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I am so sick of people questioning Ms Kemp,s journalistic integrity and sincerity. She is a highly respected journalist and community member.. She received the 2018 Unsung Hero award from the Society of Professional Journalists in Northern Calif. Hurling insults does not back up a claim…it only shows your ignorance. Just because you think it’s true does not make it true. If you can provide a link from a respected and trustworthy news site to back your claims fine. Other wise it’s just what you think is true. The world is not flat. The earth is not at the center of our solar system http://www.wikipedia.org

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Man aged decline
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

She’s got a good heart, and tireless work ethic, that does not mean she isn’t capable of being fooled by a massive campaign of propaganda.

It happens to us everyday.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Not sure how these comments got out of order, but my comment was in reply to efox’s comment below.

I believe he is editing comments, and/or then reposting them out of order, to throw things off.

Fun, fun, fun.

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Gbuck
2 years ago

Biology works. Math works thanks for playing

Big rick
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Big rick
2 years ago

Current humboldt county census count;

Year: 2021 Population: 134,186

100 total deaths. 0.000745234% of total population dead.

Stop scaring everyone.