29-Year-Old COVID Patient in St. Joe’s Pleads With Community to Get Vaccine
From adventure in Greece to hospital bed in Humboldt in just a few months–to the left:Shane Finch and Linda Urbina as they traveled through Greece. To the right, screenshot of Linda Urbina on her hospital bed Tuesday.
In June, 29-year-old Linda Urbina got engaged in Greece to her partner of five years, Shane Finch. Her life seemed perfect. But now she says she is struggling to breathe since she was taken to St. Joseph’s Hospital in Eureka from her Weott home in an ambulance this Tuesday.
“I didn’t believe COVID was like this,” she said between ragged gasps over the phone from her hospital room. “I thought it would last like three days. I’ve never had anything like this.”
Urbina, a mother of four, believes her whole family contracted the illness when her 7-year-old son brought it home from the school he attends in Scotia.
“On September 3, we got told my second grader had been exposed,” she told us. “We got tested. My 7-year-old was positive.” Soon the rest of the family caught COVID. “Everyone got it…My kids had fevers…Sick for a couple of days and then they were better. My fiancé got it for a day.”
She doesn’t know why COVID sent her to the hospital while almost everyone else in the family recovered in a short time. But, she says she was the one who was taking care of everyone else as they got sick. “I was in and out of those rooms,” she explained. “I was the one being a mother–that’s my responsibility,” she told us.
![Shane Finch and Linda Urbina as they traveled through Greece. [Photo used with permission]](https://kymkemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/196542986_10219504420416694_8215619159159501720_n.jpg)
Shane Finch and Linda Urbina as they traveled through Greece. [Photo used with permission]
But then in August, she lost her baby. “Three weeks before COVID got me, I had a miscarriage,” she told us. “I was so depressed. It hurt me so bad. Then on Sept 3, the virus hit my home.”
Perhaps the loss of her baby, perhaps the sadness, perhaps the repeated exposure to multiple ill family members, perhaps all of the above could have led her to have a worse reaction than others in her household. Urbina says she’s not sure of the cause.
She explained that her whole family had been in isolation in Weott since Labor Day weekend. When she got sick, she didn’t get better quickly like the rest of the family. “I couldn’t breathe,” she told us. “The chest pain…My fiancé had to call 911 on Tuesday. I was brought here in an ambulance. I was so, so low on oxygen.”
Now, she says, she’s fighting fever and fear in a hospital bed. “It is horrible to hear patients in pain,” she told us. “I have a hard time talking. I get very tired…”I’m the only person in their twenties in the hospital with COVID.”
Urbina praises the staff at St. Joseph’s Hospital. “The nurses have been amazing to me here,” she tells me. “I was doing fine and then today I started having more complications.”
Her voice grows faint and she hesitates between words as she speaks in an almost dreamy voice. “I went to Fortuna High–graduated 2009… I grew up in Scotia. I miss it…My parents have lived in Scotia for 33 years. My dad works at the Mill.” Then, she starts to ramble a little, “I just want to be underneath the redwood trees.”
She breathes harshly for a few beats then begins to cry, “My kids…I just want to go home to them. My parents…My mother is 58 years old taking care of three kids right now.” (The fourth child, Urbina’s stepdaughter, is still testing positive so she is with Urbina’s fiancé.)
She tells us that the reason she asked to talk to a reporter is because she wants to tell people to protect themselves. “I want people to get vaccinated,” she says. “I wouldn’t have ended up like this with the vaccine. I’m having a lot of heart problems. I’m dealing with blood clots.”
She tries to draw a deep breath. “Nobody believes this COVID,” she almost whispers. “Everyone is in denial. We were are all afraid of a vaccine.” She goes on to say, “But death is always behind us. We could cross the road and get hit by a damn car.”
Her voice steadies and she adds, “I just want people to get the vaccine. Its everyone’s choice, but I don’t wish this upon anybody…We think we are young and we are going to fight it through. You just don’t know though. You don’t know how it is going to affect your body.”
She has posted other videos of her experiences on her Facebook page. “I made them live and public I want people here in Humboldt to see what it is like to be in the hospital with COVID.”
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Thank you for speaking up! I hope you feel better! Sending love and healing your way, Urbina 💚
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If you want to stay healthy then you should have stayed out of the hospital! If you catch covid get some mucinex with expectorant to dry out the mucuss and phlem. Caught Covid in Jan 2020 and Aug 2021. Not vaccinated. Had no problem kicking its butt in 4 days! I took Mucinex and ate my vitamins and took Stamets 7 mushroom mycelium extract and also took wellness formula from health food store. I would absolutely refise to go to hospital unless I wanted to be put in a bed and intubated. Then its weeks of recovery as one week intubated without getting up or eating ( only eat through a feeding tube when intubated) will have you so weak and feeling down you will want to die! And now nurses and doctors are spending way less energy or time if they think your not vaxxed or anti vax….. go figure… the hospital is the place everyone is dying….
I know dozens of other people that got covid and didn’t even know they had it. Sounds like Linda was unhealthy. What’s her other health issues? What’s her vitamin D levels?
“ I know dozens of other people that got covid and didn’t even know they had it. “
So much for protecting the herd
No they’re the ones building herd immunity, just like Sweden.
You mean the country that didn’t lock down and ended up with the most covid infections and deaths in Northern Europe? That Sweden?
I’m not sure what you are counting as northern Europe but Sweden sits in about the mid levels of deaths from COVID in European countries. Lithoania and the UK are both higher for instance. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country/
Read my comment and the rest of the comments on your article and delete any comments blaming this woman for getting sick from a virus that shouldn’t exist. It’s not her “weight” or “vaccination status” that caused her to get sick, it’s a virus likely created in a lab funded by the USA and China. Stop blaming this woman, people, and Kym, stop allowing your comments section to be used to ream this innocent woman! Everybody leave this woman alone! She’s a victim, and trying to do the right thing – get offa her case, your comments aren’t just nasty, they’re abuse and even slander.
I allow comments like that about myself to stay on my YouTube channel. I have thick skin and have seen nasty like you couldn’t imagine. But if I promoted someone and everyone started making fun of her weight? I’d delete those comments and ban those people as soon as humanly possible. Or their race, religion, etc – there’s some lines you don’t cross, on your own site, and some things you don’t allow posted on your own site.
Sweden had a lower national mortality rate in 2020 than they did in 2010
Was that is from a statistic based on projections that did not include covid in 2020? https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/SWE/sweden/death-rate
No, it is from the Swedish national statistics website. It is based their official all cause mortality rates.
if delta didn’t get em’ the next one will.
There is nothing in this piece to indicate she was unhealthy. That is a blame the victim mentality. No one knows how their immune system will or will not respond to any illness. Bodybuilders have died of COVID. It is luck of the draw. The vaccine decreases your chance of being unlucky significantly.
Yes but those who are overweight are hit harder by COVID. Not being in your BMI means you’re not healthy & more susceptible to many preventable health issues. Simple truth that many Americans suffer from preventable health problems because of being over a healthy BMI. It’s science.
Was she overweight?
Well the photos certainly indicate that she is not at her correct weight. I’m sorry she is sick, that is terrible for sure , but she is overweight significantly in the photos. This is a major co-morbidity issue with the virus. So I think if you are elderly, immune compromised , have serious underlying Heath issues OR you are obese , it makes sense to get this vaccine.
She was stressed out and low. She had had a miscarriage recently. If you read the article
Bodybuilders are not generally the healthiest people. They are engaged in extreme behaviors that stress their body in pursuit of abnormal physical form. They generally have a shorter life expectancy than the population at large
Blaming someone is another way of a person feeling in control and safe. They are saying to themselves that it won’t happen to them because they are doing the right things. It’s true that if a person locks themselves away from everyone without fail, they won’t catch an infection. Very few are able to do that. This woman had children to see to. And did take care of them. Quit fishing around trying to make yourself feel by making others feel guilty.
Only she is responsible for being over her appropriate weight which is unhealthy and thereby increasing her risk . Guest is correct. Those of us who protect our health don’t need to blame others for not protecting theirs. But don’t make excuses and be all surprised when you wind up in the hospital. Only the patient made that happen you her own doing. Take responsibility for your choices in life.
As if there was any reality to the belief that being an “approriate” weight was any guarantee of safety. Of course more people are in ICUs who are overweight. Because more people in general are overweight. As for clear fatal comorbidities- being unvaccinated is the biggest.
Anti vaxxers have latched onto weight as their latest way of shifting blame from themselves to others. They announce that they don’t need vaccination because it’s the fault of the overweight that they get sick. Well duh! Being overweight taxes the body’s resources in any sickness but that is less a factor than age, race and other issues. There is one sure preventative- if people spreading the disease are prevented from infecting others, no one has to die.
I don’t think the covid virus gives a shyt about your/our weight
I keep hearing repeatedly on social media and the news, regarding Covid. “How old were they?” “How was their health before catching Covid.” “Were they overweight?” I wonder that too, but I still feel compassion and sadness regardless of their health status. I don’t think anyone deserves to become sick. When one becomes very very ill, and survives, sometimes their perspective and priorities change and they are just happy to be alive! Linda Urbina is brave to go public about her health. I am glad to see there are people who are compassionate towards her. She suffered a miscarriage and was probably very run down. She looks like a beautiful girl in her pictures. It’s hard to slim down when busy raising multiple children. I hope she pulls through and can get back to good health again. So very terrible to be that sick. 🕊️ He who is without sin cast the first stone🕊️
I doubt we all would look our best when fighting for our lives in the hospital.
Oh goodness of course! The point of folks mentioning those things is not to point at the individul who is an elder or obese etc. and shame them gosh no. The point is to give reprieve to those fighting for their basic right to medical freedom and freedom of belief, those who do not fit the description of those suffering who are being force fed the same narrative due to a very very small chance of having any issues. the vaccine also poses risks, Its a gamble either way but some have every right to take a chance and believe the risk of the vaccine is far greater (No long term studies or legal liability). And sure some are wrong, some are unlucky but again its a risk either way and everyone is different.
guest, I agree it is a risk either way and everyone is different, absolutely.
[edit] By the way, some people get cancer and don’t know for years. Does that mean cancers pretty chill, Dr. MacDonald?
Kym, I’m curious. Why was my comment stating what was recently in a police report regarding Cody Mark Macdonald edited but wild speculation and accusations about people, including deceased people is allowed? Seems a bit backwards to me and I just want to understand the rules/logic.
I can’t believe she survived St Joe’s, covid must be pretty weak , seen people die there with just a broken bone or a stepping on a rusty nail. What kind of care do you expect to get when you pay workers 1980 wages. Stay home , St Joe’s isn’t the answer, steroid inhalers work good and oxygen but the hospital goodbye adios. Does having a miscarriage and dealing with the loss of an unborn child take a toll on the body?
Consumed by conspiracy theories claiming that doctors are preventing unvaccinated patients from receiving miracle cures or are even killing them on purpose, some people in anti-vaccine and pro-ivermectin Facebook groups are telling those with Covid-19 to stay away from hospitals and instead try increasingly dangerous at-home treatments, according to posts seen by NBC News over the past few weeks. http://www.nbcnews 9/24/21
Did I say doctors are intentionally killing people? Did I say use ivermectin? You assume alot e fox, it’s not a wise trait.
MRSA in hospitals, sports, crowded places like the border are all overlooked and CAN present similar symptoms. Just curious where those figures have been hiding.
MRSA usually does NOT present with similar symptoms to Covid. It most commonly presents with skin infection. Also, anyone who presents with a fever will likely have a PCR test, so the two conditions are easily differentiated.
My information came from the Mayo Clinic website.
Good question.
It’s hilarious how people dismiss their risk or that anyone who suffers intensely or dies from covid was “unhealthy.” OUR WHOLE COUNTRY IS UNHEALTHY, PRE COVID!! And vitamin D levels??? Our whole entire COUNTY of Humboldt is consistently vitamin D deficient! Some 27% of American adults who aren’t elderly have a pre existing condition! 61-133 MILLION in total are estimated to have them. And that isn’t even factoring in those who can’t afford to see the doctor or just decide they don’t want see the doctor at all. So again, BEFORE you’re so securely confident in your delusional ability to predict the future, and that in turn has caused you to also developed a false sense of security that “I’ll be fine” maybe, just MAYBE take a second to think about somebody else. Yeah, I know it’s hard to move from your own priorities and self absorbed existence, but even if YOU do end up fine, it’s extremely likely you’re gonna pass it to someone you claim to “love” who isn’t gonna be so lucky. How, after so long of covid this shit goes over people’s heads, I don’t know!!! It’s either above your level of comprehension or you’re selfish AF. Either way, don’t be confused it’s people like YOU that are making this worse and drag out for EVERYBODY.
You are misunderstanding the cause to not vaccinate and being quite rude to this person who is making logical points. Many people do not trust the numbers are an accurate reflection of what is happening. Many people are suspect that those who are vaccinated are more at risk of death and complications and are the reason it’s spreading more rapidly and are causing new variants. People who are vaccinated are getting COVID spreading it and dying from it. Also People who are partially vaccinated are counted as not vaccinated and I see them at risk the most and this points to the numbers not being accurate.
As a woman specifically I don’t trust the vaccine bc there were never any tests on women’s reproductive health because women and minorities do not matter much to our healthcare system- it wasn’t important they said. Finally this month they began the first study on this because the vaccine IS causing harm to the reproductive health of women. “It’s not important” to study this before they dose everyone? Yikes.
Please have compassion for everyone’s various life experiences that bring them to their own conclusions about their own health. I am a care worker for the elderly and have a young child and I get told daily I hate the elderly and children and want to kill them and I’m frankly sick of it. Please stop with the ignorance and hate.
Ps my son got COVID from someone who was just vaccinated and I was exposed but didn’t get it bc I am not vaccinated and healthy. There are many reasons to be suspect.
So you should avoid known medical prevention measures but you have no problem with the significant risk of being harmed (or killed) by Covid? Exactly how much proof do you and your kind need? Perhaps if you never left your house and isolated permanently you would not need to worry about contracting any illness, getting in a car/train/plane accident, being hit by a bus and so on. But you still might get cancer or have your house burn down. Even if you are healthy.
Not everyone uses western medicine or views their health in that way. It’s like forcing religion on others. I go to my garden for good health not to injections.
I am “Avoiding a known medical prevention” that hasn’t been studied long term or on women adequately yet, from a system that has been around for ~200 years yes. I’m using known all natural prevention methods which have been used for thousands of years. Feels like you all want to burn us at the stake again.
“My kind?” The segregation is so extreme! How do you justify such hate? Isn’t that raising flags for you? The more conversations I have with vaccinated folks the more I wonder if anger is a side effect. I’m genuinely concerned.
Just because I live an all natural lifestyle does not mean I have not been isolating and wearing masks and it doesn’t mean I don’t think the vaccine is appropriate for some. it’s just not the choice I made bc I have low risk of side effects and do not trust western medicine bc of my own experiences with it. I used to have the right to have my own beliefs based on my own experiences. We need to stop generalizing though, it’s super dangerous.
I think you are more likely to die of cancer or your house burning down, and therefore you shouldn’t inject yourself with harmful materials just because the man said so…
Guest,
I am sorry to see you misunderstand something very important. People who are vaccinated can catch COVID and can then spread COVID. However, they catch COVID at about 1/3 the rate (that is the most conservative number I can find—some numbers show as high as 11 to one) as the unvaccinated. And they recover sooner and spread the disease for a shorter period of time. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/can-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people-spread-covid19-the-same/65-63870429-2e11-44bd-aa57-9ea8a23cb205
In addition, in my personal observation, it seems that many of those that choose to be vaccinated are more likely to follow other guidelines such as masking, social distancing, quarantining, etc than many of those that don’t choose vaccination. I caution this is not a scientific study but just a general observation.
In any case, even if just the first two points are correct–vaxxed catch COVID less often and spread it for shorter periods of time—then the unvaccinated are more likely to be spreading COVID than those who are not vaccinated.
As to partially vaccinated people making up a large portion of those who are seriously ill, the numbers in studies I’ve looked at don’t bear that out. “During May 1–July 25, 2021, among 43,127 SARS-CoV-2 infections in residents of Los Angeles County, California, 10,895 (25.3%) were in fully vaccinated persons, 1,431 (3.3%) were in partially vaccinated persons, and 30,801 (71.4%) were in unvaccinated persons.” Partially vaccinated people make up very few of those counted. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e5.htm
If you were for instance to take those partially vaccinated cases in LA County during the height of the Delta Variant out break and add them to the breakthrough cases in the vaccinated, you would have less than 29% even getting infected with COVID compared to 71% not vaccinated. And then that doesn’t even count that “hospitalization rates among unvaccinated persons…29.2 times…those in fully vaccinated persons.”
Families in consultation with a doctor do need to make the best choices for their situations…BUT the overwhelming number of studies posted by a wide variety of scientists studying this show that vaccination helps keep hospital beds available so people who have things like cancer and heart disease that don’t have vaccines available can get the treatment they need.
Thank you for the data kym! I didn’t mean to imply the spread was more or anything just that there was still spread from vaccinated folks. I really don’t trust the number gathers honestly and I don’t think they are looking at everything. It’s really strange to me that a vaccine wouldnt prevent all spread and deaths. That seems to make it pointless to me. I know it’s not the case for all but I was exposed and was fine. Feels safer for me to not get vaccinated v risk death from a vaccine.
Did you catch this? Women’s health was an afterthought as usual….
“ Our goal is to provide menstruating people with information, mainly as to what to expect, because I think that was the biggest issue: Nobody expected it to affect the menstrual system, because the information wasn’t being collected in the early vaccine studies,” said Bianchi …The coronavirus vaccine trials did not specifically ask participants whether they saw adverse side effects in their menstrual cycles or volumes – an omission that Bianchi attributes to the fact that “the (FDA) emergency use authorization was really focused on critical safety issues” and “changes to your menstrual cycle is really not a life and death issue,” she said.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/women-said-the-covid-vaccine-affected-their-periods-now-more-than-1-6-million-will-go-into-researching-it/%3famp=1
Guest, I wear a seatbelt because it ups the odds that I will survive a crash but I know it doesn’t guarantee I will come out unscathed.
If you look at the odds, the worst case chance of death is if every report in VAERS is due to the vaccine–less than 14,000 from December to around mid August (Please note that no one in science believes that the VAERS reports are all from the vaccine–they are just reports). And the 10,000 dead from COVID in June, and the 8000 in July and the 25000 in August (note…I’m not including any deaths from prior to June just to weigh things heavily in the favor of those anti the COVID vaccine.)are the only deaths from COVID (please note that there is evidence of larger number of deaths from COVID. So that is 14,000 to 43,000…Roughly three to one. Even if I stretch these numbers to the farthest directions possible, the odds are still way better for a healthy outcome if you get the vaccine than if you don’t.
Now maybe you have some reason that your doctor thinks your family shouldn’t get the vaccine, then of course you should listen to them. But, in a normal situation,…for the sake of yourself and your family, your odds are better if you get the vaccine than if you don’t. AND society at large, whose hospital beds will be freed up, who won’t lose productive members to death or depression at the loss of those who died will be vastly better off the more people who help protect themselves by taking the vaccine.
Gain For Fauci Research….
Kym, no one being honest believes they vaers captures all adverse events, not even close.
A study at Massachusetts General hospital in the spring found that the incidence of a well known, acute, and fairly immediate adverse vaccine reaction (anaphylaxis) is underreported by between 25 and 100+ times.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777417
2.47/10,000 doses instead of 0.11/10,000.
Just another piece of evidence that indicates that vaers represents a massive underreporting of adverse events. So far zero scientific studies have been presented to indicate the opposite view is sensible. If the undercounting of this acute and well known adverse event is this severe, what does it look like for an unexpected adverse event?
” FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.” https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
Yep its required, and all available scientific study on the topic indicates that its still not being done.
Lots of people, including yourself, have pushed this narrative that vaers data is over reporting adverse events. But all of the studies anyone has shared (including the one in my study that showed anaphylaxis being underreported by at least 22x) indicate that the data is a massive under report.
Maybe you’ve seen other data?
“Federal, State, and Local officials require that no citizen cultivate, process, distribute, or use matijuana.”
Ah, I guess all this talk about weed is a bunch of misinformation.
Thanks Guest.
Thanks That Guy in Arcata. The vaxx court has paid out billions of dollars to those with vaccines injuries.
It’s called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compensation_Program
It’s literally called the “Vaccine Injury Program.”
And it’s notoriously stingy, hard to maneuver, expensive for anyone claiming injury, and demoralizing to families who are dealing with impacted small children.
Exactly, That Guy in Arcata.
If someone has a serious anaphylaxis enough to get treated at a medical facility from vaccine, it is unlikely to missed and not reported. However being itchy or getting hives might be missed. Since virtually all such reaction occur within 20 minutes of vaccination, anyone having as much of a reaction as anti vaxxers imply would be noticed at mass vaccination clinic. There would be ambulances running to hospitals from the clinics. And there are not.
Did you read the study that I linked? It was in that study that they found the 20-100+ times underreporting of anaphylaxis in the vaers data.
Why are the vaccine advocates so opposed to accepting the entirety of the data? Even if the risks of injury from. The mrna vaccines are 100x greater than the official story reasonable people could still conclude that it was worth the risk for them personally.
When you deny the data available that doesn’t fit your preconceived picture of things all you do is inhibit your ability to make the best choices for yourself. If we are seeking the truth we don’t need to ignore any of the data available. People need to relearn how to decouple their identity from their conclusions about complex topics, it doesn’t facilitate rational decision making
IRS requires folks to declare all income, even if it is received as cash in a paper bag along a dusty gravel road. Sometimes folks simply ignore “requirements”.
I’m sure reporting isn’t perfect. BUT unlike not reporting cash, the advantage to a doctor for not reporting a death after a vaccine is not immediately apparent (she says dryly…)
No one is accusing drs of intentionally not reporting anything. The problems identified in the Harvard pilgrim health study were primarily around lack of awareness from physicians, a clunky reporting infrastructure making reporting time consuming for already very busy people, and a failure of health systems and health care education building systems that fit reporting into regular physician work flow.
No one believes VAERS captures all vaccine adverse reactions. However this analysis also came to the conclusion that “The incidence rate of confirmed anaphylaxis in this study is larger than that reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention based on passive spontaneous reporting methods (0.025-0.11 per 10 000 vaccinations). However, the overall risk of anaphylaxis to an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine remains extremely low and largely comparable to other common health care exposures.”
One reason for this was that it was a survey of medical care workers who were able to identify specific symptoms of anaphylaxis such as itching or hives that maybe non health care workers would not recognize or worry about and report it because they worked in a medical care facility with a specific place to do it. No one died and only one had enough of a reaction to be hospitalized. Certainly nothing like the vast hidden range of deaths or injuries that anti vaxxers imply from the insistence that VAERS is “unreliable.” It is unlikely that deaths or injuries escape VAERS reporting at the rate that itching or hives might.
The rate of itching and hives underreporting is even higher than the rate of anaphylaxis. And yes, this analysis does not “prove” that the vaccines are too dangerous to take. It simply provides evidence that the risks may be greater than we are led to.believe and that some people may have reason to choose not to accept these injections at this time.
You are choosing to assume that the underreporting of this particular side effect is an outlier based on your own emotional bias, not on sound evidence. This same bias among medical professionals, that vaccination is inherently safe, likely leads to a lot of the underreporting that happens
I really appreciate the information Kym and certainly the sentiment, I know you care 🙂 I get the risks to all right now, really I understand covid is serious, even if I feel the vaccine is more of a risk for us personally.
But really you think its safer for us to get the vaccine still given our circumstances? I just overcame covid exposure without being vaccinated and my son had virtually no symptoms (runny nose) and was also fine. He was exposed to a vaccinated person too which I think is where he got covid. Im still in my fertile years of life and the effects to the reproductive system are uncertain in addition to the long term effects to all. It seems super risky to me because I know a lot about the history of these companies who produce the vaccine too.
Ive got to be honest I read quite a bit on the issue but I dont believe anything 100% on this matter on either side (beyond firsthand experiences of trusted friends- which are concerning amongst the vaccinated folks mainly) because there’s just so much money and manipulation on the line. BUT I did read somewhere that I have 27 times better immunity if I overcame covid naturally vs. getting the vaccine. Did you read otherwise?
All doctors peddle vaccines these days or they get their license taken away essentially, in forced vaccination states like CA. I have friends with vaccine damaged children who cant even get a medical exemption so their child can go to school right now. So many children lost access to school in 2020 when that law changed in CA essentially forcing vaccines on all children.
btw, I just saw something from the Hill about the miscounting as “unvaccinated” folks who were recently vaccinated, Im looking for it still.
guest, according to everything I’ve read, the most effective course is natural immunity plus the vaccine but, of course then, you have to risk the severe side effects of COVID. According to the CDC, “Evidence is emerging that people get better protection by being fully vaccinated compared with having had COVID-19. One study showed that unvaccinated people who already had COVID-19 are more than 2 times as likely than fully vaccinated people to get COVID-19 again.” https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
“For those who have put off getting vaccinated because they’ve already been infected with the coronavirus, a growing body of evidence suggests vaccination plus natural immunity leads to particularly robust protection, including against variants of the virus…So-called hybrid immunity — that is, natural immunity from an infection combined with the immunity provided by the vaccine — appears to result in stronger protection than just infection or vaccination alone.https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/hybrid-immunity-people-covid-still-get-vaccinated-rcna1974
Want to make sure you see this from the hill- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyYQrw6ra0
Woah kym this is a must see news clip (from my favorite non corporate funded news program). dr fauchi just said natural immunity is possibly 2xs better than the vaccine and now they are banning the discussion around natural immunity on social media. That raises serious flags. Why would a conversation about something natural be banned, especially when there are so many unknowns? For me, These patterns indicate the intentions of those giving the data to us, the doctors, the cdc and fda are not sincere. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8i9FBzJFvOM
Just pick a number and stick it next to guest, it would be helpful… ;>
I’m not much for video and youtube. I don’t learn easily that way. But the Washington Post recently had an opinion piece about natural immunity by Marty Makary, a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, and editor-in-chief of Medpage Today.
I just read it today when I was doing research about your question. He also asserts that natural immunity is very powerful. Maybe more powerful than the vaccine.
“One reason public health officials may be afraid to acknowledge the effectiveness of natural immunity is that they fear it will lead some to choose getting the infection over vaccination. That’s a legitimate concern. But we can encourage all Americans to get vaccinated while still being honest about the data. In my clinical experience, I have found patients to be extremely forgiving with evolving data if you are honest and transparent with them. Yet, when asked the common question, “I’ve recovered from covid, is it absolutely essential that I get vaccinated?” many public health officials have put aside the data and responded with a synchronized “yes,” even as studies have shown that reinfections are rare and often asymptomatic or mild when they do occur.”
It’s behind a paywall so I “gifted” you access to it via email. But here’s the link for any other commenter who can check it out. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/natural-immunity-vaccine-mandate/
Does a 29 year old have a higher chance of dying WITH ( got to stick to the wording) covid or winning the lotto? Asking for a few million youngsters. And if your vaccinated why would you care if they aren’t?
Is the 29-year-old healthy, thin, vaccinated, good about social distancing and wearing a mask and has good hygiene? Or is the 29-year-old unvaccinated, hangs out in mosh pits with strangers who are also unvaccinated, obese, sleep-deprived, and never wears a mask?
Found it. It seems to still be a debate on whether vaccines are effective and that’s according to the mainstream media too. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyYQrw6ra0
Did you see what happened at duke university with the outbreak among the vaccinated mainly?
“ In the first week of classes, 304 undergraduates, 45 graduate students and 15 employees tested positive for COVID-19. All but eight of these individuals were vaccinated, and the vast majority of them are asymptomatic. A small number have minor, cold- and flu-like symptoms, and none have been hospitalized, according to the university.”
Yes, That’s to be expected as the vaccine provides protection but not absolute immunity and college kids are some of the least likely to follow rules about social distancing and masking. (I’ve got two of my own at college so we looked into what to expect). The worry of course is that the students themselves will have very little issues (great!) as they are vaccinated and in the prime of their life healthwise BUT of course they interact with a number of people (grocery clerks, bartenders, staff, etc who are not in the prime of their life and at the peak of their health) –we worry about our boys bringing COVID back to their grandparents for instance.
Doesn’t even cause a pause that most of what you say is unreal? That in oder to believe as you do, you must assume almost everyone is lying but then get upset if anyone doubts your word?
Our goal is to provide menstruating people with information, mainly as to what to expect, because I think that was the biggest issue: Nobody expected it to affect the menstrual system, because the information wasn’t being collected in the early vaccine studies,” said Bianchi
Oops there you go…
https://kymkemp.com/2021/09/24/29-year-old-covid-patient-in-st-joes-pleads-with-community-to-get-vaccine/#comment-1428541
Just click the link above and read the article. It’s not a conspiracy theory, women’s health was not specifically considered
“We hope that all reproductive-aged women will be more confident getting the COVID-19 vaccine, given Dr. Morris’s findings that the vaccine does not cause female sterility,” said Hugh Taylor, M.D., president of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine (ASRM). “This, and other studies of this nature, further reinforce the ASRM COVID Task Force guidance that, no matter where you are in the family-building process, the COVID-19 vaccine is safe and saves lives.” https://www.asrm.org/news-and-publications/news-and-research/press-releases-and-bulletins/new-study-reveals-covid-vaccine-does-not-cause-female-sterility/
I never said it caused infertility. It impacts our cycles certainly though, that’s a huge deal. Even with not being vaccinated I was impacted by vaccinated women’s cycle changes. Not because of some strange conspiracy theory but simply bc women’s cycles link up.
Also, Guest 1 and 2 (as well as all the other guests) if someone is already using Guest in a thread, make up another name. Following the conversation is brutal
Well said Guest.
Good point about the partially vaxxed. They need to include the the partially vaxxed as part of the data.
There’s no reason why they couldn’t include whether or not the infected, hospitalized, etc. are partially vaxxed.
Exactly, Jessica 👍
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Good point about the vitamin D levels.
Oh, And what are her chances of surviving. They were infected by unvaccinated Trilobites.
So I’m am a good friend of Linda and know the family really well. She hasn’t had any other health problems. The virus just hits people differently. On September 3 my daughter spent the night at her house and was home on the4th. Linda told me one of the kids were exposed and just tested positive on that Monday. Tuesday my daughter tested negative and Thursday negative. We never got it. Then she got it and it got her bad as you can see. The rest of her family had mild symptoms. So please don’t assume things like underlying health problems. What she is dealing with is from the virus. She chooses to tell her story because no one else is brave enough to. She is scared and wants to be well. She is wanting the shot because of how this has effected her. It effects everyone different as we can all tell. Vaccinated or not people are dying or getting really sick or not it just attacks people how it wants to. I am scared for Linda and if I were her I wouldn’t know what to do. There are so many differences with this virus. I can say though what she is going through is cause by the virus.
This lady has a good friend in you. And it took courage for her to tell her story. I hope you remain safe and she recovers soon.
She should ask about the booster shot. Hopefully. her doctor can give her information. And she should ask about the variant virus that infected her. As you know there are at least two serious variants. A couple of others I have read are people’s current protection from the existing vaccines.
Thanks for your post.
Victim blaming is a sport for really creepy & mean people.
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The vit D thing turned out to be a nothing burger. Most people are low on vit D. SO when it was found that most people in the ICU with covid were low on vit D that was to be expected. There was no difference in the rate of vit D deficiency in the general public and those with sever covid 19.
Most people should take vit D, but in no way is it a viable alternative or equal defense to vacination.
I agree about vitamin D. I take it as a supplement because the sun and I don’t get along (I don’t tan I burst into flames) and for my bone health.
Low Vitamin D Levels means lower Calcium levels and a more acidic rather than alkaline system which means you are way more likely to get sick with an acidic body PH. Simple health fact….
Calcium with Vitamin d increases your immunity from most diseases including Covid.
No wonder many in ER for Covid had low Vit D and hence low calcium levels which means they were acidic when they caught the covid. If you eat lots of junk food and processed foods chances are your body if acidic. Simple logic
I do also take calcium. Thanks.
Do you know that the patients had low calcium levels and were therefore “acidic”? Just wondering where this info is coming from.
I have no idea. I was just supporting taking Vitamin D (and calcium) as a general rule, especially in regions without a lot of sunlight.
Ignorant comment.
More Crap spewed by the Aluminum Hattie Lobby!!!
troll. don’t be a disingenuous dick. I have had covid myself. I’m very, very healthy, vaccinated, under 40, have 0 comorbidities, and got laid up for almost 2 weeks. 6 weeks later, I’m still feeling pretty rough. chest xrays showed lung damage on both my wife and I (who have never been smokers). we are using inhalers prescribed to folks with COPD. I also work in community/social services in the region, interacting with many individuals and families, and don’t even know dozens of people who have gotten covid and been perfectly fine. I know a few, but I know more who got pretty sick, definitely not dozens. I’m friends with people in various regions of the US and across the world and still can’t say I know dozens of people who have gotten covid, let alone gotten it not known they’ve had it
Obviously your experiences are real and valid but no one else’s are.
I am so sorry that happened to you guys!! Thank you for sharing your story, it’s all I can trust these days. Did you get the vaccine and then get covid or was it the other way around?
Sending tons of blessings for a quick recovery!!
It is both impolite and against Kym’s rules to call someone else an idiot.
It is also accurate at times.
Obviously unhealthy or over weight… Lets not forget that the media has many terrified of the virus, so when they catch it the physiological reaction is 10 times worse! If you believe it will kill you then it likely will kill you… if you believe it is relatively minor like a cold.. then chances are you will quickly get over the virus. Much of our healing and health is physiological. Just like taking a placebo pill your mindset of confidence or fear plays a huge role in your bodies ability to fight this illness. Stay healthy, exercise , eat leafy greens and veggies chicken and fish.. stay away from pork and red meat. Take your vitamins and immuno boosters like Stamets 7 Mushroom Mycelium and keep positive and stay our of the fear campaign by turning off your TV sets… reduce stress by taking walks and spending time in healthy ecosystems of nature. Take loving care of one another. Your health and your choosing to get vaccinated or not is solely up to you. Its your choice!
“If you believe it will kill you then will it likely kill you.” Wow. That makes things so much simpler. I guess we don’t need doctors any more.
Oh sweetheart, I love you so much. Can’t wait till you are back home and I can give you a huge hug. Stay strong hon. We all love you so much!
Please wier your mask, if you are crazy enough to hug anyone, never mind a former covid victim. Remember 6 feet means 6 feet , mask even when vaxxed, stay healthy or get healthy, excessive weight is often a death sentence along with covid, and isolate if you allow anyone in your space, regardless if you are vaxxed or not after going into stores with regurgitated air. It’s never going away. It’s the new norm, gets used to the isolation and use it to become self aware, learn new hobbies, and learn to love yourself, so you can actually enjoy being alive.
Obviously, the hug comes after recovery, and I’m sure this person is capable of loving themselves and not needing all of your condescending advice.
How have you lived your entire life being so scared? Honestly, how do you live day by day with so much fear flowing through your blood?
You project your toughness like a frightened poodle.
Dude maybe the vaccine is for you. If this stuff gets you all freaked out, the vaccine will at least keep you out of the hospital.
There’s a HUGE ASS difference between recognizing a legit and present danger and behaving accordingly and “living your life in fear.” That’s called intelligence. If you’re afraid, that’s on you, and there’s therapy for that.
Is it scared or choosing to be AWARE?
It’s amazing 50-100 thousand people can fill football stadiums all over the country and the world hasn’t ended. Can’t even remember the last time I heard “super spreader” lol. I suggest you travel, get out of humboldt and you will realize the rest of the country is moving on.
Head on down to Florida. No super spreaders going on there, right Nick?
It’s all just a big fat LOL.
For some of them, it surely has ended. A story about blame games among politicians-
“Today in my state, Washington citizens in many cases cannot get heart surgery, cannot get cancer surgery that they need, because we are having to take too many people of unvaccinated nature and unmasked, many of whom come from Idaho, and that’s just maddening frankly,” Inslee told MSNBC last week, according to The Hill.”
https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/9/24/22689535/washington-idaho-covid-19-patients-hospitals
Welcome to the new normal.
Spend your life and time like there will be no safety net.
No guarantees.
A third of the population of Europe died from Bubonic Plague and the world didn’t end. That doesn’t mean you would want to catch bubonic plague.
You seem like a wonderful person.
Pleading for a better level of health education and awareness. I haven’t been to Greece in 25 years, but my friend died of a heart attack while riding his mountain in Spain. After taking a vaccine to travel unrestricted. He’s dead after Vax, So are many people die every day, we are all different inside and out, do your research and keep on living til you can’t.
Ok logic fault detected. You offer correlation without causation. Most of us reading this would get a heart attack riding a “mountain” in Spain. For Christ’s sake, they have hams hanging in the Barcelona airport! If I died in a plane wreck on my way to Spain after getting vaccinated, what would be the cause? Did the vaccine, somehow entice him to travel? Or did he want to travel, thus requiring the vaccine?
“Most of us reading this would get a heart attack riding a “mountain” in Spain”
Thats all I needed to hear to prove how bad of shape most people are in.
Mt friend was active and took one for the team.
https://www.facebook.com/wxyzdetroit/posts/after-the-vaccines-were-available-to-everyone-did-you-lose-an-unvaccinated-loved/10158207967261135/
What if you died in a plane crash on the way to Spain and tested positive for the cov
Riding mountains can be pretty, pretty dangerous.
They usually buck me off within 8 seconds.
To be fair, maybe he was snowboarding in the Pyranees.
Stop it you two. You are having way to much fun with this.
You don’t know fear or depression until you face losing someone you love.
We sincerely hope Ms Urbina recovers and the rest of her people stay well…
Taking the vaccine does not guarantee a COVID-Free life, but it gives you a jump on fighting off the infection.
COVID Vaccination is your best tool, it’s our most evolved answer, and we know that the vaccine is saving lives.
Get vaccinated now.
Weren’t you and others wishing death on the unvaxxed??
Get vaccinated, people are dying because the hospitals are full.
Stupid is as stupid does. How many of these videos must we watch?
Kim you should be ashamed of yourself for publishing such trash. Next time you need to beg for money just do everyone a favor a quit. The community would be better without you
Is it trash because you believe it isn’t true–that Linda isn’t a real person in the hospital? Or is it trash because it makes you feel uncomfortable about your choice to not vaccinate.
Calm, cool, collected reply. Whats your secret? I would be tempted to go nuclear on such a rude, misinformed comment.
You go nuclear when you see people spraying water at airplanes ….
And yes wasting water sets me off. That picture was taken in Las Vegas, which is in the middle of a fucking desert. 70% of Nevada’s water comes from Colorado River diversion. How can you justify spraying water over an airplane in an ad acceptable?. In the future wars won’t be fought over oil, they will be fought over water.
Also us redheads are known for going nuclear at times. For me personally it can come on in an instant and then disappear just as quickly. Like a lightning strike. But don’t worry, my therapist says I am much better now.
Air travel in general comes with a huge environmental impact, even without wasting water. Air travel is for folks who don’t care about their carbon footprint.
so there have been no technological advancements in the air travel industry in the past fifty years ?
You complaining she doesn’t censor the comments, right?
Truth, you speak trash, and have a nerve treating Kim in that fashion. The fact is our community would be better off if people like you moved to Kabul and joined the Taliban. Try using freedom of speech in a positive way please!
Way to be a total jerk, how about instead of a rude comment like that you don’t read these articles or comments and keep your BS to yourself. Sounds like the community would be better without you
It changed the spelling from kym to kim… not me
You don’t need to watch.
James, no one made you watch!
It’s not just about you. You have been vaccinated all your life. Probably wouldn’t be here now but for all the vaccinations you have received over your life. Not getting vaccinated is childish and selfish. It’s not about you. It’s about everyone else. Hypocrisy is rampant. Self centered people who only care about themselves are the ones not vaccinated.
Right now, being in the hospital struggling to breathe does pretty make give this all about her. Leave the nagging off for the moment- she’s taking the effort to make it more about others.
Its about everyone else? False vaccine only protects you it doesn’t stop spread. Wow you have short memories.
Protecting me means I am less likely to take up space in a hospital. Good enough.
Is it “false” or does it “only protect you”? I got vaccinated so that I don’t die. I could be covid positive, and asymptomatic, with or without the vaccine. If you want to stand close while I yell drunken stories at you, i could pass it on. So yeah the vax protects me, but also my ability to help provide for my family a little bit longer. The vaccine is free and safe, by the numbers. Covid is expensive and dangerous, by the numbers. Your choice.
So did you not receive a polio, measles, rubella, etc vaccine? It’s called science and our world progresses with it. Lots of anti vax people wishing they had done different when they are on their death bed. When our hospitals are too full of unvaccinated covid patients and people who come to get treatment such as heart attack, cancer treatment or simple procedures if left unchecked can lead to sepsis are being directly affected by your “choice” and freedom. It’s pure selfishness
This was tough to watch. I hope you feel better soon. For those watching and are non-vaccinated…go out and get the vaccine. It works and saves lives and suffering not only for you but those who love you
Sorry this woman is struggling, some early treatment (IVM) would probably have been wise.
wow
No, that’s terrible advice. Stay away from IVM, and anyone who thinks it’s a good idea. You have a respiratory virus, not worms. It’s the same train of thought as those who hoarded toilet paper at the beginning.
The madness continues. Costco said it will limit consumers’ purchase of items including toilet paper, paper towels, and bottled water due to supply chain issues and demand generated by the rise of the Delta variant. http://www.usatoday.com 9/24/21
Joe Rogan didn’t go to the hospital. I like those apples.
Hahaha.. those same people are the first ones who got vaxxed
Vaccinated people still get Covid.
Some do. Just fewer of them end up in the hospital.
AND fewer vaccinated die!!
High drama; ragged gasps! This should drive some clicks. Still waiting on the interviews with unvaxxed at peace with their decision.
It purely speculation to claim “I wouldn’t have ended up like this with the vaccine.”
And, if we use the same “logic” that complacent physicians or members of the community use when analyzing adverse reactions to the injections; oh your suffering heart problems? They were probably an underlying problem before you got sick. See how that works?
Considering the lifestyle driven stats that are PREEXISTING in our country, and are behind the majority of serious cases and hospitalizations that are driving this pandemic, that speculation would actually be accurate.
I’m off to count future Covid-victim sob stories at KFC, or in the never ending line-of-death at the IN and OUT.
For reference-
Foods That Are Bad for Your Heart:
Sugar, Salt, Fat.
Over time, high amounts of salt, sugar, saturated fat, and refined carbs raise your risk for a heart attack or stroke. …
Bacon. …
Red Meat. …
Soda. …
Baked Goods. …
Processed Meats. …
White Rice, Bread, and Pasta. …
Pizza.
Pick me up some Taco Bell while you’re out?
I will fight for my right to eat donuts! Mmmmm donuts
Look in the mirror again. It’s speculation that your orthorexia is showing.
Hi auntie. The doctor that coined that MEANINGLESS non-diagnosis is a quack!!
When one symptom of orthoexia is that “food regarded primarily as source of health rather than pleasure, ” you know that guy, and anybody that subscribes to his theory, is mental.
Regarding food primarily as a source of pleasure rather than health is what got our nation into the mess we are in!
He sounds like a doctor that prefers his clients to remain sickly, fat, and needing to be propped up with prescription medicines and invasive procedures. Fuk that. 💊 💉
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Look in the mirror? A moon face 🌚 staring back, tells us it’s time to skip some meals, and move the body.
Wow you know so much more than the most people. Please tell us more. I am tingling with anticipation.
Attacking commentors with snarky insults, instead of discussing ideas is allowed for you. The deck is stacked that way.
Your post was full of snark yet there it is. Like most other things, seeing the mote in another’s eye while missing the beam their own. My idea is that you are determined to blame 75% of the population for their illness without any recognition of the part that anti vaxxer misinformation plays in refusing vaccination. Whether these people are obese or not, promulgating ideas like DNA manipulation, anti government conspiracy theories, etc are wrong. In fact for fat people getting vaccination is more important . Not exposing them to illness is more important. And there is almost zero reason to fear vaccination. Yet you prefer to exaggerate the burden they create in order to vent your resentment.
Don’t forget alcohol and smoking. The two biggies. It cannot be said often enough.
Alcohol especially. But the alcohol or smoking status of the main characters in these one sided diatribes is never mentioned. Booze is a central fixture in our culture and it comes at a huge cost. But hey, the “shots” fix everything!
https://gizmodo.com/study-alcohol-linked-to-more-than-700-000-cancer-cases-1847298843/amp
A spelling tutorial?
(Nice work on slipping in a personal dig, not discussing ideas and still dodging moderation / editing hammer!)
I hope she recovers fully.
That’s a tough deck of cards she went through.
I really appreciate her sharing her story, and thank you too Kym.
All you guys were wishing death on unvaxxed people now you care? Gimme a break
No. Some people might think that it would be just if anti vaxxers suffered the results of their wildly misinformed beliefs but that is not the same as “wishing death” on them. It is exactly the same concept that anti vaxxers lay on everyone when they say vaccines will cause death in a year. Or that vaccinated people are causing the spread of more virulent variations. Or that fat people are the ones dying from covid. Or any other the other things they blame.
A big difference of course is that millions have been vaccinated without these dire prognostications coming true while anti vaxxers take it as a personal insult when anyone points out the it’s the unvaccinating filling the hospitals. In order to continue to believe their own nonsense, anti vaxxers are then forced to call people who believe in vaccinate liars.
There were plenty of comments on these boards saying that the unvaccinated (like this woman) should not be permitted medical treatment. Including from brian.
Also, you say that “anti-vaxxers” (is that you auntie?) Claim people will die from the vaccine in a year but that “these dire prognostications” haven’t come true. But it hasn’t been a year since almost anyone received the vaccine.
I personally don’t think that everyone will die in a year from the vaccine. I think there’s a lot of poorly informed fear mongering from both sides of this whole argument. My money is on the vast majority of the currently living population still being here in 5 years, regardless of their vaccination status
Sooner or later, any ideology that keeps moving the timeframe for their dire prophecies to another future date is going to lose credibility. And when you sit in their boat, rowing for their agenda full tilt, you do too.
Again, the claims I have seen that are most dire are predicting some terrible outcome in 2-5 years from the vaccines. I don’t happen to agree with those predictions but I’m also not silly enough to say they haven’t come true since that time frame hasn’t passed yet.
If, in 2-5 years, these dire predictions haven’t come true and these same people have moved to saying they will come true further down the line, then your accusations will carry some weight. Right now you are just asserting that people are not only wrong, but that they have been proven wrong by the passage of time. And that isn’t true.
We will all have a much clearer understanding of the impact of these injections in a couple years. Anyone making absolute claims about them, whether it is that they are absolutely safe or that they are absolutely dangerous is jumping the gun and running the risk of looking really foolish once more data has been collected
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Gotta love the commentators saying “well other things kill you too!” Yeah! and as a society we are trying to tackle it! Some person posting that bacon is bad for your heart, LMFAO! How do you people take yourselves seriously? Really? Do you practice in front of a mirror while saluting Hannity?
Well if bacon is bad for my heart I better go get an experimental vaccine from some pharmaceutical company who absolutely 100% un-sarcastically really truly has Humanities best interest in their mind!
Yes. If you do things that are not perfectly healthful, then be sure to get vaccinated. It ups the odds in your favor.
Of course those who treat their bodies as temples also need to get vaccinated because it is a delusion that no one ever gets sick in a temple. But since there are so few of them, if they get sick, it won’t overwhelm the hospitals when they don’t. The harm they do comes from misleading others more than their own illnesses.
How do we take ourselves seriously? Buy understanding paradoxes and logic. She doesn’t look healthy or 29. How many kids? Kids cause stress. Stress in the number one killer not covid. Open your fucking eye balls people. Your logic is pathetic.
I’m betting you probably don’t look “healthy”, either. Arrogant, selfish asshole comment!
Wow, quite a crazy response to Mr & Mrs comment. She is right …..she does not look to be at a healthy weight. It’s called an objective observation. Nothing selfish about it. It may or may not have been a factor in her winding up in the hospital but my guess is it was based on the CDC statistics.
You may be right or wrong about this woman and her weight. But surely you are wrong to go on and on about it so irrationally in public comments. The only reason for the way it’s phrased is to blame her for getting sick enough to be in the hospital. So be it. If weight is an issue in three quarters of people with severe disease, then the corollary is that it is not in the other quarter. And yet both groups are there. That is more than enough to recommend vaccination for both groups.
Is your answer to not have children or simply not care about them so they don’t cause stress? Even anti vaxxers can’t be that delusional.
She looked healthy in Greece. She looks scared and sick with covid. You require mental gymnastics, and cognitive dissonance to call her names, because she is fit, young and sick. You simply don’t know enough about germ theory to understand what’s happening around you. That’s fine. Do what you want. What’s wrong is going out of your way to convince people the vaccine is bad, just to act like you are smarter and stronger than everyone else. Beware. Pride goeth before a fall.
Mr & Mrs had no name calling. It was the reposes to her post that did. My guess is these nasty remarks are by people who have BMI above ideal. ? The subject of the story does not look healthy in the photos in Greece. She looks happy and that is wonderful but she is very overweight. And yes, I am vaccinated but don’t believe healthy people of their appropriate weight need to be.
Vaccines are being pushed in a manner that goes against the nature of herd immunity for the entire population. You clearly need to back up and recognize the vaccine is best for those who the most vulnerable, and everyone else needs to power up on an anti inflammatory lifestyle. This ia how to strengthen your families and communities. Forgot about the lack of focus on diet and targeted supplementation from our health leaders the past 18 months.
USRDA is a joke, and from what I understand about (the) health awareness of our educational system is a testament to where we currently reside on a national level.
People have a real hard time understanding root causes.
The infusion will not get you to the summit of everest, will not get you anywhere in life, with out a strong grasp of the mind body connection.
If you refuse to accept the hard work needed to live a disciplined life, then you will suffer the consequences.
Don’t blame anyone else for your lifestyle.
Maybe if the doctors gave her hydroxychloroquine and vitamin C she probably can make a really fast come back like I did without even going to the hospital.
Don’t let them put you on a respirator either because the covid flu turns into viral pneumonia and the respirator machine forces the fluid deeper into your lungs and drowns you to death and that’s why people die on a respirator.
I cant tell if you are trolling or not. If you are you should probably dial it back in order to sound more realistic.
Personaly I use witchcraft and voodoo
This is absolutely crazy. She’s expressing her experience telling you how sick she’s been. Your reply…. saying take Ivermectin. Oh I know people who didn’t get that sick what the hell people are dying from taking ivermectin wrap your brain around that.
They don’t care. They are now internet virologists, epidemiologists, dieticians, and doctors. Armchair experts that “did their research “. Their bedside manner may be lacking but by god they, and only they , know the truth about everything concerning Covid.
They will, in their infinite knowledge, dispense their extensive internet medical training in each and every article.
I call them fifteen minute experts. Fifteen minutes in a web browser on a computer and now they can tell everyone else what to do. It just about as good as a degree from a Trump school.
People are also dying from side effects of the vax as well. The sad truth is no one truly understands about life is that death is also a part of life every breath you take and every heartbeat is just one closer to that final one . Regardless of what anyone thinks the clock is set by the universe and there is nothing you can do to extend that clock. The only things you can do that has any effect on your life is how you spend those heartbeats live unhealthy your heartbeats will be spent in pain , live locked away from others your heartbeats will be painful and Lonely . Thinking that you or we are all powerful that we are truly in control or that the government or anyone else can do anything to change the number of heartbeats is a mental illness.
“People are also dying from side effects of the vax as well.”
Liar