Video Showing Illegal Cannabis Grows in Siskiyou County
Yesterday, Doug LaMalfa, Representative for California’s 1st Congressional District, posted the above video about issues found on illegal grow sites in Siskiyou County.
“Nothing about what is happening at the grow sites in Siskiyou county is legal,” he wrote. “Working together we have to fix this problem.”
He stated in the article that growers can get away with environmental damage that other professions cannot. “No normal person can get away with what they are getting away with here,” he said.
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Victor Hanson, ladies and gents.
“Two million people are anticipated to cross the southern border, en masse and illegally, over a 12-month period. If that absurdity were to continue, we would be adding the equivalent of a major U.S. city every year. The new arrivals have three things in common: Their first act was to break U.S. law by entering the country. Their second was to break the law by residing here illegally. And their third will be to find false identification or other illegal means to continue breaking the law. One does not arrive as a guest in a foreign country and immediately violate the laws of his host—unless one holds those laws in contempt.”
The US was built on open borders, fyi.
What did work doesn’t mean it will continue to work.
The US was pro immigration not pro flooding across the borders.
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&source=android-browser&q=what+did+framers+say+about+immigration
There you go Ullr.
Applying your rationale below, restricting immigration creates the need for it, and we should not create black market immigration through Government practices.
If you worked a regular job you would or should understand the effect illegal immigration has on the average American wage. If you understood simple “supply and demand”. What I can’t understand is why democrats want minimum wage to go up but in the same breath they want to flood the job market with cheap labor! Without boarders we have no county.
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&source=android-browser&q=boarder
Without boarders, there would be a county.
Borders are not immigration policies.
The goal of a “liberal” Constitution was one that the representatives repeated often (if not always pursued). In a separate conversation on the issue of qualifications to serve in office, Benjamin Franklin noted that the “Constitution will be much read and attended to in Europe, and if it should betray a great partiality to the rich, it will not only hurt us in the esteem of the most liberal and enlightened men there, but discourage the common people from removing to this Country.”
https://www.cato.org/blog/founding-fathers-favored-liberal-immigration-system
It’s not like liberals are Constitution admirers in any way. In fact they tend to ridicule it as a slave owner, white privilege, out of date document. Likely if they managed to get their hands on a time machine, they would go back to destroy any chance of it getting written.
In fact they tend to ridicule it as a slave owner, white privilege, out of date document.
Yes, that happens.
It’s a damn shame so many false-patriots have tarnished history to the point that almost NOBODY can figure shit out.
Flag waving false-patriots who hate immigrants cite the founders as a reason to ignore gun violence, restrict honest education, restrict women choices, restrict voting rights and to not wear masks.
Quite literally they have already burned the Constitution here in the present day, no need for time machines.
It too bad that public education has left so many so ignorant of history at all. Or even current events that you think flag waving is any different than flag burning. The division comes from those who think Constitutional rights are optional and government is a good tool to impose change in public mores according to their own beliefs. In 100 years, any beliefs you so insist are right will have changed so much that you will be the the joke of liberals, if remembered at all, if they haven’t learned a longer perspective by then. Hate is the only inheritance left by haters.
That is a lie. You and your ilk and this BS rhetoric is why we are divided more than ever before.
Keep personal attacks from the conversation. Deal with ideas.
Blaming this on Cartels and immigrants is ridiculous. And let’s face it, the alfalfa growers in Siskiyou County result in a lot more destruction to the environment than a few greenhouses. They are literally drying up spring-fed streams that used to support some of the largest fish runs in the world so that we can produce beef which is a huge waste of resources for very little protein production.
Sounds like you would be REAL upset if your neighbor was a black market alfalfa grower though.
I would be too.
Beyond Beef can use 99% less water for production than a typical cow.
They are delicious.
I’m a meat eater and haven’t bought real beef in well over a year.
In the past I spent a decade as a vegan, so I’m flexible.
But Beyond meats are awesome. Try the sausages too.
https://www.beefcentral.com/news/synthetic-meat-investor-bill-gates-calls-for-rich-countries-to-eat-only-synthetic-meat/
Check this out trb 🤔
Why
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/beyond-meat-health-vegan-burger-plant-based
It’s always good to know the hand that feeds you. Processed food can be harmful to your health. Cheers!
Dont eat 3 a day.
Stay active.
Have a diverse diet.
And save the fucking water.
I’ve never counted anything about food, calories, fats, etc.
I’m more fit than most.
I hate psuedo-nutritionists.
Sooo Brian. I get the impression that you have not seen the movie ” Soylent Green” from the 70’s…you should watch it. I wonder if its just a coincidence there is a real plant based food company with the same name….
Remember the save the water drink almond milk tropes? This latest bandwagon will turn out no different. Maybe some crops can grow on less water in ideal circumstances but in practice, mass producing them in places not native for them is very wasteful of water and really good at spreading disease and pollution. There simply is not enough “ideal” land for crop growing while there is an abundance of land suitable for grass in this country.
And plant based diets need a lot of artificial supplement to match the nutrients found in meat. Any creature who can’t manufacture their own B12 yet requires it to survive is on very shaky ground with “plant based” diets.
Besides anyone who raises animals knows that animals pee out almost 100% of what they drink, grass, which in most of the country is watered by rain on land not suitable for crops, intensive farming of legumes wastes a whole lot of water and, most important, in a drought, disaster or disease environment, animals continue to provide subsistence long after plants have shriveled into nothing. Humans survived so well by using animals to store summer’s bounty and return it as meat in the winter.
https://www.consumerfreedom.com/2019/05/5-chemicals-lurking-in-plant-based-meats/#:~:text=But%20it%20can%20still%20be%20used%20in%20foods,phosphate%2C%20this%20chemical%20is%20used%20to%20fortify%20foods.
Anyone here ever wash a beet, how much water does that take?
Anyway, people who love fake news will love fake meat.
Beyond Meat Is Beyond Unhealthy
March 16, 2017
https://ancestral-nutrition.com/beyond-meat-is-beyond-unhealthy/
Ever notice how much chicken and beef manure is bought in this country to grow plants?
Agreed Sunset yet, are you a descendant from an immigrant? It’s interesting the people who scream the loudest about immigrants are descendants of immigrants who flooded the Country’s borders & committed the most heinous savagery on Native American land & forced others for free labor. The level of cognitive dissonance is high. Make up the rules as you go along, as long as it benefits you.
That put down is pretty up there on the cognitive dissonance scale itself. The user of that hackneyed idea first notes the horrible things that immigrants did to the earlier residents when Europeans flooded North America and imposed their culture on the natives yet somehow thinks that accusation will silence the current residents who fear the same thing. Hello?
I have never observed a white person picking crops.
You would have if they were the recent immigrants or the next generation. If you bothered to look. Also acting as maids, ditch diggersnor any other job that came along until they accumulated enough themselves to want to hire the most recent source of cheap labor. Okies in 1929’s California or Italians in the 1900s out east or Irish in the 1860s or German’s in the early 1840s or Scots in the mid 1750s.
And would again if cheap labor was restricted and welfare was no longer worth more.
I don’t see one part in all your info your posting where it says illegals should be allowed into our country nice try though. The borders aren’t open last I checked . Maybe you should move the illegals onto your property if you think it’s such good idea. Move them into your house. Put the military on our border that’s what there for is protecting our country now go protect it.
Smoke American!
Trumpists hold the laws of America in contempt when they threaten the life of the Vice President carrying out his lawful duties of certifying Trump’s loss on Jan. 6.
Really, release the other 14k hours of video.
Stop hiding the CP that murdered Ashli.
Let the GOP pick their own Jan. 6th committee. Nancy isn’t the queen of the house.
Spot on….Start enforcing our nation’s immigration laws…
Land already destroyed been destroyed the government made laws to get rich people don’t want to sit around and work all there life to get something they want quick gradification
I agree with you brother whole heartedly. Demographically without immigration we are in trouble. I am ashamed to say this but it’s hard to get a Caucasian kid from the city or suburbs who wants to work. I have been discriminated against I can’t remember all the construction sites that wouldn’t hire or having my tools stolen at company after company but our society is gone to pot. Kids from here want to be crypto millionaires and you tube influencers. Instead of lamenting the way $#!+ is I am thinking hiring a bunch of amigos for a painting company.
Band aids and bad ideas.
His solution is bulldozers and circumventing due process?
I’m pretty sure drugs won the war. Doubling down is just stupid.
When you see these grow scenes, do you see laissez-faire capitalism?
Does it look good?
Is laissez-faire capitalism basically just capitalism-anarchy?
These scenes wouldn’t exist in free market capitalism. There would be no profit in a plant anyone could grow. This exist directly because of government interference creating black markets.
If what you’re saying is true, and I don’t think it is, than it would apply to any product, and there would be no profit from anything.
To further critique your POV, if we OPEN the BORDERS there would be no “flooding across borders” immigration (when applying your rationale).
I see economics is not your strong point… Nor is understanding.
As a child of immigrants I very much believe there should be a clear immigration process.
Great. Now I have to waste time on another topic because you can’t explain yourself. Here, some credentials:
My stock call in Feb 2020 literally saved some fortune:
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The money saved from pulling out in Feb was reinvested at lows after the crash, more than doubled over the last year, and doing dandy today.
You being the son of immigrants is fascinating. As someone who wasn’t even born in this Country, I’m curious to learn more.
Would you like to tell me how your economic theory that applies to pot doesn’t apply to anything else now, so we can learn something from you?
I agree that there should be a clear and functioning process for immigration too.
Please explain what I’m not catching about your POV. I can keep up, and I’m happy to try to learn what you’re saying.
I see explaining yourself or idea of position is not your strong point..
How to disable libertarian economic philosophy; ask a question.
Both of you stop attacking each other.
Sorry Kym, I did not return to the thread until now. It’s pretty clear I’m not attacking anyone… I’m just not willing to play the games with which some people continue to persist.
“I see economics is not your strong point… Nor is understanding.”
That was just observation.
@ Kym,
It would be quite unfair of you to not post my response in waiting here.
It’s literally exactly what he said.
Speak English, will you?
This ain’t France, man!
C’Mon man!
Speaking French in America is no bueno!
Says the Congressman who sucks up millions of dollars in federal ag subsidies to grow rice in a desert, draining Lake Oroville, to feed the Chinese Red Army.
These pet are no better than the lagalt growers, Im sick of everybody being like it’s okay for the legal growers to destroy our land the same way because they pay the county and sheriff off. Meanwhile the sheriff protects them and be like it’s okay they are legal. We need to eradicate every bit of marijuana grown in green houses and goo back to the simple out door 25 per person. And do away with these mega grows draining our water table.
That would be good, however, they just okayed a 97 acre grow farm in Santa Barbara. So I don’t think there is any going back.
There’s a reason I couldn’t water my food garden….. my greedy shithead neighbors with their massive indoor grow sucking the ground dry. Meanwhile they spent every year for 6 months a year on exotic vacations while I struggled to feed my family working an honest job. Fuck these people, throw them in jail and toss away the key.
If that is true, then report them.
Are you just calling the commenters bluff or are you serious? Just wondering. It is hard to believe that they couldn’t scrape up a couple hundred gallons every couple days to water some veggies.
Don’t hate the player, Hate the game. Blaming an indoor grow for sucking up all YOUR water? Do you share a tank or something? Oh, What’s an honest job? How do you personally better our community? 😂
there was literally no sign of any contamination in the video. no staining around the geni shed or diesel drums. it was a new grow, the burn pit hasn’t even been lit. maybe they should raid a 10 year old grow that has been avoided all these years due to a friends of family designation. those are by far the worse and have the most contamination.
Is he really saying that the people who grow marijuana are not normal?
He said that at least twice, maybe more.
Humans have been using marijuana back to the dawn of time. He has no understanding of normal. It is not normal to tear up people’s gardens and eradicate growing plants. It is not normal to jail people for producing a commodity that other people want.
💯 👆
It is also not “normal” to rape every watercourse, poison every creek, dam every spring, and fuck the rest of the world in doing so, while pretending that you are not the problem. You are the problem. The Earth cannot withstand any more fucking weed grows, get it? Your grow is finishing off the planet you greedy @#$%! The Eel is done, you killed it, thanks a bunch! Pot has fucked the already compromised river that was previously fucked by logging, roads, dams, grapes, etc.
THIS SHIT WILL COME TO AN END! And the end, may just be your own… Wake the fuck up and clean up your fucking mess! You sound like a little spoiled kid that didn’t get their way. Clean up your goddamn room! That wasn’t a fucking question. Period. Done. Just fucking done…
I am not the problem, I do none of the raping poisoning etc that you mention. Those things do occur and I agree they are hideous, but they happen precisely BECAUSE growing marijuana is against the law without “permits” which is PROHIBITION dressed up to look like a lawyer. As long as there are laws prohibiting growing plants, there will be people willing to break the laws because the laws controlling marijuana are what make it valuable. That is called “incentive”.
That is one convincing career politician. I live in siskiyou county and what’s going on out there is ugly but what’s even uglier is the police shooting a man 60 times in front of his wife and kids claiming that he pulled a gun on them.The Hmong people are protesting daily on the steps of our court house just to get the body camera footage released. I’ve lived here nearly all of my life and know first hand what the good old boy sherriff’s are capable of. If this was a justified use of force then release some supporting footage to show us . Hell they should be happy to do so just to show the citizens of our country and the hmong people what kind of a threat they were facing. Until then people will not believe that the country law enforcement is truly here to serve and protect our best interests. Our county has effectively demonized the hmong people here but don’t forget that they are humans made in God’s own image just like every person on earth. Again I don’t like what’s going on out there but as us citizens they deserve due process and to be treated with dignity and respect.
The irony is that the Hmong were combat vets helping US forces in Vietnam, and were INVITED to the USA. Now all the “patriotic” right wingers treat them like dogs.
As opposed to the liberal’s desire to honor the military? A criminal is a criminal, the Hmong were not vets, they were allies, they had their own reasons for their choices like everyone else and nothing in that video referee to a specific race unless you consider “cartels” a race. No need to make race issues worse by using it in the service of greedy pot growers.
Are you saying liberals don’t honor the military? Who fights for higher wages? Who questions sending them into ridiculous wars? Who wants to help the homeless?
Yeah, what that Mailguy said!
What is even saying? He wants to run bulldozers through private property without a warrant? Those aren’t cartel grows, its local yokels on private property violating “local ordinance”. He talks about chemicals with Chinese labels but shows video of products from local companies like Cutting Edge and American Hydroponics. What a dipsh!t trying for sensationalist news and coming off like a broke, big-belly boomer.
I agree..
He seems like a drunk who reads Epoch Times and takes his frustrations out on “Chinese labels”.
But the grow scenes are ugly, and that’s all I can agree with him on.
Exactly that guy didn’t know wtf he was talking about. The news/media has turned the county against them by spreading lies and hate. These unhappy locals need someone to hate. Meanwhile all the “real” farmers can use as much water as they like and everyone appreciates them for making an “honest” living. Sheep sheep sheep 🐑
I passed an alfalfa field (well…many many alfalfa fields but *this* one in particular) on the way back from Etna to Ft. Jones this morning; the Scott river is dry. All the creeks are dry. This alfalfa field was watering for a 2ond cut. Not sure what those guys are thinking…and still no moratoriums for water use in Siskiyou as far as I know…
I guess emergencies make a lot of money for some people and that’s where we’re headed.
Those people up in Siskiyou are weird man. Weird! It’s weed man, chill out. They are writing so many weird laws now because the boomers up there are afraid of weed. They’re also afraid of people with non-white skin. Do you literally have nothing better to worry about than people growing a smelly weed in desert scab land no one else wanted? They are paying people for water deliveries, not stealing water. Just another example of white boomers who got theirs standing in the way of other people trying to come up.
Maybe they should try to fix up their dilapidated drug-infested (real drugs, not weed) cities. There are literally no opportunities up there. Those families that were lucky and got farmland and water rights (stole from Native Americans that is) don’t want anything to change.
Yreka, the county seat, hey nice brown plastic chain link fence that runs the length of the town. It’s the same color as the closed down JC Penny from the ’70’s, the glory days of this place I’m sure. In fact, when I think Siskiyou I think old houses with brown carpet next to brown plastic fences down the street from brown box foreclosures. Great job up there, great job. It’s embarrassing. And on top of that, they show how corrupt they are by just writing arbitrary laws that primarily affect people of color. They stand in the way of property owners right to farm, though they proclaim they are a “right to farm” county, says it right on the county website.
Right to farm, that is unless you are growing weed outdoors. You know, the one that is recreational in CA and legal/and or medicinal in 37 other states, soon to be legal at the federal level.
Freaking old dumb boomers. Doesn’t it feel nice that daddy Doug got your back? What about all the water they’re shipping off via Crystal Geyser all over the world? But they’re worried about a few small farmers getting water? Hypocrites.
The times they are changing, weather you like it or not.
I can’t wait til more young people move up there and breath a little life into the place. People who want change. And to the cool ones already up there who just want to live and let live: Look up at Mt. Shasta and pray.
I am one 71 year old boomer that agrees with you about Yreka and its whites-only government, its ridiculous “mow the lawn” zoning ordinances making outdoor growing illegal while it is legal in the state.
I do disagree that it’s my age group only that is doing the oppression. There are lots of younger people who are equally bigoted.
Wells are going dry out there…the ranchers are selling off pumped water to dope growers.
Your assessment is not wrong…but there’s a great deal of beauty here and a lot of the young uns get educated and come home.
It’s not all retrograde, altho when I moved here 4 years ago my impression was that Siskiyou rednecks weren’t as sophisticated as Humboldt ones. Hah
You cannot really trust Doug La Malfa and the other right wing politicians on this because they have a huge axe to grind.
They are anti-marijuana to begin with–remember CAMP and the other police state features of right wing rule? The impositions on civil liberties?
And they are racist against the Hmong. Siskiyou county has an all-white government and sheriff’s department. And they want to keep it that way.
I’m presuming this is satirical…
it’s not. and it’s not an outlier belief, either. some folks are willing to say the quiet part loud and, frankly, i appreciate that. i just wish more people believed them when they did. might save lives.
Doug La Malfa voted AGAINST the hate crime enhancement for anti-Asian hate crimes.
That says it all.
Over grow the government and fuck Malfa
@ Kym,
Is this post deserving of a cannabis tag? Right now it has no classification and requires more work to find. Thanks
Argh! Thank you! I’ve been so busy that I’ve been having to work late into the night and…I get stupid.
Maybe I’m approaching 2 months?
It could save you a little time….
Brian, this wasn’t even the last comment of yours I deleted. So…no.
Jesus is not a commentor here thst I’m aware of.
But I get it.
I can’t respond to bullshit posts with other bullshit;
bullshit posts ok, bullshit responses not ok.
I’m curious if “Barbara” responded to you, or if her “story” is coming?
Barbara responded to me. She is a real person whose husband died. He did not die in Humboldt.
I offered my condolences to her on that thread for JUST that possibilty.
I realized she may be real, but wrong.
Seems that was the case, as you verified everything about her comment MINUS the main point; vaccine deaths.
Anyways, sorry it bugged you. Make believe is make believe, offense is in the eye of the beholder.
Telling a grieving widow that you can bring back her husband because you had sex with Jesus may be your idea of appropriate for this site, but it is not mine. And that is why you are on moderation.
It’s not my opinion that it was appropriate, just equal in terms of make-believe that I read here, which is equally inappropriate.
In my opinion, you know that some are just creative-writing-liars on Covid threads, it’s not my duty to assume each is legitimate.
Plus, you allowed many to make fun of me for what I posted publicly.
the county is to blame for allowing that dumb subdivision anyways.
and on the immigration points, if it was wrong for europeans to take this continent like we did, temporarily, from indigenous people, well then it follows that any new immigration must be wrong in the sense that its still “stolen Land”. Right?
i never understood that about the liberal worldview.
they want to feel bad about colonialism and all that, but then they say to the millions of new immigrants ” come on over! The native americans want to give their land to more people!”
“but whites are still the only colonialists and racists though”
the new slogan for global colonialism would have to be branded to fit the minds of weakling americans.
instead of manifest destiny, we’ll call it “manifest diversity”.
your welcome native americans
Manifest density.
Siskiyou, Shasta, San Bernardino all maintain the same zero tolerance attitude toward marijuana.
All the beautiful landscapes are now littered with trash.
What do you expect? The police to clean up the destruction they leave behind? The grower whom just lost everything to clean it up?
The only victim here is our planet and children’s landscapes.
Let sleeping bears sleep.
I have to say the majority of the comments on this site reflect the lowest common denominator. This has become a platform for ridiculousness. I try not to read them but I’m drawn to it… morbid fascination and doomscrolling
Here’s a fact nobody every talks about. 20 million illegal immigrants are estimated to live in the US. Most of them use fake or stolen social security numbers. Employers use those numbers to take money out of their paychecks.
Illegal immigrants do not file taxes, they would get caught and deported if they did.
The federal and state governments get to keep the money. Illegals pay taxes , billionaires? Not so much, but they can afford 25 million+ for an 11 minute flight.
What are your sources for this “fact”?
Tanuki is probably close to right. Even groups who support open immigration estimate there are about 12-14 million and that stat relies on the word of people taking surveys. Many illegals would not take a survey and avoid mentioning their immigration status to anyone. And it automatically excludes any with criminal activity. So that is likely a very serious undercount. Frankly there are a number of employers who know the illegal status of their workers. The worse case I’ve personally seen was a company where 2/3rds of employees turned out to be using fraudulent social security numbers and that investigation led to 65 other people in various places in California using the same social security number of a 5 year old child of a person working there who was born here and had a valid social security card.
Makes me wanna grow in siskiyou county. Challenge accepted, lol
Please don’t come here.
Seems like ya’ll need real illicit growers. Who don’t damage the environment, build needless hoops or use chemicals. Much better herb your citizens will appreciate it. It’s what the people want and who are you to deny the people of properly grown herb.
I’m not sure how this became a racial topic right off the bat. With the exception of “cartels” and “Chinese labels”, no specific race, or group of people, were said to be responsible.
0:54 “…and, the whole concept of what’s going on with cartels, and the legality…”
He did not specifically say they were involved in this. Maybe elsewhere, or another press release, but not here.
1:08 “… and chemicals that are coming from who knows where with Chinese, uh, labels on the, on the containers. Stuff normal farmers could never get…”
Again, no responsibility.
2:13 “…you know, the sheriff’s deputies, they, they have to come out and cut one plant at a time and haul it off and put it in a pile. Is it really healthy for them to be going into rooms, some, some of these other rooms that have had chemicals spilled and such and the, the, the, smell coming out of there? So, one at a time, put it in a pile…”
Years back, when I did landscaping labor, if I had complained about the toxic air, they would’ve told me to rip off the plastic sheathing to air it out. I would’ve been told, think about it numbskull, it’s coming down anyway. Then the foreman would’ve said, quit milkin’ it, cut a few, throw at least 4 or 5 over your shoulder and carry ’em out. Or, better yet, lay down a burlap tarp, cut a bunch, put ’em on the tarp and drag ’em all out.
It’s THAT penny-ante, milking the job, stuff that needs to be defunded. One at a time! Sheesh. Go back to your AC office. Be sure to cut a handful yourself while you’re standing there and drag them off when you leave. You can even get it on camera, like you’re doing something.
He said “cartel”, LOL!! How many “cartel” busts take place in each county in a year????
This guy doesn’t know shit from shinola !!!
Lol this is great entertainment. I do hope they use American made dozers to destroy these Chinese cartel grows. It only seems reasonable. Although I do think it runs the risk of ruining their job security of picking off just enough grows each year to keep prices/incentives high enough. Great strong good old boy rhetoric none the less!
I reckon 99% of the grows in Siskou get 100% of their water delivered.
la malfa is a fake republican taking orders from hillary and the like a nazi trying to start trouble to bring U.N. watch for other fakes setting up divisions for gain or to be noticed its much more than the half truths he spews here again la malfa is a bad posing clown wanting to bring attack on plants and people and spread that nazi trash for what besides the ability to hide theft of products by dozing looks like they are stopping drugs or something ignorants fall for that but by dozing can cover up the theft first he is not simply this stupid just corrupted puppet waiting to get paid by his handlers first he bulldozed then his nasty group burned a small township as planned sick he went ahead to use these traitorous chicken gully actions when there is real trouble with the meth n heroin they seem to protect