6 Deaths Reported; Public Health Estimates 100+ New Cases

COVID DEATHPress release from the County of Humboldt:

Six Humboldt County residents have died as a result of COVID-19, including one person in their 30s, two in their 50s, one in their 60s and two over the age of 80. Ten COVID-related deaths have been reported in the county this week. Seventy-one have been recorded since the pandemic began.

“Each life lost to COVID-19 is a member of our community, someone’s family member, neighbor and friend,” said Public Health Director Sofia Pereira. “We grieve these losses for those who knew and loved them and for our entire community.”

Nineteen new cases of COVID-19 were confirmed today, and Public Health estimates around 100 additional cases have been reported to the state’s database. Local review of those cases, however, has been delayed due to further reductions in state-assigned staff and reassignment of local staff to contact tracing and vaccination efforts. These cases are expected to be processed by Monday’s report and added to the homepage counter. Demographic data for these cases will be included in next Friday’s weekly update.

Three new hospitalizations were also reported, including one person in their 30s, one in their 50s and one in their 60s.

The graph below shows average weekly case rates between unvaccinated and vaccinated residents in Humboldt County since Dec. 26, 2020, shortly after vaccines became available. As the graph illustrates, case rates continue to drop among vaccinated residents and rise among unvaccinated residents to nearly triple the rate of the previous peak in Jan. 2021.

Chart showing case rates (per 100K) since December 2020 with the unvaccinated case rate at 21, vaccinated at zero. Unvaccinated case rates climb to 28 in January, down as low as three in late April, then up to 26 in mid-May, while vaccinated case rates never exceeded two. On June 15 when COVID restrictions were lifted, the unvaccinated case rate was 10 and vaccinated case rate was zero. Then by mid-July cases for everyone began to climb. As of August 14, the unvaccinated case rate has risen to 83 and vaccinated case rate was down from 29 to 18.

Getting vaccinated is the most effective way to prevent severe outcomes from COVID-19. Immunocompromised individuals who received two doses of an mRNA vaccine (Moderna or Pfizer) are advised to get an additional dose of the same vaccine at least 28 days or more after their second dose.

Starting Monday, Aug. 30, all three vaccines including Moderna will be offered on Mondays by appointment at the Public Health Main Clinic located at 529 I St. in Eureka. Vaccines are available throughout the week at mobile Public Health clinics. Walk-ins are welcome, or appointments can be made in advance at MyTurn.ca.gov. For instructions in English or Spanish about how to use My Turn, go to humboldtgov.org/2872/Vaccine-Info.

See the schedule of upcoming Public Health clinics below:

Ferndale – Saturday, Aug. 28, from noon to 5 p.m.
Humboldt County Fair – main parking lot (1250 Fifth St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Redway – Sunday, Aug. 29, from 9 a.m. to 2:30 p.m.
Redwoods Rural Health Center (101 W. Coast Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Eureka – Monday, Aug. 30, from 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.
Public Health Main (529 I St.)
Moderna/Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Eureka – Tuesday, Aug. 31, from 9 a.m. to 1:30 p.m.
Samoa Bridge Boat Launch (1701 Waterfront Dr.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Eureka – Wednesday, Sept. 1, from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Wharfinger Building (1 Marina Way)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Eureka – Thursday, Sept. 2, from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m.
College of the Redwoods (7351 Tompkins Hill Road)
Moderna/Pfizer

McKinleyville – Friday, Sept. 3, from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Six Rivers Brewery (1300 Central Ave.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Samoa – Friday, Sept. 3, from 3:30 to 6 p.m.
Humboldt Bay Social Club (900 New Navy Base Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Vaccines are also available at many local pharmacies, and most allow walk-ins. To check availability of a particular vaccine at local pharmacies, visit vaccines.gov, or text a ZIP code to 438829 to find a participating pharmacy nearby.

Pfizer is authorized for those 12 and older, and Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are authorized for people age 18 and older. Minors must be accompanied by a parent or guardian. Full protection from vaccination is achieved two weeks after receiving the second dose of a two-dose series or two weeks after receiving a single-dose vaccine.

Given the rapid spread of the virus in the community, it is more important than ever to follow local health orders and guidance. The “COVID-19 FAQs” page of the county website has been expanded to include answers to frequently asked questions about gatherings and events, youth sports and at-home COVID-19 tests. Find out more at humboldtgov.org/COVIDFAQs.

View the Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download today’s data.

 

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 707-441-5000.

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov
Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard
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Humboldt Health Alert: humboldtgov.org/HumboldtHealthAlert

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Alf
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Alf
2 years ago

I thought dementia Joe and the rest of his Demonocrat party had all the answers to the COVID pandemic. Apparently they are actually doing a worse job. The numbers around here at least are higher than they ever were under the previous administration and we actually even have a vaccine now.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

To go with Demoncrats, I propose “Republicants”, because they look just like human beings but fail a voight-kampff test.

Smoking
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Smoking
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Thanks for making me google voight kampff. I remember enjoying that film and had a good chuckle too.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  Smoking

They are not replicants, but appear to be deeply entrenched anti-vax bots, as committed to burying the comments in the same crazy shit every time a story about COVID appears… Let’s see, overweight, myocardial infection, Ivermectin, the vax don’t work, breakthrough infection, DNA alteration… When will they give it up?

I think about them as the ISIS of Anti-Vax, you could kill them by the thousands but more would pop up to spread their crazy ideas whilst trying to kill their neighbors with stupid propoganda…

The ER and ICU are full. Anti-Vaxers can be identified by many methods, but are fully recognizable in public by their hostile rhetoric about nearly anything, they love weed but they are vocally abusive to anybody not wearing a mask, they are “religious” but they hate everyone else, largely uneducated and ignorant but feel they “know everything”, have no medical background but are “experts” in Immunology and Virology and standard of care, can barely read or comprehend but spend days reading nut-job sites and conspiracy theorists, hate all politicians but know exactly how to fix government, refuse to take medicine but smoke pot all day while calling it harmless, and are sure to focus on a few words of someone else’s comments and then concoct a tirade against the idea that someone else would call the ignorant ideas posted silly or trivial…

Anti-Vaxers are rude, stupid, ignorant, and, apparently, suicidal…

The hospitals are full of these idiots, but they still insist that the vaccine will kill you.

Senior Citizens are everywhere vaccinated, but those “Boomers” somehow destroyed America…

Out in the provinces, the farther out you go, the more idiots! In Modoc County, only about 40% are vaccinated, while in SF, they are pushing 85% and EVERYONE wears a mask, even while driving their own car, or while walking on the paths and sidewalks!

Humboldt County Anti-Vaxers, at least the 10 or so who continually post here over and over:

You are very foolish, but you can still have your vaccine at no cost.

Even though I know that you would rather die of COVID, down in the crowded and filthy slapped-together negative-airflow rooms of your backstreet crappy hospitals,
you can still have the ONE thing that will give you a fighting chance against infection and spreading the disease!

Even though you think it’s some kind of neat poison, we forgive you!

Join the converts! Even Dave Kirby, Bushytails, Guest and even Taurusballzhoff are all vaccinated!

When Humboldt County whackos get vaccinated, think about it, we all win!

Anti-Vaxers will all eventually get scared and take their vaccines! It will be so inconvenient to NOT be vaccinated, especially when Target, WalMart and Winco won’t let you in the door without your online vaccination record loaded into your phone… You won’t be able to get on a plane, train or submarine…

If you think the “summer surge” is bad, just wait a few months!

AND: Those morons who putted up to Sturgis, unvaccinated, well, that’s South Dakota, and THOSE folks have shit-for-brains…

Up in Modoc, they are closing departments of the Hospital, little by little, because nobody will work there. In Humboldt, you are not far behind… Even travelers are turning down assignments in places where the population won’t take their vaccines! 100 new cases a day, and anti-vaxers are still foolish enough to repudiate the ONE THING that can help!!

Don’t do this to your county, don’t do this to your neighbors!

Just take your goddamn vaccine, and shut the fuck up, because your Jihad is making you look more and more stupid and crazy… Those stapled-together hospital rooms, out in the parking lot – they’re for you! The mass of unwashed unvaccinated, are about to be the undesirables… Just sit there in your car, the Doctor will get around to you…

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Even Alf! Vaccinated.

You can be too!

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

[edit]
If you are elderly or have comorbidities please consider getting vaxxed. If you are Vax hesitant, wear your masks and social distance. Respect

T. Laswell
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T. Laswell
2 years ago
Reply to  Local Farmer

And thats ALL anyone ever had to do! And yet the nation has become so divided we couldnt even do that:
“Look, the Dems are getting shots and wearing masks! What should we do?”

The only GQP answer nowadays? “Lets do the opposite of whatever makes sense!”

(And then they sneak off to Cancun knowing their extremely rabid misinformed constituents will keep right on giving them millions and voting them back into power.

Incredible, but sadly true.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Thank you so much for that.
Voted Best Rebuttal to the Anti Vaxers in these threads EVER !!!!!

cmon man get real
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cmon man get real
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Give it up. You are not a doctor, just a human spewing unverifiable, untested, and unapproved nonsense straight from the mouths of questionable Biden bureaucrats. . I would never listen to ill informed humans such as yourself. This statement by me is verifiable given our current Ill informed woke leaders who stated they would never take the shot if a certain party and president were still in office. All politics and power based. Game, set, match. Do no harm they say, unless we are in power then harm is the cure. Yea sure, I will certainly follow these lemmings off the cliff. Not.

And anyone who brings up compliance of the complete woke in San Francisco as a fact reason To go get a fake vaccine has got a screw loose and needs to take their antipsychotic medication. The City is a Dump, run by dumpy people who spend their days avoiding dumps on the sidewalk infected with hepatitis and gonorrhea, while this person states they are the pinnacle of woke vaccinations. Go back to bed dude, I follow real science and scientists.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago

Yes. You don’t sound a bit silly…

Or crazy…

T. Laswell
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T. Laswell
2 years ago

“..questionable Biden bureaucrats..”

And YOU do WHAT for a living again?……

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

My favorite part of your post is the reference to Taurus. We haven’t heard from him in a while. Any idea what happened? I hope he’s OK. Come to think of it, where has Trillium been? Groba? We seem to be missing a whole group of unique individuals (who certainly aren’t just one person with many aliases). Hope all are well and that each has received all the vaccinations they desire.

If you’re going to San Francisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair. Also, if you don’t want to breathe in the dust of human excrement, you should mask up.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

We don’t wear flowers in our hair, but you will find hippie beads around our necks…

Your memory is exemplary…

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

As long as you don’t smell of patchouli, lol.

I think a positive thought for your loved ones every time I see you here. Cancer sucks and I believe positive thoughts may help, and they certainly don’t hurt. Hard times for our loved ones can be tougher than if we were struggling ourselves. I hope you get good news.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

You assume alot, which tells me alot. Sit down and do the math on a 0 to 40 year old odds of dying with covid in 2020 ,now compare them to odds of dying from the flu in 2017. The answer is that easy, panic much? Crazy what panicked people do, I have to talk a person down that is panicking over nothing every week, not a good state of mind to be in.

Alberta
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Alberta
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

According to Matina Kilkenny in her story MISSING FACES: The impact of the Spanish influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 in Humboldt County, of the eleven Native Americans whose deaths are on record at the County Courthouse

Alberta
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Alberta
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Appreciated.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Who was covering flu deaths in Humboldt in 2017? Let me answer that, no one. Rest my case. 6 people didn’t die of pneumonia in a single day in 2017 in Humboldt? Nobody kept track, cause nobody cared.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

fake news media asking people to behave sheepishly… what else is new

this is just about control. Thats why they made it at that lab.

The passport scam is str8 ww2 germanesque

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Your going to have bad and more badder flu years, just a fact of life. And top it with the biggest generation to ever hit jerryatricks, and wallaaa, here we are , and everyone is panicked, for why? Got the biggest group of seniors ever and hit the biggest numbers on fatalities related to pneumonia. How does this stuff happen?

breathe
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breathe
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

at least you are a lone stay away with your confirmation bias rationales.

Jason
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Jason
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

labeling concern for the situation as “panic” makes you the fear monger

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Jason

His cavalier act is wearing thin.
Lotta fear just underneath that supposed tough guy act…

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Nail on head.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Yep tons of fear, so much that I’m not vaccinated and travel everyday, and out the country. How come I didn’t see you scare D cats at the fair?

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Fair was packed and unmasked skittish, cases gonna go through the roof,probably hit the thousands a day. Shear terror. And Labor right around the corner, we’re doomed.

In my 1911 I trust
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In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

The horse races were pretty fun man. Lots of drinking, yelling, and betting. It was a good time

In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I was the one that broke it up

In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Yep, no worries. It’s a family place, no reason for that kind of thing to happen there. Younger folks in their 20’s obviously haven’t figured out that alcohol precedes most bad decisions.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

1911,
That shows you how much I know,
I figured you cleaned house. 🤔😁

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Last man standing?

In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Haha absolutely not. I just got a few people off the ground and got the rest to stop fighting. I’m not the kind of guy to jump in and start throwing punches in someone else’s fight. If it were somewhere other than right outside the front gate of the fair, I would’ve let them have at it. There were families with young kids coming and going though, so it had to be stopped.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Respect, 1911.
It’s good to know there’s people like you out there. Good Job.
Stay Safe Out There.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Keyword BIG.
Big gulps. Big chairs. Unprecedented obesity problem. Easy pickin’s for a whole host of problems, viral infections being one.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Natural Health!

HEre is MUST watch video by a brilliant doctor on this topic:

bitchute.com/video/PRs3RxGy1pgK/

Willie Bray
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2 years ago
Reply to  bearjoo

🕯🌳If multiple deaths would have happened Lone Ranger in the 2017 they would have been reported and made news you want the death rate to be higher don’t you bud? It’s what your pinning for.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  bearjoo

You completely missed my point for the last year Willie, flu deaths had no ratings. They weren’t covered, maybe a 10 second blurp on national news once a year. Nobody cared if tens of thousands of people died of the flu in 3 month period.

T. Laswell
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T. Laswell
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

I truly hope when you or someone you love is begging for a ventilator just to breath-just to stay alive- I really hope you make sure you tell those doctors the ‘numbers’ and ‘percentages’ and ‘historical stats’ all say this is all nothing to worry about. (According to YOU).

But really, I wish this pain on no one. I only hope you have no kids or spouses.

Unjabbed Guest
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Unjabbed Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Never heard of this before either… “It’s a substance that reacts to magnets,” an official told Nikkei, adding “It could be metal.” https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20210829_09/
Pick your poison

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

That you denialists must reduce everything down to the math in an attempt to minimize the devastation of Covid is just plain pathetic.
And by the way, not funny at all.
Go tell your math story to someone burying their dead child, I’m sure you’ll brighten their day with your brilliance.

Alberta
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Alberta
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Did the deceased die “of covid”, “with covid”
Or “from covid”???

Makes a difference how death are reported.

Truth in journalism?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Bury a dead child and get back to me how important with, of, and from are.
Maybe you could ask some relatives of dead people if it was with,of or from , maybe show up at a funeral and take a consensus. Start a database because it’s so important. Hound the hospitals, tell them you’re REALLY into something.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Reality is, you can’t stop the flu because it’s air borne, sound familiar? Your not stopping covid or it’s variants. But you can put your life on hold for covid, to each their own.

Fres
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Fres
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

I did my homework as requested, that year was one of the worst for influenza. 61,000 American deaths.

How many confirmed deaths from COVID in 2020?
Over 375,000, with lockdowns, attempts at masking etc.

What the hell are you talking about?

Please stop saying stupid shit publicly.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Fres

How many people were tested for the flu in 2017? How many were required to test at place of employment? Stop the ridiculousness. We tested more people these last 2 years than we tested in the previous 100 years.

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
Reply to  Fres

He was comparing age demographics. Over 80% of the people who have died from covid were over 75. Under the age of 50 your chances of dying from covid are way less then driving or dying from overeating or smoking. One of the better comparisons I saw, was you’re far more likely to die driving over 15 miles a day then diying from covid, if you’re under the age of 50.

Bug on a Windshield
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Bug on a Windshield
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

“Target, WalMart and Winco won’t let you in the door without your online vaccination record loaded into your phone… You won’t be able to get on a plane, train or submarine…”

Now they also are forcing me to upgrade from a flip phone? But, submarines? Golly, that’s worth the price of admission alone.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago

Presumes you are Naval, rather than just staring, at your navel…

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

All the same, I heard George W and Ole Joe Camel are cousins, sounds about right, they act the same.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

So please tell us, O Wise One, what would you be doing differently?

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Shit bro, you guys made that rule when trump was President . Enjoy your trump vaccine

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

What rule?
This Trump Vaccine is the best!

Alf
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Alf
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

I’m already doing it. I got vaccinated, I stay away from as many people as possible, don’t go out partying, to bars, to any place crowded. I wear my government mandated mask. But that isn’t what I was talking about. The Demonocrats belittled at every opportunity the prior administration, yet all their bragging has done nothing accept bring about worse numbers accross the board in spite of the vaccine, the rollout of which was purposely delayed for political reasons untill after the election. Both the Federal and State governments are the most corrupt and certainly the most failure ridden in US history.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

It’s worse in the states that did not follow masking and getting the vaccine, mostly Republican ran governments. They are following the Republican agenda and get sick or worse die and you blame the democrats, lol, sick!

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

No. New Jersey and New York are number 1 and number 2 covid deaths per Capita

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

There are a lot of factors that go into death rates, to where it would take a lot of effort by proper scientists to compare states. Early outbreaks will have higher death rates than later outbreaks, due to improved treatments. Higher housing density will have higher death rates. Higher numbers of multigenerational households will have higher death rates. Higher numbers of service workers will have higher death rates. Higher numbers of immigrants will have higher death rates, due to them often being all three of the previous items. States with older populations will have higher death rates. States with higher usage of mass transit will have higher death rates. And on and on. An actual study comparing states will need to compensate for dozens of variables.

CancelLogic
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CancelLogic
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

I think the most important factor in finding truth in the #’s is in knowing the medical history of the deceased.
There’s an awful lot of obese 12yo kids these days. There’s a heck of a lot more obese 20,30,40,50 year olds as well. Then you get to the 60,70,80,90 year olds.
If we’re unwilling to discuss whether or not peoples pre-covid health plays a major role in morbidity then there is no sense in wasting time and we should just step aside and let Darwinism do its thing.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  CancelLogic

I think the answer was one the front page of the north coast journal a couple weeks back, only icu covid case patient I’ve seen a picture with a write up.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

States where governors purposely sent infected folks back to nursing homes and other care facilities will have higher death rates. Justice for the grandmas!

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

Oh really. You will find with a simple search California, Florida and Texas are the top three in COVID deaths. In a couple weeks it’s look’in like Florida is gonna take the top spot and with what’s goin on in Texas it might be hard for California to remain in second. The Republican party is mainly responsible that is truth!

I like stars
Guest
I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Florida is 21st in deaths per capita, nowhere near the top. Texas is 25th.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

You’re not very good at this.

You are looking at total infections per state . You aren’t even looking at infections per capita.
Of course california has more infections then … say.. Rhode island 😆

I am looking at deaths per capita .

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

You mean I am correct but it just doesn’t fit the Republican narrative to point out states with Republicans leadership have killed more people due to the COVID virus. How about just two states are responsible for nearly 20% of the deaths from covid and they are Florida and Texas is that better.

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Lol.

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

Looks like a ranking by population

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Sure as long as you don’t forget that the tag team of California and New York have combined for even more. Why did Cuomo and some other governors send all those infected folks to care homes? Monstrous.

Joe
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Joe
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Sounds about right
A lot of old people in Florida

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Lots of dead in Texas as well they will be in second place in a few weeks.

In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Hey man it shouldn’t be an issue. Every single one of you are my competition for resources. The more of you who clear out means less competition for my family and I. So I see some of you need mandates and medical interventions to be able to compete for resources at the same level that I do, that doesn’t seem right, except we don’t know the potential consequences of accepting said medical intervention. Could turn out to be a bad move. It’s just a bummer that many of you feel the need to mandate certain actions for me that are unnecessary, just so you feel better about the fact many of you obviously can’t compete for resources at my same level without a little help from the government. What’s up lettuce? You afraid you might not be able to walk into a store for your amendments without a little government help? Sounds like your already falling by the wayside man. What happened to the rebel spirit and fuck legal? Legalization brought to you by the same people who bring you the vaccine. So fuck one but the other is alright? I don’t trust the government and never will. I know what they did to my family all through the 80’s and 90’s, so I certainly won’t be trusting them now. You’ve gone soft and lost your rebel spirit, time to move over bud and get your permit.

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In my 1911 I trust
Guest
In my 1911 I trust
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

How’d you know he is one of my favorite authors Kym?😁

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I read a lot of hand me down
Louis L’Amour’s. The price was right. They were kinda cookie cutter Western short stories and kind of repetitive and boring, until I figured out they were a lot more intriguing and if I read them from back to front, like you moderate comments.
They became more like Mystery Western short stories.

Similarly, it was just a little harder to tell who the real bad guys were. 🤔🧐😁

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Actually, with a quick Google search you would find that Florida ranks at number 19,
Texas at number 24 and CA at number 32.

With number one being New Jersey, number two being Mississippi, number three being Main and number four being Massachusetts…

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago

Republican ran states continue to kill for a narrative!

Note: States are ranked by deaths per 100,000. The list includes ties.

1. Louisiana
Deaths per 100,000: 1.37
Daily average deaths: 63.9

2. Mississippi
Deaths per 100,000: 1.33
Daily average deaths: 39.6

3. Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 1.13
Daily average deaths: 242.1

4. Arkansas
Deaths per 100,000: 1.07
Daily average deaths: 32.1

5. Kansas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.65
Daily average deaths: 19

6. Nevada
Deaths per 100,000: 0.64
Daily average deaths: 19.9

7. South Carolina
Deaths per 100,000: 0.64
Daily average deaths: 33

8. Wyoming
Deaths per 100,000: 0.64
Daily average deaths: 3.7

9. Kentucky
Deaths per 100,000: 0.6
Daily average deaths: 27

10. Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.59
Daily average deaths: 171

11. Missouri
Deaths per 100,000: 0.58
Daily average deaths: 35.6

12. Alabama
Deaths per 100,000: 0.55
Daily average deaths: 27

13. Alaska
Deaths per 100,000: 0.51
Daily average deaths: 3.7

14. Oklahoma
Deaths per 100,000: 0.49
Daily average deaths: 19.4

15. Georgia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.45
Daily average deaths: 48

16. Tennessee
Deaths per 100,000: 0.43
Daily average deaths: 29.4

17. Montana
Deaths per 100,000: 0.39
Daily average deaths: 4.1

17. West Virginia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.38
Daily average deaths: 6.9

19. North Carolina
Deaths per 100,000: 0.36
Daily average deaths: 38.1

20. Oregon
Deaths per 100,000: 0.33
Daily average deaths: 13.7

21. Arizona
Deaths per 100,000: 0.3
Daily average deaths: 21.9

22. Idaho
Deaths per 100,000: 0.3
Daily average deaths: 5.4

23. Washington
Deaths per 100,000: 0.3
Daily average deaths: 22.7

24. Indiana
Deaths per 100,000: 0.29
Daily average deaths: 19.7

25. Delaware
Deaths per 100,000: 0.26
Daily average deaths: 2.6

26. Illinois
Deaths per 100,000: 0.23
Daily average deaths: 29.1

27. New Mexico
Deaths per 100,000: 0.23
Daily average deaths: 4.9

28. Utah
Deaths per 100,000: 0.23
Daily average deaths: 7.4

29. California
Deaths per 100,000: 0.21
Daily average deaths: 82.1

izzy
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2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

In 2018 (last year numbers available) CDC data shows 723.6 annual deaths per 100,000 in the USA.
The highest number on the list shown here is Louisiana at 1.37 per 100,000.
Of course, death is sad for those closely involved, but the toll from covid, even with all the questions about data accuracy and tabulation procedures, is a very tiny fraction of what happens every year in the normal process of living and dying. Does the whole world need to be turned upside down in response?

Legallettuce
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2 years ago
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This is just COVID19 deaths as of August 23, 2021 proving the Republican lead narrative is killing people. Sacrificing Republican sheep for your Freedoms should be their 2022 slogan.

Thirdeye
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2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Could you please provide a link to your source?

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I like stars
2 years ago
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I will request the same. The numbers LL provided aren’t even close to the ones I found and linked to. Without a source they carry zero weight.

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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

LL – Your list is for one week only. That week is a recent one, but it is still only one week.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
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Only one week, but the most relevant one for figuring out what’s going on with the Delta variant.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Yes, it is only for one week but since July the ranking has been consistent week after week. Republicans are killing citizens to support their narrative!!

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
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NY and NJ jumped out into the lead from first-wave deaths per capita and it’s been eroding ever since. Mississippi and Alabama are closing in fast.

Guests
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2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Bullshit straight up nice try Biden sucks

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
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He should at the very least share the coke

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
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Don Jr. is snorting it all. He doesn’t share.

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I like stars
2 years ago
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Is that why Hunter is left to smoke parmesan cheese from his bulby pipe?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/hunter-biden-smoked-parmesan-cheese-when-addicted-to-cocaine-2021-4%3famp

Facts verified by the cheese smoker himself carry a bit more weight than an unsupported allegation from an internet rando.

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2 years ago
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+Hunter doesnt spend his time running scams on charities and telling people how to think.

But if we are going to compare hard drug use among parties? You REALLY want to go there?
Might want to look up arrest/conviction rates between Dems and Repubs.

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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
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Luckily Hunter Biden usually ends up smoking Parmesan cheese..

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

Hopefully he enjoys some spaghetti with that.

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namer
2 years ago
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Best comment of the day.

spewydog
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spewydog
2 years ago
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Biden Sucks? They All Suck!!

FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago
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I wouldn’t agree with everything this administration or the previous administration has done on the covid front, but the biggest difference was unavoidable. It’s biology. The Delta variant is 2x-3x more contagious than previous strains, incubates in about half the time and symptoms are more severe on average for those that get ill. So unfortunately the current administration and citizens the world over are dealing with a whole different animal (Literally) than the other waves of infection we’ve experienced. People don’t seem to get that. This variant is a nastier, meaner, critter than the original. With 2x-3x more contagion and half the incubation time, things are likely to be 2x-3x worse for the half of population that is still unvaccinated. Vaccinated people can still spread the virus too, so unlike the first waves with lockdowns, social distancing and masks, this one came on when things were opening up and there were none of those mitigations in place. Asymptomatic people both vaxxed and unvaxxed were mixing everywhere with those who are still vulnerable to a more contagious variant, even if they didn’t know or believe it themselves.

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2 years ago
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Great comment, and what I’ve been saying all along, too (but a lot of people don’t seem to want to hear logical thinking these days). My question now is, what treatments are in place once someone goes into the hospitals in Humboldt for Covid? When will the use of monoclonal antibodies or other effective measures become standard? We need to stop politicizing our health care options and just do whatever works best for the health of the people.

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2 years ago
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You are being too rational for these comments. I saw a sign in front of the Hum court house that said
“Covid is political not scientific”. What the hell are these people smoking. What does that mean. A virus is a virus, it doesn’t care if you are R or D or I or P. Like I said before get Covid or get the shot and STFU. I mean this dithering over everything is BS.

I agree with this comment, what are we doing to help the suffering? What are we doing to help the needy?

Doesn’t matter what your politics are when you get sick, what matters is how we can ease the suffering.

Think. Think. Think.

If you call yourself a Christian, be more Christian. I know Muslims that are more Christian than Christians.

All that matters, imo, is what we do for others and most people are looking out for themselves. I try to live by these standards, but I am not perfect. But think of what you have done today for your fellow man. In the end that is all that matters.

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2 years ago
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It appears that VitC, Zinc and Vit D are not part of Hospital protocol when admitted for Covid-19…
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wCf2X0kL90&t=965s

T. Laswell
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2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

You do get that this is a GLOBAL Pandemic right? It wasnt all about the US or your ‘Dear Leader’. Trump did everything wrong from the start, and many people are dead because of it.
But go ahead and blame Biden now right? Sure. Makes sense….?

When your actual reasoning returns, if ever, get back to us. Might want to give some actual SOURCES for your BS Fox news claims too.
Meanwhile, keep making up those names for half the nation and your neighbors. (just like donny did! hahah!) That will really ‘show them libs!’

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2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Everytime you use the childish word “demoncrat” you show how ignorant you are. Covid doesn’t give af who you voted for. When you eventually get it please stay home and cure yourself. Why take up a bed that now even children are needing. Its so tiring to read all of your conspiracy bs!

Chris
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2 years ago
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Oh Alfie, your politics just kill me 😂
If Biden rose up to Heaven you’d say he did it from the Southern Hemisphere and had gone to hell instead.

Alf
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2 years ago
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It’s not for me to judge whether he ends up in heaven or hell. However, it is for me to judge whether or not I think he’s doing right by the country. I believe he is not. I believe he hasn’t done a single thing that has improved the country, but has done plenty to make it worse. That is the definition of total failure, F so to speak. Even if, for the rest of his term, he made far less idiot mistakes, the damage has been done and without serious reversal would still be an F.

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2 years ago
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I’ve mostly seen biden try to do nice things, then republicans be why we can’t have nice things.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

I’ve got nice things. I went out and earned them.

None of them were given to me by Democrats or Republicans.

Definitely don’t expect a benevolent government to provide them for me.

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namer
2 years ago
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Is bombing Syria and Somalia the mostly nice things?

Dave Kirby
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Dave Kirby
2 years ago
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If Biden does nothing else his biggest achievement will always be that he ousted a dangerous jackass before he got any more entrenched. Another four years of the Donald and we’ed have to use bayonets to get him to leave.

T. Laswell
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2 years ago
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A quick search on JUST Domestic Policy alone reveals:

Biden signed legislation that provided Congressional Gold Medal to the Harlem Hellfighters, the Black soldiers who served in World War 1

Biden signed a law expanding access for veterans to therapy dogs and service dogs

Biden cancelled student loan debt for more than 300,000 Americans with severe disabilities (over $5.8 billion worth of debt)

Biden increased food stamp benefits by 25% to directly help needy families

Biden canceled $55.6 million in student debt for students of for-profit schools

Biden has the narrowest pay gap between women and men in the White House of any president

The Biden administration released rules that protect patients from unexpected medical bills.

Attorney General Merrick Garland ordered a halt on federal death penalty executions.

Biden signed the American Rescue Plan (aka COVID-19 Stimulus) providing $1.9 trillion of relief to the American economy

Biden signed an executive order to make the Department of Justice work on reducing the use of “ghost guns”

Biden signed an executive order expanding access to legal representation for the poor.

Biden (and Vice President Kamala Harris) released their 2021 tax returns, after Trump refused to release his for his entire four-year term.

Biden ordered the Department of Justice to produce a rule clarifying when a device marketed as a gun brace turns a pistol effectively into a short-barreled rifle

Biden told the Department of Justice to produce model “red flag” legislation for all 50 states so that they could enact such laws against gun violence

Biden increased the minimum wage for thousands of federal contractors to $15/hr
Stimulus payments from the American Rescue Plan were sent via direct deposit just 24 hours after the plan was signed into law
Biden directed $2.5 billion in funding to specifically address America’s mental illness and addiction crisis
American Rescue Plan extended a 15% increase to SNAP funding, helping children who qualify for free lunch
The American Rescue Plan restores funding to veterans programs, including programs to assist veterans’ mental health, that had been cut under Trump
The American Rescue Plan adds boosted funding to the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), providing new options for people who need health insurance and lowering costs for people already insured.
American Rescue Plan provides money to the airline industry, preventing tens of thousands of aviation jobs who will no longer be furloughed
Socially disadvantaged (including Black, Latino, Asian-American, and Native American) farmers will get $4 billion from the American Rescue Plan in debt relief, while another $1 billion will create a racial equity commission.
Biden will be nominating three Democrats to the USPS board of governors, which will lead to the removal of Postmaster Louis DeJoy.
Biden issued an executive order that will make American supply chains less reliant on foreign companies.
Biden revoked a Trump executive order mandating stricter work rules on people seeking welfare help.
Biden restored labor rights to workers at the Department of Defense.
Biden got rid of a Trump order that used COVID as an excuse for deregulation.
Biden undid a Trump-era mandate that said federal buildings had to be constructed in classical style.
Biden revoked a Trump order that suspended federal funds from going to purported “anarchist jurisdictions.”
Biden got rid of conservative officials stashed at the Voice of America and other broadcasting-related entities of the government.
Biden issued an executive order requiring political appointees to take an ethics pledge.
Biden signed pension relief, keeping more than 100 pension plans solvent and providing retirement benefits to millions.

Thats JUST Domestic Policy. BTW, thats about 100 times what trump ‘accomplished’ by the same point. (Hard to sign stuff when you cant put your cellphone down).

See how listening to Hannity all day ROTS your brain?

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lol
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lol
2 years ago
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Why did you think that? It was never their position that they had all the answers. Daily new cases peaked around January 2020.

Are you saying trump would be handling the delta variant better? How is the administration reasonable for our local numbers, especially considering the overlap between trump voters and the unvaccinated?

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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
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Because the Big Guy is in charge now?

Well, kinda… “They” told him which reporters to take questions from. And Afghanistan is the generals’ fault.

Who is “They” short-timer…

Errrr! Mr. President?

spewydog
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spewydog
2 years ago

?

Afghanistan is Afghanistan’s fault. Not called the “Graveyard of Empires” for no reason. No win situation. Read about Vietnam, same thing happened just took a little longer.

Nobody thought it would fall in 2 weeks. They all knew it would fall. Trump said we were pulling out. America First. May 1st deadline. Would have been worse if we had followed that. Trumpites feel that if you say anything enough times people will believe it, no matter how false it is. Truth is truth, it is not subjective. IMHO.

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2 years ago
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Dude, Trump’s treaty had stipulations the Taliban had to follow to make it binding. Biden pulled out before he even got our citizens, our allies citizens or the Afghan that have helped us out. Not to mention the 200 plus billion dollars worth of armerments we left behind for the Taliban. Did you see the recreation of the iconic flag planting picture taken in the Pacific Islands during World War II? With the Taliban dressed in our full battle rattle worth tens of thousands of dollars. Yes we should have left the middle East 15 years ago, but not in this way.

Spewydog
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Spewydog
2 years ago

Did the same thing in Vietnam, left tons of material. The Vietnamese used a bunch of it to kick China’s ass when they invaded and then we had the boat people for the folks we didn’t help before pulling out. Trump would have done the same as Biden if he was reelected. ‘Merica first.
We are destined to repeat history.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago

🕯🌳Trump wanted to pull out by May now what kind of mess would that have been. Biden had to negotiate for the extra time. Plus all those people over there knew we were leaving since the first of the year. Why did they stay?🖖🖖

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Country Bumpkin
2 years ago
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There is a large segment of POC who are vaccine hesitant. I don’t know the exact stats but possibly more than the touted trumpster monsters who people like to blame as the sole drivers of new variants and infections.

namer
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namer
2 years ago

The DNC newsfeed refuses to mention it, so it didn’t happen.

It’s somewhat surprising they haven’t tried upping the offer for the needle, though.

Why not go hucklybuck and offer a limited amount of two (2) tacos per injectee, wrapped in Kente cloth paper?

Is Snoop Dogg/Lion too busy with corn syrup beer?

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago

All the variants that we know of presently were found before the vaccines were even available to the public.

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2 years ago
Reply to  lol

LOL, of course you’re right. Countries around the world are struggling with this new virus regardless of what political ideology runs the country. I think the majority of people are just trying to point out the hypocrisy. During the Trump administration, every negative thing that happened was directly Trump’s fault, because it was “Trump’s America” but now that Biden is President, “they” deflect all responsibility to everything but Biden. If you cannot see this hypocrisy in our news you must be blind. The exact same thing happened between the Bush and Obama Administrations. The negative news rhetoric during the Bush Administration is what convinced me to vote for Barack Obama, but after the first 2 years of him doing the exact same thing as Bush, the hypocrisy from mainstream media became very apparent to me..

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago

Anonymous….Exactly…..

spewydog
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spewydog
2 years ago

Big raspberry to you. They all suck.

derp
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derp
2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

oh ALF you remind me of my old dog who barks at shadows

MelisssA
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2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

Completely agree. Fully vaccinated? Go ahead, take off your mask and gather again indoors. Play sports, go back to school in person, no distance learning options given now, either (thank you California). The unmasked, non-careful vaccinated folks have largely contributed to this most recent spread.

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I like stars
2 years ago
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You can enroll your kids in school online if you wish.

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
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@melisssA
Wow! Are you serious? The state told the vaccinated that they didn’t need masks anymore because apparently they didn’t know that vaccinated people still catch and spread covid. Next thing we know there is this massive surge and the state is like whoops! everyone mask up again. It is obvious why we are having this surge because the vaccinated were unknowingly spreading covid.

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
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@kym First of all I never blamed the vaccinated people for anything. I blamed the state for telling vaccinated people that they didn’t need masks anymore. To point out that this is what lead to us having this wave immediately after is pointing out the obvious in my opinion, and is not ,”absurd “. Giving an opinion on why this wave is happening doesn’t have to involve blaming people. Have you asked any doctors their opinions about why this wave is happening? I have and they said it is a combination of the delta variant being more transmissable and the mask order with the vaccinated people thinking they couldn’t spread or catch covid. Having said that, because the state government order was ridiculously irresponsible they are to blame in my opinion.
Secondly, how can you make a claim that the vaccinated catch and spread it less? Is that claim backed up by any epidemiologist or doctors? My doctor told me to stay home and isolate after being exposed to people who had a confirmed case of covid. He told me the recommendation that the doctors are following is to have people come in for testing only if showing symptoms.
I believe it is fair to assume that the asymptomatic are bigger spreaders, be they vaccinated or not, because they don’t stay home while they are contagious.
I am interested in the “simple math,” that leads you to believe that the unvaccinated are the ones who ,”the vast majority of the spread came from.” If you can explain I am very interested to discuss civily. None of my friends or family who are hesitant about this vaccine are antimaskers or antivaxxers so it would be nice if both sides could discuss this complicated issue without resorting to simple stereotypes.
Thank you kym and I look forward to your response.

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2 years ago
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@kym
Are you interested in discussing the issue without acting like we need to be blaming and insulting each other? The first example you put up of me insulting a commenter was deleted by me before it ever was up and was in response to someone insulting me who didn’t delete his comment and wasn’t edited or deleted by you. The only difference I see is that you agree with him over me. This doesn’t have to be another political issue that puts people against each other. Having mature and rational discussions with people with different ideas than yours is healthy. Rephrasing and misrepresenting other people’s comments along with insulting their opinions as “absurd,” is not healthy. I’ve tried asking you questions before when you have replied to my comments with insults and misrepresenting my comment. You don’t answer or try to have a healthy discussion, why?
By the way, to be clear, nobody thinks that unvaccinated people don’t spread COVID. That isn’t an assertion anybody is making, as you were implying in your reply.
My wife is a mathematician who I met 18 years ago in calculus based physics for scientists and engineers class and neither of us see this as “simple math”.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

@kym
I never implied even a tiny bit less,” very very very very strongly that the unvaccinated have nothing to do with the surge”. That is another misrepresentation of my views coming from you. I never even for one second entertained the idea. I don’t believe that nor have I ever said it or implied it. I’m sorry that you don’t take me seriously in my attempt at discussion with you. How’s this, if you can’t reply to my comments without misrepresenting my opinions and words and you can’t take my attempts at civil discussion seriously, why bother replying at all? If I haven’t broken a rule, you replying with insults and misrepresentations doesn’t have any benefit in my opinion.

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2 years ago
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@kym
Thank you for providing links backing up your assertion that the unvaccinated spread covid more. They are opinion papers backed up by some data and so are obviously inconclusive but you might be correct in your assertion. It is definitely not an absurd assertion on your part. My opinion obviously doesn’t hold as much water as any doctors. However, it makes sense to me that the asymptomatic spread covid the most and that there are a lot more vaccinated people who are asymptomatic than unvaccinated asymptomatic. The unvaccinated people in my circle of friends and family kept wearing masks during the time period that the vaccinated people in my circle stopped wearing masks. I don’t think we disagree that infected individuals spread covid more when they don’t wear masks around others. Both opinions are based on rational thought and I don’t dismiss yours as absurd. I see your opinion as valid. I have nothing against you or anyone who chooses to be vaccinated. I am asking that you not be insulting and that you quit misrepresenting my words and opinions. Thank you for the discourse.

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

@kym
Following your path of logic to why you think I was implying that the “unvaccinated have nothing to do with surge”, would lead to you thinking that the vaccinated have nothing to do with the surge. I know that you are far too intelligent to believe that. Have I ever given you reason to not give me the same benefit of the doubt? Why would you think I am incapable of understanding that unvaccinated people spread the virus? Of course they have been spreading it ever since the first person to person spread, come on.

Guest
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

What changed right before the increase in cases?

Did the unvaccinated change something they were doing?

Or, did the vaccinated change something they were doing?

Do we blame Delta?

The overall unmasking?

Your Forbes link indicates a 49%
reduction in infection from Delta after a two dose Vaccination.
Half of what was promised.

J&J is anyone’s guess, but they aren’t bragging.

It must be pretty bad.

And as far as your Forbes link for decreased tendency to spread infection by the vaxxed, Under “What We Don’t Know”, a caveat…

They say “That needs further study”, and reference a Barnstable County study which refutes the claim that the vaxxed are less infectious.

So as far as being less infectious, according to your Forbes link,
“What We Don’t Know”, is if that’s for sure, for sure.

As far as suggesting that “Local Farmer” was implying that the “unvaccinated have nothing to do with the surge”, and it being the message he was trying to convey, that isn’t even reasonable.

How would it be hard to take seriously the assertion,

“Nobody thinks the unvaccinated don’t spread Covid19″.

Let me clean up that double negative to make it easier for everyone to understand.

Everybody thinks that the unvaccinated do spread COVID.

I’d say that is true.

That’s a given.

I also believe that Local Farmer is correct in his assertion that The state telling vaccinated people that they didn’t need masks anymore”, was responsible for untold problems.

I also think that is obvious, and my evidence for that being such an obvious mistake is the fact that they have corrected that mistake by reversing the decision, however quickly.

That was a huge mistake. The policy of discontinuing a mask requirement for the vaccinated was absurd, especially as a carrot or reward for vaccination.

Beyond dumb.

It led to the vaccinated changing their mask behaviour while the unvaccinated mask behaviour was to remain the same.

Misleading the vaccinated into believing they could not become infected, or spread infection, also contributed to a false sense of security, which most likely resulted in increased infections.

All considering, it is not at all unreasonable, to assert, or surmise and conclude, that the cessation of mask wearing requirements for the vaccinated, combined with the false assurances that the vaccinated were led to believe, that they could neither catch nor spread Covid19 in any significant way, that it created a perfect storm for an increase in cases, and that the vaccinated’s contribution to that increase, albeit unbeknownst, was in a much more significant way than the increased contribution from
the unvaccinated, whose behaviour was not so changed.

And no that doesn’t mean I am trying to implicate the vaccinated, or vindicate the unvaccinated.

The unvaccinated don’t blame and dehumanize the vaccinated.
It’s the vaccinated that blame and dehumanize the
unvaccinated.

You have very, very,very, very, strongly, deflected and reframed, and shifted the focus from the discussion as it pertained to the unvaccinated, to it being all about the unvaccinated, and how everything is their fault.

This division thing is no good.

That’s the part I see as being simple math.

And it’s the division that’s multiplying.

And that it’s a minus, not a plus.

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
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Thank you Guest. Well said.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Is it though? The data and Professor luc montagnier says otherwise. As the Delta emerged way back in Dec of 2020 it’s to the laymen’s eye (and as warned by luck montagnier) the vaccination campaign appears to have triggered “the surge.”

I notice when his work is brought forth it’s crickets from the vax pack.

R David Franceschi
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R David Franceschi
2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

What is a CASE??? Doesn’t tell me SHIT!!!

Tristan
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Tristan
2 years ago
Reply to  Alf

“Well I can make a bad point!” And you have! Yea there is a vaccine now. Yes the delta variant is killing way more people of all ages. Out of 71 deaths in humboldt the only vaccinated person to die had 30% lung capacity from a terrible preexisting and that article is available on LoCo. Del Norte has 40% fully vaxxed rate and they’re dying. Look at New England, look at the South. Look at the vaxxed and not vaxxed. It’s very simple. Sorry

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago

We’ll probably see a lot more updates like this, since deaths lag behind cases, and we’re just now seeing the start of the results of the case spike…

Me
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Me
2 years ago
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The case spike was at the end of June,
mr. Epidemiologist man

Bushytails
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2 years ago
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Please refer to the graph included in the press release, and that it often takes a month or more from infection to death, while people get progressively sicker, get hospitalized, be given multiple treatments without success, eventually get sedated and put on a ventilator, and then die without ever seeing their family.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Hospitals for illness are death traps.. Injury and diagnostics not so much.. but illness, not so muchm just curious how much money the hospital gets when some either is admitted or dies with or from or because of covid???

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
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We’re still climbing the spike. Read the graph. Given the lag between new cases and mortality, we could be seeing deaths close to 3x what we’re seeing now a few weeks down the road.

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Oh god are you guys going to start chanting “ 2 more weeks “ again?

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

If we run out of hospital capacity, further lockdowns are likely.

Solution: Don’t make us run out of hospital capacity.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Exercise and eat right your whole life, and simple treatments will work just fine.

Take of the temple or suffer from the misfortune of dealing with a for profit medical system.

“Eat food, not too much, mostly plants”

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago

There’s plenty of very healthy people who have succumbed to covid.
It may be mostly people w comorbidities dying but what you say is NOT any type of guarantee against serious illness or death from covid.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Vaccination is not guaranteed either. There are no guarantees (except for the following).

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Only 5% of covid deaths are attributed to people with no comorbidities. The average comorbidities in people who died with covid is 4. Someone dies every 30 seconds in our country from cardiovascular disease. Every 40 seconds from stroke. Perspective matters.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Ah yes, do a 3.5 TRILLION dollar money grab and spend ZERO on Hospital capacity or updating facilities or paying decent wages to nurses, forget proper housing, and then screech all about a pandemic while Gavin and Nancy live the elite life mask less and partying and collecting lobbyist $$$$. Of course, kiddies go to special schools and camps where the pee on rules do not apply.

And the blind see no evil, hear no evil, and speak fondly of these creatians.
I’ve watched Brothers turn against their sisters, what’s wrong with you people? Your fear fills the air and you’re everyone for themselves thinking is a sickness worse than Covid will ever be.
Biden just called down the wrath of much of the world on this country… wake the F up.

MelisssA
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MelisssA
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Yep

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

HotCoffee 👍

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

How do you know zero was spent on increasing capacity? Or even salaries. Some sort of facts from some sort of authority might be nice.

namer
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namer
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Remind us of the magic number.

“None of the good guy heroes may leave their house if x amount of people are in St Joe’s.”

Cannot remember if no one can dine in at fast food when four (4) monsters are in bed, or is it (gasp) fourteen (14) monsters?

are you intentionally being dishonest?
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are you intentionally being dishonest?
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

Having to repeatedly point out that deaths lag case does not amount to “chanting”.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

Some of us know how to read graphs and observe trends. You evidently don’t.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

How about that obesity trend?

Suicide from a depressing outlook crammed into every orifice.

How about the poverty trend?

How about that homelessness trend.

How about that declining economic outlook trend?

How about that WOKE trend?

How about the purchasing power decline?

There’s plenty of healthy people who don’t care what strangers, with no real perspective on all the other problems we face, say about our responsibility.

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago

God help us all, to get through this.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  seabreeze

Amen!

Ron
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Ron
2 years ago

I had 2 maderna shots almost 6 months ago. So it says I should have had another after 28 days?

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Ron

If you are an immunocompromised individual, as the press release says, then yes, you should get a third one now. The CDC is recommending this because immunocompromised individuals have less immune response to the vaccines and the effectiveness wanes faster.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Or you could say, “ask you doctor, because I am just an anonymous commenter with an agenda, not a health care provider.”

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Ron

Minimum of 28 days after, not maximum, is my understanding.

What they aren’t telling anyone is what that maximum time frame is until you
get your third dose.

The vaccine companies have been saying it for almost 3 months.

White House today was talking boosters with Fauci about every 5 months.

That would mean some boosters are long overdue. Fauci has been dragging his feet. Why?

namer
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namer
2 years ago
Reply to  Ron

This is not a conversation that should be happening here.

Tami
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Tami
2 years ago

I’m hearing we have to pay for testing or have a doctors appointment is that true?

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Tami

No.

Alberta
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Alberta
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,
Can you report on the 2020 CARES Act funding recieved by Humboldt/Mendocino (your reader subscriber area) hospitals, hospital administrators and Boards for each covid test administered, covid patient admitted, ICU equipment (including ventilators) ?

How much tax payer funded money is going in support of Covid health costs, including Medicare.

Thank you,
Alberta

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

According to the time standard medical providers in Humboldt County have received 39.5 million dollars from the cares Act.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago

So what are you contending? That there’s a mysterious unprecedented spike in non-COVID ventilator cases that are being falsely counted as COVID cases for financial reasons?

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

I think it’s more like, “They got $40 million, why the lack of preparedness?

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

“Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators.” Or, alternatively, that statement could be interpreted as COVID patients being unnecessarily put on ventilators for financial reasons. Either way, it’s bunk.

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

I’m not contending anyting, I didn’t write the f****** article. Just like I’m not implying anything when I post the percentages based on Humboldt County covid dashboard website, the numbers speak for themselves.. But it seems a growing number of people think the percentages are irrelevant and the numbers are misinformation. Like math is some kind of voodoo black magic… Maybe Common Core generation kids?
Sorry but if somebody tells me I have a 99.996% percent chance of winning the lottery if I play, versus a 99.9996% chance of winning the lottery if I just allow them to stick me with some experimental mRNA vaccine that has never been tested in humans up until this point… Well guess what I’m going to choose…

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago

Oh wow, if a hospital provides more-involved services using more staff and more equipment, they get paid more?! THAT’S NOT OK! They should get paid exactly the same amount whether they’re putting a splint on a broken finger or performing a heart-lung transplant!

Craig
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Craig
2 years ago

Looks like they are still using the skewed graph, where many non vaccinated individuals are required to be tested, and testing for vaccinated individuals are voluntary.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

You can tell yourself comforting lies all you want, but reality bites.

Craig
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Craig
2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

As far as I’m concerned, non vaccinated covid deaths make the score board, but vaccine related deaths get pushed onto another diagnosis score board, making the vaccine agenda look good.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

Confirmation bias is a real bitch.

I suspect you have zero verifiable evidence to support your claim.

Further, seriously doubt you have even the slightest clue how derogatory and insulting a claim that is to the people in the healthcare professions, especially considering the deep sense of dedication & purpose many of them have for being in the professions.

Just another conspiracy delusion stumping for any anyone that wants the US to falter.

Craig
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2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Your putting all of the individuals in the medical community on a high pedestal is admirable, but naive.
They are still human to a fault, and many are blinded by the vaccine agenda, and many do not wish to speak up for fear of being labeled as outside of the agenda.

Years from now, the truth will out, but now the vaccine bandwagon is rolling at full steam.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

Nice diversion.

Sure, to err is human.
Of course there’s SOME bad players, charlatans, murderers, etc in the med community…like everywhere else.

A general statement is not implied to be so naive that EVERY single individual will fit the stated form.
Splitting hairs.

Your conspiracy delusion would require ALL medical management, down to RNs and private docs to all be in cahoots.
Garbage.

The idea that the worldwide medical community could pull off such a wide ranging conspiracy is massively untenable.
And to do it across >190 countries, many of which are fierce enemies, and that all those countries would coordinate and use similar tactics and strategies (bcuz med science doesnt change when you cross the border)… No.
BS

The Hanford Project was kept secret for just over 3yrs in the mid40s without phone cameras and the internet…that had just over 500k people involved…all sworn to Top Secrecy.

Your conspiracy model requires 10s of millions in medical profession to agree.
Their agreement is to follow the science not the boogeyman you profess.

Do you have ANY evidence from ANY verifiable & credible sources??
From anywhere where the people proffering the data analysis have any clue how to actually analyze the stats/data?
Hopefully from a source who passed college level calculus.

Come on Craig…try answering the question and save the flimsy curveballs for your avg idiot.

If you’re such an expert how do you propose to eliminate and/or eradicate covid?

Name 1 other single method, besides vaccination, that has ever eradicated a virus from the human population…
I dare you.

Try talking with someone who survived polio.

Cataclysmic earth movements and asteroid strikes don’t count.

The “vaccine agenda” is to relieve humanity of the debulitating burdens of viral diseases.

Craig
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Craig
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

I referred to “many” not “all” of the medical community being in lock step with each other on achieving the vaccine agenda, but individuals like yourself keep trying to drown out others like my myself that are saying that the vaccine is not right for us, and your ability to not realize that the vaccine is not the one and only solution.

As time goes on, cracks are starting to appear in side of the vaccine band wagon.

“Previous Covid Prevents Delta Infection Better Than Pfizer Shot”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-27/previous-covid-prevents-delta-infection-better-than-pfizer-shot

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

My main point is that to pull off the scope of what you claim would essentially require ALL or Almost ALL of medical MANAGEMENT to adhere.
It’s an absurdly huge number of people. And the level of planning required would be the greatest attempt ever considered.

Do you have ANY EVIDENCE?

OR is it all just parroted disinformation from youtube or parroted junk with no origin source?

It’s the 1st vaccine EVER against ANY coronvirus.

You think the Polio vaccines given today are the same formulations originally developed?

The only other option to contain the spread of a virus are mechanical.

Distancing, upgrading HVAC, using the proper mask or filtration for the exposure risk, sanitation, sterilization, etc.

See NIOSH if you think for a second that the proper mask or filtration doesn’t work.
The proper medium properly applied can provide extraordinarily high “particulate” filtration level.

While the study refernced in the link you provide may be spot on it is not THE solution.
Far from it.

Consider the dynamics more deeply.

In that the “get infected to obtain resistance” method requires 10-1000x the amount of people who have already been infected to all get infected in a time period of somewhere between <4–<12months (there is no dependable avg immunity time period figure "yet" to apply on a population scale).

We have already seen the vast majority of hospitals reach total overwhelm emergency crisis status 1-4 times now with <12% of US pop tested positive.

If hospitals reach the banshee screaming level of cases inundating the ER, the death rate per positive case rate will skyrocket as a mass # of people do not get treated.

+ the 15-20% incidence of "long" covid in hospitalized cases.

Plus, many standard medical issues will then go untreated also.

Don't trip and hurt yourself or get into a car accident.

That type of scenario is a horrific nightmare that no one could ignore should it occur.

This is exactly the worse case scenario from a medical perspective. And what the system is designed to prevent.

I thank anything and everything involved to ensure you and others, with a severe lack of scientific awareness and time process dynamics, that you are not in a decision making position that directly affects me or my friends & family.

Please forgive him, Craig understands not what he asks for.

Being wrong is OK…requires recognition though.
You need an "Aha" moment!!

Craig
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Craig
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

“Please forgive him, Craig understands not what he asks for.”

“Being wrong is OK…requires recognition though.”
“You need an “Aha” moment!!”

Seriously?…….fear monger much?

If anyone is not feeling very confident in their body’s immune system, then by all means, they can go ahead and get the “jab”

My confidence in my immune system is very high, especially after feeling physically great for the last 18 months. Someone else can have my covid vaccine.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

youtu.be/4FHBFsdqdw4

If you listen closely, they don’t make any bones about it.

Craig
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Craig
2 years ago

I don’t think many in the medical community fit in this category, but many are thinking that their efforts in trying to save the world with a ” one size fits all vaccine” are being blinded with “good intentions”

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

Many people don’t make policy, Craig, most just following the instructions handed down by experts.

You want a solid conversation between people who read the fine print?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tWUQ7qBrF7EZ/

Craig
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Craig
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

I can say that more non vaccinated individuals are being required to be tested than vaccinated individuals. It still makes for skewed numbers.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

If that were true, it still wouldn’t affect hospitalizations or deaths (you still get sick or die even if you never get tested), both of which show being vaccinated is a very good idea.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

Evidence Craig?

Or just saying whatever you can?

Who’s forcing testing?
What agency?

Where?

How is it forced?

Craig
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Craig
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Your being out of touch is showing………. to state workers: get vaccinated or face a constant battery of weekly tests

“Newsom Implements New Testing, Vaccine Mandate
New Rule will effect thousands on North Coast, but full impact unclear”

https://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/newsom-implements-new-testing-vaccine-mandate/Content?oid=21104553

“COVID: State employees, health care workers must be vaccinated or tested weekly, California announces ”

https://www.times-standard.com/2021/07/26/covid-state-employees-health-care-workers-must-be-vaccinated-or-tested-weekly-california-announces/

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Does your position rely on the slight difference in meaning between the words force and coerce?

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

That is only about 135 people, so yes.

Probably something like 1-3% of the county population is asked to be tested regardless of the presence of symptoms regularly

Willie Bray
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2 years ago

🕯🌳Prayers and condolences to all the families and friends of those who have past away in this pandemic. 🕊🕊

Sea bear
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Sea bear
2 years ago

RIP , this is sad news, my condolences. Wear your masks , social distance. Be smart about the Covid is hard on people even if it doesn’t kill you, long haul symptoms stay on ya for a long time in many cases.

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago

“Starting Monday, Aug. 30, all three vaccines including Moderna will be offered on Mondays by appointment at the Public Health Main Clinic located at 529 I St. in Eureka.”

What could possibly go wrong? And if you believe the “Only in Spain” narrative I have a bridge to sell you.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/japan-suspends-1-63m-doses-of-moderna-over-contamination/ar-AANKOVD

https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/08/27/why-moderna-stock-is-sliding-today/?source=eptyholnk0000202&utm_source=yahoo-host&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article

Maybe some day when they put a package insert in with the “vaccine” that isn’t blank I will consider taking the jab. Until then . . .

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

That’s got to be the worst vaccine name I’ve ever heard. Who came up with that garble of marbles ?

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

Now that may be the one thing I agree with you on.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

You mean that’s not a Credit Union?

The Comirnity Credit Union?

Sound about right.

That would be right up there with Vocality.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

COMI RNA TY

comi rna thank you.

Playing with words.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

https://www.bitchute.com/video/g2Jxaa5qsjIj/

Builds the bridge between health and responsibilities

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

I respectfully submit that I was referring to the Moderna jab. And by the way, the Phiser jab albeit similar is not shown. Only the substitute Comorbidity uh er Comirnaty. 😉

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

It’s NOT a substitute.
Comirnaty is the common market name for the Pfizer/BioNTech mRna based vaccine.

Same same same.

Understand?

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Non Fiction:

No I do NOT understand.

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

The questions I have are in that tweet. Primarily – That Comirnaty is not available for three years yet it is the one approved? Semantics or legaleeze? Meanwhile, where does that leave the rest of the jabs? What about all the people that have them swimming around in their bloodstream? All I know for certain is that here is ZERO liability with any of the jabs. Some indicate that IF a person experiences adverse effects the ins. will not pay hospital/doctor bills because it is NOT approved. I can’t verify that but it makes one wonder.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Regulatory Capture.

These people know how to ride the line between legal and illegal.

Who is going to prosevite the FDA?

There has been a few that have said this is potentially an ILLEGAL approval.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/g2Jxaa5qsjIj/

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Kym,
Yes, you are both saying the FDA approved “Comirnaty”, and the “Pfizer BioNtech”, are identical.

“Non brand name” versus “brand name”

The brand name, “Comirnaty” is not allowed to be used under an EAU.

What he is trying to say, is not only that the FDA approved “Comirnaty.”
( It’s the same)

But what he is also trying to say is that the FDA approval will not be in force in the the USA until 2024, because the EUA may have been extended or at least not superceded, and is still in force until 2024. So technically until 2024, all that will be available will be the EUA covered jab, not the FDA covered jab, even though they are one and the same.
It’s all about the liability protection granted by the EUA, and apparently also maybe extended until testing can be concluded, and that now doesn’t expire until 2024.

So technically, the FDA approval makes not one iota of difference, until 2024.

It’s all hype. Clearly not everyone understands this and it is creating more confusion.

If it is true, it’s definitely misleading.

I’m not confirming this, but it sounds right.

Or else the Moderna and the J&J Jabs would have got bumped from the EUA, because there would now be an alternate fully FDA Approved Treatment.

But if technically there is not an alternate fully FDA approved treatment, then the Moderna and J&J Jabs
Can still be pushed.

And that is what’s happening.

Not sure if the Comirnity labeled jab will be available in the
USA before 2024.

It’s the same formulation, but technically, Pfizer won’t be burdened by any additional liabilities that would normally come with FDA approval, until 2024.

They will be jabbing away under the continued liability protection granted by the EUA until 2024.

Prof. Quiz is making very clear that the liability protection available now to the consumer, is in no way different with this FDA approval.

The liability protection has not changed along with this approval,as far as I know.

It’s not that there is a difference with the vaccine, that shouldn’t be.
It’s that there isn’t a difference with the liability, that should be.

So everyone touting that the FDA approval should make all the difference to the hesitant, should stop.

It’s not making any difference, for now.

Until 2024, it’s not.

I’m open to a better understanding.

But them being the same is not necessarily the only issue.

They are.

I was confused by that initially, now it’s the liability issue, that hasn’t changed, that seems weird.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

That is my comment above. My understanding was partially correct and somewhat incorrect.

FDA approval for 2 doses, 16 and up.

No FDA approval for 12-15 year olds, only EUA, and no FDA approval for the third dose for anyone, only EUA, 12 and up, and only then if they also have certain kinds of immunocompromising issues.

So probably no liability for the third dose at all, and no liability
for 12 to 15. How and if liability has changed for the FDA approvals I cannot say.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Not sure if last comment got lost when I tried to edit.
Follow up to correct previous post.

Still only EUA for third dose and even then only for those with certain kinds of immunocompromising issues, and for the first 2 doses, for 12-15 year olds, also EUA only.

FDA approval is only for the first 2 doses, and only for 16 and up.

EUA is for Pfizer-BioNtech.
FDA approval is for Comirnaty.

They have the same formulation, but are also somehow different, which may be in name only, possibly due to resulting differences in legal ramifications, only.

Alberta
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Alberta
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Corminaty Pfizer not approved-licensed by FDA apart from EUA

Courtesy of miningawareness
Aug 27 2021

Pfizer Corminaty CV was not approved-licensed by the FDA, apart from Emergency Use Authorization.

Rather, the European BioNTech mRNA vaccine, which is “legally distinct with certain differences” from Pfizer vaccine, was approved, but with conditions.

There are many studies that the FDA is requiring them to complete, which won’t be finished until 2027.

In the interim, we predict that these products will be removed from the market.

This Emergency Use Authorization apparently protects Pfizer from liability.

However, from our understanding, vaccine mandates for military, etc., cannot be undertaken for non-licensed vaccines.

Currently, Comirnaty is not available in the United States.

Clear
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Clear
2 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

COMIRNATY…”BioNTech, Fosun Pharma, Pfizer vaccine is a COVID-19 vaccine authorized by FDA and recommended by the CDC for use in the US for a limited population.” BioNTech, Pfizer vaccine
COVID-19 vaccine
Wrong again, as you are about EVERYTHING!

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Clear

Comirnaty for the third dose is not FDA approved, nor is the use in 12 to 15 year olds FDA approved. There is only EUA approval for Pfizer BioNtech or Comirnaty to be used in those applications, and the third dose is currently only for those people 12 and older, who have certain kinds of immunocompromising conditions.

Comirnaty is FDA approved only for 16 years and older as a 2 dose series for prevention of COVID, that’s it. Not for 12-15 year olds,
And not for a third dose.

So, you seemed to have missed that, as have many, I suppose.

This needs to be made very clear
to everyone. There has been too much confusion.

That’s what that “for a limited population caveat” is all about.

Spread the word.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I’m wondering if the dose is the same amount for a 100lb person as it is for a 300lb person?

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Good question.
Or a 5 to 11 year old, they are next, that would include 50 pounders, as well.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

China-Mirnity for the China Virus…. How quaint

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Alberta

Comirnaty (Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccinne) approved by FDA AUG 23rd, 2021.

It is available in all 50 US states.

It is insanely absurd how these most basic details need hammered into some people.

Comirnaty is a common market name…like Tylenol is common name for the drug Acetaminophen.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

PS. Common market names are not allowed for unapproved or EUA drugs.

Formerly 4T
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Formerly 4T
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

All 50 states eh? Have a source for that?

” Although COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is approved to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older, there is not sufficient approved vaccine available for distribution to this population in its entirety at the time of reissuance of this EUA.”

https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

In other words…no.

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank You Kim for posting the insert. But where is the list of ingredients? Hmmm

And after reading that I am just as reluctant as before. For instance, Just how many of these vaccinators at all these pop up tents have read the fine print? I’m no James Bond but I understand “Shaken not stirred”. WHY is there such emphasis put on :

• Before dilution invert vaccine vial gently 10 times.
• Do not shake.
• Inspect the liquid in the vaccine vial prior to
dilution. The liquid is a white to off-white
suspension and may contain white to off-white
opaque amorphous particles.
• Do not use if liquid is discolored or if other particles
are observed.

And WHAT, pray tell happens IF the protocols are not followed? Just one of many dubious “suggestions” that gives me pause. It is not uncommon to see videos of the vials getting shaken while inverted.

And I PRAY I am over reacting! Most of my family got the jab and I fear they will suffer various unexpected health issues this coming winter and beyond that will not be connected to this experimental jab.

What could possibly go wrong?

“Postmarketing data demonstrate increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly within 7 days
following the second dose. The observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age than among females
and older males. The observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age.”

So much for any Long Term Studies: 4 months?

“At the time of the analysis of the ongoing Study 2 with a data cut-off of March 13, 2021, there were
25,651 (58.2%) participants (13,031 COMIRNATY and 12,620 placebo) 16 years of age and older followed for
≥4 months after the second dose.”

“6.2 Postmarketing Experience
The following adverse reactions have been identified during postmarketing use of COMIRNATY, including
under Emergency Use Authorization. Because these reactions are reported voluntarily from a population of
uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequency or establish a causal relationship to
vaccine exposure. Cardiac Disorders: myocarditis, pericarditis Gastrointestinal Disorders: diarrhea, vomiting Immune System Disorders: severe allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, and other hypersensitivity reactions
(e.g., rash, pruritus, urticaria, angioedema) Musculoskeletal and Connective Tissue Disorders: pain in extremity (arm) ”

“Available data on COMIRNATY administered to pregnant women are
insufficient to inform vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy.”

“It is not known whether COMIRNATY is excreted in human milk. Data are not available to assess the effects of
COMIRNATY on the breastfed infant or on milk production/excretion. The developmental and health benefits
of breastfeeding should be considered along with the mother’s clinical need for COMIRNATY and any
potential adverse effects on the breastfed child from COMIRNATY or from the underlying maternal condition.

SAFE and EFFECTIVE?

Of course I cherry picked the things I wanted to emphasize but from what I read in the insert, I’ll stick to diet, exercise, and VITAMINS.

And we STILL don’t know what’s in the ingredients do we?

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thank You Kim and Good Night.

Formerly 4T
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Formerly 4T
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

It has been said numerous times that the jabs “contain the following”. Maybe they do…if you trust the criminals at pfizer.

But they DO NOT say that those are the ONLY ingredients in their jabs.

“COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine include the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane- 6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N- ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.”

See? “Includes the following”. They do have good lawyers.

Don’t think Japan would agree.

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago

Cognitive Dissonance?

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Typical anti vaxxer logic. Totally misunderstanding of reality. Of course it coercion. Docking people for showing up late to work is coercion. As is assigning duties, dress codes or personal hygiene. The issue is whether it is necessary for business functioning whether they can or can’t coerce including firing. And unless you are in the business of providing sex, it is not the same issue. Duh.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

You can change occupations, change your clothes, play in the mud when you get home.
You can’t change unwanted penetration of your body.
Get real AO… Typical Jabber brainwashing.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

You are comparing being raped with getting a shot to prevent illness, insane, honestly.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

My body my choice, right?

It’s tough when there’s evidence to question all the experts narrative.

When your body is a temple, yous understand how people who misuse their bodies shouldn’t be given a break from having to be responsible for those choices.

Is your lettuce clean?

You work hard to keep your lettuce clean, and that comes at a premium, and all those toxic non organic industrial players are dictating that you lower your bar?

No, you focus on your own clients and Let Big Ag feed the masses.

People are manipulated by fear.

https://www.city-journal.org/the-politics-of-fear

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago

That nonsense phrase was mildly clever for five seconds.

People are manipulated through fear. Anti vaxxers are both the perpetrators and victims of that fear. And slathering on a self righteous layer of organic food ideology doesn’t changer that. It’s not all about you. You don’t get to puff disease in anyone’s face any more than tobacco smoke and expect to get paid for it.

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Who are the anti-vaxxers? Why are they afraid? What fear are they spreading?

You sound like you’re afraid. You are afraid others will kill you because they’re not vaccinated. You obviously don’t believe your shots work. You leave no room for nuance in your diatribes. Quit projecting your insecurities. We all die some day. Make peace with your choices and shut up about how others are supposed to live.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Penny Pincer

They are all over this comment section.

More scared of a proven method of disease reduction than a potentially debilitating or deadly virus.

But when the unvaxxed end up in the hospital they beg for all kinds of experimental drugs with extremely questionable efficacy.

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

How is it proven? How’s those phase 4 trials going? Are they tracking breakthrough cases? No? What cycles are they running those pcr tests at? Enjoy the panic of not knowing how an experimental therapy can affect you long term. No wonder you guys are so fearful. I’ve never been an early adopter of technology. Not going to start now. Remember, when you don’t pay for a service, YOU’RE the product.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago

My lettuce has been clean ever since I put my first seed in the ground as a youngster. You supporting “My body is a Temple” which is a slogan used for abortion rights in relation to a global health crisis is absurd.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Afghanistan is a perfect example of why many people will never trust the government

It’s not in our best interests to keep believing in those who repeatedly show contempt for your well being.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago

Leave Afghanistan out of it, that is personal to me. We inherently are supposed to not trust government our forefathers gave us that right. However, we screwed that all up because of our complacency after WWII. Now it is up to interpeting what that exactly means. Does it mean over throwing our government, not really, only as a last resort. It means we should question our government and yes that we do. It is also to cause change by not allowing political leadership to hold political positions long term which leads to corruption, in this we have failed.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

One is unwanted penetration of a person’s body. The other is unwanted penetration of a person’s body.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 👍

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Unwanted penetration to pleasure an individual vs unwanted penetration to subdue a global health crises. Really very sad this Republican lead narrative that has killed so many. Reagen is rolling in his grave I bet!

Clear
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Clear
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

ILS…You obviously have never been raped!!! Disgusting comparison. Grow the F up.

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

Many rapists think they’re doing their victim a favor… Part of the psychological rationale of forcing something on somebody that they didn’t want. Kind of like, “it’s for your own safty”

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

If you’re unwilling to comply with job requirements then get a different job. Public safety is more important than your personal income.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago

Public safety isn’t just for jabbers. It’s for the entire public, and at least 1/2 don’t want this jab. Not just in Ca. but around the world.

Something just isn’t right when you have to FORCE a jab on people.
It reeks of control, not health.
No one wants to be sick or make others sick.

Why not let unjabbed nurses care for unjabbed clients? Too easy?
Doesn’t control enough people? Won’t ruin enough lives and careers?

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Better yet don’t seek health care if you are not willing to wear a mask or get vaccinated. Take your worm medication or bleach and trust in god. Willing to talk the talk but not walk the walk!!

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

No problem. Haven’t been to the doctor in 24 years. Don’t plan on starting now. Unless I need assistance with acute trauma, they can offer me very little value.

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

I love how people keep saying at least 1/2 don’t want the jab. Even Humboldt county is up to 59% I think. And more and more people are getting it every day.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

Humboldt has a tiny fraction of 6 Billion people. You should look outside your bubble once in a while.

Skitty
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Skitty
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

You said in Ca.
Wrong.
Around the world I can’t keep track of.
Do you dispute every day more and more people are getting the “jab”.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

I said, “Not just in Ca. but around the world.”
Seems you can’t even keep track of the one post you’re responding to.
I hope everyone who wants the jab, gets the jab, and I wish them well.

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
Reply to  Skitty

Check out the protests in Australia and Europe right now..

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Twisted, safety of others health during a health crisis vs the violation of one’s body are not the same. What exactly are you trying to say? To what level does one continue to revert in order to try and make lies into something believable.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Legallettuce

There’s been a health crisis for some time.

How about we shut your farm down because you are non essential.?

Let’s take away your business and see if you stick to defending the indefensible.

Yes, there’s been a health crisis, an environmental crisis, and a government that needs to be held to account.

It appears there is very little these days.

The psychological warfare is working.

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago

Your logic is skewed. I do not even know where to begin. I know how to fish, hunt and grow. I can assemble shelter for myself and provide power to improve my living conditions. Me, my farm, do not require materiel things, only a coffee press to help me go poop in the morning.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Where do you find these idiotic memes?
You’re not convincing anyone of anything with stupid shit like this.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

I think just about every image-with-text like that is idiotic… The format seems to exist to enable people too lazy or incompetent to write out an argument to take up as much space as possible as quickly as possible.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

bingo

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Don’t kid yourself…

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

Most memes are for bolstering an already held belief. Recognition that someone “understands” how you feel about something.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Most “believers” NEED others to believe too. This way they can feel better about themselves.

Confirmation bias

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago

anti gene therapy people aren’t all anti-vaccine…. Anti-Koolaid is not anti science.

some people think 6 months is ultra short term

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  bearjoo

mRNA vaccines are NOT Gene Therapy.
They do NOT change DNA.

Covid changes DNA before killing the host cell.

Gene Therapy specifically involves changing DNA for therapeutic purposes.

DNA is the blueprint.
RNA carries the protein instructions to cells.

https://biologydictionary.net/dna-vs-rna/

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-myth-versus-fact

https://www.pmfias.com/difference-virus-bacteria-dna-rna-viruses/

Please stop your incessant, blind(ing) spread of misinformation.

At some point, once you’ve been informed that you are spreading misinformation, dozens of times, and shown verifiable facts and sources that you willfully ignore or twist to meet your bias, it is sensical to presume that you are willfully spreading falsehoods…which leads to labelling it disinformation…the willful spread of false information for an intended effect. A dangerous form of public manipulation.

Or maybe it’s just a serious lack of education…or critical thinking skills…idk.

Are you a Russian troll?

Whatever the reason, the ongoing crap is outlandish and absurd.

Assumming there’s a chance you can accept when you are wrong:
A drastic improvement in reading comprehension skills is warranted.
Courses on biology and microbiology.
And the scientific method.

Learn the difference between Hypothesis and Theory.

And Correlation vs Causation.

If a million people eat 1 lollipop today and 23 people die in the next 24hrs was it the lollipops that killed em?

Hint: In 2019, on average, 23 people died per 1million of US pop per day

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Get your vaccine, get a lollipop…

I’m down with the lollipop theory…

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Learn the History of psychological warfare, then you will understand a dirty little secret.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

nano lipid jacket for spike protein delivery device.

Many of the patents for this listed “hydrogel” and graphene oxide, which the EU spent millions on researching over the past decade. Exciting new Zombie Juice. Hail Klaus. After my 59th booster I should be good to go right…?

https://9gag.com/gag/aGp56y5

I guess the government of Japan is also spreading misinformation about Ivermectin and “metallic” crap inside the Zombie Juice. How dare them!

Bearjoo
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Bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thanks Kym!

I hope you are having a blessed day, and appreciate you putting up with us!

Long lived the vaxxed and Organic….

My personal bend is a spiritual one which makes the “science” debate a bit less personally compelling… Just went with my gut against the grain. But if anything does go sideways with the shots, I will not say I told you so… I will be praying for everybody on this board!

Bless up

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Yep, and dr. Fauci wasn’t funding gain-of-function research in China either.

Formerly 4T
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Formerly 4T
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Not gene therapy? 🤔

This titled “Messneger RNA-based Vaccines”. It’s old news really.

“Although located in the cytosol and not in the nucleus, mature mRNAs belong to the biochemical family of nucleic acids. mRNA, similarly to DNA, may be considered a gene and, consequently, it’s use as a vaccine may be viewed as ‘gene therapy’.”

https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1517/14712598.4.8.1285 (chapter 7)

As for it being a “vaccine”:

“The definition of a gene therapy medicinal product as outlined in Annex 1 to Directive 2001/83/EC is as follows:

Gene therapy medicinal product means a biological medicinal product which has the following characteristics:

(a) it contains an active substance which contains or consists of a recombinant nucleic acid used in or administered to human beings with a view to regulating, repairing, replacing, adding or deleting a genetic sequence;
(b) its therapeutic, prophylactic or diagnostic effect relates directly to the recombinant nucleic acid sequence it contains, or to the product of genetic expression of this sequence.
Gene therapy medicinal products shall not include vaccines against infectious diseases.

Gene therapy medicinal products shall not include vaccines against infectious diseases.”

https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1007/978-1-4939-6481-9_13

I won’t stoop the msm-inspired term “disinformation”. Just a little confused perhaps.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

There’s only one death that’ll convince a mule headed anti vaxxer. Let’s organize a covid party for y’all wanting natural immunity and enjoy!

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago

Heh, give people a choice, mandatory vaccine or mandatory covid party and two weeks’ isolation? That would be one way to get to herd immunity nice and quick…

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Let’s throw the Jabbed into the Covid party and see if the jabs work.
We can call it science by the experts.
Stupid comments deserve stupid replies.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Please look up “nuance”.
And “variables”.
And “efficacy”.

Oh yeah….and check the chart in the article.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

My town is one big Covid Party. 3 dead. Many more are ill. The party favors are lung damage and fatigue, at the least.
Some have been lucky and recovered.
It might take some more death to convince the people , and I gotta laugh, that “did their own research “ and are still not getting vaccinated. They’re expert virologists now despite barely graduating high school.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

It does seem more and more clear as the days go by and the infection & death #s skyrocket again that the only thing that will convince many of the “holdouts” will be personal experience with long term and/or permanent injury, and death from this affliction.

Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
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Anonymous for fear of community reprisal
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

There’s not a whole lot of evidence for permanent lung damage or extreme long-term effects. Most long haulers get over their symptoms within four months. It’s taken me that long to get over the Humboldt crud before.

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

The unvaccinated are exposing the rest of us to their “Covid party” every time they’re allowed at work and in public places. It isn’t turning out well so it’s best they are told to self isolate at home until this is over.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

And since they don’t trust doctors and science to keep you from getting sick, they can quit clogging up the hospitals trusting them to cure them.
They can ride it out at home. And tell their loved ones that no matter how sick they are, do not call an ambulance or take them to the ER.
It’s time for them stand behind their convictions and “ research”.
People that need routine care are turned away because these idiots are hogging hospital beds.
Don’t want the vaccine? Fine. Stay the fuck out of the hospital.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

Covid is not going away. You may not yet realize it, but life is now a Covid experience. If you ever decide to go a party again, it may be a Covid party. Get vaxxed if you want to. Stay home if you want to. Go to a party if you want to. Different choices for different folks.

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

Condolences to the families of the deceased.

Comment section is Groundhog (Fri)Day.

CancelLogic
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CancelLogic
2 years ago

What was the BMI of the people who died? Were there any pre-existing conditions? When was the last time they had exercised or done strenuous activities?
I believe all of those questions are relevant and for some reason people don’t want to hear all of the facts.

If I were 265lbs and 5’10” with type 2 diabetes and ended up succumbing to covid would it be considered a covid death? Would it be my fault for not getting a shot? Or perhaps poor diet, sedentary living and overall lack of self control caused it? Should we form picket lines to protest cigarette smokers taking up valuable hospital beds with heart disease and pulmonary problems caused by their poor choices?

Isn’t it perfectly legal in California for someone that’s HIV positive to refrain from disclosing to a sexual partner the fact that they have a deadly virus? I hope they wear face masks…

How big of a burden on society are the bums and junkies that are leaving their free needles laying all over the county? This state is so broken and backwards already yet the leftists think it’s a good idea to shut everything down. How will we fund your socialist programs if the shops are closed or nobody’s going out? Print more…

It’s just miserable when the ones crying foul the most seem to generally be putting the least into the pot. Sadly Socialism doesn’t work if everyone hops on the gravy train of welfare, section 8 housing, neverending unemployment, eviction moratoriums and the countless other freeloader programs.

My hope is that those of us who do not use a single dollar of handouts will decide that enough is enough and quit supporting the overweight lazy slobs that sit around smoking cigarettes drinking Dr. Pepper on the porch of a government subsidized apartment. I think that I’d like to quit my job and sign up for welfare. I’d like to take in the views from my porch and blame my neighbors for giving me covid as my daily regimen of 6,000 calories derived from Doritos and soda invokes that innermost Americanesque type 2 diabeetus right out of me. Yes it will be my neighbors fault that I don’t have the strength to fight off the Cerveza cold. How dare they!

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  CancelLogic

Get used to it, Gavin has invited them here from all over the world.

namer
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namer
2 years ago
Reply to  CancelLogic

A Carton of cigarettes, two (2) 2l bottles of Dr. Pepper and five (5) family sized bags of Doritos (assorted flavors) would probably be sufficient to pull in at least a few hundred million more souls into the VAXXCORP family—if they commit to receiving the injection prior to receiving the oral death rations.

Cheap fuckers, trying to get over on one (1) taco.

Loved, “diabeetus.”

That is totally how you’re supposed to say it, if you have it.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
Reply to  namer

It worked for Jim Jones.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  CancelLogic

I’m sure the banksters, corporate rip offs , etc are eternally grateful that you are convinced unhealthy welfare recipients are who is ruining everything.
Not a word about corporate subsidies and a bloated military budget.
Most politicians are corporate shills and don’t give one fuck about you.
You’re mindset is just where they want it to be.
Congratulations, you are their mouthpiece.

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

Lol , what?

“You’re being a shill for big corporations by promoting physical fitness “

Again , what?

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

The two phenomena can be related. Perhaps the source of the poor health of the financially underprivileged is the conscious choices made by the “banksters, corporate rip offs , etc”?

After all, are we to believe that the owners, managers, and investors in a company like Pepsi co are oblivious to the harm their myriad products cause? Are they blissfully unaware? Are they too poorly educated to connect the unhealthy habits that they’ve spent billions fostering in the population to the growing public health crisis of chronic lifestyle disease?

And what are we to make of the overlap between industrial ag/food, petrochemical extraction, and industrial medicine? If the same people are financing public harm and then funding the subsidized solution, what are we to make of their morals and motivations?

CancelLogic
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CancelLogic
2 years ago

Drink water…

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago
Reply to  CancelLogic

Especially in this heat

CancelLogic
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CancelLogic
2 years ago

“Brawndo fix everything”

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

Thanks HotCoffee. Protests against the vaxx mandates today in Olympia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_xTXSwcV8CU

ED Denson
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ED Denson
2 years ago

I believe 2 of today’s deaths were from Alderpoint. That makes 3 from this very small town with a fairly low vaccination rate. Word on the street is that a 4th death is approaching fast. Want to hear today’s weirdest idea? The vaccine gives you asymptomatic Covid, which you then unknowingly spread to people who are not vaccinated. If this were true it would be a strong argument for getting vaccinated, wouldn’t it? Well, an anti-vaxer said it.

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

And Ed has just learned that? The disconnect is troubling.

CancelLogic
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CancelLogic
2 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

What was the pre-covid health status of the victims?

thats simple
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thats simple
2 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

Because, i’m vaccinated asymptomatic rubber, your unvaxxed glue, my covid bounces off me and sticks to you.

Lynn H
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Lynn H
2 years ago
Reply to  thats simple

Is that a song?

Lynn H
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Lynn H
2 years ago
Reply to  thats simple

Actually, IF I was anti covid vax I’d rather catch it from you than other unvaxed people. Less viral shedding.

thats simple
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thats simple
2 years ago
Reply to  thats simple

Probably should have added , it is really a good reason to vaccinate.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

Ed Denson,
Good day to you. You have my respect.
So tragic are the deaths in the Alderpoint area. I broke down and cried when I heard the news yesterday.

I understand what you are saying about the asymptomatic aspect seeming like it would be a good thing.

If I got Covid19 I would definitely prefer it to be an asymptomatic case.

However, I also see the person’s point that suggested it could be problematic.

I think his point is that asymptomatic Covid19 would more easily be spread unknowingly, to friends and family, or others, especially the ones that are unvaccinated.

If he gets Covid19, he wants to know it, so that he can stay away from his friends and family, and not unknowingly infect them.

He cares for the well-being of others,
not just himself, even to the detriment to himself. I find an honorable aspect to his position, however self defeating it may seem.

It may be deemed and seem unwise,
but I see it as more Noble and less self preserving.

I had never really thought of it that way. Had you? It’s really very Noble.
Very considerate of others, in theory.

That aspect of being vaccinated, that is, being more likely to infect others
unbeknownst, may be contributing to the problem we are having.

On the other side of the coin would be the strictly self-preserving among us, that get the vaccine only in consideration of oneself, and once the think they are protected, proceed to charge forth through the population unmasked and haphazardly, regardless of the potential for spread to self or from self, in regards to any infection that might be present or being spread.
They don’t care about others, just themselves. Less Noble.

Of course there are everyone in between that care about everyone.

They either get vaccinated or not, depending on their situation, but are considerate of others and mask, distance, stay home, etc., more or less considerate of others.

Self-sacrificing, in consideration of others, as a mantra, is in my opinion far less distasteful, than being self-preserving, through inconsideration of others.

To be clear, Ed Denson, I find you to be a wise man, considerate of all concerned. Circumspect.
Respect to you.

The “Anti-vaxxer’s” position in this discussion is more nuanced. He is afraid he might become an unwilling vector, and he wants no part of that. I see it.
And I respect him for that. Many won’t.

The “Vaxxer’s” position that would the polar opposite, would be that they would be a willing vector, making no adjustment to their infectious daily routine, knowing full well they could be infecting others at any moment, but are totally unconcerned because they think they are protected, by their vaccination, and that, to them, is all that matters.

Yuck. I find that distasteful, and unwise.

And that could be contributing to the problems.

AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Thanks, Guest and melanospin.

Chris
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Chris
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

😂
The following is one of your most self-serving, self-deluding statements I’ve read to date:
“ The “Vaxxer’s” position … would be that they would be a willing vector, making no adjustment to their infectious daily routine, knowing full well they could be infecting others at any moment, but are totally unconcerned because they think they are protected, by their vaccination, and that, to them, is all that matters”

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2 years ago
Reply to  Chris

Why did you leave out the, “that would [be] the polar opposite”, part. That would incomplete your quote, and completely change the meaning.

(I guess I overlooked the “be”, it was supposed to “be” in there, my error, but it looks like you added it, so clearly it was understood)

Mister Twister.

I am not the one that has deluded myself.

The self-delusion would be your own, that much is clear.

I was using a reverse analogy, hence the use of, “that would be the polar opposite”, that you so misunderstandingly, left out.

You misconstrued and misquoted it as a simple statement, by an incomplete context, which you have done in error.

Then you have portrayed it as my statement, which is also in error.

Not to suggest that both types of people don’t exist, I’m sure they do, but what I was trying to describe, was to illustrate the possible position of the “Alderpoint Anti-Vaxxer”, by describing the hypothetically hypothetical, polar opposite.

What your mind conjured up is purely a figment of your imagination.

The alleged delusion. It’s yours.
And you have lended it credence in your denial of it, and therefore your defense of it.

It’s no delusion of mine.
The existence of such common inconsiderate people, I have no doubt of, but I referenced an idea, not a specific person or group.

You did not read that, you misread that.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

Sounds like you were told a typical antivaxxer distortion. The vaccination doesn’t *give* anyone asymptomatic COVID, it decreases the chance of becoming symptomatic if COVID infection is acquired.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Your splitting hairs Thirdeye,
The increased risk of Asymptomatic Covid19 due to vaccination would be the result of vaccination, not Covid19 itself.
You could read that into it, but that doesn’t mean that is what the guy meant.
“Decreases the chance of symptomatic”, what you said.
“Increases the chance of asymptomatic”, what he said.

The jist is the same.

It’s semantics. That is all.

Typical pro-vax bending contortion.
Twisting, wringing, turning, tortion.
Totally spinning, out of proportion.

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Sounds like you’re trying to rationalize a stupid, busted argument by saying “no difference” between it and a reasonable argument when the difference is plain for all to see.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

Thirdeye,

What seems plain to see, is that the argument you are referring to is from a second hand account, and that you should have considered that first of all.

You may be the second one that is misinterpreting it.

That’s all.

And your coming on a little to strong.

And could you please specify which argument is stupid and busted and which one is reasonable.

Could the “Alderpoint Anti-vaxxer” have been misquoted? Or maybe just misinterpreted?

You’re taking it and running with it.

Rationalize that.

If you heard it firsthand,
Thirdeye, that would be different.

You’re running with ” He said, she said”, as if you were an eye witness.

You’d only be a Thirdeye witness, see?

The difference is plain to see.

It’s like a copy of a copy.

The lines become blurred.

I didn’t say there was no difference.

I said that maybe there was a significant difference.

Apparently that was lost in translation as well.

Local Farmer
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Local Farmer
2 years ago
Reply to  ED Denson

The fact that Ed Denson still doesn’t know that vaccinated people people can catch and spread covid is indicative of the widespread ignorance of the Facts about covid in the population.

If it’s raining use an umbrella
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If it’s raining use an umbrella
2 years ago

If it’s raining hard outside, use an umbrella if you wanna stay dry. ( or stay inside)
The covid is like rain – the delta variant is a downpour- get a vaccination if you don’t wanna get sick when you get the covid.( or stay isolated).

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago

Lived in Humboldt long? Look around the next time we are lucky enough to get a good rain. Some folks here do use umbrellas, but most don’t. Even though water can kill you, most folks aren’t afraid of a small amount falling from the sky.

Non-fiction
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Non-fiction
2 years ago

If Asymptomatic then no indication to get tested.

Vaxxed folks, on average, spread covid at much lower levels of viral shedding and for much shorter periods than unvaxxed.

Fact

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Non-fiction

Link to support the claim of “fact”?

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

The Delta viral loads in an infected vaccinated person are still high enough to be contagious, although not at the same levels as in an unvaccinated person.

AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Stars, thanks, the fully vaxxed can carry the same viral load as the unvaxxed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/double-jabbed-carry-same-viral-load-of-covid-as-unvaccinated/ar-AANuNXh

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago

The Punch is “Spiked”

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2 years ago
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Sucker Punch.

Stillwantstoknow
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Stillwantstoknow
2 years ago

Who knows,right?
@VMG…
“spread their crazy ideas whilst trying to kill their neighbors with stupid propoganda…”

People should shut the internet down. And read the Bible instead. There’s some amazing (air-quotes) propaganda😃 in there that’s actually coming true as we speak….

The way I see it, the TRUTH is such A THREAT that there are those employed by dark forces to create confusion around this and many other issues that smokescreen what’s (spiritually) happening globally right now in front of our very eyes!

Wake up people! Please! What’s really happening right now was written in the book of Revelations in the Holy Bible LONG AGO! So get off the internet, go dust off your Bibles and check it out for yourself. You should have a little🙏 talk 🙏 with Jesus before you do though. Otherwise it will be comparative to reading a book in a darkened room with your eyes closed.. It’s called spiritually blind.

We all know there’s something going on and if ( I know) it’s true, we’re all in a lot of trouble having been deceived. CONFUSION IS OF THE DEVIL.

Some people are trying NOT to kill their neighbors, but to save them from the wrath that’s coming.

We’re all sinners. That’s why the the Ten Commandments had to come down. And now don’t blame anyone that our world is a mess. Instead ask yourself this question,WHY were those 10 little moral laws such a threat that they were removed ?
( 10 commandments; Exodus 20: 1-17. )

Because the devil has come down with great wrath knowing his time is short. And there will be a place of judgement where we will give account for all the deeds done in our life.

We’re all facing death. And right now it has been expedited. And unless we’re too stoned (🥴devil’s plan🤬) to think about our mortality then I KNOW we are ALL thinking about it.

Bottom line….time to repent, get our lives right with The Creator. If a holy God got off His throne in the Heavenlies, and came down here to walk amongst us in the form of His only begotten Son, (Jesus) , so He could show us the way to be reconciled to Himself because of His great love for us, and because of our lack of desire for a moral compass, then we have a personal choice to make. Today is a good day to make it. Don’t worry about what others will think OR about all the bad stuff you’ve done.

Ask God to forgive you and change you, He will. And then find another human that loves the Holy Bible and bears good fruit and grow in your love and knowledge of The Lord Jesus Christ who died to forgive your sins ! 🙏❤️🥰🤔😍😁

I have begun taking my.own moral inventory and found myself sorely lacking. 🥺I ask for forgiveness and am repenting😭 and laying down things in my own life that aren’t pleasing to my Creator. Please join me….FOE, FRIEND, NEIGHBOR, STRANGER, ❤️I’m praying for you! 🙏🥰💌😄

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago

Amen!

Legallettuce
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Legallettuce
2 years ago

The bible is a conspiracy theory as well. Jesus ain’t comming back cause he cannot. Mary lied and got knocked up by the neighbor and was to scared to tell Joseph

Willie Bray
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2 years ago
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🕯🌳”They can’t stand the truth. “🖖🖖

Thirdeye
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Thirdeye
2 years ago

“People should shut the internet down….”

Then why are you here?

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago

@stillwantstoknow. — I really dig this post of yours! Thanks and Blessings. To say this is an easy time for any of us would be a lie.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago

🕯🌳I see the crazy train pulled back into Humboldt. 🧬🧬🔬

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

Six unvaccinated carried out of the hospital in a bag and three new hospitalizations – a macabre manner of relief for our strained health care system. Let’s keep this covid party going until we’ve attained the holy grail of herd immunity – it’s gotta be close now. Really folks, get vaccinated or self isolate at home. The unvaccinated are a threat to civilized society and need to be contained.

MeMa
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MeMa
2 years ago

Hello Me World
Me the Democrat
Me the Republican
Me lets blame someone else
Me lets be selfish
Me lets be petty
Me it’s someone else’s grandma
Me it’s someone else’s child that’s overweight
Me it’s someone else with health issues
Me lets do nothing to help others
I challenge the me people to do something for someone else, 1 thing, can you?
If not this world will surely SELF destroy.

CancelLogic
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CancelLogic
2 years ago
Reply to  MeMa

Me shall gift you the power of knowledge. With this knowledge you will have the power to take control of your own life and not expect strangers to support you or protect you…

Calorie deficit is the path to a healthy weight. Smoking, drinking and sedentary living is the path to early death from innumerable illnesses.

With this new found knowledge you and you alone choose your path. Choose well!

seabreeze
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seabreeze
2 years ago
Reply to  MeMa

MeMa 👍

Willie Bray
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2 years ago
Reply to  MeMa

🕯🌳Me,Me,Me.🖖🖖

mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
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mlr the giant squirrel in Eureka
2 years ago

I’m a believer that natural immunity can be at least as protective as vaccines but there needs to be a quantitatively measurable standard for antibodies our medical community agrees upon. Once we have that, let’s issue the equivalent of a vaccine card to those that are tested and exceed the standard. No vaccine mandate needed for those that instead choose to get sick.

FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago

Unfortunately it is not the case. Antibodies seem to deteriorate over time and are somewhat strain specific. I know of a few people that have had it more than once. Here is an article about a guy who had been previously infected in Jan 2020 and tested positive for antibodies, but they didn’t work against delta.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article253708748.html

Lynn H
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Lynn H
2 years ago

Agree. It’s too bad the antibody tests aren’t as accurate as they could be, but IIRC even with the best conditions and timing I think they are more specific than sensitive. So they should have more false negatives than false positives. I think anyone getting a pos should be fine. For now at least.. Although, personally I got covid before the Vaccines were available and still went out and got a vaccine. Better chances..

Mee
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Mee
2 years ago

So why is Humboldt hit so hard? Seems like it is hit harder than most other places?

As for the Vaccine, well Trump administration came up with it so to paint anti vaccers as low IQ Trump followers is insane.

If it works so well why is illness on the rise?

If it works so well and you have been vaccinated then why are you worried about other people not getting it? Get yours and you will be fine. If it does not work what is the point of getting it?

Just some questions people need to ask themselves.

Empathy on Empty
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Empathy on Empty
2 years ago

I simply cannot comprehend the actual stupidity and stubbornness of the anti-vaccine people on this thread.
And I am out of empathy for those that choose not to vaccinate.

Ya Basic!

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago

Thank you. We never wanted your unsolicited advice. It’s good to know you never cared about anyone but yourself. Thanks for the virtue signaling. Have a nice day!

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago

The feeling is mutual for those who who know how to think for themselves.

The only way you can force people to go against their instincts, is under the threat of violence, or actual violence.

We live in AMERICA, for heavens sake, the land of the morbidly obese, and those soft coddled immune compromised.

I can empathize with the Taliban, who understand how to fight American domestication.

Yeah, no empathy for the ignorant.

Empathy is your weakness.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago

Taking the tequila shot is a choice. I chose not to because I am a Christian and my faith prevents me from doing something I think marries my body to future boosters putting my life in the hands of a Fortune 500 corporation which I think is service to evil.. But that doesn’t mean I am going to the plaza to spin fire.

It is against God to catch or spread covid. The pro vaxxers make that point and point it out well.

The folks who have waited and think the data set has changed for the worse have valid reasons to avoid the shot.

Bottom line: whether vaccinated or not, acting like there is no pandemic is wrong. Judging others for their choice is also incorrect in my opinion as a believer in Christ.

Bless Up

thank you!
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thank you!
2 years ago
Reply to  bearjoo

I always appreciate when people make it perfectly clear that christianity has lead them to additional stupid positions.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  thank you!

I always appreciate Sellout China big Pharma pushers who try to obfuscate the truth

Ash
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Ash
2 years ago

Stop Newsom’s Racist vaccine mandates!

Only 1% of black people in Humboldt County have decided to take the covid shot. This means that 99% of black people in Humboldt county will be segregated and discriminated against by any policy that requires vaccination.

https://covid19.ca.gov/vaccination-progress-data/#progress-by-group

Thirdeye
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2 years ago
Reply to  Ash

You don’t even know what that 1% statistic is. It’s not the portion of the black population vaccinated any more than 72.8% is the portion of the white population vaccinated. Learn to understand the data you post before spouting off, so you don’t embarrass yourself again.

Ash
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2 years ago
Reply to  Thirdeye

I think you might be right and mabie I did misread that. I think the other section is deals with what I was talking about showing that roughly half of all minority groups will suffer segregation and discrimination due to these mandates.
Is that a more acceptable number?

Thirdeye
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2 years ago
Reply to  Ash

Ten percent lag in vaccination rate of blacks relative to whites. All anyone of any race has to do to avoid “discrimination” is get vaccinated. Your lame attempt at playing the race card has failed.

Bushytails
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2 years ago
Reply to  Ash

Did you even read the page?
Here, I’ll quote for you: “People who identified as Black have received 1.0% of the vaccines administered and make up 1.2% of the vaccine-eligible population”

Or, to put it another way, over 80% (1.0/1.2) of black people have received their vaccination. The actual number is likely even higher, since filling out race information for your vaccination is optional, while the eligible population is likely taken from census or other data.

Or did you already know this, and hope to fool others?

Ash
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2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

I think you might be right and mabie I did misread that. I think the other section is deals with what I was talking about showing that roughly half of all minority groups will suffer segregation and discrimination due to these mandates.
Is that a more acceptable number?

Scooter
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Scooter
2 years ago

250 comments and most of it conspiracy theories and weak anti science FB crap. Just hurry up and die. Eat some Ivermectin, drink some bleach, I will remember you forever. NOT!

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooter

It’s mutual for those who understand psych warfare haa removed people of the idea that they need to do a better job with the level of health and education in this country.

By all means, wish the ignorant people who have squandered their health and vitality for SAFETY.

This virus is killing the unfortunate lot who did not plan well.

I’ve taken my cues to double down on my connection with health minded, active people.

The rest of you can continue to flail in the light of unintended consequences.

gogoat
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gogoat
2 years ago

Well, the person who invented the PCR test has said it can not accurately test for Covid-19. It can not tell the difference between the Rona, the flu or the “Delta”. It has a HUGE false positive rate. Brings the numbers up for cases. He said its like trying to measure the sq footage of your home with a thermometer (wrong tool)
AND hospitals tested their dead for Covid even if they did not die from it or had big time co-morbidity.
Brings the numbers up.
And a few weeks ago the CDC said they would STOP COUNTING MILD CASES OF COVID-19 IN THE FULLY VACCINATED.
Brings the numbers up big time “against the un-vaccinated”.
Think people, all I am asking you to do.
Now, the person who invented MRNA tech has stated it should never,ever been taken by humans. One reason, when animal trials were done in 2005 they had problems and stopped the study. What happened. Well, at first the anti-body numbers came way up and they thought that was good right ? Same thing is happening in humans right now. Milder cases and all that.
BUT, after 2 months all the mice DIED when their immune systems over reacted to a common Corona virus.
NOW, what is the average life span of a mouse compared to a human ?
The vaxxed will have big problems over the next 6 months-2 years.
In Israel where 80% of the population got the Pfizer jab they are starting to see problems. Iceland too.
The Vaxxed bodies are now full of spike proteins which the jab now tells your cells to produce. You know, spike proteins like Covid-19.
A lot of the upcoming deaths will be blamed on Covid-19. Thing is, its the jab that will be killing people.
And they will try and blame it on the non vaccinated.
Do not get the jab.
Take Quercetin, vitamin D, C and zinc everyday and live your life.

Bushytails
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Bushytails
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

Basically every single word of that is factually inaccurate.
The person who invented PCR tests died before covid, and thus did not say a single thing about covid testing.
PCR tests have extremely low false positive rates.
PCR tests accurately identify the exact virus being tested for.
Only deaths that a doctor believes were explicitly caused by covid are counted as covid deaths.
The CDC never said any such thing.
The scientists inventing mrna vaccines never said any such thing.
The animals did not die in studies, until they were euthanized at the planned end of the study.
There is no sign that the vaccinated will have future problems related to being vaccinated.
Israel has not seen any such problems, nor iceland.
The vaccines only produce spike proteins for a short period of time, and then they’re destroyed by the body.
A lot of upcoming deaths will be blamed on covid-19, because they were caused by covid-19.

I probably missed some, but that’s enough for now.

cmon man get real
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cmon man get real
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Nope. PCR test failed due to no distinguishing between common cold and bioweapon flu due to both being related. The Reality is that the bioweapon is now here forever, just like the cold and the flu. There is not a thing you or anyone else can do about it. The gene therapy failed because the inventor told you it would. The recent Israeli study found that the majority of those infected are also vaccinated. The Japanese medical association head is now recommending Ivermectin to hammer back this bioweapon to all doctors. At least half of all first responders are not shot up. Ivermectin,hydroxy, zinc, vitamin a and d are known to be preventatives which cost very little. Who was that guy in Haiti who said he would save his people that a movie was made about staring Forrest Whittaker?
The on,y answer to this is to let the chips fall where they may:, if u are shot, then go about your day and stop harassing others if you fall into that persona OR go about your day and do what you always have done for your entire life because you know what is right for you,. Leave people alone.

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Nice Marmot
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

The inverter of the PCR test’s nave is Karry Tullis. He went to Berkley. You should watch some of his interviews. Anyway the PCR test isn’t even used any more. Gates and Fauci have invested in a new test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWOJKuSKw5c

This is a snip of the best interview I’ve found. If you can find the whole interview I highly recommend it. The original interview is a hour and a half and seems to be gone.. I’d love to see the whole thing again.
Very interesting guy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aISPlTLbJo

Prof. Quiz
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Prof. Quiz
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

At what cycles are you suggesting the PCR test has “extremely low false positive rates”?

And can you PROVE what cycles are being used by EACH lab?

Therein lies the rub with me.

There is no sign that the vaccinated will NOT have future problems because there are NO long term studies. YOU are the study. Let’s wait and see. I will.

Ashley Moore
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Ashley Moore
2 years ago
Reply to  Prof. Quiz

Fauci Finally Admits What We All Knew About PCR

nitter.net/NeverSleever/status/1431468633868361730#m

Fauci and his people had the inventor of the PCR test and Nobel Prize Winner, Kary Mullis murdered in 2019 just before the scamdemic .
Mullis said the PCR test is not to be used to test for infectious disease. It’s the wrong test. PCR should be cycled 20-25 times max. They were cycling it 40-45 times resulting in false positive Covid tests.
Mullis also challenged Fauci to a debate, which he declines. Kary also said: “He really doesn’t know anything about anything. And I’ll say that to his face”.

gogoat
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gogoat
2 years ago
Reply to  Bushytails

Want some more ??
You might want to get a understanding of the term “antibody dependent enhancement”.
The animals did die, not from the vaccine per se, but die they did. And not from being euthanized , but from overwhelming sepsis and cardiac failure.
See, these spike proteins can go anywhere, any organ and cause life ending damage. Its like Russian roulette, only you play it til you die. Every time.
https://varjager.wordpress.com/2021/01/30/dr-lee-merritt-in-animal-studies-after-being-injected-with-mrna-technology-all-animals-died-upon-reinfection/

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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

If that were true, then everyone who got infected with that master spike maker, SARS-COV-2, would suffer from ADE. Because everyone who got infected and recovered has those same antibodies that you somehow think are deadly if created from a vaccine and not from the actual virus.

Besides the vaccine contains instructions to make the spike protein. Making the spike protein uses up the instruction mRNA. Once the dose of instruction making mRNA is used, it’s gone. There is no instructions for making more instructions. So the vaccine can’t keep cranking out spike proteins, the created spike protein is then attacked by the immune system and even if it wasn’t, it dies with the cell , so it does not last wherever it goes.

Empathy on Empty
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Empathy on Empty
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

Recommending people take Quercetin, vitamin D, C and zinc and live their lives just horrifying.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago

Get a blood draw, and get a complete work up done, it’s really the only way to know if you are deficient.

Then focus on local, organic , fresh fruit, foods and vegetables…we must try to stop being truckatarians…..

gogoat
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gogoat
2 years ago

You too, read much ?
This is how it works. Zinc is what kills things inside your cells that should not be in there (virus)
But it is not so easy to get in there. What the Quercetin and vitamin C does is make it easier for the Zinc to get in there and do its job killing the bad guys.
Did you know Quercetin is a milder, natural form of Hydroxychloroquine ?
Now you do.
It is always better to take care of your health in a natural way vs big pharma who makes money off you being sick.

https://www.aestheticsadvisor.com/2021/03/quercetin-work-like-hydroxychloroquine.html
Quercetin is vegetable based, natural.
I have not been sick in 15 years !!!
How about you ?

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

Frankly it is quite normal to get less bacterial or virus sicknesses as a person gets older. And quite normal for children to get many of them. There’s no magic connection to ‘natural ‘ living. It’s a function of ordinary immune systems having developed a library of diseases they have met and overcome over the years. “The immune system keeps a record of every microbe it has ever defeated, in types of white blood cells (B- and T-lymphocytes) known as memory cells. This means it can recognise and destroy the microbe quickly if it enters the body again, before it can multiply and make you feel sick.” Once this library a copy of diseases that might be normally met is large enough, then indeed a person gets infected but doesn’t experience symptoms.

It’s possible to have such a bad lifestyle that bodily functions can be severely impaired and sickness results. But this is rare outside of alcoholics or such. Mostly people hum along quite well until age impairs the system they had at birth. Even then they resist the old diseases but are slow to respond to new diseases. Hence covid’s hit on the elderly.

Besides, taking ‘natural’ supplements is really not so natural. How vitamin D pills are produced: “Vitamin D2 is manufactured using UV irradiation of ergosterol in yeast, and vitamin D3 is produced with irradiation of 7-dehydrocholesterol from lanolin and the chemical conversion of cholesterol.”
“Quercetin is currently prepared by acid hydrolysis of rutin, for example, by boiling with diluted HCl. This process yields quercetin and the monosaccharides d-glucose and l-rhamnose because rutinose bound to quercetin via the β-glycosidic linkage is completely hydrolyzed.”

Formerly 4T
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Formerly 4T
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

Thanks Gogoat. 🤙

Pharma shillin’ to follow….

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Old boomer
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Old boomer
2 years ago

British rock icon Eric Clapton released a new single slamming mandatory COVID injections called “This Has Gotta Stop.”
In the song, Clapton describes his frightening experience of taking the AstraZeneca jab earlier this year, where the injection left his hands temporarily paralyzed after the second shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNt4NIQ7FTA&feature=emb_logo
https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=60c921e9384b080b2bf5dc83

Clapton also released an anti-lockdown song with Irish singer Van Morrison in December 2020 called “Stand and Deliver.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cCJMrNZa8

AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  Old boomer

Nice songs, thanks boomer.

Craig
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Craig
2 years ago
Reply to  Old boomer

Good for Eric in voicing his concerns about covid vaccine side effects, and mandatory injections. Unfortunately for him in that he had to learn that one has to spin the wheel of misfortune, get the “jab(s)” , in order to see what level of adverse side effects that the covid vaccines bring.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Old boomer

AstreZenica is a viral vector vaccine. Moderna and Pfizer are mRNA vaccines. They are not the same . AstraZenica has transverse myelitis as a reported in their study. It is likely why it has not been approved in the US. Side effects from the vaccine are mostly temporary. And it is a not unusual side effect of covid itself only much more severe.

As usual anti vaxxers focuses on the rare instances where a problem possibly is related to a vaccine while blythly dismissing the much worse and more frequent ravages of the disease.

FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago

Keep spouting the BS. Meanwhile, the bodies are piling up in Southern Oregon just a couple hours up the road. They’re bringing in the reefer trucks because the morgues are full. This will be us in a couple weeks, unfortunately.

https://apnews.com/article/emergency-management-health-oregon-coronavirus-pandemic-b42f7c5eda03d264d35a96ba8a1db773

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

Lots of innocent people die, foggy, u can’t save the world, let alone make a convincing argument about how we got here.

It’s insane to see people kill themselves slowly by ignoring the mind body connection.

Should this be the image of health?

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago

It is not either/or. There is no equivalence between ” ignoring the mind body connection”, whatever you mean by that, and a vaccination.

Percy vs Goliath
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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Your rabid anti vax position will be used to usher in less freedom for everyone. Because you fail to recognize that disease cannot exist without mitigating factors which create an environment where disease can flourish.

I’m simply recognizing the vulnerability in our human population being exploited for profit.

Rabid anti vax for health.

Rabid anti fat for health.

It’s a shame that unhealthy people are the lions share of non acute trauma hospitalization in the US.

I’ll match your anti vax with anti obese, and I raise you by demanding a better way to penalize the willing participants of poor health.

Love, Percy

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Got logic ?
2 years ago

No more fact shaming. Obesity is driving this pandemic. The pro vaxxies can wiggle and squirm around that reality all you like, but I’m sorry to inform you the constant inflammatory state of the overweight and morbidly obese food addicts are why our hospitals are crushed right now, literally buried under adipose tissue and artery sludge.

My jab won’t convince the flabbies to skip dinner or get off their rumps.

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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Exaggerated but has some truth. Everyone not living the rigorous restricted life of these “you’re not infected, you’re just fat” fanatics needs to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

Of course they should get vaccined too as they are not immune either but then anyone who believes that a virus can not overwhelm their perfection is not going moved by rhetoric. Nor apparently by examples of the opposite.

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Unjabbed Guest
2 years ago

“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes.” Mark Twain

“In any event, it was a fact that a cancer-causing virus was present in the polio vaccines and that the government kept the public in the dark. This was done to avoid mass hysteria and to prevent the wrecking of the public’s confidence in medicine and vaccines in particular.”

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/what_the_polio_vaccines_can_teach_us_about_the_covid_ones.html

Empathy on Empty
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Empathy on Empty
2 years ago
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Unjabbed? More like Unhinged.
Problem with anti-vaxxers is they make shit up.

First of all I have known people that survived polio and it was a terrible thing. A friend of mine died in his late 60’s as a result of his childhood polio illness and it wasn’t cancer.

There is a long boring review of the polio/cancer issue below but the last word is “the polio vaccine and cancer — evidence suggests the contaminated vaccine in the 1950s and 1960s doesn’t cause cancer, but it’s difficult for scientists to rule out the possibility that it may have done so in a handful of people.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/did-the-polio-vaccine-cause-cancer/

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gogoat
2 years ago

Yes is does. I was born at the end of 64. My brother was born 2 years earlier. He got the said vaccine.
AND a mild case of polio.
They stopped giving out that vaccine that gave 90 some million Americans cancer in the time between our births.
I am healthy as can be. And my younger sister.
My brother got a type of leukemia, it was horrible. None in our family. Heart disease either. People die of old age in our family, good genes. No one could figure out where he got it. I found the cancer causing vaccine in question in doing research for Covid-19 vaccines .
Has a good ending though. My brother did not want to take the blood. He did though, 7 units. (why was he alive ?) It bought him enough time to get a stem cell transplant and someone else,s immune system. Cancer free 10 year.s now.
BTW, most “fact check” sites are garbage. They are there to keep people misinformed.

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gogoat
2 years ago

Yes is does. I was born at the end of 64. My brother was born 2 years earlier. He got the said vaccine.
AND a mild case of polio.
They stopped giving out that vaccine that gave 90 some million Americans cancer in the time between our births.
I am healthy as can be. And my younger sister.
My brother got a type of leukemia, it was horrible. None in our family. Heart disease either. People die of old age in our family, good genes. No one could figure out where he got it. I found the cancer causing vaccine in question in doing research for Covid-19 vaccines .
Has a good ending though. My brother did not want to take the blood. He did though, 7 units. (why was he alive ?) It bought him enough time to get a stem cell transplant and someone else,s immune system. Cancer free 10 year.s now.

Formerly 4T
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Formerly 4T
2 years ago

I was thinking the problem with big pharma and their parrots is “they make shit up”.

Albiet with the assistance of highly paid, well versed lawyers.

(and NGO’s of course)

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Prometheus
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Prometheus
2 years ago

Politics aside, get vaccinated or prepare to become seriously ill and possibly die. The decision is easy and the vaccines are safe.

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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
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Emotional attachment aside, how in the world do you think you have any place to give medical advice?

You do not, can not, and will not make any demands of other free people.

If you think you can, I’ve got a social credit score that will cut off unhealthy people’s ability to buy anything but nutrient dense food, and water. Things that promote health.

There will be a black market for dead food, because people will recognize the real danger to societies health, because people just don’t know how to take care of themselves.

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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago

As far as I can tell no one is arguing that eating healthily and reasonable exercise are a bad things. What makes this fixation of yours so miserable an attitude is the smug insistence on blaming people for getting an infectious disease. It is crippled thinking. You see that most people dying of covid are overweight. Well, most people you will see are overweight period. That is simply a commonality. And people so fixated on “right living ” as you are are rare. So you would see covid deaths among them rarely too.

Then you proceed to the Not a True Scotsman fallacy, where if a person who looks healthy dies, then they must have been living an unhealthy lifestyle anyway. But there have been enough of that rare group having become sick and even died that your insistence on it never happening is ludicrous. Now that is what others are arguing and changing the topic to suit your peculiar view is worse than useless.

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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

You can hyper focus on anti vax…and I’m just realizing that so many forget about the real world lack of health intelligence.

I totally understand your frustration with anti vax, but there’s so much blame to go around, I honestly wish we can tax the living shit out of the people who eat junk food, and I honestly believe the social credit score /passport will allow every human beings eating habits to be scrutinized.

If you want to go full technocracy, let’s do it.

Let’s restructure every unhealthy overweight persons life, by severely limiting their calorie intake.

Build back better!

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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

“What makes this fixation of yours so miserable an attitude is the smug insistence on blaming people for getting an infectious disease. It is crippled thinking. ”

Your words, not mine.

What makes one fixation any better/worse than another?

Got logic ?
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Got logic ?
2 years ago

AO,
So is there any personal responsibility when it comes to getting/recovering from an infectious disease? I believe it was you regaled us with a tale of a one year recovery/battle with the measlesz? Your mom failed to take responsibility .

I never dealt with strep throat in any of my children. Why? Because every minor cold /upper respiratory/congestive infection was treated early and prudently with a hygienic approach. Read: Back to Eden. Or Nature’s Children . Or any book on the benefits of fasting or raw food or juice therapies.

The notion that a child -or adult- needs to be eating solid food every damn day is a first-world obsession and it costs us dearly.

For if one were to but abstain from solid food, consume fresh and supportive liquids, and eat lightly from fresh and raw options as symptoms resolve, most infections resolve quickly without issue.

It’s the person stuffed full of pasta, dairy, meat, bread, milk, weird sugary drinks
and PANCAKES when they are ill that take a year to get over the measles. Or gets seriously ill/dies of the Covid.

I promise you the normal weight dude (or child )for whom some personal responsibility is being taken on how well viruses duplicate inside them; by abstaining from solid food at first sign of symptoms , taking high dose of vit C , copious supportive teas/liquids, keeping bowels open, hot cold water therapy , & sunshine and fresh air, they are NOT the ones on a freaking ventilator, or dying.

Some people would rather be on a ventilator than gargle with salt water lol

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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Got logic ?

Yes. There is. What there isn’t is a reasonable understanding that the real world does not operate in the way the way you think it does. A person who lives in a way you believe is responsible may still get sick and die. And person who lives in a way you think is irresponsible may live long and well. You offer guarantees that don’t exist and refuse to accept responsibility for result. It reminds me of General Ripper in the movie Dr. Strangelove, whose obsession with his own version of “supported liquids”- he called them precious bodily fluids- lead him to kill just about everyone.

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

You’re just saying words. I promise you real time, real life, not a movie, you fast, and treat with Nature’s Cures your way through ANY viral infection and chances are about zero you will end up on a ventilator. I’m not claiming you can combat cancer by abstaining from garbage and jumping in cold showers, but some will promise you that too.

…Oh ye of little faith .

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Not your test dummy
2 years ago

There is a big difference between dying from man made virus then dying with man made virus.

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Yeah,sure
2 years ago

When dealing with a loved one who contracted Covid and died, what you think is important is laughable. But do go on and beat that dead horse, it’s a good distraction for you…

Formerly 4T
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Formerly 4T
2 years ago
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How do you know they died with covid?

AA
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AA
2 years ago

Were the Monoclonal Antibody COVID-19 Infusions used on any of these patients?

FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago

Thank you for that disconnected, incoherent, string of statements and a question?

As far as I can tell you’re endorsing more innocent loss of life with a pinch of fat shaming thrown in for good measure. Way to keep it classy, Percy 😕

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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

It’s their way of not dealing with the reality.
With,of,from. Weight. Diet. Resistance.
It’s amazing how many anti vaxer radio talk show hosts have died. Hmmmmm.

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Percy vs Goliath
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

Plain fact, I think we all want better health, we just don’t agree on how that works in a free society.

There is so much information out there, but you, like many others, focus on one intersection of choice and completely disregard all the others, as the solution to this health crisis we are experiencing.

If you think mandating and bullying, belittling others works, Don’t be surprised when that tactic is used against your freedom of choice.

I truly believe we are in a health crisis, I just don’t believe you understand how we got here.

This tug of war of truth is a reflection of how human nature has always manifested within the social contract.

Don’t be lulled into supporting multinational billion dollar companies that have been profiting off human ignorance for decades.

Let’s bring back presidential fitness challenges for our children.

“Fresh air impoverishes the doctor.”–Danish proverb

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Got logic ?
2 years ago
Reply to  FogDog

The obese are hogging beds and resources. No more FACT shaming.

I'll just leave this here,
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I'll just leave this here,
2 years ago
Chris
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Chris
2 years ago

🎶 Another one bites the dust
– Queen

“The conservative Florida radio host who spoke out against Covid-19 vaccines died after a weekslong fight with the virus, marking the third radio personality to die from coronavirus who publicly rejected vaccines. The death of Marc Bernier, 65, who was a mainstay on talk radio in Daytona (Florida), was announced Saturday night …”
– via Politico story, today

No joy, in any of it 😢

gogoat
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gogoat
2 years ago
Craig
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Craig
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

Yes, well well.

“It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.”

Chris
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Chris
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

Then … go mask-free mingle away, yee-haw.

gogoat
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gogoat
2 years ago
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You know masks do absolutely nothing as far as keeping the wearer from getting Covid-19 right. They do keep the spittle from a sick person from spraying as far. But then, 6′ apart does not help either.
Lets see, a N-95 mask stops “some” virus particles. But do the math. N-95 means it can stop some particles 95 microns and larger.
But a virus, like Covid-19 are 2 microns. Huh, that makes even a N-95 mask like a chain link fence stopping a mosquito.
And those cheap surgical masks utterly useless.
AND they have done cultures of masks worn all day at school by children. They are a toxic cesspool. You child is actually more at risk wearing one. You too.
Do any of you think its a good idea to reduce the supply of oxygen to a child,s developing brain ?
By the time a kid is 7 years old they are who they are. Almost set in stone.
Think people, do the right thing.

Furies
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Furies
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

And that’s why doctors & nurses wear them, yeah??

gogoat
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gogoat
2 years ago
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You mean like when they wear them over a open wound.
https://luis46pr.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/cdc-report-admits-mask-wearing-provides-no-real-protection-against-covid/nd during surgery ?
Sure, helps with spittle getting into the would.
Look, studies have already been done. Masks and 6′ apart does not stop anything.https://luis46pr.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/cdc-report-admits-mask-wearing-provides-no-real-protection-against-covid/
https://www.businessinsider.com/6-ft-social-distancing-rule-exposure-indoors-2021-4?op=1
Read people.
The whole Covid-19 thing is a house of cards. The PCR test is garbage, massive false positives. There is a agenda going on. Its about CONTROL. Every single little bit of it.
Freedom rules !!!

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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

Like everything else in the really world, it’s a matter of how much. Not whether all virus is contained. There is plenty of both real world and laboratory evidence that face masks reduce the amount of virus that is released from a sick person. Maybe not all but enough to make a measurable difference in how many people are infected in their area. The mosquito/chain link fence is not an appropriate real world example. It’s more like a rock slide/chainlink fence. Some of the small rocks might make it through but the fence stops the vast majority of the whole avalanche getting through. Getting pelted with some small bits of virus, like getting hit with small rocks, leaves it possible for an immune systems to cope. While getting hit with a massive hit would overwhelm.

T. Laswell
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T. Laswell
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

Please tell me you dont have children.

gogoat
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gogoat
2 years ago
Reply to  T. Laswell

You are probably people who gives their children the jab. THAT equals child abuse.
Humans 19 and under have statistically ZERO chance of dying from Covid.
Now I am paraphrasing here, people from 20-45 have a 99.7 survival rate, people from 46-60 have 99.4 survival rate and even older have a 99+% survival rate.
Its a fact that this disease has a over 99% survival rate, not all that different than a bad flu season. Children have far more to worry about from the seasonal flu than Covid-19.
I keep medical grade HCQ on hand in case I get sick(but I never get sick) And save it with HCQ is dangerous, its not. been around for 70+ years and many people take it every single day for arthritis among other things. The Lancet study saying it could kill you was retracted.
Its all about BIG Pharma folks. Look at your TV, all the drugs being pushed. A patient should never, ever suggest to their doctor what drugs they need, ever.
Its all about money, follow the money. Pfizer, Moderna( who has never, ever brought a approved vaccine to the public, “till now”) have raked in 4-5 billion $ in profit in just the last quarter.
It is A FACT that children have far more to worry about taking the Covid jab and getting swelling of their heart than actually getting covid themselves.

cutommorrow
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cutommorrow
2 years ago
Reply to  gogoat

people who got vaccinated thought they were immune and walked among the unvaccinated and poof

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  cutommorrow

Nice try but no ceegar. Points for silliest theory so far.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago

🌳 🕯 BOO🖖🖖

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago

This has gotta stop!

bitchute.com/video/8ZxnstetBx4l/

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago

As I watched a bit of TV last night and specifically the commercials, the push was on to have the two jabs and a booster, a flu shot at the same time as the jab, a shingles shot, and a pneumonia shot as well as another booster jab every 5 months.
I wonder how we ever lived to be a planet of 6 billion people.
Of course, there were also the multitude of other drugs they tell you to ask your doctor about..
Then add your beer, aspirin, weed, antacid, zanex, meth, coke,etc. and people are walking pharmacies.

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T. Laswell
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T. Laswell
2 years ago
Reply to  HotCoffee

One reason we lived was because we started inoculating against Measles, Smallpox, Polio and the like. If you dont believe in the science, fine. I agree our society has become off the charts loony when it comes to prescription drugs, but I dont see how that has anything to do with a vaccine that can save your life.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago
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🕯🌳Most of the one’s you mention started off as a elderly decease then moved down to the younger generation just like the flu did. Maybe this is why the WHO and CDC are so concerned. 🖖🖖

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago

Id like to see that graph in 5 years…. mean reversion is rough