92% of HSU Students Are Fully Vaccinated; 87% of Employees Fully Vaccinated

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Humboldt State University [Photo by Oliver Cory]

Press release from HSU:

Humboldt State University has achieved high rates of vaccinations and attestations for exemptions, reflecting the campus community’s commitment to health and safety.

  • Students: 98% have submitted and completed their attestation forms. Of all enrolled students, 92% are fully vaccinated. Of all students enrolled in face-to-face classes, 91% are fully vaccinated.

  • Employees: 92% have submitted and completed their attestation forms. Of all employees, 87% are fully vaccinated.

These numbers are encouraging! Thank you for continuing to take the precautions necessary to prevent the spread of illness, which include:

  • wearing masks at all times indoors (regardless of vaccination status), except if you are alone in a private office, or in your residence hall room with the door closed, and outdoors if you can’t maintain a six-foot distance from others

  • vaccinating against COVID-19

  • testing for COVID-19 once a week if your exemption was approved

  • monitoring yourself for symptoms of illness before coming to campus

Please remember that free testing is available, Monday-Friday, 8 a.m. – 5 p.m. for students, faculty, and staff in the Great Hall. There is no limit to the number of tests an employee or student can receive. It’s also important to understand what to do if you test positive. Read through the “Testing Positive” Guide carefully as steps differ for students and employees.

Appointments for vaccinations in the county can be made at myturn.ca.gov or call (833) 422-4255. You can schedule an appointment, or register to be notified when one is available.

Thank you again for doing your part to keep yourselves and your communities safe.

More on Campus Ready: Vaccine Mandate & Exemptions | What to do if you Test Positive | Testing Hours & Locations | Compliance for Students, Staff, Faculty | Wellness Self-check

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VMG
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VMG
2 years ago

We are gratified to read a headline with the news that people are being responsible, and doing what they can to limit their exposure to and the severity of the COVID virus.

Even if they have to be forced.

The comments read by me lately, below the copy on this blog, have been reprehensible, insulting, extremely rude, and beyond disgusting…

Blaming people who face death, for being “overweight”, vitamin D deficient, or saying that they “are stupid”, does nobody any good, and, folks, some of the comments here only serve to embarrass the commentator, and make the commentator look like an idiot with a cell phone…

A woman, 29 years old, was covered in thoughtless commentating yesterday, as she faces her own death and begs you to get vaccinated and to protect yourself.

Whatever else happens, in Humboldt County, it is useless to make stupid comments directed at making the victim of a serious infectious disease feel worse.

If you know nothing, and have nothing to say, please, say nothing.

Attacks upon the editor should cease, and, on MY blog, many would have been banned permanently long ago, for making indefensible and plain stupid, repetitive comments…

Turn it down, or point that thing somewhere else, and try not to make yourself look even sillier than you actually are.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Albert

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Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Expect more and more idiocy as more Loco expats jump on board here. Fact. You described expert TROLLING, and serious trolls love to incite anger and outrage, it’s what they live for. Attacking Kym, who hosts the idiots, well that’s just how entitled they feel. By the way, they don’t give a rats ass how anybody feels , heart wrenching stories are just fodder for their fun and games.
It’s all a game, so no, they’re not going to listen to you, they will in fact ratchet up the lunacy on purpose.

Joe
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Joe
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

You should take your own advice and say nothing

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Joe

You too Maga Joe.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Joe

See Yeah, sure’s comment above.

Go Duke!
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Go Duke!
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Cry me a river.

Outbreak of 365 students in a 98% vaxxed population. 357 were FULLY VAXXED.

Looks like HSU is getting primed for an outbreak too.

Covid is becoming a disease of, and BY, the variant driving VAXXED.

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Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Go Duke!

And how many were symptomatic and how many hospitalized? Most asymtomatic and zero hospitalized.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

The rate of hospitalization for college age kids is almost zero even if they’re unvaccinated sooooo………

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Low overall but still around 10X higher for the unvaccinated.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

The hospitization rate in North Carolina for people under 30 is 10%. I couldn’t find a more specific break down.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

All I could find is 500 deaths with covid for the 20 and under crowd, that would be over the last year and half. All previous years had higher flu like deaths in that age group, apparently the vaccine doesn’t work so good if at all for the younger crowd.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Go Duke!

Their undergraduate enrollment is over 16,000. 367/16,000 = 0.022

When you are looking at a sample where 98% of individuals are vaccinated, a reasonably intelligent person would expect that the majority of cases will be amongst the vaccinated. I’m not sure if some people are really stupid or intentionally trying to ignore this.

Of course the numbers would be far worse if the vaccination rates had been lower.

HSU is prepared for an outbreak, not primed for it.

Covid is overwhelmingly a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and the unvacinated contract (thus host and drive variants) and spread the virus significantly more than the vaccinated.

Are you also a flat earther?

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/30/duke-university-mandates-covid-vaccines-for-staff-following-outbreak.html

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Vax driving variants, kinda like a Hyundai but less safe

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Go Duke!

“ WHo CaREs ThEY JUsT PlAY BaSKetbALl” And then you go on to list basketball scores like anyone gives a fuck or has anything to do with the conversation. Weird

The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

And Vitamin D!

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Hey i heard someone might be watering their lawn, you might want to go flip out on them and warn their family about the water wars of 2030

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

I usually go to gun range, even though Samoa frowns on 50 cal ,and larger long guns . Some small cals can be fun and very competitive.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

I don’t have a garden because I’m trying to prevent the great water wars from happening

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

You had a complete meltdown over a truck spraying water at an airplane and went on a rant about the future water wars 🤣

e fox
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e fox
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

DHHS HOSTING WORKSHOP TO ‘FOCUS ON WATER EFFICIENCY’ ON TUESDAY You might want check this out. The article is here on RHBB

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Go Duke!

Duke University, with almost a 98% student vaccination rate has a positivity rate of 0.14%. Appalachia State University, with 57% of students vaccinated, has a positivity rate of 5.1%. Both are in North Carolina, in one of the poorest vaccination rate states. I couldn’t find hospitalizations or deaths for either but expect that it will correlate.

https://www.appstate.edu/go/coronavirus/reporting/covid-dashboard/
https://coronavirus.duke.edu/covid-testing/

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Covid is a joke for the younger crowd, won’t find much death in that group, truly pathetic lamedemic if a college student.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Go Duke!

Duke has a well known medical center and has a great infectious disease branch. Which is probably why they have stricter mandates than the State. Despitevanti vaxxer pushback.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

All kidding aside, Duke is a great university. And I have the greatest respect for Mike Krzyewski

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Go Duke!

Duke is home to a very well respected medical school

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Definitely get vaccinated, placebos work pretty well with panickers, better run and get some tp quick, cause nobody has panicked over this laughing matter .

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago

Most of those kids, and many of the adults aren’t in the vulnerable population. We need better priorities for health and wellness, that come from taking responsibility for a healthier lifestyle. I can’t imagine having to deal with this BS, as a young adult who can see right through the circus of a pharmaceutical solution to a societal problem.

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

Researchers with the Center for Economic and Social Research (CESR) at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences found that more than 3 out of 4 (76%) U.S. adults with at least a bachelor’s degree have already been vaccinated or plan to be, compared to just over half (53%) of those without a college degree. That’s a change from earlier in the pandemic, when level of education played less of a role in people’s willingness to get a COVID-19 vaccine. note: this article was published in the USC News on 2/25/21.

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e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Pregnant women who get an mRNA vaccine against COVID-19 pass high levels of protective antibodies on to their babies, new research shows. Doctors analyzed umbilical cord blood from 36 newborns whose mothers had received at least one dose of an mRNA vaccine from Pfizer (PFE.N)/BioNTech or Moderna (MRNA.O). All 36 babies had high levels of antibodies that target the spike protein on the surface of the virus – and all of the antibodies could be traced to the mothers’ vaccinations. The findings, reported on Wednesday in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology – Maternal Fetal Medicine, Reuters 9/24/21

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

No kidding, would have never guessed. Most in management positions that can be easily terminated will jump through hoops to keep a six figure salary. Us uneducated people making six or seven figures are needed in the physical labor workforce and make our own choices.

Concentration camp
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Concentration camp
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

I don’t think it’s right to make a person choose between going to college and getting vaccinated, this shot is being pretty much forced on people. Its not right when no one knows the long term effects. People should be aloud to choose for themselves freely without having their freedom or ability to continue with their education jeopardized.

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago

the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

HotCofee
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HotCofee
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

Do the needs of the many include all the goods sitting on the 60+ ships offshore waiting for months to be unloaded in San Diego? Do you notice grocery shelves missing items you buy? Nurse shortages at the hospitals? What happens when the truckers won’t deliver, and Amazon runs dry, their China goods sitting on ships and delivery drivers staying home? When your one gas station can’t get fuel deliveries?
Maybe you need those “uneducated” unjabbed more than you know.

Coming soon to the USA…..

https://www.politico.eu/article/fears-of-fuel-panic-buying-in-uk-as-some-petrol-stations-close/

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HotCofee
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HotCofee
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCofee

Anything you do over and over until you become skilled at that task is an education. A skilled doctor still needs a skilled mechanic or electrician. Seems college teaches snobbery quite well, and you don’t even have to sign up for the course, but it’s not a skill in high demand.

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e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCofee

A master plumber, carpenter, mechanic is considered to have a higher education, and any college professor will attest to that. Tech colleges teach trades. College is not all History and English lit students.I didn’t see anything in the article that looks down on them or any other professional. And 87% of employees are vaxed, so that would include maintenance, grounds keepers, safety personnel, and general staff. Smart is smart it doesn’t differentiate between job titles.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

“A master plumber, carpenter, mechanic is considered to have a higher education, and any college professor will attest to that.”

Not higher than the professor but higher that that of recent graduates sure.

Guest
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCofee

We certainly do not need those “ “uneducated” unjabbed ” dead or in the hospital either. That is up to them to sort the anti vaxxer propaganda from reality. But it could be helped if anti vaxxers at least stopped relentlessly repeating the worst of their misinformation.

Dana
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Dana
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCofee

I have noticed. Not that it’s life changing or anything but I have a consistent grocery list so I notice items that are missing, price changes, etc. I buy a carton of iced coffee every few days I’ve noticed refrigerated iced coffee is out of stock at both the Eureka and Arcata Safeways, also at Walmart over the past couple of weeks. I found it bizarre. I asked a cashier and he said they will be experiencing some shortages of various items so be patient. I would say if you have the means, buy extra on sale especially meat.

Joe
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Joe
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

The needs of old people should not outweigh the needs of young people who have their whole lives ahead of them

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,

From 01/01/2020 to 9/18/2021 there have a TOTAL of 464 deaths in the 0-17 age group .

Kids in that age group are literally dying from everything else at a higher rate than covid .

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

The new variant, which did not exist in January 2020, is affecting younger and healthy individuals. There are many articles about this.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

The numbers provided in the link from the cdc are from January 2020 to TODAY. Can you not read ?

You can also go on their website and see what the numbers are since delta became the dominate strain.

You can look at actual numbers or you can read garbage articles that use phrases like “ many more children” or “a chilling number of children “ . Data is all that matters

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Yes, I can read. The very article you quoted from the CDC goes on to state that there has been a significant increase in infections and hospitalizations in children from week to week up until August 14, 2021; they recognize the Delta variant has had a negative affect which is what I mentioned. Regardless, averaging numbers across 19 months is not sufficient “data” to support your argument. The recommendation in that article and the many other scholarly articles out there is that we must keep children and young people safe by vaccinating them if possible and not assuming they are not at risk. (I personally don’t remember reading anything anywhere using the wording “a chilling number”. I agree that would be a dumb statement.)

lets be honest
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lets be honest
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

mega me is correct on this. You are proving their point by quoting “there has been a significant increase in infections and hospitalizations in children”

That sounds mvery scary but the actual numbers tell a different story.

I support vacination passports, scoail distancing and masking. We have to be honest about what the risks of this virus are or our side loses all credibility. Children are essentually not in danger, based on this data.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  lets be honest

Unfortunately you don’t know the long term damage of covid. Young people can overcome a disease yet suffer neurological or organ damage that only becomes a problem later. It will show up as increased levels of atrial fibrillation, heart valve failure, auto immune diseases, etc as they are. And that doesn’t include new surprises that are likely to arise as covid is attacks the nervous system and is a great place for viruses to escape the immune system. So called “long covid”, which happens a lot more than ling term effects of flu, is ominous.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  lets be honest

Whose point? The CDC’s? The article that Mega me was quoting from?

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

Vax kids against junk food and video games!

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

Yeah the new variant fentanyl, killing thousands in that age group , covid not so much, truly pathetic virus.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

300 deaths in children over the last year and half, do you ever think maybe there is a reason cases are up,or is common sense against the grain right now.Let me guess ,more children hospitalized? Why? Because schools have chosen to go back in session, with tons of testing, and when a kid tests positive the panicked tp buying parent runs junior right to the er. Pretty simple to see the cause and affect.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Going to the ER is not the same as being hospitalized. Therefore you are incorrect in your assumption.

ok
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ok
2 years ago
Reply to  Joe

We all agree on that, and good news, the needs of old people are not being placed before the needs of young people.

Actully
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Actully
2 years ago

A person should not have to chose between going to college or being exposed to covid. The unvaccinated contract and spread the virus at higher rates.

Reality
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Reality
2 years ago
Reply to  Actully

They will be exposed to covid regardless, vaccinated people carry and spread it all the same. Did you watch the video above??! In reality the students will be less cautious because they will think they are safe.

Nooo
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Nooo
2 years ago
Reply to  Reality

Vaccinated people do not contract carry, generate variants, or spread the virus as much as the unvaccinated. That is a pathetic attempt at gaslighting.

To think that those who decide to get vaccinated willact less reapoably than those who (irrspoably) chose to not be vaccinated is absurd.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

You’ve apparently missed the discussion about pressure from vaccinating with a non -sterilizing immunity injection mid pandemic! Disaster actually. Instead of the media simply “reporting” on increased infection rate in youth since the onset of mass vax campaign they need to ask why.

It’s pretty obvious the dominant strain is currently vaccine resistant, and will cause enhanced disease and disease in portions of the community previously minimally impacted like our children and young adults. Thanks a lot pfizer!

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Poison vaccine
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Poison vaccine
2 years ago
Reply to  Nooo

Yes, they do carry and spread it, they aren’t being tested unless they have symptoms. If your not being tested the data doesn’t reflect how many actually have it and are freely passing it. They are more likely to spread it due to not having any idea they are carrying it. Start testing the vaccinated at the same rate as the unvaccinated and you’ll have realistic data.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

The long term risks of a case of Covid-19 are also unknown. The short term risks are really well known. This is a congregate living situation of a group of people fairly notorious for risky behavior. That puts more of a burden on college administrators than on public health at large.

Jay
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Jay
2 years ago

HSU students have the option of vaccination or weekly testing, no one is forcing it on them.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

Exactly.

People have had a year and a half to get their physical fitness top notch but they’d rather still eat like pigs and ignore the situation .

According to the cdc

Obesity Worsens Outcomes from COVID-19
Adults with excess weight are at even greater risk during the COVID-19 pandemic:

Having obesity increases the risk of severe illness from COVID-19. People who are overweight may also be at increased risk.
Having obesity may triple the risk of hospitalization due to a COVID-19 infection.
Obesity is linked to impaired immune function.2,3
Obesity decreases lung capacity and reserve and can make ventilation more difficult.4
A study of COVID-19 cases suggests that risks of hospitalization, intensive care unit admission, invasive mechanical ventilation, and death are higher with increasing BMI.5
The increased risk for hospitalization or death was particularly pronounced in those under age 65. 5
More than 900,000 adult COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred in the United States between the beginning of the pandemic and November 18, 2020. Models estimate that 271,800 (30.2%) of these hospitalizations were attributed to obesity.6
Children diagnosed with obesity may suffer worse outcomes from COVID-19. In a study of COVID-19 cases in patients aged 18 years and younger, having obesity was associated with a 3.07 times higher risk of hospitalization and a 1.42 times higher risk of severe illness (intensive care unit admission, invasive mechanical ventilation, or death) when hospitalized.

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

my fitness gym was closed

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e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

Mmmmmm donuts.

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

Dude, you know you can exercise outside, right? Or get some resistance bands and work out at home? Btw, still here and still unvaxxed. Still waiting on those flowers though.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

We are all still here, so far.

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

That was a callback to an earlier comment where cu2morrow stated that if I wasn’t vaccinated for covid, I would die from it. I certainly have not yet and have a 99.7% chance it won’t happen at all. I’ve also been asked what type of flowers I want for my funeral. Certainly some optimistic folks. 😆🤣😂

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

I would never suggest that unvaccinated people will or should die, just that they need to be more cautious than the vaccinated. I just went to a memorial yesterday for someone who passed away last year from Covid 19, before the vaccine. That’s person’s death affected a lot of people.

Pushyfails
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Pushyfails
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

The lack of caution from the vaxxed thinking they’re invincible is a big factor in the rise in cases, so speak for yourself. You need to be just as cautious.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Pushyfails

I never said otherwise and don’t know who among the vaxxed has so I’m not sure why you are commenting so. I am cautious. I have asthma.

Pushyfails
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Pushyfails
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

You said “unvaccinated people need to be more cautious than the vaccinated”.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Pushyfails

They do. But everyone needs to be cautious.

Pushyfails
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Pushyfails
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

No worries, I’ll avoid y’all like I avoid genetically modified foods.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  c u 2morrow

You don’t need a gym to work out

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

As 2morrow’s humor flys over their heads.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Obesity is a major health issue in the USA. Fat acceptance is a horrible trend.

That being said, the difference in outcomes between the vaccinated and unvaccinated dwarfs the difference in outcomes between the obese and those with a healthy body weight.

The best approach is to achieve/maintain general good health AND be vaccinated.

For many fat people 1.5 years would not be enough time to get to a healthy body weight.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

1.5 years is plenty of time to get in much better shape .
All i hear are pathetic excuses

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Also 10 months is plenty of time to see that vaccination did not result in mass death, injury or infertility. But yet here we are. Sanctimonious hypocrisy is a self defense mechanism.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I *am vaccinated , go bark up another tree. My point is is that if Americans weren’t so fucking fat and unhealthy this pandemic would be a lot more manageable from the get go. Our entire health care system would be better for it.

Maybe fortify your body so the next time another pandemic hits we won’t see hundreds of thousands die before they finally come out with another jab . Ya ever think about that ?

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

If a lot of things had been different, a lot of things would be different.

Im sure many are interpreting your arguments in favor of general fitness as arguments against vaccination. Or as ana rgument that genraly good heath can/should replace vaccination.

Guest
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Somehow you find any exhortations to get vaccinated offensive since you fall right in with the “blame the fat” anti vaxxers but seem to feel your own exaggerated exhortations to get fitter are fine. Hmm… Too bad there are no mirrors to reflect the inside of humans as there are the outside. If your goal was to increase fitness, you would not frame it in terms you do. You just want to express your contempt for those who do not follow your obsessions- those awful lazy, gross fat people. Which is 3/4ths of the population. If this wasn’t your purpose, you would align with those pushing vaccination and still exhort for better fitness. Which you don’t.

If you were right in your tunnel vision, there would be virtually no deaths among thinner people. But there are. Even places with low overweight populations suffer enough deaths and disability from covid that they place restrictions on their population. I suspect that if it were possible to seperate public health actions, have universal standards of reporting and measured all related comorbidities, then there would be a death rate of at least 1%. It will be known in a couple of years when population studies give a clearer picture deaths that were not reported.

Dana
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Dana
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

And yet cheeseburgers, fries, weed, beer, doughnuts and many other attributes of obesity were offered as incentives to vaccinate. Nothing in our healthcare system is about prevention. Clean eating, exercise, water and healthy sleep habits can make all the difference in ones health.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

You have a very simplistic understanding of health. Sweden has recently had very high numbers of illness and death from Covid, far surpassing their European neighbors. The Swedes are not known for being fat or out of shape. What is your theory?

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

Sweden has been pretty much in the middle of European countries in per capita deaths and infections. Sweden also had a lower mortality rate in 2020 than in 2010

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Better shape sure but they would still be overweight and thus still at higher risk. Not an excuse, just a fact.

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Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Unless you have some crazy thyroid problem You can damn near transform your body in 6 months with diet and a workout regimen.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Yes. For many. But like the “just say no” to drugs campaign, that demand is not of much use to effect change if it is not accompanied by acceptable alternatives. Your attitude is like the evangelicalism of religions sermonizing the adulterous. People, despite those who can’t see why it’s not simple, simply keep be adulterous. Life is not as simple as you seem to think it is.

“The strength of the genetic influence on weight disorders varies quite a bit from person to person. Research suggests that for some people, genes account for just 25% of the predisposition to be overweight, while for others the genetic influence is as high as 70% to 80%.” https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-people-become-overweight

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

I don’t know anyone who disagrees with you that many people should be taking better care of their health. However, you and others focusing on this don’t seem to understand that perfectly healthy people still get sick, and still die. It’s not all about kale and supplements. Maybe talk to an MD about this.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

That’s because the rate at which healthy BMI people are dying from covid with no pesky underlying conditions like heart disease and high blood pressure are waaaay lower than people who are obese.

Maybe look up the leading causes of death in the US are a what are the leading contributors to it.
I’m guessing its not working out and eating Whole Foods .

Madrone32
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

I don’t disagree with you on that, and I have been saying that Americans should be healthier. Heart disease is still number one. What I am saying is even healthy people can get sick and die from viruses, so why take that gamble when you can improve your odds with diet, exercise, AND modern medicine. Healthier and younger people have become sicker from Covid in the past few months even if they are still the minority. And those are the facts.

Minority Abuse
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2 years ago
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You can’t vaccinate health and safety into the world, when there is obvious censorship instead of healthy discussion of obvious reactions that kill some people.
If you can’t see the problem with people dying from the injection , then how are we ever going to empathize with those who just seem to have bad luck, poor health, or both from getting sick?
We have no metric available that measures what excellent health is.
,if we did , we could have a REAL discussion on our inability to use the science behind Root Cause, and effect, to determine why some are more predisposed for bad health. The glaring omissions of what constitutes a HEALTHY PERSON, has been duly noted.
Some plants just thrive in the right conditions, most farmers will kill those plants that are weak, as those are susceptible to pests, and disease.

Some people may be defective, compromised immune system, etc, so they need a higher level of education and attention to understand their risk management protocols.

Why do nut allergies kill some people, and not others?

Madrone32
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2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

I honestly have not read about hoards of people dying from the injection. I doubt anyone has.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

Dr Peter McCullough said analyses of VAERS data concluded 50% of deaths occur within 48 hours of the jab & 80% of deaths occur within the week.
CDC says you’re NOT ‘fully vaccinated’ until 2 weeks after injection, so any deaths BEFORE then are recorded as ‘unvaccinated.’

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hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
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We CAN increase safety via vaccination.

The amount of discussion regarding people dying from vaccination is appropriate relative to the number of people dying from vaccination, almost none.Many magnitudes of order less than those dying from the virus.

Health is measured by a set of metrics, these is no single metric because it is complex. You seem to be complaining about a problem that does not acully exist.

Your writing on this comment went to shit. You are not making coherent points.

“Why do nut allergies kill some people, and not others?”

Because some people are not allergic to nuts. Are you asking to be educated on the human immune system and allergies?

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Zero liability is zero liability.

The longer the experiment goes the happier I am with my choice to abstain.

That’s really when the discussion ended.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

Man has a long history of self inflicted abuse.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
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Dr Peter McCullough said analyses of VAERS data concluded 50% of deaths occur within 48 hours of the jab & 80% of deaths occur within the week.
CDC says you’re NOT ‘fully vaccinated’ until 2 weeks after injection, so any deaths BEFORE then are recorded as ‘unvaccinated.’

Actully
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2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

They are not in the most vulnerable segment of the population but still can potentially contract covid. Anti-vaxers are a societal problem.

Treated 9000
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Treated 9000
2 years ago
Reply to  Actully

Really news, begs to differ, I don’t have time to cut and paste, I just wonder when culling the herd stopped, and know wanting to protect us useless breathers, became a social cause, the vextards always seem to ignore social distance
and masking while breathing on everyone, people with underlying health concerns waiting for new , and safer Vax, are petrified over the vaccinated because they appear to have become ucking zombies.

The people that boast about population control are screaming to its populations, get vaccinated, like when did the government care for its people. Know everyone is screaming the same tune, and it’s scary as fuck the world as we know it is fucking over. So yah, I’ll get my fucking shot, kind of like a freedom suicide. But at least I’ll keep the social justice freaks whom hate life, the unborn, the elderly, Republicans, Christians. Happy. Until they find another reason, to feel so righteous

Minority Abuse
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2 years ago
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Well take a look at your own narrow belief system that thinks I don’t have a right to defend myself or my choice. It’s not my belief system that makes people vulnerable to weaponized, gain of function viruses, and when those facts are brought to light, somehow the RIGID thought process can’t hold on to an outdated way of thinking and accept critical new information.
Look at the country at the moment, it’s not a problem of hesitancy that is causing all the problems, it’s people being woefully distracted by brush fires for the mind.
Meanwhile we watch the Australian people fight bravely to take back their country and their lives. Be careful of alienating your community because we all need to focus on the managed decline of our civilization.

Wake the fuck up!

The Real Brian
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2 years ago

Vaccinate!

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
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Eat healthy! Exercise! Breathe fresh air and get some sunshine! An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound into your arm!!!

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

How about doing both !!

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

If that’s your bag, go for it. Just don’t ask me or others to validate your choices. Thanks!

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

I’m not asking you to validate my “choices”. Why don’t you people stop with the terms like “pound into your arm”. Such fear Monge ring from the unjabbed. What are you afraid of? It doesn’t match your political persuasions.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

Not everyone decides against vaccines for political reasons, fyi

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
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Everyone know there are some who cannot be vaccinated due to medical issues.

Other than these people the choice to not be vaccinated is not based on medical information divorced of right wing politics or left wing conspiracy theories.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Just explain the conspiracy theory of zero liability.

We all have our part to play.

Unreal infinite truths of how it is and has been in all countries regardless of political ideology labels, commieism, socialism, democracy, czarism, etc

Like Dylan said “…the masters make the rules for the wise men and the fools…”

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2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

It sounds like you have not actually made an effort to understand the reasons that people choose not to get vaccinated and instead have accepted the boxes you have been handed to place them in. These boxes are designed to turn real people making their own choices out of a complex and evolving situation into caricatures that can be summarily dismissed as “less than”.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

You are asking others to validate your choices. When you tell others to get vaccinated because you are, you’re asking for confirmation bias. You want others to validate the choice you made as “correct.” What is fearful about my comment? Can you be specific? I’m not afraid of the vaccine. I’m not taking it. Others can do as they wish. I’m not afraid of vaccine mandates. I’m employed in agriculture and there’s no mandates from my boss, so no fear there. The “pound in the arm” is a play on the saying, “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” What political persuasions do you think I proscribe to? Sounds like some projection on your end. Eagerly awaiting your response…

Madrone32
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2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

I don’t think confirmation bias pertains to this subject. I certainly did not check to see if other people were getting vaccinated before making my own choice to get vaccinated. Some of us are grownups.

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hmm
2 years ago
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“When you tell others to get vaccinated because you are, you’re asking for confirmation bias.”

That is not why people ask others to get vaccinated.”because you are” that’s just plain stupid.

“What is fearful about my comment? Can you be specific?”

Fear of medical science and society/government.

“The “pound in the arm” is a play on the saying, “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.””

In that case you must have been having bad luck at thinking. Because the vaccination is the ounce of prevention.

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2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

I wasn’t replying to you, but since you asked… You’re definitely asking for confirmation of your decision. It’s no different than sports fans who like to see others that are supporting the same side they are. You want to be on the “winning” team with like-minded people.

I’m not afraid of medical science. I am afraid of people. They make mistakes. All the time. Why would I take some experimental drug that hasn’t completed all phases of testing to survive a disease with a 0.2% mortality rate? That seems foolish to me. You’re sure convinced that no one who developed this drug could have made an unforseen error? You’ve got a lost more trust than I do in others.

As for not trusting government, if you trust them at all I’d say your underinformed or misinformed about what and who they are concerned with and how little you mean to them (except for your ability to create capital and goods for them).

I like my use of aphorisms and maxims, but if you don’t that’s fine. But how does one gain luck AT thinking? That’s a mystery for the ages…

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2 years ago
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Drugs are good, what’s wrong with you, main stream them drugs, immediately. New Ag campaign, drugs do the body good , crack me up.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

By and large those things are not worth more than vaccination, as even those who are healthy are at risk.

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

Prove it. Show me the the numbers of fit individuals who die from covid next to the numbers of those who are overweight/obese.

I’ll take my chances trusting in myself and you take your chances with pharmacology. We’ll see who fares better.

HSU grad
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HSU grad
2 years ago

Tragic that so many kids are being coerced in this way.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  HSU grad

No one made them do it. I’m sure they could find a college in Florida that would gladly accommodate unvaccinated, maskless students.

Treated 9000
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Treated 9000
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Haitians whom never wier required to wier a mask, show proof , or get a security clearance are going to have a great time causing social justice. I just wish I could get hired giving public service advice while thinking I’m safe from the great culling.

Think of how on a small scale Humboldt got ducked, and people think the powers that be actually care about anything other then self, and self x 10.

Yes, big government loves you. You will be exempt from the great culling. Maybe you might even get a laddle from the bottom of the pot.

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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Treated 9000

Oh, did I miss something? They let all the Haitians in and just cut them loose?

Joshua WoodsD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Pretty much. Most were given a notice to appear to a hearing but we all know statistically most never return. They just keep living here illegally.

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  HSU grad

The education system is indoctrination in many forms.

Jay
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Jay
2 years ago
Reply to  HSU grad

as previously mentioned weekly testing is an alternative to vaccination at HSU, most students have chosen vaccination instead. Your assertion that they are tragically being coerced is inaccurate.

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bearjoo
2 years ago

RIP

Mega me
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2 years ago

If you don’t think you’re fat you might want to plug your height and weight into a BMI calculator and do something about it

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2 years ago
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2 years ago
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I got “Advocate “ on the test

It’s comparing me to Martin Luther king Jr and Nelson Mandela

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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

2007. Joe Biden – “No great country can say it is secure without being able to control its borders.”

By letting in the un-vaxxed and sending them all throughout the country????
Either the un-vaxxed are not a danger, OR Joe is trying to kill you.

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Skitty
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2 years ago
Reply to  HotCofee

Go tRump

Madrone32
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Apparently that’s a free test. You get what you pay for.

HotCoffee
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2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

Once you’ve placed yourself in one of their 16 categories by answering their questions, I wonder who they will be selling the info. to.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

So true.

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nevertrustacop
2 years ago

edumacated order followers

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago

One gal said “I hope you get Covid and Die”, the other replied, “let’s see who lives longer”

This sums up our division, and our own self hate and self abuse.

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e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

She should have said “I hope you ride a mountain and die” that seems to cause people to die.

Penny Pincer
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2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Huh? 🙃

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

Inside joke

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Explain.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

Either e fox is unfamiliar with snowboarding lingo or minority abuse had a typo. e fox thought (thinks) it was really funny

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago

Hmm…🤔 Guess we have a different sense of humor.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago

Two of the cruelest ironies of our time…

2020: Black-owned businesses burned down in the name of “Black Lives Matter”.

2021: Front-line workers who risked their lives for a year with no vaccine while most Americans cowered in their homes, now being fired for not taking it.

Madrone32
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

My (young and healthy) brother is a nurse who contracted Covid last year and became seriously ill. He and his wife (also a nurse) sent their kids away to live with family in order to protect them, which was hard on everyone. Why is it that those who have become sick from the virus keep trying to warn the general population about these realities? Do you think they are just making this stuff up?

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2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

What does that have to do with firing nurses during a pandemic in already short staffed hospitals?

I think the nurses are aware of the risks more than you or i .
Wouldn’t you also think that they have natural antibodies by now?
Use logic.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

I think the idea is that health care workers should not be passing dangerous diseases on to their vulnerable patients. I can ask my brother about his antibodies if you like.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Another of the cruelest ironies is that black Americans have been conditioned to expect to be exploited and are very suspicious so that anti vaxxer rhetoric has cause more to hesitate in getting vaccinated and therefore have a higher death rate.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Its pretty demeaning of you to assert that the millions of individuals you refer to as “black Americans” are somehow incapable of making their own choices based their own, and their communities, lived experiences. To assert that the hesitancy in these communities is because of “anti vaxxer” rhetoric denies those millions of people agency, a long lived by product of their commodificiation and dehumanization within our culture.

As will almost every health issue in this country, generations of ghettoization and systemic abuse has created conditions of poverty and vulnerability that set the stage for generally worse outcomes for the populations generally identified as “black ” or “African american”. These.populations suffered inordinate infection and death from the beginning of this pandemic, it has little to do with their vaccination habits

Minority Abuse
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2 years ago

One of the mechanisms they (the political elites) use to manage their need for control is division. They need vaxxed -vs- unvaxxed. They need left -vs- right. They need identity politics. They need class war. They need racism. They need support from Big Tech. They need to control the media. They need compartmentalized scrap-grabbers constantly looking down; because if enough people start looking up and seeing through the division, the masses will find unity.

Those who hold tenuous power know the intelligence agencies alone will not be able to protect them from a unified people.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

👍

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

That is truly sad. We will have to see what comes from the investigation.

Lou
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Lou
2 years ago

Institutions are beginning to go online because of surge in cases with almost 100% vaxxed. How long does hsu stay open? Cmon betting is fun!!