29-Year-Old COVID Patient in St. Joe’s Pleads With Community to Get Vaccine

From adventure in Greece to hospital bed in Humboldt in just a few months.

From adventure in Greece to hospital bed in Humboldt in just a few months–to the left:Shane Finch and Linda Urbina as they traveled through Greece. To the right, screenshot of Linda Urbina on her hospital bed Tuesday.

In June, 29-year-old Linda Urbina got engaged in Greece to her partner of five years, Shane Finch. Her life seemed perfect. But now she says she is struggling to breathe since she was taken to St. Joseph’s Hospital in Eureka from her Weott home in an ambulance this Tuesday.

“I didn’t believe COVID was like this,” she said between ragged gasps over the phone from her hospital room. “I thought it would last like three days. I’ve never had anything like this.”

Urbina, a mother of four, believes her whole family contracted the illness when her 7-year-old son brought it home from the school he attends in Scotia.

“On September 3, we got told my second grader had been exposed,” she told us. “We got tested. My 7-year-old was positive.”  Soon the rest of the family caught COVID. “Everyone got it…My kids had fevers…Sick for a couple of days and then they were better. My fiancé got it for a day.”

She doesn’t know why COVID sent her to the hospital while almost everyone else in the family recovered in a short time. But, she says she was the one who was taking care of everyone else as they got sick. “I was in and out of those rooms,” she explained. “I was the one being a mother–that’s my responsibility,” she told us.

Shane Finch and Linda Urbina as they traveled through Greece. [Photo used with permission]

Shane Finch and Linda Urbina as they traveled through Greece. [Photo used with permission]

In addition, she says she was a little run down. She told us she had planned to get vaccinated when she got home from Greece. But, she said when she found out that she and her partner had conceived while on the trip, she wondered if getting the vaccine would harm her baby. (CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky says that the CDC “encourages all pregnant people or people who are thinking about becoming pregnant and those breastfeeding to get vaccinated to protect themselves from COVID-19…The vaccines are safe and effective, and it has never been more urgent to increase vaccinations as we face the highly transmissible Delta variant and see severe outcomes from COVID-19 among unvaccinated pregnant people.”)

But then in August, she lost her baby. “Three weeks before COVID got me, I had a miscarriage,” she told us. “I was so depressed. It hurt me so bad. Then on Sept 3, the virus hit my home.”

Perhaps the loss of her baby, perhaps the sadness, perhaps the repeated exposure to multiple ill family members, perhaps all of the above could have led her to have a worse reaction than others in her household. Urbina says she’s not sure of the cause.

She explained that her whole family had been in isolation in Weott since Labor Day weekend. When she got sick, she didn’t get better quickly like the rest of the family. “I couldn’t breathe,” she told us. “The chest pain…My fiancé had to call 911 on Tuesday. I was brought here in an ambulance. I was so, so low on oxygen.”

Now, she says, she’s fighting fever and fear in a hospital bed. “It is horrible to hear patients in pain,” she told us. “I have a hard time talking. I get very tired…”I’m the only person in their twenties in the hospital with COVID.”

Urbina praises the staff at St. Joseph’s Hospital. “The nurses have been amazing to me here,” she tells me. “I was doing fine and then today I started having more complications.”

Her voice grows faint and she hesitates between words as she speaks in an almost dreamy voice. “I went to Fortuna High–graduated 2009… I grew up in Scotia. I miss it…My parents have lived in Scotia for 33 years. My dad works at the Mill.” Then, she starts to ramble a little, “I just want to be underneath the redwood trees.”

She breathes harshly for a few beats then begins to cry, “My kids…I just want to go home to them. My parents…My mother is 58 years old taking care of three kids right now.” (The fourth child, Urbina’s stepdaughter, is still testing positive so she is with Urbina’s fiancé.)

She tells us that the reason she asked to talk to a reporter is because she wants to tell people to protect themselves. “I want people to get vaccinated,” she says. “I wouldn’t have ended up like this with the vaccine. I’m having a lot of heart problems. I’m dealing with blood clots.”

She tries to draw a deep breath. “Nobody believes this COVID,” she almost whispers. “Everyone is in denial. We were are all afraid of a vaccine.” She goes on to say, “But death is always behind us. We could cross the road and get hit by a damn car.”

Her voice steadies and she adds, “I just want people to get the vaccine. Its everyone’s choice, but I don’t wish this upon anybody…We think we are young and we are going to fight it through. You just don’t know though. You don’t know how it is going to affect your body.”

She has posted other videos of her experiences on her Facebook page. “I made them live and public I want people here in Humboldt to see what it is like to be in the hospital with COVID.”

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Carol C.
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Carol C.
2 years ago

Thank you for speaking up! I hope you feel better! Sending love and healing your way, Urbina 💚

e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Carol C.

Thanks Abe

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e fox
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2 years ago
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WARNING: A recent year long study by world renowned Dr. ABC Suess has found that stressing on comments on here, can cause, high blood pressure, headaches and stomach pains. Please be advised.

Cali Grown
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Cali Grown
2 years ago
Reply to  Carol C.

If you want to stay healthy then you should have stayed out of the hospital! If you catch covid get some mucinex with expectorant to dry out the mucuss and phlem. Caught Covid in Jan 2020 and Aug 2021. Not vaccinated. Had no problem kicking its butt in 4 days! I took Mucinex and ate my vitamins and took Stamets 7 mushroom mycelium extract and also took wellness formula from health food store. I would absolutely refise to go to hospital unless I wanted to be put in a bed and intubated. Then its weeks of recovery as one week intubated without getting up or eating ( only eat through a feeding tube when intubated) will have you so weak and feeling down you will want to die! And now nurses and doctors are spending way less energy or time if they think your not vaxxed or anti vax….. go figure… the hospital is the place everyone is dying….

Cody Mark MacDonald
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Cody Mark MacDonald
2 years ago

I know dozens of other people that got covid and didn’t even know they had it. Sounds like Linda was unhealthy. What’s her other health issues? What’s her vitamin D levels?

cutommorrow
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cutommorrow
2 years ago

I know dozens of other people that got covid and didn’t even know they had it. “

So much for protecting the herd

Gavin'sComb
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Gavin'sComb
2 years ago
Reply to  cutommorrow

No they’re the ones building herd immunity, just like Sweden.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Gavin'sComb

You mean the country that didn’t lock down and ended up with the most covid infections and deaths in Northern Europe? That Sweden?

Adrienne Floreen
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Read my comment and the rest of the comments on your article and delete any comments blaming this woman for getting sick from a virus that shouldn’t exist. It’s not her “weight” or “vaccination status” that caused her to get sick, it’s a virus likely created in a lab funded by the USA and China. Stop blaming this woman, people, and Kym, stop allowing your comments section to be used to ream this innocent woman! Everybody leave this woman alone! She’s a victim, and trying to do the right thing – get offa her case, your comments aren’t just nasty, they’re abuse and even slander.

Adrienne Floreen
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2 years ago

I allow comments like that about myself to stay on my YouTube channel. I have thick skin and have seen nasty like you couldn’t imagine. But if I promoted someone and everyone started making fun of her weight? I’d delete those comments and ban those people as soon as humanly possible. Or their race, religion, etc – there’s some lines you don’t cross, on your own site, and some things you don’t allow posted on your own site.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

Sweden had a lower national mortality rate in 2020 than they did in 2010

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Was that is from a statistic based on projections that did not include covid in 2020? https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/SWE/sweden/death-rate

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

No, it is from the Swedish national statistics website. It is based their official all cause mortality rates.

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Gavin'sComb

if delta didn’t get em’ the next one will.

Annie Tolsen
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Annie Tolsen
2 years ago

There is nothing in this piece to indicate she was unhealthy. That is a blame the victim mentality. No one knows how their immune system will or will not respond to any illness. Bodybuilders have died of COVID. It is luck of the draw. The vaccine decreases your chance of being unlucky significantly.

Guest
Guest
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2 years ago
Reply to  Annie Tolsen

Yes but those who are overweight are hit harder by COVID. Not being in your BMI means you’re not healthy & more susceptible to many preventable health issues. Simple truth that many Americans suffer from preventable health problems because of being over a healthy BMI. It’s science.

Heather
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Heather
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Was she overweight?

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Annie Tolsen

Well the photos certainly indicate that she is not at her correct weight. I’m sorry she is sick, that is terrible for sure , but she is overweight significantly in the photos. This is a major co-morbidity issue with the virus. So I think if you are elderly, immune compromised , have serious underlying Heath issues OR you are obese , it makes sense to get this vaccine.

Lori Keating Wright
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Lori Keating Wright
2 years ago
Reply to  Annie Tolsen

She was stressed out and low. She had had a miscarriage recently. If you read the article

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Annie Tolsen

Bodybuilders are not generally the healthiest people. They are engaged in extreme behaviors that stress their body in pursuit of abnormal physical form. They generally have a shorter life expectancy than the population at large

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Blaming someone is another way of a person feeling in control and safe. They are saying to themselves that it won’t happen to them because they are doing the right things. It’s true that if a person locks themselves away from everyone without fail, they won’t catch an infection. Very few are able to do that. This woman had children to see to. And did take care of them. Quit fishing around trying to make yourself feel by making others feel guilty.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Only she is responsible for being over her appropriate weight which is unhealthy and thereby increasing her risk . Guest is correct. Those of us who protect our health don’t need to blame others for not protecting theirs. But don’t make excuses and be all surprised when you wind up in the hospital. Only the patient made that happen you her own doing. Take responsibility for your choices in life.

Guest
Guest
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

As if there was any reality to the belief that being an “approriate” weight was any guarantee of safety. Of course more people are in ICUs who are overweight. Because more people in general are overweight. As for clear fatal comorbidities- being unvaccinated is the biggest.

Anti vaxxers have latched onto weight as their latest way of shifting blame from themselves to others. They announce that they don’t need vaccination because it’s the fault of the overweight that they get sick. Well duh! Being overweight taxes the body’s resources in any sickness but that is less a factor than age, race and other issues. There is one sure preventative- if people spreading the disease are prevented from infecting others, no one has to die.

c u 2morrowD
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2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I don’t think the covid virus gives a shyt about your/our weight

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seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I keep hearing repeatedly on social media and the news, regarding Covid. “How old were they?” “How was their health before catching Covid.” “Were they overweight?” I wonder that too, but I still feel compassion and sadness regardless of their health status. I don’t think anyone deserves to become sick. When one becomes very very ill, and survives, sometimes their perspective and priorities change and they are just happy to be alive! Linda Urbina is brave to go public about her health. I am glad to see there are people who are compassionate towards her. She suffered a miscarriage and was probably very run down. She looks like a beautiful girl in her pictures. It’s hard to slim down when busy raising multiple children. I hope she pulls through and can get back to good health again. So very terrible to be that sick. 🕊️ He who is without sin cast the first stone🕊️

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
Reply to  seabreeze

I doubt we all would look our best when fighting for our lives in the hospital.

guest
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guest
2 years ago
Reply to  seabreeze

Oh goodness of course! The point of folks mentioning those things is not to point at the individul who is an elder or obese etc. and shame them gosh no. The point is to give reprieve to those fighting for their basic right to medical freedom and freedom of belief, those who do not fit the description of those suffering who are being force fed the same narrative due to a very very small chance of having any issues. the vaccine also poses risks, Its a gamble either way but some have every right to take a chance and believe the risk of the vaccine is far greater (No long term studies or legal liability). And sure some are wrong, some are unlucky but again its a risk either way and everyone is different.

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
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guest, I agree it is a risk either way and everyone is different, absolutely.

K11111
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K11111
2 years ago

[edit] By the way, some people get cancer and don’t know for years. Does that mean cancers pretty chill, Dr. MacDonald?

K11111
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K11111
2 years ago
Reply to  K11111

Kym, I’m curious. Why was my comment stating what was recently in a police report regarding Cody Mark Macdonald edited but wild speculation and accusations about people, including deceased people is allowed? Seems a bit backwards to me and I just want to understand the rules/logic.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

I can’t believe she survived St Joe’s, covid must be pretty weak , seen people die there with just a broken bone or a stepping on a rusty nail. What kind of care do you expect to get when you pay workers 1980 wages. Stay home , St Joe’s isn’t the answer, steroid inhalers work good and oxygen but the hospital goodbye adios. Does having a miscarriage and dealing with the loss of an unborn child take a toll on the body?

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e fox
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2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Consumed by conspiracy theories claiming that doctors are preventing unvaccinated patients from receiving miracle cures or are even killing them on purpose, some people in anti-vaccine and pro-ivermectin Facebook groups are telling those with Covid-19 to stay away from hospitals and instead try increasingly dangerous at-home treatments, according to posts seen by NBC News over the past few weeks. http://www.nbcnews 9/24/21

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

Did I say doctors are intentionally killing people? Did I say use ivermectin? You assume alot e fox, it’s not a wise trait.

Concerned Citizen
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Concerned Citizen
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

MRSA in hospitals, sports, crowded places like the border are all overlooked and CAN present similar symptoms. Just curious where those figures have been hiding.

Norman Spinran
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Norman Spinran
2 years ago

MRSA usually does NOT present with similar symptoms to Covid. It most commonly presents with skin infection. Also, anyone who presents with a fever will likely have a PCR test, so the two conditions are easily differentiated.

Concerned Citizen
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Concerned Citizen
2 years ago
Reply to  Norman Spinran

My information came from the Mayo Clinic website.

A.D
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A.
2 years ago

Good question.

Jessica
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Jessica
2 years ago

It’s hilarious how people dismiss their risk or that anyone who suffers intensely or dies from covid was “unhealthy.” OUR WHOLE COUNTRY IS UNHEALTHY, PRE COVID!! And vitamin D levels??? Our whole entire COUNTY of Humboldt is consistently vitamin D deficient! Some 27% of American adults who aren’t elderly have a pre existing condition! 61-133 MILLION in total are estimated to have them. And that isn’t even factoring in those who can’t afford to see the doctor or just decide they don’t want see the doctor at all. So again, BEFORE you’re so securely confident in your delusional ability to predict the future, and that in turn has caused you to also developed a false sense of security that “I’ll be fine” maybe, just MAYBE take a second to think about somebody else. Yeah, I know it’s hard to move from your own priorities and self absorbed existence, but even if YOU do end up fine, it’s extremely likely you’re gonna pass it to someone you claim to “love” who isn’t gonna be so lucky. How, after so long of covid this shit goes over people’s heads, I don’t know!!! It’s either above your level of comprehension or you’re selfish AF. Either way, don’t be confused it’s people like YOU that are making this worse and drag out for EVERYBODY.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Jessica

You are misunderstanding the cause to not vaccinate and being quite rude to this person who is making logical points. Many people do not trust the numbers are an accurate reflection of what is happening. Many people are suspect that those who are vaccinated are more at risk of death and complications and are the reason it’s spreading more rapidly and are causing new variants. People who are vaccinated are getting COVID spreading it and dying from it. Also People who are partially vaccinated are counted as not vaccinated and I see them at risk the most and this points to the numbers not being accurate.

As a woman specifically I don’t trust the vaccine bc there were never any tests on women’s reproductive health because women and minorities do not matter much to our healthcare system- it wasn’t important they said. Finally this month they began the first study on this because the vaccine IS causing harm to the reproductive health of women. “It’s not important” to study this before they dose everyone? Yikes.

Please have compassion for everyone’s various life experiences that bring them to their own conclusions about their own health. I am a care worker for the elderly and have a young child and I get told daily I hate the elderly and children and want to kill them and I’m frankly sick of it. Please stop with the ignorance and hate.

Ps my son got COVID from someone who was just vaccinated and I was exposed but didn’t get it bc I am not vaccinated and healthy. There are many reasons to be suspect.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
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So you should avoid known medical prevention measures but you have no problem with the significant risk of being harmed (or killed) by Covid? Exactly how much proof do you and your kind need? Perhaps if you never left your house and isolated permanently you would not need to worry about contracting any illness, getting in a car/train/plane accident, being hit by a bus and so on. But you still might get cancer or have your house burn down. Even if you are healthy.

Guest
Guest
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2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

Not everyone uses western medicine or views their health in that way. It’s like forcing religion on others. I go to my garden for good health not to injections.

I am “Avoiding a known medical prevention” that hasn’t been studied long term or on women adequately yet, from a system that has been around for ~200 years yes. I’m using known all natural prevention methods which have been used for thousands of years. Feels like you all want to burn us at the stake again.

“My kind?” The segregation is so extreme! How do you justify such hate? Isn’t that raising flags for you? The more conversations I have with vaccinated folks the more I wonder if anger is a side effect. I’m genuinely concerned.

Just because I live an all natural lifestyle does not mean I have not been isolating and wearing masks and it doesn’t mean I don’t think the vaccine is appropriate for some. it’s just not the choice I made bc I have low risk of side effects and do not trust western medicine bc of my own experiences with it. I used to have the right to have my own beliefs based on my own experiences. We need to stop generalizing though, it’s super dangerous.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

I think you are more likely to die of cancer or your house burning down, and therefore you shouldn’t inject yourself with harmful materials just because the man said so…

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank you for the data kym! I didn’t mean to imply the spread was more or anything just that there was still spread from vaccinated folks. I really don’t trust the number gathers honestly and I don’t think they are looking at everything. It’s really strange to me that a vaccine wouldnt prevent all spread and deaths. That seems to make it pointless to me. I know it’s not the case for all but I was exposed and was fine. Feels safer for me to not get vaccinated v risk death from a vaccine.

Did you catch this? Women’s health was an afterthought as usual….
“ Our goal is to provide menstruating people with information, mainly as to what to expect, because I think that was the biggest issue: Nobody expected it to affect the menstrual system, because the information wasn’t being collected in the early vaccine studies,” said Bianchi …The coronavirus vaccine trials did not specifically ask participants whether they saw adverse side effects in their menstrual cycles or volumes – an omission that Bianchi attributes to the fact that “the (FDA) emergency use authorization was really focused on critical safety issues” and “changes to your menstrual cycle is really not a life and death issue,” she said.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/women-said-the-covid-vaccine-affected-their-periods-now-more-than-1-6-million-will-go-into-researching-it/%3famp=1

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Gain For Fauci Research….

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, no one being honest believes they vaers captures all adverse events, not even close.

A study at Massachusetts General hospital in the spring found that the incidence of a well known, acute, and fairly immediate adverse vaccine reaction (anaphylaxis) is underreported by between 25 and 100+ times.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777417

2.47/10,000 doses instead of 0.11/10,000.

Just another piece of evidence that indicates that vaers represents a massive underreporting of adverse events. So far zero scientific studies have been presented to indicate the opposite view is sensible. If the undercounting of this acute and well known adverse event is this severe, what does it look like for an unexpected adverse event?

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Yep its required, and all available scientific study on the topic indicates that its still not being done.

Lots of people, including yourself, have pushed this narrative that vaers data is over reporting adverse events. But all of the studies anyone has shared (including the one in my study that showed anaphylaxis being underreported by at least 22x) indicate that the data is a massive under report.

Maybe you’ve seen other data?

“Federal, State, and Local officials require that no citizen cultivate, process, distribute, or use matijuana.”

Ah, I guess all this talk about weed is a bunch of misinformation.

A.D
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A.
2 years ago

Thanks Guest.

A.D
Member
A.
2 years ago

Thanks That Guy in Arcata. The vaxx court has paid out billions of dollars to those with vaccines injuries.

It’s called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compensation_Program

It’s literally called the “Vaccine Injury Program.”

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thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  A.

And it’s notoriously stingy, hard to maneuver, expensive for anyone claiming injury, and demoralizing to families who are dealing with impacted small children.

A.D
Member
A.
2 years ago

Exactly, That Guy in Arcata.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

If someone has a serious anaphylaxis enough to get treated at a medical facility from vaccine, it is unlikely to missed and not reported. However being itchy or getting hives might be missed. Since virtually all such reaction occur within 20 minutes of vaccination, anyone having as much of a reaction as anti vaxxers imply would be noticed at mass vaccination clinic. There would be ambulances running to hospitals from the clinics. And there are not.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Did you read the study that I linked? It was in that study that they found the 20-100+ times underreporting of anaphylaxis in the vaers data.

Why are the vaccine advocates so opposed to accepting the entirety of the data? Even if the risks of injury from. The mrna vaccines are 100x greater than the official story reasonable people could still conclude that it was worth the risk for them personally.

When you deny the data available that doesn’t fit your preconceived picture of things all you do is inhibit your ability to make the best choices for yourself. If we are seeking the truth we don’t need to ignore any of the data available. People need to relearn how to decouple their identity from their conclusions about complex topics, it doesn’t facilitate rational decision making

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

IRS requires folks to declare all income, even if it is received as cash in a paper bag along a dusty gravel road. Sometimes folks simply ignore “requirements”.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

No one is accusing drs of intentionally not reporting anything. The problems identified in the Harvard pilgrim health study were primarily around lack of awareness from physicians, a clunky reporting infrastructure making reporting time consuming for already very busy people, and a failure of health systems and health care education building systems that fit reporting into regular physician work flow.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

No one believes VAERS captures all vaccine adverse reactions. However this analysis also came to the conclusion that “The incidence rate of confirmed anaphylaxis in this study is larger than that reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention based on passive spontaneous reporting methods (0.025-0.11 per 10 000 vaccinations). However, the overall risk of anaphylaxis to an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine remains extremely low and largely comparable to other common health care exposures.”

One reason for this was that it was a survey of medical care workers who were able to identify specific symptoms of anaphylaxis such as itching or hives that maybe non health care workers would not recognize or worry about and report it because they worked in a medical care facility with a specific place to do it. No one died and only one had enough of a reaction to be hospitalized. Certainly nothing like the vast hidden range of deaths or injuries that anti vaxxers imply from the insistence that VAERS is “unreliable.” It is unlikely that deaths or injuries escape VAERS reporting at the rate that itching or hives might.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

The rate of itching and hives underreporting is even higher than the rate of anaphylaxis. And yes, this analysis does not “prove” that the vaccines are too dangerous to take. It simply provides evidence that the risks may be greater than we are led to.believe and that some people may have reason to choose not to accept these injections at this time.

You are choosing to assume that the underreporting of this particular side effect is an outlier based on your own emotional bias, not on sound evidence. This same bias among medical professionals, that vaccination is inherently safe, likely leads to a lot of the underreporting that happens

guest
Guest
guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I really appreciate the information Kym and certainly the sentiment, I know you care 🙂 I get the risks to all right now, really I understand covid is serious, even if I feel the vaccine is more of a risk for us personally.

But really you think its safer for us to get the vaccine still given our circumstances? I just overcame covid exposure without being vaccinated and my son had virtually no symptoms (runny nose) and was also fine. He was exposed to a vaccinated person too which I think is where he got covid. Im still in my fertile years of life and the effects to the reproductive system are uncertain in addition to the long term effects to all. It seems super risky to me because I know a lot about the history of these companies who produce the vaccine too.

Ive got to be honest I read quite a bit on the issue but I dont believe anything 100% on this matter on either side (beyond firsthand experiences of trusted friends- which are concerning amongst the vaccinated folks mainly) because there’s just so much money and manipulation on the line. BUT I did read somewhere that I have 27 times better immunity if I overcame covid naturally vs. getting the vaccine. Did you read otherwise?

All doctors peddle vaccines these days or they get their license taken away essentially, in forced vaccination states like CA. I have friends with vaccine damaged children who cant even get a medical exemption so their child can go to school right now. So many children lost access to school in 2020 when that law changed in CA essentially forcing vaccines on all children.

btw, I just saw something from the Hill about the miscounting as “unvaccinated” folks who were recently vaccinated, Im looking for it still.

Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
Guest
Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Want to make sure you see this from the hill- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyYQrw6ra0

Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
Guest
Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Woah kym this is a must see news clip (from my favorite non corporate funded news program). dr fauchi just said natural immunity is possibly 2xs better than the vaccine and now they are banning the discussion around natural immunity on social media. That raises serious flags. Why would a conversation about something natural be banned, especially when there are so many unknowns? For me, These patterns indicate the intentions of those giving the data to us, the doctors, the cdc and fda are not sincere. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8i9FBzJFvOM

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Does a 29 year old have a higher chance of dying WITH ( got to stick to the wording) covid or winning the lotto? Asking for a few million youngsters. And if your vaccinated why would you care if they aren’t?

Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
Guest
Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Found it. It seems to still be a debate on whether vaccines are effective and that’s according to the mainstream media too. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyYQrw6ra0

Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
Guest
Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Did you see what happened at duke university with the outbreak among the vaccinated mainly?

“ In the first week of classes, 304 undergraduates, 45 graduate students and 15 employees tested positive for COVID-19. All but eight of these individuals were vaccinated, and the vast majority of them are asymptomatic. A small number have minor, cold- and flu-like symptoms, and none have been hospitalized, according to the university.”

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Doesn’t even cause a pause that most of what you say is unreal? That in oder to believe as you do, you must assume almost everyone is lying but then get upset if anyone doubts your word?

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Our goal is to provide menstruating people with information, mainly as to what to expect, because I think that was the biggest issue: Nobody expected it to affect the menstrual system, because the information wasn’t being collected in the early vaccine studies,” said Bianchi

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Just click the link above and read the article. It’s not a conspiracy theory, women’s health was not specifically considered

Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
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Guest, am I 1 or 2 sorry :)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I never said it caused infertility. It impacts our cycles certainly though, that’s a huge deal. Even with not being vaccinated I was impacted by vaccinated women’s cycle changes. Not because of some strange conspiracy theory but simply bc women’s cycles link up.

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Well said Guest.

Good point about the partially vaxxed. They need to include the the partially vaxxed as part of the data.

There’s no reason why they couldn’t include whether or not the infected, hospitalized, etc. are partially vaxxed.

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
Reply to  Jessica

Exactly, Jessica 👍

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Jessica

Lock Fauci Up

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  Jessica

Good point about the vitamin D levels.

GET VACCINATED!!
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GET VACCINATED!!
2 years ago

Oh, And what are her chances of surviving. They were infected by unvaccinated Trilobites.

Friend of Linda
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Friend of Linda
2 years ago

So I’m am a good friend of Linda and know the family really well. She hasn’t had any other health problems. The virus just hits people differently. On September 3 my daughter spent the night at her house and was home on the4th. Linda told me one of the kids were exposed and just tested positive on that Monday. Tuesday my daughter tested negative and Thursday negative. We never got it. Then she got it and it got her bad as you can see. The rest of her family had mild symptoms. So please don’t assume things like underlying health problems. What she is dealing with is from the virus. She chooses to tell her story because no one else is brave enough to. She is scared and wants to be well. She is wanting the shot because of how this has effected her. It effects everyone different as we can all tell. Vaccinated or not people are dying or getting really sick or not it just attacks people how it wants to. I am scared for Linda and if I were her I wouldn’t know what to do. There are so many differences with this virus. I can say though what she is going through is cause by the virus.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

This lady has a good friend in you. And it took courage for her to tell her story. I hope you remain safe and she recovers soon.

GET VACCINATED!!
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GET VACCINATED!!
2 years ago

She should ask about the booster shot. Hopefully. her doctor can give her information. And she should ask about the variant virus that infected her. As you know there are at least two serious variants. A couple of others I have read are people’s current protection from the existing vaccines.

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago

Thanks for your post.

Juanita
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Juanita
2 years ago

Victim blaming is a sport for really creepy & mean people.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago

The vit D thing turned out to be a nothing burger. Most people are low on vit D. SO when it was found that most people in the ICU with covid were low on vit D that was to be expected. There was no difference in the rate of vit D deficiency in the general public and those with sever covid 19.

Most people should take vit D, but in no way is it a viable alternative or equal defense to vacination.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  hmm

I agree about vitamin D. I take it as a supplement because the sun and I don’t get along (I don’t tan I burst into flames) and for my bone health.

Cali Grown
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Cali Grown
2 years ago

Low Vitamin D Levels means lower Calcium levels and a more acidic rather than alkaline system which means you are way more likely to get sick with an acidic body PH. Simple health fact….
Calcium with Vitamin d increases your immunity from most diseases including Covid.
No wonder many in ER for Covid had low Vit D and hence low calcium levels which means they were acidic when they caught the covid. If you eat lots of junk food and processed foods chances are your body if acidic. Simple logic

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Cali Grown

I do also take calcium. Thanks.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Cali Grown

Do you know that the patients had low calcium levels and were therefore “acidic”? Just wondering where this info is coming from.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Madrone32

I have no idea. I was just supporting taking Vitamin D (and calcium) as a general rule, especially in regions without a lot of sunlight.

MaM
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MaM
2 years ago

Ignorant comment.

DILLIGAFF
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DILLIGAFF
2 years ago

More Crap spewed by the Aluminum Hattie Lobby!!!

justanotherperson
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justanotherperson
2 years ago

troll. don’t be a disingenuous dick. I have had covid myself. I’m very, very healthy, vaccinated, under 40, have 0 comorbidities, and got laid up for almost 2 weeks. 6 weeks later, I’m still feeling pretty rough. chest xrays showed lung damage on both my wife and I (who have never been smokers). we are using inhalers prescribed to folks with COPD. I also work in community/social services in the region, interacting with many individuals and families, and don’t even know dozens of people who have gotten covid and been perfectly fine. I know a few, but I know more who got pretty sick, definitely not dozens. I’m friends with people in various regions of the US and across the world and still can’t say I know dozens of people who have gotten covid, let alone gotten it not known they’ve had it

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I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

Obviously your experiences are real and valid but no one else’s are.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

I am so sorry that happened to you guys!! Thank you for sharing your story, it’s all I can trust these days. Did you get the vaccine and then get covid or was it the other way around?

Sending tons of blessings for a quick recovery!!

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

It is both impolite and against Kym’s rules to call someone else an idiot.

The Real Brian
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

It is also accurate at times.

Cali Grown
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Cali Grown
2 years ago

Obviously unhealthy or over weight… Lets not forget that the media has many terrified of the virus, so when they catch it the physiological reaction is 10 times worse! If you believe it will kill you then it likely will kill you… if you believe it is relatively minor like a cold.. then chances are you will quickly get over the virus. Much of our healing and health is physiological. Just like taking a placebo pill your mindset of confidence or fear plays a huge role in your bodies ability to fight this illness. Stay healthy, exercise , eat leafy greens and veggies chicken and fish.. stay away from pork and red meat. Take your vitamins and immuno boosters like Stamets 7 Mushroom Mycelium and keep positive and stay our of the fear campaign by turning off your TV sets… reduce stress by taking walks and spending time in healthy ecosystems of nature. Take loving care of one another. Your health and your choosing to get vaccinated or not is solely up to you. Its your choice!

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Cali Grown

“If you believe it will kill you then will it likely kill you.” Wow. That makes things so much simpler. I guess we don’t need doctors any more.

Athena
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Athena
2 years ago

Oh sweetheart, I love you so much. Can’t wait till you are back home and I can give you a huge hug. Stay strong hon. We all love you so much!

Treated 9000
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Treated 9000
2 years ago
Reply to  Athena

Please wier your mask, if you are crazy enough to hug anyone, never mind a former covid victim. Remember 6 feet means 6 feet , mask even when vaxxed, stay healthy or get healthy, excessive weight is often a death sentence along with covid, and isolate if you allow anyone in your space, regardless if you are vaxxed or not after going into stores with regurgitated air. It’s never going away. It’s the new norm, gets used to the isolation and use it to become self aware, learn new hobbies, and learn to love yourself, so you can actually enjoy being alive.

glen
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glen
2 years ago
Reply to  Treated 9000

Obviously, the hug comes after recovery, and I’m sure this person is capable of loving themselves and not needing all of your condescending advice.

Big rick
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Big rick
2 years ago
Reply to  Treated 9000

How have you lived your entire life being so scared? Honestly, how do you live day by day with so much fear flowing through your blood?

Fear flows from brain to mouth
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Fear flows from brain to mouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Big rick

You project your toughness like a frightened poodle.
Dude maybe the vaccine is for you. If this stuff gets you all freaked out, the vaccine will at least keep you out of the hospital.

Jessica
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Jessica
2 years ago
Reply to  Big rick

There’s a HUGE ASS difference between recognizing a legit and present danger and behaving accordingly and “living your life in fear.” That’s called intelligence. If you’re afraid, that’s on you, and there’s therapy for that.

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago
Reply to  Big rick

Is it scared or choosing to be AWARE?

Nick
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Nick
2 years ago
Reply to  Treated 9000

It’s amazing 50-100 thousand people can fill football stadiums all over the country and the world hasn’t ended. Can’t even remember the last time I heard “super spreader” lol. I suggest you travel, get out of humboldt and you will realize the rest of the country is moving on.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Head on down to Florida. No super spreaders going on there, right Nick?
It’s all just a big fat LOL.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

For some of them, it surely has ended. A story about blame games among politicians-
“Today in my state, Washington citizens in many cases cannot get heart surgery, cannot get cancer surgery that they need, because we are having to take too many people of unvaccinated nature and unmasked, many of whom come from Idaho, and that’s just maddening frankly,” Inslee told MSNBC last week, according to The Hill.”
https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/9/24/22689535/washington-idaho-covid-19-patients-hospitals

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Welcome to the new normal.

Spend your life and time like there will be no safety net.

No guarantees.

Madrone32
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Madrone32
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

A third of the population of Europe died from Bubonic Plague and the world didn’t end. That doesn’t mean you would want to catch bubonic plague.

Shelly Cooper
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Shelly Cooper
2 years ago
Reply to  Treated 9000

You seem like a wonderful person.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago

Pleading for a better level of health education and awareness. I haven’t been to Greece in 25 years, but my friend died of a heart attack while riding his mountain in Spain. After taking a vaccine to travel unrestricted. He’s dead after Vax, So are many people die every day, we are all different inside and out, do your research and keep on living til you can’t.

Fear flows from brain to mouth
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Fear flows from brain to mouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

Ok logic fault detected. You offer correlation without causation. Most of us reading this would get a heart attack riding a “mountain” in Spain. For Christ’s sake, they have hams hanging in the Barcelona airport! If I died in a plane wreck on my way to Spain after getting vaccinated, what would be the cause? Did the vaccine, somehow entice him to travel? Or did he want to travel, thus requiring the vaccine?

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago

“Most of us reading this would get a heart attack riding a “mountain” in Spain”

Thats all I needed to hear to prove how bad of shape most people are in.

Mt friend was active and took one for the team.

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Joe
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Joe
2 years ago

What if you died in a plane crash on the way to Spain and tested positive for the cov

grey fox
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grey fox
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

Riding mountains can be pretty, pretty dangerous.

Shelly Cooper
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Shelly Cooper
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

They usually buck me off within 8 seconds.

Tavascan!
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Tavascan!
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

To be fair, maybe he was snowboarding in the Pyranees.

efox
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efox
2 years ago
Reply to  Tavascan!

Stop it you two. You are having way to much fun with this.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago

You don’t know fear or depression until you face losing someone you love.

We sincerely hope Ms Urbina recovers and the rest of her people stay well…

Taking the vaccine does not guarantee a COVID-Free life, but it gives you a jump on fighting off the infection.

COVID Vaccination is your best tool, it’s our most evolved answer, and we know that the vaccine is saving lives.

Get vaccinated now.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Weren’t you and others wishing death on the unvaxxed??

Local
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Local
2 years ago

Get vaccinated, people are dying because the hospitals are full.

James
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James
2 years ago

Stupid is as stupid does. How many of these videos must we watch?

Truth
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Truth
2 years ago
Reply to  James

Kim you should be ashamed of yourself for publishing such trash. Next time you need to beg for money just do everyone a favor a quit. The community would be better without you

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Calm, cool, collected reply. Whats your secret? I would be tempted to go nuclear on such a rude, misinformed comment.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

You go nuclear when you see people spraying water at airplanes ….

efox
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efox
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

And yes wasting water sets me off. That picture was taken in Las Vegas, which is in the middle of a fucking desert. 70% of Nevada’s water comes from Colorado River diversion. How can you justify spraying water over an airplane in an ad acceptable?. In the future wars won’t be fought over oil, they will be fought over water.

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e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  efox

Also us redheads are known for going nuclear at times. For me personally it can come on in an instant and then disappear just as quickly. Like a lightning strike. But don’t worry, my therapist says I am much better now.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  efox

Air travel in general comes with a huge environmental impact, even without wasting water. Air travel is for folks who don’t care about their carbon footprint.

c u 2morrowD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

so there have been no technological advancements in the air travel industry in the past fifty years ?

Dot
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Dot
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth

You complaining she doesn’t censor the comments, right?

Martin
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Martin
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth

Truth, you speak trash, and have a nerve treating Kim in that fashion. The fact is our community would be better off if people like you moved to Kabul and joined the Taliban. Try using freedom of speech in a positive way please!

Gggg
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Gggg
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth

Way to be a total jerk, how about instead of a rude comment like that you don’t read these articles or comments and keep your BS to yourself. Sounds like the community would be better without you

Truth
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Truth
2 years ago
Reply to  James

It changed the spelling from kym to kim… not me

Juanita
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Juanita
2 years ago
Reply to  James

You don’t need to watch.

Martin
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Martin
2 years ago
Reply to  James

James, no one made you watch!

Zipline
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Zipline
2 years ago

It’s not just about you. You have been vaccinated all your life. Probably wouldn’t be here now but for all the vaccinations you have received over your life. Not getting vaccinated is childish and selfish. It’s not about you. It’s about everyone else. Hypocrisy is rampant. Self centered people who only care about themselves are the ones not vaccinated.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Right now, being in the hospital struggling to breathe does pretty make give this all about her. Leave the nagging off for the moment- she’s taking the effort to make it more about others.

Mr and Mrs unjabbed
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Zipline

Its about everyone else? False vaccine only protects you it doesn’t stop spread. Wow you have short memories.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Protecting me means I am less likely to take up space in a hospital. Good enough.

Fear flows from brain to mouth
Guest
Fear flows from brain to mouth
2 years ago

Is it “false” or does it “only protect you”? I got vaccinated so that I don’t die. I could be covid positive, and asymptomatic, with or without the vaccine. If you want to stand close while I yell drunken stories at you, i could pass it on. So yeah the vax protects me, but also my ability to help provide for my family a little bit longer. The vaccine is free and safe, by the numbers. Covid is expensive and dangerous, by the numbers. Your choice.

Gggg
Guest
Gggg
2 years ago

So did you not receive a polio, measles, rubella, etc vaccine? It’s called science and our world progresses with it. Lots of anti vax people wishing they had done different when they are on their death bed. When our hospitals are too full of unvaccinated covid patients and people who come to get treatment such as heart attack, cancer treatment or simple procedures if left unchecked can lead to sepsis are being directly affected by your “choice” and freedom. It’s pure selfishness

WTF
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WTF
2 years ago

This was tough to watch. I hope you feel better soon. For those watching and are non-vaccinated…go out and get the vaccine. It works and saves lives and suffering not only for you but those who love you

fishkiller
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fishkiller
2 years ago

Sorry this woman is struggling, some early treatment (IVM) would probably have been wise.

c u 2morrowD
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

wow

Yeah Ok
Guest
Yeah Ok
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

No, that’s terrible advice. Stay away from IVM, and anyone who thinks it’s a good idea. You have a respiratory virus, not worms. It’s the same train of thought as those who hoarded toilet paper at the beginning.

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah Ok

The madness continues. Costco said it will limit consumers’ purchase of items including toilet paper, paper towels, and bottled water due to supply chain issues and demand generated by the rise of the Delta varianthttp://www.usatoday.com 9/24/21

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah Ok

Joe Rogan didn’t go to the hospital. I like those apples.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah Ok

Hahaha.. those same people are the first ones who got vaxxed

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Vaccinated people still get Covid.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Some do. Just fewer of them end up in the hospital.

CA Gal
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CA Gal
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

AND fewer vaccinated die!!

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago

High drama; ragged gasps! This should drive some clicks. Still waiting on the interviews with unvaxxed at peace with their decision.

It purely speculation to claim “I wouldn’t have ended up like this with the vaccine.”

And, if we use the same “logic” that complacent physicians or members of the community use when analyzing adverse reactions to the injections; oh your suffering heart problems? They were probably an underlying problem before you got sick. See how that works?

Considering the lifestyle driven stats that are PREEXISTING in our country, and are behind the majority of serious cases and hospitalizations that are driving this pandemic, that speculation would actually be accurate.

I’m off to count future Covid-victim sob stories at KFC, or in the never ending line-of-death at the IN and OUT.

For reference-

Foods That Are Bad for Your Heart:

Sugar, Salt, Fat.
Over time, high amounts of salt, sugar, saturated fat, and refined carbs raise your risk for a heart attack or stroke. …
Bacon. …
Red Meat. …
Soda. …
Baked Goods. …
Processed Meats. …
White Rice, Bread, and Pasta. …
Pizza.

I like stars
Guest
I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Pick me up some Taco Bell while you’re out?

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

I will fight for my right to eat donuts! Mmmmm donuts

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Look in the mirror again. It’s speculation that your orthorexia is showing.

Got logic ?
Guest
Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Hi auntie. The doctor that coined that MEANINGLESS non-diagnosis is a quack!!

When one symptom of orthoexia is that “food regarded primarily as source of health rather than pleasure, ” you know that guy, and anybody that subscribes to his theory, is mental.

Regarding food primarily as a source of pleasure rather than health is what got our nation into the mess we are in!

He sounds like a doctor that prefers his clients to remain sickly, fat, and needing to be propped up with prescription medicines and invasive procedures. Fuk that. 💊 💉

🍓🍍🍇🍉🍏🍊🥝🥑🥒🍓🌽🍅🍠🥑🫑🍆🥜🥕🥔🥒🥬🍋🥥🥭🍍🍑🍑🍑🍐🍆

Look in the mirror? A moon face 🌚 staring back, tells us it’s time to skip some meals, and move the body.

Shelly Cooper
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Shelly Cooper
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Wow you know so much more than the most people. Please tell us more. I am tingling with anticipation.

Got logic ?
Guest
Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Shelly Cooper

Attacking commentors with snarky insults, instead of discussing ideas is allowed for you. The deck is stacked that way.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Your post was full of snark yet there it is. Like most other things, seeing the mote in another’s eye while missing the beam their own. My idea is that you are determined to blame 75% of the population for their illness without any recognition of the part that anti vaxxer misinformation plays in refusing vaccination. Whether these people are obese or not, promulgating ideas like DNA manipulation, anti government conspiracy theories, etc are wrong. In fact for fat people getting vaccination is more important . Not exposing them to illness is more important. And there is almost zero reason to fear vaccination. Yet you prefer to exaggerate the burden they create in order to vent your resentment.

Jean Lopez
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Jean Lopez
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Don’t forget alcohol and smoking. The two biggies. It cannot be said often enough.

Got logic ?
Guest
Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Jean Lopez

Alcohol especially. But the alcohol or smoking status of the main characters in these one sided diatribes is never mentioned. Booze is a central fixture in our culture and it comes at a huge cost. But hey, the “shots” fix everything!

https://gizmodo.com/study-alcohol-linked-to-more-than-700-000-cancer-cases-1847298843/amp

Got logic ?
Guest
Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

A spelling tutorial?

(Nice work on slipping in a personal dig, not discussing ideas and still dodging moderation / editing hammer!)

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

I hope she recovers fully.

That’s a tough deck of cards she went through.

I really appreciate her sharing her story, and thank you too Kym.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

All you guys were wishing death on unvaxxed people now you care? Gimme a break

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

No. Some people might think that it would be just if anti vaxxers suffered the results of their wildly misinformed beliefs but that is not the same as “wishing death” on them. It is exactly the same concept that anti vaxxers lay on everyone when they say vaccines will cause death in a year. Or that vaccinated people are causing the spread of more virulent variations. Or that fat people are the ones dying from covid. Or any other the other things they blame.

A big difference of course is that millions have been vaccinated without these dire prognostications coming true while anti vaxxers take it as a personal insult when anyone points out the it’s the unvaccinating filling the hospitals. In order to continue to believe their own nonsense, anti vaxxers are then forced to call people who believe in vaccinate liars.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

There were plenty of comments on these boards saying that the unvaccinated (like this woman) should not be permitted medical treatment. Including from brian.

Also, you say that “anti-vaxxers” (is that you auntie?) Claim people will die from the vaccine in a year but that “these dire prognostications” haven’t come true. But it hasn’t been a year since almost anyone received the vaccine.

I personally don’t think that everyone will die in a year from the vaccine. I think there’s a lot of poorly informed fear mongering from both sides of this whole argument. My money is on the vast majority of the currently living population still being here in 5 years, regardless of their vaccination status

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Sooner or later, any ideology that keeps moving the timeframe for their dire prophecies to another future date is going to lose credibility. And when you sit in their boat, rowing for their agenda full tilt, you do too.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Again, the claims I have seen that are most dire are predicting some terrible outcome in 2-5 years from the vaccines. I don’t happen to agree with those predictions but I’m also not silly enough to say they haven’t come true since that time frame hasn’t passed yet.

If, in 2-5 years, these dire predictions haven’t come true and these same people have moved to saying they will come true further down the line, then your accusations will carry some weight. Right now you are just asserting that people are not only wrong, but that they have been proven wrong by the passage of time. And that isn’t true.

We will all have a much clearer understanding of the impact of these injections in a couple years. Anyone making absolute claims about them, whether it is that they are absolutely safe or that they are absolutely dangerous is jumping the gun and running the risk of looking really foolish once more data has been collected

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago

EMPEROR XI THANKS YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE

Tristan
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Tristan
2 years ago

Gotta love the commentators saying “well other things kill you too!” Yeah! and as a society we are trying to tackle it! Some person posting that bacon is bad for your heart, LMFAO! How do you people take yourselves seriously? Really? Do you practice in front of a mirror while saluting Hannity?

Big rick
Guest
Big rick
2 years ago
Reply to  Tristan

Well if bacon is bad for my heart I better go get an experimental vaccine from some pharmaceutical company who absolutely 100% un-sarcastically really truly has Humanities best interest in their mind!

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Big rick

Yes. If you do things that are not perfectly healthful, then be sure to get vaccinated. It ups the odds in your favor.

Of course those who treat their bodies as temples also need to get vaccinated because it is a delusion that no one ever gets sick in a temple. But since there are so few of them, if they get sick, it won’t overwhelm the hospitals when they don’t. The harm they do comes from misleading others more than their own illnesses.

Mr and Mrs unjabbed
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Tristan

How do we take ourselves seriously? Buy understanding paradoxes and logic. She doesn’t look healthy or 29. How many kids? Kids cause stress. Stress in the number one killer not covid. Open your fucking eye balls people. Your logic is pathetic.

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Flash Gordon
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Flash Gordon
2 years ago

I’m betting you probably don’t look “healthy”, either. Arrogant, selfish asshole comment!

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Flash Gordon

Wow, quite a crazy response to Mr & Mrs comment. She is right …..she does not look to be at a healthy weight. It’s called an objective observation. Nothing selfish about it. It may or may not have been a factor in her winding up in the hospital but my guess is it was based on the CDC statistics.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You may be right or wrong about this woman and her weight. But surely you are wrong to go on and on about it so irrationally in public comments. The only reason for the way it’s phrased is to blame her for getting sick enough to be in the hospital. So be it. If weight is an issue in three quarters of people with severe disease, then the corollary is that it is not in the other quarter. And yet both groups are there. That is more than enough to recommend vaccination for both groups.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Is your answer to not have children or simply not care about them so they don’t cause stress? Even anti vaxxers can’t be that delusional.

Fear flows from brain to mouth
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Fear flows from brain to mouth
2 years ago

She looked healthy in Greece. She looks scared and sick with covid. You require mental gymnastics, and cognitive dissonance to call her names, because she is fit, young and sick. You simply don’t know enough about germ theory to understand what’s happening around you. That’s fine. Do what you want. What’s wrong is going out of your way to convince people the vaccine is bad, just to act like you are smarter and stronger than everyone else. Beware. Pride goeth before a fall.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago

Mr & Mrs had no name calling. It was the reposes to her post that did. My guess is these nasty remarks are by people who have BMI above ideal. ? The subject of the story does not look healthy in the photos in Greece. She looks happy and that is wonderful but she is very overweight. And yes, I am vaccinated but don’t believe healthy people of their appropriate weight need to be.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago

Vaccines are being pushed in a manner that goes against the nature of herd immunity for the entire population. You clearly need to back up and recognize the vaccine is best for those who the most vulnerable, and everyone else needs to power up on an anti inflammatory lifestyle. This ia how to strengthen your families and communities. Forgot about the lack of focus on diet and targeted supplementation from our health leaders the past 18 months.

USRDA is a joke, and from what I understand about (the) health awareness of our educational system is a testament to where we currently reside on a national level.

People have a real hard time understanding root causes.

The infusion will not get you to the summit of everest, will not get you anywhere in life, with out a strong grasp of the mind body connection.

If you refuse to accept the hard work needed to live a disciplined life, then you will suffer the consequences.

Don’t blame anyone else for your lifestyle.

Big rick
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Big rick
2 years ago

Maybe if the doctors gave her hydroxychloroquine and vitamin C she probably can make a really fast come back like I did without even going to the hospital.

Don’t let them put you on a respirator either because the covid flu turns into viral pneumonia and the respirator machine forces the fluid deeper into your lungs and drowns you to death and that’s why people die on a respirator.

hmm
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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Big rick

I cant tell if you are trolling or not. If you are you should probably dial it back in order to sound more realistic.

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Big rick

Personaly I use witchcraft and voodoo

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago

This is absolutely crazy. She’s expressing her experience telling you how sick she’s been. Your reply…. saying take Ivermectin. Oh I know people who didn’t get that sick what the hell people are dying from taking ivermectin wrap your brain around that.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

They don’t care. They are now internet virologists, epidemiologists, dieticians, and doctors. Armchair experts that “did their research “. Their bedside manner may be lacking but by god they, and only they , know the truth about everything concerning Covid.
They will, in their infinite knowledge, dispense their extensive internet medical training in each and every article.

onrust
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onrust
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

I call them fifteen minute experts. Fifteen minutes in a web browser on a computer and now they can tell everyone else what to do. It just about as good as a degree from a Trump school.

Antichrist
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Antichrist
2 years ago

People are also dying from side effects of the vax as well. The sad truth is no one truly understands about life is that death is also a part of life every breath you take and every heartbeat is just one closer to that final one . Regardless of what anyone thinks the clock is set by the universe and there is nothing you can do to extend that clock. The only things you can do that has any effect on your life is how you spend those heartbeats live unhealthy your heartbeats will be spent in pain , live locked away from others your heartbeats will be painful and Lonely . Thinking that you or we are all powerful that we are truly in control or that the government or anyone else can do anything to change the number of heartbeats is a mental illness.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Antichrist

“People are also dying from side effects of the vax as well.”

Liar

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

This !!

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Do you believe that anyone has died from side effects of any of the covid injections?

onrust
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onrust
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

After looking at voluminous documentation on death, it appears that around 6 people actually had a reaction to the vaccine and 3 appear to have died. I will take those odds.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Expand your mind. The game has been rigged the whole time.

The Real Brian
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

Turn off your Xbox.

Live is happening outside.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Xbox, tinderbox, lots of boxes to get trapped in.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

“Freedom! To fill people’s mailboxes, eyes, ears, and brains with commercial rubbish against their will, television programs that are impossible to watch with a sense of coherence. Freedom! To force information on people, taking no account of their right not to accept it or their right to peace of mind. Freedom! To spit in the eyes and souls of passersby with advertisements. Freedom! For publishers and film producers to poison the younger generations with corrupting filth. Freedom! For adolescents of fourteen to eighteen to immerse themselves in idleness and pleasure instead of intensive study and spiritual growth. . . . Freedom! To divulge the defense secrets of one’s country for personal political gain. **

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1994/02/14/the-exile-returns

Entering a world of pain
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Entering a world of pain
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

That was a really good read. Thanks

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  Antichrist

That’s true about the vaxx killing people. According to Vaers, thousands have died due to the vaxx.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

Curious about “Bushytails”, “Aunt Ovine” and “Mike”.

Hope your all good out there.

VMG; thanks for your vaccine comments

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Maybe they’ve given up, I mean, it’s the same goofy shit in every articles threads. Same same same. It gets futile after a while.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Auntie Ovine got tired of having to write two words as an ID and went back to “guest.” But I too have been thinking about Bushytails and hope she’s ok.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

You can’t go with “G”?

(So I’ll read your comments.)

I don’t read many “Guest” comments, along with other common anti-jabber trolls here that I avoid.

ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago

Linda, take black elderberry with zinc. You will be fine in 3 days. Good luck and good health !!

Flash Gordon
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Flash Gordon
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

Oh it’s that easy! You should go tell everyone at the WHO and the CDC! Maybe you’ll get the Nobel prize for medicine!

Elderberry
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Elderberry
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

You’re right ! I felt I was dying as well..
Was sick for 25 days..stuck at home because of the Monument and knob fires..a complete nightmare. On top of that, I’m home alone and power was out. I feel very blessed to be able to be alive to comment on here.
I am now 100 percent back, breathing is good I put on the 15pounds I lost..it was the worst thing I ever went through..now back to the reason Im commenting..the Black elderberry and zinc did the trick I think, someone dropped it off for me and within a few days I was much better!
Wear your mask ! Most are sick for a day or two…but if you’re one of the unlucky one’s like me and Mrs. Urbina, ..take every precaution to not get it..its no joke, Covid kicked my ass big-time!

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
Reply to  Elderberry

Elderberry 👍

lol
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lol
2 years ago
Reply to  ILoveplants

Dumbest thing I’ve read in at least a month.

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  lol

There are lots of internet “doctors” in these comments.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

We finally found a 20 year old , how about all them 90 year olds that fought off covid? No interviews ? Covid like any flu preys on the weak, after a long trip overseas and coming and running ragged raising 4 little ones , then having a miscarriage then dealing with the loss of an unborn child, then going to St Joe’s, of course she got pneumonia. Almost die probably not.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Google “what it’s like to have corona.” There are hundreds of such articles to see. In fact, if you bothered to read this article before criticizing its existence, you would have seen the part where she said she underestimated covid because the rest of he family was not so severely affected. It’s just that warnings of a danger do not include a constant litany of the million times there was no bad effect.

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lol
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Covid is not a flu. If you dont know that then you should not be posting and should instead be reading.

Nick
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Nick
2 years ago

Kym, I have a close friend who had a stroke 3 days after he got the jab. If I had him make a video warning people of the vaccine, will you show it?

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Some look for fame , others don’t.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I figured Humboldt case count would be higher, pretty amazed such a low number of people have poor hygiene.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Lol well that guarantees you won’t be featuring any of THOSE interviews.

I’m wondering where the same unreachable high bar is on these sensationalized Covid victim stories.

Has a doctor verified the patient’s condition and resilience are due solely to the virus?

Has a doctor guaranteed in writing her radical claim that with the vaccine she
“wouldn’t have ended up like this?”

Hmm. Didn’t think so.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

First it’s only anti vaxxers who put up an “unreachable high bar” with their ideas that vaccination has to make everyone impervious to disease before it is acceptable. And second that no one can ever die of a combination of anything in order to say covid caused it. And third that everyone who says vaccinations do good is a liar. Apparently FAT and a liar.

All these sort of commenters are damaging evangelicals in the temples of Self.

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Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

They are simply trying to show the down side of a country that is fat, sick, and nearly dead.

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

You should also provide if person had underlying health conditions,age, smoker, did this person eat healthy, get regular exercise?

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ILoveplants
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ILoveplants
2 years ago
Reply to  e fox

I thought the vaccine was a one size fits all??

Juanita
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Juanita
2 years ago
Reply to  Nick

I have a friend who had a stroke 3 days before they were scheduled for the jab. Coincidence?

The Real Brian
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Juanita

I have a friend named Clark, he takes great photos and doesn’t like Kryptonite.

Sometimes he disappears into the bathroom for hours, and then weird events happen in the area.

Frankly;

I think he is actually Bill Gates.

I made a video detailing all my detailed details.

Will you post it as news?

😂

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Hey that’s cool! She gave me a covid test yesterday

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

Never seen so many hospital pics and videos of a person in the hospital. What gives? A nation after “likes” , see people causing harm to themselves just for a “like” , incredible.

A.D
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A.
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Thanks. Noticed that Lone Ranger. In this article, the person was pictured with a respirator? ventilator?

Who took the picture?

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Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  A.

Selfie obviously.

Because hey, practically dying over here, why not!

{hashtag 15 minutes of fame.}

A.D
Member
A.
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Somebody ill in the hospital, gasping for breath, takes a selfie.

How is that?

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  A.

How indeed. And give lengthy phone interviews too!

Two lane road
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Two lane road
2 years ago

I love how they hunt for the needle in the haystack and put the person in an article pleading with the public to do something they don’t know wether is safe or not. Try putting some of the people that got all screwed up from taking the vaccination on here and let them tell their story. There’s plenty out there that would gladly tell the public about how the shot screwed them up permanently. I personally know of a few, one in my immediate family. How about the ones that the shot killed! Oh yeah, we don’t talk or report about any of that on this website. Perfectly healthy people that stood to live a long life are dead due to the shot, others are dealing with life long issues from the side effects. Quit ignoring that the shot has extremely negative effects on some people and in some cases that’s death!

Martin
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Martin
2 years ago

Linda Urbina, I pray with all my heart that you will beat your Covid, and be as good as new again. Thank you so very much for sharing your story with us. I truly hope it will inspire people to get their Covid shots! God bless you, and get well soon.

doug
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doug
2 years ago

you people just really can’t use your brains can you?

Grammy
Guest
2 years ago

I’ve known Linda since she was 5 years old. I know for a fact that she grew up with plenty of exercise, nutritious food, fresh air, and sunshine, She has always been an active ambitious person. I’ve watched her exercise videos. She was a strong healthy woman. I suggest you Google logical fallacy. I for one think Linda is selfless and brave for sharing her Covid nightmare in hopes that it will prevent this from happening to anyone else. To all the dime store logicians spewing their opinions and fallacies, find a different topic. Rise above all this Linda, we know that you’ll recover and be an even stronger woman than you were. We are praying for you.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Grammy

The miscarriage is the first sign that the body was not healthy.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

That’s cold and misinformed comment considering a good percentage of all conceptions end in miscarriage, most before a women is even aware that she has conceived.

” Among women who know they are pregnant, the miscarriage rate is roughly 10% to 20%, while rates among all fertilisation is around 30% to 50%.”

Chromosomal abnormalities from bogus sperm and countless other glitches in the system cause up to 50% of all conceptions to end in miscarriage!

In fact it’s pretty miraculous you or I were even fully formed and birthed considering all the risks and possible boo-boos along the way!!

Your comment is not surprising tho as women, and our powerful mysterious procreative powers are long feared, man-managed and as in the case of the limited trials prior to vaccine release, given no thought or consideration.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

It is a fact, don’t blame me, if the woman experience’s a miscarriage , why not look at the obvious reason. The body was not capable of carrying another life. It happens. No revisionist necessary

I’m pretty steeped in the ways of witchcraft, so nothing but love for the feminine that embraces the feminine.

Struggle of the strongest lifeforms. Death is the last arbiter of life.

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ElDub
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ElDub
2 years ago

Get the f*****g vaccine.

Rose Potter
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Rose Potter
2 years ago

Will you listen now??
Somehow I’m Doubting it. All these excuses and comments about somebody being unhealthy. People are absolutely ridiculous until they end up in the ICU on a ventilator. What is wrong with people? Is there no hope for intelligence anymore. I truly despair

e fox
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Rose Potter

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” Albert Einstein, German theoretical-physicist (1879-1955.)

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rollin
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rollin
2 years ago

What a sickening propaganda piece. Why don’t you go interview one of the hundreds of thousands of people claiming serious injury from these vaccines? Did anyone in the vaccine cult bother to look at the Pfizer 6 month safety data showing more people died who were vaccinated than the placebo group? Of course you didn’t.

youtu.be/NRP-_2v8mSQ

Do these charts showing ZERO correlation between vaccination and death/hospital rates bother you or are you just going to yell RACIST!

covidreason.substack.com/p/are-vaccinations-really-our-way-out?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozMTQ5MzkyMCwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDE3NjIyMzMsIl8iOiJFOFJMZSIsImlhdCI6MTYzMjUwMDc4MSwiZXhwIjoxNjMyNTA0MzgxLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjQyOTUiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.aWXeGkTB7I4eSgNGyL9_2wnp3ZqsZBAv7-Z4-uIl0p0″ target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>Are Vaccinations REALLY Our Way Out of This Pandemic? – by Justin Hart – Rational Ground (substack.com)

CDC director Rachelle Walensky is an immoral piece of shit, advocating for pregnant women to get this injection when there is scant evidence. The data so far only suggest that the vaccine MAY be safe if administered in the third trimester. Beyond that we know jackshit.

armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/vaccine/vaccinated-pregnant-women-in-1st-or-2nd-trimester-have-81-8-chance-of-miscarriage/” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>Vaccinated Pregnant Women in 1st or 2nd trimester have 81.8% Chance of Miscarriage? | Armstrong Economics

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

As usual you have substituted a link for an actual rebuttal. If you bothered to watch my video, or even 3 minutes of it (starting @ 4 minutes), you would have notice that 8 vax vs 2 unvax died from heart complications, a known side effect of the “vaccine”. Also notable is the 3 vax vs 0 unvax Sepsis related deaths.

I don’t dispute that the injections curb your chances of dying/serious illness from Covid (that may ultimately change). However, if the odds of dying from the vaccine are higher than the odds of dying from covid, it’s not worth getting. And that question is unanswered. VAERS IS BEING COMPLETELY DISMISSED!

The fact that some dickhead from Pfizer claims no deaths were from the “vaccine” is meaningless. He didn’t explain the statistically significant 8 vax vs 3 unvax and 3 vax vs 0 unvax death tolls and the AP didn’t bother to ask, another reason they can be disregarded as leftist hacks. The 2 vs 1 covid death toll (unvax vs vax) is statistically meaningless in a group of 45k.  

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

How can you defend zero liability?

ZERO LIABILITY

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You say you’ve tipped the scale as much as possible but you haven’t even entertained the most conservative assessments of how large of an undercount vaers data is

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I’ve linked multiple studies that show its likely a large undercount. You just… say it’san overcoming because…you want it to be?

guesst
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guesst
2 years ago

You know what’s odd? Nobody really knows. I should think that would be of importance with an experimental vaccine.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  guesst

Yes, it’s unfortunate that the vax proponents insist on demeaning the intelligence of those who come to a different conclusion than them. They choose to overstate the strength of the existing evidence and cast aspersions instead of acknowledging that evidence is scant and reasonable people could come i different conclusions.

I sure wish there was more honesty and respect in this discussion

rollin
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rollin
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

“Where are you coming up with such a skewed set of numbers?”

 From Pfizers own 6 month study trial shown at 4:30 minutes on the video. 8 vax vs 2 unvax heart related deaths, 3 vax vs 0 unvax sepsis related deaths, BOTH known side effects from the shot and we are only at 6 months. No problem with that for you?

“Even if you take every VAERS death as substantiated as having been caused by the COVID vaccine (Which they aren’t)”

You repeatedly ignore the MASSIVE (10-100) underreporting to VAERS while emphasizing the unsubstantiated VAERS deaths, which should be an obviously lower number ( by a factor of tens of thousands!) than the underreporting. WHY?

” I’ve given your side every advantage. I’ve tipped the scale further than is possible for even the most rabid sceptic… And the numbers are still strongly in favor of getting the vaccine.”

No you haven’t, No you didn’t, No they’re not!  

Marilyn
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Marilyn
2 years ago

Thank you , Linda, for sharing your awful experience. I hope your story changes just one mind. Get better soon so you can go home to your babies.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

My condolences on the loss of your pregnancy. Thank you for using your energy and breath to reach out and inform others of how unpredictable Covid’s effects are. I hope you begin feeling better soon, and can go home to your kids.

dawni
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dawni
2 years ago

“Nobody believes this COVID”, “Everybody is in denial. We are all afraid of the vaccine”.
Well speak for yourself. I truly believe this COVID. It is affecting everyone the world over. What more proof do you need? Because I am older maybe I am not afraid of the vaccine.
I am truly proud of my son who works in Microbiology. I wear a mask and vaccine up to Honor him and all the long hard years he has invested in his career.
I’m interested if your concerns and fears of the vaccine are truly based in Science, or hearsay?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  dawni

Right on!

Don’t mind the Covid deniar anti vaccine trolls who may attack your comment.

It was a pleasure to read it.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  dawni

Working in microbiology doesnt nesseccarily mean you latch on to and believe the mainstream narratives about a virus…

dawni
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dawni
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

you are correct, probably. But if they read enoughod the research and talk to enough co-horts in all different walks of research the bet is Most people working in Science and Medicine have a lot of respect for vaccines and understand the mRNA better than a lot of laymen..

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  dawni

Microbiology probably means they make mean compost tea forntheir

Mendocino Mamma
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Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago

Anybody remember Typhoid Mary? If you cannot get vaccinated, nor wear a mask or be tested at least weekly HELLO! WAKE UP!! if you choose not to be vaccinate,mask or be tested consistently do not go around people that don’t live in your direct household.
At the end of it all it IS ABOUT RIGHTS.
The right to protect ourselves.
THE RIGHT TO LUFE! ❤
EH…Screw it all…
No more stop signs, seatbelts, healthcare, food safety, any guidelines, nor consumer protections, density concerns, building code considerations screw it all.
Do whatever the hell ya want with nothing to guide, contorl, contain, mitigate or enforce.NO COMPLAINING! ❤
What could go wrong?

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Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago

Climate change controllers will make being obese a crime.

Or you just pay more $$$

Slim
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Slim
2 years ago

Wonder if the miscarriage plays a strong role as a co-factor to the impact the virus is having on her.

Monica Pereira
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Monica Pereira
2 years ago

Linda – I wish you a full recovery & that you get a vaccine as soon as you are able.

I feel for your children. They must be very scared about the possibility of losing their mother.

Gold Member
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Gold Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Monica Pereira

Now she has antibodies. Why vaccinate?

Mendocino Mamma
Guest
Mendocino Mamma
2 years ago

Okay. This is horrible this poor young woman is having to go through this from choices. We shirk the responsible and do not recognize because we do not have something to compare it to.
Then on top of that not being socially responsible masking, getting vaccinated. If you choose not to get vaccinated it is of the utmost importance to get tested at least weekly . You do not want to be killing people or passing it to people because you’re not aware you are infected and contagious . Kill the chick in the grocery store in the line behind you because you didn’t know you had it and she got very ill and died . If you choose not to vaccinate mask or get tested it’s really wise to be avoiding people that are not in your household..
It’s about our right to being able to be protected to feel safe. It’s a right to life.❤

A right to not die from.other’s choices that harm.others That is shameful, selfish accions at best.

Forget it. Ok screw it no more laws, no more health care, no more rules, no more vaccine, no more stop signs, no more seatbelts, no more health care, no more laws or consumer protections, no more building codes or need for safety of structures forget it all just do whatever y’all want. Nothing could go wrong.

Anybody got some snake oil for sale??? Whats in it IDK? Could ot kill me IDK. Ok yeah I WANT THAT!!!

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Pushyfails
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Pushyfails
2 years ago

Kym.. it’s so ridiculously obvious & funny how the votes have suddenly gone the other way since your new log in policy. Can’t we just be real here? We know the truth. Just more red flags.

Wishing this lady a healthy recovery.

Pushyfails
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Pushyfails
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I didn’t think it was possible to vote on your own comment let alone more than once. But ok, I understand. Also I’m more of a conserberal. I choose what’s right & wrong from each side. In the past few years I’ve noticed the left is just straight evil! Coming from the background you come from, I would think you’d see that too.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Life is more than what politics you agree or disagree with

This is problem with the older generations trying to continue their political divisions into the next generation instead of shifting the paradigm.

Entering a world of pain
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Entering a world of pain
2 years ago

Wondering if even one person here is aware this woman might be reading these comments. I’m seeing some pretty callous shit here.
I for one wish you a full recovery. I’m sure not a single person would want to be in your shoes. And thank you for candidly sharing your experience.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago

It’s funny you say that ebcause I’ve noticed a number of commenters who very recently have said lots of death wishy horrible stuff about those who are not vaccinated against covid… Now they spin a different tune.

Entering a world of pain
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Entering a world of pain
2 years ago
Reply to  Misguidedyouth

Yeah they’re the same commenters that are on here bragging about getting a booster shot & can’t wait to suck up more needed resources with a 4th or 5th or……Saying the unvaxxed are gonna create a whole new variant & demonizing people when the real risk is places like Africa that have a 17% vaccine rate. If any new mega-variants are popping up in putting my money on places like that

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

Don’t read the comments if you don’t want to know what folks really think. Easy peasy.

Entering a world of pain
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Entering a world of pain
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Hi was pointing out this woman could be reading these comments since she is the center of the story and that callous cocksuckers should grow a heart

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

Yes. I understood. I was pointing out that she should not read the comments if she doesn’t want to know what people think. Reading the comments is optional for all of us, including the subjects of the story.

Entering a world of pain
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Entering a world of pain
2 years ago
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Fair enough. I’d bet a huge majority come here for the comments. Sometimes they’re a bit over the top, mine included

Rain
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Rain
2 years ago

So is scotia elementary still open? Because my son goes to riodell and I’m pregnet have been very sick dealing with nausea and the air quality heat but I sure don’t want to take a chance with covid right now I’m already hacking trouble keeping up with my kid who has adhd and wants to play outside but dose not listen and the manager getting on my case about how I need to be outside with him at all times because he is six… even though there are kids outside even younger than mine with the parents able to keep there door open , but my kid is very hyper loud and rides his bike on the sidewalk so I am sick as fk and the weather is hot my kid don’t listen and I just can’t get covid rite now I have no one who will help me so should my kid stay in school

Scooter
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Scooter
2 years ago

Self inflicted. Insurance should bail and let her pay the bill for her ICU stay. Hope she lives.

yep
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yep
2 years ago
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I agree. I feel sorry for her but the insurance company should not be on the hook for people who chose to not get vaccinated.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

Avoiding KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut would probably be a better plan for health.

Poster formerly known as Matt
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Poster formerly known as Matt
2 years ago

Get well soon! We’re rooting for you Linda!

The Real Brian
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2 years ago

“The CDC has analyzed the risk-benefit trade-off and found that for every million doses administered of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines for people ages 12 to 29, approximately 6 deaths, 138 ICU admissions, 560 hospitalizations and 11,000 infections from COVID-19 will be avoided,” he notes. “This comes at the ‘cost’ of 39 to 47 cases of myocarditis, almost all of which are mild and do not cause long-term heart problems.

Strictly considering myocarditis risk and ignoring the other severe problems from COVID-19, people under 25 years old are 7 to 37 times more likely to get myocarditis from infection with COVID-19 than they are from the vaccine.”

Norman Spinran
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Norman Spinran
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

The situation for vaccine deaths is the similar. Deaths from Covid are common, deaths from the vaccine are exceedingly rare.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

He needs to post on Gab

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago

Also from that linked article -“There are people who are COVID long-haulers, in their 30s, who are now on a ton of heart medication or had valve replacements,” she says. “We’re not seeing those kinds of heart issues with the vaccine — but we’re seeing it with COVID-19.”

Yes this video was removed. The article doesn’t say by whom. And I don’t think that is a good idea. After here it is again. Nothing ever really disappears from the internet. But what could be done is an automatic reroute to a caution about mistaking anecdotal stories for proof before the video plays then back again.

This is one of the great flaws about truth- it rarely is as simply or emotionally appealing as media sites make it seem. Lawyers know that presenting one graphic photo of a damaged child will make juries give unreasonable judgments. It’s hard to get equally all excited about the stats.

Man aged Decline
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Man aged Decline
2 years ago
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“This is one of the great flaws about truth- it rarely is as simply or emotionally appealing as media sites make it seem. ”

The truth is always subjective, but let’s look for a moment at Australia as an indicator of what this pandemic has created in the governing class, as justification for repression of freedom.

It’s abbadabsolutely clear to some people that see covid as the foot soldier for tyranny.

“the inability of the comfortable to imagine the capacities of evil”

Nobel laureate,
Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn

Ernie Branscomb
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2 years ago

Australia’s government should be a warning to all free people.

They are slowly slipping into a totalitarian socialist complete control form of government similar to Cuba.

They didn’t take their citizen’s guns away to protect the populous, they took their guns away to prevent a revolution against an unreasonable government.

Now they have their people under quarantine for covid. What’s next?

At least they will be driving really cool cars in fifty years.

The Real Brian
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2 years ago

Oh gee, 20+ years of no mass public shootings in Australia.

The horror of such tyranny!

Geez Ernie, get a grip man, I bet you didn’t lose a child to a mass shooter who.never should have had a driver’s license let alone person-killing-tool-made-easy-for-dummies.

Rick Bosi
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Rick Bosi
2 years ago

Hang in there kid, we’re rooting for a speedy recovery!

Uncle Rick

Adrienne Floreen
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2 years ago

Kym Kemp, moderate your comments. Blaming the victim of a biological weapon attack for being hospitalized due to her weight or vaccination status is unreasonable and comments insulting this lady should be deleted by you. It’s your website and you’re responsible. If I was the unvaccinated person hospitalized and saw this in the comments, I’d sue you – make it go away, protect this lady who’s obviously possibly gonna die, putting herself out despite what criticism she may get (like I do), and a victim, not a criminal.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago

It’s a comment section.. I’d she you!!! Ok [edit]

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

You could try to sue, but you would not be successful. If you don’t like the comments, don’t read them.

Norman Spinran
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Norman Spinran
2 years ago

I repeatedly hear this meme about Covid being a weapon. To me, that makes no sense. Why create a weapon that can mutate and is totally beyond your control? Why create a biological weapon which can indiscriminately kill your own people, even your own leaders and their families? As best I can tell, biological weapons in the modern age, like anthrax, have a limited range within which they can act. And if it was intended as a weapon, why release it in your our country first? Why not release it in enemy territory, so as to give your own people time to prepare?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don’t see that.

Adrienne Floreen
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2 years ago
Reply to  Norman Spinran

Moderna funded the research to create the virus in the lab while simultaneously creating the vaccine and if you didn’t see the video of the Chinese state official speaking Chinese that I posted on YouTube almost a year ago where he said that no matter how many Chinese people died China had lost NOTHING as long as more Americans died China had won… No Covid being a weapon is not a meme, search Covid Military Games Wuhan 2019 and you will find that members of of over 10 countries militaries tied to warn their own governments and our own as did whistleblower members of China’s own government.

Norman Spinran
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Norman Spinran
2 years ago

I did search “Covid Military Games Wuhan 2019” and what I did find was that Covid-19 may have been circulating at those games. It’s a giant leap from that to say that Covid-19 is a bioweapon. I also couldn’t find anything about Moderna funding “the research to create the virus in the lab.” It’s not surprising that I wouldn’t find anything like that because it’s unknown whether the virus even was created in a lab.

And, if Covid-19 (specifically) was being studied in a Wuhan lab, that still doesn’t make it a bioweapon. The Chinese could have been studying it to learn how to prevent pandemics.

To me the simplest explanations here are the best: The virus arose naturally in animals and cross-infected humans, or the virus was being studied in the lab and accidentally got out.

If the Chinese were trying to cover up for their failures to contain the virus, then they might say that of course it hurts others more than us.

The Chinese government is loathsome, but not it’s stupid. To me, the idea that China would release an X-factor biological agent in their own country for the purpose of hurting the rest of the world more than China to me is laughable.

Finally, even it is a bioweapon from China, from a practical point of view, so what? The world knew about the virus at the end of December 2019. How we responded to the virus is 100% on us. Are you saying that the Chinese could predict that Trump would try to pretend that the virus wasn’t a major threat?

Public figures call for retaliation against China, but I have yet to hear specifically what they would propose. Should we bomb China and start a nuclear war? Blockade? Trade war? There would be immediate shortages and massive price increases in this country, while everyone’s IRAs and 401ks crash.

A.D
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A.
2 years ago

Hope she gets all she needs, and makes a full recovery.

Would like a follow up story to know she’s ok.

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Adrienne Floreen
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2 years ago

When I asked you to moderate the comments on your YouTube channel and remove hate speech against this COVID-19 victim you “moderated” away my own comments and left the hate speech towards her intact. SHAME ON YOU! Remove the hateful comments towards this victim, who allowed you to share her very personal message on your own YouTube channel and news website not knowing you were gonna throw her to the wolves, or else her message will be meaningless and not get the point across. Anyone can copy anything offa YouTube under the fair use act and post it with any context…. People who think she’s fat who don’t understand she’s as skinny as me and on steroids to treat COVID could ruin her life. Moderate not my comments defending her, but people’s comments made by people from here to China calling her fat! Call me fat on my YouTube channel, and leave this innocent woman alone!

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