County Tops 5,000 Cases of COVID-19; Public Urged to Help Contain Spread of Virus

COVID Vaccine coronavirusPress release from the County of Humboldt:

Twenty-one additional cases of COVID-19 have been reported in Humboldt County today, bringing the total number of county residents who have tested positive for the virus to 5,010.

Public Health officials call on the community to help limit the spread of the virus by wearing masks indoors in public, participating in contact tracing efforts and getting vaccinated.

The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) today issued a statewide recommendation for all residents of California to wear masks in indoor public settings regardless of vaccination status. This recommendation is an update to the existing CDPH order requiring unvaccinated residents to wear masks in indoor public settings, and all residents to wear masks in certain public settings such as health care settings, youth settings, public transportation, long-term care and senior care facilities and shelters. Read the updated guidance at cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/guidance-for-face-coverings.aspx.

CDPH’s decision follows similar recommendations from Humboldt County Public Health officials last week and from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) yesterday for regions with high levels of virus transmission. According to the CDC, more than 90% of California residents are in areas of high or substantial transmission, including Humboldt County.

The recent surge in local cases has required Public Health to prioritize contact investigations based on risk. Anyone who tests positive for COVID-19 is urged to assist contact investigators in quickly identifying their close contacts, defined as those who have been within six feet for 15 minutes or more within a 24-hour period. Contact investigators will continue to follow up directly with the contacts of those who live or work in high-risk or congregate settings, such as health care facilities, youth settings and long-term care facilities.

The CDC notes that fully vaccinated people are not likely to become severely ill if infected with the Delta variant, but preliminary evidence suggests they can spread the virus to others. Nearly half, or 49.9%, of Humboldt County residents are fully vaccinated and another 5.8% are partially vaccinated. Partially vaccinated residents are urged to get their second dose within the recommended time frame. Full protection is achieved two weeks after completing the vaccination series, which means both doses in a two-dose series of Pfizer or Moderna vaccine or one dose of the single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Contact the Joint Information Center at 441-5000 for more information about the vaccine or its availability.

Vaccines are available at Public Health vaccination clinics and most local pharmacies. Walk-ins are welcome at all Public Health clinics, or sign up in advance at MyTurn.ca.gov. See the clinic schedule for the next seven days below.

Trinidad – Thursday, July 29, from noon to 3 p.m.
Trinidad Town Hall (409 Trinity St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Eureka – Thursday, July 29, from 5 to 8 p.m.
Eureka Summer Concert Series (Madaket Plaza, 1 C St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Eureka – Friday, July 30, from 1 to 4 p.m.
Transition-Age Youth (TAY) Division (433 M St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Eureka – Saturday, July 31, from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Get Out and Play Day (Sequoia Park, 3414 W St.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

Fields Landing – Tuesday, Aug. 3, from noon to 2:30 p.m.
Fields Landing Boat Ramp (End of Railroad Ave., South Humboldt Bay)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

King Salmon – Tuesday, Aug. 3, from 3:30 to 5:30 p.m.
Gills by the Bay (77 Halibut Ave.)
Pfizer/Johnson & Johnson

The Pfizer vaccine is approved for children as young as 12 years old. Minors must be accompanied by a parent or guardian. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is authorized for those 18 and older.

To check availability of these vaccines, as well as Moderna, at local pharmacies, visit vaccines.gov or text a ZIP code to 438829 to find a participating pharmacy nearby. Most pharmacies allow walk-ins.

View the Humboldt County Data Dashboard online at humboldtgov.org/dashboard, or go to humboldtgov.org/DashboardArchives to download today’s data.

For the most recent COVID-19 information, visit cdc.gov or cdph.ca.gov. Local information is available at humboldtgov.org or by contacting [email protected] or calling 707-441-5000.

Sign up for COVID-19 vaccination: MyTurn.ca.gov
Check for vaccine availability at a local pharmacy: Vaccines.gov
Local COVID-19 vaccine information: humboldtgov.org/VaccineInfo
Humboldt County COVID-19 Data Dashboard: humboldtgov.org/Dashboard
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Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

It’s all over but the crying, 5000 cases out of 170000 people in 2 years. What’s that , 1% of the population per year gets covid, hardly super contagious. What a joke, let me guess. It’s going to take off any day, it’s been 2 years

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

https://deadline.com/2021/07/california-unvaccinated-six-hundred-percent-more-covid-1234801794/

https://katu.com/news/local/doctors-fed-up-as-covid-19-cases-rise-due-to-unvaccinated-patients

https://www.kcra.com/article/self-proclaimed-ex-anti-vaxxer-hospitalized-covid-19-urges-vaccinations/37159106#

Keep fussing! When it’s YOU with the COVID you could have prevented, you may change your mind…

Don’t be foolish, get your vaccine, please…

Healthcare workers are tired, and we want you to get your vaccine now…

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Have to leave the house to catch Covid.

Some in the Triangle, who are over-frequent commentors, don’t fit the criteria.

W
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W
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

Since your saying your a health care worker then my question is why are you and the healthcare providers ignoring natural immunity?

AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

It’s a choice vmg.

What are the long term effects of the vaxx?

Nobody knows.

That’s what the fuss is about.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

So unvaccinated cases are six times higher eh?

But they are only counting one tenth of the breakthrough cases.

So times those by ten, and now, before even considering the difference in testing procedure that keeps breakthrough cases even lower, breakthrough cases are167% higher than unvaccinated cases.

Mr and Mrs
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2 years ago
Reply to  VMG

You sound like a TV ad.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

170,000?

Humboldt has about 135,000 people.

onlooker
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onlooker
2 years ago

And almost half have passed the Darwin test and gotten vaccinated.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  onlooker

I hope that comment ages well for you. Good luck with the science experiment.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago

Correct, Angela,

I noticed that too.

But his percentage figure was still way off, and the chronology wasn’t very accurate either.

It kind of speaks for itself.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Off by 1 percent, wayyy off for sure. 2 percent of Humboldt infected by the corona, the truth hurts.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Off by 90%, actually.

That actually is way off.
If you were only off by 1%,
then only 1.01% of the population of Humboldt would have died of Covid19.

Ellin
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Ellin
2 years ago

135,558 (2019) … nearly 70,000 Humboldters are smart enough to know a good free thing when they see it. And the others… well… hope you are members of https://www.fcahumboldt.org/ to keep your family money in the family when you kick it – whether ‘Rona gets you this time or not – something will.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

Oh, your right Angela! That would be 2 percent that got the super duper contagious corona . That is such a joke, got me on the floor laughing. Typical flu year there, maybe it was here in humboldt in 2018 ,what a thought. The simplest answers for a simple virus.

VMG
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VMG
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thanks for this!

W
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W
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Your a reporter why haven’t you asked the health dept why natural immunity is ignored? It’s totally ignored by all health depts, and cdc why?

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
Reply to  W

Define “natural immunity”…

thatguyinarcata
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thatguyinarcata
2 years ago

Natural immunity is the immunity that is acquired by recovering from infection

AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  W

Thanks w.

Good question.

Why doesn’t dr. Hoffman address natural immunity?

AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Thanks melanospin.

What is the source for dr. Hoffman’s data?

Was it an article?

Was it a study?

Mr and Mrs
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2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

This is where erroneous data comes in. It’s been documented this is not factual. Let’s see the data.

Mee
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Mee
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

How many due to heart attack

Homocide

Cancer

The list goes on.

Everyone seems to forget the c accine is expermintal. Long term what does it do? Auto immune issues birth defects?

Unknown long term due to DNA

It is a choice people need to make for themselves not forced on them.

At some point we have to get on with our lives and quit fear mongering.

Everyone dies of something some day. Live your life while you are here

cu2morrow
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cu2morrow
2 years ago
Reply to  Mee

this virus was designed too kill, nothing natural about it.

lol
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lol
2 years ago
Reply to  Mee

“Unknown long term due to DNA ”

What is that supposed to mean? They are RNA vaccines. Without looking it up, you cant even tell me what DNA stand for, let alone how RNA is different from DNA.

There is far more evidence that long term effects of the virus is more concerning.

People die from all sorts of causes, this doesn’t mean we should not try to avoid dying.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  lol

That’s impossible

Mee
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Mee
2 years ago
Reply to  lol

Typical liberal

Attack my intellegance indepandant thoughts or logic

FogDog
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FogDog
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

You added at least an extra Eureka and a half to the number of people that live in the county

Ms Jane Doe
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Ms Jane Doe
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Would you feel this way if it killed your father or your sister?

thetallone
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thetallone
2 years ago
Reply to  Lone Ranger

Ranger, you told us it would be gone a couple of months ago.

Hayforker
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Hayforker
2 years ago

“ The CDC notes that fully vaccinated people are not likely to become severely ill if infected with the Delta variant, but preliminary evidence suggests they can spread the virus to others. ”

If they can spread it then why aren’t they required to mask? The whole covid rules and policy is the biggest shitshow I’ve ever seen. It’s not pure science. It’s not pure politics, but a blend of the two. Shoot from the hip leadership. Super dangerous.

Me
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Me
2 years ago
Reply to  Hayforker

saying ‘the science changed’ every time they are proven wrong or caught in a lie, is an incredibly dishonest tactic.

chopsolutely
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chopsolutely
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

it’s not that the science changed. you don’t know what the word means. it’s that our understanding of the situation has improved. only a fool or a liar holds to old positions in the face of new data.

and the new data suggests that folks like me that have been critical of half-implemented and prematurely-ended policies have been right all along.

go ahead and get yourself covid, big man. hopefully you won’t be one of the long haulers.

Mutate now avoid the rush
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Mutate now avoid the rush
2 years ago
Reply to  chopsolutely

Very good point but hard to swallow with all the snark.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

Better than the anti vaxxers who never change no matter how many times they are wrong and caught in a lie.

AA
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AA
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Thanks melanospin.

lol
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lol
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

When more data is collected, the scientific conclusions often change. That is honest not dishonesty. They are the ones providing the proof, non-scientist are not catching the scientific community lying.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago

👁👁

fishkiller
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fishkiller
2 years ago

CDC/FDA confess: they had no virus when they concocted the test for the virus
by Jon Rappoport

The CDC has issued a document that bulges with interesting and devastating admissions.

The release is titled, “07/21/2021: Lab Alert: Changes to CDC RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2 Testing.” It begins explosively:

“After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives.”

Many people believe this means the CDC is giving up on the PCR test as a means of “detecting the virus.” I don’t think the CDC is saying that at all.

They’re saying the PCR technology will continue to be used, but they’re replacing what the test is looking FOR with a better “reference sample.” A better marker. A better target. A better piece of RNA supposedly derived from SARS-CoV-2.

CDC/FDA are confessing there has been a PROBLEM with the PCR test which has been used to detect the virus, starting in February of 2020—right up to this minute.

In other words, the millions and millions of “COVID cases” based on the PCR test in use are all suspect.

To confirm this, the CDC document links to an FDA release titled, “SARS-CoV-2 Reference Panel Comparative Data.” Here is a killer quote:

“During the early months of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, clinical specimens [of the virus] were not readily available to developers of IVDs [in vitro diagnostics] to detect SARS-CoV-2. Therefore, the FDA authorized IVDs based on available data from contrived samples generated from a range of SARS-CoV-2 material sources (for example, gene specific RNA, synthetic RNA, or whole genome viral RNA) for analytical and clinical performance evaluation. While validation using these contrived specimens provided a measure of confidence in test performance at the beginning of the pandemic, it is not feasible to precisely compare the performance of various tests that used contrived specimens because each test validated performance using samples derived from different gene specific, synthetic, or genomic nucleic acid sources.”

Translation: We, at the CDC, did not have a specimen of the SARS-CoV-2 virus when we concocted the PCR test for SARS-CoV-2. Yes, it’s unbelievable, right? And that’s the test we’ve been using all along. So we CONTRIVED samples of the virus. We fabricated. We lied. We made up [invented] synthetic gene sequences and we SAID these sequences HAD TO BE close to the sequence of SARS-CoV-2, without having the faintest idea of what we were doing, because, again, we didn’t have an actual specimen of the virus. We had no proof THERE WAS something called SARS-CoV-2.

This amazing FDA document goes to say the Agency has granted emergency approval to 59 different PCR tests since the beginning of the (fake) pandemic. 59. And, “…it is not feasible to precisely compare the performance of various tests that used contrived specimens because each test validated performance using samples derived from different gene specific, synthetic, or genomic nucleic acid sources.”

Translation: Each of the 59 different PCR tests for SARS-CoV-2 told different lies and concocted different fabrications about the genetic makeup of the virus—the virus we didn’t have. Obviously, then, these tests would give unreliable results.

BUT, don’t worry, be happy, because NOW, the CDC and the FDA say, they really do have actual virus samples of SARS-CoV-2 from patients; they have better targets for the PCR test, and labs should start gearing up for the new and improved tests.

In other words, they were lying THEN, but they’re not lying NOW. They were “contriving,” but now they’re telling the truth.

If you believe that, I have Fountain of Youth water for sale, extracted from the lead-contaminated system of Flint, Michigan.

Here, once again, I report virology’s version of “we isolated the virus”:

They have a soup they make in their labs.

This soup contains human and monkey cells, toxic chemicals and drugs, and all sorts of other random genetic material. Because the cells start to die, the researchers ASSUME a bit of mucus from a patient they dropped in the soup is doing the killing, and THE VIRUS must be the killer agent in the mucus.

This assumption is entirely unwarranted. The drugs and chemicals could be doing the cell-killing, and the researchers are also starving the cells of vital nutrients.

There is no proof that SARS-CoV-2 is in the soup, or that it is doing the cell-killing, or that it exists.

Yet the researchers call cell-death “isolation of the virus.”

To say this is a non-sequitur is a vast understatement. In their universe, “We have the virus buried in a soup in a dish in the lab” equals, “We’ve separated the virus from all surrounding material.”

Virology equals “how to spread bullshit for a living and scare the world.” Other than that, it’s perfect.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

🕯🌳Kind of like the bullshit your trying to spread right. You do try to sound pretty professional though I’ll give you that. 🖖🖖

UnflappableJack
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UnflappableJack
2 years ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Couldn’t help but notice you didn’t, or couldn’t, counter a single point fishkiller made. Just the attack which at this point is as predictable as a sunset.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago

Jon Rappoport is as far as I needed to go.

This is the guy who denies that “germs” cause illness. He’s sort of famous as a crackpot. Has been for years.

In fact a lot of the more “interesting” things I’ve read in these comments could have been lifted straight out of a Rappoport screed from years ago.

This is the second time in two days I’ve seen the name of someone I had forgotten about years ago show up.

Ellin
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Ellin
2 years ago

Some of what we think are our own fools are copying from other sources, some are Bots or disinformation writers from Not-Inside-Humboldt. I have seen the same messages by searching their unique sentences. Some of these radically self-reliant fruitcakes are fakes or plagiarists.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Ellin

Call specific individuals out by name or you come off as nothing more than paranoid.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Lol, you’re ALWAYS the one vehemently denying people could be bots or using a bunch of names to comment here.
Well, we know for a fact now that several people here use a bunch of names. Bots or disinformation writers are no stretch and you know it.
I’ve got my suspicions who, not telling you though , lol lol.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

I do consistently call out this behavior. I stand by my opinion.

If you’re going to claim “bots!”, then yes, it is on you to back up the accusations. If you choose not to, the simplest explanation is that you can’t.

I don’t deny it could be happening. It is also possible that wildfires are being started with lasers. If I claimed the second one, would you ask for evidence?

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

No one else expects “proof” except you. Every time.
There are claims of all sorts of things in these threads, I don’t see you demanding “proof” of everything.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Ellin

Interesting. Very interesting.

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago

And who is AngeLA Robinson?

No one that matters on this subject.

Or maybe any subject that matters to 99.9% of the world.

Jon has more research experience as an investigative tool than you may want to admit.

Many people like their news presented by corporate media.

Many people do not

onlooker
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onlooker
2 years ago

There’s no point in arguing with a zombie.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago

🕯🌳I didn’t counter any point because there wasn’t any point to counter unflappablejack and Angela had his number. 🗣🗣🖖🖖

Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
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Jim’s Guest Is Someone Else’s Wife
2 years ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Whadsup, Willie? ✌🏼

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago

Countering the endless repeating of bad information from anti vaxxers needs a huge commitment of time and effort. Just when it seems they have finally run through the list of innuendos, mistakes and illogic and have been countered at every one, they ignore all the arguments against them and go back to the beginning to start the same thing all over again. All it requires to do that is to wave their magic wand of distrusting everyone but themselves and – puff- they believe the same thing all over again.

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

So anyone who doesn’t want to go along with the mainstream narrative is an an antivaxxer? Broaden your horizons ao

Mutate now avoid the rush
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Mutate now avoid the rush
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Ignorance & adaptabiliy 2 of natural selections most useful tools.

Mr and Mrs
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2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

We don’t support bigg agg, bigg pharma, the food industry and the choices you take. But we dint force people to believe our ideologies. It’s called being free. Yeah there are risks. It’s called life mitigate what you can.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

They had the genome so the knew what the PCR test needed to be looking for. This latest anti vaxxer tactic is to argue that the CDC did not have actual samples of the virus so how could the PCR test be right. However that is like saying bread can’t be made without using bread to get the ingredients. And in the end would be what was used even if they had the actual virus.

“Researchers at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have produced synthetic gene fragments from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. This material, which is non-infectious and safe to handle, can help manufacturers produce more accurate and reliable diagnostic tests for the disease.” https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200826/Synthetic-gene-fragments-from-SARS-CoV-2-can-help-produce-accurate-diagnostic-tests.aspx

Call me Crazy
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Call me Crazy
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

Great post. FK

lol
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lol
2 years ago
Reply to  fishkiller

I understand how a person ignorant of biology would be confused by this. If you have the genetic code of the organism, you can develop test without live virus. Your “translation” embarrasses you.

CookL
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CookL
2 years ago

Tin Foil Brigade is in full swing I see. I only pray none of you know the loss. I hope some day you grow up.

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  CookL

They report for duty every single day. Armed with the latest dumbass bs gleaned from the internet. Lots of spare time on their hands.
Lucky them…

Misguidedyouth
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Misguidedyouth
2 years ago
Reply to  Yeah,sure

And where do you get your info? The e newspaper?

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago
Reply to  CookL

Useful idiots on both sides.

There should be a health examination for both.

Health intelligence is the indicator that matters.

We need an overhaul of the food industry and the companies that produce dead food need to be fined, for crimes against humanity.

There is no real justification for the consumption of much of the food sold that lowers the health score of the consumer.

Mandatory Social Credit Score is the blowback for all those who epitomizes medical tyranny.

Me
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Me
2 years ago

The dishonesty and hypocrisy we have witnessed over the past 18 months is truly incredible.

People appeal to ‘the science’ like an infallible religious institution when it suits them, then say ‘the science changed’ when they’re wrong.

Thus, THEY can never be wrong. Amazing. Rolling on the floor laughing

They literally told you:

Masks don’t work, but they do.

Stay home, but go outside.

Lockdowns don’t work, but they do.

Asymptomatic transmission is rare, but common.

Social distancing works, but doesn’t.

Vaccinated don’t spread virus, but they do.

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

My favorite is “the science is settled” that’s not how science works. I understand that our leaders are trying to project confidence l, but I would feel better if they just explained it honestly that they’re figuring it out as they go instead of projecting confidence. My problem is that every one I personally know who projects confidence and is consistently wrong is merely arrogant. And to be honest, every one has been wrong to some extent about this pandemic, but not in their press releases. I still think Sweden got it right, maybe not in every aspect but their citizens had a level of trust in their leaders that we don’t as a nation. I call that a failure on both sides of our political aisles.

bearjoo
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bearjoo
2 years ago
Reply to  Mile

LOL AMEN… This is POLITICAL SCIENCE not actual science. All addressed in the Nuremberg Code.

I say Hang Em and Hang Em High!

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

How far will you go to prosecute those beliefs?

Athletic minded people who epitomize strong and disciplined life choices are far superior to those lazy, decadent, and morally repugnant.

They will have their own comeuppance,

Yeah,sure
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Yeah,sure
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

It is completely hilarious the drama brought to these threads by the deniers while accusing non deniers of drama. Every day it’s a barrage of outrage over every little thing. Hours pouring over the internet gathering ammunition from janky websites to supposedly prove….. what exactly? Every day? Why? The drama over masks alone is enough to wear anyone out.
Get the vaccine or don’t. Do we need 20 janky articles a day on why your not going to get it?
Wear a mask or don’t. Do we need to hear the drama over masks every day? It’s really weird.
Every day you say your not going to get the vaccine. We get it. Do you not know that we heard you?

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Me

That is like saying advice to “Drive but avoid hitting trees” is dishonest because it has conflicting ideas. Lockdowns do work to limit disease spread but can’t be imposed indefitely. Stay home but go out side means exercise but not in crowds. No expert ever said masks don’t work- only that they are not needed when the disease rarely encountered.

Because not all the answers are known and advice changes when they are does not mean no advice should ever be believed. In fact it would have been great if vaccination mean no one ever got sick again. It was hard not to hope for that. But, even though that was never claimed that was going to be the result, vaccination is still better by far than the antivaxxer idea of ‘let everyone get sick, that is what nature intended” .

Heck, if judging by the results was imposed on anti vaxxers, none would ever be heard from again. “The PCR test produces false positives and shouldn’t be believed. Except when it produces breakthrough positives. Then it becomes miraculously reliable.” “The adverse side effects of vaccination having killed 6000 means that vaccines are too dangerous to take. But 600,000 deaths from the disease is meaningless- it’s only the flu.” “Vaccination will kill those who get one- immediately. Or next week, or 20 years in the future- which one ever time frame is not been proven ridiculous by having failed to have produced that result.” Science doesn’t need to produce perfect results as long as it’s only competition is anti vaxxerism.

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

You sound very confident… good for you.

Aunti Ovine
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Aunti Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Mile

I’m empirically confident that anti vaxxers consistently misunderstand most things. My confidence on other things varies.

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Aunti Ovine

If an individual has received all approved recommended vaccinations (MMR, tetanus, etc.), but chooses to not take an experimental Covid vaccine, is that person an “antivaxer”?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
Reply to  I like stars

Find me that person and you will have an anomaly.

Infact most people don’t take regular flu vaccines but DID take a not-so-experimental Covid vaccine, as voiced in the “My Family Got Covid” article recently.

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

Here I am, the anonymous anomaly!

I reckon this bloody jab is rubbish.

It is definitely the first vaccine I haven’t taken.

Is that so odd?

I even got Hep A and Hep B vaccinated as an EMT.

Your probably going to call me a liar now, right?

If not, that would be the anomaly.

” They discovered that in studies registered between October, 2019, and June, 2020, over 50% of Covid19 vaccine trials, excluded people over 65.” !!!!

Trying to expedite FDA approval?

Those are the people most affected!

What a scam!

Now they are the ones getting slammed after vaccination and they are trying to say the vaccine is losing efficacy?

It didn’t work like they said it would from the beginning, now the want to jab them all again?

They have no shame.

And no, never had a flu vaccine, but I don’t thin that makes me a antivaxxer either.

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
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Of course people over 65 were initially excluded because the ability respond to vaccines are reduced. Which is also why they are most likely to die of covid in the first place. That means they are not as useful for measuring response. But the trials were expanded to include them in phase 2 and 3.

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I like stars
2 years ago
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Looks like you found several on your own. More common than you think. These folks aren’t some narrow slice of extremists. They are your neighbors. They are also not a bunch of idiots. They have genuine concerns. Dismissing them will not earn their trust.

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
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👍‍‍

HotCoffee
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HotCoffee
2 years ago
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Had every vax except no recent flu shots, but no jabs, stopped getting flu shots when each year I would find out they made the wrong one for the current flu year, always told us after the vax of course.
Got to get rid of those mistakes somehow, so just stick in someone’s. arm and reap the $$$

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
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I’m current on all vaxs that I know of, so are my kids and my dogs. Never had a flu shot though

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
Reply to  Aunti Ovine

Makes me glad I’m not a anti vaxxer then. I’m also not a conservative but the the same people keep trying labeling me as both.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago

🕊🕊RIP Dusty Hill 🕊🕊You gave us some of the best music we had over the years, thank you. 🕯🕯

Penny Pincer
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Penny Pincer
2 years ago
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🎶 You didn’t have to love me like you did, but you did and I thank you… I wanna thank you…🎶

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I like stars
2 years ago
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I will certainly miss Dusty. Going to crank up “beer drinkers and hell raisers” and take a little trip down memory lane.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago
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🕯🌳I’m there with you Stars. 🖖🖖

AA
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AA
2 years ago

“COVID Breakthrough Cases Ran the Gamut in Healthcare Workers
— Data from small study suggest a link with immune response to vaccination

by Molly Walker, Deputy Managing Editor, MedPage Today

Breakthrough COVID-19 cases in fully vaccinated healthcare workers were rare, and generally were associated with the individual’s immune response to the vaccine in the early days of infection, an Israeli study found.

In 39 breakthrough infections of SARS-CoV-2 out of 1,497 fully vaccinated healthcare workers, neutralizing antibody titers were lower than uninfected controls during the “peri-infection period” (case-to-control ratio 0.361, 95% CI 0.165-0.787), reported Gili Regev-Yochay, MD, of Tel Aviv University in Israel, and colleagues.”

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/93794?xid=nl_covidupdate_2021-07-29&eun=g1925483d0r&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DailyUpdate_072921&utm_term=NL_Gen_Int_Daily_News_Update_active

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
2 years ago

Latest cdc stats for US covid deaths 7 day average = 314
That is extremely low in light of all the headlines talking about delta variant spike. Why has no actual spike in deaths been seen? Is it possible that so many people have had covid at this point that there’s an invisible number of immune people who are being referred to as the unvaccinated? It’s something that no one talks about but, the numbers appear to support my argument. It’s hard to find articles talking about the spike in deaths because there hasn’t been one, despite the fact that delta has been here since may. Most news articles resort to headlines that give misleading stats leading people to believe that there’s a huge increase in covid when the charts just don’t show that to be the case. Most people have had covid, or had the shot or are too young to be affected.

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

One part to this is that this wave has had allot of chess pieces of the board, the vulnerable are the vaccinated or should be , the 600,000 dead. So it’s affecting a demographic that for the most part has a significantly reduced fatality rate. I think, or at least hope the mortality rate of this wave will reflect that. Combined with respiratory illnesses, including covid as last year proved, being less lethal in the dryer seasons. But I guess we’ll know In a week.

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

For example, almost 75 percent of covid fatality’s have been 65 year or older, it really spikes after 75 years old. So I would sincerely hope that all 65 year and older people have been vaccinated, or at least the majority. 18 to 44 year olds account for 4 percent, 44 to 64 year olds are 22 percent. 0-17 years old accounts for .06 percent. I’m not going to do the math but my hope is that the death rate should be drastically lower because younger people aren’t dying at the same rate as the elderly during the last waves.

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
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Sorry for repeat post but I’m just googling the numbers. Almost 72 percent of people 65 and older are fully vaccinated, 84 at least partially. The fully vaxxed percent would be removing about 50 percent of the potential deaths, and that’s just in the one demographic. If my math is right, sometimes it is

Willie Bray
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2 years ago
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🕯🌳Ding,Ding Miles your the winner. 🖖🖖

I like stars
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I like stars
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Kemp

Does that analysis also account for the fact that many of the most vulnerable have already succumbed. Gov Cuomo can’t kill the same grandmas twice.

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
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No it does not. It also doesn’t factor in vaccine rates for people under 65. Just doing a basic highlighting of a point. And I didn’t feel like doing real math.

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
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If there’s less vulnerable people there’s less deaths, I thought that was part of the goal? Or is there something I’m missing? It’s a bad sign that there’s a lot of covid, good sign that people won’t e dying at anywhere near the same rate

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
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For example the IFR rate for 5 to 14 years old is .001. That means 1 out of 100,000 children in that age group would die infected with covid. The IFR for 80 years plus is 10. So 1 in 10 die. Every avoidable death is a tragedy but moving closer to 1 out of 100,000 seems better than 1 out of 10. For a society as a whole anyways. And that’s not factoring in vaccinations or herd immunity. Age 14 to 19 is roughly .005 and that group is Able to be vaccinated which changes that number also.

Mile
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Mile
2 years ago
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Probably not, I don’t do a good job of articulating my position. In short, I believe that mathematically the death rate will not increase like it has before with this wave. I would say there should be around 70 percent less deaths per infections. Maybe even less depending on the rate the elderly continue to get vaccinated at. Or at least I hope.

Jeffersonian
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Jeffersonian
2 years ago
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Yes I read the wapo article. They couldn’t find an official chart showing delta surge, so they made them up by cherry picking statistics, like crappy southern states or a chart that doesn’t include the entire population. There are no cdc charts I saw showing that surge on the charts wapo made up. My point stands, delta has been here since May and there’s been no surge in deaths, I hate to disappoint everyone by repeating that. I’m vaccinated, my point is actually meant to be positive, it’s just not being received that way.

AA
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AA
2 years ago

“151 Dead, 563 Hospitalized in Illinois Breakthrough COVID Cases.

Illinois’ top doctor said Tuesday that breakthrough cases of COVID-19 in fully vaccinated residents are a “unicorn” as she again urged those who have not yet gotten vaccinated to do so.”

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/151-dead-563-hospitalized-in-illinois-breakthrough-covid-cases/2556408/

AA
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AA
2 years ago
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“As of July 19, 2021, more than 161 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 5,914 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died.”

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
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What did you think 95% efficacy from a vaccination meant? That it really meant a 100% and no one was telling you? Because many times more unvaccinated people than 6000 have been hospitalized or died from covid in the same time frame.

AA
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AA
2 years ago
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Auntie,

714 breakthrough deaths, hospitalizations in Illinois.

5914 breakthrough deaths, hospitalizations in 49 U.S. states?

That means 12% of all breakthrough deaths, hospitalizations

in all 49 of the u.s. states

come from Illinois.

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
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AA
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AA
2 years ago

Angela,

151 breakthrough deaths + 563 breakthrough hospitalizations is 714.

The total breakthrough hospitalizations and deaths for the u.s. in 49 states is 5914

according to the CDC.

715/5914 is 12%.

12% of the breakthrough cases in all of the u.s. 49 states come from Illinois.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/151-dead-563-hospitalized-in-illinois-breakthrough-covid-cases/2556408/

Angela Robinson
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Angela Robinson
2 years ago
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Well, I do take issue with your punctuation then. Deaths AND hospitalizations would have been clearer.

How many of the hospitalized are in the ICU? Or ECMO and/or ventilators?

I do know one young man (23) who was first hospitalized locally in his area in the middle of June, for over a week, then transferred clear across the state (Missouri) and has been on a ventilator since the last week of June, and ECMO for nearly as long.

He is unvaccinated as were his family.

That is aside from my mother’s neighbor who did die from it. Unvaccinated. Not fat, and 57.

AA
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AA
2 years ago

My punctuation is correct. I do take issue that you take issue with my correct punctuation.

But since you replied, what do you think if this Angela?

“Vaccines and functional neurological disorder: A complex story, say experts.

In a JAMA Neurology Viewpoint, the authors explain that the COVID-19 vaccine may precipitate the development of functional neurological disorder (FND), a neuropsychiatric disorder with symptoms such as limb weakness, gait problems, jerky movements, tremor and facial spasms.”

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04-vaccines-functional-neurological-disorder-complex.html

old guy
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old guy
2 years ago

just a note on the ‘science of the virus’, presently it’s still in the research phase. any real info my be years away. ‘data’ and ‘theories’ at this point are probably more subjective than not. it’s not science until there are proofs that are objective, and not unproveable by the facts, (think 1+1+1=3)

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lol
2 years ago
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“‘data’ and ‘theories’ at this point are probably more subjective than not.”

Ahh no. You obviously have no background in science or statistics. You are confusing “proofs”, from mathematics, with statically supported conclusions from science.

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
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Is it fair game to ask if the poster responded to its other names at all?

The Real Brian
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The Real Brian
2 years ago
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Shux!

I wonder why, really.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
Reply to  The Real Brian

I wonder why the fixation, really?

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
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Meh!

You shouldn’t really trouble yourself over a fixation.

Are you fixated on the fixation?

Really?

Guest
Guest
Guest
2 years ago
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What difference does it make?

Best maybe, to just let it go.

Guest
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Guest
2 years ago
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That’s a fact!

AA
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AA
2 years ago
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Thanks old guy.

Farce
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Farce
2 years ago

Tried to schedule a covid test. Boy- they sure make it difficult!! All this talk about “being responsible” and such and yet when you try to get a test they rake you over the internet coals. I guess since I already had a test a few months ago I am in the Optim-serve system so I cannot make an appointment because I do not know my special Patient ID number from back then? Wow. Anybody else getting frustrated by a very inefficient system that is not really designed to help us “be responsible”. I guess I’ll just hope I do not have covid! Thanks for nothing Humboldt County Public Health and Optim-Serve!! The government bullshit and failure continues….It sure does make everything else they say seem kinda suspect- when they cannot even hook you up with a simple test. (Notice that on the county site telling of testing sites they can’t even list the hours open or if walk-ins are allowed. Pretty unprofessional and unhelpful, much like the bungling that has happened on all levels at all times in this pandemic)

cmon man get real
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cmon man get real
2 years ago
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Don’t bother. The CDC yesterday with their new masking rules had another statement underneath the masking statement in their press release. This was not highlighted by the MSM, I wonder why, hmmmm. In so many words, the vaccines do not work because those who are vaccinated can still get the Chinese Wuhan bioweapon flu. And no, vaccines are supposed to prevent the disease, not still allow those shot to get the disease and still die or as all these armchair scientists state, will make the symptoms less harmful. Wrong . After I got the measles shots, I never got measles. Same goes for every other proven vaccine given to most Americans.
In lieu of this fake “vaccine” mrna experimental shot, I would suggest looking into Ivermectin, Zinc, hydroxy, etc. Ivermectin has proven it has a higher efficacy of preventing COVID than the shot. And….guess what, it almost costs nothing which just pisses off the congresspeople control freaks, the control freak bureaucrats and executive branch, lobbyists, karen pro vaxxer crazies, and pharma boyz who ain’t gonna be seeing as big of dividends or get as much respect as they had hoped when the truth comes out. In fact, all these pro mrna shot people in positions of power may need to be getting good defense attorneys to keep out of prison for lying, obfuscating the truth, and giving people bad medicine which they knew about for profit.

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago

https://drcharlieward.com/a-final-warning-to-humanity-from-former-pfizer-chief-scientist-michael-yeadon/

I have read and listened to just about every perspective available on this Corona virus and weighed those perspectives against the unified false narrative echoing from government officials world wide and amplified by most of the media.

Of all the doctors and scientists I’ve researched over the last year and a half, this Ex-Pfizer scientist, Dr. Michael Yeadon gives the most articulate, accurate and unfortunately alarming depiction of what’s really going on behind the scenes with respect to the virus, the vaccines, the lockdowns, the masks and the suppression of the far more effective and inexpensive remedies that are being censored for nefarious purposes. This guy is one of the few who’s actually telling the truth and has the credentials to back it up.

This discussion offers eyeopening information about the true nature of the virus, the body’s immune system and its ability to fight it off, as well as all the misinformation that’s being spread about it.

thetallone
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thetallone
2 years ago
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A textbook case of seeking the “expert” that reflects what you want to hear.

Michael Yeadon last worked at Pfizer a decade ago, and was never the company’s “chief scientist.” His anti-vaccine argument relies on predictions that never panned out. He incorrectly predicted the end of the pandemic in the UK last October. He was not involved in immunology at all at Pfiizer.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pfizer-chief-scientist-vaccines/
https://www.thejournal.ie/debunked-mike-yeadon-pfizer-covid-19-vaccines-5447489-May2021/

“Dr” Charlie Ward is selling videos/webinars to save us from 5G and whatever. You can join his club for $120/yr.

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago
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https://warroom.org/2021/07/24/episode-1120-dirty-dozen-the-12-most-dangerous-people-in-america/

Dirty Deeds indeed.

I wish I could bury my head in a pillow of apathy and ignorance.

Unfortunately once you understand how the intersection of the public and private sector, it’s simply a too big to jail kind of situation.

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Have a good day.

thetallone
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thetallone
2 years ago
Reply to  Call me crazy

“I wish we had someone on our side as evil as you…” -Bill Maher to Steve Bannon

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago
Reply to  thetallone

Who is responsible?

Who is accountable?

Forensics 101

WHO BENEFITS?

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Call me crazy

Yeadon is unusual in the anti vaxxer’s list of doctors who agree with them. Unlike most of them, this man, while not a virologist or medical doctor or disease specialist, was a researcher on drugs to reduce inflamation so should have an good take on covid-19 which is a disease capable of causing damaging inflamation. Here is an article on him. The reasons for his stance is pretty much unknown as he has not explained much. Over a short time he changed from pro vaccine for covid to anti vaxxer. Some of what he says is clearly incorrect but since most of it is political rather than material, it is hard to see where it came from. This piece on him by Reuters is pretty thorough but offers no explanation. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/

As to why anti vaxxers mention him, that is easy to see and has nothing to do with science. He supports their views. He believes lock downs are a political lie to control, the PCR test produces a lot of false positives and that not talking about is also a lie, that asymptomatic transmission is impossible (ie that if you have enough virus to spread to others, you are inevitably sick, which is one of the things clearly wrong as it has been studied) that the vaccines are being made to kill people and the government is lying about the need for them, it only kills the old and sick, etc.

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

Ma’am, you are on the wrong side of history.

I shall not pity those who engage in Covering up the lies of rich and powerful.

The Catholic Church had many people who suppressed the truth because they wanted to believe it wasn’t so.

We don’t want to keep repeating the same mistakes of protecting the perpetrators of harm on the innocent.

https://warroom.org/2021/07/24/episode-1120-dirty-dozen-the-12-most-dangerous-people-in-america/

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Call me crazy

Then you chose your name appropriately.

Call me crazy
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Call me crazy
2 years ago
Reply to  Auntie Ovine

https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html

I’m confident in the precedent of evil intelligence to prey upon the apathy and ignorance.

What Mao, Hitler, Stallin, would have done with the technology.

We are staring into the technocrats wet dream, and you are an enabler.

History has shown that the powerful and well connected use every diabolical tool in the book to achieve their ends.

I will not subject myself to medical experimentation so the self righteous, self imposed fat, sick, and Co morbidities can thrive.

Obesity is one example of a (mental) health system in shambles.

Wake up and go for a very long walk…

https://politicalmoonshine.com/2021/07/24/covid-19-public-crisis-or-opportunistic-marketing-campaign-the-most-important-article-to-date/

Take responsibility for your own home, I’ll do the same.

Willie Bray
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2 years ago

🕯🌳Winter’s coming and there’s that chance it can mutate again and when a virus mutates it doesn’t get better goes for the worst. I’m not trying to preach dooms day s$$t but its already mutated 4 times a maybe more. No tell what’s hiding in those little pockets of the world that we don’t really get to. Plus like last summer when it subsided it didn’t do so this year it mutated. 🖖🖖

Auntie Ovine
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Auntie Ovine
2 years ago
Reply to  Willie Bray

Sometimes is gets more mild and even sometimes disappears. It’s a balancing act. If a disease is aggressive, it reproduces itself more and therefore has a better chance of spreading but disabled l especially the host from spreading it around. If it’s mild, the infected can carry it long to infect new people. The best scenario for the virus it to find a sweet spot where it can reproduce a lot and still not kill its host. Looks like the Delta variant has found that.

Flu viruses are notorious for mutating. Now it looks like covid is going to be similar.

Lone Ranger
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Lone Ranger
2 years ago

Yep ,you are correct, I was way off , infection rate just under 4 percent, pathetic, and 90 percent of the infected survived. Lamedemic