53 New Cases Reported Today
Press release from the County of Humboldt:
Fifty-three new cases of COVID-19 were confirmed in the county today. The total number of residents who have tested positive for the virus now stands at 6,341.
Five new hospitalizations were also reported, including one person in their 30s, one in their 40s, one in their 50s, one in their 60s and one in their 80s.
Humboldt County Public Health and other approved local vaccinators have administered a total of 142,480 doses of COVID-19 vaccine. Vaccination data on the Humboldt County Data Dashboard has been updated. Some highlights include:
- Local vaccinators have administered 1,946 doses since the last weekly report, with a majority of those being first doses.
- 70,324 Humboldt County residents are now fully vaccinated, representing 59.1% of the vaccine-eligible population age 12 or older and 51.7% of the county’s total population.
Due to record-high case volume, changes have been made to the Department Operations Center’s data dashboard to remove metrics that have become too time-consuming to track. The “Cases Cleared” metric, for example, is no longer being updated and will eventually be removed from the dashboard, because currently there is no efficient mechanism for determining a conclusion of illness for any particular individual.
Updates to “Transmission Type” have also been discontinued. Data show that the virus is widespread in our communities to the extent that it is frequently impossible to determine whether cases come from travel, contact to a known case, community spread or any other source.
Additional changes are planned, including an increased use of automation to update the dashboard and a migration from local to state data sourcing. Both are intended to allow Public Health staff to focus their energies on getting people vaccinated and ending this pandemic.
The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) on Wednesday announced new restrictions for indoor events with 1,000 or more people attending. Starting Sept. 20, participants will be required to show documentation of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test taken within 72 hours before the event. Self-attestation will no longer be allowed.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) also released a statement Wednesday about the plan to provide booster doses to maximize the protection of the vaccine and prolong its durability. While vaccines continue to protect against severe disease, hospitalization and death, health officials are seeing some evidence of waning protection against infection in association with the highly contagious Delta variant.
Pending authorization from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, booster doses will be offered eight months after the second dose of mRNA vaccines Pfizer and Moderna. The CDC also expects a second dose of Johnson & Johnson vaccine will be needed. Plans are being made to ensure that adequate infrastructure and supply will be available locally if the FDA approves boosters more broadly.
Third doses of mRNA vaccines are currently recommended for those who are moderately or severely immunocompromised. The third dose should be the same vaccine as the initial series and administered at least four weeks after completing a primary mRNA vaccine series. Those who want to know if a third dose is right for them should consult their primary care provider. For more information, visit cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/immuno.html.
Vaccine remains broadly available at this time and is the most effective way to prevent COVID-19. Vaccine is available at Public Health clinics located throughout the county, and walk-ins are welcome. To make an appointment in advance, go to MyTurn.ca.gov.
See the schedule of upcoming Public Health clinics below:
Ferndale – Friday, Aug. 20, from noon to 5 p.m.
Humboldt County Fair – main parking lot (1250 Fifth St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonCarlotta – Friday, Aug. 20, from 5:30 to 7 p.m.
Cuddeback Elementary (300 Wilder Road)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonMcKinleyville – Saturday, Aug. 21, from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.
Church of the Joyful Healer (1944 Central Ave.)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonFerndale – Saturday, Aug. 21, from noon to 5 p.m.
Humboldt County Fair – main parking lot (1250 Fifth St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonArcata – Sunday, Aug. 22, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.
Carlson Park (Mad River Pkwy. E)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonFerndale – Sunday, Aug. 22, from noon to 5 p.m.
Humboldt County Fair – main parking lot (1250 Fifth St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & JohnsonMost local pharmacies also offer COVID-19 vaccines, and many allow walk-ins. Visit vaccines.gov to check availability, or text a ZIP code to 438829 to find a participating pharmacy nearby.
The Pfizer vaccine is approved for children as young as 12 years old. Minors must be accompanied by a parent or guardian. The Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are authorized for those 18 and older. Full protection from the vaccine is achieved two weeks after receiving the second dose of a two-dose series or two weeks after receiving a single-dose vaccine.
View the Humboldt County Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download today’s data.
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Given the regular hospitalizations of people in their 30s, 40s, and 50s, we should dispense with the notion that COVID is only a danger for geezers.
Lol, what a waste of plastic
Agree… The plexiglass industry and the guys who install this stuff had a good year, but for my money, it’s a waste of resources for a minimum of protection… It’s also annoying, the shields make communications impossible, and it merely serves to further depersonalize commerce and social interaction…
Masks are about the same. Useless and stupid face-rags that hide us from each other while giving the illusion of protection…
These barriers are an accurate measure of incompetent government, their poor response, and the disastrous state of American healthcare in general…
Shields and masks are a poor substitute for effective care, adequate hospitals, and a population of folks who listen to recommendations and follow them…
Vaccine and COVID deniers have destroyed everything good about living in the USA, and have extended the grip the virus has on our society and our economy, while increasing the divisiveness of the American people.
As for the elders, we suffer in our retirement, unable to do anything besides shelter in the smoke, year in and out, and witness the destruction of our youth by drugs and marijuana, our society by maniacs fussing about “gene therapy” and “PCR cycles”, and our health by persons who are too foolish to get vaccinated.
Yea because health is definitely measured by vaccines I agree. What a sad state of affairs. I actually got in and iut burger before my first dose and plan on getting kfc right after my second, to celebrate my good decisions
Masks, (cloth, dental and n95) properly worn, are VERY effective at stopping the spread per all the infectious disease info I’ve seen and read.
Bandanas not so much.
Really? 🤔 Haven’t seen these?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-netherlands/dutch-government-will-not-advise-public-to-wear-masks-minister-idUSKCN24U2UJ
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-
VMG one could say that government sucks because of old people that let it get out of control
OH I think everyone let it get out of control…
The Hippies and Yippies used to advocate overthrowing the government, but then sinsemilla was invented and they all turned on, tuned in, and dropped out…
If you have a plan to stop the wealthy, corrupt, incompetent and nepotistic folks who run everything, then hey, bring it on…
Old people lack the energy to do much of anything, besides complain about how broke they are, how bad healthcare is, and how the young are disrespectful stoned and stupid…
My neighbors have 7 children, they all got covid. Hubby was in the hosp for 2 weeks, mom turned it quick. They got it at the christian fundamentalist church. He is 30 years old overweight and no vacc. It is not a joke, Anyone can get it, any age, any body mass. Why would anyone wait for it to hapoen to them, and their innocent kids? The opposition to vaxing is vexing.
So the unhealthy middle age adult got it the worst? Interesting that the kids all have it but we rarely see kids listed in the official stats. Is it that kids aren’t being tested? Is it that the parents aren’t willing to have the kids tested?
If people were truly interested in stopping this they would support the closure of schools. Let’s face it: kids are the perfect vectors! It’s always been that way so what’s different now? And most of them can’t even get the vaccine.
I don’t understand why the state is allowing 1000 person gatherings either if this is such a crisis. Seems the mix of politics (exemptions to the rules: ie no masks for vaccinated, cannabis farm “essential workers”, etc) and science will drag this on indefinitely.
If you look at the Humboldt County COVID dashboard they do list all cases by age groups.
Today the 0 – 9 year olds has 493 cases listed with a (+24) next to the cumlative number which I take to mean was added in the past 24 hours.
There are plenty of places to get accurate information if that is what one is looking for.
Interesting I’ll have to check that out. Thanks
Kids are being tested frequently, especially if they are in a daycare or camp situation and have ANY symptom. In order to return to daycare or camp they have to be tested. Speaking as a mom of multiple kids and as a healthcare worker. They just aren’t getting COVID. THANKFULLY.
Probably those that are practicing for fall sports as well.
testing…. yes, China wants your kids DNA… prolly nothing
God Bless the Organic
Why would China want American kids DNA? Are you saying there is a plot, and means by which DNA is being taken and shipped somewhere? Wow huge plot. You must have some compelling evidence of this vast conspiracy
Have you read Foreign Affairs Magazine?
China CCP is merely a front company for some bad hombres.
The problem we are faced with is our depth of field perception.
I’ll give you a hint.
Transgender and the entire agenda behind gender X is for the synthetic cross breeds which will make homo sapiens a near useless commodity.
That’s a weekly stat.
School’s were closed most of last year. Just how many years would you like school’s to be closed for?
As long as necessary for public safety. Do you care about the lives and safety of your kid’s teachers and other education staff, and children that they interact with? It sure doesn’t sound like it.
I think that no school is a much bigger threat to kids then the cov
Hey. You just 100% described me. Is this Connie?
Better start working out , i could lose about ten pounds myself.
[Oopsie! Shouldn’t make crude jokes about someone possibly in this thread!]
California covid stats under 35 , which is 20 million Californias, there has been 980 deaths with covid, over 60 years old ,which is 8 million Californias, there has been 53,000 deaths with covid, yeah its not an old geezer thing.
🕯🌳That thrideye is working well for you. 🖖🖖
That would take common sense and it’s in short supply.
The new mail in ballot variant is very deadly. Stay home and vote twice!
“Third doses of mRNA are currently recommended”. By whom? Joe Biden? W.H.O disagrees.
WHO said no boosters cause poor countries aren’t getting hardly any of the first round. You should read up rather than parrot what you here from the Fox.
Yes but, in Biden’s state of mind, how many jabs will joe recommend by end of year? 6 or 7? Not saying vaccine doesn’t work but joe wants to jab his way out of everything! By the way, did I see a report today that covid breakthrough cases carry a higher viral load and therefore may become superspreaders? Yikes.
however many “The Big Guy” wants you to take… Thats how dope dealing works.
The numbers are real, real bad for the boomer generation.
Just in case anyone is curious, the 17 and under crowd has experienced 30 related deaths to covid, they represent the same amount of population as the over 60 crowd. So 30 deaths under 18 and 53000 in California over 60. Who needs to get vaccinated and chance long term affects from the vaccine should be very clear. Now quit pushing your experimental drugs boomers ,off to the care home you go.
Now let’s see, 17 and under experienced 30 + 60 then the 30 again with an 18 and throw in a big number (53000) and multiply by these here 60 and we get, we get, we … get another somebody under 30 who thinks he/she has done it all and has it all figured out.
Why, if I had a nickel for ….
Sorry I tried to make it as simple as possible, over 60 year old crowd, 53000 deaths related to covid. Under 18 crowd, 30 deaths related to covid, those are California official website numbers, truth hurts, kids don’t need to be vaccinated.
Did you consider the possibility that number is low because shools have been closed keeping the virus from running rampant from school children?
Also, one death in exchange for one job is bad public policy. I would rather keep the deaths as low as possible, even if it means I will lose my job.
Ages 30 to 60 is where we’re seeing an unprecedented rise in hospitalizations and deaths. Those are the prime child-rearing and earning years, where nobody wants to be experiencing the long-term or perhaps permanent debilitating effects of severe COVID illness.
Since you love the flu comparison so much, how many years have we had over 130 flu hospitalizations and deaths for those 59 and younger in Humboldt? And when have we ever seen a severe outbreak of flu in the middle of summer?
130 deaths, never, not even this year Mr. Exaggerated, not even close. What we got ? Like 3 lol? 130 give me a break, crack me up, where you get this sheet?
You overlooked “hospitalizations and deaths among those 59 and under.” You should read more carefully before you respond.
Oh I read it and regurgitated it the antimedia way , took the drama right out of your paragraph . Still only 30 deaths in 2 years in California for the under 18 group, lamedemic for them ,,they had 60 from 2017 flu, ridiculous, send them back to school.
So what do you think is the standard we should use for determining the severity of a disease? This particular disease seems like its been maybe 7x as deadly as a typical flu, maybe 3x a really bad flu season, should this be the standard that (once crossed or suspected) tips us into lockdowns?
Should we set the standard lower? Maybe 3x regular flu season suspected by public health should trigger shut downs?
I’m always curious to hear honest opinions about the topic
Quantifying the relative spread and mortality of flu and COVID is difficult. The big problem is that most flu cases are not reported, only the very serious ones where somebody, usually elderly, goes to the hospital or dies. Maybe epidemiologists have some way of estimating how many unreported cases there are. We have some data for comparison during the lockdown flu season, when flu cases were way low because of the anti-COVID measures. 1911 below just provided a fine example of invalid use of statistics when he tried to compare 2017 flu statistics, with no protective measures and for an undefined but most likely elderly cohort, with 2020 COVID statistics with protective measures and for a younger cohort. The number of hospitalizations and deaths from COVID among the younger cohort, compared with the trivial number of such cases for flu, indicates a stark difference in the risk of serious illness or death between the two.
So you don’t want to answer the direct question.
But you brought up another question I often find I have. How much do you think that our measures reduced covid cases? You seem to believe that the 90% reported reduction in flu cases and deaths resulted from masking, distancing, and broad social closures. So what percentage of the potential covid infections, had we done nothing, is represented by the 90 million infections that we apparently saw in 2020?
In 2017 there were 28 flu related deaths in 12 months. I didn’t find hospitalizations. But considering the flu doesn’t appear to be around in the summer, it was more like 28 flu deaths in 8 months. If you extrapolate those numbers it appears that the flu is just as deadly as Covid in humboldt county.
bazinga !
You overlooked “among those 59 and younger,” You should read more carefully before you respond.
How did I overlook anything? I stated the number of total flu deaths in Humboldt in 2017 and compared that to the total number of Covid deaths in Humboldt for 2020 and 2021.
If I were a betting man, I would bet that more children died of the flu in 2017 than Covid in 2020-2021 in Humboldt. The data is just not there, so I can neither prove you wrong nor can you refute my argument. Unfortunately nobody cared enough to do a complete breakdown of hospitalizations for the flu in 2017.
The flu is allowed to run rampant. If we treated COVID identically to the flu, we’d have thousands dead. Your comparison is bad and you should feel bad.
What percentage of potential covid infections do you think we avoided in 2020?
LR, your comments are misguided, silly and insulting, but remember:
In 20-30 years, when the “Boomers” are mostly gone, YOU will be the “geezer”…
If you live that long…
Like Howard Hughes said: “It’s a dirty world, and if you give it half a chance, it will kill you dead…”
With your attitude, son, many bad things could happen to you.
Adjust your set, try listening and not being so rude.
Get vaccinated, it couldn’t hurt and it might improve your stay on this planet…
Hey, Flu Shots don’t always prevent the Flu, Pneumonia shots don’t always prevent Pneumonia, Tetanus shots pretty much work, Polio Vaccine eliminated most Polio…
Next week, new disease…
It’s all about the odds… Life is unfair, and later, we all will die.
Why take chances with your health? Prevent the diseases you CAN prevent, and maybe they won’t cause your early death…
I’ve gathered Lone Ranger might be on the young end of the boomer generation, or at least on the cusp.
The funny thing is once y’all destroy the childhood of the kids and they look to exact their revenge on the elderly, you all will be dead and it will be my generation that has to deal with the 30 year olds that don’t care about the elderly.
It’s ok, your generation is literally presiding over the collapse of the US and the rise of a Post-American world. I’m getting ahead of the curve though, I have my son listening to children’s books in Mandarin.
👍😆
You are correct, I will die sooner or later but probably the sooner. I like dangerous activities that could be deadly ,omg. I treat my body poorly, no sleep all work , omg. I never go to the doctor ,omg. Very crazy lifestyle huh? Can’t believe I’m still around, the facts are simple on the corona , it is a deadly virus for
the boomer generation , and no more dangerous than the flu for the younger crowd.
OH I think we all thought we wouldn’t last, and the adage that “if knew I would live this long, I would have taken better care of myself” applies to every generation…
Nobody cares about older people right now, and the young treat the old as an irritant, something to ignore, when they should listen and have some respect…
Nothing changes, but your conception of the COVID problem is misguided…
You are expected to be the advocate for your own health, and if you need a doctor, you will encounter the rough and uncaring edge of our terrible healthcare system…
Someday you will get a hernia, a broken arm, testicular cancer, or a bad virus!!
Sickness will come to everybody, so preserve your health! Also, life is a short experience, so enjoy something today…
Vaccines are a result of years of research and development! Refusing them is like insisting on driving a 1938 International Pickup, because it was good enough for your Great Uncle Jim…
Be careful out there, and getting vaccinated is like splitting a pair when the odds are good!
Be well guys!
VMG,
If getting vaccinated couldn’t hurt, why did it put a lady I know in the ER? (She works in healthcare).
Maybe extending the expiration dates on the vaccinations wasn’t such a good idea after all.
They were supposed too shit can them at the end of July.
Maybe they should have.
And there you go again, throwing around the “Prevent” word all haphazardly.
You should really be 100% honest and make it crystal clear that the vaccine does not prevent Covid19.
And spare the B.S., folks, about how it “may reduce transmission to an unknown theoretical degree” somehow excuses the word “Prevent” being used in regards to what the vaccine does as far as Covid19 is concerned.
BS double speak comes ssstraight from a forked tongue.
I despise deception.
It obviously does not Prevent Covid19.
There are obvious risks.
If getting people vaccinated is truly your goal, you’d be way, way more successful, if you would actually
level with them, and skip the half truths.
Do you happen to know if the woman you know had her case reported to vaers?
I hope she’s doing well
thatguyinarcata,
No I don’t know if it was reported to VAERS.
And thank you for your consideration, I also hope she is doing well.
She is an important part of our health care system, and she is very dedicated and kind.
Well all the more reason to hope for her speedy recovery.
I hope that one thing that is made clear to people from this whole last.few years is the need for a more robust local health system. Including more personal accountability for individuals for our own personal health as well as some basic training in first aid for infectious disease.
There are non prescription protocols that can be employed at the first sign of symptoms or even just if there is the suspicion of exposure that can improve one’s odds of avoiding severe infection, and we should all become acquainted with them.
Here it is folks…your daily dose of fear,for a virus with a 99.9 survival rate. Don’t forget to wear your double face diaper and hide in your house. You know this is never going to end!!! the pharmaceutical cartels and your government would never lie to you!!!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Doesn’t look like 99.9 down there in San Antonio where they’re backing up reefer trailers to handle the dead folks.
🕯🌳You can’t talk or show common sense to some of these people Jim they live in a book of Ghetto Rumors or Conspiracy Theories but there are some here that are informational and good at it. 🖖🖖
Weed trailers ? For keeping the gummies cold?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/17/texas-mortuary-trailers-covid-surge/
It doesn’t look like they are actually using the trailers. There may still be two at the airport here in Humboldt. Anyone know?
Gee, duh, has anything from the wirld of med science contributed to a high survival rate?
Tick, tock, tick, tock …
Gong!
sorry but no good answer from the avenue, your time is up.
Next!
Where do you get 99.9? It is actually 98.03. So just about 2% of the US population has died from this virus. Mostly older folks. Hope you don’t get treated the way folks seem to be treating the seniors today when you get old and grey. Oh yeah and 1 in 10 Americans have contracted Covid, so far, and who knows how many are going to have long term effects from that.
I don’t think anywhere near 2% of the US has died from Covid. That would be over 6 million people. The last number I saw was 626 thousand (or about 2/10 of one percent).
That’s the kicker. Long-term effects of severe cases are going to have a huge price, both individually and socially.
Long term effects, crack me up, what happens in life that doesn’t have a long term effect?
OK, Mr. Genius-in-his-own-mind, what else in life is equivalent to the long-term debilitating effects of a severe COVID illness? Should we also not take the long-term effects of severe accident injuries seriously because of so many other things with long-term effects?
The jab?
Incorrect, 0.18 percent of the population has died from coronavirus
If you are talking about positive pcr test covid infections the percentage is 1.62.
But you must remember that most people that have been infected with covid have not been tested so even that number is inaccurate and obviously wrong.
You got it Me: With the bs “test”, numbers are all skewed.
Umm . Fake news. 650000 is not 2% of 350000000 try again
My bad. Missed a 0. With the numbers I am working with it is .02 percent. So 99.8.
2% of the US population huh? You want to check your math? The population of the US is 330,000,000.
Your telling me that 6.6 million people have died in the United States? Wow we suck. So 6.6 million have died in the United States and 3.5 million have died in the rest of the world. So you are telling me that Covid has killed 10.1 million people worldwide?
It’s funny how the majority of people who attempt to push fear and believe this Covid crap can’t even spell or do math. No wonder y’all are so easily manipulated by the MSM. Kym was a teacher, so that crap must really drive her up a wall. Hey Kym you should add an addendum to your rules: those participating in debate should at minimum be able to read, write, and do basic arithmetic before posting!
It’s your site but it would be funny to see how many commenters would be dropped if that rule change were added.
Is your post error free? Glass houses.
Is it not?
Oh I see, I could’ve added a comma in a spot or two. I was referencing how many misspellings there are in many peoples’ posts. Splitting hairs much? From now on I will make sure my punctuation is on point too, just for you. Are you an English teacher though? Will you be able to correct the structure of my sentences for me?
I’m sure HCPH doesn’t like being called a misinformation gang. They are a formal department.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm
One of the more strident of the covid cult recently left this link in a(nother) failed effort to prove vaccines work better than natural immunity. The problems with the misleading link/study are many. For one, it was not a test of the vaccinated vs natural immunity, everyone in the test had covid prior (This kind of lying is why people don’t trust the Faucci Beagles). The people without vaccinations (after covid) supposedly were more likely to catch it again. However we know little about the other parameters of the test, such as the PCR cycle threshold, was it the same in both groups etc. You can watch the real facts here at about 17 minutes:
https://youtu.be/O0nAqgQafhQ
At about 19 minutes there is a link to a more comprehensive study THAT DID NOT REACH THE SAME CONCLUSION.
Ignore the covid cult who HAVE NO IDEA how many people have died or been badly hurt in these clinical trials with an experimental drug and are NEVER able to answer that question. If you cannot answer those questions, you have ZERO moral authority and you should STFU!
Yes, all the experts don’t know what they’re doing, but some guy on youtube has THE REAL FACTS!
I immediately discounted your argument when you mentioned cycle counts, because the accuracy of PCR tests is so well established that anyone who insinuates otherwise can be dismissed without further consideration.
And, of course, it demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of how the study was conducted or what data was used. They didn’t test anyone – it was pulled from data in a big database, with tests ran by hundreds of different agencies using different brands of tests with different procedures, with no foreknowledge of whether patients were previously infected or vaccinated. Was this lack of understanding due to bullshit spouted by the guy on youtube? I’m not going to waste my time watching it, so maybe I’ll never know. Oh well.
The study seems to test exactly what it claims to test. If you’ve been infected with covid, you should still get vaccinated, because you’re much less likely to be re-infected if you do.
The number of people who have been badly hurt or died is, according to all measures I’ve seen, quite low. If you want an exact number (17 people have died! not 16 or 18!), you’re not going to get that.
“Yes, all the experts don’t know what they’re doing,”
Problem is you think Faucci is “the expert”. Guy on youtube links to actual experts
“because the accuracy of PCR tests is so well established”
Hey, you’re finally right about something. It has been established to be highly INNACCURATE at cycles over 30 to 35. New England Journal of Medicine expert enough far ya?
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2027040
Hey how’s your “covid came naturally from a Pangolin” theory workin out for ya? Oooooops!
What the fuck is wrong with my response Kym Kemp???????
rollin
August 20, 2021 10:13 am
“Yes, all the experts don’t know what they’re doing,”
Problem is you think Faucci is “the expert”. Guy on youtube links to actual experts
“because the accuracy of PCR tests is so well established”
Hey, you’re finally right about something. It has been established to be highly INNACCURATE at cycles over 30 to 35. New England Journal of Medicine expert enough far ya?
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2027040
Hey how’s your “covid came naturally from a Pangolin” theory workin out for ya? Oooooops!
What the heck is wrong with me spending time with my mother, rollin? Is it just her you hate or all mothers in general?
…sigh, I really should be more professional but you do tend to get under my skin.
Sometimes…I have a life. Once a week, usually Friday, I spend time with my mother. And then you have to wait.
Dadgumit Kym! Why must you spend time with your mother instead of us? Do you find her more interesting and lovable or something? For f$&ks sake!
Family First.
You both got my respect.
🤔🧐I’m not sure who is luckier, you, or your mom?😁
I’d say it’s about equal.⚖️
Pretty cool that you two are
still so close. Must be nice.
Hat tip to you both.
C,mon, Kym! Friday is a terrible day to visit your mother!
Friday is the last day we get a daily COVID Report and we all get to sit scared and panicked in our hovels over the weekend until the NEXT round of numbers come out. (Think about that… if this is such a serious pandemic, why aren’t health officials working around the clock, 24/7, 7 days a week to keep us updated?)
Friday is the last day of the week that all of us point fingers at the others and say, “You’re wrong, I’m right.”
Friday is the last day of Groundhog Day. Until Monday Groundhog Day.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Not peer-reviewed and smaller sample size. FALE.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html
https://swprs.org/the-trouble-with-pcr-tests/#https://swprs.org/the-trouble-with-pcr-tests/
Old news but you can start there. Then we can get into peer-reviewed studies.
Dear Dr. Schlock,
If the majority, just barely (a guy fiery burger-squeaker of a barely) of eligible Humboldt residents have gotten the vax, wouldn’t that imply we are over the hump with the virus?
– Donald, from take-a-left-after-the-BigTree-but-b4-the-broke-growdozer.
Well, Donald, it is past Wednesday so, technically, we are indeed over one kinda hump, and, but, altho other humps have begun to mount, the answer to your question is a resounding NO. My advice is to take two, two of anything, but don’t call me mourning.
– Dr. Schlock
Where’s my comment? I’ve seen the light
So…since the numbers are coming down then I guess we are over the surge that was predicted to be over in two weeks? Just going on what happened in other areas like Great Britain. Not saying anything other than it seems like we are following the same trend seen in other places. I think that the fear mongerers don’t want it to ever stop but…look to other places that had surges of delta infections and then declines. Or live in your rabbit hole and seize on every piece of info that supports your desire to whip up fear and judge and control others….it’s a sick thing that people do, doesn’t make it okay
One data point does not a trend make.
Ok yoda….
I don’t understand either. It’s almost like their is a group of people who wishes there were mass casualties and people dying in the streets. Hoping that people are suffering from life long complications. Almost like they wish people were so terrified that they would be hiding in their homes, clutching their TP, waiting to take any experimental medication that is foisted on them because the virus is so deadly. I have gathered that there are people who really want the worst possible scenario to happen, all because it would justify their position on the extreme measures for covid.
I really really really can’t wrap my head around that one. Isn’t it a good thing that the majority of people survive without any sort of medical intervention and are free from long-term complications? Isn’t it a good thing that people under 18 are statistically unaffected? Isn’t it better that if a virus were going to kill anyone, that it takes out the old and weak rather than children and babies?
“I have gathered that there are people who really want the worst possible scenario to happen, all because it would justify their position on the extreme measures for covid”
It is the nature of the Faucci cult and left wingers in general, who seek to control your life and call it “democracy”.
No. It is not a good thing. If the vast majority did, that would be a good thing. But, for a group that whizzes on and on about the unknown long term consequences of a vaccine, they are pretty good at ignoring the long term consequences that can come with a virus.
Like HPV, herpes, chicken pox, HIV, HCMV,etc, some viruses are never cleared from the body. Sometimes they hide out in places like the eyes where the immune system can’t reach them and sometime they are so close to the bodies own cells that the immune system can’9t identify them.
Besides there are indeed surges. And once a pretty stable population has had most of its vulnerable infected, there is a drop in new cases. Until the immunity wanes or a new variety comes along. Then, like the flu, it surges again. Eventually the population either develops a longer lasting immunity or the virus mutates into something less problematical or the virus mutates into something really virulent which drastically reduces the population or it becomes a chronic endemic that saps the civilzation’s vitality and it falls to some group that is more vigorus. The virus spontaneously totally disappearing is possible but that rarely happens.
You’d think a group of conspracy theorists who come up with prophetic doomsday scenarios that never happen on constant basis- like everyone who get vaccinated is going to die because it’s part of an Agenda 21 plot- could manage to spare a little fretting over a disease that actually does kill and they think was deliberately engineered by China. Oh well. Common sense was never part of that scenario.
Don’t worry AO.
Here’s your dream come true…..
COVID variants won’t wait — we need to fund better vaccines ASAP
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/568776-covid-variants-wont-wait-we-need-to-fund-better-vaccines-asap
The DNA versions should be just what you ordered. BUT will you ever feel safe.
30 kids have died in California with COVID-19. 53000 boomers have died with covid in California. When you have such a big elderly group, your gonna have alot of deaths every year from pneumonia.
Just making a point about trying to push the younger crowd to get vaccinated, it no deadlier than the flu for young people, and the flu has the same long term effects. Hard to argue with the numbers, Kym also mentioned that repetitive learning always worked for her.
it’s no deadlier then the flu, until the next variant
Successful viral mutations are typically less deadly.
Some, like polio, never read the self help book on How to Infect Millions Without Really Killing. They sometimes become more virulent. Like the Delta variant. And a lot of people can die waiting for them to get the message.
Stop comparing covid to polio for Christ sake.
Why not? The Delta variant is a good example of a more virulently contagious mutation.
But deaths are falling. More virulent does not equal more deadly. Most viruses mutate to become more virulent and less deadly. Yes the delta is more virulent, and it was around before the vaccine or any of this anti-vaxxer nonsense that y’all spew. So was the lambda variant.
Why did the pharmaceutical companies release vaccines that didn’t work for variants of the virus that existed before the release of said “vaccines?” And why did they get an EUA when there were already two variants in existence that they didn’t work against?
Deaths have been rising. The current seven day average is almost 800 deaths in the US per day–roughly what it was early last October before the winter surge started happening. And much higher than the number of deaths in early July about 240 per day at its lowest.
How much natural antibodies equal a vaccination?
🕯🌳Good question mir? The other day unjabbed marine said he had it twice. Kind of puts a hole in that immunity thing. 🖖🖖
Flies in the face of my experience. I’m sure if that were a common thing or true that their would be studies jumping on that and the MSM would be pushing it hard. Silence on that front from those sources though so I have a hard time believing it.
Did I miss Groundhog Day???
Meanwhile, with the covid diversion, joe was able to fulfill one of his biggest promises
You do realize Biden was carrying out a process Trump started, right? And that Trump was the one inviting Taliban leadership to get chummy with him at Camp David, right?
Is there a problem with the former Leader of the Free World bringing leaders of the Taliban to the US to look them in the eye and tell them what he is going to do or not do? That’s the way negotiations should be held. Negotiations should definitely not be held via a Zoom meeting from Joe Biden’s basement in Delaware!
The good news is that now Biden and the Democrats cannot implement gun control measures in the US. Now we’re going to need even more weaponry to protect ourselves from terrorists that were handed billions of dollars of munitions, aircraft and military vehicles that we paid for (with our tax dollars, since the left seems to think it’s just free money)
Always a silver lining! Might as well end restrictions in the US on fully automatic weapons, grenades, shoulder launched missiles and the like. Why would the Democrats give those types of weapons free to a terrorist organization but deny free citizens of the US access to these types of weapons?
“Why would the Democrats give those types of weapons free to a terrorist organization but deny free citizens of the US access to these types of weapons?”
It’s simple. Liberalism is a mental disorder!
I’m usually considered a liberal, and I fully support the second amendment, including the right to own fully automatic weapons. Maybe you should come up with a different argument, instead of repeating your same soundbite over and over?
🕯🌳In 20yrs 2,500 US military personnel were killed, 4,000 private contractors were killed, 69,000 civilians were killed and 51,000 opposition fighters were killed the Afghan war coast 300,000 million dollars a day to keep going. Do want to send more sons,daughters, father’s and loved to an endless war to die. Waist more of your Taxes dollars on war that can’t be won? Why didn’t the Afghan army fight back when the Taliban started to take control? We and other countries spent 20yrs training them and they went belly up at the sign of having to fight for themselves. 🖖🖖
Nope. Don’t want any more of our sons and daughters dying to fight ANY endless war in ANY shithole country ANYWHERE in the world ever again, Willie.
You brought up an even stronger argument buttressing why American free citizens and the rightful leaders of the US should be allowed their constitutional right to own any weapon they see fit:
The only Americans that need die from here on out are the Patriots that die defending this country against would be aggressors and communists within.
No more foreign wars. US money, backed by gold and silver as mandated in the constitution, and US troops will not be going anywhere!
Thank you for the supporting remarks!
They don’t need afghan tar anymore cuz we can just make fentynal on labs for mass use.. duh. Oh but msm will never help paint the wrong picture to sell a war
They don’t care how many people die of covid or how much the sick and hospitalized people cost the economy, so why would they care how many of our sons and daughters die and how much the war costs the economy? Some people really just don’t care about anything but themselves.
Bushytails, tell me again about the vaccine casualties, and how much you care about all of them.
Or wait, tell me again, how as far as your concerned, they don’t even exist.
I think all deaths matter.
And all injuries. Just so you know.
Who is the Commander in Chief?
The Big Guy didn’t have any problem halting things like border walls and oil pipelines.
thats classified. Sorry…now go buy stonks and take your tequila shots
Biden just can’t do enough for Russia, China and Iran.
They just got more than their moneys worth from Hunter, and our next generation will curse you for it.
Just think, Now China can add all those poppies to their drug scourge.
And you can beg China for that rare earth to run your electric cars.
All that care about women BS.
The trust of our allies, gone.
So, much damage done, I don’t even want to think about it.
Suddenly CNN and MSLSD calls out their golden boy, why?
Watch out.
It’s not what you do it’s how you do it.
That’s the fortunate thing about the Afghanistan situation. One President made the agreement with the Taliban, the other implemented it. Had Trump been re-elected, I’m sure the Democrats would be the ones getting hysterical and shitting their pants. Based on past patterns, Trump probably would have been forced to retreat from the agreement under domestic political pressure. As it is, Biden has a simple riposte for all the Republicans getting hysterical and shitting their pants: Trump made the agreement and I needed to carry it out.
My main worry now is the domestic political pressure on Biden to look tough in the aftermath of the Afghanistan situation. The Taiwan issue desperately needs a political solution before it boils over, and any effort to seek one could be derailed by Republican blithering.
Biden is compromised, his son, and his brother, cut deals with communist countries that left the big guy with no chips to play, but plenty of cash. Now the free world will pay back the Biden’s debt.
Big Tech and media have been complicit.
That kind of blither is an example of the problem.
The problem is the truth is called blither. Very 1984.
why is distance learning not being reimplemented? covid transmission is way up from the first time it was used.
we learned a lot from doing DL last year and if improvements are made then it’s the safest solution for students and school employees.
Because that would require a scientific approach and the covid policies are dominated by politics. The public can’t make that sacrifice. I witnessed the chaos as parents tried to teach and it was crazy. So bad they had to change the grading system and allow for a Pass/No pass instead of a traditional grade.
I really do feel for the parents who have to work and therefore no one’s around to teach the kids. It’s a terrible situation but so is closing many businesses, cutting off people’s income and destroying all hope.
Half measures will yield muddled results and we should expect more of the same in the future.
***BY DESIGN***
This is what a controlled demolition looks like.
This modern warfare has been layered and woven into a series of compounding attacks on just about every facet of our society that forms the bond that has held one of the best examples of self governing peoples.
Nullify unconstitutional rules , regulations, codes, and work hard to recognize where we are headed.
(Argentina wasn’t that long ago, nor far away.)
👍Thanks MA.
Anyone who wants to distance learn can, right here.
https://www.khanacademy.org/
How many of the 53 new cases were vaccinated?
Stop asking questions!
Good question.
Hello Commenters: Again there are some good articles on RENSE.com. There is video of peoples blood after the jab and if it’s for real then I would say it looks very scary. There are articles about other countries finding graphene oxide in these jabs—-that’s not good either!!! I don’t know what the truth will finally look like in the end BUT I’m gonna keep on looking for it. Myself and my pet mice (yin/Yang) are still waiting for the human trials to last a little bit longer. Every day/week there are more bad findings coming out against this jab. I hope this post might help you decide to get the jab or not.
Yep, that looks like a reliable source of solid information. From his Wiki bio.
“Jeffry Shearer Rense is an American radio talk-show host. His show, the Jeff Rense Program, was broadcast via satellite radio and is now released through his personal website.[1]
Rense’s radio program and website propagate conspiracy theories, including those of 9/11 conspiracists,[2] ufologists and advocates of the paranormal, the creation of diseases, chemtrails, evidence of advanced ancient technology, emergent energy technologies, and alternative medicine.
Rense’s writings and website have been deemed pro-Nazi and antisemitic by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center.[3][4]”
Are the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center official government agencies?
If not, they can be counted on to push an agenda that may not be what you think it is, Tim.
Rense is 100% bullshit and always has been.
“9/11 conspiracists,[2] ”
Families of victims are still trying to get the full report, unredacted, from the 911 commission exactly because we have never gotten the true story.
“ufologists and advocates of the paranormal, ”
The US military has now openly acknowledged the presence of what they call UAP, affirming the reality of what we have commonly known as UFOs
“the creation of diseases,”
Is happening, increasingly openly, delicate semantic dances aside
“chemtrails, ”
Stratospheric aerosol spraying. Again, openly acknowledged as ongoing by a number of governments. Also, commercial weather modification by aerial spraying is available to agricultural concerns
“evidence of advanced ancient technology, ”
The giza structures, baalbek, Inca construction, ankytheria machine, Baghdad battery, seems like there may be some ancient technology we haven’t understood yet
“emergent energy technologies”
Only reason to dismiss the possibility is a powerful bias toward newtonian physics, which is an aged paradigm that is slowly being amended as scientific progress plods along.
, “and alternative medicine.”
If you haven’t seen the need for additional modalities of health care in this country you are either wilfully ignorant or fabulously wealthy.
Geez, I hadn’t thought about the name Rense in years, but you’re making it sound like dude is really on the ball…
How much you guys want to bet there’s a high percentage of people in here who have newer names that have never been seen on these forms before recently and who only post on vaccine posts are actually paid by the pharmaceutical industry to push this drug on us and swing conversation to be in favor of vaccinations rather than allowing us to continue the natural questioning of things.
How do you sleep comfortable at night? You should be the ones living in fear.
“A vaccinated Florida man died of covid-19. His obituary begs others to get the shots.” (From today’s MSN).
“Public Health is urging residents who have yet to do so to get their COVID-19 vaccines, as it is the only protection against severe illness and death from the virus.”
“He was infected by someone who chose not to get vaccinated and his death was preventable.”
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/08/19/in-obituary-for-a-vaccinated-man-daughters-share-anger-and-a-plea/
It is not the only protections why do you want to peddle this recurring lie? It may be A protection, but not the only.
Hilariously out of touch! He was 84. Obviously overweight. And had COPD!
And most telling , was after the dude was released from hospital -then readmitted – he complained about his lack of food intake mentioning “nothing since his ‘ Monday morning pancake.'”
Monday pancakes are Thursdays intubation tube!
Ffs. The way ppl treat illness with KFC, pancakes, 7up and Skittles it’s a wonder
that anybody has recovered.
You all can blame the unvaxxed, but others getting a shot will never impart any wisdom in anyone else. And that’s what’s lacking.
Starve a fever.
Starve a cold.
Fast/pray.
Early treatment is key. At first sign of illness prudent lifestyle consuming liquids, and minimal food from LOW on the food chain. Hot cold water therapy. And supplementation.
Processed garbage –like pancakes! –gives you garbage for an immune response.
Auntie Ovine,
That quote is one of the his daughters assumptions. There is no evidence of what either of you suggest, it’s speculative and accusatory. Unscrupulous even.
The man was 84 and in an assisted living arrangement, with pulmonary co-morbidity. One foot in the grave.
He was over it, pulling his IV’s, etc.
He might have lived if he had wanted to. He didn’t. He was isolated before he was hospitalized, on lock down at times, at the care home. He didn’t want to be a burden to the system, or to anyone else. Sounded like a real fine man.
It’s more understandable for the family to try and place blame on the unvaccinated, than for you to.
For anyone to try and sensationalize, or marginalize, a man’s death, or anyone’s death, in order to further an agenda or some dogma, is shameful, and is clearly without conscience. I am appalled.
Especially when the facts are twisted. Difficulty breathing was his baseline before he got Covid19.
He had lung issues,etc.
Did you miss that, or did you just gloss over it in your overly zealous quest to disparage and dehumanize the unvaccinated? That is unethical.
It was only an imaginary scapegoat that was supposedly unvaccinated.
Clearly a disconnect from a reality.
You infer it was from a known, close contact, confirmed to be actually unvaccinated. So untrue, Auntie O.
So untrue.
I would tell you your evidence is thin, but that would be totally exaggerating way too far towards the heavy side. Your evidence, is to thinness, like thinness is, to obesity.
It is way beyond non-existent.
You show this man much disrespect,
just in order to further your agenda.
I despise deception.
It makes me sick.
Now that was a whole string of nonsense. You dismiss his death, make a joke out of his children and complain I disrespected him? You want instead the the litany of the unvaccinated who are in the hospital? There are so many of them.
“”I was inconsiderate and stupid and dumb for not getting the vaccination,” Johnson told First Coast News. “If I had somebody to talk to me and explain to me the importance of the vaccine and all of that, I probably would have got it.”” Or…
“And for Andres, he hopes others will use his story as an example and get the vaccine.”
Or… ““I will always regret that I listened to the misinformation being put out there,” she said. “They’re creating fear.””
Or… ““I don’t ever want to have to do this again,” she said, “and if that means getting a vaccination to prevent something like this, that’s what I’ll do.””
https://www.khou.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/covid-patient-urges-vaccine-icu-scare/285-3fb5518d-f9af-41a8-a448-f6009fa6cbbc
https://www.newsweek.com/unvaccinated-covid-patient-re-learning-walk-urges-vaccination-florida-1617892
https://news.yahoo.com/done-unvaccinated-man-survived-covid-161213920.html
https://m.facebook.com/cnn/videos/recovering-covid-patient-urges-people-to-get-vaccinated-i-almost-left-my-wife-an/523945615512604/
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/covid-hospitalizations-unvaccinated-regret-1206032/
You’ve been loving the emotional anecdotes lately. Should we all find our friends who had covid and recovered without the vaccine provide some emotional testimonials? Would that be proof of anything?
Not really. Because dead is dead. Damaged is damaged. There is no do over from there. Which is why most people are concerned… except of course for those concerned over anti vaxxer doomsday prophecies more than reality. And they are way, way too emotional to be judicious about much of anything.
Because of those making such claims, 1) a lot of people say they recovered from covid without ever having a test (which they also claim not to believe in) and 2) they also haven’t a clue as to how much immunity they have from reinfection, which latest information indicates matters. And apparently are totally unconcerned about anyone other than themselves. Not the neighbors with whom you want to share the same airspace.
Holy guacamole. You’ve really gotten good at stereotyping, assuming, denigrsting, and dismissing a huge swath of the population lately.
Nonsense is what you call everything meaningful AO.
I read the whole story.
Tell me, who did he get Covid19 from that was unvaccinated?
That’s the nonsense.
AO’s MO. If you say something is nonsense, it just means you have been out debated. It’s textbook
empty rebuttle.
Straight out of the playbook.
Just like all your quotes and links.
I’ll ask you the one again that you didn’t have an answer for in your playbook,
Why can’t you get a booster yet if they are recommending them and it’s been eight months? No such thing!
What are they gonna boost the J&J with? An mRNA jab.
No news from that camp.
What gives?
J&J throwing in the towel?
Why no data on J&J efficacy with Delta at all? Zero, Zilch,
Nada.
And just one more to make sure the crickets start chirping, oh wait, they already are chirping here.
Tell me again when we are gonna hit mystical, mythical, magical herd immunity.
What is the latest number?
🤔🧐Who do you work for?
If you bothered to check out the story before holding it up to ridicule, you would have seen the answer to where the family thinks he got it.
And as to hitting herd immunity- when every anti vaxxer has spread the illness to everyone around them multiple times, most people will have gained relative immunity or died off. So I expect, outside of small pockets of the previously uninfected or those aging into vulnerability, herd immunity will arrive in 2 or more likely 3 years. Thanks for the extra deaths.
“you would have seen the answer to where the family thinks he got it.”
Is that a clinical data point? Will family/community suspicions be factored in to the length a vaccine pass will be valid for?
At what point was any of this “a clinical data point?” When does anything anti vaxxers say rise up to the level of data? When will anti vaxxers be willing to take what they so readily dish out?
Who are “anti-vaxxers “? Specifically who are you talking about? Please define the group for us, sense their omniscience seems to be your excuse for dismissing any opinions you don’t agree with around health it would be informative if we could all get clear on who you’re talking about and why they are central to your every comment
Nice Guest. 🤙
Where did it say that b.t.? The daughter thought he’d got it from the unvaxxed, the daughter didn’t believe the vaxxed could spread it.
He was vaccinated though. That’s the whole point of vaccination. Makes you unable to catch the disease.
The vaccine reduces the chance of getting COVID. It doesn’t eliminate it. Thus statements of the percentage of efficacy. Similarly, the use of a mask REDUCES the chance of spreading COVID but doesn’t eliminate it.
So….in other words the vaccine doesn’t work.
Also, you don’t work 100% of the time. But I presume you still work.
Your right, but I was never designed to be perfect, or even close to it. These treatments were designed with perfection in mind.
We all know if the polio or smallpox vaccines we’re as effective as these Covid prophylactic treatments, those diseases would still be circulating to this day.
No one sensible ever stated that the COVID Vaccine was going to be 100% effective.
Actually the current polio vaccine used in the US is not perfect either. In fact less perfect than the covid vaccine. The reason it is good enough now is because your parents and grandparents took the risk of earlier vaccines to reduce the amount of virus in the country to a level where the disease is so uncommon that good enough is good enough for everyone. Try having the same courage as they did.
Polio actually killed and maimed people though so there was much better reason to take the leap. Also you know as well as I do that the polio vaccine is much better than the Covid one. If it were the same polio would still be circulating to this day, and it isn’t. The projected efficacy of these covid vaccines falls daily.
The original polio vaccines, that pretty much wiped out polio, were in the neighborhood of 60% effective.
I’ll take your word for it , Bushytails,
Sounds plausible.
But there is a big difference between
X%Effective,
and,
X%Efficacy.
It makes all the difference in the world.
There are almost no vaccines that work 100%. Birth control doesn’t work 100%. But improving ones odds is what smart gamblers do.
The odds are changing rapidly with these “treatments.” Smart gamblers wait till the dust settles in order to get an accurate read on the stats and chances before they place their bets.
The stats are pretty obvious to me but I have no objection to you waiting until you’re comfortable. Just take as many precautions as you can to keep from passing on COVID in the meantime. Not everyone is as lucky as you apparently are.
This quote from above PR suggests it does work 100%.
“ Full protection from the vaccine is achieved two weeks after receiving the second dose of a two-dose series or two weeks after receiving a single-dose vaccine.”
Earlier in the PR they discuss a booster shot, but the quote seems misleading.
As I said the last time you repeated this quibble- read the Not A Scotsman logic fallacy because you should be aware of the hole you just fell into. Again. You are arguing semantics that others understand pretty clearly. Not reality.
The problem as I see it Kym is that for most people, all prior exposure to the word vaccine indicated a product that dramatically reduced the chance of infection. And that was the way these injections were presented in the initial phases as well.
When it turns out that they really just reduce expressed symptoms and slightly reduce transmission public health didn’t just come out and say they overestimated. Instead they pivot into this pr speak about how no one ever promised protection and they still protect against severe disease and its still the only path forward.
In the meantime, many more people have been exposed to the type of information that people like Dr McCullough are sharing about the wide variety of cheap and highly effective preemptive treatment protocols that keep people out of hospitals.
All of this just increases skepticism and cynicism toward public health agencies. If they want to regain the peoples’ trust and respect they need to return to a posture of frank honesty and embrace the nuance inherent in any complex health discussion. Acting like petulant little dictators only inspires resistance, and any government agency attempting to over reach their legally granted authority deserves to be shamed by the people
You mean the same population that knows there are yearly flu vaccines offered. And the silliest argument of all is from those who announce that they are not going to be seriously sick because they are healthy then say taking some prophylactic from advertised on an antivaxxer site prevents disease. Meanwhile discounting any studies that say there is no evidence of its benefit as lies. Who can believe anything they say?
It’s a shame that the covid vaccines are not sterilizing. But anything that reduces severe consequences by 3/4ths is far, far, far better than the advice to not get vaccinated and, if you survive, you’ll be good to go.
“taking some prophylactic from advertised on an antivaxxer site prevents disease”
It worked for the POTUS, Trump.
But I guess his doctors weren’t as smart as you.
Since many people don’t want the jab, wouldn’t it have made sense for the medical community to encourage those people to at least try the prophylactics as a comparison and do real studies?
Auntie, you really are an exhausting person to deal with. I’m sorry I triggered your need to spout your erroneous laments about that “antivaxxer” site you once were linked to and that traumatized you so much.
Who is promoting prophylactics that are clinically proven useless? If you are curious to learn more about what natural tools for improved immunity look like I would highly recommend the books Herbal Antibacterials and Herbal Antivirals by Steven Harrod Buhner. Also a great general introduction to the physiology of immunity, if a little technical.
They don’t reduce symptoms by 3/4s though. The JandJ has pretty much dropped off the map and the Pfizer was only 50% and falling.
They come out with data every single day about how they are even less effective than the day before yet you still need to take them because it’s the only chance everyone has.
Imagine that sort of thing breeding skepticism…
Don’t believe the hype.
There’s no checks and balances for this push to bring in AI, as the perfect example of a Covid free organism to do what humans were needed to do.
We’ve been told for years that AI will make many human beings obsolete.
We are living in interesting times.
People dependent on the system will used by those who manage the system, and at the end, only those in the club will have access to 1st class medical treatment.
Solution.
Don’t get sick.
Avoid unhealthy minds like the plague, they are still battling with themselves, and like a drowning dog, will make it very hard for you to stay afloat.
Let those who were witnesses to WW2 Germany become cannon fodder for the big cull.
“Must Die, Must Die, this jesus must die”
AA,
A great epitaph,
written in stone.
“I got the vaccines, so should you,”
“I got Covid anyway, so could you.”
“I got ‘The J&J jab’, so, would you?”
But why all the unnecessary public discussion about vaccine risks , anyway?
The FDA has decided to forego this aspect in the deliberations on whether or not to approve the vaccines.
Too cumbersome and time consuming I guess. And potentially too revealing.
Now, why would they all of a sudden eliminate a public comment period and questions and the associated consideration, regarding approval of the vaccines? Streamlining the process?
In order to maintain the public’s trust?
Can you say, CRONY RUBBERSTAMP?
Talk about Warp Speed! The FDA is really warping us this time. Or is it the CDC? Tweak is more like it.
Emergency Use Authorization
+ Operation Warp Tweak!
= Full FDA Approval.
Any Questions? Not allowed this time.
Gosh, with the associated EUA, it sure seems a thorough public discussion would be more important, not less!
J&J has neither submitted the necessary data, nor even applied for full FDA approval, yet.
How’s the boost thing going to work for those that got the J&J jab?
How many breakthrough cases are associated with the J&J jab?
I know at least one breakthrough death in Mendocino was.
Can’t exactly boost a J&J jab with a mRNA vax can you?
Had J&J even been working on a booster? How could it be approved?
Have they applied for an EUA for a booster?
Will they just repeat the original jab?
It seems like J&J is getting ready to bow out, ungracefully.
Haven’t you been listening to the commercials? You’ll just grab a second dose of that ol’ jnj and be happy with it! Capiche?
thatguyinarcata,
Seriously?,
No I haven’t heard any commercials, you must be kidding, right?
No advertising with an EUA I thought?
I don’t do TV or Radio.
That doesn’t sound to good.
I’ll pass for now.
Oh you’re right. These aren’t commercials. Their new broadcasts and public service announcements.
Surely those can’t be bought. And if they could, jnj wouldn’t waste the money. They’ve got a talcum suit to cover, let Pfizer do the heavy lifting on the messaging, eh?
SF among other places are already hinting that jnj jabbees may want to “top up” with some of that sweet sweet mrna juice. Cause, ya know, big science time
Yes. Big time science. Which would have saved about 400,000 US citizens if it had been available early last year. No vaccine was all there was and looknat what happened. When do you think that horribly bad advise will run out of people to die?
We get it. You believe that pharmaceutical company press releases are sufficiently rigorous for you to trust the products. You can stop telling us that now
🕯🌳India approves the first DNA vaccine. Zydus Cadilas’s Covid-19 vaccine. Done in partnership with Department of Biotechnology. Owners of the vaccine Cadila Healthcare LTD. Study was done with 28,000 people with 66.6% rate of effectiveness. It’s a three dose vaccine and it’s not a shot in the arm. 🖖🖖
The advantage of DNA vaccines are they are cheaper to manufacture and usually don’t need to be kept as cold because DNA is more stable than RNA. But one reason for the mRNA vaccine is that (despite anti vaxxer misinformation), mRNA cannot change the DNA of a cell. “But with any health advancement comes potential risk. Gennaro says that with a DNA vaccine, there is always a risk it can cause a permanent change to the cell’s natural DNA sequence.
“Usually, there are ways in which DNA vaccines are made that try to minimize this risk, but it’s a potential risk,” she says. “Instead, if you inject mRNA, it cannot get integrated into the genetic material of a cell. It is also ready to be translated into protein.””
https://www.verywellhealth.com/rna-vs-dna-vaccine-5082285
BTW what I read said it is a shot. Do you have something that says otherwise?
No needle, AO.
A “precise stream” delivered through the skin, from some sort of a spring loaded device, apparently.
Sounds like a blast. 3 of them.
2/3rds efficacy. See something like that.
So you think injecting by a “precise stream” rather than a needle changes what vaccine does in the body?
No AO,
You jumped to that conclusion, you’re getting a little too far ahead of both of us. Pump the brakes.
Willie said it’s not a shot in the arm, you said it was a shot. Mine was a clarification.
It just didn’t work out that way.
Do you ever agree with anything?
If I said you seldom agree, would you agree?
🕯🌳I’ll redo my research Auntie. 🖖🖖Needle free application. 👁👁
India approves first Covid vaccine for children above 12 – 5 things to know
ZyCoV-D will be administered in children above 12 years and adults.
2 min read . Updated: 21 Aug 2021, 07:42 AM IST Livemint
Zydus Cadila plans to make 100 to 120 million doses of Zycov-D annually
This three-dose vaccine plays a vital role in protection from the infection as well as viral clearance
Zydus Cadila on Friday received an approval for the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) from the Drug Controller General of India (DCGI) for ZyCoV-D, the world’s first and India’s indigenously developed DNA based vaccine against Covid-19.
The company said it plans to manufacture 100 million to 120 million doses of ZyCoV-D annually and has started to stockpile the vaccine. ZyCoV-D will be administered in children above 12 years and adults.
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/india-approves-zydus-cadila-s-needle-free-covid-vaccine-for-emergency-use-for-all-above-12-years-of-age-11629467937076.html
Here’s your 5-point cheatsheet to this big story:
1. The vaccine has been developed in partnership with the DBT under Mission COVID Suraksha. “Developed in partnership with the Department of Biotechnology, Government of India under the ‘Mission COVID Suraksha’ and implemented by BIRAC, ZyCoV-D has been supported under COVID-19 Research Consortia through National Biopharma Mission for Preclinical studies, Phase I and Phase II Clinical Trials and under the Mission COVID Suraksha for Phase III Clinical Trial,” an official release stated.
2. This three-dose vaccine, which when injected produces the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and elicits an immune response, plays a vital role in protection from the infection as well as viral clearance. The plug-and-play technology on which the plasmid DNA platform is based can be easily adapted to deal with mutations in the virus, such as those already occurring.
3. Interim results from Phase 3 clinical trials, in more than 28,000 volunteers, showed primary efficacy of 66.6% for symptomatic RT-PCR positive cases. This has been the largest vaccine trial so far in India for coronavirus. This jab had already exhibited robust immunogenicity and tolerability and safety profile in the adaptive Phase I/II clinical trials carried out earlier. Both the Phase I/II and Phase III clinical trials have been monitored by an independent Data Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB).
4. Vaccine Technology Centre (VTC), vaccine research centre of the Zydus group, Translational Health Science and Technology Institute (THSTI), an autonomous institute of the Department of Biotechnology (DBT and Interactive Research School for Health Affairs (IRSHA), Pune, GCLP Lab set up under the Department of Biotechnology – National Biopharma Mission (NBM) also played a vital role in this success story.
5. Speaking on the development, the Chairman of the Zydus Group, Pankaj R Patel said, “We are extremely happy that our efforts to put out a safe, well-tolerated and efficacious vaccine to fight COVID-19 has become a reality with ZyCoV-D. To create the world’s first DNA vaccine at such a crucial juncture and despite all the challenges, is a tribute to the Indian research scientists and their spirit of innovation. I’d like to thank the Department of Biotechnology, Government of India for their support in this mission of Atma Nirbhar Bharat and Indian Vaccine Mission COVID Suraksha.”
https://www.livemint.com/
☕How about that efficacy?
I wrote that 2/3rds.
I don’t care for that number too much.
🤔🧐It needs rounding let’s just say.😁
🕯🌳India approves the first DNA vaccine. Zydus Cadilas’s Covid-19 vaccine. Done in partnership with Department of Biotechnology. Owners of the vaccine Cadila Healthcare LTD. Study was done with 28,000 people with 66.6% rate of effectiveness. It’s a three dose vaccine and it’s not a shot in the arm. 🖖🖖
Found it- “The company says this methodology can eliminate chances of needlestick injury and will also lead to a significant reduction in any kind of side effects. It will also help people suffering from trypanophobia, a common condition marked by an irrational fear of blood or needles. It’s estimated that fear of needles affects up to 25 percent of adults.”
Maybe it’s a good product.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/zycov-d-zydus-cadilas-needle-free-covid-19-vaccine-gets-dcgi-nod-all-you-need-to-know-9901281.html
ABBOTT AND COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S ON FIRST’ ……updated version.
Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’
https://rightwirereport.com/2021/08/17/if-abbott-and-costello-were-around-today-this-would-be-the-updated-version-of-whos-on-first/
😃😅