COVID-19 Takes the Lives of a 70th and 71st Mendocino County Resident

COVID Death Matt LaFeverIn a series of press releases issued yesterday by Mendocino County Public Health, the public learned that two more County residents have succumbed to COVID-19. The County’s 70th death is a 94-year-old vaccinated woman from Mendocino County. The 71st death was an unvaccinated 78-year-old man from Ukiah.

These deaths were announced amongst the backdrop of Mendocino County’s Public Health Officer Dr. Andy Coren’s presentation to the Board of Supervisors yesterday where he announced the latest COVID-19 surge is beginning to end. He characterized the surge as particularly affecting Mendocino County’s COVID-19 unvaccinated population.

Dr. Coren said as of yesterday, Mendocino County’s daily case rate is 39.25/100,000 compared to the daily case rate at the peak of the Delta Variant surge of 55.71/100,000. This downward trend is consistent with state-wide COVID-19.

Dr. Coren said there are currently 8 COVID patients in Mendocino County intensive care units and not enough staff to man more ICU needs in the county. Public Health has alerted state health officials to the state of the ICU beds and Dr. Coren said support would be coming soon.Daily Positive Cases COVID Mendocino

Since the Federal Drug Administration has certified the Pfizer vaccine, Dr. Coren said. there has been a modest increase in vaccine demand. At this point, 78.1% of Mendocino County’s vaccine eligible population is partially and 65.5% of eligible residents are fully vaccinated, exceeding the state average.

Mendocino County Public Health is asking Mendocino County residents to “exercise caution when placing themselves in situations that could expose them to COVID-19, especially considering the new more infectious Delta variant.”

Public Health continues to encourage residents to “follow all CDC and CDPH guidance’s at this time. Vaccination, masking and social distancing remain the best options for combating the Covid-19 Virus.”

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Farce
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Farce
2 years ago

The surge is ending. Hey- he said it, the doctor. I’m just repeating it.

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
2 years ago
Reply to  Farce

Folks were saying that before Delta showed up. I hope it is ending. Getting tired of masking at work.

grey fox
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grey fox
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Kirby

I just wish people could understand what we see every day and what it is actually like to be a patient in the ICU, because it’s brutal, and if it’s one thing I hear time and time again from patients who are not intubated is that they have regrets.. And that’s, I guess, what led me to reaching out This from an interview with a St Joe’s nurse. LOCO9/15/21

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2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

I wish you had enough help.

grey fox
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grey fox
2 years ago

The United States has reached another grim milestone in its fight against the devastating Covid-19 pandemic: 1 in 500 Americans have died from coronavirus since the nation’s first reported infection. CNN news 9/15/21

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

660k covid deaths , and 70 million boomers survived . So is it the older crowd that keeps the flu circulating? They get it multiple times and fight it for weeks, the younger crowd has it for days at most and gets it once at most. Due to the size of this older generation, you better get used to a new flu every year. We’ll see how long the boomers can push for masking and lock downs . Once again, how many people under 30 have died with the corona, like 8000 or something, pathetic pandemic.

cutommorrow
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cutommorrow
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

I lost a friend to covid, in her 30’s. Three children left behind wondering what tomorrow will bring. She spent three weeks in the hospital battling for her life.

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FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

We get it. You dont like boomers and have no respect for older generations. I remember when respecting and caring for your elders was a widespread American virtue. How times have changed.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

Not a matter of respect, it’s reality fogdog, I love boomers but I hate people that spread drama and panic among an unaffected crowd.

T. Laswell
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T. Laswell
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

You know, when YOU are sitting in a strange little foyer at 4 am waitng to hear if your loved one is going to live or die- When YOUR whole world has been shattered, maybe you will realize all your endless percentages and ‘age group’ bs doesnt matter!
I suspect you love no one, so it does not affect you.
I am sorry for your soul.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  T. Laswell

It’s called Empathy and some commenters here are lacking it.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  T. Laswell

The level the pro vax pack stoops to just keeps getting lower and lower.

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger
Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

That number doesn’t tell the full story .
A quarter of the total deaths are from the 85 and older age group which make up 2 percent of the population.

The full breakdown of those numbers from the study can be found here.

https://apple.news/AruAOX8L7Q5OT3DQbu4dhmQ

Norman Spinran
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Norman Spinran
2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

The death toll doesn’t tell the full story.

Covid cause suffering, disability, loss of income and loss of productivity.

Preventing covid infections is a worthy goal.

Horrace Mann
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Horrace Mann
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

that’s 200 per 100,000 who have died and this number of 640,000 deaths exceeds our loses in Viet Nam by 1,000 percent.

T. Laswell
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T. Laswell
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

ANYone who downvotes FACTS is a g*&^%nm evil troll. What is the matter with you tin-foil q-nuts anyway? Not enough hugs or what?

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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  T. Laswell

It’s an obsessive mission. It’s a game , you see. It’s all a game. Downvote, check. Post absolutely false misleading bullshit as much as possible, check. Obsess over the math, is it from or of, and oh god the immigrants, check. No sympathy for the dead, check. Yes, Trolling is what it’s called.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago

Surge beginning to end? Don’t be so quick to celebrate. All the vaccinated are churning out variants like mad and putting pressure on the immunity of themselves, and of the unvaxxed.

“The reason why we can get fooled is because as the new infectious variants shows up, they will not start rapidly infecting everyone right away, but need some time to build momentum, just as we have seen with the previous variants such as the UK (alpha) variant recently taking over in Alberta, or the delta (India) variant taking over the alpha variant in the UK. That very slow build up is seen as a drop in cases, a flat line of very little observed cases – the valley of fitness – before a new virus emerges and dominates the infection rate in the population.

Compared to the current variants that have taken over the world, the SARS-CoV-2 virus might require several reiterations yet to fully adapt to a variant that will be able to completely bypass protection from vaccinal antibodies.

Thus, we might be celebrating at the moment of the amazing success of the mass vaccination campaign while the doomsday scenario is actually playing out behind the scenes.

It is this short-sighted view without a deeper appreciation of the virus life cycle that is leading the world to commit these blunders.

In addition, those who might attempt to speak up against this policy error, are highly likely to be censored for actually promoting a false narrative, to the degree that Dr. Bossche himself has experienced.”

I’d also make resident plural as we are talking about 2. But that
is probably a wild conspiracy theory too.

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Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

So what “ blunders” are we doing, exactly? Is the very notion of saying that the surge is slowing down the blunder your quote speaks of? I’m confused, maybe you can enlighten me here. Should we just continue to feel shitty and depressed and not accept good news at face value? The article did not state that covid is going away now. That said, I do agree that a lot of covid discussion that doesn’t fit the main stream narrative gets quickly squashed, be it on YouTube, this site, or elsewhere, which is very disturbing.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Damn, I think I’m pretty tolerant. I let outright lies get repeated which I think if I had unlimited manpower/time, I wouldn’t.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

No, you hold an iron grip on this site. I don’t think that you mean to but you clearly have your subconscious bias like everyone else. Being a commenter here requires egg shell walking thru a seemingly arbitrary list of rules that are applied subjectively by you. It’s honestly weird having a reporter also slogging it out in the comment section and manually okaying or not every single comment. I’d think it would be unfulfilling and unpaid enough that a simple algorithm would do the trick. It can be difficult to speak freely here and not have my post deleted.
It’s like if we had Samantha Karges come in here , three glasses of wine in, snickering about a bad booking photo. It’s just awkward. And no one is asking you to be the final arbiter of truth as that would be impossible.
Even this article,(albeit written by mr. Lafever) shows typical media covid hype bias. The fact that only 72 people in Mendocino have died from covid is spectacular. For the country as a whole, 1 in 500 Americans have died from covid, in Mendocino it’s 1 in 1242. And Mendo isn’t exactly loaded with spring chickens. But upbeat articles on covid are definitely not ok these days, because it doesn’t fit the lefty panic narrative.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

Algorithim? Jeffersonian, you do not have clear idea of what is available techwise to a small site like mine.

To me the rules seem pretty clear (And other than sheep rule which I am vaguely ashamed of but I was losing my mind over it) and standard.

Mainly have something to offer–facts, perspective, humor–and don’t be mean to other commenters. Most of the rest of the rules are just clarifications of those. Soon a link to the rules will be right by the commenting box so it is even easier to make sure you don’t break the rules.

I don’t manually okay every comment. Just those of commenters on moderation. If you go another month without telling another commenter they make you sick, then I’ll remove the moderation.

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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I actually enjoy the “sheep rule” but I still feel that the rules should be called “policies”, since policies can be applied pretty unevenly, while rules appear to be made so that they are able to be broken…

I think the job you have created for yourself looks exhausting, and I fear for your health and sanity, but if I was in your position, I would have “suspension of commenting privileges”, which I would mete out pretty easily, considering how much pure silliness is daily presented here…

It would be a lot of fun if original and entertaining comments, especially if they are fun and stimulate spirited discussion, or just extra silly and stimulated further clever silliness, were awarded points, instead of “plusses and minuses”, and, I still think you should have a panel of photos, ranging from smiling to enraged, so that your opinion of a comment would be immediately apparent…

Thanks Ms Kemp, be safe, be well…

grey fox
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grey fox
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

And give out prizes like for funniest, best facts, most claims debunked, longest comment.shortest, and a special prize for longest time not commenting on here

grey fox
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grey fox
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

And what words would set off this algorithm. And do you realize how much time would be spent checking the algorithm. Algorithms can cause racial bias and increase inequality. Also what algorithm do you recommend? There are 10,000,010,000.

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hmm
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Personally I prefer a complete lack of moderation, but once you decide to moderate I don’t any reason to tolerate nonsense at all.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Glad you don’t make yourself the decider of truth. We were initially told this virus could not have been manipulated by humans in a lab, but the truth is that it very likely was.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

That’s an opinion that can be argued one way or another. The things I’m thinking about are actual facts that should be non controversial. Does Japan promote Ivermectin as a cure for COVID for instance. No, it doesn’t. https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/japan-has-not-approved-ivermectin-as-a-covid-treatment-and-its-still-using-the-moderna-vaccine/ Or Was Michelle Obama born a male. No she wasn’t. Both of those I’ve banned. But they are the only two.

If I had time, there would be more.

Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
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Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

You banned a post stating that Ivermectin is being promoted by Japan???
I obviously did not see the post, but that seems a bit overly harsh. While it is true the Japanese Government has not given their thumbs up to Ivermectin, the head of the Japanese Medical association has recommended Ivermectin for treatment of Covid.

The Japanese Medical Association is not a government entity, but is is the equivalent of the AMA here in America and is a highly regarded group of medical experts that advise the government of Japan.

Even something as seemingly ridiculous as Michelle Obama being born a man should not be banned in my humble opinion. Why would you take it upon yourself to try and fact check every post? You are not omniscient. You actually have no personal knowledge of the chromosomal makeup of Michelle Obama, so how can you be so sure of yourself as to ban that claim? While highly unlikely, it is in the realm of possibilities. I have always been of the mindset that the best way to overcome misinformation is to let people dispute it with the correct information and let the consumers decide what they believe.

Banning certain ideas and topics actually gives them more legitimacy as people are more likely to believe it may be true when people are censored from even discussing it.

Personally, I would only call for deleting posts that violate the rules against personal attacks and such and would stay off the slippery slope of deciding what is fact and what is fiction.

Anyway, just my two cents on the topic 😁

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thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago

If I am not mistaken, the fellow who was in the video that was circulated referring to ivermectin in Japan was an official within some sort of health body in Tokyo. I can’t speak to his specific credentials but that is what I recall.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago

No. the head of the Japanese Medical Association has not recommended it. Please read up on it.

Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
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Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, thank you for the correction, I misspoke.
It was the head of the Tokyo Medical Association who recommended the use of Ivermectin, not the head of the Japan Medical Association.

This seems like a rather small difference though. The Tokyo Medical Association is a group of over 6000 doctors who do indeed advise the government of Japan on medical issues and is the largest sub-group belonging to the Japan Medical Association.

Here is what your own linked article says on the matter…
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“While the chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association, Haruo Ozaki, has recommended the use of ivermectin on COVID-19 patients, neither he nor the organization is associated with the Japanese government.

The group is akin to the American Medical Association in the United States. It can make suggestions, but cannot enact government policies, according to its parent organization, the Japan Medical Association.”
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With the exception of getting the name wrong, the essence of my post was correct… at least according to the Poynter article you posted.

Kym Kemp
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2 years ago

Last February, the head of the Tokyo Medical Association Dr. Ozaki suggested that doctors should on their own discretion be allowed to prescribe the drug. He was still urging that as of August. HOWEVER, he is not the head of the Japanese Medical Association and Japan as well as Tokyo does not allow Ivermectin to treat COVID. They only allow two drugs for treatment: Remdesivir and Baricitinib. And in fact the Tokyo Medical Association itself does not recommend that Ivermectin be used as a cure for COVID.

So if you are stating that the head of the Japanese Medical Association is recommending Ivermectin for COVID and thus implying that Japan the country is on board, you are wrong.

If the head of the California State Medical Association recommended doctors be allowed to prescribe cannabis as a cure for COVID and neither the Calif State Medical Association or the AMA or the US government joined in agreement with him, that is not anything like the US uses Cannabis to treat COVID.

One doctor, yes, a prestigious doctor, is simply recommending that if people want to treat their COVID with Ivermectin, they should be allowed to. I actually rather agree with him. BUT…to be clear…it is absolutely not the Japanese Medical Association recommending Ivermectin be used for COVID.

If I have explained that to you, as I have to one particular commenter and that commenter keeps saying stuff like this:

. I said the head of the Japanese medical association recommends all doctors prescribe ivermectin to prevent and cure this flu. I was one of the first ones to say it on this site and have stated the fact numerous times on here. I read from all sources, right and left, scientific and parody, I know what I am talking about. Being that it is the head of the Japanese medical association, I would then say the government is taking his advice since they haven’t thrown him in jail, executed him, forced him to commit suicide by falling on his sword, or even published news releases which state the Japanese (jma) are a bunch of kook geniuses who should not be listened to. Saying it is not true is splitting hairs

Then, to my thinking, that person is either crazy or trolling. And, I don’t need to waste my readers’ time reading that crap. And I don’t need to waste my time on that fuzzy thinking or deliberate misrepresentation.

Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym, thank you for taking the time to respond. Probably more time than was warranted to be honest, but I appreciate it.

One minor point though…

Ozaki went a little farther than just saying doctors should be free to prescribe Ivermectin if they wished. He also pointed to the strong observational evidence coming from India and Africa that it has benefit.

I understand your concern and frustration when someone repeatedly posts misinformation or crosses into that trolling area. I guess I would just again warn of the dangers associated with censoring viewpoints, or even misinformation. Mistakes will be made. I also get that you don’t want to spend all your time researching and disputing what people post here, but that is what you have us for 😆 I will counter what I see as misinformation and others will counter me if they believe my post is misinformation. I think your correction of my error was more constructive than if you had just deleted my post.

Obviously you can run your site any way you see fit and I really appreciate everything you do!

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Kym Kemp
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2 years ago

Hugh, I don’t know why this was held. You are not on moderation. I’ve had a few complaints that this is occasionally and somewhat randomly occurring.

As to Ozaki, the quote I had read from his interview did not sound as if he was vigorously advocating for its use. HOWEVER, your comment prompted me to spend time I didn’t have to find a translation of the interview. I found it. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/choken/kijironko/cknews/20210818-OYT8T50030/

It’s terrible and nearly incomprehensible. (And also funny…one section is titled “Academic sites and researchers who do not touch themselves”…I feel like part of Beavis and Butthead but still, can anyone read that without laughing?) Nonetheless, I think Ozaki is advocating for Ivermectin’s use. So I’ll agree that you are correct there.

However, my main point is correct. One doctor is not Japan and is not Japan’s medical association. And even the head of Tokyo’s Medical Association is not the entire medical association and Tokyo’s medical association has not recommended Ivermectin for COVID in anything I can find. And the FDA is clearly stating that there is no evidence at this point that COVID is helped by Ivermectin. So…unless more evidence comes up, let’s stick with the facts.

That said, I did not delete you for having stated the facts incorrectly the first time (heck, I made a mistake here and I understand mistakes) and I have no intention of deleting an error by a commenter the first time, but, once the facts are known to the commenter, if they continue to repeat the error/continue to troll, then I have only so much time to keep refuting nonsense.

Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
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Hugh Manatee (banned by LoCO)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Awaiting approval?
Have I been put on moderation?
Why? For a minor error?

May I point out one of your minor errors that I wasn’t going to bring up?

In your reply to me, you said, “So if you are stating that the head of the Japanese Medical Association is recommending Ivermectin for COVID and thus implying that Japan the country is on board, you are wrong.”

The thing is, if you read my post, I specifically said that Ivermectin was NOT endorsed by the Japanese government and also that the Tokyo Medical Group (although I mistakenly called it the Japanese Medical Group) was NOT affiliated with the Japanese government.

It seems you me accused of things I did not state.

This goes directly to my point of censoring information. It seems you now have me on moderation based on your mistaken belief that I stated things I did not state. I actually stated the opposite.

Edit: Hmmm… this post went through without the “Awaiting for approval” message, so I don’t know what is going on🤣

I know you are busy Kym, and I truly do appreciate this site and all your work. Take care 😁

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Norman Spinran
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Norman Spinran
2 years ago

Haruo Ozaki, who recommended the use of ivermectin on COVID-19 patients, is the head of the Tokyo Medical Association, not the Japanese Medical Society.

I haven’t seen any indication on whether the Tokyo Medical Association itself is recommending ivermectin.

grey fox
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grey fox
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

The truth as spoken by who? Can you please verify who gave you this information and their credentials

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I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  grey fox

You must have either missed the words “very likely” in my post or not understood their meaning and why I included them.

Check around for yourself and see what you find. If you find anything convincing that indicates there was not human manipulation of the virus, please share. I have seen nothing like that.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

How’s that Remdesivir working out? Good article by Dr Peter Breggin.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeffersonian

The blunders are vaccinating mid pandemic with an injection that offers minimal to no immunity. Then through asymptomatic infection of the VAXXED creates a shit storm.

https://merogenomics.ca/blog/en/140/Immune-escape-Dr-Geert-Vanden-Bossche-explained

From here. /\
It is an extremely long and involved analysis into the work and premise of vanden bossche’s claims.

His resume is thick as a brick. And anyone who claims he’s a liar or spreading false information, needs to look inside themselves. Even if we started now. No way any of us would learn enough to reach his level of expertise in immunology generally, and vaccines specifically.

Here’s a couple side dishes from the report :

“mass vaccinations will potentially help develop immune escape variants of SARS-CoV-2 and why this could be very dangerous to everybody. By immune escape, we mean a virus that has mutated to be able to be completely unaffected by the antibodies meant to stop it from working. Basically, the mutations impact the ability of the antibodies to either bind the virus or be able to prevent it from infecting cells, even if they are bound to the virus.”

“Infectious pressure is in constant battle with the immune pressure. Viruses thrive (in a population) when there is a high infectious pressure. Viruses are under attack though when exposed to high immune pressure. So when infectious pressure is high and immune pressure is low, a wave of disease breaks out in a population. Conditions of high infectious pressure typically do not promote selection of mutant new strains to emerge in a population. When immune pressure is high and infectious pressure is low, the population will appear largely unaffected but such conditions can promote the emergence of new mutant strains when they develop a selective advantage to find new hosts (and therefore escape the immune pressure and start increasing infectious pressure again).”

“Adaptive cell-mediated immunity is complex and one of its main stars is the T-cells. T-cell immunity according to Dr. Bossche do not play a role in protection against the virus infection as that is not the role of cytotoxic T-cells. Rather, cytotoxic T-cells protect against the COVID-19 disease development instead because the cytotoxic T-cells kill already infected cells in the body. Dr. Bossche claims that currently none of the vaccines have been shown to induce T-cells that can destroy virus infected cells and that is to be expected because these COVID-19 vaccines do not work as many regular vaccines with a live but weakened virus (attenuated live viruses) which induce much broader immune responses. Our currently employed mRNA and DNA vaccines just provide instructions to produce one of the main viral proteins, namely the spike protein. We could have considered the option of using attenuated virus as a vaccine to start with but now it is too late as once the population has already been vaccinated and induced their adaptive immunity, we primed our bodies to respond in this one particular way. Use of attenuated vaccines after will no longer have same impact.”

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2 years ago
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Yes that is a highly biased view of his career and statements. If you wish to discredit him and ignore him that is a useful site to aid you in justifying that choice.

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Norman Spinran
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

The statement that Covid vaccine is “an injection that offers minimal to no immunity” is 100% false.

By making such a statement, you prove your ignorance of lots of validated research, and you encourage people to not get vaccinated, which could result in unnecessary suffering, disability, loss of income or death. Shame on you.

There are many research papers on this, but here is the most recent, Sept. 15, from the highly prestigious New England Journal of Medicine: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34525277/

BNT162b2 is the Pfizer vaccine.

“Vaccine efficacy against Covid-19 was 91.3% through 6 months of follow-up.” Also, “Vaccine efficacy against severe disease was 96.7%.” That’s excellent, especially in the context of our health care system being under extreme stress right now.

Interesting, the article that you cited about Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche calls his claims “bombastic.” “Dr. Bossche has faced huge criticism for his opinions. We do not know if his information is actually true or not and as such we focused on presenting the story, not on confirming its scientific accuracy (which we would not be able to do anyway).”

Anyway, Dr. Bossche’s statement that “that currently none of the vaccines have been shown to induce T-cells that can destroy virus infected cells.” is 100% false. There is research on this.

The most recent is “T‐cell response after first dose of BNT162b2 SARS‐CoV‐2 vaccine among healthcare workers with previous infection or cross‐reactive immunity,” Sept. 8 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8426108/).

“After first dose of vaccination, there was a strong T‐cell response to S peptides in almost all the healthcare workers,” previously infected or not.

“ Strikingly, among the infection‐naïve individuals, CD8+ and CD4+ T‐cell responses against S peptides were increased in frequency and magnitude in those having cross‐reactive immunity, in comparison with those without pre‐existing T‐cell reactivity.” To me, this suggests that booster shots may be effective in increasing cellular [T-cell] immunity.

The world is going to continue to vaccinate (personal opinion based on numerous observations). If you don’t want to get vaccinated, then don’t. But, up to now, the epidemic is predominately of the unvaccinated.

For any readers that want to read what the published research says, go to PubMed.com. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

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2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Do you have any statistics that show any country with a high vaccination rate has generated even one new variant? You have constructed a scenario that doesn’t exist. Out of one study of vaccination for one disease in domesticated chickens in which virtually every member of the population is vaccinated but still infective. It matters what virus whether and how fast vaccines change it.

For one thing, a chicken infected with Mareks is infected for life. So vaccinated or no, it always carries the virus even if it keeps it from showing symptoms. And it infects any birds it comes into contact throughout its lifetime and the virus resides in contaminated environments outside of living individuals for decades. That virus has a good chance to keep its strains going.

Corona virus doesn’t do that. It can’t survive more than a few hours outside a human spreading it and a recovered person does not keep infection others. Once the recovered, the chain is broken. So anything that speeds the non infective recovered state will reduce the chance of spreading anything, not increase it. The mutations of corona viruses do not depend on “cultivation” but on the numbers of infective people.

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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Just one differing opinion….

Janci Lindsay.jpeg
Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

This gal has created quite a stir!

“In April 2021, Dr Janci called on the CDC to immediately halt Covid vaccine production and distribution. Citing fertility, blood-clotting concerns (coagulopathy), and immune escape, Dr. Lindsay explained to the committee the scientific evidence showing that the coronavirus vaccines are not safe.”

informedchoiceaustralia.com/post/uncensored-dr-janci-chunn-lindsay-ph-d-molecular-biologist-and-toxicologist

But who the hell am I to not trust the science of Fauchi?

😉

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Auntie Ovine
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2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Apparently all anti vaxxers subscribe to the same small group of propagandists and delightedly share their musings around the world. And never ever critically examine any of it. Waving the name of Dr. Fauci as if was sure to discredit everything is just like the Progressives waving the name of Trump. It is an attempt to discredit by association instead of facts. It’s not just Fauci but almost all doctors, researchers and institutions around the world who disagree with anti vaxxer’s flights of doomsday fancy.

“Inaccurate: The similarity between the human protein syncytin-1 and the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 is too small to cause concerns about potential cross-reactivity. COVID-19 vaccines aren’t gene therapy as they cannot modify human DNA.
Inadequate support: Evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines don’t cause any fertility problems in men or women. Such claims are unfounded.
Flawed reasoning: Preliminary studies suggesting that the spike protein produced during SARS-CoV-2 infection causes blood clotting can’t be extrapolated to COVID-19 vaccines. The level of spike protein produced through vaccination is much lower, and aren’t associated with the same effects during infection. New variants can arise with or without vaccines, but no evidence suggests that COVID-19 vaccines increase this risk. On the contrary, vaccination might reduce the likelihood of new variants emerging by reducing viral spread.”

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/14/world/ancient-spider-amber-scn/index.html

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

I didn’t create the scenario. And I will be providing no further documentation or links to you, because when you demand them and I oblige, then it’s been crickets. Gonna have to do your own digging A.ovine. 🐔

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2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Of course you didn’t create it. You just repeat it without examination. One of the things that is so off-putting about anti vaxxer misinformation is that the exact same words by the exact same few people appear on site after site after site. Any Google search will pull up dozens and dozens of sites reiterating of the same couple of dozen experts repeating the exact same fearful allegations in the exact same words and not one of them will even ask the question “Can this be correct?” even if the allegations are totally contrary to what they can see with their own eyes. There is zero questioning no matter how outlandish the allegations as long as it is in favor of being afraid of vaccines. Especially mRNA vaccines even though they conflate the adverse reactions of adenovirus vaccines, which to me are somewhat more unpredictable than mRNA ones, in order to do it. Anti vaxxers are so indiscriminate in their attacks. As long as it sounds bad, they constantly repeat it. If anyone questions it, they in turn will get attacked.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

You claim that the source of the variants is the vaccinated. I haven’t seen any proof of that.

You say covid may “fully adapt to a variant that will be able to completely bypass protection from vaccinal antibodies.” That could happen, but it’s not a given. In the meantime, the vaccine is protective, although I acknowledge that the protection may be waning. Boosters help – I got mine.

Even if Covid develops resistance to current vaccines, the Covid vaccines likely will be able to be adjusted, just like the influenza vaccines are adjusted every year to account for new influenza strains.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago

I like the graphic here…

“COVID DEATH”

Get vaccinated, go do it now…

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

How many Mendo residents died during the 1918-19 Spsnish Flu?

How many died during the last year of regular influenza?

grey fox
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grey fox
2 years ago
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A google search can answer your questions. May take awhile but public records are available. I would do it, but am doing my own research at the moment.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
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Alberta
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Alberta
2 years ago
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Dont have deaths, but here are cases

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Kym Kemp
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2 years ago
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A small flaw in your implication…The worst flu season in the US? In the 2017 to 2018 season, 61,000 people died from the flu. For the last decade, about 36,000 people died per year from the flu. https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-die-flu/

And in 2020, with a massive shut down, we had 345,323 deaths. Over five times as many as the worst year…and, again, just pointing out, we were shut down, wore masks, and cleaned our hands at a massively higher rate.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

We also counted covid deaths in a manner in which we have never counted flu deaths.

I understand that debating exactly what number of people died FROM covid is a fruitless endeavor. It is also the case that the official covid death count is a separate statistic from annual influenza deaths. They are calculated in entirely different ways. This doesn’t mean that covid is exactly the same as a typical flu, all the evidence indicates it is several times more deadly than an average flu, but it does help understand the way that data is being presented to us with the context altered to create a certain impression.

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2 years ago
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My grandmother , my Mom’s Mom, sat me and my brother down one day and told us what the “Spanish Influenza” was like. Her baby daughter Virginia had died. She nearly died. So many children were dying that the sight of cut down adult coffins passing by on wagons was common. We really need to pay more attention.

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2 years ago

infowars.com/posts/idaho-doctor-reports-a-20-times-increase-of-cancer-in-vaccinated-patients/” target=”_blank” rel=”noopener nofollow ugc”>Idaho doctor reports a ‘20 times increase’ of cancer in vaccinated patients

Idaho just put this guy on their Central District Board of Health. They are literally taking over the healthcare system with grassroots conservatives.

twitter.com/ToTheLifeboats/status/1430589141344034816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1430589141344034816%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2Fposts%2Fidaho-doctor-reports-a-20-times-increase-of-cancer-in-vaccinated-patients%2F

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2 years ago
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Yes. Yes, they are. Conservatives in Colorado have hounded the members of their boards of health out of their positions. They then installed an anti vaxxer pathologist on their biggest board of health. “Cole is a celebrated figure among anti-vaxxers. He made headlines in July by calling the vaccine the “clot shot” and “needle rape” in a presentation to America’s Frontline Doctors (AFD), a group known for COVID-19 misinformation.”

https://www.businessinsider.com/idaho-ryan-cole-public-health-board-anti-vaccine-2021-9

However Colorado’s very low vaccination rate has one good aspect. If not for Coloradans, for everyone else. They are recording reinfection rates. “The data shows 2,625 reinfection cases from January-August 2021. Of those cases, 446 were among fully vaccinated people, and 2,178 people were not vaccinated. ” so that a study of reinfection is clearer there than other places.

https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/colorado-logs-more-than-2600-covid-19-reinfections-in-2021/

fishkiller
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fishkiller
2 years ago

This leaked zoom call is interesting……
how many calls like this has Coren and Hoffman been involved in?………my guess is weekly to inform them of the “talking points”

https://nationalfile.com/doctor-wants-to-be-scary-to-the-public-and-inflate-covid-numbers-if-you-dont-get-vaccinated-you-know-youre-going-to-die/

Wally (banned on Loco)
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2 years ago

😉

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Horrace Mann
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Horrace Mann
2 years ago

Israel thought the surge was ending over the weekend and they are now seeing it bounce back, even after two million residents got a booster shot. But the reason for the surge is intensive testing of all school aged children and half the cases are now in that age group there.

Could it be since we are not testing school aged children, we actually have a larger surge than the current testing program is catching or identifying?

Maybe we should test all school aged children for a week to see what is going on unless we want a see no evil policy.

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
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Time to test the VAXXED.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago

Question ,

Should doctors begin refusing to treat gang related shootings where the gun shot patients were involved in mutual street warfare, under the theory that those who don’t take the vaccine should be denied treatment due to their personal choices?

The Real Brian
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mega me

Poverty (and results of) is not a choice as much as taking a free vaccine for a communicable disease.

Instead of denying treatment, how about those anti-vax YouTube doctors setup clinics to treat their followers.👍

thatguyinarcata
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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

What about people who are opting out of the vaccine because of their experience as part of a marginalized community with a history of abuse from medical authorities? Do they deserve to have their concerns disregarded and have their bodily autonomy usurped or be (further) excluded from mainstream society?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

Mental health and paranoia should be treated outside of comment forums.

thatguyinarcata
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2 years ago
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I don’t know why you’re choosing insults over dialog. Many of the groups that have the most hesitancy have that hesitancy rooted in their cultural experience with this country. This includes black people and poor, southern, white people.

Both groups have been targeted by state sponsored medical terror in the form of forced sterilization. Should their concerns be brushed away now so that you can feel more comfortable?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

It’s ok to be wrong.

The vaccine will be available for those that want it, when they want it.

thatguyinarcata
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2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

What do you believe I’m wrong about?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

What’s your position, in a nutshell?

thatguyinarcata
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2 years ago
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On this question of metering medial care?

That no one should be refused medical care because of a central authorities judgement about the “correctness” of their life style choices.

If you didn’t even know what my position was, why were you telling me I was wrong?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
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Yes! Unvaxed Covid clinics. They can dispense ivermectin, hydrocloraquin, bleach. No one wears masks. Family can wander in and out. No isolation.

Cleverkins
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2 years ago

I’m curious… if folks don’t want to get vaccinated to protect themselves and the community against the likelihood of hospitalization and possible death, why don’t they wave medical care when they contract COVID? Lots of innocent people are dying because they can’t get care for treatable injuries and illness, because there are limited beds and medical staff available due to the pandemic. I’m glad I didn’t get polio, smallpox, tetanus, and a lot of other severe diseases because of vaccines. Freedom comes with responsibility.

Mega me
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Mega me
2 years ago
Reply to  Cleverkins

“Lots of innocent people are dying because they can’t get care for treatable injuries and illness, because there are limited beds and medical staff available due to the pandemic.“

Quantify “lots”
How many locally?
Nationwide?

How many people died because of the lockdowns ? People who couldn’t get surgeries or cancer screenings?

Nice Marmot
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Nice Marmot
2 years ago
Reply to  Cleverkins

Actually you’d be better off not going to the hospital. Get Ivermectin an oxygen compressor, z-pac, and a few other things you’ll be way better off. They jus tried to kill a friend of mine in a hospital in Denver. He befriended a nurse that told him whats up and saved his life. Do Not Go To Hospital!!

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Too Close For Comfort
2 years ago
Reply to  Nice Marmot

Zpac for your STD and Ivermectin for your butt worms but you’ll still have Covid.
That’s great that the nurse befriended your friend, too bad she is letting all these other people in her care die.
What do you have to do these days to get the “inside scoop” from a “nurse” at a “hospital?”

I know several doctors and nurses in this community and I am infuriated that they have been holding back on the cure for Covid all this time.

Do Not Go To Hospital!

All you have there is a bunch of educated health experts who are sworn to save you at any cost whether or not they get paid.

If you are brave enough to turn on OAN or listen to the real news, you’ll start to understand how big the plot is by doctors, nurses, and public health officials is to trick us into taking a shot.

I had a “heart attack” a few years ago and do you think I would trust a cardiologist to save me? No way buster. I did a deep search on reddit and found out that all I needed was an enema infused a tiny portion of President Trump’s earhair. Found the hair on ebay. Turkey baster. Problem solved.

Minority Abuse
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Minority Abuse
2 years ago

Kym, your blogs commenters opinions aren’t focused on ideas, just kindergarten dodge ball.

It’s clear, too many children in adults bodies, given free reign.

Shut down the comments, or create a pay per post.

I’m sure you would like to focus on family and your health.

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Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

You know, you don’t have to read the comments, right?

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Minority Abuse

Or you could run your news site as you wish and quit trying to tell others what to do.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

Nailed it

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago

Niki Minaj for President../covid-19/swollen-balls-and-censorship-nicki-minaj-story-gets-even-weirder

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

What did you learn from that article Brian?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago

To welcome you when you are ready.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

That was appropriately culty. I appreciate the frankness

Honestly
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Honestly
2 years ago

Could someone please debunk this video. I actually ended up in the Er with I guess a panic attack, no one cared cause I didn’t have COVID. My heart can’t handle this info. So I guess that’s my warning before you watch
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dPEkw1qF5i2Y/