[UPDATE 10:55 a.m.] Person Trapped After Crash off the North End of the Avenue
About 9:49 a.m., dispatchers requested an ambulance and firefighters respond to a crash at mile marker 45.44 at the north end of the Avenue of the Giants. One person was trapped inside the vehicle.
The Incident Commander arrived on scene and requested that all emergency personnel continue to the accident scene.
Please remember that this story is unfolding. Information is being reported as we gather it. However, some of the information coming from witnesses and initial official reports could be wrong. We will do our best to get the facts but, in the case that something is inaccurate, we will update with correct information as soon as we can.
UPDATE 10:55 a.m.: The patient was put in the ambulance and taken to the hospital.
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Pretty sure that 45.44 is a 101 mile marker in that area.
I’m going to stick my neck out and say that the 254 only goes up to maybe the low 30’s.
Mile post 45.44 on 254 is not possible.
Must be very near the intersection of 254 and 101 and someone used a 101 mile marker.
I’m sure the first responders figured it out.
The Avenue goes up to mile marker 46.53 at the junction with 101 near Jordan Road, according to the Cal Trans mile marker information that I’m looking at.
Those pesky sources…
That would be the junction of 254 and 101 at the 101 mile marker of
46. 53. Maybe…
That mile marker sounds a little too far north to be the passable 101@ 254 junction at Jordan Rd.
Also, Hwy 254 junction @ Hwy 101
mile marker 46.53 might be the theoretical geographic ghost junction of old 101 (254 now), and new 101, that’s not actually a passable junction, just where a
47.00 is the blue call box Northbound 101, South of Stafford.
101 @ 45.44, I want to say is very near Greenlaw Creek Bridge.
Mile markers on 254 start @ 0 @ Sylvandales or Hurlbut undercrossing, around 101 mile marker 16, or 17.
South end of Miranda is 254 mile marker 6.0 by Miranda Cottages.
The 101 at say Salmon Creek
I know the 101 mile markers in that area, I’m pretty sure 46.50 is north of Jordan Creek itself.
Sound like your source is putting the junction on the wrong side of the creek, unless it is referencing the ghost junction physical location.
The avenue is only 32 miles long.
How can you have a mile marker 45.44 on a 32 mile road.?
Some stuff is just plain obvious.
And yet, it too, is unacceptable, and must be wrong.
Because, you know, those pesky “reputable” sources.
A charlatan is never to be trusted,
Even when what he is saying is so obvious.
I was a first responder, I took my mileposts seriously, ever since I heard a Miranda volunteer fireman asking dispatch whether you turn north or south on to the freeway interchange near the Miranda Bridge to get to an accident at a particular milepost marker.
Dispatch had no clue.
I was going to create a cross reference manual to give to all the departments with landmarks, intersection mile markers, the works.
I couldn’t get any buy in from the powers that be.
I still think every department should have their own reference manual for there area and be familiar with it.
I’m still getting grief, and no buy in.
Thanks.
Right then, I knew it would be crucial to know that information in advance. Oh well what difference does one or two lives even make anyway?
Apparently, none.
Get technical. Too much time.
Guest,
Have you ever heard what would happen if one were to take a long walk on a short pier? Maybe this person took a long drive on a short road, thus, the crash. Just sayin’ Lol.
I hope the patient will be okay and make a quick recovery.
Thank you Ernie,
I will consider that comment my just dessert.
I’m still working on my hat.
And then the walk, maybe.
Now I know where I can do 15 miles and back in less than a minute.
A needed reminder that when I figure I’m wrong initially, instead of thinking, I’m right, I’m right alot more.
Sure would be nice to have the road maintenance contract for those 15 miles…
Sure am glad somebody is keeping track of this stuff. Now I can finally sleep.
When the Avenue changed from 101 to the Avenue, there was a weird gap left in the mile markers.
Here’s the document.
The loss of about 15 miles occurs just north of Bull Creek Road.
Just south of where the second southbound 101 Redcrest exit (667), meets 254.
The Avenue can be dangerous, especially during busy times. You get everything from folks pretending they’re race car drivers to tourists literally stopped in the road.
Just hope the person will be ok.
Any update on if the person made it to the hospital?
Don’t mean to be snarky, and I generally hate to assume, especially on these forums, but in this case, I’ll bet it is safe to assume they did make it to the hospital. At least until we see the headline “Ambulance carrying injured crashes on route to hospital.”
Mile markers on Route 254 have a huge gap of nearly 20 miles due to Route 254 used to avoid hard to construct areas, follow the Eel River bends, and sometimes went miles out of the way to ford the river before the big bridges were constructed for US 101 and upgrades over the years. The highway department then leaves the same milepost number but with an R in front for Rerouted. If I am not mistaken, this person crashed somewhere near Redcrest or Holmes. Hopefully they will be ok and slow down next time. Or not be impaired.
Gentle Readers,
And Kym especially, this is where I get to eat my hat. Can I have a Coke with that, please?
So, yes, confirmed this myself on the ground, along the Avenue.
Just South of the Englewood Mill that is just South of Redcrest, 15 miles just mysteriously “vanishes”, or would that be “appears”?
It depends on which way you are going, I guess.
Mile post 24 and what would be milepost 39 occupy the same spot.
Well not exactly, decreasing Southbound, mile marker 39.50 is followed by mile marker 24, not mile marker 39 in a half a mile, at that point losing 15 miles in an instant.
Increasing Northbound, mile marker 24 becomes 38.50 in a half mile, instantly gaining 15 miles.
Forehead slap!!!
My apologies.
Please forgive me.
That explains how a 32 mile Avenue can have a mile post 46.53.
Who knew?
Not me.
There is no explanation.
I was going to mention that I could be wrong initially, and that for some reason mileposts would change at that end of the Avenue and go the other way.
But backwards? And with a seemingly random discrepancy?
It didn’t seem very likely… Yet, it was true…
Live and learn.
No worries…it’s weird for sure.
As a side note, where the overgrown remnant of the Old Road does meets the new 101 is very near the 101 freeway mile marker of 46.50.
Hopefully, that provides some morsel of redemption.
This Caltrans post mile query tool will help:
https://postmile.dot.ca.gov/PMQT/PostmileQueryTool.html?
On a semi related note. I was a first responder years ago. Another pet peeve is road names that are very very similar like say Harris and Harrison, Bear drive, bear circle, bear place, bear avenue, bear street, all in the same area with the same numbers on the houses ie each has say 210 house. A visitor will call 911 in a panic and say it is at xyz bear street when it is really the same address on bear circle.
Our highly educated and smart civic leader never seem to think of these things.
Yea…….
Check this out: Overturned car with injured driver was found at least 50′ into the redwood grove, inaccessible from the nearest turnout due to dense foliage. Do drivers make a habit of trying to drive “cross country”? Where did the car enter the grove, and what caused the accident?